Not gunna lie, until I started seeing the sensor quirks like this, I was 100% sold on "I need a GH5 but have no need for GH5s." But now I really want GH5s and I don't even know anymore.
GH5 is a hybrid. Which is better for me. If you’re doing video mostly, the GH5S is probably better. As a hobbyist this is splitting hairs but VERY interesting as a nerdist.
I have both the GH5 and GH5s. When I bought the GH5, I bought it as a bundle with the Panasonic Leica 12mm-35mm f2.8 lens. The IBS lens on the GH5s makes a big difference.
I'm a newbie so I may be confused about this. SInce you know the GH5 color is a little off, can't you do a custom LUT and color correct in post really quickly?
Having watched both of your videos on the GH5s I'm now completely sold on it, thank you so much for taking the time out to explain it all to us properly .
Excellent comparison! This is the first time I've seen someone do an overlapping comparison and then an expanded view like this. The more I look at the GH5S, the more it looks like my next camera, as an upgrade from the GH4.
Great video, Caleb. Just FYI...Your links are mislabeled in the description. You have to sets that are both called Panasonic GH5s even though one is linked to the GH5. Thanks for the great work you do.
Thanks for all the hard working comparing these two cams. Always a huge time saver for other shooters that want the best quality and don't have the time/knowledge to break down the sensors.
I've been following your channel since the beginning of Fall 2017 and I LOVE how much detail you put into your videos when it comes to comparisons/technical details that are not just useful, but RELEVANT to anyone who's in/trying to get into film-making!
Just "Subscribed" to your channel. Awesome work Caleb... A lot of work you put in and is appreciated... I would LOVE to see this same comparison between the GH5s and the new Sony A7iii. I'm torn between the GH5s and the A7iii. (I would use neither for photos, only video on a Ronin relying heavily on auto focus) Here are a few comparisons that I would love to see between the GH5s and the A7iii that I think would help a lot of us: 1. A side-by-side "autofocus" test between the GH5s (with the latest firmware and the 179 shutter hack) and the Sony A7iii. 2. The GH5s 10-bit 422 (highest bit rate) vs the A7iii 8-bit both 1080 and 4K (for dynamic range, banding, etc) 3. External out analysis from both cameras to an Atomos / Odyssey 7Q+ highest bit rate / color profile possible. Keep up the great work!
This is so interesting! Thanks for taking the time to try and sort this all out. Ultimately though, I think this just confirmed for me personally that full frame is the way to go. I can’t get enough of it!
This makes me incredibly excited! I have my brand new GH5s on the way and knowing how accurate your videos are compared to a lot of the watered down opinion pieces that have been popping up, its great to see the raw data that takes all the questions out of it. THANK YOU!
One question, I have GH5 with a speedbooster 0.71x and want to record in 6k Open Gate, shoud I buy Super35mm EF Lenses or Full Frame EF Lenses?? I'm trying to avoid any kind of vignetting. I was looking the Meike cine lens for full frame or super 35mm version. Thanks
Oh, my goodness. I geeked out so much on this one. I've really enjoyed my GH5S with Speedbooster. Totally the best at home video rig out there. I do miss the stabilization, but that's only when I go wandering outside of my room to film (which is super rare). I have found that my colors have looked great on the GH5s as well. I haven't had any sort of comments of the green look since I switched over. Once again, another fantastic video. I appreciate your work, friend!
and what now in 2024.. shall we let it go? is the G9 ll the right choice? or is the lower price of the GH5S the best still, or shall we wait for the new GH7... how to think for this year ahead? thanks!
Hey Caleb, great video! Maybe I missed this but did you list which lenses and focal lengths you used for each shot? I’m guessing you used the same lens for all of the metabones shots and then the same lens for the micro 4/3 shots?
I am looking into getting a gh5s. So i am checking this out a bit late. Maybe this has already been commented on..... The gh5s actually has a physically larger sensor. 17.3mm is the horizontal length of a normal 4/3 sensor. 18mm is the horizontal length othe gh5s sensor. Again, maybe this was already addressed, the video is however misinforming.
