IMPORTANT CORRECTIONS: 2:07 - It's supposed to be Anemic Agility (like in the other builds). Putting vile acceleration there was a mistake due to late evening crunch! 4:27 - The reason they are intertwined is because a level 5 min-max build usually minmaxes the level 4 predecessor.
Bro im Sorry but im a fking casual man. I really like the frame ans want to do endless steel path. Would the lvl 5 build work for me or am i cooked. Btw im only playing mesa so i dont really care how expensive her build is.
@@anonymanonym3669 It depends on what you mean by endless. I explained this in another comment somewhere but Mesa struggles when we're talking really high levels. If you plan to go into the thousands you should actually consider armor strip green shards instead of full orange. Just keep in mind that they will be almost completely useless before you reach those enemy levels. The main problem is that you will eventually get oneshot by things that ignore her shield (like some eximus abilities). So if you are running a solo mode you will run out of revives guaranteed. You can use the LVL 5 build, add 2 green shards and try to camp in a corner I guess. Tell me how far you got :)
First, great video. Good production quality, good music, not too loud or overpowering. Most importantly: The format you used to go over the builds was great! Having the mods present at the top all the time rather than a quick flash on screen is what I’ve always wanted. It let me watch your gameplay, while checking the mods and making the connection with what was happening. The only thing I was missing was a little reference to your first videos. Pointing out the resource savings with your method vs the ones you called out might have been helpful. But overall, great video and it will help me with my Mesa a lot!
Hey Nebula, thanks for the feedback. I mentioned this in a community post some time ago but I really just want to leave those videos behind, which is why I am just minimally referencing them here. They may have gotten 20x the amount of views in the same time span but I somewhat regret that being my first uploads and simply wish to do more positive content.
@@Norrschein I totally get what you mean. What I really took away from your prior videos was how we don’t need to go all crazy to do the content. And you do cover that well with the way you showed each level of progression from beginner to min-max. 👍🏽
Great build. Makes me want to give mesa another shot. Quality and information where great on the video and got right to the point. Cant wait to see what you cook up next
Heya, it was definitely worth taking your time with this video, the quality really shows! That said, I don’t recommend using base damage mods like hornet strike on Regulators. Mesa’s ability strength gives her a ton of base damage, which stacks additively.
Hey Fluffie, good to see you again. I'm not sure about the investment here. Growing a small channel is largely about volume and I think 2 weeks for an upload isn't so good. However, I am just very pressed on time. I'm essentially blowing any free time I have on this. Regarding hornet strike it's hard to say without testing. Until you swap to Blind Rage instead of transient it's probably only a minor difference (in terms of diminishing returns) if any. However, faction mods are also not that popular so for the sake of accessibility I did not include them until level 4 and onward.
@@Norrschein I definitely feel you >.< All my spare time goes into making vids, but even at that rate I can only manage to make a build video every 3-4 weeks. I try to put out smaller videos in between to balance out the drought. For build wise its probably not much of a difference as you said. Could use Normal or Primed Heated charge for Corrosive + Heat instead of base damage mod. Was an excellent video nonetheless. All the best on growing your channel!
Pretty good video bro. Very sobber and the info is pretty accesible for everyone without wasting time. Min maxing warframes and builds are great and we all love making million of dmg with red crits, but sometimes that's not what you're looking for. Sometimes you are looking for something simple and functional, and that's something that the warframe yt creators are severely lacking and you're providing with videos like this.
Hey Jose, thanks for the feedback! I am hoping that I am filling a niche here so that I can grow my channel. That said, this type of content isn't the high intensity stuff that RUclips promotes so only time will tell.
Hey man. Thanks for the guide. I'm fairly new to warframe, and found Mesa and Mesa Prime's design really cool and decided her to be my main. This gave me an insight as to what my current capabilities are in terms of modding. Will wait for the next rotation of primed mods to see if some of those in the video appear. Thanks a lot!
I love this video. I recently got Mesa Prime and I'm loving her, she's my favorite warframe out of the 10-12 I've used. Her fashion is out of the charts and I love playing around her regulators. This video helps me with builds so well, only problem is that it is hard to grab some of these mods because I have absolutely no platinum 😭 but that's not your fault. Anyways, great video❤
If you need platinum try farming the Deimos bounty for weeping wounds with your Mesa and add some parkour velocity to her to make her alot more fun to use. You can get it from exilus parazon mod or melee offhand like preados. You just rubberband her across the sky as she blasts everything lol.
