Can Labour Fix the UK's Prisons Crisis?

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024

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  • @JohnCroucherAU
    @JohnCroucherAU Месяц назад +711

    UK prisons overcrowded? As an Australian, I’m concerned 😂

    • @danielway8691
      @danielway8691 Месяц назад +13

      😂

    • @joesoap4477
      @joesoap4477 Месяц назад +6

      lol made me laugh :)

    • @EEE-1409
      @EEE-1409 Месяц назад +2

      Eyy I get it! XD

    • @charlespinman
      @charlespinman Месяц назад +15

      You guys got room? Or a continent available?

    • @gormless-idiot
      @gormless-idiot Месяц назад

      As an American I'm concerned too, they were dumping them here first!

  • @MatthewJBD
    @MatthewJBD Месяц назад +1348

    80% reoffending rates prove that the current system has failed.

    • @tygrenvoltaris4782
      @tygrenvoltaris4782 Месяц назад +17

      Recidivism.
      Awful policies and management

    • @DavidZ4-gg3dm
      @DavidZ4-gg3dm Месяц назад +2

      16K inmates in the UK are Muslims.

    • @AV-es3cn
      @AV-es3cn Месяц назад

      @@DavidZ4-gg3dm So 71K of them are Christians?
      Why even bring religion into it?
      Look at how many are lower class and you'll see a clear correlation between crime and income. But that wouldn't suit the narrative you're trying to push.

    • @windwaker0rules
      @windwaker0rules Месяц назад +94

      @@Snipe_the_Hype look at this robot.

    • @magnusmights2265
      @magnusmights2265 Месяц назад +127

      ​Then how come the countries with the nicest prisons such as Norway and Sweeden ​have some of the lowest reoffending rates @Snipe_the_Hype

  • @alexandermilbank9827
    @alexandermilbank9827 Месяц назад +229

    When even America has a lower reoffending rate than the UK, something has gone terribly wrong

    • @Username18981
      @Username18981 Месяц назад +7

      Only because cities have stopped jailing re-offenders

    • @jojoohyeah4761
      @jojoohyeah4761 Месяц назад +5

      @@Username18981and as the U.K has shown…that’s a good thing

    • @prasanta5139
      @prasanta5139 Месяц назад +6

      U.K. prision is a fully paid for 0 expense holiday, USA prison is punishment for the crime.
      Reason 80% reoffends, prison must be a good place to be in. HMP Wandsworth had female officer giving stress relief to inmates.

    • @reksapluss716
      @reksapluss716 Месяц назад

      influx of africans
      simple as

    • @heliumfreak5364
      @heliumfreak5364 Месяц назад +1

      Cause most people in America spend most if not all their life in jail for very little offending

  • @burger9997
    @burger9997 Месяц назад +676

    80% reoffending rates tells you everything

    • @ParaquatSC
      @ParaquatSC Месяц назад

      you have to understand how much of the native UK population is just completely unable to contribute in the 21st Century. Tech illiterate, actually illiterate, lazy, entitled, poor comprehension on most topics and unable to contribute to our future. They're the same ones who have the gall to vote Reform and blame immigrants for their issues. The education system failed them, their parents failed them. And they live among us AND they have a vote. Scary stuff

    • @Ehrgeiz33
      @Ehrgeiz33 Месяц назад +2

      What's the domestic feelings regarding the judicial system though? Are people vindictive or do they see emphasis should be on reintegration of convicts instead of punishment?

    • @tecwynjones6532
      @tecwynjones6532 Месяц назад +14

      ​​@@Ehrgeiz33Well Britain is very attached to the notion of justice rather than rehabilitation or anything. They see something wrong, they want that person to get punished (not by their hand, but still), and that can become quite extreme in some people's minds, thinking a person who got 4 years was much too little.
      I don't think it'll be pretty for sure, but if it has to happen then it'll have to because it's in such a dire state. Don't think most people knew how bad it was

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 Месяц назад

      ​@tecwynjones6532
      Are you aware that so called "rehabilitation ideology" is a collosal failure, if the repeat offender does not want to change?
      California or Chicago is also famous for soft on crime policy. It has very high crime.
      Recently a career criminal from Chicago did a whole string of offences. He laughed and told police he would be out within a WEEK, which was the normal "rehabilitation" thing.
      Instead, he accidentally committed his crimes across the County border.
      So instead he got 20 YEARS.
      Which policy has less crime victims?

    • @pebblepod30
      @pebblepod30 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@tecwynjones6532
      Again, which one has less crime victims, of those two policies?
      You can't change someone who doesn't want to change.

  • @Balance275
    @Balance275 Месяц назад +452

    The highest tax burden in 50 years and it feels like every public service is understaffed and underfunded. Where is the money going???

