I won’t do keto without cream and full fat cheese. It’s what makes the diet work for me in terms of satisfaction. I’d rather lose weight slowly and be happy all day every day. I’m healthy eating this way.
Counting calories and keeping a keto diet lowered my triglycerides, raised my HDL and LDL. Lost 10 lbs. I started out at 142 and got down to 132. Thank you Dr. Westman. 74 years old here. And enjoy dairy in moderation as well as everything else except breads, rice, potatoes, fruit and pasta.
Glad for you. However, dairy causes me many issues, including the inability to lose body fat. When i quit dairy, waist inches started dropping. 47 inches down to 39 inches
I need dairy, my body craves it. I probaby eat about an ounce of cheese each day, but I'm also on OMAD so everything is consumed in one meal. I'm losing about one pound per week which is fine.
If a diet is too restrictive, people won't stick to it. Removing all appreciable carbs is quite difficult but manageable. It is made infinitely more doable by increasing your intake of high fat satiating foods - such as cheese. If you try and remove dairy to, I think the diet becomes too hard to do...... unless you have specific reasons not to eat dairy.
maybe you need a bridge like cheese in the beginning but eventually that should go away. I started out eating lots of steak that was so tasty there was no need for anything else. I do have cravings and indulge in some things like cheese but it gets better and better as time goes by. I think it is worse to be hard on yourself and hold yourself to a standard that you know will end in failure. I am still addicted to coffee, though I have switched to decaf. But I think I have achieved so much. Rome was not built overnight.
Wow, no wonder I only lose .2 lbs every other day. I drink a lot of coffee with heavy cream and I snack on cheese. Time to adjust my eating habits. Thank you Dr.
dairy helped to adapt my palate away from sugary carbs towards protein-heavy meals... it's also very affordable and requires no cooking... i dont know how many times I was saved from relapsing with carbs by just cutting a thick slice of cheddar cheese that would fill me up pretty well ... I don't eat it as much now because I like keeping my pantry simple, but I'm not scared of it either
About two years ago I started KETO when I realized it was with no grains as I’m allergic to gluten & dairy. If I use just a little butter I’m fine so I fry foods in bacon grease. Down to 139 lbs. Feel much better.
I have a casein intolerance. Every time I stop dairy, I'll think well I can have butter and cream because they are so low in casein. Then I consume those 2 dairy things and my craving for cheese triggers and I end up eating cheese again. I have to stay off all dairy (sad face)
@@dianasthings729 Ghee is clarified butter so any residual casein and lactose is removed. It's a good replacement in cooking. Can't tell you whether it alone would cause cravings for cheese.
I finally got it, averaging 2.5 lbs a week on keto now, no nuts,no fake keto sweets,very little cheese,little or no mayo,limited butter,limited olive and avocado oil, good amounts ground beef,pork,eggs,95% carnivore till hit goal weight????
I drink my morning coffee(s) black, but if I am trying to push not eating a bit longer, or if I am gonna be at work for a long shift(I never eat at work), I use cream in my coffee to help get me through until I eat .
I grew up on a Vermont dairy farm with raw organic milk straight from the barn until i left home. I still get raw milk, yogurt and cream from a local farm in NH now. And lactose intolerant friends have no issues with the raw dairy. Plus delicious
I think the information you share here is so interesting. I don’t know the science behind pasteurization, but do you know what part of the process or what the change is that occurs in pasteurization that may render it “irritating” to our system? Thank you.
Fermented dairy has much less carbs. I make milk kefir with Half n Half. It can be made into milk kefir cheese too. Giving up dairy ... cream, HnH, sour cream, cream cheese, cheese, butter, ghee, etc., would make KetoVore undoable for me.
I just eliminated dairy for 2 weeks and after day 3 I felt a significant decrease in joint pain. I also saw the scale move. On Saturday, I reintroduced dairy and scale went up 2.5 lbs and had sweet cravings.
I first cut out cheese because cheese kept making me hungry, and i did not want to see the reality. I still kept having butter (but no more HWC). I often made brown butter bites and eate them with carnivore meals. Only when my pants no longer fitted did I wake up to the reality that the milk sugar in milk made me gain weight (and not little!!!). Since I cut out butter and mainly use lard and ghee (home-made) my pants are on the way to fitting again.
I respect Dr. Berry, but recently heard he is totally anti- dairy. I have been eating cheese and heavy cream. So, confused yet again by the internet, but Dr. Westman is still my favorite go to!
He doesn't have any issues with the steaks! Dr. Berry is one of those guys that I'd like to follow around for a while and see what he really eats. I don't trust him.
I don't crave nuts however but cheese is something I can over indulge on but it is much better than indulging on sugars and the wrong carbs/carb snacks etc.
Actually, I agree about cream cheese and cream. They make me hungry, so I have them occasionally. But eating fat that is on meat does not stall me. Bacon and steak are my friends. I never drink any milk. It is for babies and small toddlers.
I was using whole milk, One cup =12 grams carb. Then I found "Fairlife" whole milk, lactose free, double filtered, one cup =6 grams of carb...I keep the milk for coffee, One cup of milk a day. I think this is ok for now. I am only 4 months into Keto, have lost 25 pounds now, got my A1C down to 6.5, taking it a little slow, but looking at trying to drink the coffee black...
Thank you so much. Appreciate your videos so much. I have learned so much and just started my weight loss journey on Feb 7th of this year. Before coming across your videos I was following every Keto video I came across and wrote down every recipe I could. Trying to figure out what was best for me and just trying to absorb everything. Consuming omgosh all of my spare time and many spiral notebooks of notes. I did invest in coconut and almond flour, nuts and nut butters a few things!! But made a full list of things I needed to buy. Hundreds of dollars of foods and tools. Feeling guilty really to spend so much money in that way on my self. I feel so foolish now and time wasted. But thank goodness before spending alot of money. "Or should I say throw it away." I feel like I am on the right track now. And have you to thank. I will be following you and let you know in November how my journey turned out. Thanks again.
Janet there is so much info out there on keto that is confusing. I too have done a ton of research and attempted keto a few times before but couldn’t sustain it due to tracking macros, and eating so much extra fats etc. So finding Dr Westman’s approach I am relieved! His easy pg 4 instructions are really refreshing and I am giving it a go. I just started this week and already feel some progress. Wishing you all the best.