Hey Norrschein! Great video! The production quality is top-notch, and I also think your choice of music is great! I found the video logically structured and easy to follow, so I personally do not agree with your comment about it being all over the place. Coming from a veteran perspective, the only potential issue that I can foresee arising (from other, more reactionary vets) is that your strong emphasis on the time and resources it takes to get to your endgame/min-max builds could be off-putting/annoying -- I personally did not find this to be the case, and I do like how you're kinda pushing back against the bigger, more clickbait-y Warframe RUclipsrs by emphasizing that min-maxing isn't necessary, but it's something to keep in mind if you get hate for it (since people on the Internet love to hate). Now, as for the builds: solid all around! I liked how you explained the basics of what Mesa wants for her abilities and Regulators, and also gave extra explanation regarding more "controversial" mod choices (ie. in your level 1 build, Augur Pact vs more fire rate; also, since the Regulators can't equip Vile Acceleration [from my knowledge], it probably would have been better to use Anemic Agility in that instance to better illustrate your point -- you do say "a mod like Vile Acceleration", and to you and me that obviously means Anemic or Gunslinger, but the new players your level 1 build targets may not!). Finally, regarding specifically the min-max build: going 5 Topaz shards (2 Tau 3 non) for +300% crit chance makes a lot of sense! If you really wanted to go nuts, 4 Tau Topaz shards will also get you to +300%, allowing you to slot something like a Crimson shard for more ability strength, or an Amber for rolling during Waltz, or a Violet to help with energy sustain or something. Of course, that's EVEN MORE investment, but hey, if we're min-maxing...? I also liked your note about the Furis Wraith with its augment + melee crescendo, and how it's technically better IF you take the time to set it up. I also wanted to get your thoughts on a potential armour-strip build with Emerald shards. I know that it would technically be more efficient to just use Pillage or something else to armour-strip, but for the sake of discussion: 5 Emeralds, 2 set to increase max corrosion stacks and 3 set to gaining ability damage on enemies affected by corrosion would allow full armour-stripping + up to 45% *additive ability strength, plus the 120% damage increase of Galvanized Shot (assuming slash/puncture/impact/viral procs from the shots + Nourish), plus the damage increase of Viral from either a primer or Nourish. This allows for competitive damage plus armour-stripping without leaving Waltz, with the caveat of the armour-strip being mostly for levels 400+ (since things lower level tend to die too quickly to be fully stripped)(*I think the Emerald effect stacks additively, since that's what the Crimson one does, but I'm not sure). This is likely not as effective as Topaz shards (since you don't get 100% crit, and you only have 30% status even with Shot + two 60/60 mods), but it could prove useful in long endurance/Circuit runs. I'd like to know what you think! Regardless, I think you've done an excellent job with this video! I'll be sure to keep an eye out for future builds from you!
Hey Happy, great feedback. Putting vile acceleration there is one ugly blunder due to crunching the editing yesterday. It's obviously Anemic Agility as per the other builds. I have added that to the pinned comment. 1. I disagree regarding the off-putting of viewers. It might technically do that but it does so for a reason. As an example, I have recently had a friend get back into Warframe at MR17 and even he thinks the resources needed are insane. I can't imagine what it's like for an actual newbie. I will keep on mentioning this because it is the truth in my opinion. Whether or not it annoys other veterans is not something I can control anyway. 2. Your suggestion on shards would probably be the next step for sure. I simply lack the shards as I took a long break after archon release. 3. The ability damage from green shards does not affect regulators from my understanding, as the actual ability is something like "summon + buff regulators". You might get the extra ability damage on her 4 but as that is not the actual regulators themselves, it doesn't do anything. This might be changed later. I think armor strip for endless runs would be most optimal with pure toxin + archon continuity. This way you can both armor strip as well as deal raw damage to health, which should scale a lot better than corrosive. A potential problem I am foreseeing with corrosive only would be that once the armor is gone, you lose its damage bonus. This might be an issue for very high level enemies. Although the main issue with level capping Mesa is that you will most likely get blown up long before even reaching anywhere close to level cap. Your best bet would be to camp in a tiny room with a volt spectre or smth.
This gives me a good idea on how to progress with my mesa and actually my other frames. I feel likeam always stuck at lvl 3 with mesa because I simply think her value is in her 2 and 3 so will prob invest in her 4 which I did not bother as my regulators always felt weak.
This is probably the best mod guide vid I've ever watched as you have build for newer players, mid, and late game ones. Most vids only have late game vids while the majority of people who looked up those build guides don't have the mods for them.
First of all loved the video man im a mesa main myself and love to see good videos about her. My question is did u consider switiching out normal Vitality for archon vitality just for the extra heat dmg ? Keep up the good work
I used to run that but I do not have the capacity atm. The later builds have so much damage that you won't get much value out of double procs, because the enemy is dead before they tick properly. If you have the slots you should run it, it has no downside tbh. If you get to very high lvl enemies it will scale better :)
Hi! First i want to thank you for making this kind of build guides! For a very long time i had the same sentiment as u regarding build videos form other larger youtubers so am happy that you took the time to get more builds running for different types of players I could argument that incarnon weapons that need Duviri resources would be at lvl5 or tier 5 builds because personally i have been casually farming the circuit and some orowyrm for like a month now and still don't have the resources for crafting even one at cavalero, I'd have to go out of my way and find the resources much like mining in the other open worlds and that's quite time consuming/exhausting
The idea behind this levels thing was that people can mix and match the levels according to what they have. Using melees and arcanes as supplementation is a higher level technique for sure.