    • @AngDavies
      @AngDavies Месяц назад +73

      In theory...paying interest on the national debt

    • @kaanyasin3733
      @kaanyasin3733 Месяц назад +27

      ​@@AngDaviesthe intrest is Bad, but it could be much worse. The japanese pay 20+% on debt

    • @conconmc
      @conconmc Месяц назад +2

      Incorrect, they haven't even raised interest rates since COVID

    • @FLAIR__
      @FLAIR__ Месяц назад +11

      @@conconmc As far as I know, large sums of money was borrowed during covid time as the interest was near 0% however since it has risen rapidly and large sums of money are having to be paid out to cover it.

    • @George-be4vn
      @George-be4vn Месяц назад +22

      Tax cuts

  • @getnohappy
    @getnohappy Месяц назад +683

    Tories didn't just fail spectacularly, recent documents suggest it might have failed criminally

    • @simoncarlsson668
      @simoncarlsson668 Месяц назад +9

      Which documents? Sounds partisan.

    • @superhumantrueman
      @superhumantrueman Месяц назад +80

      @@simoncarlsson668 If you don't know the documents, how does it sound partisan?

    • @Tadakachi
      @Tadakachi Месяц назад +90

      @@simoncarlsson668 parmesan

    • @digidevil4
      @digidevil4 Месяц назад +63

      @@Tadakachi The Italians are to blame? of course.

    • @gnrmetallica95
      @gnrmetallica95 Месяц назад +7

      @@digidevil4always are!

  • @markthacker9975
    @markthacker9975 Месяц назад +244

    Worked in the prison for 3 weeks at hmp Lowdham Grange. Quit on the spot after witnessing some horrifying things. The training for new PCOs (fancy name for prison guard) is crap. The jail I worked in had a massive staffing problem which meant there were 60 new members of staff joining at the same time. There were points where I was on a wing with staff who’d been there as long as I’d been. We didn’t know what we were doing, we didn’t have any support, and I’ve kept in touch with some of my old colleagues and at least 2/3 of the trainees who started the same time I did have quit within the first 3 months. The prison system is so so seriously screwed

    • @Minimmalmythicist
      @Minimmalmythicist Месяц назад +8

      It seems that way, the prison system simply isn´t working and I can´t see how a youngish offender wouldn´t actually have a higher risk of becoming a serious criminal after a stint in prison.

    • @mullenio4200
      @mullenio4200 Месяц назад

      'Screwed'. Get it. 😂

    • @Antiluls
      @Antiluls Месяц назад +2

      Would you say the influx in prison inamtes is directly tied to illegal immigrants?

    • @Minimmalmythicist
      @Minimmalmythicist Месяц назад

      @@Antiluls if they were illegal immigrants they could just be sent home

    • @worldofdoom995
      @worldofdoom995 Месяц назад

      glad you didn't get seriously hurt.

  • @richardboldbrooker6327
    @richardboldbrooker6327 Месяц назад +56

    So this is a result of 14 years of austerity measures. And now Labour are going to pick up both the bill and the blame.

    • @allytank-itykitty7417
      @allytank-itykitty7417 Месяц назад +14

      sad part is they have a lot of work to do, and already people are pointing at them and calling them useless. I think they will improve it but it wont be enough for the likes of the tory and Reform and they will try to rally all the people who do not educate themselves about this and cause another scene.

    • @notforgotten3685
      @notforgotten3685 Месяц назад

      @@allytank-itykitty7417same people gullible enough to vote Leave are the same ones that are saying that. Stupid is as stupid does.

    • @4m4n40
      @4m4n40 Месяц назад +3

      @@allytank-itykitty7417the right’s really good at scapegoating

    • @finlayames6216
      @finlayames6216 Месяц назад +2

      @@allytank-itykitty7417I saw people blaming Labour for a non UK based company standardising all their products to meet new EU regulations (rather then have EU models and everywhere else models). Those new regulations were decided after the UK left the EU so the whole UK had nothing to do with it, never mind a labour government that had existed for roughly 24 hours.

    • @moddalgaming3619
      @moddalgaming3619 Месяц назад

      Nah, this is thanks to Immigration

  • @johnhobbes2268
    @johnhobbes2268 Месяц назад +273

    Germany, for comparrison has a reimprsion rate of 36% (Reoffending 48%) (Don't know the numbers for other european countries, but I think they will be similar.) 80% is just a complete failiure.

    • @ExarchGaming
      @ExarchGaming Месяц назад +52

      Norway has the best in europe (last i looked) at like an 18 percent recidivism rate, and they treat their prisoners extremely humanely, look up halden prison, they get like an apartment almost, which here in the US people claim that it would just encourage crime to treat prisoners humanely, but norways recid rate is so low that the argument falls on its face

    • @Alex-fm5ke
      @Alex-fm5ke Месяц назад

      It’s not 80% going back to prison it’s 80% of those convicted and cautioned had previously been convicted or cautioned. The number you’re referencing for Germany is reconviction after 3 years, the same statistic for the U.K. 66%. But this data is almost 20 years out of date.

