My dad was an elder. He pointed out to me that there's a rule in the Shepherd book (didn't actually say the name of the book) when I was college age that there's really what I see as a cheat code: if you're in "full time service," (i.e. pioneering) and your meeting attendance isn't affected, you can pursue higher education. If they can point to, "well, he's pioneering," you can get away with it. I always thought that was pretty sleazy. As long as they get theirs and you're still doing it, they will overlook it. If you can't work a hundred hours a week and make all the meetings like a normal human can't, poor it is.
This would massively depend on who your elders are. I imagine there are many elders who would simply ignore that rule and look for a reason to disfellowship anyone that goes to college. I mean it's not like most witnesses know about that rule.
@Myke_thehuman That's the bad part. They govern you with a book of rules that no one knows about. It's like inviting someone to your house and telling them to make themselves at home then later give them a list of dos and don'ts that contradict it.
When I was young & left my “wonderful” ms with my children, I went to community college end up certified in certain business courses and never told anyone and then got a good job and kept getting better jobs from that. I knew I had to do something to provide for my family in the best way possible as a single parent. I continued to be a JW for decades. But I finally found out all the fraudulent activities they participate in, then left.
I was told, the same ones the catholic church used also at a hrly rate that cost them big time. Head lawyer at the time of the royal comm in Australia was Toole, the one.who lied n said he didn't know what spiritual warfare was to Angus Stewart. He threw more questions to Toole n quoted a wt article. He answered I wasn't a witness then. I read in comments once that he was a co (I think qld) n the society SENT HIM TO UNI TO BECOME THEIR HEAD SENIOR LAWYER. after the royal comm he disappeared. No longer one I charge but all r equal. (Accordingl to a witness I know who knows him bc his own son as a jw wentbto uni to study law n worked with him). So did he retire after the royal comm? If so was it bc he was totally embarrassed????? Or was he removed?????
They forget that in their said "new world 🌍 order" that they will still need historians, structural, civil & mechanical engineers, astronomers, mathematicians, linguists, biologists, archaeologists, interior decorators, graphic & fine artists, scientists, etc., etc. They're just listing fields in medicine, law and law enforcement. You need 4 year college degrees for the ones I listed in the former.
Im almost done with my degree at 45 yrs. old. I wish I would’ve completed my degree in my twenties, but I was discouraged from pursuing one. When I told my wife that the governing body doesn’t agree with higher education, she didn’t believe me. Well, thanks for this video, now she can see for herself what I was talking about.
You beat me by 10yrs. I started my degree at 55, 5 yrs ago. Don't regret it. Also got pushback, and alienated my "friends". But absence from meetings fast tracked my awakening😂
@@nparksntx I’d be interested in hearing their response. I get visited by a JW a couple of months so she can drop off a pamphlet, Watchtower, or invite me to a meeting. I really want to let her know that I’m an atheist and have no intention of ever returning to the Kingdom Hall but she always has her 4 yo grandson with her and has him handing me the shit. I think she knows exactly what she’s doing with that. Maybe I should write a note stating my feelings/thoughts and have it on hand to pass to her next time. Cause I’m really sick of having to engage in conversation that she’s only having with me to try and “bring me back into the fold”. She’s nice, but I know why she’s there, I was a part of them long enough to know their mentality.
@@cassievining340 If you’re an apostate doesn’t it mean they aren’t supposed to talk with you? I “scared off” the last ones because I let my pride get to me when I began quoting how their Bible translation was different than the others after they told me I could read & study any Bible.
I never watched a JW broadcast until I left the tower, but I saw two Tony Morris clips because they were using them at the hall to test the streaming for something. the first one was this clip about higher education and it made me so angry I walked out of the hall to gather myself. but when I went back in they had switched to the clip where he talks about gay people and I turned around and went home, livid. I was already starting to wake up, but looking back, it was the JW broadcasts (as well as the original songs, which I viscerally hated and wouldn't allow to be played around me), and specifically these clips that were a major linchpin in my journey out.
Yeah, I don't think that my congregation was realizing this is an American cult to begin with, or who its leaders actually are. That was always conceptually abstracted as "the faithful and discreet slave". But then they started showing the broadcasts and making it about the actual individuals that sit on the governing body, and their regressive, homophobic and bigoted ideas. I'm sure it's eye opening for many. I'm glad it was for you.