I have come to like MesasWaltz but if I go without I usually just put a parkour velocity mod or anything else that lets me move faster in-between casting her 4.
Hey nice build, but what do u think is better, primed redirection or umbra Vitality ? i think about the new shield gating of 2.5 s and using the companion mod of reinforced bond
Yes, it works. However it will not benefit your damage reduction, damage buff and later on, your helmith skill. Getting 95% DR on her 3 is very easy with just augur secrets and if you do not plan to subsume and/or subsume a strength reliant skill, I would consider it worth it. However, I haven't really tested this so consider this an educated guess.
just a quick question will it be okay to replace faction mod with galvanized shot for extra status chance in case we dont have the prime ones and will it be vialable for void cascade 1 hour steel path
I would need to actually test this, but assuming you are using everything else I'm fairly certain that even a non-prime faction mod would be more damage, most of the time. Status chance and raw damage scale really bad on Mesa. Haven't done much Void Cascade but damage should be enough. However, survivability would be an issue.
Great video, gonna share this with a friend who is thinking about getting mesa. Also I would like say some of my own opinions on mesa, I dont like running low range on her because the autoaim becomes worse. (I know its tied to fire rate but I deal more than enough damage regardless). And I have 3 Red shards for crit chance instead of modding for heat (faction damage instead), and 2 yellow shards for parkour. with how much damage I deal with mesa I dont need health or more damage reduction so I have 3 duration mods instead of narrow minded. Max dps isnt everything. which means I combine the ideas of youtubers to make a build that works for me. Just because something is "stronger" doesnt always mean better.... How something feels and easy of use is also part of how good something is. with how much damage I deal with mesa I dont need health or more damage reduction because enemies dies before they get the chance to hit me. so I have 3 duration mods instead of narrow minded. Max dps isnt everything. Build guides is not do or die, In my eyes its more of a guideline to understand the things you want to use not brainlessly follow. Edit: Are you going to make more videos? Because this was a banger
Hey strafe, there will absolutely be more videos. However, this series requires a lot of research so it will be uploaded rather sparsely. For now, I want to grow my channel which forces me to do higher volume uploads of more simple stuff (thanks RUclips). As for your feedback. I agree. At the end of the day it all comes down to ones needs, which is why the entire point of this series is to give people an idea, not to declare these the builds to use.
for the first build, im still trying to complete the star chart and ive looked on the wiki for how to get "fleeting expertise" and i dont think ill be able to get that any time soon. are there any other mods that are easier to get to replace that?
Using Mesa shield, the damage from the level 3 aura gets rounded down to a number less than 1. Therefore it's counted as zero and you do not take any damage at all. Unless it was fixed somewhere it should still work like that.
Love this video very well explained but here's my question do you think this build will still hold as i wanna main mesa love the video please do more and can you do a khora video next.👍👍👍👍
Either that and/or fill up the 100 kills of the ceramic dagger with primary kills. Without the convenience of filling that using regulators I may revise the entire build in the future, but I'm not really playing the game right now.
I've only been playing for almost 2 months now, getting builds like this have been a great help but and I applaud you for it but the thing I still dont really get is why the level 4 uses stuff like stretch or why your own level 5 is so different choosing more energy and more strength for less efficiency mods and almost forgoing that range, is it solely for survival like missions?
Hello, very good video, and great in-depth explanations for every build. I wanted to ask, is there anything specific regarding companions? Also, after the sandbox changes for elements etc., would any change be needed or not for the last 2 builds?
I haven't had any problems since the new update but I have also barely played. For companions, I simply use Wyrm prime for the companion mods and negate.
If you're not using umbra mods might as well throw that one on there. It doesn't have a downside apart from extra mod space. I'm simply not using it because I'm too lazy to forma. That said, as enemies die way too fast you'll hardly get much value out of it in most day-to-day content. It will however allow for some slightly better scaling into very high enemy levels.
If you're referring to the void energy that I've tried to mimic. That would be a combination of two colors for the Ice color palette. I can't give you exact ones because they change depending on the material that the frame uses. It's a mix of lighter and darker shade of turquoise. Usually I use the first of the second and third row combined.