    • @Oflaherty86
      @Oflaherty86 Месяц назад

      ​@@ExarchGamingWhat about the Dutch? Last I heard they were letting cells to the Norwegian just to have a reason to keep the prisons open.

    • @johnhobbes2268
      @johnhobbes2268 Месяц назад +1

      @@Alex-fm5ke the reoffending rate for Germany is 48% and 80% for the UK. I've explicitly quoted both numbers

    • @AxGerm756
      @AxGerm756 Месяц назад

      This is not a failure. It's by design.
      Because if you privatize prisons and force the inmates to work for free or for minimum wage (like in the US)
      You get cheap or free labour for rich companies. And for that to work you need
      - Privatized prisons
      - enough inmates
      ( So the more often they return the better)
      Exactly what the US is doing. Which is also why they don't want to fix their crime problem on the other side of the Atlantic. They want free Labour 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Snorlax-cuddles
    @Snorlax-cuddles Месяц назад +35

    For some reason I can't quite explain, England running out of space for prisoners worries me greatly.
    Not that I need to worry, I live in Australia.

    • @aceman0000099
      @aceman0000099 Месяц назад

      I love how australians occasionally say "fuck off we're full" despite the fact their country is empty as fuck lol

    • @epicprogamer2822
      @epicprogamer2822 Месяц назад

      They really aren't most prisoners end up in Scotland anyways

  • @07_sev52
    @07_sev52 Месяц назад +113

    Putting people in prison for just planning a peaceful protest is ludicrous. No wonder you have a prison issue.

    • @tecwynjones6532
      @tecwynjones6532 Месяц назад +11

      Yeah, there was a bill that basically made it illegal to carry superglue near a protest. I don't really know if that one passed or not, but stupid nonetheless

    • @supernukey419
      @supernukey419 Месяц назад +1

      @@tecwynjones6532 Can I get some context? Were they trying to stop people from assembling protest signs or something? Canadian here

    • @MrDaveyboy1985
      @MrDaveyboy1985 Месяц назад

      ​@@supernukey419people were gluing themselves to things so they couldn't be removed. Superglue dries almost instantly to skin so they were pouring it over their hands and sticking themselves to the road or whatever, it is then a very slow process to remove them as they can't just tear people's skin off.
      I know in the US they call superglue CA glue, not sure about you folks North of the border

    • @supernukey419
      @supernukey419 Месяц назад +2

      @@MrDaveyboy1985 I know what superglue is, I just didn't think people would actually superglue themselves to things. That's either dedication or lunacy

    • @tecwynjones6532
      @tecwynjones6532 Месяц назад +1

      @@supernukey419 Well in either case, if you needed superglue for any other reason, you'll have jail time/a big fine, or just both if you were walking past a protest

  • @hobela8515
    @hobela8515 Месяц назад +54

    80% reoffending rate is crazy.

    • @zenster1097
      @zenster1097 Месяц назад

      What is crazy is why people care about releasing the worst back into society.

    • @LifeisajokeER
      @LifeisajokeER Месяц назад

      what is more crazy is the underfunding of the probation service which is tasked with lowering the reoffending rate

    • @fpvDRE
      @fpvDRE Месяц назад

      makes perfect sense when its a holiday camp inside and learn more about crime inside than out also drugs a hell of a lot easier to get too 👍

  • @matthewparker9276
    @matthewparker9276 Месяц назад +159

    Well prison sentences for protesting wont help.

    • @AttemptToTemptMe
      @AttemptToTemptMe Месяц назад

      Maybe you would change your mind if you read the accompanying notes from the judge’s sentencing. BlackBeltBarrister did a good video about it

  • @ericherde1
    @ericherde1 Месяц назад +21

    So that’s why Sunak called the snap election: he knew the rails were about to come off even more, and he didn’t want to be left holding the bag!

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      @Misc003 Месяц назад

      He’s smart 😂

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  • @sovietspaceship
    @sovietspaceship Месяц назад +174

    people should be more worried about the hundreds of tories now roaming the streets after being released early from parliament

  • @MissesLykaa
    @MissesLykaa Месяц назад +10

    As someone who lives in the Netherlands where prisons close down because there aren't enough prisoners, this is absolutely wild to me

    • @KaisarHendrik
      @KaisarHendrik Месяц назад +2

      Well to be fair prisons in the Netherlands are also near capacity.
      But because we have a shortage of prison guards, not anything like this.