Tony Morris telling the woman to stop talking reminds me of a girl I knew who had this parrot. Fucking thing wouldn’t shut up; the parrot was cool, though…
So interesting that watchtower doesn’t want you educated when they are recruiting in good standing people that went to college that were born in JW’s. I know this personally. They don’t want the regular rank & file to go, but they have chosen ones that are allowed to go to college and be accepted to Bethel. There are so many adjectives I could use for this, but everyone should come up with their own because I think at first it affects our feelings and is an insult to our intelligence and kicks in our instinct to want to punch something. But I am so happy that I walked out at a time in my life were I still have some years left to really make a difference in the world and be happy.🎉
What’s really weird is that many if not the majority of JDubs haven’t even noticed and even if they did know, it’s out of sight out of mind ! 😳 For example I mentioned to my sister who is a hardcore JW; that I wonder what happened to Anthony Morris: and she said; Who ?
@@ChristineRossi-rc7xl : Maybe he tripped and fell onto the hot barBQ grill while giving a live demonstration of how he was planning to make smoked, split open, human hotdogs from heaven. 😡⚡️🌭 😳❗️🤣
That boy most likely got into Brown. Poor kid! BTW, if someone is a doctor or a lawyer now, they'll have a thousand years to learn construction and plumbing skills. And until they master those skills, they can always walk around collecting the bones of the dead. No skills needed for that!
Ultimately it is NOT the parents decision to make on whether their kids will attend college or not. Both of my kids made the decision to attend college. They both took the initiative themselves to apply for financial aid when the time came. Tony seems to think it's the parents who get to make the decision. It isn't.
the culture of JW can be heavy with guilt, and sway a kid from feeling comfortable trying to venture out on their own if everyone else is discouraging them. They can be made to feel rebellious against god for even wanting it. Remember, JWs are discouraged from even having friendships outside of their religion, so if your congregation is disappointed in your decisions, it can hurt. If they turn their back on you or worse, disfellowship you, you are literally left with no one in your life. If it's all you've ever known that can be devastating. It's sad, but many stay in the religion simply because leaving is too difficult.
I think he might have said Brown University, which is an Ivy League school in Rhode Island. Since we know this story was probably made up, the lawyers probably made the them snip out the name of a specific school in order to keep it vague.
@@TheVillainOfTheYear Salve Regina Johnson and Wales Roger Williams Even URI are all nationally recognized Universities I will say Brown is the most prestigious though, however I bet people don’t even know it is in RI
Bruce Willis and Demi Moore's oldest daughter graduated from Brown University. My daughter got her PhD from URI and is now a Scientist working for Brown. And my son graduated from URI. He is now a Pharmacist. I'm proud of them both!
@@gwenpytka6739 Pretty awesome what our children have been able to achieve outside of the cult!! One of our daughters just received her masters from UCONN and out other has her Business Administration degree that is now an office manager for a skilled nursing center
@@dinotudisca3821They would probably know Brown U before they'd know something like J&W (niche) or Salve Regina (anything Catholic makes JW burst into flames).
Who's gonna keep the nuclear power plants going in the new system? Or the microchip factories? Or the datacenters? Because without these things there's no way that they can keep running their costly media centers that they just built.
Armageddon will be selective on its destruction, and new scrolls will be opened that'll teach the brothers which buttons to push so it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience
Who's (and HOW) going to mine the minerals needed for electronics and then process, manufacture & distribute the minerals to make chips, circuit boards & batteries for their electronic devices so they can produce & watch all their Jesus movies and other online content they say they're still going to be teaching in "The New System"? 🤔 💭 ... oh the questions about WHO & HOW are endless!
they pretend to be “preparing for the new world” by encouraging blue collar trades. and yet, their entire website would collapse if it weren’t for the college-educated professionals managing the amazon cloudfront servers that their publications are hosted on.
Strange that the dress code for men is the suit and tie, clothing typically associated with corporate workers or executives. 🕵♂️ Certainly, University educated. I imagine all those blue-collar workers rolling up to Kingdom Halls in their beat-up window washer trucks, then throwing on their corporate outfits to go into the Hall 😅 That itself sings ⚠️ Fake. The little word blip from blue collar Tony may have been as innocent as a little whiskey burp! 🫗🥃
I was 17 and my dad expected me to become an MS. I had done everything right. So I got pulled into the back room by an elder who was a substitute teacher and one one who was an engineer. They told me I couldn't be at Ms because I was going to university. I mean I was already done with the religion and just pretending, but that was the last meeting I ever went to. And my parents kicked me out that night. LOL
They recruited a JW doctor to serve at Bethel and he had a family with young children, the GB make exception for his family to move to Bethel so GB can have free medical care.
no offense to any older people reading this comment because not all older people have this mindset but part of this is boomer-think. They(governing body) are hit twice with the delusional stick since they dont have real jobs. Its not the same world at all..and they dont get it.
Always thought it was interesting Jesus disciples included lawyers, physicians, scholars but we are/were discouraged to not become educated or ask questions. And as we know; the organization will USE “educated” brothers/sisters for legal representation or when a rx is needed under the table. I’ve seen this first hand in exchange for favors.