All I want to know is .... which one is better?? ;) Amazingly comprehensive study again Caleb, mucho compliments. The frame variances were pretty incredible and the GH5s + speedbooster seems to be the winner for me. Noticed a gradual increasing redness on your skin tones for the overall shot of frame comparions. Were you just so tired and angry at that stage or what it done intentionally? Big props to your single mother-wife for taking care of those two kids all the time! ;)
DSLR Video Shooter I didn’t have my gh5 to test it next to the gh5s so I never really noticed it having a larger field of view. But it only makes sense with the multi aspect sensor. This video proves it.
Please do this review: Low light test....GH5s (No speedbooster) vs GH5 w/ Speedbooster) or just tell me....does the GH5 with a speed booster hold its own against the GH5s?
Awesome video! I’ve always wondered about adapting full frame glass to the gh5s! It would be awesome to see the GH5s used with the 0.64 speed booster. I wonder how close to full frame you could get it?
Thanks for the video it’s great and I love the new intro👍 what would you say the best picture profile is for great skin tones on the gh5s? Using 4K 60 8bit for weddings
Excellent video Caleb! I'd love to see from you how gh5s performs color grade versus sony a7III , have you think on doing a review about that? it would be great!
Wow! I've been waiting for this for a little while now. Great video! Definitely worth the wait. And man I've been loving your stuff Caleb. Just got a G85, (and your Guide) to hold me down until I move on to the GH5s, and your channel has been my go to for those cameras, and pretty much anything else for over a year now, especially lighting.
Hey Caleb, if the pictures of the field of view comparison at 5:00 are correct than the Sony a6500 (4th place) and GH5 with Speedbooster (5th place) must change places. I checked your pictures and even zoomed in on a screenshot. There is definetly a wider field of view on the GH5 with speedbooster picture. Compare the 4 squares on the grey card and you can see it. Still a very good informative video!
Awesome video man! I was dead set on purchasing the GH5 for some time, but I thought I noticed those slight color differences that you proved. The GH5S really does look better. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison of the color science and tests between the A7III when that's released and the GH5S. I'm more comfortable using Panasonic and I've heard grading S Log footage from Sony can be a headache, so I'm curious if it's gotten any better and worth the switch.
This is an excellent comparison - thanks for all your work on this. You mentioned 10-bit 4:2:2 -- do you know of any software that will allow you to view and trim 10-bit 4:2:2 without rendering? I'm using MPEG Streamclip for that purpose on 8-bit, but it won't play 10-bit, and I'd love to take advantage of 10-bit, but having to render just to trim is too much overhead. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Will you be adding GH5S specific content to your GH5 video guide which you have ? I really want to know this ? OR will there be a separate guide for GH5S ?
Wish I could give this video two thumbs! Showing the pic in pic with the speedboosters and different sensor sizes was BAD A... well it was extremely helpful! And the field of view comparison is excellent making you a genius! Thanks, Praying for you! I hope God blesses you for helping so many others.
Great production value and I love that you took the time to do all these tests :) I’m leaning towards the GH5S, but not only do I have to compare it with the GH5, I have to consider the Black Magic Pocket 4k as well :p
Hey Caleb what are your thoughts on anamorphic shooting mode? Which camera has better options? What do you think about new black magic pocket 4k? Will it support anamorphic mode as GH5s?
Hey dude. Awesome videos on the GH5 & GH5s. I’m looking for a camera for music videos, live music, product and travel videos. Would you go with GH5, GH5s or the new Sony A7iii?
A great video about the comparisons. I am especially encouraged (if not downright shocked, to see how much difference the speed boosters make in the field of view, which again, affects crop. My question is do you see any difference in the sharpness of the image with or without the speedbooster? You asked about lighting in the other video. In this one, I would put a light in front of your face to light the area from the top of your eyes to the hat, which is very dark.
Great video! Subtle but noticeable skin tone differences. Any chance we can download the side by side GH5 GH5s colour tests clips. Would like to see if a simple preset could be made in FCPX to bring the GH5 colours inline to the GH5s. They aren’t fair off so would think this is possible.
Would love to see a color and dynamic range comparison between the GH5S and the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera. Given the BMD hasn't given any indication of updating the BMPCC, it's possible that one might "graduate" to the GH5S if the "color science" and the dynamic range are close. Although there's been Pocket vs GH5 comparisons that's not really competitive. No one has done a BMPCC to GH5S comparison so you'd be the first.
In terms of the actual performance of the sensor and the colours the BMPCC is just better, if you can deal with the lower resolution and short battery life. It really is meant to be a pocket cinema camera, unlike the GH5 which needs to still be good at stills and also have more versatility WITHOUT a bunch of accessories.