I am using a low ranked Combat Discipline to proc Arcane Avenger. If you aren't able to do that combo yet you can basically put whatever you want. Corrosive projection to help yourself and teammates against armor perhaps. Or Energy Siphon. Could even run ready steel to maximize combo count for secondary outburst arcane. You will kill everything regardless of aura so it's not an important choice.
hi sorry quick question for your 3rd build, would you rather run energy nexus or equilibrium? and what mods should you carry on your sentinel? great video btw
It depends on the game mode. On high density missions (such as SP survival) I prefer to stick with Eqi. If I do something such as exterminate bounties. I'll swap in Nexus.
Well that depends on which one you mean. Either the base prime one or from her deluxe skins. The sentient and presidio skin both come with custom regulators.
@@theguywholikesturtlezOh that one is simply a regular pistol skin. Can't be used on the regulators. I think they were from a crossover event so unfortunately I don't think you can get it anymore.
hey bro i have a question i have 268% strength (with maxed corrosive projection mod)on mesa and subsumed pillage on her and have molt augmented at rank 0.. pillage sometimes fully strip armors and sometimes it doesn't fully strip, why is that happening? and also on mesa does pillage need 300% strength to fully strip armors?
Pillage needs 328% strength to strip in one cast (with your aura). Doing that is very difficult on Mesa because we do not build nearly enough strength. However, since you run Molt Augmented you will hit 328%. That makes the consistency issue hard to explain. Are you sitting at max stacks for molt augmented? Just one below max and you will lack 0.24% strength to hit the 328%. If you are, it could be a rounding issue in the math somewhere (either on pillage, or enemy armor values) which results in you not hitting 328 sometimes, but rather 327.X. Have you tried adding more strength to push it over 328%? Does that make it always strip? I'm not too knowledgeable about pillage but I know the game sometimes has issues when you are just barely hitting a threshold.
Just replying to myself here cause I missed that your molt augmented is rank 0. The issue is that you are not hitting the 328% strength needed. The reason it sometimes works would be because pillage can strip multiple times, so after 2 casts it will strip. You will need a rank 5 arcane to strip in one cast at 250x stacks.
If you're not using umbra mods might as well throw that one on there. It doesn't have a downside apart from extra mod space. I'm simply not using it because I'm too lazy to forma. That said, as enemies die way too fast you'll hardly get much value out of it in most day-to-day content. It will however allow for some slightly better scaling into very high enemy levels. I find melee crescendo to be a pain to use, so I just use ceramic. However, now that mesa ult can no longer build the +100 initial combo for ceramic, melee crescendo is probably significantly better.
iidk what level am i but i would say between 4 or 5 because i can solo netracell just using her 4th , im still trying to maximize my damage for my regulator…..
Mesa can not really go to level cap regardless of mods. You can get relatively far by camping in a corner but eventually without better defense you will simply run out of lives. Some eximus abilities just straight up ignore her shield. If you do wanna go that far I would advertise a green shard armor strip build, but it will be quite useless unless you are into the thousands because enemies simply do not have enough health to strip armor in normal content. Overall I would not recommend playing Mesa for level cap.
Regulators are Mesas unique weapons used for the ultimate. They will unlock automatically if you unlock Mesa. To see them you need to pick Mesa in your arsenal.
IMPORTANT CORRECTIONS:
2:07 - It's supposed to be Anemic Agility (like in the other builds). Putting vile acceleration there was a mistake due to late evening crunch!
4:27 - The reason they are intertwined is because a level 5 min-max build usually minmaxes the level 4 predecessor.
Bro im Sorry but im a fking casual man. I really like the frame ans want to do endless steel path. Would the lvl 5 build work for me or am i cooked. Btw im only playing mesa so i dont really care how expensive her build is.
@@anonymanonym3669 It depends on what you mean by endless. I explained this in another comment somewhere but Mesa struggles when we're talking really high levels. If you plan to go into the thousands you should actually consider armor strip green shards instead of full orange. Just keep in mind that they will be almost completely useless before you reach those enemy levels.
The main problem is that you will eventually get oneshot by things that ignore her shield (like some eximus abilities). So if you are running a solo mode you will run out of revives guaranteed. You can use the LVL 5 build, add 2 green shards and try to camp in a corner I guess. Tell me how far you got :)
@@Norrschein i still have some farming to do for arcanes but thanks. i will when i have everything together
if you go full minmax would it not be better to go umbral vitality for more strength and health?
I'm blind af in video games and I finally realized I should play mesa instead of squinting my eyes all the way in a grineer ship.
U can highlight enemies with a setting in the accessibility tab
First, great video. Good production quality, good music, not too loud or overpowering. Most importantly: The format you used to go over the builds was great! Having the mods present at the top all the time rather than a quick flash on screen is what I’ve always wanted. It let me watch your gameplay, while checking the mods and making the connection with what was happening. The only thing I was missing was a little reference to your first videos. Pointing out the resource savings with your method vs the ones you called out might have been helpful. But overall, great video and it will help me with my Mesa a lot!
