Why was Magnus Carlsen Surprised | Maghsoodloo vs Magnus | World Rapid 2023
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- In the fourth round of the FIDE World Rapid Championship 2023, GM Parham Maghsoodloo (2644) was up against GM Magnus Carlsen (2818). Though Magnus was winning at one part of the game, a blunder by the World No. 1 gave Parham a chance to equalize the game. But as the game reached its conclusion, something happened that surprised Magnus.
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MAGNUS ARRIVES ON TIME!!????????????
😂😂@@prosartmarketing7330
Anyone who confused :- Parhm try to the Fifty Move Rule to claim a Draw in a Lost Game (Player can claim a draw if no capture has been made and no pawn has been moved in the last fifty moves). In this case it was only 46 moves 🙂
yeah but Magnus was pissed anyways :)
@@Alexander-dt2eqhe was a good sport about it
So the one who wins is still Magnus? I ask because I'm just learning chess
@@euaggelionmartinusyes cos it was a false claim
@@Alexander-dt2eqhe wasn’t, he said himself that it was a fair attempt on an interview he gave afterwards
Magnus walk is funny is like someone is barefoot walking on hot charcoal and trying not to get burned
🤣🤣🤣
So accurate lol
I’ve always wondered why he walks so fast. Maybe because he’s late for his matches?
its the tism 😆 i walk the same
😂😂😂😂
19:30 Sneaky Parham switched the kings in the centre of the board to the white squares after Magnus initially placed them on black squares. That’s why on the live relay, many were confused since it officially showed parham won
interesting 🧐
Parham doing a magnus, magnus once did it against Pragg in the world cup lmao
wtf. Why did he do that???
20:45. Misclick) l lost
one last attempt I guess 😆
(I'm being sarcastic before someone stress out, I know it was an accident)
Parham tried the 50 move rule claim Gambit! Just in case it works and he gets a draw!
He loses
@@barnabasastrofengia5345 no, his last ditch effort was switching the kings to light squares after the game ended (19:30) to claim the point, almost worked, live transmission switched the score for a moment 😆
@@lucasmatsuoca yeah, i saw it too, crazy
Explain the 50 move draw rule please?
@@gaelclichy7458 if 50 moves are played (btw 1 move = 2 turns, 1 from each side) witthout any type of captures or pawn moves, any player CAN clain a draw, but they are not forced to, and if i'm not mistaken after 100 moves without captures or pawn moves the arbiter must force the end of the game and decare a draw.
In Rapid and blitz game players usually don't keep track of the moves, that''s why Parham stopped the clock and asked the arbiter to check the move count to know if he could claim a draw, that is totally fine to do.
Best thing I like about this is that after the game, the GMs discuss these games, the faults and everything else. No game is this supportive. *I don't understand any moves they discuss though
17:18 "I have to try" ^_^
Magnus isn't surprised as much as us because he arrived before his oponent
The way Magnus thought that Parham was resigning 😂😂 (17:00)
😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Chessbase Indian cameras >>>> Fide cams.
Well done.
23:05 RIP headphone users
Thanks for the warning
RIP everybody
Explanation for beginners:
If you dont move 50 moves a pawn or capture a piece - it will be a draw due to 50-moves-rule.
Last pawn move was on move 47.
Game ended on move 87.
Parham tried to claim 50 moves.
Magnus understood within seconds, that there were only 40 moves.
exactly, you can't blame Parham as after Kb7, the knight will be captured, that was his last option to get a draw in a losing position.
@@asdfasdf-xf9veyou can blame him, he tried to cheat
@@arbo3495 It's not cheating to check with the arbiter
@@thijmen6451 he knew it wasn't 50 moves, otherwise he would have asked for the arbiter before being stuck with a lost knight. He tried it anyway and it's not a big deal, Magnus said he did it too.
But you can see that he was embarrassed of himself afterwards for trying it.
@@arbo3495 He played it out until the very last move to get as close as possible to, and possibly cross 50 moves. There is no way for him to know how many moves they are on so it's better to be safe than sorry and check with the arbiter. It's very silly to accuse someone who is simply applying the rules of cheating the way you did.