Cream cheese is something I can barely do without: cream cheese and egg pancakes are great! I’ve gotten tired of using coconut oil for frying, so now it’s ghee instead. I’m almost entirely Eastern European in ancestry, so any residual lactose isn’t a problem.
String cheese and mild cheddar might be why my weight loss has slowed down. Might try pure Carnivore for a while just to see what happens and keep cheese out of it. Trouble is, I actually like some veggies and salad. It’s harder for me to give them up than it was to quit sugar and junk food!
When I eat cream, Brie and butter I can’t stop lol. Especially whipped cream with raspberries. I’ve noticed when I don’t calorie count and don’t restrict those foods a bit my weight loss stalls.
The truth is that raw dairy is better for you than pasteurized. Unfortunately, it isn’t legal in every state so most of the country is forced to settle for second rate product. But if you can only get pasteurized milk products, I would still recommend that you keep them full fat and sugar free. Also watch out for some brands of shredded cheese that put things like potato starch in it. It always helps to read the ingredients list.
Not true. If youre allergic to milk protein (casein) then it doesn't matter which pink unicorn of purity made it. It will still take you down. You're spreading dangerous misinformation about something you know nothing about.
I equate dairy into the fat category, as most the dairy I buy is full fat. Therefore I eat it in moderation. I don't add extra oils or butters just for the sake of adding fat. I add dairy just for flavor. I'll use a little butter to cook my eggs, add a couple Tbsp of cream in my coffee or sprinkle a light amount of cheese over my dish. Sometimes a small dollop of sour cream here and there. This is what I love about Keto. Never could I do this on a low calorie diet and still lose weight.
6’3 200lbs., lean and athletic. On high protein/ animal fat and low carb intake because I had lab work done and my triglycerides were high. Been adhering to this way of eating for a month now and I feel great. I do consume non pasteurized cheese and milk however, once a day. It helps with satiety. Eat twice a day typically. I do realize that most people start this journey overweight, so I understand how limiting dairy is sound advice, but I don’t have a lot of fat to spare so I am trying to maintain muscle mass and energy levels.
I have hashimotos and understand the no dairy consumption, the smallest amount will cause a flare up on my scalp, itchy. I really enjoyed watching Dr Westman and believe he's very helpful with explaining the lactose sugar in milk.
I tried bullet proof coffee and just didn't like the consistency. My recommendation is to find a good blend that you find satisfying and just drink it black.
@@MysterySemicolon In our houses, we're not about to consume ANYTHING with a tacky-sounding name. We're not going to have "Bulletproof Coffee", or "Fat Bombs", any more than we're going to have "Dump Cakes", "a cuppa java", "PBJs", or "Mac-&-Cheese".
I drink a glass of homogenized milk quite a bit, but it is too carb heavy to drink all the time. Mostly I just use it as a craving solution. It's not super high in carbs, but as a mainly carnivore it is pretty much the only carbs I get.
Fortunately zero problems with diary for me, except problem with constipation but even that only with hard cheeses. Tried to eliminate diary to see if some benefits, have after a month found none. Eating mostly buffala or burattina, some hard cheeses. Butter is my main addition to foods.
I know the feeling. I could eat several blocks of mild cheese every week if it wasn't so expensive! Maybe cost is my "moderation" process! I don't have weight issues however but it can cause constipation in high doses to many.
what are your thoughts on whole milk full fat plain greek yogurt? I eat Fage, which has a total of 5 grams of carbs, no added sugar and 13 grams of protein. Should I be avoiding it?
Plain yoghurt is good for gut health. I intend to keep eating it regardless of the reply as it fits into my daily carb allowance and has calcium and potassium which I need to consume.
Good tips as usual. Good to note if you are trying to lose weight or not the health benefits alone of keto are a key consideration. Sometimes all the emphasis and decisions are based on what’s the best to lose weight. I feel if you learn a keto diet first then adjust to lose such as reducing cheese is a good approach.
You do get that Dr. Weston's practice is aimed at helping the obese and diabetic, hence his natural inclination to teach keto from a weight loss perspective. There are many other keto channels with a focus on sports performance, etc..
Grew up with family milk cows, raw milk, kitchen cheeses and ferments were staples. Then family moved and dairy was a luxury. Powdered milk and margarine were the staples. I don't have sensitivities to dairy, I really enjoy it. I DO have prefernces though. For example, I just love the Jersey cow products. I believe I can tell and feel the difference. Also, im particular to the well cared for and loved cows products found with a good dairy farmer. I am grateful to the factory that can provide good nutrition for many. Most follow the laws of good animal management now. I've gotten to see for myself.
I stopped eating dairy for months and stared again. I have already lost down to 118 lbs but reintroducing it caused so much joint pain it was horrible. I think every joint in my body joints that never hurt before hurt. It certainly is not worth that much pain.
wondering how not eating dairy would give you joint pain? I got joint pain from grains, wheat and very bad from rice because its full of arsenic. The other grains are full of roundup. When I stopped eating grains, my joints are so much more fluid and my arthritis in my knee went away.
Yeah, I have the same issue. I have to measure out my daughter's milk to ensure there's enough for her or else I'll down it all 😢 Milk is an addictive substance.
I may or may not have eaten to much Cheese this Christmas. In my defence, there's way to much Fromage choices at that time of year. Lol. 🙄🧀 Thanks for sharing this important dairy information. Take care everybody. ❤️🙂🐶
Dairy is inflammatory for me and knocks me out of ketosis. I can eat a small amount of feta cheese and grassfed butter. Overall I have to not over do it with fat or I won't lose weight.
I've lost over 50lbs 4yrs ago um I cut the fat and gained back some weight so I upped my fat and Im losing again.So its ok to keep consuming high fat at maintenance? I keep my carbs 20 or less.
HIGH fat carnivore here (2yrs now) High Fat keto prior (5yrs) I also lost 50lbs.......and never returned HIGH fat......is great if no low carbs and sugars Body.....goes Fat Adaptive Energy......ONLY comes from bodies fat, calories you eat!! Last night/evening after ?? 18hrs of nothing (black coffee) ......i finished day before meal of Eggs over easy, rib eye and beacon I reheated added 3 more eggs topped with sour cream and cheddar cheese
I lost 50 lbs in 5 months. High fat, cheese, cream, butter, 20 carbs or less, intermittent fasting, OMAD. No cravings, no more joint pain, no gas, more energy, better sleep. Basically, feel 20 years younger at 66.