Hey Nebula, thanks for the feedback. I mentioned this in a community post some time ago but I really just want to leave those videos behind, which is why I am just minimally referencing them here. They may have gotten 20x the amount of views in the same time span but I somewhat regret that being my first uploads and simply wish to do more positive content.
@@Norrschein I totally get what you mean. What I really took away from your prior videos was how we don’t need to go all crazy to do the content. And you do cover that well with the way you showed each level of progression from beginner to min-max. 👍🏽
This type of video hits a nice spot for returning players. Looking forward to more when time allows!
Great build. Makes me want to give mesa another shot. Quality and information where great on the video and got right to the point. Cant wait to see what you cook up next
Why another shot ? Is she shitty ?
Heya, it was definitely worth taking your time with this video, the quality really shows!
That said, I don’t recommend using base damage mods like hornet strike on Regulators. Mesa’s ability strength gives her a ton of base damage, which stacks additively.
Hey Fluffie, good to see you again. I'm not sure about the investment here. Growing a small channel is largely about volume and I think 2 weeks for an upload isn't so good. However, I am just very pressed on time. I'm essentially blowing any free time I have on this.
Regarding hornet strike it's hard to say without testing. Until you swap to Blind Rage instead of transient it's probably only a minor difference (in terms of diminishing returns) if any. However, faction mods are also not that popular so for the sake of accessibility I did not include them until level 4 and onward.
@@Norrschein I definitely feel you >.< All my spare time goes into making vids, but even at that rate I can only manage to make a build video every 3-4 weeks. I try to put out smaller videos in between to balance out the drought.
For build wise its probably not much of a difference as you said. Could use Normal or Primed Heated charge for Corrosive + Heat instead of base damage mod. Was an excellent video nonetheless. All the best on growing your channel!
Pretty good video bro. Very sobber and the info is pretty accesible for everyone without wasting time.
Min maxing warframes and builds are great and we all love making million of dmg with red crits, but sometimes that's not what you're looking for. Sometimes you are looking for something simple and functional, and that's something that the warframe yt creators are severely lacking and you're providing with videos like this.
Hey Jose, thanks for the feedback! I am hoping that I am filling a niche here so that I can grow my channel. That said, this type of content isn't the high intensity stuff that RUclips promotes so only time will tell.
You should make more guides like this with other warframes or weapons the the introduction and presentation of this video is really helpful
Hey man. Thanks for the guide. I'm fairly new to warframe, and found Mesa and Mesa Prime's design really cool and decided her to be my main. This gave me an insight as to what my current capabilities are in terms of modding. Will wait for the next rotation of primed mods to see if some of those in the video appear. Thanks a lot!
I love this video. I recently got Mesa Prime and I'm loving her, she's my favorite warframe out of the 10-12 I've used. Her fashion is out of the charts and I love playing around her regulators. This video helps me with builds so well, only problem is that it is hard to grab some of these mods because I have absolutely no platinum 😭 but that's not your fault. Anyways, great video❤
Glad you enjoyed!
If you need platinum try farming the Deimos bounty for weeping wounds with your Mesa and add some parkour velocity to her to make her alot more fun to use. You can get it from exilus parazon mod or melee offhand like preados. You just rubberband her across the sky as she blasts everything lol.
damn a rly good video it feels more unique than others and i rly like it keep it up. Hopefully u make more guides like this
Hey Norrschein! Great video! The production quality is top-notch, and I also think your choice of music is great! I found the video logically structured and easy to follow, so I personally do not agree with your comment about it being all over the place. Coming from a veteran perspective, the only potential issue that I can foresee arising (from other, more reactionary vets) is that your strong emphasis on the time and resources it takes to get to your endgame/min-max builds could be off-putting/annoying -- I personally did not find this to be the case, and I do like how you're kinda pushing back against the bigger, more clickbait-y Warframe RUclipsrs by emphasizing that min-maxing isn't necessary, but it's something to keep in mind if you get hate for it (since people on the Internet love to hate).
Now, as for the builds: solid all around! I liked how you explained the basics of what Mesa wants for her abilities and Regulators, and also gave extra explanation regarding more "controversial" mod choices (ie. in your level 1 build, Augur Pact vs more fire rate; also, since the Regulators can't equip Vile Acceleration [from my knowledge], it probably would have been better to use Anemic Agility in that instance to better illustrate your point -- you do say "a mod like Vile Acceleration", and to you and me that obviously means Anemic or Gunslinger, but the new players your level 1 build targets may not!).