  • @porphura4448
    @porphura4448 Месяц назад +27

    Paying to keep people locked up is a pretty terrible system. Tories wanted national service to build community and belonging, I think I might have found another outlet.
    It's a shame that to a lot of people, when you get charged you are no longer a person and should be treated like cattle. Any reform on this will work for a vast majority of people and communities, but I suspect will inevitably get torn down after a single high profile case of it failing causing a massive emotional backlash.

  • @PsychoSavager289
    @PsychoSavager289 Месяц назад +62

    Follow Norway's model. They focus on rehabilitation rather than punishment. It's hard to promote among the fire-and-brimstone part of the populace but the results speak for themselves: only a 20% recidivism rate.

    • @nenasiek
      @nenasiek Месяц назад +6

      Are those new nrs? Every scandinavian country has had a rise in crime the last cpl of years.
      And we are making/getting alot more career criminals.

    • @richardboldbrooker6327
      @richardboldbrooker6327 Месяц назад +20

      Now, now, that is far too humane and progressive and could actually help. Every good Brit wants something to bellyache about. How on Earth can they do that if they go and improve things?! One genuine criticism though. Norway has a 5.5 million population and the UK a 67 million population. Plus we don't know all the other things like, have we got jobs for these people and a legal system that is fairer on people. Remember it's literally a crime and a social stigma to be poor in Britain.

    • @bigbear5844
      @bigbear5844 Месяц назад +15

      That’s works. If your culture is Norwegian.

    • @jojoohyeah4761
      @jojoohyeah4761 Месяц назад +8

      @@bigbear5844yes, because Norway is the only country in the world with the “right” culture that allows prisoners to reintegrate into society through government policies 🙄

    • @Finnbobjimbob
      @Finnbobjimbob Месяц назад

      We don’t have the money

  • @A1D3NR1L3Y
    @A1D3NR1L3Y Месяц назад +3

    I find that people are being put in prison for the most pathetic crimes. Here's an example.
    A friend of mine was sent to prison for 30 days for calling someone a slew of derogatory slurs on a night out - arrested within minutes of the police being called. Then, moving onto an ex-classmate of mine - ADMITTING IN PERSON that he had sexually assaulted a minor, followed by leaked texts, images, etc - did not spend a single day in prison or face adequate punishment. He was sent away for a fortnight and then suddenly re-integrated into school.

  • @matthewsprague7674
    @matthewsprague7674 Месяц назад +3

    Not jailing people for "hurty words" on Twitter would be a start.

    • @amied7361
      @amied7361 Месяц назад

      And maybe not arresting people for pepper spray or carrying defensive items since in other European it’s legal France and Italy or maybe that’s just me

  • @SMSBJM1981
    @SMSBJM1981 Месяц назад +4

    Who would have that massively increasing immigration while cutting back on policing and not building new prisons would have such negative consequences.

  • @insu_na
    @insu_na Месяц назад +24

    there's always still australia

  • @n00dl3
    @n00dl3 Месяц назад +13

    Punitive justice demonstrating time and time again that it just doesn't work. Even worse, with recidivism like this, it actually does the opposite of intended.

    • @gormless-idiot
      @gormless-idiot Месяц назад

      based pfp

    • @RextheRebel
      @RextheRebel Месяц назад +2

      No, it does work. You just have to actually enforce the law instead of releasing ppl who should not have been or allowing plea deals/DAs not doing their part.

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Месяц назад

      You should study the actual crime stat numbers. Prison doesn’t work well but it works better than all other kinds of punishments (for certain offenses and certain types of criminals). In fact, we know for a fact that many prison sentences are much shorter than they should be.

  • @Alucard-gt1zf
    @Alucard-gt1zf Месяц назад +7

    As another note, as of s couple weeks ago most people half way through their probation period have just been told that their sentence will be cut by a 1/3 meaning they will only serve 2/3 of their probation sentence

  • @benjamindover2601
    @benjamindover2601 Месяц назад +4

    I’m a prison officer, they can come up with all sorts of fancy work arounds and smart ideas but the fact is the prison service needs more officers and they need to build more prisons, anyone who suggests there is anyway forward other than these two facts doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

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  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 Месяц назад +5

    This just shows the failure of the Tory 'prison works' ideal. The re-offending rate proves that wrong by itself. In the medium to long term the UK needs to move to a supportive rehabilitation system that would allow former convicts into legitimate professions rather than being faced with a stark choice of life on benefits or turning back to crime. The short term issue is a lot more tricky as there are just not enough places to go around and pretty much any steps the government might take to deal with the issues are likely to take more time than they have in order to stop the prisons from overflowing.

  • @jamessteel9016
    @jamessteel9016 Месяц назад +138

    Because the Tories failed spectacularly.

    • @godlovesyou1995
      @godlovesyou1995 Месяц назад +12

      Please be able to see both sides mate, not healthy to blindly follow a political party and blindly hate the other.
      Not every problem is because of 'tory incompetence' and every labour mistake will certainly not be down to it.

