MOSS MOORE: The Unsolved Irish Murder COLD CASE
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Dan Foley and Maurice ‘Moss’ Moore were neighbours and friends in Reamore, about 26 kilometres from Listowel Town, County Kerry, Ireland. Moore was 12 years younger, a bachelor living alone with two dogs for company; Foley lived with his wife and her brother. Their houses were separated by just 90 metres. As farmers with small holdings in a tight-knit community, they worked together cutting turf and harvesting hay. The pair would meet daily at the local creamery and also played cards with each other in the evenings with other friends.
Dan Foley worried his cattle were wandering away from his house towards the bog, and concerned about welfare of his livestock on such ground, he put down a boundary fence along the sliver of land between his land and Moore’s. However, Moore felt the fence was encroaching on his land so he decided to moved it. Foley, likewise, moved it straight back to where he had first placed it. Moore eventually took a court action so the fence would be moved back indefinitely. The feud between former friends lasted from mid-1957 to late-1958.
Their case was to be heard in a Tralee district courtroom in December 1958. Foley, it was claimed, said to a neighbour there would only be one man around for the case. On Thursday, November 6th, 1958, Moore disappeared after a night playing cards in a neighbour’s house.
Locals soon reported to the gardaí that Moore wasn’t just missing, but that he had been murdered by someone, and they suspected who it was.
By 1965, Irish playwright John B Keane had his stage premiere of ‘The Field’ in 1965 - directed by Barry Cassin and starring Ray McAnally as The Bull McCabe. The Listowel playwright drew inspiration for the play from the unsolved murder case of Moss Moore.
The fallout from the cold case still resonates more than 60 years later in Irish culture.
This is our Radio Espial Special - The Unsolved Murder of Moss Moore - with extracts from ‘The Real Field’, a documentary made and narrated by Billy Keane.
[Please note that I have not included all parts of the original Billy Keane documentary because I wanted this special to focus more on the events of the murder itself than the included reflections, cinematic extracts, and discussions of the later stage play and film adaptions.]
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One of Ireland's longest running murder cold cases. A case that would inspire the idea for a stage play and later movie. Yet, many still don't know the real story behind it. This is the cold case of Moss Moore, and a murder believed to have started with a land ownership dispute between neighbours in County Kerry, Ireland in the late 1950s.
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Im only half way through this very insightful video. Im 79. When my father was a young boy a terrible murder took place in our local bog"The great bog of Ardee". The farmer and his son were both killed. Earlier in the day the farmer had sold cattle. I forget the finer details now but the motive was robbery and victims and killers knew each other. Very sad. Great deal of suffering ensued. Lord have mercy on all .🙏
So sad for both families involved. I did love seeing the countryside and the beautiful Irish accents and I hope one day to visit. Very interesting
Beautiful countryside. You will enjoy. But do it in the summer!
This came up in my feed today, I subbed straight away! I love anything Irish, my mum was from Cork. Thank you
Thank you, Janice. You are very welcome to the channel.
May The Souls of Moss and Dan
Rest In Peace ✝️
I’ve seen enough family disputes over land and property here in Ireland, more than you could shake a stick at. From poison pen letters (yes really) to the horror of someone deliberately saying the wrong decade of the rosary at a wake 😮 don’t ever underestimate the pure rage that can erupt over land, from people you wouldn’t ever expect
May I ask ( non Catholic ) what do you mean regarding the wrong decade of the rosary ?
@@99fruitbat94 there are prayers for the dead, for the sick, also prayers of joy. So in the decades of the rosary, you pray for whichever is appropriate at that time.
A fair and accurate comment concerning such things which are deeply embedded in the Irish Catholic psychic. I witnessed madness, unbelievable anger and hatred which persist to this day.
Thank you for your reply . Appreciated .❤️
Still going on in some parts all over scrub land
Foley had scratches all over his face from a row with a bull 🤣 pile a dung. New subscriber👍🏻
nothing funny about being wrongfully accused of a grievous murder, of a crime you didn’t commit.
@@freedomunltdYou are correct on that! Unfortunately, there are many wrong convictions handed down including death sentences carried out. The law is woefully inadequate in dealing with certain types of cases.
