Hi, as an owner and user of an Intrepid Mk 1, I do have to comment. I think for a proper review one has to spend a little bit more time with the camera and actually try it out, not stop short of it, because it feels flimsy (sorry). 1) You get what you paid for, so it is soft and lightweight birch plywood, roughly sawn with a CNC cutter. My camera has the same problem with focussing and putting in a film holder like you did. BUT, it is manageable (until I am able to afford sth. more pricey and better, like a new 4x5 VDS or Chamonix or ShenHao or sth. used, CrownGraphic, Bush/Pressman, Tachihara). The Mk 1 is varnished thinly, so far I have not experienced any problems with wetness getting into it. [The new Mk2 is treated with some kind of oil/wax, which might mean more of an open surface, or might work better after all]. 2) I actually see more of a problem with MOVEMENTS, something, unfortunately, you didn't cover at all. First of all, the front has every movement one would expect (shift/swing/rise & fall/tilt), I believe actually more than the average SpeedGraphic would allow for. Back has some forward tilt, no shift or fall/rise or swing. All wood-on-wood surface movements are rough, and this means, kind of slowly fiddling the movements into place. The slots for the screws for shift in my example were so tight, I had to force them back and forth several times and - over time - they then became manageable. Same with rise and fall. The BELLOWS (which did not look that nice with your example, perhaps some mistake with folding the camera?) is one of the big plusses for that camera, allowing ample movements, even with a 90mm my case. Yes there is a huge difference to say my Toyo View 45 C (old professional Monorail) but then, everything I can do with LF by principle, using front movements is available. 3) SETTING UP and folding of the camera: some getting used to its' ways is necessary. One needs some practice to get the camera properly set up (And I gather you have more practice with your ShenHao?!): a) Folding the back up fully until it is at a right angle to the board, opening the screws for the side stabilizers fully (without loosing them…) , so the aluminum parts fit in the slots, making sure the back is still at right angle, then tightening the screws for the back, then for the sides b) Setting up the front: putting in the big middle screw (there actually is an indent in the slot for the middle point as an indicator of position), getting it straight and then put in the little screw on next to the big one into its slot, so the standard is parallel to the back. Then with both hands on the two screws on the side move the front for the lens part up, find the indent, get it straight with one's fingers and tightening the screws. Visual inspection if properly zeroed is necessary, and - beside the indent - there are no additional scales or marks available. I use a separate spirit level, the camera itself has non and no place to put them into. The camera has three positions for three different ranges of focal lengths and I have been able to successfully use a 90mm, 135mm, 150mm, 210mm and 270mm with it. All lenses have to be on a Technika board, my 90mm Grandagon is on a recessed board. There is some difference on tightness and proper fixture of the lenses in the hole, all the same if they are Wista, original Technika or Chinese variants. I believe the metal part which secures the lens board should have slots at 45° angle so fixing the lens board doesn't depend so much on friction alone (and the screws go into the plywood, only) and have advised the makers of this observation, but so far this has not been changed. c) FOLDING the CAMERA BACK back is reversed, but one needs to loosen the side screws on the front, otherwise the front assembly doesn't move backwards enough to fit under the back assembly when folding the back, otherwise one gets the wrinkles on the bellows, visible in your film. 4) The front holds heavy lenses like my Rodenstock Grandagon 1:6.8 f=90mm or Schneider-Kreuznach Technika Tele-Arton 1:5.5/270 without difficulty, the camera is sturdy enough. Using movements one has to take in account the weight of the lens, the rough surfaces make for breaking friction but it feels jolty for lack of a better word. 5) The camera has a rotating back, which works quite nicely, a feature not many Field cameras posses! The Graflok back (exchanging the screen with say a Polaroid back or Grafmatic) part in my case didn't work, there was not enough holding power and the metal sliding parts not secure enough to try. My Grafmatics did fit nicely in the slot for the film holders behind the screen. As with the front standard, I believe slots for the screws at 45° angle would help. Conclusion: the camera currently has no competition both on weight and price point. Long time stability we cannot say but as Justin Lowery (www.lowerylandscapes.com) put it: for one VDS one can buy almost four Intrepids, and see what excellent pictures he took with that very basic camera. Basically it just works and one can get around its' quirks, even though there are many! The extra money can be spend on film or lenses. Best Regards, Rolf rlfsoso.tumblr.com/
Hi! Thanks for the critique! I did go more in-depth in my written review over at Fstoppers, covering movements and such, but I can definitely understand your problems with the video. My issues with the camera are not that it can't get the job done, but that there are currently better built options out there that can be had for slightly more money. Intrepid may be sending me a version 2 of the camera to review as well, but even they acknowledged a lot of the problems the V1 had. Thanks for reading and your thoughtful critiques!