    • @gilbertxaviertansri9c853
      @gilbertxaviertansri9c853 Месяц назад +46

      @@godlovesyou1995 sorry but no, this prison over crowding problem is definitely because of the tories incompetence. did you not listen the "how did things get so bad" section ? he has explained why and how is has gone to shit
      but about the "labour mistake" we can only wait since labour just got into office, let their action speak rather than words

    • @FuzzyRiy
      @FuzzyRiy Месяц назад +6

      @@gilbertxaviertansri9c853 You need to remember the prisons have existed longer than 14 years ago.

    • @user-uw5ps6nr8g
      @user-uw5ps6nr8g Месяц назад +3

      When does prison exist? I'm sure it is before Tories is even a thing

    • @superhumantrueman
      @superhumantrueman Месяц назад +27

      @@godlovesyou1995 Lol, only one side was in power for 14 years. Only one side could do something but they chose not too.

  • @andrewballard2564
    @andrewballard2564 Месяц назад +1

    You can deport 40% of prisoners maybe more. Other 40% released early 20 % have to stay

  • @byoung8529
    @byoung8529 Месяц назад +7

    I have hope for the new labour government! The current 80% reoffending rate is proof the system has failed

    • @masterbarnard
      @masterbarnard Месяц назад

      I just wish more felt this way, especially Conservative voters. Can they not give the current government even 6 months to address the issues?

  • @Chalize
    @Chalize Месяц назад +1

    I didn't even know we had a prison crisis until Labour mentioned it. Rishi was busy talking about the boats and inflation going down .

  • @LudvigIndestrucable
    @LudvigIndestrucable Месяц назад +1

    How is the 'drug war' not being mentioned?
    A part of the liberalising should include a liberalising of drug laws and stop the huge waste of time and money on that failing enterprise.

  • @RedJadeArt
    @RedJadeArt Месяц назад +9

    This needs to be preceded with “the Tories were already doing this 6 months before labour even got in”.
    Labour’s hands are tied by the circumstances they were given.

    • @ChristehzROTMG
      @ChristehzROTMG Месяц назад +2

      Promises promises… yet they did nothing. Labour already has a plan and is taking action

    • @RedJadeArt
      @RedJadeArt Месяц назад +8

      @@ChristehzROTMG exactly. Under labour these releases are temporary. Under the Tories they were just part of business as usual.
      But as Starmer said, you can’t just clap your hands and build a prison, much less staff it. And the presence of James Timpson, a big advocate for reform and employment of former prisoners, makes me think we’re getting a different strategy that’s going to focus on reform and employment, thereby and tackling reoffenders.

  • @ClaudeYoung
    @ClaudeYoung Месяц назад +13

    Im from the states but lived in the UK for 15 years (Life was pretty sweet under PM Blair). It's amazing the changes that took place under the Tories. They literally Americanized the British justice system. It's heartbreaking to see....

    • @user-lb1yw6fc7l
      @user-lb1yw6fc7l Месяц назад

      Yeah you clearly don't understand dwhst Blairs government did, ever heard of ipp sentence? Young people getting 1 year ipp sentences only to still be in prison 15 years later... things might have seemed good under Blair but that was because he was spending all the money and getting us into huge debt. The tories had to come in and be the bad guys trying to balance the books.

    • @Srindal4657
      @Srindal4657 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@user-lb1yw6fc7l i always used to think Blair's government was good because it helped poor people, because it was labour. But I was a child back then. I never got to see the Margaret Thatcher era and was just told she was evil. But she got 2+ terms, all voted in by people! I see all these homegrown organisations littered around the town I live in, and I think how much more good could they of done if they were getting funding from people, rather than the state. The local level, that's where problems are solved. I wonder...

    • @Draggonny
      @Draggonny Месяц назад

      ​@@Srindal4657Give them your money and see what they do with it.

    • @TomSmith-jp1es
      @TomSmith-jp1es Месяц назад +4

      ​@@Srindal4657 So you were happy under Blair, didn't live under Thatcher but wish for it? You just lived through 14 years of Thatcherite Britain and look where we are. Stop kidding yourself.

    • @Srindal4657
      @Srindal4657 Месяц назад

      @@TomSmith-jp1es no, I'm saying maybe people should have more control over their lives. Doesn't matter if it's Blair or Margaret. All that matters is that people have control over their lives

  • @iano4027
    @iano4027 Месяц назад +4

    convert all the unused london office space to meet prison demand? 😂 UK has been festering issues for a long, long time.

  • @hungo7720
    @hungo7720 Месяц назад +1

    It seems that the odds are stacked against Labour right now given the creaking public service most notably the NHS and the prison system.