@@johnphelan8300 100% - and where governments are actually really run and controlled by Corporate entities with politicians merely paid-for puppets as is the case today in Ireland, the UK, the US and the EU where basic freedoms and human rights are under threat, wrongful or trumped-up charges will become increasingly the norm - not unless people realize what is happening and oppose such totalitarian control whereby merely to express an opinion is treated as a crime. I never knew before how suppressed and oppressed we Irish people were in the past, by not just the Catholic Church but also by the punitive represssion that ran through Irish society. To boycott a man from a shop or from the pub, to be treated with overt hostility by one’s neighbours and townfolk in rural Ireland, shut out from the daily routines of life, was grotesquely cruel - but they learnt it from the malicious, duplicituous tactics meted out over hundreds of years, from the colonizers who tried to degrade human beings into a state of degradation that was synonymous with the status of livestock
how do you know he didn't commit it? Commonsense says if course he did.
Excellent upload , i thoroughly enjoyed , brilliant storytellers . I had to subscribe straight away & eagerly await seeing more . 👏 .Sad to see 2 lives lost , hopefully one day there will be closure for John . A privilege to hear Billie Keane's voice . THE FIELD is one of Irelands Great Play's . Thank You again
Thank you, John. Much appreciate the subscribe. Plenty more to come.
Brillliantly researched and narrated story. It was , nothwithstanding it's gruesome content, thoroghly enjoyable to listen to. Wlll done!
Hi John, Yes, thoroughly agree, difficult story but brilliantly told.
So you enjoy tragedy, nothing brilliant about reporting and making money out of grief
@@kathleenkeane4364 so don't watch
@@tinaquinn9042 because I have a different opinion??your sad.
@@kathleenkeane4364 your the one that is pretty sad buzz along I'm trying to watch in peace
Great little doco. So sad that this murder hasn't been solved, I feel for everyone connected to this case.
Thanks for posting, cheers from Australia!☺
Thank you, Cammie.
Open and shut case. Foley.
"Great little doco' followed by greetings from Australia.. no shit sherlock 😂😂
(Thx for the giggle)
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I had never heard of this. Excellent upload. I could listen to those genuine accents all day. I don't know why we seem to be losing a lot of our regional accents.
So sad if this really did happen over what would seem trivial to outsiders. Somehow I don't think he would have robbed the money from the cattle sale. Maybe if he had lost his temper and murdered his friend in a fit of anger, I can't see him taking the money though.
Thank you.
The loss of local accents saddens me as well. I am from Louisiana, 20 years ago accents were so strong and unique, now thanks to the internet, social media, they are disappearing.
That is a very unlucky half Acre.
RtE Documentary on 1
did a fab podcast based
on this.
I do remember listening to that some years back.
Great episode, more like this please.
Thanks, Andy. I'll do my best.
You might be interested in this case, so.
ruclips.net/video/NXn3HsZ1xjM/видео.html
Thank you..... perfect presentation...
Glad you appreciated it.
All very sad over land when all anyone finishes up it is 7x 3
Very sad.
Thsnks for sharing this. I have to be honest I never heard of this. I wasn't a minute into it before I was getting the "Bull McCabe" off Dan Foley
Very much that vibe from the outset.
Me too.
@@olearyma57 I though the final feelings and words of Dan Foley's nephew at the end were telling. After all both families had went through, they were still steadfast in buying back ownership of 'the land'. I guess blood does run thicker than water. A very sad case when feuds can spiral out of control even after many years.
@@RadioEspial Yes. There is a strange haunted aspect to this mans entire demeanour. Also a total inability to look bald facts in the face and draw a reasoned , logical conclusion.
Card games and fences….both very dangerous ..