Dr. Westman, I’ve learned useful info from your videos. I wonder what you think of Skyr, Icelandic yogurt, which is lactose-free, low-carb, and high in protein. Is it okay to eat a 150g serving of this everyday while keeping daily total carbs under 20-30 grams?
This is why calorie counting whilst on keto is a good idea if trying to lose weight, you know exactly how much you can have so it doesn't need to be excluded.
Milk has been a major staple in my diet tthroughout my life, as I was born and raised on a dairy farm in Michigan. I went through serious trouble gettig my mind to drop the dairy addiction, but w/ a little perseverance, I have manged to stay away from my beloved milk. It still calls to me, every time I go to the grocery store, but I no longer pass by the dairy section and that helps. My journey into the Keto diet has just begun and I'm curious where it will take me, nutritionally.
anybody watch Dr. Sanjay Gupta Sunday Morning on CBS? Interesting. I did not know he was a brain surgeon. He had some interesting things to say about Alzheimer's, especially foods.
I eat cheese, cream cheese, sour cream, heavy whipping cream, butter. I use the Cronometer app for a rigorous ketogenic diet. Fat is so important because it helps with satiety,
OMG... I also thought we had to consume a lot of FAT!😳 some doctors say to eat a lot of fat instead of carbs because insulin is pulled from fat or something like that. 🤔
But why does skim milk help prevent and treat gout flares? I’ve seen this work for me more than a few times. Perhaps as just a medicine is fine when needed.
I don’t get limiting cream. It’s all fat. No lactose. Very dense and a higj energy content. Ising it in a meal would be very satiating. Using heavy cream in the carnivore/keto diet would be a great source of animal fat which is what we want in the HFLC diet. Same with butter. Scratching head here
Dairy absolutely does not work for me. So many keto recipes use diary. Even sheep and goat dairy don't work for me. There is a relationship of my consumption of diary and sores that appear on my face...only on my face. :(
I have that problem too, even though I've ditched the (plain) yogurt and also cream in my coffee. I'm now limiting full milk in my coffee to 50mls., about 1 tablespoon but the problem whilst reduced, still persists. Maybe I need to follow your lead and drop the dairy completely. Thanks for your insight.
I do the macros math and find it impossible to get enough fat (>70%) to be Ketogenic. Even Ribeye is only 60% fat. I add butter for the fat macros. Is this wrong?
my wife doesnt like meat,…shes forcing herself slowly to eat some, she cut sugars and carbs and dairy messes up her stomach…she doesnt want to lose weight, just eat healthier, any suggestions of food to keep her weight?THANKS
Hello, So, I am trying to lose weight with Keto and thought that eating until your full sounded great. Then, there is too much fat? So what is the limit on fat? I am on a facebook group for Keto and they mention using an app to work out macros and the fat limit is highest, over 100 grams of fat. So now I am to limit those? Also, what are the foods with fats already in them? I am thinking bacon, but bacon can have a lot of fat.
@@franbrough129 I don't speak from experience here, but from what I understand a lot of people have different experiences with goat milk products than cow milk products. One of the main differences is supposedly the types of proteins. Those in goats milk is less likely to cause an undesirable reaction than cows milk.
@Craig Slitzer. If people had a source of raw A2/A2 cow milk they would most likely have no issues with allergies, etc. I know people personally that have severe milk allergy, not just a lactose intolerance, and when they drink raw A/2 milk they have no issues. They don’t even need to take medication to tolerate the milk. The problem is that most dairy cows in this country are Holsteins and the majority of Holsteins produce A1 milk, which is why so many people cannot tolerate it. Now the Guernsey and Jersey breeds of dairy cattle are mostly A2’s but they are vastly outnumbered in the big dairies that produce the fluid milk for consumption in this country. If all people had access to the A2 protein milk AND raw milk, we would not be seeing issues with milk intolerance. People with just a lactose intolerance usually can drink raw milk and have no problem with intolerance. Pasteurization is what messes up the lactase in the milk. Raw milk has received a bad rap for decades and it is ridiculous! It has been all our family has drank for 25 years as we have our own family cows, which are also A2 milk producers. We have nephews which experienced issues with store bought milk but when they came to our farm and drank our milk they had no problems whatsoever.
@@kellyschroer2114 Thanks for this information about A2 milk. I had no idea about Guernsey or Jersey cows being A2. Thing is, is A2 milk sold anywhere other than farms? Sadly, where I live, there are no sources of this milk or raw milk so I'm taking my chances with cheese and hoping for the best (I don't feel bad with cheese as long as I don't go over the top with the consumption rations :D ), cheese from Marks and Spencers (I have a weakness for mild cheese). Now, I did try raw milk years ago but there were caveats. A), although I experienced an initial euphoric feeling from the initial drink, I had major stomach cramps and some intolerance from the dairy unfortunately. Plus, the one I bought if from only sold it in huge quantities and within under 48hours the milk soured - even in the freezer as I tried to turn it into natural ice cream. I was intolerant to it so it was probably still A1 milk. If I know for sure that A2 milk is sold in some stores, I will look into it and try it out just to see if I can handle the lactose in that. I sadly cannot afford top brand organic kinds but may have to go for something like ALDI/LIDL/SAINSBURYS ORGANIC as I'm sadly not genetically gifted to the point where I can become a cash cow (excuse the pun!)for top tier health. On the plus side, I have an immune system that functions better than the average person in the UK these days as most people tend to lean towards a corn oil diet loaded in sugar toppings and excess carbs, and my body cannot tolerate most carb foods or sugar and even many fruits don't concur with me either.
@@dancercj1491 there are some stores, I think, that carry the a2 milk but it is expensive from what I’ve heard. Which is typical when it is something good for you, the industry always wants to cash in on it and make a profit. They’re not concerned with the consumers health or welfare, just their bottom line. ☹️. But remember even if you find some in a store, it will still be pasteurized and that’s what usually causes the lactose intolerance problem. To my knowledge a store cannot sell raw milk. Also even if you get milk from a farm, it should last way longer than 48 hrs, I have had milk in the frig for up to 10 days before it starts to sour! It lasts longer in the winter months for sure but still, as long as the refrigerator is kept at around 38* it should last fine. And we always use glass jars to store it in, your milk has better flavor in glass.
