The Dongle (dingle dangle) Rig explained - The Best Shore Rig For Catching Big Fish
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- The Best Rig For Big Fish From The Shore - The Dongle Rig
This video explains the principles behind the dongle rig and how it works. Also how to build a couple of different versions and how to bait the rig properly. This rig will work for rays, stingrays, bass, bluefish, shark, drum, grouper, cod, halibut etc etc.
I got into pulley rigs and Imp clips for casting reasons to stop the helicopter effect of a usual Paternoster rig .Then found the Imp clip wouldnt take the 8/0 hooks for Mulloway.....mmmmmm.....down on the beach brain storm snell a hook with long tag end with the spring clip off a swivel on the tag end to go into the release part of the Imp clip....necessity....mother ..invention moment that Im sure some South African Cob fisho came up with 20 yrs ago! Thanks for posting the latest evolution Cheers
Hi, I would just like to say thank-you for taking the time to make the two videos on dongle rigs. I made up 8 before I fished a very snaggy mark with boulders and a whole load of kelp. I’ve used various rigs in the past with various success but this rig was by far the best I’ve used. I didn’t lose any rigs I did lose 4 weights but managed almost a fish a cast including a 9 1/2lb Huss, congers to 8lb and even a rockling and pout believe it or not! 🎣👍
Thanks for the comment, really appreciate it. I'm glad the videos have helped you and I'm glad you have found the rig useful. If you don't mind me asking, what area are you fishing?
@@gsp Hi, I’ve been fishing the north coast of Devon. One thing I have noticed with the rig is that the weak link line of 20-30lb mono has been wrapping around the hook length loads and can take many minutes to unwind. I did also try amnesisia 20lb which did the same. Any suggestions? I’ve been using yuki 80lb fluorocarbon as my hook length. Thanks in advance
Ive used this rig for the last 10-12 years and never tied the hook on via the loop always Snell the circle and always had good hook ups
The perfection loop will increase hook ups. It gives the circle hook as much movement as possible allowing it to always pull around into the corner of the mouth🎣
I just tie to the ring, but I only use 50lb mono.
@@redtobertshateshandles try using the perfection loop knot , the whole rig will work better👍
Excellent Rig, Many Thanks for sharing.
No problem👍
Funnily enough I used this rig on bossington for conger and spurdog with Whiting heads 👍 crap for hounds though as they smash it and run and dont get hooked. Had alot of thornys using it ace for catch and release 👍 ace vid nicely presented. Just subbed 🎣🎣🦈🦈💪💪
Many thanks for the sub and glad you liked the vid👍
Explained very well , thank you will be giving the dongle a try.
Many thanks 👍 good luck
Like te rig thank you. My concern would be fish not hitting the hook but only the dongle but I've never tried it. If for example I was to make a sausage of crab bait with elastic and then just hooking it through one end I believe it would be presented in a similar way but equally I understand that the benefit of the rig is that all the pressure is on the hook snood not the weight. It's all confidence at the end of the day and it clearly does work I just wonder if the hook up rate would be the same presenting it in this way against the bait being directly on the hook. Many thanks
I would really only use this rig when fishing massive baits for massive fish. A fish thats going to swalllow the bait whole and in tje situation where you need the really heavy hook snood. In the uk, from the shore i would probably only use it for tope, big congers and skate
Here in Australia this would catch Snapper and Mulloway. The bait being on the dongle makes no difference. The fish inhale the bait.
Hope all is well and you had a top weekend all ways injoy catching up with you brother big thumbs 👍 from your brother tyson
Great stuff, thank you.