I remember watching a similar crime to this in Ireland on Netflix and the Gardai did exactly the same mistakes and contaminated the crime scene..I totally believe his neighbour murdered him it’s cut n dry to me..Border disputes can turn a mild man into a murderer for sure..Although tragic, take care now God Bless ❤🙏
Motive, Evidence for and against. F9ollow the money.Who benefits the most. Opportunity , alibi. Bank balances, since the crime. process of elimination. Did the accused have the opportunity ability and motive to carry out the crime.🧑⚖️⚖️
This isn't an unsolved murder in the true sense of the word ! it's blatantly obvious from day one that the entire village knew who the killer was as did the guardia , and just because they didn't have enough evidence to convict him didn't mean they had the wrong man ! when your in a fight for your life like the victim was who then succumbed to being throttled to death when your looking your killer in the eyes your last line of defence would be to scratch your killers face with your last ounce of breadth ! and even if there were any other suspects and you can eliminated them all because they wouldn't have had death scratches on both sides of their face so you would still be left with foley as the killer, incidentally ain't never seen a Farmer in my lifetime who had human scratches either side of his face that were inflicted by a Bull ! not to mention foley also had the means and the motive r.i p. Mr Moore ❤🙏
Indeed, Vinny. As I said to another commenter earlier today. I understand John Foley protesting the innocence of his uncle Dan. And John Foley at the end of this feature keeps intimating that he is adamant his uncle is innocent, yet throwing shade in someone else's direction. That's classic blind family loyalty and blood. I've seen it in several other cases I've covered. 'My son/daughter/father/mother [insert relative] would never do that.' I saw it in the Joe O'Reilly case with his family and friends - 'Joe would never do that.' It's a blind blood allegiance. I've seen it in other tragic cases - 'My [insert relative] would never take their own life and leave the family to deal with the aftermath.' And, yet, that is how the case turns out.
I don't know if John Foley has more information or evidence that someone else actually murdered Moss Moore. But this cautious - 'I can't say any more,' 'land is land,' 'I don't like seeing people wronged,' reminds me of that Irish 'cute hoorism' syndrome. He's absolutely adamant his uncle Dan is innocent. And, yet, without evidence and disclosure, he throws shade on the character of someone else in the locale, without naming them. It left me thinking: Wait, aren't you, John Foley, indulging in the same character smearing that you are so quick to point out as an injustice against your own uncle Dan?
Blood runs thicker than water.
My thought is, how does a bull scratch you on both side of your face? Don't bulls try to crush you with their head, against the ground or barn or what ever? Bulls don't claw at you like a cat or bear would.
Totally agree there’s no mystery here, he got old after out of guilt because I’m sure he felt guilty about what had happened..
Good informative special again Mick. Awful tragic story and a gruesome end for poor Moss Moore. Heavy circumstantial evidence against Dan Foley for Moss Moore's murder but hard to know. I wouldn't read into Moore's card winnings - 110 is not a gambling game, but a tricks game based on 45/25/Spoil Five so would not have been high rolling.
Whether Foley was guilty or not, Mrs. Foley and her brother get forgotten. They were not involved and could have been killed/injured/blinded by those attacks. There can be a faceless dark, malicious side to Irish society. Growing up in a rural area, obviously on a much smaller scale I remember two very decent, honourable neighbours being reported for tax evasion by some faceless, spineless neighbours, you just don't know what some people will pull on the sly.
Some commenters should do more homework. John B. Keane was a talented playwright who shared insights into Irish society and behaviour in general and didn't write The Field to capitalize on tragedy. The Field is not "The Moss Moore and Dan Foley Story" or closely based on it, but a different, fictional story inspired by it with some similar incidents rearranged and set in the same location/time/society. Furthermore, having studied it in school I can't see how it glamorized anything with poverty, fanaticism, humour, violence, sordidness, despair, and ultimately tragedy all being elements - not glamorous and no fairy tale, much of it is pretty heavy actually.
Good to learn the background here, thanks for preparing and sharing this. RIP Moss Moore.
Thanks Brian.
Innocent till proven guilty by the law. A tragic tale, over the value of land in the minds of people. Sad to see how the boycott may have worn down and destroyed Mr. Foley.
Folks now gone were from nearby Listowel one a native the other a 'blow in' as they say. But spent his informative years in and around Listowel in the 30s/40s. Heard of stories and feuds in pasting include this one. Some apparently generational. But a well produced and presented documentary, looking forward to the other tragic tales, some of which I remember,
of course Foley did it, who are you trying to fool? lol
The scratches on the face is what I can’t get over. I feel that would’ve occurred while he was strangling his one time friend.