The Watchtower Society's Governing Body closely resemble the followers of John Duns Scotus, a Scottish Catholic priest whose followers ridiculed higher education, and were later called "dunces" in the 16th century. The term "dunce" is a corrupted spelling of the name "Duns" in Duns Scotus, hence that term. Ironically, John Duns Scotus was a learned, or well-educated man, for he was a philosopher as well as a priest. Thank you for exposing the hypocrisy and lies of the Watchtower Society.
Anthony morris is probably the reason why my dad has raging manic episodes because he really has PTSD from thinking all his kids and grandkids will die. When I see these videos I picture my dad watching them and it starts to make a bit of sense in such a shit way. Man what a reality to live in. Sending love to anyone else who has to endure this crap.
You sir are a genius Jake. I really appreciate the time you take to put these videos together. JW is being exposed. So the truth is trying to hide the truth.😂 Not with the internet. Everyone is educating themselves today. You have to be a critical thinker. Trust me your Mom and Dad are proud of you.
30:30 Imagine the other things the son now believes in. Gravity? Atomic theory? How dare that young man start this rebellious course and allow himself to be molded by such worldly ideas. HOW SAD
I never quite understood how when won’t need doctors in the paradise. We will all be perfect; does that mean we wont ever get hurt; while cleaning up the after apocalyptic disaster?
I went to college. Finally got my masters degree. So disappointed I never met Satan there or even ran into any demons! I could at least have been propositioned by some really sexy guy who wanted to come with me to the Kingdom Hall just to draw me away from Jehovah… but no. Damn! 🤣🤣🤣
Shouldn't the adult "child" who is of university age be making their own decision about how much education they get? He keeps saying the "parent of the child" is responsible for making that decision. So, parents of 18+ aged children should be telling them they're forbidden from going to college???
Unless we are going to be constructing civilization in the new system like the Amish, we will need those with advanced degrees to be architects, engineers, scientists etc. The technology that makes construction easier today were brought about by people with advanced degrees inventing tools and constructing facilities to produce those tools and generate the power to operate those tools. Just to name few things in the supply chain. How about they explain food production in the new system next. FML 🤦♂️
We must wonder if that prestigious university is their lawyers' Alma Mater. I also wonder how extensive an education those who designed his wardrobe had. Do carpenters design the various structures they build or persons with engineering degrees? This guy's pretty selective warning the average JW about the dangers of higher education, while he personally and the org are totally immersed in the world! Hypocrisy at its best!
And despite the JW false beliefs about evolution, it’s actively used in medical research and has been for the past 120 years. For a single example, natural selection used by researchers was responsible for the Nobel prize winning Sabin shot for polio !
So true, they couldn't be doing any of these videos without modern technology. But, as long as the followers don't go to college, they'll never get smart enough to figure that out, right?
Well when it comes to college, I can't exactly 100% blame them, for what they're saying. There are some bad parts about it, but saying that you shouldn't go to college at all, is not right especially who are capable of getting those jobs. Such as a doctor teacher or a lawyer, but colleges or colleges. So if you do plan to go to college, at least get your information, about the college you want to go to beforehand. So you at least know, what you're getting into.
I believe he said Brown university. Obviously, they didn’t want to call out a specific university. Wouldn’t want to bring reproach upon Org… I mean Jehovah… 😏
Technically Anthony is talking about adults here. They’re young adults, but they’re 18 and over, so wouldn’t the decision to go to college/university be theirs and not their parents? And it’s not very likely that the parents are footing the bill for college, since they probably have low paying/pt jobs, so the student would be using a scholarship or some other source of funding for their education. So he’s really using the parents to guilt trip their son/daughter not to attend college.
so, what I really don't understand is how they keep changing their doctrines. How do they know that the new understanding is correct? How is anyone supposed to trust that the current doctrine won't get changed? For example, what if the GB said that you can't have a blood transfusion, in any form, including albumen or other blood partials, and you died. But then, not too long after, they said it's a conscience matter. That doesn't bring you back, does it? Or, what if you disagree with a certain doctrine and make it known your opinion only to be disfellowshipped for your stance. But then, the GB changes the doctrine which agrees with the stance for which you were disfellowshipped? How is that fair or just? Will they apologize and say "just kidding"? If the "light gets brighter" how can anyone be sure that what they say is "TRUTH"?
If you want to understand the mind of JW leadership i suggest doing two things 1) read George Orwell's novel called "1984" and 2) watch Abbot &Costello do the "who's on first" baseball routine. Combine these two things together will give you the answers.
and they have no problem using worldly people who went to college and are highly educated but came into the religion later on. Or sending Bethelites to college for particular reasons, like because they need lawyers. Also, I know MANY JWs that didn't go to college but own their own businesses and now hire many people from their Halls and have lots of money and homes and cars ... and those men just HAPPEN to be elders now. Very hypocritical
... With all the money spent on production, suits, 'kerchiefs, rings, other rings, tie pins and 12" thick acrylic desktops - could they not have 'hired' one staffer to wipe the oomska out of the corner of Morriss 3's mouth?