Keep in mind the GH5S is a very different beast than the GH5. As per Caleb's presentation the GH5S seems to be a cinema camera. Given the low pixel count it's not really focused on stills and the lack of IBIS most certainly means it needs accessories for stability.
Having that extra fov would be a well worth the upgrade I would think. The color is off a bit, but it seems like it would be easy to match the cameras right? Using the vectorscope and the color checker to color match.
Very interesting. Thanks Caleb for all your hard work in testing here! As a creator myself i know how much work goes into it! My thoughts... I have a feeling this is simply due to the change in sensor technology or calibration of the LUTs to the new sensor. It could be possible for Panasonic to release a firmware update to fix this in a future release. I would welcome a skin tone adjustment in firmware on the GH5 - Especially for VLOG-L as this would help in post more! It is interesting to note that the GH5 with a speedbooster produces a higher pixel resolution image in comparison to the GH5s and is more inline with Super 35 equivalency when shooting Film due to the GH5 downscaling of the sensor! The GH5s doesn't do this because it doesn't have the extra Megapixels to downscale with but it does have larger pixels which take in more light and produce less noise effects much more like a Fullframe camera so its getting those benefits (ie LOW LIGHT performance is better). For all those contemplating the purchase... Here are my reasons for choosing the GH5 over the GH5s: 1. Lower price 2. In body image stabilization and onsensor stabilization (+Anamorphic IBIS!) 3. Anamorphic and open gate shooting modes - I use anamorphic from time to time. 4. Higher resolution image over the GH5s in good lighting due to downscaling internally on the GH5 5. Slow motion footage is fantastic at 4K48, 4K60, 1080p120 (180 max but doesn't look that great) 6. I also Shoot photography and need some of those features. Buy the GH5s If you need: 1. Low light performance 2. Higher frame rates than GH5 - 1080p240 (versus a max of 180fps in GH5) 3 shooting fast moving or vibration sensitive shots where the IBIS is inhibiting. 4. Need slightly wider angles on your Fullframe adpated lenses, i can definintely see an advantage here for things like interior shots! But personally if you are going to spend that much more or already have a GH5, save up and wait for the Sony A7S3 when its released if you need a Fullframe Low light camera (unless you want to stay in panasonic ecosystem entirely). I always recommend using the right tool for the job. Hope that helps!
Great video! I’d love to see this comparison after you apply the Lemmings LUT One which totally fix skin tones perfectly and or step back a step to get more information in the background. The GH5 is so sharp you can literally move 10 feet back without any loss in quality.
man it was def. worth when it was released, so why shouldn't it be worth for 2020? It depends on what you want to work out. It's a beast of a camera mate.
Hi! What's you opinion about the color science if you compare BMDPCC4K and GH5s and what's you opinion about these two cameras? Which one is a better camera?
That was Amazing!! Thank you so much! This seems like such an intense topic to have to go thru but your presentation was A++++ As someone probably below an amateur when it comes to cameras (I mean I only found out what a micro four thirds camera was a few days ago - yes I know, where on earth have I been living), I was still able to follow your explanations and descriptions easily (along with your other videos of which i've basically binge-watched ^^;)
Great video but would love to see the DOF review with the GH5S plus Speedbooster and a crop without. I would love a GH5S but I love the shallow depth of field on the C100. Oh the struggle!!
Good points. It's a bit like the difference between Fuji film stock and Kodak. Kodak was always a trifle red and Fuji green. I'm not sure how significant the difference is; grading will improve GH5 flesh tones. Whether it achieves the same end result is debatable. The crop differences were genuinely astounding, though!
Great video. When my GH5S arrives tomorrow (😀) ... my 8-18mm will be wider than on my GH5. What will the crop factor be? 8mm X 1.85? Slightly wider than a full frame 16mm equivalent.
what was the picture profile on canon and a6500? Damn, the canon footage looks so much better (at least in terms of colours).. :/ great, interesting comparision and test. thanks man
Did you put the same focal length of lens on the speedbooster for GH5s as on the APS-C camera (w/o speedbooster)? i.e. did you put, for example, a EF 35mm with the speedbooster on GH5s and then use a full-frame 35mm on the APS-C sensor of the a6500 (w/o speedbooster)? Did you have to move the camera position to achieve the similarity of field of view or apparent focal length perspective between that particular test? Or does anyone know? Thank you for doing these test shots.