Very interesting, I've already got a number of pre made wire circle hook rigs with a swivel that I originally got for deadbaiting pike but I found the wire they used to be a bit too heavy. I threw them in my sea tackle and occasionally throw them on a paternoster for bull huss or bass when something too small to eat swallows a hook but they can be a pain to put any other bait on since it's a circle hook. Honestly I never would have thought of "hair rigging" on that scale but I'll definitely be giving this a shot, seems like a really nice simple rig for playing big fish with the mainline direct to the swivel like that so all I'd need to do is tie on a weight link to the swivel of the wire rigs I've already got and I can make up some dongles from cutting up pike traces I have in the old junk tackle bag that are kinked or have bent out hooks etc. Cheers for the video mate, it's always good to find new techniques to try out, half the fun of fishing after all
Exactly! Very simple for you to convert and a very effective rig. This rig is used alot in South Africa for all the big species fished at distance and if all fishermen use it out there with the amount of big fish they have then it has to work well👍
I've caught common skate with this setup. Last year I stopped using a fixed loop at the bottom of the hair and just have a kicker of the wire to clip down. I found sometimes the loop doesn't pop off with bigger baits.
I havent experienced an issue yet (touch wood) 🤦♂️. It is a very good rig😁
Bit like a sea version of a hair rig.... looks good
Basically yes but it's alot more than that. It allows you to clip the weight up and fish very light lead link with a heavy hook link direct to the fish. It allows for a lot of different size baits to be used too. It also protects the hook length from shark teeth
@@gsp I’ll be using it this year I reckon for the south coast tope run.... IF we’re allowed to go out to play!
It's an excellent rig for tope! You'll hook them all in the corner of the mouth, just don't strike with the circle hook and let them run for a bit first
@@gsp yeah, I like circle hooks for cats too....
Great video, thanks mate 🎣
No problem 👍👍
Great video. Can the dongle be used with big baits on a pulley rig. I noticed on the rig you made the rig body was longer so it made a loop so when the bait was clipped down the rig body wasn't touching the bait. I believe this is the main system anglers use in South Africa. The problem I can see with the pulley is that the rig body will still be touching the bait. Just wondering if there is away to make the rig body slack on a puuley rig
The only problem I have found using the dongle on other rigs is that you'll get alot of missed bites. It works best for big fish with big big baits.
Brilliant, cheers
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I've been tring to figure out how to thread a worm up the dongle and fix it so it doesn't fly off.
Honestly I wouldn't recommend a single rig if your fishing with worms. The main aim of this rig is to allow casting of a big big bait on the breaking strain of the hook length as opposed to the lead link.
If your aim is just to hair rig a worm to a different rig I'd personally prefer it on a hook as there is more hold🤔
TOTAL OVERKILL !!!!!
Yeah completely overkill for shark fishing🤦
Work well when have used it for smoothhounds rays and bass, not sure how well it would work for cod though, not sure can tempt me away from a 4/0 pennel rig with hooks fully exposed either end of the bait for that
I would agree. I think I would use it if I knew I was fishing for cod 5lb and over but when it's an unknown and bites can be finicky hook's in the bait are better 👍
Great video.
Cheers david👍
Hello
Do you get any problems with the bait coming off when casting, because using a hair rig I use a stopper to prevent it coming off
Not at all. The top of the bait is hooked onto the circle hook and then it is wrapped tight to the single with baig elastic. I've never had bait come off
Hi mate What was the lb and make of the titanium leader, heading off to canary’s early next year going to tie a few of these up. Thanks 👍
I think it was 80lb but I can't find the spool anymore and cannot remember what brand it was sorry 🤦
@@gspnot a problem mate keep up the good work anyways, thanks a lot
Have you herd of the wackanoster rig
Great video, got me thinking.... If you hook a fish but the weak link doesn't break then you would be dragging the fish in alongside your lead? This rig looks like it will present a bait in the same way a standard pulley rig does? Maybe you could adapt a pulley rig if you like the hair rig style and fish a rotten bottom? Or maybe I got the rig wrong?