It’s hard to believe his story on how he received those facial scratches.
Agree, Vanessa. A bull seemed far fetched for scratches on both sides of the face.
They need to look into the card game and if he won any money that night.
Good point, David. There is a link in the comments where there is info of where and whom Moss was with for the card game.
All had go
It's disgraceful that a play was written about it, especially when nobody was convicted of the murder.
Spot on Bridie, money, money, no thought of who was going to be hurt for generations.
What feckin crime scene could survive 8 days of weather down there and what sort of forensics could they have relied on in the 1950s of Ireland? Come on to be fecked.
It isn't just age of a case and evidence collection. It's often lack of awareness and preservation of physical evidence.
" Land is Land " says the Nephew, there in lies the answer, he didn't lick that beleif off the ground , and his family want him to keep quiet , boys oh boys , that lad is a reincarnation of his uncle in denial , he has allowed the whole horror to take on a life of its own and woe betide anyone who might have another opinion.
That final interview was 'troubling' and suggested family instincts have not changed over many decades.
@@RadioEspial Families who are hiding nasty stuff never change , they just breed new members to carry the sledgehammer of denial and their whole existence is shaped around their mission of believing their own sick reality.
That comment from the nephew seems to indicate he knows who done it😮
@@margaretdunne1765 It left me wondering if this was a distraction from his uncle or did he know more about the events of that night. But it also reminds me of cases when two suspects are interviewed for the same crime, and both claim innocence, but blame the other.
@@margaretdunne1765Correct and right! Of course he knows and so do others.
I think the opening words of a man was killed for it, a passage way to a bog, was very apt ! So sad ! Was it worth it, a man killed brutally NO ! I feel imo that Foley knew something about this murder. No proof so the cold case was born! In the end only misery for all concerned, spoiling all life's. Thanks for this interesting story i never did hear of it. The ruins of the house seemed sadly desolate, i wonder if many folk has visited this ruin like explorers of YT community.
Thank you Anna. I don't think there is much left of the Moss Moore house to see, just the remaining outer walls of the cottage.
Where did his cattle money go? Did anyone suddenly leave the parish?
I can't speak to money he had from the cattle before the murder, but he was pretty much shunned after it. So he would have had very little income coming in.
Moore Irish back ground on my family in Indiana we live ❤
Who claimed he said only one man would show up for court case.Was it the same man who led the boycott. What happened to the money from the cattle sale.
It was Moss Moore himself who reported the stalking and final threat [by Foley] to local garda Paddy Kavanagh by phone, three days before his murder - that only one man would be showing up in court.
At the end of the day all we have is the land its the land we come from and the land we go back to a land worth living for and a land worth dying for.
I would like to believe we all grow up and realise that life is a little more than the land, ownership and possessions. But maybe that is just me.
@@RadioEspialwere only passing through we die and they dig a hole for us thats about it,but the land remains😉
Once I saw Billy Keane, I'm in
So many secrets. A robbery gone very wrong. Blame cast because of a disagreement. When things fall too much into step .....🤐 ..... they know who did it, and when the old man was going to talk, the persecution intensified.... sad sad case. A man who murders doesnt die of a broken heart, that's for sure.
Very true.
Aaah, but a man would die of a broken heart were he to reflect upon and rue the loss of a friendship he had once treasured…all because of a piece of wire.
Whether he murdered or not, ultimately it became “There Goes My Everything”.
and this sort of behavior continues in rural Ireland that fighting over land, killing in families, neighbours, societies along with excluding people from society for far less than murder, simply not liking the cut of them, been a single independent woman is enough to ensure you live alife of isolation and hardship. Its quite sickening, backward and unacceptable in this day and age. Id not advise anyone to live in rural Ireland even villages and towns are at this still.
No one should make money out of a tragedy .Cove in Cork could be billionaires if they made films out of all the boat tragedies, No winners in this.