  • @joanbrown9376
    @joanbrown9376 Месяц назад +5

    This piece is better than most on this complex subject. But it is hobbled by dint of failure to give sufficient emphasis to the extreme cognitive dissonance of the gormless populism of the last fourteen years. For example, being ‘tough on crime’ but failing to deliver a coherent strategy for incarcerating prisoners. Indeed, utter contempt for anything which doesn’t mirror the simplistic capitalism of running a whelk stall, has undermined many of the institutions and processes that make life worth living.

    • @Ste-The-Leo
      @Ste-The-Leo Месяц назад

      The previous government had the solution.... Do you not remember "hug a hoodie"?

  • @Jacaerys1
    @Jacaerys1 Месяц назад +1

    How could the previous Government of 15 years allow this to get this bad?

  • @suspiciousafternoon
    @suspiciousafternoon Месяц назад +25

    need you guys to talk about what happened in Harehills, Leeds yesterday.

    • @xander6522
      @xander6522 Месяц назад

      They won't because it doesn't fit their pro mass immigration narrative.

  • @user-mx1yk8mj2l
    @user-mx1yk8mj2l Месяц назад +1

    why dont they address the issue with the increase in crime instead

  • @ThomasBoyd-lo9si
    @ThomasBoyd-lo9si Месяц назад +1

    Awesome. Brilliant content. Spot on.

  • @james8449100
    @james8449100 Месяц назад +1

    Anyone else think the previous gov did this on purpose to avoid jail time

  • @Cybernaut551
    @Cybernaut551 Месяц назад

    Fascinating, keep up your reporting!

  • @Ridz149
    @Ridz149 Месяц назад +2

    Never understand austerity

  • @phyllislovelace8151
    @phyllislovelace8151 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you TLDR

  • @user-md3rn2dk1c
    @user-md3rn2dk1c 4 дня назад

    Someone I knew from Reigate had a brother who went to school with "Queer Stalin", a horrible nickname. Not sure if it is one and the same.

  • @federicoprice2687
    @federicoprice2687 Месяц назад

    Thanks for this excellent update.

  • @TubersAndPotatoes
    @TubersAndPotatoes Месяц назад +2

    Well, the new government wants to build a lot of new housing.
    Prisons are some sort of ...housing

  • @jb8408
    @jb8408 21 день назад +1

    Maybe they should stop imprisoning people for Facebook comments

  • @jeremyallen5974
    @jeremyallen5974 17 дней назад

    Hell no, they're more concerned with jailing people for memes than they are with addressing the fact they're releasing the refuse of society back out onto the streets

  • @huwgrossmith9555
    @huwgrossmith9555 Месяц назад +2

    Check what Holland is doing

  • @eggsforvegans
    @eggsforvegans Месяц назад +1

    lol I would be in jail if it wasn’t so full.. but here I am watching the shit list 😂

  • @michaelgreen1515
    @michaelgreen1515 27 дней назад

    Thanks to the Labour minister; TDLR; mainstream and social media for giving people the impression in this summer hear that they wouldn't face any justice for their actions...

  • @dulio12385
    @dulio12385 Месяц назад +18

    Leading to unchecked criminality... so a normal day in Parliament.

    • @jamesoneill8920
      @jamesoneill8920 Месяц назад +6

      @@StrikeBolteafc I think they were implying that the tories *were* the unchecked criminality

    • @matthewparker9276
      @matthewparker9276 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@jamesoneill8920if not politicians in general.

    • @wtfamiactuallyright1823
      @wtfamiactuallyright1823 Месяц назад

      Put our convicts in hotels? I'm told they're not in use.

  • @SD-tj5dh
    @SD-tj5dh Месяц назад

    Turn the isle of Wight into a massive prison island.
    The ferries are too expensive anyway.

  • @yoho...
    @yoho... Месяц назад +1

    What isn't collapsing in the UK?

  • @kevingoodwin9278
    @kevingoodwin9278 Месяц назад

    Out of curiosity, is there going to be more content on TLDR business?

  • @danli2419
    @danli2419 Месяц назад

    Pascal Sauvage needs to step in and save the day

  • @penguinsentinel8508
    @penguinsentinel8508 Месяц назад +1

    I did a short stint with the Probation Service. Deeply disturbing, but the worst people we ever delt with in terms of personal attitude were the traffic offenders.

  • @Matyniov
    @Matyniov 16 дней назад

    lets not forget crime doesnt come from nowhere, all this stuff stems from rampant poverty in all of UK excluding london

  • @guss77
    @guss77 Месяц назад +11

    It's a little known fact that the US judicial system's insistence on "presumed innocent until proven guilty" originated as a protest against the pervasive opinion of the UK judicial system where (at least at the time, but also a bit now) often the court assumes you are guilty solely based on the fact that you were charged and you have to prove your innocence - something that is often hard to do against the built-in bias.