Today I learned that Magnus likes his horses turned towards each other. It's funny how everyone has their preferences about horse alignment 😂
EDIT: And apparently his opponent likes them facing forward
Both mine go left
@@dooflydetailguuy4349
same
@@dooflydetailguuy4349same- like in standard diagrams
The Wildr add in the end is too loud please balance out the audio, also you have an offline media on this one.
vidit spooked the shit out of me
Maghsoodloo claimed a 50-move rule (but only 46 were played since the last pawn move. Close, but no cigar.
being down points and trying to play for a win against Magnus is crazy
@@lezty the rule is if there's no capture and no pawn move in 50 then he gets a draw. After Kb7, the knight has nowhere to go so it will be captured and magnus wins easily, that was his last option to get a draw in a losing position.
@@asdfasdf-xf9ve You misunderstood him, he seems to say that Parham could draw it, instead he tried to play for the win and lose.
Fue tablas y reclamó repetición de posición en el tablero 3 veces
@@carloszevallos3581parhan perdió el resigno por perder el caballo él incluso dice esto a giri en 20:45 y que la pantalla está mal
@23:10 RIP EARS + RIP HEADPHONES/SPEAKERS. Don't do this to us Chessbase India. The video was great but damn that clip at the end killed us.
Completely legitimate thing to do, high IQ play. A lot of salty 600's in chat still though.
High IQ? More like only thing to do at that point...
I am far beyond 2k elo and to check the number of moves was a no-brainer.
@@Pullapelleno ones say far beyond 2k or people say they exatly rating or they are 2050 and is caping with such statement lmao
@@flacsomtodosclas2165 or then they don’t want to be identified by their elo, genious.
@@Pullapelle no one can be identified by their elo unless you are IM or above
i love these videos with the analysis board on the side. that's so nice - ty
Imagine how it was to play rapid in era when there were not DGT boards and proper chess software for computers.
In 1988 FIDE organized so called "Active chess world championships " with rapid time control and Karpov won it. Kasparpv was upset, he did not play there and said ; "If Karpov is active chess champion who am I then ? Passive champ ?"
I am pretty sure they did not have DGT boards back then and players did not have enough time to write moves on scoresheet.Perhaps they put arbiter next to every board to write down moves ?
in 1998 Elista Olympiad FIDE first used more than 300 DGT boards in big tournament and is using since then in every important event.
FIDE rules say that if you have 5 or less minutes on the clock you dont have to write down the moves.
You're telling me the literal thing they press every time they make a move couldn't be designed to keep track of the Number of moves? So dumb
@@lezty its not only number of moves, there is also 3-fold repetition which draws . If you dont have exact moves written on paper ( or in computer log like they do now using DGT boards) how you are going to claim 3-fold repetition ?
People played blitz and rapid before DGT was invented...
Kasparov stalemates himself in blitz world championships 1988 . Usual old fashions clocks ...
ruclips.net/video/vtTkfmaiI4I/видео.htmlsi=lmavR1f_ZzRWo8Vr
3-fold or 50 move draw would be much harder to determine without scoresheet
Tal in the world blitz that he won has his games digitized along with everyone else, so they had digital boards back then
14:49
Moment when Parham blundered.
He should have played Ng5 like before and black cannot trap that knight.
yeah exactly
This is not classical
yes, why he moved horse there??
@@PrayogiCristian nothing to do with classical lmao. skill issue
@@jt895 clown, try play it with few seconds left
Drawish giri giving lessons how to draw 😂😂😂
😂
Lol 😂
Is there anywhere i can see like this anish games?
16:17 could black try to arredt white knight? And a bit later --> did white claim 50 moves rule of nit moving/capturing pawns or what??
min 15:14 f5 why not?
Why anish everywhere
he's the opposite of vanish
One of the greatest mysteries of the universe. Cosmologists are trying to figure it out
Magus ❤️❤️❤️
Magnus
100% drawn position ended in a lost game has been played by GM
where would it be live where sagar or ankita will be commentaring?
Funny how Maghsoodloo and Firouzja have almost the same voice.
Both Iranian, so both have similar accents
@@sneakyvictorsneakyvictor7658 Not quite. They are from regions in Iran that are very close, and more importantly they are long-term friends and probably had the same English tutor. That's why. Any other two random Iranians would be very distinguishable.
Thank god someone else said this… I always felt this and was shocked when I heard their voices
They still have an Iranian Accent @@miladini1
Maghsoodloo tried to sue Magnus for take his knight. Magnus has been cleared without any charges.