JWs almost always being window washers, or Window washers adjacent. ISNT even a stereotype or exaggeration. Surprise. It's one of the only jobs they're allowed.
why do the governing body say higher education is bad and then allow their own kids to go to university and become lawyers, 'um', me thinks there's a hypocrite some where here...
For a religion that calls itself 'the Truth', it sure does revise it's teachings on a constant basis.
New Shadows move as quickly as the "New Light.
""Do not seek the treasure!" ruclips.net/video/HtxbIkfDDO4/видео.htmlsi=QLng08FwuhLDj8G7
My sentiments exactly!😂😂
And those who drank the Kool-aid don't realize why that's such an issue.
and like ALL religion uses "circular reasoning" its true becuase the bible/koron/other holy book says!
They have to go around the problem because there isn't any direct way to unequivocally without doubt say this is it@@NightmareRex6
My dad was an elder. He pointed out to me that there's a rule in the Shepherd book (didn't actually say the name of the book) when I was college age that there's really what I see as a cheat code: if you're in "full time service," (i.e. pioneering) and your meeting attendance isn't affected, you can pursue higher education. If they can point to, "well, he's pioneering," you can get away with it.
I always thought that was pretty sleazy. As long as they get theirs and you're still doing it, they will overlook it. If you can't work a hundred hours a week and make all the meetings like a normal human can't, poor it is.
This would massively depend on who your elders are. I imagine there are many elders who would simply ignore that rule and look for a reason to disfellowship anyone that goes to college. I mean it's not like most witnesses know about that rule.
@Myke_thehuman That's the bad part. They govern you with a book of rules that no one knows about. It's like inviting someone to your house and telling them to make themselves at home then later give them a list of dos and don'ts that contradict it.
Good work Jake. To summarise Uncle Tony: “Keep ‘em poor and uneducated, they’re bound to believe anything we say”
Shades of LDS and Ensign Peak. Um do as we say not as we do..
@@rhecb I didn't finish college because of this cult.
When I was young & left my “wonderful” ms with my children, I went to community college end up certified in certain business courses and never told anyone and then got a good job and kept getting better jobs from that. I knew I had to do something to provide for my family in the best way possible as a single parent. I continued to be a JW for decades. But I finally found out all the fraudulent activities they participate in, then left.
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We dont need lawyers... Says WT employing lots of lawyers to fight CSA
I was told, the same ones the catholic church used also at a hrly rate that cost them big time.
Head lawyer at the time of the royal comm in Australia was Toole, the one.who lied n said he didn't know what spiritual warfare was to Angus Stewart. He threw more questions to Toole n quoted a wt article.
He answered I wasn't a witness then.
I read in comments once that he was a co (I think qld) n the society SENT HIM TO UNI TO BECOME THEIR HEAD SENIOR LAWYER.
after the royal comm he disappeared.
No longer one I charge but all r equal.
(Accordingl to a witness I know who knows him bc his own son as a jw wentbto uni to study law n worked with him).
So did he retire after the royal comm?
If so was it bc he was totally embarrassed?????
Or was he removed?????
They are extremely disingenuous!
Royal Comission Australien
@@delphinawhiles6235the later clearly
They forget that in their said "new world 🌍 order" that they will still need historians, structural, civil & mechanical engineers, astronomers, mathematicians, linguists, biologists, archaeologists, interior decorators, graphic & fine artists, scientists, etc., etc. They're just listing fields in medicine, law and law enforcement. You need 4 year college degrees for the ones I listed in the former.
Im almost done with my degree at 45 yrs. old. I wish I would’ve completed my degree in my twenties, but I was discouraged from pursuing one. When I told my wife that the governing body doesn’t agree with higher education, she didn’t believe me. Well, thanks for this video, now she can see for herself what I was talking about.
You beat me by 10yrs. I started my degree at 55, 5 yrs ago. Don't regret it. Also got pushback, and alienated my "friends". But absence from meetings fast tracked my awakening😂
Congratulations on your future graduation!
After watching this, I realized my mistake. I became too big for my britches. 😞
lol how dare you! 😂
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Hey Now ! ! 😆
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I was devout for a few years, until I witnessed the unbridled gestapo abuses. Disfellowshipping is cruel
How are construction workers going to build without engineers? Is everyone going to live like the 1700s?
they would honestly be fine with that.
They'd rather have control over ashes than see a diamond out of their grasp.
@@cassievining340 I’ve never thought to ask a JW but I think I will next time.