Finally, regarding specifically the min-max build: going 5 Topaz shards (2 Tau 3 non) for +300% crit chance makes a lot of sense! If you really wanted to go nuts, 4 Tau Topaz shards will also get you to +300%, allowing you to slot something like a Crimson shard for more ability strength, or an Amber for rolling during Waltz, or a Violet to help with energy sustain or something. Of course, that's EVEN MORE investment, but hey, if we're min-maxing...? I also liked your note about the Furis Wraith with its augment + melee crescendo, and how it's technically better IF you take the time to set it up.
I also wanted to get your thoughts on a potential armour-strip build with Emerald shards. I know that it would technically be more efficient to just use Pillage or something else to armour-strip, but for the sake of discussion: 5 Emeralds, 2 set to increase max corrosion stacks and 3 set to gaining ability damage on enemies affected by corrosion would allow full armour-stripping + up to 45% *additive ability strength, plus the 120% damage increase of Galvanized Shot (assuming slash/puncture/impact/viral procs from the shots + Nourish), plus the damage increase of Viral from either a primer or Nourish. This allows for competitive damage plus armour-stripping without leaving Waltz, with the caveat of the armour-strip being mostly for levels 400+ (since things lower level tend to die too quickly to be fully stripped)(*I think the Emerald effect stacks additively, since that's what the Crimson one does, but I'm not sure). This is likely not as effective as Topaz shards (since you don't get 100% crit, and you only have 30% status even with Shot + two 60/60 mods), but it could prove useful in long endurance/Circuit runs. I'd like to know what you think!
Regardless, I think you've done an excellent job with this video! I'll be sure to keep an eye out for future builds from you!
Hey Happy, great feedback. Putting vile acceleration there is one ugly blunder due to crunching the editing yesterday. It's obviously Anemic Agility as per the other builds. I have added that to the pinned comment.
1. I disagree regarding the off-putting of viewers. It might technically do that but it does so for a reason. As an example, I have recently had a friend get back into Warframe at MR17 and even he thinks the resources needed are insane. I can't imagine what it's like for an actual newbie. I will keep on mentioning this because it is the truth in my opinion. Whether or not it annoys other veterans is not something I can control anyway.
2. Your suggestion on shards would probably be the next step for sure. I simply lack the shards as I took a long break after archon release.
3. The ability damage from green shards does not affect regulators from my understanding, as the actual ability is something like "summon + buff regulators". You might get the extra ability damage on her 4 but as that is not the actual regulators themselves, it doesn't do anything. This might be changed later.
I think armor strip for endless runs would be most optimal with pure toxin + archon continuity. This way you can both armor strip as well as deal raw damage to health, which should scale a lot better than corrosive. A potential problem I am foreseeing with corrosive only would be that once the armor is gone, you lose its damage bonus. This might be an issue for very high level enemies.
Although the main issue with level capping Mesa is that you will most likely get blown up long before even reaching anywhere close to level cap. Your best bet would be to camp in a tiny room with a volt spectre or smth.
This gives me a good idea on how to progress with my mesa and actually my other frames. I feel likeam always stuck at lvl 3 with mesa because I simply think her value is in her 2 and 3 so will prob invest in her 4 which I did not bother as my regulators always felt weak.
Regulators are the real deal in Mesas kit. I strongly advise you to focus your build on those.
This is probably the best mod guide vid I've ever watched as you have build for newer players, mid, and late game ones. Most vids only have late game vids while the majority of people who looked up those build guides don't have the mods for them.
First of all loved the video man im a mesa main myself and love to see good videos about her. My question is did u consider switiching out normal Vitality for archon vitality just for the extra heat dmg ? Keep up the good work
I used to run that but I do not have the capacity atm. The later builds have so much damage that you won't get much value out of double procs, because the enemy is dead before they tick properly. If you have the slots you should run it, it has no downside tbh. If you get to very high lvl enemies it will scale better :)
all right. im running ur lvl 5 mesa set up rn only missing the ceramic dagger otherwise its 1:1 pretty fun @@Norrschein
Hi! First i want to thank you for making this kind of build guides! For a very long time i had the same sentiment as u regarding build videos form other larger youtubers so am happy that you took the time to get more builds running for different types of players
I could argument that incarnon weapons that need Duviri resources would be at lvl5 or tier 5 builds because personally i have been casually farming the circuit and some orowyrm for like a month now and still don't have the resources for crafting even one at cavalero, I'd have to go out of my way and find the resources much like mining in the other open worlds and that's quite time consuming/exhausting
The idea behind this levels thing was that people can mix and match the levels according to what they have. Using melees and arcanes as supplementation is a higher level technique for sure.
@NorrscheinsFoundry Was wondering what you recommendation was for the exilus slot for mesa
I have come to like MesasWaltz but if I go without I usually just put a parkour velocity mod or anything else that lets me move faster in-between casting her 4.