Does the VILTROX EF-M2 Focal Reducer Booster Adapter Auto-focus 0.71x fit the sigma 50-100mm lens? I'de rather not buy Metabones If I don't need to. Thank you so much, love your channel by the way.
Quick question: Since the GH5 allow to adjust WB with the yellow, blue green and red, why not just pushing the GH5 wb a bit towards blue and red to place the skin tones where you want them to be?
Great Video man. Yeah the crop reduction is a great addition. I have the XL speed booster version (.64x you were referring to) and if my math is correct, the Crop on the GH5s is now a 1.15x crop. It would be interesting to see the a6500 with it's speedbooster compared to the XL version on the GH5s to see which one comes closer to the full frame look. I said it in my video review of the GH5s. This camera is a game changer for Micro 4/3rds and I believe will really reshape alot of peoples prejudices regarding micro 4/3rds system. Also with the low light capability, it makes lenses like the Olympus 12-100mm f4, which I wouldn't consider before on previous M43 cameras, now as a serious versatile option for event work. I also noticed the color science difference. It's very similar to canon's color science. I'm holding no regrets on my GH5s purchase.
just bought a gh5s with speedbooster. thank you for the great video
Really nice comparison, Caleb. I noticed the color differences in the GH5S skin tones as well. Nice improvement! No more jaundice!
Not gunna lie, until I started seeing the sensor quirks like this, I was 100% sold on "I need a GH5 but have no need for GH5s." But now I really want GH5s and I don't even know anymore.
GH5 is a hybrid. Which is better for me. If you’re doing video mostly, the GH5S is probably better. As a hobbyist this is splitting hairs but VERY interesting as a nerdist.
I would ask yourself this. How often do you go handheld? If the answer is under 50% of the time, I'd get the GH5s.
Under 50% now b/c of the lack of IS in my G7, I usually wind up grabbing my phone for handheld. Hrmmmmmmmmmmmm
I'd get the gh5s with a lens with IS
I have both the GH5 and GH5s. When I bought the GH5, I bought it as a bundle with the Panasonic Leica 12mm-35mm f2.8 lens. The IBS lens on the GH5s makes a big difference.
This is insane. I wrote off the GH5s but the results are very interesting. Thanks for this test
I'm a newbie so I may be confused about this. SInce you know the GH5 color is a little off, can't you do a custom LUT and color correct in post really quickly?
Theorically, yes, you can create your own LUT file to match GH5 with to GH5s.
Having watched both of your videos on the GH5s I'm now completely sold on it, thank you so much for taking the time out to explain it all to us properly .
I still haven't gotten over your intro and the music. So good.
Excellent comparison! This is the first time I've seen someone do an overlapping comparison and then an expanded view like this.
The more I look at the GH5S, the more it looks like my next camera, as an upgrade from the GH4.
Great video, Caleb. Just FYI...Your links are mislabeled in the description. You have to sets that are both called Panasonic GH5s even though one is linked to the GH5.
Thanks for the great work you do.
Thanks for all the hard working comparing these two cams. Always a huge time saver for other shooters that want the best quality and don't have the time/knowledge to break down the sensors.
2 years later and still great info, thanks
I've been following your channel since the beginning of Fall 2017 and I LOVE how much detail you put into your videos when it comes to comparisons/technical details that are not just useful, but RELEVANT to anyone who's in/trying to get into film-making!
Thank you for the very kind words Baila! So glad you're digging the content!
Just "Subscribed" to your channel. Awesome work Caleb... A lot of work you put in and is appreciated... I would LOVE to see this same comparison between the GH5s and the new Sony A7iii. I'm torn between the GH5s and the A7iii. (I would use neither for photos, only video on a Ronin relying heavily on auto focus)
Here are a few comparisons that I would love to see between the GH5s and the A7iii that I think would help a lot of us:
1. A side-by-side "autofocus" test between the GH5s (with the latest firmware and the 179 shutter hack) and the Sony A7iii.
2. The GH5s 10-bit 422 (highest bit rate) vs the A7iii 8-bit both 1080 and 4K (for dynamic range, banding, etc)
3. External out analysis from both cameras to an Atomos / Odyssey 7Q+ highest bit rate / color profile possible.
Keep up the great work!