@@nparksntx I’d be interested in hearing their response. I get visited by a JW a couple of months so she can drop off a pamphlet, Watchtower, or invite me to a meeting. I really want to let her know that I’m an atheist and have no intention of ever returning to the Kingdom Hall but she always has her 4 yo grandson with her and has him handing me the shit. I think she knows exactly what she’s doing with that. Maybe I should write a note stating my feelings/thoughts and have it on hand to pass to her next time. Cause I’m really sick of having to engage in conversation that she’s only having with me to try and “bring me back into the fold”. She’s nice, but I know why she’s there, I was a part of them long enough to know their mentality.
@@cassievining340 If you’re an apostate doesn’t it mean they aren’t supposed to talk with you? I “scared off” the last ones because I let my pride get to me when I began quoting how their Bible translation was different than the others after they told me I could read & study any Bible.
I never watched a JW broadcast until I left the tower, but I saw two Tony Morris clips because they were using them at the hall to test the streaming for something. the first one was this clip about higher education and it made me so angry I walked out of the hall to gather myself. but when I went back in they had switched to the clip where he talks about gay people and I turned around and went home, livid.
I was already starting to wake up, but looking back, it was the JW broadcasts (as well as the original songs, which I viscerally hated and wouldn't allow to be played around me), and specifically these clips that were a major linchpin in my journey out.
Yeah, I don't think that my congregation was realizing this is an American cult to begin with, or who its leaders actually are. That was always conceptually abstracted as "the faithful and discreet slave". But then they started showing the broadcasts and making it about the actual individuals that sit on the governing body, and their regressive, homophobic and bigoted ideas. I'm sure it's eye opening for many. I'm glad it was for you.
Tony Morris telling the woman to stop talking reminds me of a girl I knew who had this parrot. Fucking thing wouldn’t shut up; the parrot was cool, though…
I found this to be a really thought provoking video. Thank-you for taking the time to make and load it up. Much appreciated
😂 "Shut up, woman. The men are talking" - Tony Morris
Talkative female 😢 and all I wanted was to listen to this guy before I went back to my lakeside villa and whiskey. 😮
Awww man.
Team away 10 years ago.
My Master's degree starts next year 🎉
🎉🎉go you! All the best.
great
Congrats!
Anthony Morris-shaped vacuum, thta's a good one
So interesting that watchtower doesn’t want you educated when they are recruiting in good standing people that went to college that were born in JW’s. I know this personally. They don’t want the regular rank & file to go, but they have chosen ones that are allowed to go to college and be accepted to Bethel. There are so many adjectives I could use for this, but everyone should come up with their own because I think at first it affects our feelings and is an insult to our intelligence and kicks in our instinct to want to punch something. But I am so happy that I walked out at a time in my life were I still have some years left to really make a difference in the world and be happy.🎉
Absolutely correct. I remember a video at the midweek meeting where they sent a Bethalite to college to pursue a law degree. I could not believe it.
@@Flintstonesfan Serve people right for allowing them to dictate all aspects of their lives!
Ugh. The people who STILL think Tony just went off and resigned due to "illness" or by his own choice is sooooo frustrating. 😵💫😵💫😵💫
What’s really weird is that many if not the majority of JDubs haven’t even noticed and even if they did know, it’s out of sight out of mind ! 😳
For example I mentioned to my sister who is a hardcore JW; that I wonder what happened to Anthony Morris: and she said; Who ?
@@ShoNuffSoulBro1 WOW that's crazy! Just shows how the brainwashing WORKS!! They wanted them to forget him ... they FORGET HIM!
@@ShoNuffSoulBro1Whoa, now that's CRAZY!!! 😮
Maybe he got dementia. 🤣😂
@@ChristineRossi-rc7xl : Maybe he tripped and fell onto the hot barBQ grill while giving a live demonstration of how he was planning to make smoked, split open, human hotdogs from heaven. 😡⚡️🌭
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I remember watching that Broadcast as a JW long before I woke up, I was sitting there thinking "nah this isn't right at all".
They don’t like educated sheep, they learn critical thinking skills. Less likely to give their time, energy and finances to the corporation.
To the corporate/cult.
That boy most likely got into Brown. Poor kid! BTW, if someone is a doctor or a lawyer now, they'll have a thousand years to learn construction and plumbing skills. And until they master those skills, they can always walk around collecting the bones of the dead. No skills needed for that!
Ultimately it is NOT the parents decision to make on whether their kids will attend college or not. Both of my kids made the decision to attend college. They both took the initiative themselves to apply for financial aid when the time came. Tony seems to think it's the parents who get to make the decision. It isn't.
Parents have to sign the contract and pay a portion of the student loan. The kids can't sign up on their own anymore until they turn 24.