Great guide, AND you added timestamps! 👏👏👏👏👏
i love your honest full content unlike the other half ass lazy content
Hey nice build, but what do u think is better, primed redirection or umbra Vitality ? i think about the new shield gating of 2.5 s and using the companion mod of reinforced bond
nice vid my you've got my sub cant wait to see more vids from ya
Does Precision Intensify (90% ability strength for your 4th ability) work for mesa's regulators. Or is it better slotted for something else?
Yes, it works. However it will not benefit your damage reduction, damage buff and later on, your helmith skill. Getting 95% DR on her 3 is very easy with just augur secrets and if you do not plan to subsume and/or subsume a strength reliant skill, I would consider it worth it. However, I haven't really tested this so consider this an educated guess.
@@Norrschein Aight, I'll try both and see what feels nicer to use. Probably the extra damage reduction of Mesa's E is better than the overkill damage.
just a quick question will it be okay to replace faction mod with galvanized shot for extra status chance in case we dont have the prime ones and will it be vialable for void cascade 1 hour steel path
I would need to actually test this, but assuming you are using everything else I'm fairly certain that even a non-prime faction mod would be more damage, most of the time. Status chance and raw damage scale really bad on Mesa. Haven't done much Void Cascade but damage should be enough. However, survivability would be an issue.
Got my eye on you. Good work.
Great video, gonna share this with a friend who is thinking about getting mesa.
Also I would like say some of my own opinions on mesa, I dont like running low range on her because the autoaim becomes worse. (I know its tied to fire rate but I deal more than enough damage regardless). And I have 3 Red shards for crit chance instead of modding for heat (faction damage instead), and 2 yellow shards for parkour.
with how much damage I deal with mesa I dont need health or more damage reduction so I have 3 duration mods instead of narrow minded. Max dps isnt everything.
which means I combine the ideas of youtubers to make a build that works for me. Just because something is "stronger" doesnt always mean better.... How something feels and easy of use is also part of how good something is. with how much damage I deal with mesa I dont need health or more damage reduction because enemies dies before they get the chance to hit me. so I have 3 duration mods instead of narrow minded. Max dps isnt everything.
Build guides is not do or die, In my eyes its more of a guideline to understand the things you want to use not brainlessly follow.
Edit: Are you going to make more videos? Because this was a banger
Hey strafe, there will absolutely be more videos. However, this series requires a lot of research so it will be uploaded rather sparsely. For now, I want to grow my channel which forces me to do higher volume uploads of more simple stuff (thanks RUclips).
As for your feedback. I agree. At the end of the day it all comes down to ones needs, which is why the entire point of this series is to give people an idea, not to declare these the builds to use.
Love the video. Just got into Warframe and Mesa is nice just wondering does focus school affect this build? Sorry for the noob question.
for the first build, im still trying to complete the star chart and ive looked on the wiki for how to get "fleeting expertise" and i dont think ill be able to get that any time soon. are there any other mods that are easier to get to replace that?
Should i stick to full crimson tau shards or go for topaz?
i'd suggest a normal bane mod over augur pact
What about the Aura ?
@norrschein what is the reason that you have combat disciplin only at level 3 would you lose to mutch life at max?
Using Mesa shield, the damage from the level 3 aura gets rounded down to a number less than 1. Therefore it's counted as zero and you do not take any damage at all. Unless it was fixed somewhere it should still work like that.
Love this video very well explained but here's my question do you think this build will still hold as i wanna main mesa love the video please do more and can you do a khora video next.👍👍👍👍
The Gun and Blade no longer works correct? So what should I do now? Crescendo?
Either that and/or fill up the 100 kills of the ceramic dagger with primary kills. Without the convenience of filling that using regulators I may revise the entire build in the future, but I'm not really playing the game right now.
I've only been playing for almost 2 months now, getting builds like this have been a great help but and I applaud you for it but the thing I still dont really get is why the level 4 uses stuff like stretch or why your own level 5 is so different choosing more energy and more strength for less efficiency mods and almost forgoing that range, is it solely for survival like missions?
Already 10year ?
I use Quiver on Mesa. She becomes invisible which is very deadly considering her AOE. 😩
let's goooooooooooooooooooooooo thanks
Hello, very good video, and great in-depth explanations for every build.
I wanted to ask, is there anything specific regarding companions?
Also, after the sandbox changes for elements etc., would any change be needed or not for the last 2 builds?
I haven't had any problems since the new update but I have also barely played. For companions, I simply use Wyrm prime for the companion mods and negate.
so if i wanna build mesa ability strength it not to helpful if its 300 percent
Idk if you’ve been asked or not but have you tried Archon Vitality on Mesa with Heat/Corr Regulators?
If you're not using umbra mods might as well throw that one on there. It doesn't have a downside apart from extra mod space. I'm simply not using it because I'm too lazy to forma. That said, as enemies die way too fast you'll hardly get much value out of it in most day-to-day content. It will however allow for some slightly better scaling into very high enemy levels.
its been 84 years 👴
So much to do, so little time..