Hey Simon keto for a month and a half...today I had a cheat day....after having it I consumed ghee and relying on salt water...any tips to exhaust my glycogen storage?does walking helps??
@@FoereaperGaming I consumed some ghee after my cheat meal and fasted for 25 hours next day..now I'm doing fad diet for week only consuming ghee or coconut oil with few veggies is that k?? No protein
@@mariyajaveedkhan159 I cant speak personally on that because I consume a large amount of proteins with my fat because I work out a lot. Keto wise It should be fine but for an older man I would say its very important to maintain the muscle they have. So I personally wouldnt do no protein. Studies have shown that even walking can help to maintain the majority of ones muscles. So I would say that yes walking will help to deplete glycogen and also help in many other ways.
@@moviegoer9021 your best bet would be to sign up for the wait list for Dr. Westman’s course called “Keto Made Simple Masterclass” that opens last week of April. Unfortunately the answer is not as simple as you would like, although the program is simple to follow. The course is very affordable and over and above the actual course, there are three weeks of support within a private Facebook group to support you. Please click this link 👇 adaptyourlifeacademy.com/keto-made-simple-masterclass/
So you're saying we should be Keto AND Paleo. Far out. I can't tell you how disheartening it is. No sugar, sure. No bread, damn-it, but okay. No corn or peas, cutting it fine, but if I must. But NO CREAM OR CHEESE - Yeah, no. no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
Too right. Low carb AND low fat is an old fashioned crash diet. I think maybe he's speaking to the people who eat huge amounts of those things because there's no way low carb hunger can be satisfied without a reasonable amount of fats and oils, including cheese and dairy fats. And I'm not going without the calcium needed for bone health.
@@veniqe Sure but dairy free is a Paleo thing. I wouldn't even do Paleo with the allowable fruit, if I can't have cream and cheese ... and cream cheese! They make keto bearable, ol.
The fat bomb coffees are great.: yeah lots of calories.. high fat content. Zero carbs. I usuallly drink two in the morning (coffee w/ tbsp butter .. tbsp coconut oil). I will not eat anything til after noon. I suppose if I drank 10 it would be a weight gain issue, but that’s like saying I need to limit my fatty meat consumption because I may get fat from all the fat. This discussion was strange to me. This is carnivore /keto diet. HF LC. Cream, half and half, hard cheese, etc, easily falls into HFLC
I won’t do keto without cream and full fat cheese. It’s what makes the diet work for me in terms of satisfaction. I’d rather lose weight slowly and be happy all day every day. I’m healthy eating this way.
Me too!
agreed already have enough limitations with other food
I agree. It can’t be more restrictive than it already is.
Don't forget the butter, made from cream.
@@steph6197 love the butter!
Counting calories and keeping a keto diet lowered my triglycerides, raised my HDL and LDL. Lost 10 lbs. I started out at 142 and got down to 132. Thank you Dr. Westman. 74 years old here. And enjoy dairy in moderation as well as everything else except breads, rice, potatoes, fruit and pasta.
I’m only eating keto in order to keep myself from becoming type 2 diabetic. I eat dairy with reckless abandon!
Dairy works perfectly for me. Cheese, cream cheese, sour cream , cream and butter are staples for me.
Those of us who are Northern Europeans thrive on these foods. This fool has to cowtow to the others.
Take another listen you missed his point
Glad for you. However, dairy causes me many issues, including the inability to lose body fat. When i quit dairy, waist inches started dropping. 47 inches down to 39 inches
Okay ?
I need dairy, my body craves it. I probaby eat about an ounce of cheese each day, but I'm also on OMAD so everything is consumed in one meal. I'm losing about one pound per week which is fine.
If a diet is too restrictive, people won't stick to it. Removing all appreciable carbs is quite difficult but manageable. It is made infinitely more doable by increasing your intake of high fat satiating foods - such as cheese. If you try and remove dairy to, I think the diet becomes too hard to do...... unless you have specific reasons not to eat dairy.
This.
nah, meats taste great
maybe you need a bridge like cheese in the beginning but eventually that should go away. I started out eating lots of steak that was so tasty there was no need for anything else. I do have cravings and indulge in some things like cheese but it gets better and better as time goes by. I think it is worse to be hard on yourself and hold yourself to a standard that you know will end in failure. I am still addicted to coffee, though I have switched to decaf. But I think I have achieved so much. Rome was not built overnight.
@@user-lq3dj3eo8k Have you checked how they remove the cafeine from the coffee beans? I wouldn't choose for that, from a health point of view.
Wow, no wonder I only lose .2 lbs every other day. I drink a lot of coffee with heavy cream and I snack on cheese. Time to adjust my eating habits. Thank you Dr.
dairy helped to adapt my palate away from sugary carbs towards protein-heavy meals... it's also very affordable and requires no cooking... i dont know how many times I was saved from relapsing with carbs by just cutting a thick slice of cheddar cheese that would fill me up pretty well ... I don't eat it as much now because I like keeping my pantry simple, but I'm not scared of it either
Cheese has replaced all the so-called keto deserts I was eating before I went full carnivore.
I grab a piece of camembert which also curbs my hunger. Don't eat it every day though, as I like variety.
About two years ago I started KETO when I realized it was with no grains as I’m allergic to gluten & dairy. If I use just a little butter I’m fine so I fry foods in bacon grease. Down to 139 lbs. Feel much better.
I have a casein intolerance. Every time I stop dairy, I'll think well I can have butter and cream because they are so low in casein. Then I consume those 2 dairy things and my craving for cheese triggers and I end up eating cheese again. I have to stay off all dairy (sad face)
@@dianasthings729 Ghee is clarified butter so any residual casein and lactose is removed. It's a good replacement in cooking. Can't tell you whether it alone would cause cravings for cheese.
I finally got it, averaging 2.5 lbs a week on keto now, no nuts,no fake keto sweets,very little cheese,little or no mayo,limited butter,limited olive and avocado oil, good amounts ground beef,pork,eggs,95% carnivore till hit goal weight????
Cream in coffee keeps me satiated all day. It allows me to eat 5pm every day. I cut cheese though.
Me too! Cream is the answer for me.
I drink my morning coffee(s) black, but if I am trying to push not eating a bit longer, or if I am gonna be at work for a long shift(I never eat at work), I use cream in my coffee to help get me through until I eat .