  • @RP9SPORT
    @RP9SPORT Месяц назад

    The reality is that there are community resolutions, cautions, and suspended sentences before anyone being sentenced to prison time. So you basically have 3 free passes for low level offences which teaches people THERE ARE NO CONSEQUENCES. Then when people are sentenced to prison time it is very short and they only have to serve half! If you want to reduce reoffending, stop letting letting them out early. Stop letting criminals walk the streets.

  • @Libertaro-i2u
    @Libertaro-i2u Месяц назад +1

    Well, eliminating hate speech laws would help.

  • @espinoname2988
    @espinoname2988 Месяц назад

    Seems like an amazing idea to let criminals out just because you run out of space. Honestly anything else would be better, keep them in hotels or something whilst you build new prisons.

  • @kls1836
    @kls1836 Месяц назад

    They should find an island and ship em off there.

  • @Weightyloan15
    @Weightyloan15 Месяц назад +13

    We are fucked

  • @friedrichvonhoffmeister3343
    @friedrichvonhoffmeister3343 Месяц назад +5

    London is under the most pressure. Huh? I wonder why. Soooo Strange what makes london a relatively wealthy part of the uk so ridden with crime.

    • @petewest3122
      @petewest3122 Месяц назад

      Only 'racists' know the answer

  • @MaisieSqueak
    @MaisieSqueak Месяц назад +2

    Why show Starmer in Prison clothes?
    Is it a problem of Labour's making?
    Doesn't take long for you to jump on Labour's throat for absolutely nothing does it?
    It's supposed "Neutral reporters" like you that see this country flip back and forth with absolutely no peace or resolution to the mess it's in.
    STOP doing sensation!
    THINK about the country's future and what it NEEDS to recover from this.
    ACT on that and actually report on things that need attention and fixing... instead of looking to create issues where there are none.
    Labour have been in office for less than a month. Let them get into their stride and actually make changes before you start laying into them for the sake of clicks.

  • @martindimov289
    @martindimov289 Месяц назад

    Private prisons!

  • @holahovito11
    @holahovito11 Месяц назад

    Build more prisons..

  • @liaminwales
    @liaminwales 24 дня назад

    This aged badly, 3 days or less is already over.

  • @jamespayter6948
    @jamespayter6948 Месяц назад +1

    Hmm, i wonder what could've happened over the last 14 thats led to this mess...

  • @calvinfatman7918
    @calvinfatman7918 12 дней назад

    🎵Free free, set them free.......🎵

  • @benjaminwalls4000
    @benjaminwalls4000 Месяц назад

    Bruno Bettelheim, a Holocaust survivor, once said, “Punishment may make us obey the orders we are given, but at best it will only teach an obedience to authority, not self-control.”

    • @user-md3rn2dk1c
      @user-md3rn2dk1c 4 дня назад

      A CIA officer congratulated defector spy Yuri Bezmenov for his analysis of the Marxist attack on the USA.
      The CIA used it as a handbook instead of a warning from history, promoting the chaos and disorder in their vassal states, toppling regimes and rulers.
      It's terrible when books that are cautionary tales become handbooks.

  • @jablot5054
    @jablot5054 20 дней назад

    Lets have a conversation about the victims of crime , not re-offending. The criminals have a choice to commit crime the victims don't have a choice to be on the receiving end. Genetics has a role hear ,stop the cycle .

  • @jomdorr1240
    @jomdorr1240 Месяц назад

    It has already broken down. Research the shows published on the police by the Urban Scoop.

  • @wickedpuma6331
    @wickedpuma6331 Месяц назад

    Goated thumbnail

  • @fpvDRE
    @fpvDRE Месяц назад +2

    course they can !! they will let everyone out problem solved 😂😂

  • @insekki
    @insekki Месяц назад

    Legalising drugs would be a start.

  • @Bazalad_77
    @Bazalad_77 Месяц назад +1

    Labour won’t fix anything.

  • @ThexMJT
    @ThexMJT Месяц назад +2

    Tories failed yet another aspect which they pride themselves of being 'champions' of.

  • @JJW410
    @JJW410 Месяц назад

    I notice yous said the reoffending rates are high in England and Wales, is there something that Scotland and NI are doing differently?

    • @Draggonny
      @Draggonny Месяц назад +2

      I did a bit of googling, looking at Scotland specifically. Scotland has a higher burden of proof for criminal prosecution cases so they could potentially have a lower rate of incarceration from that, easing some pressure on prisons. They're also working towards banning prison sentences of less than 12 months as these are, according to the Chief Exec of the Scottish Prison Service, "ineffective" and "do more harm than good". So they're more focused on community rehabilitation for non-violent crime. This does line up with the information used to predict reoffending rates. Positive social connections, stable housing, employment and financial security are all considered to be "protective factors" that reduce the risk of reoffending. Taking people from their homes, jobs, families, and reducing their earning potential to around £1.50 per day is stripping them of these protective factors and surrounding them with 1000 other criminals is exposing them to "anti-social" influences and exposing them to alcohol and drugs. I think Scotland also is one of the countries that are in the process of decriminalising drug possession so they treat it as a health issue instead of one of criminal justice, meaning that otherwise law-abiding recreational users won't have the barrier to employment of a criminal record.