Hi Kathleen. Not quite sure where you are coming from or who your comment was aimed at. No, there are no winners in any case tragedy. I don't think that needs any explaining be it for the Moore or Foley families. I'm not sure sure who you think is making money 'out of a tragedy'. Maybe I'm taking you up wrong - but you almost seem to be suggesting that no reporter, journalist, correspondent in the media should ever be paid for earnings for covering any such tragedy when carrying out their job. And, by extension, no media company should ever make money by documenting any tragedy.
Let's take you through this mindset.
Firstly, this channel and the work I do as a journalist on cases results in zero profits for me. Again, by extension, if you are actually suggesting that no case of tragedy should result in a play (John B. Keane's The Field), whether loosely or directly based on cases - then by extraction - you are saying we should never have news on anything bad by journalists and reporters on TV or radio, because somehow, they are paid to do a job, report a story/case, and they should not be paid for their work?
By your standards - we should not have had the news coverage of any war, terrorist bombing, murder, earthquake, institutional abuse - because it's tragic. By your standards, we should never have had the Veronica Guerin, Thin Blue Line, Shoah, or any other movie or documentary because it portrays tragedy and people are being paid for their work provided.
I think you need to take a long step back and actually think about the argument you are putting forward.
You mention the many horrible boat tragedies off Cove and the coast of Cork. You do realise that - mostly - the reason you know about them was because reporters and journalists (paid) did their jobs and that's how you know more about them?!! Are you not aware that at least 4 documentaries off the Cove coast - as tragedies - became documentaries?
I've no clue what age you are. Maybe you are forgetting the tragedy of Air India Flight 182 off the Cork coast in 1985. Or the fact the Titanic sailed for the last time from Cove. The same neck of the woods has a whole tourist industry based on this. We don't hide from history. It needs to be documented. We don't hide from history because it is uncomfortable.
I've no clue how you came to this channel. But YOU alone made that choice and commented on a true crime channel.
Why would you go to the bother if you hold the views you have? Why would you even be looking for a true crime channel?
I'm afraid life isn't all fluffy bunny rabbits and fields of flowers and angels. But we cannot play the game of 'see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil' because anything outside that makes you feel uncomfortable.
Take a further step back... and really examine the argument you are trying to make here. It simply doesn't make sense.
@@RadioEspial Hi Mick.Your first sentence says it all,"your not sure where I'm coming from" did you ever hear of freedom of expression? Did I mention journalist or media? I mentioned films, you call my opinion :an argument "Mick, ink never refuses paper, your blowing a lot of smelly air, remember freedom came at a great price , that's history.
@@RadioEspial
Spot on!
Land is land no other questions needed
It does clearly seem the murder motivation.
Motive...land-dispute, going to a court of law.
Moss going to the Gardai, informing them of the Foley threat.
Means....Foley lives next door, observing him and his habits.
Opportunity.....who else ? Dan Foley and/or Dan Foley and a family member.
No Sherlock Holmes required on this one.
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Problem ? Back in 1958, Forensics were non-existent, coupled with an isolated situation and no witnesses.
Perfect Crime.
There is some further and more detailed information on this case that can be found here on this link.
www.odonohoearchive.com/a-community-on-trial-an-overview-of-murder-at-dromulton/
Yes indeed the above is a Case i always had much interest in, for sure! No one knows who the Killer of Moss Moore was, then or indeed now! May Moss and Dan rest in Peace for indeed this Murder so much reminds me of a case where a Young Mother was Murdered near Schull in County Cork in where another Man is accused of this Ladies Murder with no proof what so ever, but i also followed that case for many Years, and may that French Lady Rest in Peace, as with so many other Cases i could Mention, but would dare not simply because i was not there and do not Know>>>>>>>>>
I know the case to which you are referring. Many people think that man is guilty. Bit just think, if he is actually innocent, his entire life since her murder has been completely destroyed.
@@lauraswann5543There is no evidence other than the fact that, because he had been guilty of domestic abuse, that this automatically made him the guilty party when he was not. There was never further investigation of a German man who lived nearby who returned to live in Germany shortly after the fatal crime was committed then committed suicide after telling his friend that he had done something terrible
@@lauraswann5543And yes, his life was entirely destroyed as was the life of his then partner, Jules. He was persecuted until the very end.