Dr Eric Berg explained in one of his videos why it's better to eat earlier in the day, rather than not eating all day and eating dinner.
I have started having a teaspoon of butter in my coffee for breakfast, then eat a small lunch at 12 noon, and evening meal at 6pm.
I grew up on a Vermont dairy farm with raw organic milk straight from the barn until i left home. I still get raw milk, yogurt and cream from a local farm in NH now. And lactose intolerant friends have no issues with the raw dairy. Plus delicious
I think the information you share here is so interesting. I don’t know the science behind pasteurization, but do you know what part of the process or what the change is that occurs in pasteurization that may render it “irritating” to our system? Thank you.
@@cindygunn7 ❄️I believe pasteurization removes all of the beneficial, good bacteria which changes the impact on us.
Real milk is raw! I love it!
@@lifestationexpresslinda9425 ☕️Cream is to die fir, no carbs.
I hear nothing but good about raw milk - _IF_ you can get it !
Fermented dairy has much less carbs. I make milk kefir with Half n Half. It can be made into milk kefir cheese too. Giving up dairy ... cream, HnH, sour cream, cream cheese, cheese, butter, ghee, etc., would make KetoVore undoable for me.
I just eliminated dairy for 2 weeks and after day 3 I felt a significant decrease in joint pain. I also saw the scale move. On Saturday, I reintroduced dairy and scale went up 2.5 lbs and had sweet cravings.
Wow ... ! Interesting...
there's a difference between cheese and butter
I first cut out cheese because cheese kept making me hungry, and i did not want to see the reality. I still kept having butter (but no more HWC). I often made brown butter bites and eate them with carnivore meals. Only when my pants no longer fitted did I wake up to the reality that the milk sugar in milk made me gain weight (and not little!!!). Since I cut out butter and mainly use lard and ghee (home-made) my pants are on the way to fitting again.
The reason why you’re experiencing problems is because dairy is for baby cows
@@zorabw8948 Butter has zero lactose in it. there is no milk sugar in plain butter
I respect Dr. Berry, but recently heard he is totally anti- dairy. I have been eating cheese and heavy cream. So, confused yet again by the internet, but Dr. Westman is still my favorite go to!
He doesn't have any issues with the steaks! Dr. Berry is one of those guys that I'd like to follow around for a while and see what he really eats. I don't trust him.
I love Dr Westman, makes it simple and easy to follow, sometimes I watch too much youtube videos, I always go back to Dr Westman for the facts!
Excellent.... thank you Dr. Westman for all that you do. Your book " End Your Carb Confusion" is my "bible" for my Keto journey.
I don't crave nuts however but cheese is something I can over indulge on but it is much better than indulging on sugars and the wrong carbs/carb snacks etc.
Love Dr. Westman! So no frills and common sense.
Thank you for watching 😊
Almond milk is high in oxalate.
As a self-sufficient farmer, I wanted to try nut milks, but for the life of me, I couldn’t find the teats.
Actually, I agree about cream cheese and cream. They make me hungry, so I have them occasionally. But eating fat that is on meat does not stall me. Bacon and steak are my friends. I never drink any milk. It is for babies and small toddlers.
I was using whole milk, One cup =12 grams carb. Then I found "Fairlife" whole milk, lactose free, double filtered, one cup =6 grams of carb...I keep the milk for coffee, One cup of milk a day. I think this is ok for now. I am only 4 months into Keto, have lost 25 pounds now, got my A1C down to 6.5, taking it a little slow, but looking at trying to drink the coffee black...
*I've always wondered about the role of dairy in a keto diet, and this video provided some much-needed clarity.*
Luv Dr. Westman! A man in the know. :)
Thank you Dr Westman. I enjoy your interviews you are very clear in your replies
Thank you🙌
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Thank You Dr Westman very helpful
Thank you so much. Appreciate your videos so much. I have learned so much and just started my weight loss journey on Feb 7th of this year. Before coming across your videos I was following every Keto video I came across and wrote down every recipe I could. Trying to figure out what was best for me and just trying to absorb everything. Consuming omgosh all of my spare time and many spiral notebooks of notes. I did invest in coconut and almond flour, nuts and nut butters a few things!! But made a full list of things I needed to buy. Hundreds of dollars of foods and tools. Feeling guilty really to spend so much money in that way on my self. I feel so foolish now and time wasted. But thank goodness before spending alot of money. "Or should I say throw it away." I feel like I am on the right track now. And have you to thank. I will be following you and let you know in November how my journey turned out. Thanks again.
Janet there is so much info out there on keto that is confusing. I too have done a ton of research and attempted keto a few times before but couldn’t sustain it due to tracking macros, and eating so much extra fats etc. So finding Dr Westman’s approach I am relieved! His easy pg 4 instructions are really refreshing and I am giving it a go. I just started this week and already feel some progress. Wishing you all the best.
Cream cheese is something I can barely do without: cream cheese and egg pancakes are great! I’ve gotten tired of using coconut oil for frying, so now it’s ghee instead. I’m almost entirely Eastern European in ancestry, so any residual lactose isn’t a problem.
Agreed. I'm Eastern European too. Could not make this diet work without dairy.
This was very helpful because my BMI has come down to 21-22 with low carb and I like hard cheese.
String cheese and mild cheddar might be why my weight loss has slowed down. Might try pure Carnivore for a while just to see what happens and keep cheese out of it. Trouble is, I actually like some veggies and salad. It’s harder for me to give them up than it was to quit sugar and junk food!
When I eat cream, Brie and butter I can’t stop lol. Especially whipped cream with raspberries. I’ve noticed when I don’t calorie count and don’t restrict those foods a bit my weight loss stalls.
Exactly the same 🙂 whipped cream with berries is my weak point
is this sugar free whipped cream?
@@HomeFromFarAway yes
The truth is that raw dairy is better for you than pasteurized. Unfortunately, it isn’t legal in every state so most of the country is forced to settle for second rate product.
But if you can only get pasteurized milk products, I would still recommend that you keep them full fat and sugar free. Also watch out for some brands of shredded cheese that put things like potato starch in it. It always helps to read the ingredients list.
Not true. If youre allergic to milk protein (casein) then it doesn't matter which pink unicorn of purity made it. It will still take you down.
You're spreading dangerous misinformation about something you know nothing about.