Canon's footage apparently is way too soft, but that color is really nice wow. I'm impressed!
This is the only place I can find any info this in depth. Love it
This is so interesting! Thanks for taking the time to try and sort this all out.
Ultimately though, I think this just confirmed for me personally that full frame is the way to go. I can’t get enough of it!
I hear ya!
This makes me incredibly excited! I have my brand new GH5s on the way and knowing how accurate your videos are compared to a lot of the watered down opinion pieces that have been popping up, its great to see the raw data that takes all the questions out of it. THANK YOU!
If you can lead me the footage of that color charts of both cameras, I will love to make a lut for matching Gh5 to GH5s. ;)
One question, I have GH5 with a speedbooster 0.71x and want to record in 6k Open Gate, shoud I buy Super35mm EF Lenses or Full Frame EF Lenses?? I'm trying to avoid any kind of vignetting. I was looking the Meike cine lens for full frame or super 35mm version. Thanks
Oh, my goodness. I geeked out so much on this one. I've really enjoyed my GH5S with Speedbooster. Totally the best at home video rig out there. I do miss the stabilization, but that's only when I go wandering outside of my room to film (which is super rare). I have found that my colors have looked great on the GH5s as well. I haven't had any sort of comments of the green look since I switched over.
Once again, another fantastic video. I appreciate your work, friend!
I think this is an awesome video. I'm just starting videography and your channel is trustworthy. Please keep up the good work!
Thanks Kim! Glad you're enjoying the videos!
and what now in 2024.. shall we let it go? is the G9 ll the right choice? or is the lower price of the GH5S the best still, or shall we wait for the new GH7... how to think for this year ahead?
thanks!
Hey Caleb, great video! Maybe I missed this but did you list which lenses and focal lengths you used for each shot? I’m guessing you used the same lens for all of the metabones shots and then the same lens for the micro 4/3 shots?
I am looking into getting a gh5s. So i am checking this out a bit late.
Maybe this has already been commented on.....
The gh5s actually has a physically larger sensor.
17.3mm is the horizontal length of a normal 4/3 sensor.
18mm is the horizontal length othe gh5s sensor.
Again, maybe this was already addressed, the video is however misinforming.
You hit angles a lot of other channels don't. Great work man!
Ordered 5s last week, had viewed some comparisons, no hesitation at all. The improvements are very tempting.
That audio quality is godly.
Yeah dude, Caleb's the best.
Haha! Thanks. Helps when you can get right up on the microphone!
DSLR Video Shooter which one is this video using btw?
Which microphone are you using in this video?
is it also due to your treated room?
i cant get over how good the g7 for your on camera bits looks. it just looks so crisp.
All I want to know is .... which one is better?? ;)
Amazingly comprehensive study again Caleb, mucho compliments. The frame variances were pretty incredible and the GH5s + speedbooster seems to be the winner for me. Noticed a gradual increasing redness on your skin tones for the overall shot of frame comparions. Were you just so tired and angry at that stage or what it done intentionally?
Big props to your single mother-wife for taking care of those two kids all the time! ;)
Great comparison, Caleb! The GH5s suddenly became more interesting as a new camera choice. Thank you for the insights!!
Thanks Groove! The more I use this camera the more I appreciate 10bit 422 4K. So much easier to work with!
That’s crazy.
Yes it is!
DSLR Video Shooter I didn’t have my gh5 to test it next to the gh5s so I never really noticed it having a larger field of view. But it only makes sense with the multi aspect sensor. This video proves it.
Please do this review: Low light test....GH5s (No speedbooster) vs GH5 w/ Speedbooster) or just tell me....does the GH5 with a speed booster hold its own against the GH5s?
Awesome video! I’ve always wondered about adapting full frame glass to the gh5s! It would be awesome to see the GH5s used with the 0.64 speed booster. I wonder how close to full frame you could get it?
This is EXACTLY the sensor size test I was looking for! GH5s with speed booster compared to super 35, APS-C, and full frame! Thank You!
Thanks for the video it’s great and I love the new intro👍 what would you say the best picture profile is for great skin tones on the gh5s? Using 4K 60 8bit for weddings
Excellent video Caleb! I'd love to see from you how gh5s performs color grade versus sony a7III , have you think on doing a review about that? it would be great!
