hoping that the rewards for at least 1 or 2 events this month contain Feesha parts to cut down that 35 days for T1-T2. The warp particle research for the 42+ players do help get you to better systems so the lower warp ones aren't as crowded.
the most important ferengi officer is arrocks then quark then cath its the best combo out there for the horizon with a freesha can use quark as captain
So, I have a t8, a t7 and can get a third to t7. I need 32K parts to get to t9. Opinions on whether or not I should kill all three or just wait to get to t9?
I don't believe you'll get the T9 refinery rewards for the old-style Latinum unless you go to T9 with one of your D'Vors first. So, I suppose it depends on how important getting the Feesha is versus getting the T9 goodies for normal Latinum.
Agreed. If you’re only 30 days out from t9 definitely stick it out. If you were 100 days out I’d say forget it hahaha but that close? Def. Go ahead and knock out t9 I think. Your fish tank will be with you very soon. Maybe sooner than 30 if you get lucky with cosmic cleanup? And lucky with a latinum refinery draw?
The ship should have had a starting warp equal to the lowest system where you can mine concentrated. i don't accept having to add officers or disco. it's not good enough scoplay. it's pety and stupid and should not have happened
man the grind on the previous ship the dvor is a nightmare at least with the freesha the voyager can help out why its good to camp at ops34 till a ARC event store comes and get the voyager same as ops33 camp for a arc event store to get a mantis only real way to finish off a dvor is through a arc event store but most off the time you will have other priorities best wait till there is a arc event store that has officers you have no interest in thats best time to get the dvor parts
my dvor needs about 200k parts to tier up and im considering just getting the dvor to lv40 then scrap it and get the rest of the freesha BPS in a arc event store still debating it
Realistically speaking Scopley is going to have to introduce a parts efficiency bonus for the Dvor similar to that of the Franklin, as 500k parts, at even a 1000 a day is beyond unreasonable. They will of course want to recoup the cost, so I don't expect this to happen until pack sales take a fall.
i FULLY expect a prime research, as the original dvor had, or a skin for improved/increased refining like meridian. we're in month 1 of this feature. like trait xp, syndicate xp, and even meridian parts and skins, i fully expect sourcing for this to improve over time. but as always it's a sloooooooooow grind to start. emphasis on "grind" since the ship DOES NOT cost unless you wanna speed your progression.
At the moment, very badly They did not finished the rework of mining monday yet - the developers asked for a little bit of patients until it gets integrated
Ghrush as Captain, 3 of 11, and T'Pring gets me 38,774 Concentrated Latinum per hour in Quv Qeb. DJ may have provided this information in this video, but I didn't catch it if he did. He noted 1000 Latinum or 1500 (Prime Refine) for the old-school Latinum refinery per day. True. I get 1500 a day, but it's with a Tier 9 refinery. Hence, if you scrap multiple D'Vors that are not T9 yet, you won't get that 1000 Latinum per day. At least I think you won't. I never did until I hit T9. So, I would recommend just tiering your first D'Vor to T9 and keep a second on hand so you can continue to mine both Latinum types in style.
It’s 1050 with prime at t8. But if you’re months away from t9, I still find it to be worth it. Cause the sooner I can start double refines of CLat, the sooner I start getting 2k per day. I may lost 450 up top, but I’m gaining 2k on feesha. Net positive 1550 lat per day.