This rig is the most common rig used for big fish in the whole of South Africa and its very effective. I do understand where you're coming from but this rig works because it is a direct attachment from main line to hook length and because its all cast on the hook length strength. You could do it with a pulley rig but then there are alot of things going on where as this rig is very simple and can be switched between different Dongle lengths and lead link b/S with ease. And believe me when you're hooked into a 300lb+ stungray the 6 oz lead isn't event noticeable!😂
@@gsp I don't doubt the rig, it really does look great and I love the videos..... I was more thinking the extra fuss of adapting a pulley rig would be kinder on the fish as its not getting dragged in on top of a grip lead? Also perhaps more chance of retrieving your lead and leaving less in the water?
In theory for smaller 'big' fish i.e bass, cod etc it would work and you would keep the lead up, in line and out of the way. For bigger fish, tope, big rays, shark, kob there are 2 reasons this rig is far better. 1 because you're clipping the lead to the hook length and not the other way round you can fish a big bait without having to balance it with a lead weight, so you can fish a bigger bait than lead which you cannot do with a pulley. 2 when you are fishing for big fish you want to get rid of that lead and also have a direct knot and swivel link to your mainline. If youre applying 12-15kg or more drag then the swivel resting against the knot above the lead on a pulley rig will cause damage and could lose a big fish. Ive even had beads split!
I think for smaller stuff it may work OK because you can easily offer a peeler crab on a Dongle without affecting the balance of the rig and it would cast fine👍
@@gsp I see what your'e saying.... sounds like I'm never into a fish big enough to be worthy of the rig 😂
@@jasonbaker3447 😂😂😂sorry had to laugh! If you targeted tope with big baits this rig would be ideal
Called a dingle dangle by us and been using it for years with circle hooks
Are you based in SA? It's something I've used for a while but realised not many people in Europe know about it so thought I'd post a video
@@gsp yes from SA we use it alot when having to make a far cast with a big bait plus it improves your hook up rate
@@curtisparker7607 totally agree! I find it the best rig for and big fish or any fish that swallow baits. Some UK anglers will take alot of convincing!
This is a dingle dangle rig, south african Competitive anglers use it with a limited slide trace.
Yes it's the same rig👍
Very good idea and it should work on pike fishing too. Did you ever think about halibut pellets on hair for skate or other fish? I mean they are oily and hard ,good for crabs, and it should leave a good scent. They are very successful on catfishing
No but that's a good idea. I'm trying to experiment with bait so that could be a vid there!
@@gsp I’m sure they’ll work for whiting! 😜
@@timfromammoniteknives4212 I reckon they would too!
@@timfromammoniteknives4212 everything works good for whiting
@@mikid5203 indeed, before Xmas I even caught one on a bluey/black lug cocktail about 4” long! 😂
A guy made a mini one and caught a lovely sole
They are good rigs👍
Who invents these rigs greg very interesting.
These were developed in South Africa to allow the casting of large baits clipped up. This rig allows a bait heavier than the lead to be clipped and cast
Hmmm...is it possible to put sub titles on in American English with contemporary Colloquialism used by the people across the pond from you that have no sense of geography or math? Thanks. Great video though
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That rig reminds me of the wackanoster
Never ever heard of it!
@@gsp it's a total awesome fishing show rig
Great video Greg, I might make some if we ever visit somewhere hot again 😜 Unless your planning on selling pre made ones 😉 🤣
There's not enough hrs in the day as it is! 🤦♂️😂😂
Tell me about it! I need to get abroad! They work very well in fuerte mate
@@gsp I know first hand mate , had my first butterfly ray on a dongle. Wanted to try casting just a lead then sliding a big bait down , hard going with a 5oz lead and a whole sardine in that wind 😳 🤣 I think the wind used to follow us there 😁
😂 I know exactly how you feel 🤦♂️😂
Easier to leave it on the hook to bait up.
Bait is bigger than the fish you catch off the beach in the uk 🇬🇧
Lol🤦♂️. It's and ideal rig for UK tope, skate, spurdog etc
@@gsp for sure, it's a good rig, no good in the south east of England though lol whiting, rocking and flounder.
@@richiedd4119 blimey you must have a secret mark! 🤦♂️😂😂
Korda pliers only good for the bin
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