It’s great you gave your children the opportunity some of us didn’t have that chance because of the way things were taught and presented.
the culture of JW can be heavy with guilt, and sway a kid from feeling comfortable trying to venture out on their own if everyone else is discouraging them. They can be made to feel rebellious against god for even wanting it. Remember, JWs are discouraged from even having friendships outside of their religion, so if your congregation is disappointed in your decisions, it can hurt. If they turn their back on you or worse, disfellowship you, you are literally left with no one in your life. If it's all you've ever known that can be devastating. It's sad, but many stay in the religion simply because leaving is too difficult.
The removed guy, accused of child molesting, is the authority on this video.
I think he might have said Brown University, which is an Ivy League school in Rhode Island. Since we know this story was probably made up, the lawyers probably made the them snip out the name of a specific school in order to keep it vague.
It's probably this one. It's the only nationally "prestigious," university in Rhode Island.
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Salve Regina
Johnson and Wales
Roger Williams
Even URI are all nationally recognized Universities
I will say Brown is the most prestigious though, however I bet people don’t even know it is in RI
Bruce Willis and Demi Moore's oldest daughter graduated from Brown University. My daughter got her PhD from URI and is now a Scientist working for Brown. And my son graduated from URI. He is now a Pharmacist. I'm proud of them both!
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Pretty awesome what our children have been able to achieve outside of the cult!!
One of our daughters just received her masters from UCONN and out other has her Business Administration degree that is now an office manager for a skilled nursing center
@@dinotudisca3821They would probably know Brown U before they'd know something like J&W (niche) or Salve Regina (anything Catholic makes JW burst into flames).
I delayed my degree 10 years for the cult. I graduated with my degree just last year
Congratulations!
I love the way they can't differentiate between actual children and young ADULTS attending college
Or actual adults attending online like myself. Run from this cult everybody. 😅😅😅
Yep once a father always a father. Just like one an abuser always an abuser. Once a cult always a cult.
Oh no! They’re trying to make our children smart! We need to put a stop to this! They really don’t think before they speak.😂😂😂
Another great video, Jake. I really enjoy your sense of humor 😂 and your insights. Keep up the great work!
Who's gonna keep the nuclear power plants going in the new system? Or the microchip factories? Or the datacenters? Because without these things there's no way that they can keep running their costly media centers that they just built.
Armageddon will be selective on its destruction, and new scrolls will be opened that'll teach the brothers which buttons to push so it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience
Jerhover. Duh. Stop thinking.
Who's (and HOW) going to mine the minerals needed for electronics and then process, manufacture & distribute the minerals to make chips, circuit boards & batteries for their electronic devices so they can produce & watch all their Jesus movies and other online content they say they're still going to be teaching in "The New System"? 🤔 💭 ... oh the questions about WHO & HOW are endless!
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they pretend to be “preparing for the new world” by encouraging blue collar trades. and yet, their entire website would collapse if it weren’t for the college-educated professionals managing the amazon cloudfront servers that their publications are hosted on.
How dare this pinhead dumps on my professors...unbelievable.
They won’t needs lawyers? Then why did they try to sue that one guy? Their lawyer should have given up law and became a window washer
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No lawyers? Who is going to write business contracts?
Strange that the dress code for men is the suit and tie, clothing typically associated with corporate workers or executives. 🕵♂️ Certainly, University educated.
I imagine all those blue-collar workers rolling up to Kingdom Halls in their beat-up window washer trucks, then throwing on their corporate outfits to go into the Hall 😅
That itself sings ⚠️ Fake.
The little word blip from blue collar Tony may have been as innocent as a little whiskey burp! 🫗🥃
I was 17 and my dad expected me to become an MS. I had done everything right. So I got pulled into the back room by an elder who was a substitute teacher and one one who was an engineer. They told me I couldn't be at Ms because I was going to university. I mean I was already done with the religion and just pretending, but that was the last meeting I ever went to. And my parents kicked me out that night. LOL
I'm really sorry! Don't let them get to you!
“Prestigious [name] University” “[prestigious name] University”
childless men's right's activists 😭
"Has the governing body changed their position about higher education?" Isn't is what God's word says? Why should anyone care what the GB says?
I think they just want it hidden from the public that they're anti-higher education & also, they're going back to delete all Tony Morris videos
There's a LOT of that.
Perhaps he should speed thing up and have his own personal armageddon.
The way Morris says "Mno." like a stick old maid teacher! 😂
it's going to take 1000 years to get perfect but they aren't going to need any doctors in the meantime?😅😅
You're a miracle worker Jake. These videos are so therapeutic Lmao!😆🤣💀
They recruited a JW doctor to serve at Bethel and he had a family with young children, the GB make exception for his family to move to Bethel so GB can have free medical care.
Your editing is so funny. You should make Herds “wheeen” a recurring cut.