I fined this very sad.
To be fair there are a few unsolved murder mysteries that happened in Ireland.
Wonder what happened to Moss Moore’s dogs.
May Dan
rest in peace 🙏🏻
I think there maybe many unsolved murders in the state. Anecdotal evidence suggests, some deaths recorded as one cause or another, may very well have been unlawful deaths.
A great many. In fact more than 240 'violent and unlawful' deaths of women alone from 1996 - 2023. A quite a number of those cases have no convictions.
The subtitles really can't pick up on the accents! If you don't have a good handle on how the Irish accents sound in those mid to bottom counties, then do not rely on the subtitles! Its great though. So interesting
Auto subtitles still have a long way to go!
He may not have meant the book to be a direct accusation but you know how people work it’s going sway people against the accused It’s how we work.
Yes, I'm sure John B. Keane was asked many times was the play based on a real event. It's not exactly like a local and provincial audience would not have been able to put 2 + 2 together and figure out it was loosely based on the Moss Moore case. I doubt the wider international audiences made the connection. As an author myself, I wasn't even aware of the case connection until I researched the background.
I thought the ending myself was a bit contrived. The two lads sitting down pretending like there was no animosity. Ya right.
I think that Dan Foley was innocent. All they had against him was the fact that he and Moss Moore had a disagreement over a small piece of land. Who took the money out of Moss Moore's pocket? Who knew that Moss Moore had that money in his pocket? Manipulative people have often turned entire communities against a person whom they think is guilty, who may actually be innocent. I feel a lot of sympathy for Mr. Dan Foley who was ostracised, boycotted and terrorised by the local community after the murder of Mr. Moore because I don't think he was responsible. Dan Foley's nephew John Foley, spoke up for his uncle very well here.
And it should be remembered that Dan Foley was questioned but never arrested.
I would love to access the police file and work through every aspect of the investigation myself. I bet the answer as to whom did it is contained within.
Whoever hid Moses’ body had to have known the lay of the land really well, but would it not have taken more than one person to move a body, in darkness, to the place it where it was found?
Was the boundary issue ever legally resolved post the murder?
I believe the case was struck out as the plaintiff was deceased. John Foley, the nephew, later bought part of Moss's land.
With a case like this, the further time goes on the less likely it will ever be solved - the murderer is probably long dead
To me, the notion of a community turning against a man with no hard evidence (other than it being a small community and the two men having had a feud) is troubling...
Yet the attitude of the nephew is strange. He says at the end he knows who done it but his family want him to keep quiet?
If he genuinely believes his uncle was innocent it would make sense to 'reveal' the culprit - then again he might feel that no one will believe it anyway
Regardless, that evasiveness leaves more questions than answers.
Agree, I don't really see this one ever being solved.
If he named the person he bellieves murdered his uncle, even if that person is dead, would potentially lead to more animosity from relatives of that person in this small community. Probably better to let it go.😢
If he named the person he bellieves murdered his uncle, even if that person is dead, would potentially lead to more animosity from relatives of that person in this small community. Probably better to let it go.😢
Foley was full of folly!! he stalking and chasing mors as mors said....police sd they couldnt do anything about it.... shd have issed an order of protection against folly foley...
Lauren, I suspect back in that era, the gardai were very wary of getting directly involved in family disputes, particularly as this case dispute was already due in court.
Cringe. Next up there will be a story about something called the great famine that happened in Ireland. Many people might not have heard of it.
I think those famine ones have already been made!
Ha! What a statement to make at the end. The nephew says, that he basically knows who did it and when questioned about why he doesn't make a complaint, he says, "my family wants me to say no more about it". The guy is an awful bullshit artist. Dan Foley murdered him and hide the body under the ledge with the hope of moving it after.
Could be someone else you'd least expect some one young and stupid ,someone with land to inherit could have being joint enterprise between two people to give moss a fright pushed to far,that play john b wrote could have more fact to it than fiction.
24:02
'I can't do that now'
65 years isn't long enough?