I equate dairy into the fat category, as most the dairy I buy is full fat. Therefore I eat it in moderation. I don't add extra oils or butters just for the sake of adding fat. I add dairy just for flavor. I'll use a little butter to cook my eggs, add a couple Tbsp of cream in my coffee or sprinkle a light amount of cheese over my dish. Sometimes a small dollop of sour cream here and there. This is what I love about Keto. Never could I do this on a low calorie diet and still lose weight.
6’3 200lbs., lean and athletic. On high protein/ animal fat and low carb intake because I had lab work done and my triglycerides were high. Been adhering to this way of eating for a month now and I feel great. I do consume non pasteurized cheese and milk however, once a day. It helps with satiety. Eat twice a day typically. I do realize that most people start this journey overweight, so I understand how limiting dairy is sound advice, but I don’t have a lot of fat to spare so I am trying to maintain muscle mass and energy levels.
I have hashimotos and understand the no dairy consumption, the smallest amount will cause a flare up on my scalp, itchy. I really enjoyed watching Dr Westman and believe he's very helpful with explaining the lactose sugar in milk.
Hashimoto’s here and no dairy for me too.
U should try raypeat approach !
Thank you for this clarity. I use butter in my coffee, I'm going to cut back.
Bullet proof coffee is what they call it and you're right, a person should count one large cup as a meal.
DEAR DR.WESTMAN THANKS FOR CARING ABOUT PEOPLES HEALTH.
I tried bullet proof coffee and just didn't like the consistency. My recommendation is to find a good blend that you find satisfying and just drink it black.
@@MysterySemicolon In our houses, we're not about to consume ANYTHING with a tacky-sounding name. We're not going to have "Bulletproof Coffee", or "Fat Bombs", any more than we're going to have "Dump Cakes", "a cuppa java", "PBJs", or "Mac-&-Cheese".
@@megaswenson The basics are what counts, not fancy names.
Not much of a meal.
Ah Table Mountain on the wall behind Dr Westman!
Just noticed that too🇿🇦😁
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Fantastic discussion answers many questions I've had and some I didn't know I had. Blessings to you both.
Thank you 🙌
Could dairy be causing my dermatitis?
Love cheeses, cream,butter,heavy cream,but have to limit,cause as soon as I eat cheese daily weight loss slows instantly if at all
I eat butter because it's satisfying. I'm not sure if fatty ribeyes could do that. ❤ Dr Westman
I really do want to know about yoghurt! No mention of this dairy food. Judith New Zealand
I drink a glass of homogenized milk quite a bit, but it is too carb heavy to drink all the time. Mostly I just use it as a craving solution. It's not super high in carbs, but as a mainly carnivore it is pretty much the only carbs I get.
Fortunately zero problems with diary for me, except problem with constipation but even that only with hard cheeses. Tried to eliminate diary to see if some benefits, have after a month found none. Eating mostly buffala or burattina, some hard cheeses. Butter is my main addition to foods.
Great video. Cheese is a weakness for me, so I weigh my portions.
I know the feeling. I could eat several blocks of mild cheese every week if it wasn't so expensive! Maybe cost is my "moderation" process! I don't have weight issues however but it can cause constipation in high doses to many.
How much( in grams) do you allow yourself on Keto a day to keep losing weight ????
what are your thoughts on whole milk full fat plain greek yogurt? I eat Fage, which has a total of 5 grams of carbs, no added sugar and 13 grams of protein. Should I be avoiding it?
Plain yoghurt is good for gut health. I intend to keep eating it regardless of the reply as it fits into my daily carb allowance and has calcium and potassium which I need to consume.
Good tips as usual. Good to note if you are trying to lose weight or not the health benefits alone of keto are a key consideration. Sometimes all the emphasis and decisions are based on what’s the best to lose weight. I feel if you learn a keto diet first then adjust to lose such as reducing cheese is a good approach.
You do get that Dr. Weston's practice is aimed at helping the obese and diabetic, hence his natural inclination to teach keto from a weight loss perspective. There are many other keto channels with a focus on sports performance, etc..
Another awesome topic! You guys are the best!! 😊
Grew up with family milk cows, raw milk, kitchen cheeses and ferments were staples. Then family moved and dairy was a luxury. Powdered milk and margarine were the staples. I don't have sensitivities to dairy, I really enjoy it. I DO have prefernces though. For example, I just love the Jersey cow products. I believe I can tell and feel the difference. Also, im particular to the well cared for and loved cows products found with a good dairy farmer. I am grateful to the factory that can provide good nutrition for many. Most follow the laws of good animal management now. I've gotten to see for myself.
Thank you for this informative and balanced guidance.
You don’t have tooo have … just the protocol. It is so simple: Not, to be confused with easy.
This video makes me want to pack it in. I already don't like most of my meals on keto.
You don't lose any weight on keto?
I stopped eating dairy for months and stared again. I have already lost down to 118 lbs but reintroducing it caused so much joint pain it was horrible. I think every joint in my body joints that never hurt before hurt. It certainly is not worth that much pain.
Not worth it FOR YOU!
Others have absolutely no problem.
wondering how not eating dairy would give you joint pain? I got joint pain from grains, wheat and very bad from rice because its full of arsenic. The other grains are full of roundup. When I stopped eating grains, my joints are so much more fluid and my arthritis in my knee went away.
#QUESTION. Sugar free jello has maltodextrin, won't that raise my blood sugar?
Drinking even whole milk gives me intense cravings for more milk. So I stopped drinking it; struggled to control consumption.
Good point. I've come to that realization myself.
I am blessed to do well with dairy. I just wish I could find a fresh source around me.
Have you tried Fairlife lactose free milk.
@@cybersal7 my mom used to drink Lactaid and never lost an ounce with it.
Yeah, I have the same issue. I have to measure out my daughter's milk to ensure there's enough for her or else I'll down it all 😢
Milk is an addictive substance.
As an occasional treat, I have goat cheese or sheep's milk cheese. I don't enjoy cow's milk dairy, except for cream. Thanks for the info.
👌 ~ Very educational information. We must be careful of our diet to fit our indivdual needs . 💪
I may or may not have eaten to much Cheese this Christmas. In my defence, there's way to much Fromage choices at that time of year. Lol. 🙄🧀
Thanks for sharing this important dairy information.
Take care everybody. ❤️🙂🐶
What about kefir?