Wow! I've been waiting for this for a little while now. Great video! Definitely worth the wait. And man I've been loving your stuff Caleb. Just got a G85, (and your Guide) to hold me down until I move on to the GH5s, and your channel has been my go to for those cameras, and pretty much anything else for over a year now, especially lighting.
Thank you Nick! Sorry this one took so dang long! Glad you're enjoying the videos and guides :-)
Hey Caleb, if the pictures of the field of view comparison at 5:00 are correct than the Sony a6500 (4th place) and GH5 with Speedbooster (5th place) must change places.
I checked your pictures and even zoomed in on a screenshot. There is definetly a wider field of view on the GH5 with speedbooster picture. Compare the 4 squares on the grey card and you can see it. Still a very good informative video!
Such a good video! Thanks for shooting all these color comparisons breaking it all down!!
Nice intro soundtrack... what did you use Caleb?
Awesome video man! I was dead set on purchasing the GH5 for some time, but I thought I noticed those slight color differences that you proved. The GH5S really does look better. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison of the color science and tests between the A7III when that's released and the GH5S. I'm more comfortable using Panasonic and I've heard grading S Log footage from Sony can be a headache, so I'm curious if it's gotten any better and worth the switch.
This is an excellent comparison - thanks for all your work on this. You mentioned 10-bit 4:2:2 -- do you know of any software that will allow you to view and trim 10-bit 4:2:2 without rendering? I'm using MPEG Streamclip for that purpose on 8-bit, but it won't play 10-bit, and I'd love to take advantage of 10-bit, but having to render just to trim is too much overhead. Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Great stuff!!! Any change in background blur when using the SpeedBooster on GH5 vs GH5s?
Will you be adding GH5S specific content to your GH5 video guide which you have ? I really want to know this ?
OR will there be a separate guide for GH5S ?
Hey Caleb great video! How wanna know if the autofocus work on both cameras.. Please let me know!
We should call it Super 43.
Omg, reading this comment in 2024, this is hilarious! 😂 I literally laughed for like 5 minutes lol
@@michealpersaud6718 hehe!
AWESOME video and comparisons! Thank you so much for the info on the cameras. How long have these two been out?
Thank you, I am amazed and this has changed me from wanting a GH5S to needing one.
Super great presentation. I just got my GH5s and my own experience comports with your analysis. Small changes but a big improvement in skin tones.
Great video. Totally clear, totally relevant, great graphics, audio + tests. Thanks - you've helped me a ton make a decision about cameras.
So subtle, yet so important to have the skin tones in the right hue
Wish I could give this video two thumbs! Showing the pic in pic with the speedboosters and different sensor sizes was BAD A... well it was extremely helpful! And the field of view comparison is excellent making you a genius! Thanks, Praying for you! I hope God blesses you for helping so many others.
Calib, great video, this must of taken a while to produce. Appreciate your work!
Just purchased a GH5s Can't wait to test it out
Great production value and I love that you took the time to do all these tests :) I’m leaning towards the GH5S, but not only do I have to compare it with the GH5, I have to consider the Black Magic Pocket 4k as well :p
Hey Caleb what are your thoughts on anamorphic shooting mode? Which camera has better options? What do you think about new black magic pocket 4k? Will it support anamorphic mode as GH5s?
Could you please tell the exact crop factor numbers in UHD between GH4, GH5 and GH5s?
Excellent job and excellent results Caleb, thanks for the time you've put into this.
I enjoyed this video! Will you be at NAB this year?
A very big thank you from Germany! This Video was so informativ :)
Hey dude. Awesome videos on the GH5 & GH5s. I’m looking for a camera for music videos, live music, product and travel videos. Would you go with GH5, GH5s or the new Sony A7iii?
Oh, I use the Zhiyun Crane Plus Gimble so not so worried about stabilisation
Does the GH5s improve the autofocus of the GH5, as discussed in your other video?
A great video about the comparisons. I am especially encouraged (if not downright shocked, to see how much difference the speed boosters make in the field of view, which again, affects crop. My question is do you see any difference in the sharpness of the image with or without the speedbooster? You asked about lighting in the other video. In this one, I would put a light in front of your face to light the area from the top of your eyes to the hat, which is very dark.
There is difference in sharpness but its not critical. Lumix m4/3 senors are so sharp - you really need to reduce that sharpness in post...
Skin tones are better on GH5 to my eye - more natural and pleasing to the eye. GH5s looks unnaturally red - like a sunburn. Great video.