So this man threatened to kill him punched him had scratches on his face from a bull left and someone else in such a desolate place comes and strangles the man ..well it's a strange case .guess we will never know ..😮
I doubt we will ever know, Gavin, after all these years.
Bullshit. The murderer is exactly who everyone knew it was. Scratches from a bull. Lol. Comical at best@@RadioEspial
Even tho Im Irish Ive never seen the play/film. Interesting story. Logically all the signs point to Foley, especially the "those scratches on my face are from a bull" excuse. So I reckon Foley did it. His nephew really stuck up for him tho. Seems like a nice man. Surprising that he wont name who really did it tho. That person must also be dead now so can he even be legally in trouble for naming who his uncle blamed? IF(and its a big if) he really has the name of the killer then he should name them publicly.
I thought the last line from the nephew was chillingly fitting tho: "Ownership of land is everything".. Echoing his uncles sentiments right there.
You nailed it. No. You can't defame the dead. As I've stated in several comments - with John Foley - I think there is still the family bravado - and he is throwing shade on another in the community, and likely he actually doesn't have any evidence beyond his instinct.
@@RadioEspial Agreed. All mouth and no trousers !! Even the fact that Dan Foley claimed to know who did it. Well how would he know ??? If he didnt do it then how would he know who did do it? And why wouldnt he go public at the time? Thats a typical tactic of murderers just trying to muddy the water. They claim that not only didnt they do it but they(and only they) know who did do it... buuuuut they conveniently cant say exactly who !!!!
Its like the murder case in America right now. The Delphi murderers. The accused(Allen) says he didnt do it but he that Odinites committed the murder as some kind of Religious sacrifice. Well how dafuq would he know that then if he had nothing to do with it? He just happens to know? Lol. He is just tryna add more confusion to the case.
And its the same with the Foley case IMO. He stole Moores land, then threatened to kill him when Moore took him to court and then had scratches all over his face the same day Moore went missing/was murdered. Its a slam dunk !!(IM-humble-O)
The film The Field is free to view on RUclips . Highly recommended but pretty depressing 😢
I bet my life its foley ,for f sake who on earth else could it possibly be.
How old was the foley nephew at the time ? .
I doubt John Foley was any more than in his mid to late teens at the time.
I wonder if the brother in law of Dan Foley was the real killer?
You'd have to explain that. May be I'm missing something - the brother in law?
My maiden name is Moore. INDIANA 😊❤
Fight with your hands only cowards use gun's
Dan foley.the real bull mc cabe.
Yes. The Brian Friel play later loosely based on this case.
Dan's nephew is a bit strange , hes saying he knows who did murder moss !!! But his family tell him to let it go !!!! Hes lying lol lol , he knows Dan done the deed .
Unfortunately he served the sentence meted out to him for the crime he was caught and convicted of. We can argue the length of sentence and how parole was weighed up against likely repeat offending, but we can't live in a society that just locks someone up for one crime indefinitely based on the a probability they might offend again once they serve their original sentence.
Get the whishky
Did they have showers and bidets in their homes. I hope so for the sake of hygiene.
You’re joking! The outside tap or stream/river with an outside toilet was very prevalent at that time and in urban areas also although sanitation improved greatly during those years also which was the case for an economically depressed Ireland at that time.
No mention of how much foleys nephew looks like moss😮 digging in another man's turnip patch ey moore?
Who else did it of course it was foley
This is another attach on the locals, ordinary people as being stupid. I think everything points to him killing his neighbour. And they refused to talk to him again. But typical of a woke reporter, making a name for himself, thinks he knows better. ....from Ireland.
@MichaelHarrisIreland - WTF has it got to do with 'being woke' ?
the video was pretty balanced
@@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT1 Seeing the wrong person as the victim. The victim was the guy who was killed in the real world, in the woke world it's the guy who was being blamed by his community.
a 12 year old could work out it was more than likely Foley who did it. Motive, means and opportunity. Ticks all the boxes. I also have to laugh at relatives of accused people who state with 100% certainty that their relative 'couldn't have done it' As if they have any way of truly knowing
Foley did it or he had his nephews do it with him.