@@UltimatDJzPlayz right after i started recommending DJ's vids in my alliance he decides to become captain bad advice. gl getting maxed dvor to t9 from zero to get maxed refinery, that takes you more than a year f2p. scraping two t8 dvors is a big nono
@@DENVERSTONER hehe, NOT necessarily. it REALLY really depends on a couple of factors. a.) do you have enough raw latinum to last you awhile? b.) do you compete in latinum mining monday? c.) how many more parts are needed for t9? the reason these are factors is because time is of course a factor. BUT. presming you have the lat refinery, NON prime, a double pull gets you 700 latinum at t8. at t9 it's only 1000. 300 you'd be missing out on IF you don' take it to t9. BUUUUUT the feesha refinery doesn't matter for the original dvor. so getting the feesha and starting on CLat refinery yields you 2k a day at t1, out of a double pull. so even sacrificing the 300 lat, still gets you 2k. a net positive of 1700 lat starting right now. NOW of course, if you're 5, 10, maybe even 20 days away from t9? sure, maybe you stick it out. if you're still 200k parts short, NO WAY i'd wait. scrap the t8's, and start my 1700 net gain now. further, 25 days (roughly) gets you to t2 on the feesha. now you make 2300, and 300 you gain makes up the shortfall from the t9 refinery. lastly, i mention having a big raw latinum bank (original). you STILL continue to refine, so 700 lat a day (non prime) AND parts. so if you had sayyyyy, 20 mil raw, that's enough for roughly 74 days of refining out of the original refinery without mining a drop. enough time for you to take a new baby dvor up a few tiers. yes, it will mine original lat a shade slower, BUT, the reearch is the big factor there. it would not be difficult at all even with a t4 dvor to mine 270k lat. it's a matter of timing, and net benefit. ps. we DO appreciate you recommending our videos! as mentioned many times, both on air and in this video, it IS a matter of personal perspective, and length needed for t9, so there is a choice to make. but there is definitely a mathematical reason you'd wanna scrap the t8's depending on the number of parts still needed for t9, and your raw latinum bank.
@@UltimatDJzPlayz i have a naked t8 so from your vid and this response what should i do? get another one to t8 and scrap both? instead of maxing main dvor to t9 for exactly same cost? and delay maxing dvor refinery by a year? or maybe stick to my old dvor till maxed (probably through event store as dvor parts were in the last one for very low price) and mine some new lat with horizon and new officers? (check Rev's research on mining speeds feesha vs horizon for players that cannot upgrade feesha past t4) even if for some reason someone has 2 t8 (why would anyone take second to t8 before maxing first?) it still looks like a poor choice compared to mining some new lat with horizon till you get your t9 and do a proper scrap while getting a maxed refinery and a spare dvor to keep using
@@DENVERSTONER i guess that depends on the status of your second dvor. IF you don't even have a second one built, oh ABSOLUTELY, grind t9. it's 255k parts to t9. and it's 250k parts from base t1 to t8. and this now demonstrates your perspective perfectly. ABSOLUTELY may as well push to t9. it doesn't save you anytime at all. however, many players may have a partial progress on a second one. after research was introduced, people started working on MULTIPLE ships cause the tier mattered very little with the new research. it was FASTER to have 3x t6's than it was to have 1 t9 for example. and cheaper. so that's why people started on that. from THEIR perspective, 2 t8's is a faster path for a minimal loss in lat. in your case? you're saving only 5 DAYS, so yes. absolutely go to t9. hands down.
I am not really happy with the new D'Vor Feesha... > *Warp Range Problem* ==> Covered in the Video on my Server even with warp 40 the Feesha you can only reach 6 Systems and ALL of them are PACKED with Horizons, Antaris, K'Vort or Valkis Freighter its very hard to catch a free node in the first place > *Overall Cargo /protected Cargo Problem* = very limited Total Cargo and TINY protected Cargo .... even with the best Protected Cargo Trio > T'Pring + 3of11 + DuPont you don´t get much protection and this causes you to fly back and forth , back and forth and use a second Drydock ship just to block the mining node _[ the 2 Chest Refine will take me 2 hours each day ]_ > *Weapon Problem* Weapon type: Kinetic Firing Pattern: one shot every other round Why Scoply "why" didn´t you changed the Weapon to energy and let it fire every round? There is a very nice ship design with a great looking Mining Laser which could ne for both mining and fighting > *Ship Bonus Stats Problem* The D'Vor Feesha needs 18.000 Attack for = = + 350% dmg 18.000 Defense for = a tiny Defense Bonus 18.000 Health for = = more hull and shield points - here another *"why?"* does a Miner need more Crew stats than a Franklin A or a Vi'dar or a I.S.S. Jellyfish B U T !! I will fight through it, because of the Latinum I am pretty the Feesha will improve over time But... the first impression of the ship is just terrible
If they just made it work with both regular lat and clat, maybe have it be as good as a T9 Dvor at tier 4/5 and much faster above that, people would be mostly happy. Also, have the research apply to Feesha, at least for regular lat.