Devine education doesn't pay the bills.you can have your devine education and end up struggling
no offense to any older people reading this comment because not all older people have this mindset but part of this is boomer-think. They(governing body) are hit twice with the delusional stick since they dont have real jobs. Its not the same world at all..and they dont get it.
Always thought it was interesting Jesus disciples included lawyers, physicians, scholars but we are/were discouraged to not become educated or ask questions.
And as we know; the organization will USE “educated” brothers/sisters for legal representation or when a rx is needed under the table. I’ve seen this first hand in exchange for favors.
The Watchtower Society's Governing Body closely resemble the followers of John Duns Scotus, a Scottish Catholic priest whose followers ridiculed higher education, and were later called "dunces" in the 16th century. The term "dunce" is a corrupted spelling of the name "Duns" in Duns Scotus, hence that term. Ironically, John Duns Scotus was a learned, or well-educated man, for he was a philosopher as well as a priest. Thank you for exposing the hypocrisy and lies of the Watchtower Society.
Anthony morris is probably the reason why my dad has raging manic episodes because he really has PTSD from thinking all his kids and grandkids will die. When I see these videos I picture my dad watching them and it starts to make a bit of sense in such a shit way. Man what a reality to live in. Sending love to anyone else who has to endure this crap.
You sir are a genius Jake. I really appreciate the time you take to put these videos together. JW is being exposed. So the truth is trying to hide the truth.😂 Not with the internet. Everyone is educating themselves today. You have to be a critical thinker. Trust me your Mom and Dad are proud of you.
30:30 Imagine the other things the son now believes in. Gravity? Atomic theory? How dare that young man start this rebellious course and allow himself to be molded by such worldly ideas. HOW SAD
tysm for doing a video on this i was waiting on it!! i already know this will be fire🤩
When I was a young JW in the 80s people were routinely disfellowshipped or disassociated for going to college ! I never understood this!
I never saw that happen in any congs i was associated with.
@ did anyone who was a baptized publisher go to college ?
you said rhode island so much, I had to listen to the "road to rhode island" song from family guy
I LOVE family guy!
"Master Obi Wan has lost a broadcast. How embarassing. How embarrassing."
But it's vok to employ lawyers, doctors at bethel getting free college graduates tsking advantage of those professionals by recruiting them to Bethel.
Instructions unclear. Have doctorate now.
Thanks for keeping them honest!!
Omg thank you!!
@@altworldly You are very welcome. Thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos. We really appreciate you, Jake!!
You have such a funny sense of humor. Love your videos Jake.
I never quite understood how when won’t need doctors in the paradise. We will all be perfect; does that mean we wont ever get hurt; while cleaning up the after apocalyptic disaster?
Brilliant, thank you.
I imagine a bunch of lonely seniors nodding dreamily along and resolving never to go to college.
I went to college. Finally got my masters degree. So disappointed I never met Satan there or even ran into any demons! I could at least have been propositioned by some really sexy guy who wanted to come with me to the Kingdom Hall just to draw me away from Jehovah… but no. Damn! 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
Shouldn't the adult "child" who is of university age be making their own decision about how much education they get? He keeps saying the "parent of the child" is responsible for making that decision. So, parents of 18+ aged children should be telling them they're forbidden from going to college???
I just posted the same thing. lol
Yup, adults who have to be guilt tripped by their parents not to get a better education. 🤦🏻♂️
Thank u Jake❤
Hes not wrong though....i took a philosophy class and it probably set me on the path to LEAVING.
Unless we are going to be constructing civilization in the new system like the Amish, we will need those with advanced degrees to be architects, engineers, scientists etc. The technology that makes construction easier today were brought about by people with advanced degrees inventing tools and constructing facilities to produce those tools and generate the power to operate those tools. Just to name few things in the supply chain. How about they explain food production in the new system next. FML 🤦♂️
We must wonder if that prestigious university is their lawyers' Alma Mater. I also wonder how extensive an education those who designed his wardrobe had. Do carpenters design the various structures they build or persons with engineering degrees? This guy's pretty selective warning the average JW about the dangers of higher education, while he personally and the org are totally immersed in the world! Hypocrisy at its best!
And despite the JW false beliefs about evolution, it’s actively used in medical research and has been for the past 120 years. For a single example, natural selection used by researchers was responsible for the Nobel prize winning Sabin shot for polio !
They evolved a weak strain of polio that didn’t cause symptoms.
So true, they couldn't be doing any of these videos without modern technology. But, as long as the followers don't go to college, they'll never get smart enough to figure that out, right?
Loved this one, very humorous take, Jake!
Collage debt does not end up in donation boxes .