Hi Hans, fair enough, I will read up on fstoppers what you have to say. Still, the Intrepid is better than what you summarize, and at a fair prize for its' features and capabilities. R.
Did you consider sanding or waxing the moving parts on the intrepid? I just got mine (Mk1) and was wondering if I should improving the finish to make the movements smoother.
yep, I did wachs the slots (actually I wachsed the screw and moved it through the slot(s) until worked better. This also widens the slot just a bit. R.
rlfsoso I just received the 2nd version from Intrepid and I'll be addressing a lot of the differences in a new review. I'll be taking the camera out tonight to use exclusively in a full shoot, so I'll be more in depth this time. Critique noted and thank you for watching!
@@HansRosemond ah interesting! I've been looking at Shen Hao and Tachihara large format cameras for some time. Even though the Shen Hao is a copy like you say (and which I had a good feeling it was since it's from China lol) the quality looks great and I've heard other youtubers mention good things about them as well. Thanks for the info!
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM with the MK1 is nothing you mentioned. It's the tripod mount. Mine stripped out on day 3. I replaced the screws with some larger ones and that sussed it out, but yeah.. other than that, none of the problems youve mentioned are ones I find problematic, honestly. Yeah, is it as nice as a shenhao or anything else? No.. but it was 150 and weighs nothing. I've shot dozens and dozens of photos in mine and so far I am pretty impressed for what it is.
Pretty fair review. Would be a nearly perfect back pack camera, but needs to be disassembled and wood refinished. Raw edge on plywood is very distasteful. The newer generations look a little better. Still, as a lightweight backpack camera platform for modification, it has no competitor except perhaps a 120 roll film panorama camera. Since it only takes such a small amount of wood, for an additional $20 they could have used teak or mahogany or cherry; or at least seal the edge with epoxy. Even at the low price of the camera, their profit margin is still quite high considering its cheapness to produce. Its like "build it as cheaply as possible" is their mantra even though minor upgrade on materials and finish would not cost much, but make a big difference in final quality perceived. Its built cheap first and lightweight is just a handy consequence. In the meantime I will still schlepp the ShenHao.
I have one coming in the next week or two, its their "upgraded" version which supposedly addresses a lot of these concerns. I'll let you know what its like! Its also ~$50 more than the original.
Sorry you didn't enjoy the camera. I have been using my Gen 1 for over a year and have used it for two separate projects now so I thought I might provide a comment or two. After a year of shoving it into, and pulling it out of my backpack over the last year, I suspect that the pretty finish on your Shen Hao would have been trashed. Since the Intrepid uses a very simple finish I can easily put a little linseed oil on my camera from time to time and quickly renew the finish. Renewing the finish on the Shen Hao may take a little more effort. After some honest time in the field actually photographing with the camera you do get much quicker using it and the camera movements do smooth out a quite a bit. Now I absolutely love its simplicity. Though nowhere near as sophisticated as my Deardorff, for the life of me I just can't see the difference in my photographs. Everyone uses large format cameras for different reasons. My Intrepid was purchased to carry into the mountains and take photographs. I suspect that my total kit weight, including film, lens, holders and tripod, is lighter then that Shen Hao on its own. As for stability, it has worked quite well in some stiff mountain winds as long as I weight down my tripod a bit.