200mil isn’t necessary, BUT a nice large stockpile. It’s ROUGHLY 1 mil lasts for four days. So what, 6 months maybe? So 40-50 mil or so? The idea is that you wannna keep refining double and getting the parts while not having to mine it. So you have time to upgrade your new one to a usable level
Oh yeah, so happy to have more mining, NOT!!! I'm having trouble getting to 4* resource systems to do the required dailies with a tier 9, level 45 Horizon. Matter of fact, I haven't found any 4* resources outside of territories and I don't think I can reach them even if I sacrifice protected cargo by putting Cadet Scotty on the bridge. And then the new miner doesn't have the warp range to get to the one system I don't have to send a warship in to get the assassins off it's tail.
I would not scrap all my normal dvors to get the Feesha. Its slow mind numbing grind to tier it as much as the OG Dvor before the lat research. I would trade my Freesha back for my T9 D'vor if they would let me.
mmmmmmmmmmmm i dunno. the feesha refinery double output is the goal. and no matter how you break it down, the NET gain is a positive number with the feesha. it REALLY really depends on a couple of factors. a.) do you have enough raw latinum to last you awhile? b.) do you compete in latinum mining monday? c.) how many more parts are needed for t9? the reason these are factors is because time is of course a factor. BUT. presuming you have the lat refinery, NON prime, a double pull gets you 700 latinum at t8. at t9 it's only 1000. 300 you'd be missing out on IF you don' take it to t9. BUUUUUT the feesha refinery doesn't matter for the original dvor. so getting the feesha and starting on CLat refinery yields you 2k a day at t1, out of a double pull. so even sacrificing the 300 lat, still gets you 2k. a net positive of 1700 lat starting right now. NOW of course, if you're 5, 10, maybe even 20 days away from t9? sure, maybe you stick it out. if you're still 200k parts short, NO WAY i'd wait. scrap the t8's, and start my 1700 net gain now. further, 25 days (roughly) gets you to t2 on the feesha. now you make 2300, and 300 you gain makes up the shortfall from the t9 refinery. lastly, i mention having a big raw latinum bank (original). you STILL continue to refine, so 700 lat a day (non prime) AND parts. so if you had sayyyyy, 20 mil raw, that's enough for roughly 74 days of refining out of the original refinery without mining a drop. enough time for you to take a new baby dvor up a few tiers. yes, it will mine original lat a shade slower, BUT, the reearch is the big factor there. it would not be difficult at all even with a t4 dvor to mine 270k lat. it's a matter of timing, and net benefit, as well as personal perspective, so there is a choice to make. but there is definitely a mathematical reason you're better off with your feesha, even if the gut reaction is still sour (which i agree with lol, i'm HATING this arc, BUT, mathematically, and if latinum is important to you, here are the facts. i dont wanna be biased just cause i dont like it)
I know they are still adjusting rules of acquisition that took the place of Rush Monday but reducing regular Latinum to one point come on guys this is ridiculous it’s always been worth five points and it was balanced with other materials mined. Making New Latinum 10 points was great it should be double regular Latinum but reducing regular Latinum to one point needs to be adjusted back to five this has totally unbalanced the event. Or the new concentrated Latinum needs to be increased to be equal to 3G materials 15 points instead of 10.
2 tier 7 dvors here...Only 150 days of double pull latium refinery before I can unlock the "freezer"... well at least I can go for the "Big mama"... oh wait.. thats also not aviable for f2p yet... well maybe I can unlock an extra Dock.. wait.. also pay only? And what about an extra researcher?..also..no f2p? Ok.. 2nd builder then?... also no? Wait, yall sure this game is playable for free to play?? Doesn't sound like it...
WHILE i agree with your gut reaction sentiment, it's probably not miniscule, depending on your ops. early math (and assuming averages from the RNG) indicates 70 days to t2, and 90 days to t3. these sound really really high, BUT, consider this, for a f2p, within 5 months ISH (assuming a FEW lucky draws in there) a t3feesha, plus a t8 original dvor, would yield (non prime lat refinery) 100k latinum a month.... which is not really small, not for a f2p especially. if you have the t9 non prime original lat refinery, 70 days from now, with a t2 feesha, you'd be able to draw 100k lat a month. with a t8 PRIME lat refinery and a t2 feesha, 70 days from now, you'd be drawing 100k lat a month. 70 days is an estimate, and could be a little lower if you have a little luck with the refinery regarding parts.