Congratulations, Magnus Carlsen
17:00
Qué pasó en esa partida ???
15:00 why blunder? Eval favours black why?
blundering isn't intentional; duh
Why is Magnus so pissed? Parham wanted the 50 moves rule be checked. I mean its no big deal, lets check it and then ok.
he isn't ... did you watch the whole video? with the sound on?
Kramnik would find this "interesting".
incoming Hikaru vid.
the toilet champion? 😁
Oq aconteceu? Algum br pra explicar?
Several opportunities for Parham to take the f and h black pawns, but he seemed hellbent on 50 move draw...should have taken the pawns!
Or even should have continued to play defense like he was doing. There really wasn't any entry for the white king. But overall admirable play by Parham, didn't exchange a single piece or pawn unless he was absolutely forced to do so. Mostly people just try to exchange everything versus Magnus.
Very interesting end, can someone please explain the 50 move rule? This is why we need commentary for us noobs. Thx
If 50 moves are played without any pawn move or any capture, it is possible to claim a draw.
@@Redeiperdentibut yeah but it ain't 50 move
Originally there was no such rule, and frankly the rule is slightly dubious in how it helps the chess game itself. It was brought in because, from a tournament structure perspective, you don't want really want games that could potentially go on for many more than 150 moves, and absolutely don't want potential games where both players are just trying to wait for the opponent to blunder mentally first in drawn positions just because they refuse to agree to a draw. The few games that have gone over 200 moves in these settings, especially if it started in the afternoon, tend to go on way too long (heavily impacting the next day of playing for both players) and be incredibly dull to watch. So, the theory goes, if neither side makes a single capture or pawn move for 50 moves straight, then there must not be any advantage to convert (as a good player would have made such progress substantially within 50 moves) and the game is drawn.
Of course, things are rarely that theoretical. It is possible to make a positional mistake that doesn't lose material but still loses the game, but if you are close to the 50 move rule the game is still maybe drawn. Or you could be objectively winning and simply be having trouble with a difficult pattern that you will eventually get (a few tournaments back Super GrandMaster Nepo found himself in a Queen vs Rook situation, which is winning for the Queen but with a very tricky pattern, which Nepo seemingly couldn't precisely recall. But part of the stress that made Nepo fail to win (via 50 move rule draw) was that it is a very long pattern even when correct and 50 moves was looming over him. Or you could simply argue that chess "should" be about mental stamina, and if you think you have a slight advantage you should be able to try and grind out a win, and not stopped because you are using too many moves to do so.
At the end of the day it has many flaws and can be situationally positive but is really designed to restrict statistical outliers that could interfere with tournament priorities, at the cost of sometimes drawing winning games.
@@rowanmales3430bruh this rules was made so people wouldnt keep playing in an dead draw position for hours just to try stalling the opponent clock saying it dosent help is absurd because in a general level of chess there is a lot of toxic kids who would try that.
@@flacsomtodosclas2165 ...And that is a problem? If it is a dead drawn position, but someone wants to play on and hope for a blunder, why should that not be allowed? It is only a "drawn position" with perfect play after all, and humans are not perfect. You also risk being the one to blunder instead. Also, there is a natural end based on 3-Fold Repetition draw which you are ignoring which stops the exact same position being played endlessly. So long as you can keep posing NEW positions to your opponent, your opponent should be required to choose how to defend that position. Seems pretty obviously correct to me.
Parham said. He was on pressure ! thats why he lost. he knew it was a easy draw, still he lost. Magnus effect.
Nah he just got greedy and wanted to grab a pawn instead of parking the Knight in safe square. Turned out Magnus was sharp enough to punish him.
No. He forgot to put the knight back to G5 i think. He knew it was a draw. But playing magnus is Just to much pressure
Just watch when he talks to Giri
@@WhiteSharkconcac no stupid, that's not what happened
A Mozart-like champ during this golden age of chess!
No need to make issue of that. Opponent was only trying to find that 50 moves are played or not .no shame in loosing to best player in the world
Lustig, wie die 20:34 und 20:39 über die Absperrungen steigen. Danke
0:26 I've noticed Magnus and many other players before start of match are very concerned to get the pieces precisely placed in the square centres.
But once started they don't give a damn - anywhere will do!