Daniel Stevenson I actually just received the V.2 from Intrepid and I'll be doing an in depth review of it. just setting it up once I can see a vast improvement. I'll be shooting with it tonight
Seems a somewhat odd comparison, the Shen Hao is 4x the cost, and 3x the weight, the Intrepid can also be set up in seconds too. I sure know what I'd rather take on a hike. Mine focusses surprisingly smooth btw, maybe I got something in-between a V1 and V2.
J Andrews the shen hao is only included so that new users can compare a middle of the road camera to the Intrepid as an entry level option. I think a lot of the market for this camera doesn't have much of a baseline to compare. the camera is certainly a good value, and weighs much less than the Shen. But bystanders the time you add a couple lenses, holders, ,filters, the pack itself, water...well that extra few pounds becomes less and less important. More and more the reliability and usability becomes the primary focus. I really hope to review successive models as I'm sure they'll improve.
I saw the video and the comment i know that some features requires to work with the camera a little bit longer but i consider that is the best option to start using view cameras i mean later you can invest in something more expensive but to start right the secong and go for some pictures in this format i think is pretty ok you sounded picky but it is totally fine you are comparing so camperisons sometimes are not fair but it is what it is, anyways thank you for the review.
Thank you for the review. I was thinking about one of these as a lightweight backpacking camera, but I think there are too many negatives to get the sole positive of the light weight.
I think you totally missed the point of the fact that it is supposed to be an introduction to large format. It's like saying to not get the Nikon d3xxx, d5xxx and d7xxx series of DSLRs to beginners and just go straight for a d850
James Lane Actually, no I didn’t at all. There’s a difference between having a functional camera that has less features and a camera that barely functions. I’m the first one to point beginners in the direction of a camera that’s old or has less features. However, a large format camera that is difficult to focus and stay in focus isn’t one that will inspire growth. This is especially evident because of how much of an improvement the second version is over this one. I highly recommend the V2 Intrepid. This one just didn’t cut it.
For the price, expecting to not have to massage it a bit is crazy. I do agree however, agree one is much better served buying used with vastly better hardware and design.
Comparing apples and oranges. Tell Intrepid to make you a $1,000 camera and you will get a better one. I expect to work on mine doing extra work on the wood and other details that I Can do.
Mate I swear you're just nitpicking problems. The Intrepid is just £250 new, while the Shen Hao is over £800. There's a saying that everyone should follow: you get what you pay for. Review it based on the price and what other cameras can you get at that price. What? I didn't get that?! Oh yeah, that's right, that's the cheapest. Although having many problems, if you're a good photographer and you want to take a picture you will do it even with a box camera. Plus, they're marketing it as a starter's camera. No starter cares about quality in something. They want the cheapest they can find and that gives them something they can get experience on and then move on. So yet again, we get to the point of you get what you pay for.
not to hammer a point that other people have made, but your review seems to say that i'd get a higher quality product if I paid 5 times the price. Its a bit of a no shit moment to be honest. you likened it to a self build project, So my question is immeiately; how does i compre to self build project cameras that you've encountered?
Matt Rogers The point of comparing it to the Shen Hao is not to say that the Intrepid should be as good. It shouldn’t. That’s would be a no shit statement. The point is to use the Shen, a mid-range camera, as a point of reference as to what someone who doesn’t know much about these cameras should look for in a camera. The first generation of Intrepid was lacking in many ways. So much so that the second version addressed nearly every complaint I (and many other reviewers) had about it. My conclusion was that for the same price one would be better off buying a used camera that would be more robust. Thanks for watching!