@@UltimatDJzPlayz better than i expected with lat payouts, sure. And that's great for f2p.. but I can get 100k lat usually in one or two packs while not spending an absorbent amount of time grinding another element of the game. But f2p all day
@@highwayempire1 I agree. early tiers of feesha are gonna require upwards of 3 hours of mining for a double refine, and why the arrock crew will be useful still, cause it will reduce that time to just shy of 2 hours. saving you roughly 50% net time. or in the case of our CLat mining calculator (now published on our site) could maybe help faster with a second ship, such as horizon or g3 faction ship, with the arrock crew. crazy enough, with a maxed g3 antares, and full synergy arrock crew, you could do your double refine in LESS than an hour. which (low key) proves we have more efficiencies coming, either in mining speed, primes, research, skins, etc etc.
Thanks for the Vid DJ, you the man 😎👍 TNT’s Assassin
hoping that the rewards for at least 1 or 2 events this month contain Feesha parts to cut down that 35 days for T1-T2. The warp particle research for the 42+ players do help get you to better systems so the lower warp ones aren't as crowded.
Oh the old times of 1y for a Dvor!
the most important ferengi officer is arrocks then quark then cath its the best combo out there for the horizon with a freesha can use quark as captain
They put my pvp area in a place where my warp 75 disco cannot reach unless I put Scotty on. Very expensive for little reward
So, I have a t8, a t7 and can get a third to t7. I need 32K parts to get to t9. Opinions on whether or not I should kill all three or just wait to get to t9?
I don't believe you'll get the T9 refinery rewards for the old-style Latinum unless you go to T9 with one of your D'Vors first. So, I suppose it depends on how important getting the Feesha is versus getting the T9 goodies for normal Latinum.
I would recommend you wait. You'll regret not have any OG D'Vor available.
@@DanielVanDerWerken Go T9 to unlock the refinery. The Feesha is total garbage right now unless they do some tweaking to make it useful.
Wait until you get t9 first for refinery issues. Dont hinder your original refinery progress
Agreed. If you’re only 30 days out from t9 definitely stick it out. If you were 100 days out I’d say forget it hahaha but that close? Def. Go ahead and knock out t9 I think. Your fish tank will be with you very soon. Maybe sooner than 30 if you get lucky with cosmic cleanup? And lucky with a latinum refinery draw?
The ship should have had a starting warp equal to the lowest system where you can mine concentrated. i don't accept having to add officers or disco. it's not good enough scoplay. it's pety and stupid and should not have happened
Ghrush's and the Feesha's designs are not coincidental.
Initially I moved my station to Wolf and mined the concentrated latinum in this system
I'm level 33 and can't scrap a D'vor yet.. I do have 3 of them. T8, T7,T7. Can't build a D'vor Feesha until 35.
Is it coincidence that Grush is wearing a necklace made of latinum? Hmmmm?
man the grind on the previous ship the dvor is a nightmare at least with the freesha the voyager can help out why its good to camp at ops34 till a ARC event store comes and get the voyager same as ops33 camp for a arc event store to get a mantis only real way to finish off a dvor is through a arc event store but most off the time you will have other priorities best wait till there is a arc event store that has officers you have no interest in thats best time to get the dvor parts
my dvor needs about 200k parts to tier up and im considering just getting the dvor to lv40 then scrap it and get the rest of the freesha BPS in a arc event store still debating it
Realistically speaking Scopley is going to have to introduce a parts efficiency bonus for the Dvor similar to that of the Franklin, as 500k parts, at even a 1000 a day is beyond unreasonable. They will of course want to recoup the cost, so I don't expect this to happen until pack sales take a fall.
i FULLY expect a prime research, as the original dvor had, or a skin for improved/increased refining like meridian. we're in month 1 of this feature. like trait xp, syndicate xp, and even meridian parts and skins, i fully expect sourcing for this to improve over time. but as always it's a sloooooooooow grind to start. emphasis on "grind" since the ship DOES NOT cost unless you wanna speed your progression.
Any clues how the Feesha will perform on Mining Mondays, in terms of points per hour for that event?