How would you best match the colors on
these 2 cameras? Tweak the colors in camera?
Great video! Subtle but noticeable skin tone differences. Any chance we can download the side by side GH5 GH5s colour tests clips. Would like to see if a simple preset could be made in FCPX to bring the GH5 colours inline to the GH5s. They aren’t fair off so would think this is possible.
Would love to see a color and dynamic range comparison between the GH5S and the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera.
Given the BMD hasn't given any indication of updating the BMPCC, it's possible that one might "graduate" to the GH5S if the "color science" and the dynamic range are close.
Although there's been Pocket vs GH5 comparisons that's not really competitive. No one has done a BMPCC to GH5S comparison so you'd be the first.
In terms of the actual performance of the sensor and the colours the BMPCC is just better, if you can deal with the lower resolution and short battery life. It really is meant to be a pocket cinema camera, unlike the GH5 which needs to still be good at stills and also have more versatility WITHOUT a bunch of accessories.
Keep in mind the GH5S is a very different beast than the GH5. As per Caleb's presentation the GH5S seems to be a cinema camera. Given the low pixel count it's not really focused on stills and the lack of IBIS most certainly means it needs accessories for stability.
Wouldn't the GH5 with the speedbooster be larger than the a6500?
Having that extra fov would be a well worth the upgrade I would think. The color is off a bit, but it seems like it would be easy to match the cameras right? Using the vectorscope and the color checker to color match.
soo good! I was waiting for someone to make this test! I would love to see .64 speedbooster in action tho'
Very interesting. Thanks Caleb for all your hard work in testing here! As a creator myself i know how much work goes into it!
My thoughts... I have a feeling this is simply due to the change in sensor technology or calibration of the LUTs to the new sensor. It could be possible for Panasonic to release a firmware update to fix this in a future release. I would welcome a skin tone adjustment in firmware on the GH5 - Especially for VLOG-L as this would help in post more!
It is interesting to note that the GH5 with a speedbooster produces a higher pixel resolution image in comparison to the GH5s and is more inline with Super 35 equivalency when shooting Film due to the GH5 downscaling of the sensor! The GH5s doesn't do this because it doesn't have the extra Megapixels to downscale with but it does have larger pixels which take in more light and produce less noise effects much more like a Fullframe camera so its getting those benefits (ie LOW LIGHT performance is better).
For all those contemplating the purchase... Here are my reasons for choosing the GH5 over the GH5s:
1. Lower price
2. In body image stabilization and onsensor stabilization (+Anamorphic IBIS!)
3. Anamorphic and open gate shooting modes - I use anamorphic from time to time.
4. Higher resolution image over the GH5s in good lighting due to downscaling internally on the GH5
5. Slow motion footage is fantastic at 4K48, 4K60, 1080p120 (180 max but doesn't look that great)
6. I also Shoot photography and need some of those features.
Buy the GH5s If you need:
1. Low light performance
2. Higher frame rates than GH5 - 1080p240 (versus a max of 180fps in GH5)
3 shooting fast moving or vibration sensitive shots where the IBIS is inhibiting.
4. Need slightly wider angles on your Fullframe adpated lenses, i can definintely see an advantage here for things like interior shots!
But personally if you are going to spend that much more or already have a GH5, save up and wait for the Sony A7S3 when its released if you need a Fullframe Low light camera (unless you want to stay in panasonic ecosystem entirely). I always recommend using the right tool for the job.
Hope that helps!
Great video! I’d love to see this comparison after you apply the Lemmings LUT One which totally fix skin tones perfectly and or step back a step to get more information in the background.
The GH5 is so sharp you can literally move 10 feet back without any loss in quality.
the colour different dude to hardware or is it something that can be corrected by firmware? awesome explanation graphics btw!
You provided a very good test, so I subscribed to you! :)
Hey Caleb, have you tried using the Sigma 18-35 and Speedbooster x.71 on the GH5S? Does it vignette at the 18mm range?
Would you say the GH5s is still worth buying at the end of 2019?
man it was def. worth when it was released, so why shouldn't it be worth for 2020? It depends on what you want to work out. It's a beast of a camera mate.
@@by.purefilms I guess the question would be if an update came in 2020 which it might not.
The black magic pocket 4k is 600€ less where im from, so i would have an eye on that one too if you are still deciding
Would you choose the panasonic s1 or the gh5s for only video?