fair enough, maybe I was a little bit overly glib, and possibly you're right. if this is priced to be a beginner's LF camera then it maybe needs to sit in a place where it has limitations but is a bit more friendly to the beginner for it to have worth in that space. Rather than being something that's a bit of a headache to se up and get images out of. Then again that puts you in speed graphic territory. which falls comfortaby into that "comes cheap but has limitations" bracket. hmmmm... I've still not taken the plunge with an LF option to add to my arsenal of cameras (which is very mamiya heavy as it stands - including a 528 tl, a c33 and recently an RB67 without me really even noticing that it was happening) so I'm often tempted by some of these more budget friendly options to test the water with. I'm unlikely to go with an Interpid (certenly not an original v1) as I'm more tempted by either restoring older gear or doing a similar self build that going in for this with its limitations that you quite rightly pointed out. You have my apologies though, I may have inadvertantly taken out a frustration on you about certain people within the photography world who use the "you're an idiot if you don't just spend the money and get the top of the line thing" argument a little too often. You aren't actually a culprit of this one you just reminded me of it a bit. So, again, sorry about that.
Matt Rogers no worries. And if you're looking to getting a LF camera I wholeheartedly recommend the 2nd version of the intrepid. Leaps and bounds better.
The people who manage Fstoppers are particularly stupid. I followed a Google link to this review. but could see almost nothing of it because ,most pf ,my screen was obscured by the login and afs for stuff I don't want to see. My sight is difficult, and I am using the accessibility features of Windows. The ad panel is locked against scrolling, were that not so it would be merely annoying.
Foxglove963: Sure, you can always trust a robot RUclips voice. Right? Try www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Fresnel , it's pronounced "frā-ˈnel" after the French physicist.
Hi, as an owner and user of an Intrepid Mk 1, I do have to comment. I think for a proper review one has to spend a little bit more time with the camera and actually try it out, not stop short of it, because it feels flimsy (sorry).
1) You get what you paid for, so it is soft and lightweight birch plywood, roughly sawn with a CNC cutter. My camera has the same problem with focussing and putting in a film holder like you did. BUT, it is manageable (until I am able to afford sth. more pricey and better, like a new 4x5 VDS or Chamonix or ShenHao or sth. used, CrownGraphic, Bush/Pressman, Tachihara). The Mk 1 is varnished thinly, so far I have not experienced any problems with wetness getting into it. [The new Mk2 is treated with some kind of oil/wax, which might mean more of an open surface, or might work better after all].
2) I actually see more of a problem with MOVEMENTS, something, unfortunately, you didn't cover at all. First of all, the front has every movement one would expect (shift/swing/rise & fall/tilt), I believe actually more than the average SpeedGraphic would allow for. Back has some forward tilt, no shift or fall/rise or swing. All wood-on-wood surface movements are rough, and this means, kind of slowly fiddling the movements into place. The slots for the screws for shift in my example were so tight, I had to force them back and forth several times and - over time - they then became manageable. Same with rise and fall. The BELLOWS (which did not look that nice with your example, perhaps some mistake with folding the camera?) is one of the big plusses for that camera, allowing ample movements, even with a 90mm my case. Yes there is a huge difference to say my Toyo View 45 C (old professional Monorail) but then, everything I can do with LF by principle, using front movements is available.
3) SETTING UP and folding of the camera: some getting used to its' ways is necessary. One needs some practice to get the camera properly set up (And I gather you have more practice with your ShenHao?!):
a) Folding the back up fully until it is at a right angle to the board, opening the screws for the side stabilizers fully (without loosing them…) , so the aluminum parts fit in the slots, making sure the back is still at right angle, then tightening the screws for the back, then for the sides
b) Setting up the front: putting in the big middle screw (there actually is an indent in the slot for the middle point as an indicator of position), getting it straight and then put in the little screw on next to the big one into its slot, so the standard is parallel to the back. Then with both hands on the two screws on the side move the front for the lens part up, find the indent, get it straight with one's fingers and tightening the screws. Visual inspection if properly zeroed is necessary, and - beside the indent - there are no additional scales or marks available. I use a separate spirit level, the camera itself has non and no place to put them into. The camera has three positions for three different ranges of focal lengths and I have been able to successfully use a 90mm, 135mm, 150mm, 210mm and 270mm with it. All lenses have to be on a Technika board, my 90mm Grandagon is on a recessed board. There is some difference on tightness and proper fixture of the lenses in the hole, all the same if they are Wista, original Technika or Chinese variants. I believe the metal part which secures the lens board should have slots at 45° angle so fixing the lens board doesn't depend so much on friction alone (and the screws go into the plywood, only) and have advised the makers of this observation, but so far this has not been changed.
c) FOLDING the CAMERA BACK back is reversed, but one needs to loosen the side screws on the front, otherwise the front assembly doesn't move backwards enough to fit under the back assembly when folding the back, otherwise one gets the wrinkles on the bellows, visible in your film.