How are you able to roll and move while in peacemaker?
Mesas Waltz Augment!
sorry to ask this on this kind of video but what color is that used for level 5 mesa if u could share?
If you're referring to the void energy that I've tried to mimic. That would be a combination of two colors for the Ice color palette. I can't give you exact ones because they change depending on the material that the frame uses. It's a mix of lighter and darker shade of turquoise. Usually I use the first of the second and third row combined.
Hey, great in depth video, one question what are you using for her auramod slot?
I am using a low ranked Combat Discipline to proc Arcane Avenger. If you aren't able to do that combo yet you can basically put whatever you want.
Corrosive projection to help yourself and teammates against armor perhaps. Or Energy Siphon. Could even run ready steel to maximize combo count for secondary outburst arcane.
You will kill everything regardless of aura so it's not an important choice.
Im using that as well though my arcane avenger is not maxed yet and i dont have arcane for combo on my melee yet thank you for the reply
Ayo great video
hi sorry quick question for your 3rd build, would you rather run energy nexus or equilibrium? and what mods should you carry on your sentinel? great video btw
It depends on the game mode. On high density missions (such as SP survival) I prefer to stick with Eqi. If I do something such as exterminate bounties. I'll swap in Nexus.
off topic, but what skin are you using for the regulators?
Well that depends on which one you mean. Either the base prime one or from her deluxe skins. The sentient and presidio skin both come with custom regulators.
@@Norrschein from your first video specifically, it kind of looked like a real life pistol, thank you though!
@@theguywholikesturtlezOh that one is simply a regular pistol skin. Can't be used on the regulators. I think they were from a crossover event so unfortunately I don't think you can get it anymore.
Great vid makes me wanna try mesa now. But can a similar vid be made for octavia plz. Everybody says she strong and shows random builds.
hey bro i have a question
i have 268% strength (with maxed corrosive projection mod)on mesa and subsumed pillage on her and have molt augmented at rank 0.. pillage sometimes fully strip armors and sometimes it doesn't fully strip, why is that happening? and also on mesa does pillage need 300% strength to fully strip armors?
Pillage needs 328% strength to strip in one cast (with your aura). Doing that is very difficult on Mesa because we do not build nearly enough strength. However, since you run Molt Augmented you will hit 328%. That makes the consistency issue hard to explain. Are you sitting at max stacks for molt augmented? Just one below max and you will lack 0.24% strength to hit the 328%.
If you are, it could be a rounding issue in the math somewhere (either on pillage, or enemy armor values) which results in you not hitting 328 sometimes, but rather 327.X.
Have you tried adding more strength to push it over 328%? Does that make it always strip? I'm not too knowledgeable about pillage but I know the game sometimes has issues when you are just barely hitting a threshold.
Just replying to myself here cause I missed that your molt augmented is rank 0. The issue is that you are not hitting the 328% strength needed. The reason it sometimes works would be because pillage can strip multiple times, so after 2 casts it will strip. You will need a rank 5 arcane to strip in one cast at 250x stacks.
i appreciate the infos you gave me.. now i understood why my pillage didn't armor strip in one cast.. thanks again bro❤️
Pretty cool, but 2 suggestions. Why not use archon vitality? And second; you could use melee crescendo to easily build up initial combo.
If you're not using umbra mods might as well throw that one on there. It doesn't have a downside apart from extra mod space. I'm simply not using it because I'm too lazy to forma. That said, as enemies die way too fast you'll hardly get much value out of it in most day-to-day content. It will however allow for some slightly better scaling into very high enemy levels.
I find melee crescendo to be a pain to use, so I just use ceramic. However, now that mesa ult can no longer build the +100 initial combo for ceramic, melee crescendo is probably significantly better.
iidk what level am i but i would say between 4 or 5 because i can solo netracell just using her 4th , im still trying to maximize my damage for my regulator…..
As a mesa main I can tell u ur min max is quite in adequate my friend try using archon mods and red shards instead u will see what I mean
can mesa go to level cap or is that hard for a new player with these mods
Mesa can not really go to level cap regardless of mods. You can get relatively far by camping in a corner but eventually without better defense you will simply run out of lives. Some eximus abilities just straight up ignore her shield.
If you do wanna go that far I would advertise a green shard armor strip build, but it will be quite useless unless you are into the thousands because enemies simply do not have enough health to strip armor in normal content.
Overall I would not recommend playing Mesa for level cap.
does it kill level cap ?
Im new new to this game how do i get the regulators? Or do i need mesa prime?
Regulators are Mesas unique weapons used for the ultimate. They will unlock automatically if you unlock Mesa. To see them you need to pick Mesa in your arsenal.
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Well, hmmm a new sub.