At the moment, very badly
They did not finished the rework of mining monday yet - the developers asked for a little bit of patients until it gets integrated
Ghrush as Captain, 3 of 11, and T'Pring gets me 38,774 Concentrated Latinum per hour in Quv Qeb.
DJ may have provided this information in this video, but I didn't catch it if he did. He noted 1000 Latinum or 1500 (Prime Refine) for the old-school Latinum refinery per day. True. I get 1500 a day, but it's with a Tier 9 refinery. Hence, if you scrap multiple D'Vors that are not T9 yet, you won't get that 1000 Latinum per day. At least I think you won't. I never did until I hit T9. So, I would recommend just tiering your first D'Vor to T9 and keep a second on hand so you can continue to mine both Latinum types in style.
It’s 1050 with prime at t8. But if you’re months away from t9, I still find it to be worth it. Cause the sooner I can start double refines of CLat, the sooner I start getting 2k per day. I may lost 450 up top, but I’m gaining 2k on feesha. Net positive 1550 lat per day.
@@UltimatDJzPlayz right after i started recommending DJ's vids in my alliance he decides to become captain bad advice. gl getting maxed dvor to t9 from zero to get maxed refinery, that takes you more than a year f2p. scraping two t8 dvors is a big nono
@@DENVERSTONER hehe, NOT necessarily. it REALLY really depends on a couple of factors. a.) do you have enough raw latinum to last you awhile? b.) do you compete in latinum mining monday? c.) how many more parts are needed for t9?
the reason these are factors is because time is of course a factor. BUT. presming you have the lat refinery, NON prime, a double pull gets you 700 latinum at t8. at t9 it's only 1000. 300 you'd be missing out on IF you don' take it to t9. BUUUUUT the feesha refinery doesn't matter for the original dvor. so getting the feesha and starting on CLat refinery yields you 2k a day at t1, out of a double pull. so even sacrificing the 300 lat, still gets you 2k. a net positive of 1700 lat starting right now.
NOW of course, if you're 5, 10, maybe even 20 days away from t9? sure, maybe you stick it out. if you're still 200k parts short, NO WAY i'd wait. scrap the t8's, and start my 1700 net gain now. further, 25 days (roughly) gets you to t2 on the feesha. now you make 2300, and 300 you gain makes up the shortfall from the t9 refinery.
lastly, i mention having a big raw latinum bank (original). you STILL continue to refine, so 700 lat a day (non prime) AND parts. so if you had sayyyyy, 20 mil raw, that's enough for roughly 74 days of refining out of the original refinery without mining a drop. enough time for you to take a new baby dvor up a few tiers. yes, it will mine original lat a shade slower, BUT, the reearch is the big factor there. it would not be difficult at all even with a t4 dvor to mine 270k lat.
it's a matter of timing, and net benefit.
ps. we DO appreciate you recommending our videos! as mentioned many times, both on air and in this video, it IS a matter of personal perspective, and length needed for t9, so there is a choice to make. but there is definitely a mathematical reason you'd wanna scrap the t8's depending on the number of parts still needed for t9, and your raw latinum bank.
@@UltimatDJzPlayz i have a naked t8 so from your vid and this response what should i do? get another one to t8 and scrap both? instead of maxing main dvor to t9 for exactly same cost? and delay maxing dvor refinery by a year? or maybe stick to my old dvor till maxed (probably through event store as dvor parts were in the last one for very low price) and mine some new lat with horizon and new officers? (check Rev's research on mining speeds feesha vs horizon for players that cannot upgrade feesha past t4)
even if for some reason someone has 2 t8 (why would anyone take second to t8 before maxing first?) it still looks like a poor choice compared to mining some new lat with horizon till you get your t9 and do a proper scrap while getting a maxed refinery and a spare dvor to keep using
@@DENVERSTONER i guess that depends on the status of your second dvor. IF you don't even have a second one built, oh ABSOLUTELY, grind t9. it's 255k parts to t9. and it's 250k parts from base t1 to t8. and this now demonstrates your perspective perfectly. ABSOLUTELY may as well push to t9. it doesn't save you anytime at all.
however, many players may have a partial progress on a second one. after research was introduced, people started working on MULTIPLE ships cause the tier mattered very little with the new research. it was FASTER to have 3x t6's than it was to have 1 t9 for example. and cheaper. so that's why people started on that. from THEIR perspective, 2 t8's is a faster path for a minimal loss in lat. in your case? you're saving only 5 DAYS, so yes. absolutely go to t9. hands down.