4) The front holds heavy lenses like my Rodenstock Grandagon 1:6.8 f=90mm or Schneider-Kreuznach Technika Tele-Arton 1:5.5/270 without difficulty, the camera is sturdy enough. Using movements one has to take in account the weight of the lens, the rough surfaces make for breaking friction but it feels jolty for lack of a better word.
5) The camera has a rotating back, which works quite nicely, a feature not many Field cameras posses! The Graflok back (exchanging the screen with say a Polaroid back or Grafmatic) part in my case didn't work, there was not enough holding power and the metal sliding parts not secure enough to try. My Grafmatics did fit nicely in the slot for the film holders behind the screen. As with the front standard, I believe slots for the screws at 45° angle would help.
Conclusion: the camera currently has no competition both on weight and price point. Long time stability we cannot say but as Justin Lowery (www.lowerylandscapes.com) put it: for one VDS one can buy almost four Intrepids, and see what excellent pictures he took with that very basic camera. Basically it just works and one can get around its' quirks, even though there are many! The extra money can be spend on film or lenses.
Best Regards,
Rolf
rlfsoso.tumblr.com/
Hi! Thanks for the critique! I did go more in-depth in my written review over at Fstoppers, covering movements and such, but I can definitely understand your problems with the video. My issues with the camera are not that it can't get the job done, but that there are currently better built options out there that can be had for slightly more money. Intrepid may be sending me a version 2 of the camera to review as well, but even they acknowledged a lot of the problems the V1 had. Thanks for reading and your thoughtful critiques!
Hi Hans, fair enough, I will read up on fstoppers what you have to say. Still, the Intrepid is better than what you summarize, and at a fair prize for its' features and capabilities. R.
Did you consider sanding or waxing the moving parts on the intrepid? I just got mine (Mk1) and was wondering if I should improving the finish to make the movements smoother.
yep, I did wachs the slots (actually I wachsed the screw and moved it through the slot(s) until worked better. This also widens the slot just a bit. R.
rlfsoso I just received the 2nd version from Intrepid and I'll be addressing a lot of the differences in a new review. I'll be taking the camera out tonight to use exclusively in a full shoot, so I'll be more in depth this time. Critique noted and thank you for watching!
Nice, and informative exchange between video author and comment section!
I got mine , the mk4 version and the ground glass is very dark. Hard to use if you are near sighted like me.
the Shen Hao is a knock off of which camera? I've been looking at them but now I'm interested in know what it's copying. is it a copy of Deardorff?
Grant I believe it’s a copy of Ebony style cameras
@@HansRosemond ah interesting! I've been looking at Shen Hao and Tachihara large format cameras for some time. Even though the Shen Hao is a copy like you say (and which I had a good feeling it was since it's from China lol) the quality looks great and I've heard other youtubers mention good things about them as well. Thanks for the info!
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM with the MK1 is nothing you mentioned. It's the tripod mount. Mine stripped out on day 3. I replaced the screws with some larger ones and that sussed it out, but yeah.. other than that, none of the problems youve mentioned are ones I find problematic, honestly. Yeah, is it as nice as a shenhao or anything else? No.. but it was 150 and weighs nothing. I've shot dozens and dozens of photos in mine and so far I am pretty impressed for what it is.
Doesn’t your back swing on your shen hao grind?