Lactose free milk and cheese is fine, carbs are extremely low if used in moderation.
Thank you ♥️
cream and high fat cheese is exactly what i want
if not concerned about weight.....can you eat all the butter you want? thanks
Pretty much. I eat about 3 or 4 tbsps or more per day. I mean heaped. Big hunks of butter lol. Then a tsp in a decaff coffee too.
Dairy is inflammatory for me and knocks me out of ketosis. I can eat a small amount of feta cheese and grassfed butter. Overall I have to not over do it with fat or I won't lose weight.
I've lost over 50lbs 4yrs ago um I cut the fat and gained back some weight so I upped my fat and Im losing again.So its ok to keep consuming high fat at maintenance? I keep my carbs 20 or less.
Yep! High fat low carb! Focus on protein and fats and see how much rooms left fir other things :)
The leaner you get the more fat you will need, according to ted naiman
HIGH fat carnivore here (2yrs now)
High Fat keto prior (5yrs)
I also lost 50lbs.......and never returned
HIGH fat......is great if no low carbs and sugars
Body.....goes Fat Adaptive
Energy......ONLY comes from bodies fat, calories you eat!!
Last night/evening after ?? 18hrs of nothing (black coffee) ......i finished day before meal of
Eggs over easy, rib eye and beacon
I reheated added 3 more eggs topped with sour cream and cheddar cheese
I lost 50 lbs in 5 months. High fat, cheese, cream, butter, 20 carbs or less, intermittent fasting, OMAD. No cravings, no more joint pain, no gas, more energy, better sleep. Basically, feel 20 years younger at 66.
I went to your web site, I didn't find free anything. I had to sign up for your mailing list. Then all I found were paid courses, and books to buy.
What about yogurt and kefir?
I can’t believe how it kills your appetite!!! I have to make myself eat
But don’t these low carb high cal items provide satiety? Without satiety aren’t we destined to failure?
By eating the fat that is naturally found in the food means you will feel satiated.
Dr. Westman, I’ve learned useful info from your videos. I wonder what you think of Skyr, Icelandic yogurt, which is lactose-free, low-carb, and high in protein. Is it okay to eat a 150g serving of this everyday while keeping daily total carbs under 20-30 grams?
i love greek yogurt and limit to 1/2 cup, is this ok?
I love Greek yogurt but it does have 5 grams of carbs for 2/3 cup serving (Fagi)
I recommend A2 protein grassfed heavy cream on a small limited basis.
No. It doesn't work for casein allergy.
In other videos he recommends eating butter ????
This is why calorie counting whilst on keto is a good idea if trying to lose weight, you know exactly how much you can have so it doesn't need to be excluded.
Milk has been a major staple in my diet tthroughout my life, as I was born and raised on a dairy farm in Michigan. I went through serious trouble gettig my mind to drop the dairy addiction, but w/ a little perseverance, I have manged to stay away from my beloved milk. It still calls to me, every time I go to the grocery store, but I no longer pass by the dairy section and that helps. My journey into the Keto diet has just begun and I'm curious where it will take me, nutritionally.
We are all learning together ... 👍
Nutrient dense foods- organ meats, eggs, fatty fish, meat- cheese limited
anybody watch Dr. Sanjay Gupta Sunday Morning on CBS? Interesting. I did not know he was a brain surgeon. He had some interesting things to say about Alzheimer's, especially foods.
I eat cheese, cream cheese, sour cream, heavy whipping cream, butter. I use the Cronometer app for a rigorous ketogenic diet. Fat is so important because it helps with satiety,
I'm confused. It's suppose to be "high fat" and yet the fat has to be limited.???
Yes, high fat meaning it comes from your body fat. That’s where people get it wrong, they think it means Nutritional Fat.
OMG... I also thought we had to consume a lot of FAT!😳 some doctors say to eat a lot of fat instead of carbs because insulin is pulled from fat or something like that. 🤔
But why does skim milk help prevent and treat gout flares? I’ve seen this work for me more than a few times. Perhaps as just a medicine is fine when needed.
I don’t get limiting cream. It’s all fat. No lactose. Very dense and a higj energy content. Ising it in a meal would be very satiating. Using heavy cream in the carnivore/keto diet would be a great source of animal fat which is what we want in the HFLC diet. Same with butter. Scratching head here
I think the advice is for people who want to lose weight, which is many people. For the rest of us, I agree with you that it's a great fat source.
Fairlife Wholemilk 5o% less carbs 50% more protein, lactose free. Good?🏋
Dairy absolutely does not work for me. So many keto recipes use diary. Even sheep and goat dairy don't work for me. There is a relationship of my consumption of diary and sores that appear on my face...only on my face. :(
I have that problem too, even though I've ditched the (plain) yogurt and also cream in my coffee. I'm now limiting full milk in my coffee to 50mls., about 1 tablespoon but the problem whilst reduced, still persists. Maybe I need to follow your lead and drop the dairy completely. Thanks for your insight.
Milk protein allergy is common.
I love full cream.
I do the macros math and find it impossible to get enough fat (>70%) to be Ketogenic. Even Ribeye is only 60% fat. I add butter for the fat macros. Is this wrong?
I eat dairy but get tired of it and end up not eating for a long time.
my wife doesnt like meat,…shes forcing herself slowly to eat some, she cut sugars and carbs and dairy messes up her stomach…she doesnt want to lose weight, just eat healthier, any suggestions of food to keep her weight?THANKS
What about raw goat milk
i dont get it, how can butter and oils reduce the fat storage burning activation? is he aiming at a hormonal switch or just calory overdose?
Hello, So, I am trying to lose weight with Keto and thought that eating until your full sounded great. Then, there is too much fat? So what is the limit on fat? I am on a facebook group for Keto and they mention using an app to work out macros and the fat limit is highest, over 100 grams of fat. So now I am to limit those? Also, what are the foods with fats already in them? I am thinking bacon, but bacon can have a lot of fat.
Do the atkin's protien drinks ok?
I have one every other day for breakfast. Hasn’t affected my weight loss.
Is that a Capetonian outjie with a Kaapse accent?
Strange he does not differentiate between cow's milk & goat/sheep's milk. It's very important!
Goat's milk has the same effect on me as cows
@@franbrough129 I don't speak from experience here, but from what I understand a lot of people have different experiences with goat milk products than cow milk products. One of the main differences is supposedly the types of proteins. Those in goats milk is less likely to cause an undesirable reaction than cows milk.