  • @michaelmayhem350
    @michaelmayhem350 Месяц назад

    UK prisons? I thought that was just Australia lol 😂

  • @TheBritishBarman
    @TheBritishBarman Месяц назад +1

    So we're fucked. What a surprise.

  • @charlespapineau1236
    @charlespapineau1236 Месяц назад

    The conservative contradiction. They dont understand that you can't be tough on crime and a fiscal conservative. Being tough on crime means more government.

  • @razabadass
    @razabadass Месяц назад

    Thanks😊

  • @user-uw5ps6nr8g
    @user-uw5ps6nr8g Месяц назад +20

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    • @jckrielesq
      @jckrielesq Месяц назад +22

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    • @user-rs1iq3kt6l
      @user-rs1iq3kt6l Месяц назад +2

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    • @Username18981
      @Username18981 Месяц назад +2

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    • @jckrielesq
      @jckrielesq Месяц назад

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    • @mordsythe
      @mordsythe Месяц назад

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  • @tommclovin4328
    @tommclovin4328 Месяц назад

    If you think this is bad look at australia they have millions of convicts

  • @dandelion6195
    @dandelion6195 Месяц назад

    His body is behind bars but his head isn't?

  • @returnnull3476
    @returnnull3476 Месяц назад +1

    Did they really forget that Australia exists?😊

  • @Dan19870
    @Dan19870 Месяц назад

    Perhaps G4S and other private security firms could build and operate facilities in the UK

    • @danielbanbury378
      @danielbanbury378 Месяц назад

      Though how long would it taken to build and staff. That's the thing

    • @user-md3rn2dk1c
      @user-md3rn2dk1c 4 дня назад

      well given the state of K4Stalin it is highly possible

  • @iGamezRo
    @iGamezRo Месяц назад +1

    Ok, but what about the Scottish and Northern Irish Prison Services? If they aren't as overcrowded send them there.

    • @AxentMafia
      @AxentMafia Месяц назад

      And when they fill up?

    • @PCDelorian
      @PCDelorian Месяц назад +3

      Thereby outsourcing our problem. Their prisons are better managed than the English (and Welsh) system, in large part because knee-jerk reactions to moral panics passed by Parliament don't tend to apply to the Northern Irish system and even rarer do they effect Scots Law. Their prison systems though are not massive and designed for very few people in comparison to England. You should also consider than sending them further and further afield creates problems with familial connections (visiting someone held in the Highlands when you live in Cornwall probably isn't a viable solution for you) which increases reoffending rates since families are known to be an important part of rehabilitation, there's also costs of transporting them. It would complicate paperwork and probation jobs as license conditions would need to be worked out, being different across the UK. Scotland and England have very different legal systems (especially criminal justice) and whilst Northern Ireland's more similar the Irish Sea makes practical considerations when it comes to the large scale moving of prisoners.

    • @iGamezRo
      @iGamezRo Месяц назад +1

      @PCDelorian It doesn't outsource the problem. The country officially is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The UK is trying to be both an unitary and federal state. It can't be both.

    • @Draggonny
      @Draggonny Месяц назад

      ​@@PCDelorianIt is possible to transfer prisoners between UK countries and even abroad but it is currently done by application by the prisoner and only to return to their country of origin.

    • @PCDelorian
      @PCDelorian Месяц назад

      @@DraggonnyTrue and it already causes problems for the NMOS, further the familial issues mentioned would not apply in such cases since it gets you closer to your family and further a lot of the issues are only problematic at scale.

  • @suewardastrologer
    @suewardastrologer Месяц назад

    Why does the thumbnail show Starmer in prison? Has he already upset you?

  • @paulbielakovski3217
    @paulbielakovski3217 Месяц назад

    Is nobody saying send them to Rwanda or do we just not hear from those people any more?

  • @pieterjan29
    @pieterjan29 Месяц назад +1

    Damn the British have a lot of crisis.

  • @empire6732
    @empire6732 Месяц назад +1

    And what about capital punishment? It usually works(or at least worked).

  • @simex-hm4rr
    @simex-hm4rr Месяц назад

    No

  • @DruidHark
    @DruidHark Месяц назад

    This is what happens when you implement “tougher sentences”

  • @masterbarnard
    @masterbarnard Месяц назад

    Makes me so annoyed at the state the outgoing Conservative government left the country in.