Pretty fair review. Would be a nearly perfect back pack camera, but needs to be disassembled and wood refinished. Raw edge on plywood is very distasteful. The newer generations look a little better. Still, as a lightweight backpack camera platform for modification, it has no competitor except perhaps a 120 roll film panorama camera. Since it only takes such a small amount of wood, for an additional $20 they could have used teak or mahogany or cherry; or at least seal the edge with epoxy. Even at the low price of the camera, their profit margin is still quite high considering its cheapness to produce. Its like "build it as cheaply as possible" is their mantra even though minor upgrade on materials and finish would not cost much, but make a big difference in final quality perceived. Its built cheap first and lightweight is just a handy consequence.
In the meantime I will still schlepp the ShenHao.
I have one coming in the next week or two, its their "upgraded" version which supposedly addresses a lot of these concerns. I'll let you know what its like! Its also ~$50 more than the original.
Sorry you didn't enjoy the camera. I have been using my Gen 1 for over a year and have used it for two separate projects now so I thought I might provide a comment or two.
After a year of shoving it into, and pulling it out of my backpack over the last year, I suspect that the pretty finish on your Shen Hao would have been trashed. Since the Intrepid uses a very simple finish I can easily put a little linseed oil on my camera from time to time and quickly renew the finish. Renewing the finish on the Shen Hao may take a little more effort.
After some honest time in the field actually photographing with the camera you do get much quicker using it and the camera movements do smooth out a quite a bit. Now I absolutely love its simplicity. Though nowhere near as sophisticated as my Deardorff, for the life of me I just can't see the difference in my photographs.
Everyone uses large format cameras for different reasons. My Intrepid was purchased to carry into the mountains and take photographs. I suspect that my total kit weight, including film, lens, holders and tripod, is lighter then that Shen Hao on its own. As for stability, it has worked quite well in some stiff mountain winds as long as I weight down my tripod a bit.
Daniel Stevenson I actually just received the V.2 from Intrepid and I'll be doing an in depth review of it. just setting it up once I can see a vast improvement. I'll be shooting with it tonight
Seems a somewhat odd comparison, the Shen Hao is 4x the cost, and 3x the weight, the Intrepid can also be set up in seconds too. I sure know what I'd rather take on a hike. Mine focusses surprisingly smooth btw, maybe I got something in-between a V1 and V2.
J Andrews the shen hao is only included so that new users can compare a middle of the road camera to the Intrepid as an entry level option. I think a lot of the market for this camera doesn't have much of a baseline to compare. the camera is certainly a good value, and weighs much less than the Shen. But bystanders the time you add a couple lenses, holders, ,filters, the pack itself, water...well that extra few pounds becomes less and less important. More and more the reliability and usability becomes the primary focus. I really hope to review successive models as I'm sure they'll improve.
I saw the video and the comment i know that some features requires to work with the camera a little bit longer but i consider that is the best option to start using view cameras i mean later you can invest in something more expensive but to start right the secong and go for some pictures in this format i think is pretty ok you sounded picky but it is totally fine you are comparing so camperisons sometimes are not fair but it is what it is, anyways thank you for the review.
Thank you for the review. I was thinking about one of these as a lightweight backpacking camera, but I think there are too many negatives to get the sole positive of the light weight.
I hear ya! As soon as I get version 2 in my hands I'll be sure and review it as well. I hope they've improved some features.
I think you totally missed the point of the fact that it is supposed to be an introduction to large format. It's like saying to not get the Nikon d3xxx, d5xxx and d7xxx series of DSLRs to beginners and just go straight for a d850
James Lane Actually, no I didn’t at all. There’s a difference between having a functional camera that has less features and a camera that barely functions. I’m the first one to point beginners in the direction of a camera that’s old or has less features. However, a large format camera that is difficult to focus and stay in focus isn’t one that will inspire growth. This is especially evident because of how much of an improvement the second version is over this one. I highly recommend the V2 Intrepid. This one just didn’t cut it.
I almost mistook your Shen to be an Ebony. Nevertheless, great looking camera.