I am not really happy with the new D'Vor Feesha...
> *Warp Range Problem* ==> Covered in the Video
on my Server even with warp 40 the Feesha you can only reach 6 Systems
and ALL of them are PACKED with Horizons, Antaris, K'Vort or Valkis Freighter
its very hard to catch a free node in the first place
> *Overall Cargo /protected Cargo Problem*
= very limited Total Cargo and TINY protected Cargo ....
even with the best Protected Cargo Trio
> T'Pring + 3of11 + DuPont
you don´t get much protection and this causes you to fly back and forth ,
back and forth and use a second Drydock ship just to block the mining node
_[ the 2 Chest Refine will take me 2 hours each day ]_
> *Weapon Problem*
Weapon type: Kinetic
Firing Pattern: one shot every other round
Why Scoply "why" didn´t you changed the Weapon to energy and let it fire every round?
There is a very nice ship design with a great looking Mining Laser which could ne for both mining and fighting
> *Ship Bonus Stats Problem*
The D'Vor Feesha needs
18.000 Attack for = = + 350% dmg
18.000 Defense for = a tiny Defense Bonus
18.000 Health for = = more hull and shield points
- here another *"why?"* does a Miner need more Crew stats than a Franklin A or a Vi'dar or a I.S.S. Jellyfish
B U T !! I will fight through it, because of the Latinum
I am pretty the Feesha will improve over time
But... the first impression of the ship is just terrible
If they just made it work with both regular lat and clat, maybe have it be as good as a T9 Dvor at tier 4/5 and much faster above that, people would be mostly happy. Also, have the research apply to Feesha, at least for regular lat.
They did not think this arc out my pvp system could not be reached with our add warp rang to my disco
I didn't finish watching your video yet but I disco everywhere
Had to use my Discovery or Grhush and Cadet Scotty.
Week and a half from being able to build 2nd d'vor at ops 31...
if u have only 1 dvor t9 is worth scrapping that one or hold it to get part for another to reach t6 t7?
DJ suggested stockpiling 200M raw lat before you scrap your T9, that way you can keep refining and level up your replacement.
200mil isn’t necessary, BUT a nice large stockpile. It’s ROUGHLY 1 mil lasts for four days. So what, 6 months maybe? So 40-50 mil or so? The idea is that you wannna keep refining double and getting the parts while not having to mine it. So you have time to upgrade your new one to a usable level
But yes. I’d scrap your t9 as soon as you had even a decent amount of lat in the bank
After scrap max tier dvor. We still need another dvor to mining original latinum node. Lucky for player who has 2-3 dvor before this arc. 😁
It's not luck. I had 5, one at t9 which is now my Feesha. This is strategy and it has worked in my favor. Luck had nothing to do with it.
Oh yeah, so happy to have more mining, NOT!!! I'm having trouble getting to 4* resource systems to do the required dailies with a tier 9, level 45 Horizon. Matter of fact, I haven't found any 4* resources outside of territories and I don't think I can reach them even if I sacrifice protected cargo by putting Cadet Scotty on the bridge. And then the new miner doesn't have the warp range to get to the one system I don't have to send a warship in to get the assassins off it's tail.
Use the discovery to get deeper
I would not scrap all my normal dvors to get the Feesha. Its slow mind numbing grind to tier it as much as the OG Dvor before the lat research. I would trade my Freesha back for my T9 D'vor if they would let me.
mmmmmmmmmmmm i dunno. the feesha refinery double output is the goal. and no matter how you break it down, the NET gain is a positive number with the feesha. it REALLY really depends on a couple of factors. a.) do you have enough raw latinum to last you awhile? b.) do you compete in latinum mining monday? c.) how many more parts are needed for t9?
the reason these are factors is because time is of course a factor. BUT. presuming you have the lat refinery, NON prime, a double pull gets you 700 latinum at t8. at t9 it's only 1000. 300 you'd be missing out on IF you don' take it to t9. BUUUUUT the feesha refinery doesn't matter for the original dvor. so getting the feesha and starting on CLat refinery yields you 2k a day at t1, out of a double pull. so even sacrificing the 300 lat, still gets you 2k. a net positive of 1700 lat starting right now.