@Craig Slitzer. If people had a source of raw A2/A2 cow milk they would most likely have no issues with allergies, etc. I know people personally that have severe milk allergy, not just a lactose intolerance, and when they drink raw A/2 milk they have no issues. They don’t even need to take medication to tolerate the milk. The problem is that most dairy cows in this country are Holsteins and the majority of Holsteins produce A1 milk, which is why so many people cannot tolerate it. Now the Guernsey and Jersey breeds of dairy cattle are mostly A2’s but they are vastly outnumbered in the big dairies that produce the fluid milk for consumption in this country. If all people had access to the A2 protein milk AND raw milk, we would not be seeing issues with milk intolerance. People with just a lactose intolerance usually can drink raw milk and have no problem with intolerance. Pasteurization is what messes up the lactase in the milk. Raw milk has received a bad rap for decades and it is ridiculous! It has been all our family has drank for 25 years as we have our own family cows, which are also A2 milk producers. We have nephews which experienced issues with store bought milk but when they came to our farm and drank our milk they had no problems whatsoever.
@@kellyschroer2114 Thanks for this information about A2 milk. I had no idea about Guernsey or Jersey cows being A2. Thing is, is A2 milk sold anywhere other than farms? Sadly, where I live, there are no sources of this milk or raw milk so I'm taking my chances with cheese and hoping for the best (I don't feel bad with cheese as long as I don't go over the top with the consumption rations :D ), cheese from Marks and Spencers (I have a weakness for mild cheese).
Now, I did try raw milk years ago but there were caveats. A), although I experienced an initial euphoric feeling from the initial drink, I had major stomach cramps and some intolerance from the dairy unfortunately. Plus, the one I bought if from only sold it in huge quantities and within under 48hours the milk soured - even in the freezer as I tried to turn it into natural ice cream. I was intolerant to it so it was probably still A1 milk.
If I know for sure that A2 milk is sold in some stores, I will look into it and try it out just to see if I can handle the lactose in that. I sadly cannot afford top brand organic kinds but may have to go for something like ALDI/LIDL/SAINSBURYS ORGANIC as I'm sadly not genetically gifted to the point where I can become a cash cow (excuse the pun!)for top tier health.
On the plus side, I have an immune system that functions better than the average person in the UK these days as most people tend to lean towards a corn oil diet loaded in sugar toppings and excess carbs, and my body cannot tolerate most carb foods or sugar and even many fruits don't concur with me either.
@@dancercj1491 there are some stores, I think, that carry the a2 milk but it is expensive from what I’ve heard. Which is typical when it is something good for you, the industry always wants to cash in on it and make a profit. They’re not concerned with the consumers health or welfare, just their bottom line. ☹️. But remember even if you find some in a store, it will still be pasteurized and that’s what usually causes the lactose intolerance problem. To my knowledge a store cannot sell raw milk. Also even if you get milk from a farm, it should last way longer than 48 hrs, I have had milk in the frig for up to 10 days before it starts to sour! It lasts longer in the winter months for sure but still, as long as the refrigerator is kept at around 38* it should last fine. And we always use glass jars to store it in, your milk has better flavor in glass.
Hey Simon keto for a month and a half...today I had a cheat day....after having it I consumed ghee and relying on salt water...any tips to exhaust my glycogen storage?does walking helps??
Fast on just water and salts for a day or two. Its the quickest easiest way to get back into the swing of things.
@@FoereaperGaming I consumed some ghee after my cheat meal and fasted for 25 hours next day..now I'm doing fad diet for week only consuming ghee or coconut oil with few veggies is that k?? No protein
@@mariyajaveedkhan159 I cant speak personally on that because I consume a large amount of proteins with my fat because I work out a lot. Keto wise It should be fine but for an older man I would say its very important to maintain the muscle they have. So I personally wouldnt do no protein. Studies have shown that even walking can help to maintain the majority of ones muscles. So I would say that yes walking will help to deplete glycogen and also help in many other ways.
Sorry I meant fad diet...only pure fat no proteins
Vigorous exercise definitely helps deplete glycogen
I eat raisin bran for fiber,what can i use other than milk?
Raisin bran is not part of our program. It’s high in carbs.
@@AdaptYourLife what other foods to help with a regular b/m in its place
@@moviegoer9021 your best bet would be to sign up for the wait list for Dr. Westman’s course called “Keto Made Simple Masterclass” that opens last week of April. Unfortunately the answer is not as simple as you would like, although the program is simple to follow. The course is very affordable and over and above the actual course, there are three weeks of support within a private Facebook group to support you. Please click this link 👇
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You need to check that box for sugar and carbs. It is a no no.
You can also just buy his book "End your carb confusion" and it will guide you. No need to do the program if you have limited funds.
So you're saying we should be Keto AND Paleo. Far out. I can't tell you how disheartening it is. No sugar, sure. No bread, damn-it, but okay. No corn or peas, cutting it fine, but if I must. But NO CREAM OR CHEESE - Yeah, no.
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Too right. Low carb AND low fat is an old fashioned crash diet. I think maybe he's speaking to the people who eat huge amounts of those things because there's no way low carb hunger can be satisfied without a reasonable amount of fats and oils, including cheese and dairy fats. And I'm not going without the calcium needed for bone health.
It isn't low carb AND low fat. There are many other keto-approved fats, eg animal fat, eggs, avocado, coconut, and olives.
@@veniqe Sure but dairy free is a Paleo thing. I wouldn't even do Paleo with the allowable fruit, if I can't have cream and cheese ... and cream cheese! They make keto bearable, ol.
He includes 4 oz of cheese daily❤ on his program
The fat bomb coffees are great.: yeah lots of calories.. high fat content. Zero carbs. I usuallly drink two in the morning (coffee w/ tbsp butter .. tbsp coconut oil). I will not eat anything til after noon.
I suppose if I drank 10 it would be a weight gain issue, but that’s like saying I need to limit my fatty meat consumption because I may get fat from all the fat. This discussion was strange to me. This is carnivore /keto diet. HF LC. Cream, half and half, hard cheese, etc, easily falls into HFLC
Sugar free Greek yogurt makes me sleepy if I eat this at lunch time!😢
Most pro keto doctors, even Dr Phinney says to eat about 70% fat.