For the price, expecting to not have to massage it a bit is crazy. I do agree however, agree one is much better served buying used with vastly better hardware and design.
Comparing apples and oranges. Tell Intrepid to make you a $1,000 camera and you will get a better one. I expect to work on mine doing extra work on the wood and other details that I Can do.
Mate I swear you're just nitpicking problems. The Intrepid is just £250 new, while the Shen Hao is over £800. There's a saying that everyone should follow: you get what you pay for. Review it based on the price and what other cameras can you get at that price. What? I didn't get that?! Oh yeah, that's right, that's the cheapest. Although having many problems, if you're a good photographer and you want to take a picture you will do it even with a box camera. Plus, they're marketing it as a starter's camera. No starter cares about quality in something. They want the cheapest they can find and that gives them something they can get experience on and then move on. So yet again, we get to the point of you get what you pay for.
They tried to skimp on quality to maximize profits and now they fucked up. No chance anyone would get the Intrepid.
That looped guitar 'almost' riff is incredibly annoying.
not to hammer a point that other people have made, but your review seems to say that i'd get a higher quality product if I paid 5 times the price.
Its a bit of a no shit moment to be honest.
you likened it to a self build project, So my question is immeiately; how does i compre to self build project cameras that you've encountered?
Matt Rogers The point of comparing it to the Shen Hao is not to say that the Intrepid should be as good. It shouldn’t. That’s would be a no shit statement. The point is to use the Shen, a mid-range camera, as a point of reference as to what someone who doesn’t know much about these cameras should look for in a camera. The first generation of Intrepid was lacking in many ways. So much so that the second version addressed nearly every complaint I (and many other reviewers) had about it. My conclusion was that for the same price one would be better off buying a used camera that would be more robust. Thanks for watching!
fair enough, maybe I was a little bit overly glib, and possibly you're right. if this is priced to be a beginner's LF camera then it maybe needs to sit in a place where it has limitations but is a bit more friendly to the beginner for it to have worth in that space. Rather than being something that's a bit of a headache to se up and get images out of.
Then again that puts you in speed graphic territory. which falls comfortaby into that "comes cheap but has limitations" bracket.
hmmmm... I've still not taken the plunge with an LF option to add to my arsenal of cameras (which is very mamiya heavy as it stands - including a 528 tl, a c33 and recently an RB67 without me really even noticing that it was happening) so I'm often tempted by some of these more budget friendly options to test the water with. I'm unlikely to go with an Interpid (certenly not an original v1) as I'm more tempted by either restoring older gear or doing a similar self build that going in for this with its limitations that you quite rightly pointed out.
You have my apologies though, I may have inadvertantly taken out a frustration on you about certain people within the photography world who use the "you're an idiot if you don't just spend the money and get the top of the line thing" argument a little too often. You aren't actually a culprit of this one you just reminded me of it a bit. So, again, sorry about that.
Matt Rogers no worries. And if you're looking to getting a LF camera I wholeheartedly recommend the 2nd version of the intrepid. Leaps and bounds better.
If you compare it to the digital world you'd get a lot more for your money in this price range.
You are right, if you want to trow $330 away, you can do it. It is a crappy camera.
Lol I got mine for 150 and it's awesome, but ok
The people who manage Fstoppers are particularly stupid. I followed a Google link to this review. but could see almost nothing of it because ,most pf ,my screen was obscured by the login and afs for stuff I don't want to see.
My sight is difficult, and I am using the accessibility features of Windows.
The ad panel is locked against scrolling, were that not so it would be merely annoying.
Hans Rosemont. Not "fernel" but fresnel. The Intrepid is a mediocre toy made of triplex, would not even want it for free.
I think it's pronounced Freh-NELL after the physicist. But, I'm not the best with French names.
Hans Rosemond. It is pronounced Fresnel.ruclips.net/video/ShOaPXFNknc/видео.html
Foxglove963: Sure, you can always trust a robot RUclips voice. Right? Try www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Fresnel , it's pronounced "frā-ˈnel" after the French physicist.