Evolution is not the sole topic in college! I used to hate hearing that shit growing up
Well when it comes to college, I can't exactly 100% blame them, for what they're saying. There are some bad parts about it, but saying that you shouldn't go to college at all, is not right especially who are capable of getting those jobs. Such as a doctor teacher or a lawyer, but colleges or colleges. So if you do plan to go to college, at least get your information, about the college you want to go to beforehand. So you at least know, what you're getting into.
"Im a father. Once a father always a father. Even though my sons are grown and married with families of their own, I still drink like a father."
Thanks
less than 10 Universities are actually Ivy League all on the east coast Brown Columbia Cornell Dartmouth Harvard Princetown University PA & Yale
Brown is in RI
@@dinotudisca3821 yeah I know that seeing as JFK Jr went to brown and eventually Harvard law school
I believe he said Brown university. Obviously, they didn’t want to call out a specific university. Wouldn’t want to bring reproach upon Org… I mean Jehovah… 😏
dawg, wtf are my eyes staring on thr screen?
You are SO funny!!!! I love your take on things!
It’s pretty clear he’s bad for business . Plus his love of Scotch 🫤🍹🥃
❤ I'm in love with your "paraphrasing " banter😅
Most people can’t afford “the better university”.
Technically Anthony is talking about adults here. They’re young adults, but they’re 18 and over, so wouldn’t the decision to go to college/university be theirs and not their parents?
And it’s not very likely that the parents are footing the bill for college, since they probably have low paying/pt jobs, so the student would be using a scholarship or some other source of funding for their education. So he’s really using the parents to guilt trip their son/daughter not to attend college.
It's more nuanced than that. Depends on how influential one's parents are when you're growing up and get to 18 years old
Wow 😂 - this is super culty
He obviously mouthed “Brown University”, which is in Rhode Island. They probably edited it out to avoid any liability.
Prestigious lion's mane............
so, what I really don't understand is how they keep changing their doctrines. How do they know that the new understanding is correct? How is anyone supposed to trust that the current doctrine won't get changed? For example, what if the GB said that you can't have a blood transfusion, in any form, including albumen or other blood partials, and you died. But then, not too long after, they said it's a conscience matter. That doesn't bring you back, does it? Or, what if you disagree with a certain doctrine and make it known your opinion only to be disfellowshipped for your stance. But then, the GB changes the doctrine which agrees with the stance for which you were disfellowshipped? How is that fair or just? Will they apologize and say "just kidding"? If the "light gets brighter" how can anyone be sure that what they say is "TRUTH"?
If you want to understand the mind of JW leadership i suggest doing two things 1) read George Orwell's novel called "1984" and 2) watch Abbot &Costello do the "who's on first" baseball routine. Combine these two things together will give you the answers.
Well spotted, Jake; thanks!
Great vid commentary, as usual Jake 👍
Who else thinks the apostle Paul was a chronic master baiter? That is something a sister once told me. 😮😂🤣😂🤣
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 GOOD ONE!
and they have no problem using worldly people who went to college and are highly educated but came into the religion later on. Or sending Bethelites to college for particular reasons, like because they need lawyers. Also, I know MANY JWs that didn't go to college but own their own businesses and now hire many people from their Halls and have lots of money and homes and cars ... and those men just HAPPEN to be elders now. Very hypocritical
Am I right that Tony Morris was the only member of the Governing Body who had children?
Yes
So 8 blokes with no kids dictate to millions of parents how to bring their kids up ,something stinks here
@@deanjames2476 9 now, but yes.
Yes. The only other GB who raised kids (step children) was Guy Pierce, who has been deceased for some years now.
Almost like priests.
See my brother in law an elder needed doctors to save his life......
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... With all the money spent on production, suits, 'kerchiefs, rings, other rings, tie pins and 12" thick acrylic desktops - could they not have 'hired' one staffer to wipe the oomska out of the corner of Morriss 3's mouth?
@altworldly where can i get a raw copy of that 2015 broadcast?
I added a link to the description 👌
@@altworldly thank you!! I just luv seeing TM3 in that flashy purple 💜
just lovely
Why philip Brumley became a Lawyer from the dimes WBT society?
Uncle Tony is like the jehovahs witnesses Joe Biden, he is fucking hilarious but you often wonder how he got that position of power
It feels creepy that he felt the need to say "once a father, always a father" like umm yeah we know that
American Flag flavored gum 😂😂😂
After hearing Tony slam going to college, im starting to rename KH, KingDUMB Halls, tho i bet that has been thought up looooong time ago haha
I think he said "The prestigious Brown University in Rhode Island"
JWs almost always being window washers, or Window washers adjacent. ISNT even a stereotype or exaggeration.
Surprise. It's one of the only jobs they're allowed.
why do the governing body say higher education is bad and then allow their own kids to go to university and become lawyers, 'um', me thinks there's a hypocrite some where here...
Your video cracks me up 😂😂😂