NOW of course, if you're 5, 10, maybe even 20 days away from t9? sure, maybe you stick it out. if you're still 200k parts short, NO WAY i'd wait. scrap the t8's, and start my 1700 net gain now. further, 25 days (roughly) gets you to t2 on the feesha. now you make 2300, and 300 you gain makes up the shortfall from the t9 refinery.
lastly, i mention having a big raw latinum bank (original). you STILL continue to refine, so 700 lat a day (non prime) AND parts. so if you had sayyyyy, 20 mil raw, that's enough for roughly 74 days of refining out of the original refinery without mining a drop. enough time for you to take a new baby dvor up a few tiers. yes, it will mine original lat a shade slower, BUT, the reearch is the big factor there. it would not be difficult at all even with a t4 dvor to mine 270k lat.
it's a matter of timing, and net benefit, as well as personal perspective, so there is a choice to make. but there is definitely a mathematical reason you're better off with your feesha, even if the gut reaction is still sour (which i agree with lol, i'm HATING this arc, BUT, mathematically, and if latinum is important to you, here are the facts. i dont wanna be biased just cause i dont like it)
It looks like Cosmic cleanup had value for u too. This is how i was able to finish dvor. We have cosmic cleanup for long time now
In Cosmic Cleanup you have a chance of getting parts for dvor but no guarantee which is what we need..
I know, but still i was able to get like 6k extra per month/arc. This took me to t9 on time...
Aaaahahaha, look at those borders :)
I know they are still adjusting rules of acquisition that took the place of Rush Monday but reducing regular Latinum to one point come on guys this is ridiculous it’s always been worth five points and it was balanced with other materials mined. Making New Latinum 10 points was great it should be double regular Latinum but reducing regular Latinum to one point needs to be adjusted back to five this has totally unbalanced the event. Or the new concentrated Latinum needs to be increased to be equal to 3G materials 15 points instead of 10.
2 tier 7 dvors here...Only 150 days of double pull latium refinery before I can unlock the "freezer"... well at least I can go for the "Big mama"... oh wait.. thats also not aviable for f2p yet... well maybe I can unlock an extra Dock.. wait.. also pay only? And what about an extra researcher?..also..no f2p? Ok.. 2nd builder then?... also no? Wait, yall sure this game is playable for free to play?? Doesn't sound like it...
You are saying the ship name wrong...it's a Scopely joke. It's the Fees Ha. The gonna cost you fees ship.
commenting for algorithm...not the ship...RUclips... lol
Not getting this ship. It serves 0 purpose other than a minuscule amount of latinum.
WHILE i agree with your gut reaction sentiment, it's probably not miniscule, depending on your ops. early math (and assuming averages from the RNG) indicates 70 days to t2, and 90 days to t3. these sound really really high, BUT, consider this, for a f2p, within 5 months ISH (assuming a FEW lucky draws in there) a t3feesha, plus a t8 original dvor, would yield (non prime lat refinery) 100k latinum a month.... which is not really small, not for a f2p especially.
if you have the t9 non prime original lat refinery, 70 days from now, with a t2 feesha, you'd be able to draw 100k lat a month.
with a t8 PRIME lat refinery and a t2 feesha, 70 days from now, you'd be drawing 100k lat a month.
70 days is an estimate, and could be a little lower if you have a little luck with the refinery regarding parts.
@@UltimatDJzPlayz better than i expected with lat payouts, sure. And that's great for f2p.. but I can get 100k lat usually in one or two packs while not spending an absorbent amount of time grinding another element of the game. But f2p all day
@@highwayempire1 I agree. early tiers of feesha are gonna require upwards of 3 hours of mining for a double refine, and why the arrock crew will be useful still, cause it will reduce that time to just shy of 2 hours. saving you roughly 50% net time.
or in the case of our CLat mining calculator (now published on our site) could maybe help faster with a second ship, such as horizon or g3 faction ship, with the arrock crew. crazy enough, with a maxed g3 antares, and full synergy arrock crew, you could do your double refine in LESS than an hour. which (low key) proves we have more efficiencies coming, either in mining speed, primes, research, skins, etc etc.
Discovery.