What a crazy good video! So much love for your input on this. Learned A LOT!
Thank you Peter!!!
Hi!
What's you opinion about the color science if you compare BMDPCC4K and GH5s and what's you opinion about these two cameras? Which one is a better camera?
Try the Speedbooster XL on the GH5s. Should give a much larger field of view than APS-C; more like a 1.1 or 1.2 crop factor.
That was Amazing!! Thank you so much! This seems like such an intense topic to have to go thru but your presentation was A++++ As someone probably below an amateur when it comes to cameras (I mean I only found out what a micro four thirds camera was a few days ago - yes I know, where on earth have I been living), I was still able to follow your explanations and descriptions easily (along with your other videos of which i've basically binge-watched ^^;)
Hi considering that it has a larger sensor, does it have a better shallow depth of field than gh5?
I would be interested in a comparison between natural, hlg and vlog on the gh5s and which one of those would give you the best skin tones...
Great video but would love to see the DOF review with the GH5S plus Speedbooster and a crop without. I would love a GH5S but I love the shallow depth of field on the C100. Oh the struggle!!
I love the light setup at the beggining!
Good points. It's a bit like the difference between Fuji film stock and Kodak. Kodak was always a trifle red and Fuji green. I'm not sure how significant the difference is; grading will improve GH5 flesh tones. Whether it achieves the same end result is debatable. The crop differences were genuinely astounding, though!
Hi !! Try to disable the I.S. Lock ....Stabilizer option !
Great video. When my GH5S arrives tomorrow (😀) ... my 8-18mm will be wider than on my GH5. What will the crop factor be? 8mm X 1.85? Slightly wider than a full frame 16mm equivalent.
Yeah it would also shake much better than on your GH5.
what was the picture profile on canon and a6500? Damn, the canon footage looks so much better (at least in terms of colours).. :/
great, interesting comparision and test. thanks man
Did you put the same focal length of lens on the speedbooster for GH5s as on the APS-C camera (w/o speedbooster)? i.e. did you put, for example, a EF 35mm with the speedbooster on GH5s and then use a full-frame 35mm on the APS-C sensor of the a6500 (w/o speedbooster)? Did you have to move the camera position to achieve the similarity of field of view or apparent focal length perspective between that particular test? Or does anyone know? Thank you for doing these test shots.
Does the VILTROX EF-M2 Focal Reducer Booster Adapter Auto-focus 0.71x fit the sigma 50-100mm lens? I'de rather not buy Metabones If I don't need to. Thank you so much, love your channel by the way.
I literally just subscribed based on your audio and that bad ass opening. Was this shot on a gh5s?
Your main narrative i mean. Or is that a 1DX?
Wait.. that's a G7 you're filming with!? was not expecting that.
Very interesting and informative stuff. Well explained as always ✌🏽 Thanks 🙂
Yo Caleb, thank you very much for that! One question, the more magentaish thing on the GH5 can be adjusted on the WB can it not? Thanks man!
Quick question: Since the GH5 allow to adjust WB with the yellow, blue green and red, why not just pushing the GH5 wb a bit towards blue and red to place the skin tones where you want them to be?
Great Video man. Yeah the crop reduction is a great addition. I have the XL speed booster version (.64x you were referring to) and if my math is correct, the Crop on the GH5s is now a 1.15x crop. It would be interesting to see the a6500 with it's speedbooster compared to the XL version on the GH5s to see which one comes closer to the full frame look.
I said it in my video review of the GH5s. This camera is a game changer for Micro 4/3rds and I believe will really reshape alot of peoples prejudices regarding micro 4/3rds system. Also with the low light capability, it makes lenses like the Olympus 12-100mm f4, which I wouldn't consider before on previous M43 cameras, now as a serious versatile option for event work.
I also noticed the color science difference. It's very similar to canon's color science. I'm holding no regrets on my GH5s purchase.
I heard that Panasonic has optimized the sensor aspect ratio for video and therefore made it larger to let the frame use more on the horizontal space
This is the only review that's worth watching. Thank you for this!!
Great tests! So awesome! Thanks, Caleb!
What about the crop of the GH5s with a speedbooster when shooting in 1080p. How close does that come to APS-C and full frame?
Could you retest the color differences between the GH5 and GH5s with the new 2.3 firmware? Just wondering if they matched the color science now.