Why did he claimed draw if there wasn't 50 moves completed
Interesting how they are all obsessed about how their pieces are centered on the squares before starting.
It is less interesting if you know why.
@@sailor-rick does it have to do with the fact its a smart board? making sure pieces register correctly?
@@magurio1877 no
worth a try if he believed it so...but come on..even i saw the knight was being stalked...allowing it to get caught was really bad play
the knight was getting trapped no matter what or allowing king infiltration, the blunder happened 6 or 7 moves before the knight getting "officially" trapped
23:09 gotta turn down the volume on this jumpscare at the end
Qué hubiera pasado si en el 14:17 jugaba Caballo g7?
Veo que le dieron la partida a Maghsoodloo, pues al final ponen los reyes en cuadros blancos.
Never understood why the DGT doesn't call it automatically
because the FIDE said 50 rules needs to be claim but 75 is automatically
16:38 - why cant he jump with the knight to b4
After king b5 the knight will still be trapped cause the rook could check on the 2nd rank if the knight moves
thank you!@@niklass1137
i thought he was saying "three fold repetiton" to me it looked like they played the same moves alot
three fold must be claimed exactly at the moment you repeated three times, you cant claim later, and even so, I'm pretty sure it didn't happen, Magnus was keeping track of the squares he was using with the rook
why is the end so loud?!?!?!
17.00 😂😂😊
Chessbase asked the question but didn't answer the question. :(
Are you girl? Are you sulky? LOL
Is there no three move repetition rule?
pero quién gano la partida??? porque Maghsoodloo le dijo a giry que perdio¡¡¡
5:06 why magnus dont play pawn? And majes chess with tempo?
OK, so he claimed 50 moves, but it was only 40, but what happened next?
Who won
Does the clock have a move counter?
a move counter on the clock wouldn't help ... it's 50 moves since the last capture or pawn move, not 50 moves total
8:35 Cxf3! and Carlsen win
Cannot hear what people are saying but your videos are great
6:03 queen problem
15:11 why doesn't white take the pawn
I think ke4 and rd2 stuff
Knight gets trapped
Ke4 threatening knight, after knight move to h6 (if knight move to other square will be taken), then Rd2 check, white king must move to 1st rank and black can slowly chop all white pawn..
You lose the knight, the rook dominates it and after Ke4 knight can only go to h6 and I think it's lost after Rh7 Ng8 Kf5 since Ke6 and Kg7 can't be stopped and knight gets picked off
I can see that if Knight takes, the Black King can go to E4, causing the Knight's only safe squares to be E3 and H6. If Knight E3, the Knight is lost when the Rook checks the White King, but I can't see a problem with Knight B6. Maybe it leads to some sort of Mating Attack with the Rook and Black King?
so who won at the end?
Шиманов... Легенда!!! Вижу его сквозь Пархам)
I don't understand why dubov refuses to play for something of very important when he is in the hightest positions
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Why’d he switch the kings at the end? Lol what a poor sport
He was demonstrating a position to Magnus
At 13:50 could Magnus not have moved castle to c1 then to f1 and ended it there? I don’t see how white could have gotten away
Белые просто ходят конем и f1 невозможен.
Ayyy the classic 50 move gambit
Nice one!!
I dont know why he didn't try to win that h pawn. After that if his knight got trapped, he would atleast have 1-2 pawns to show for it.
Can’t wait till boards come standard with sensors that automatically detect 50-move rule, three-fold, stalemate etc
50 move rule no is automatically if u check the Rules in FIDE manual, only 75 is automatically
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Parham had a fortress with which he could hold a draw for ever. He needn’t have taken any risk at all!
That reminds me of my games, i have nothing to lose because it's casual playing, and when theres repetitions, dead draw, i just throw haha i just would rather lose than draw
But yeah, he shouldnt have done it, it's hard to think the Knight can get trapped tbh
@@juliocadavid6640 the knight could never have got trapped if he kept it g5
Magnus always walks like he has forgotten something in that place and just quickly needs to get it before continuing with what he really wants to do....
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Nt sure what was he trying to do with the knight anyway. He lost it for free anyway , the 50 move count not withstanding.
according to 17:31 whenever u reach the 57 sec you return to 53 then to 59 HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (look at the big clock)
at 15:11 white couldve taken the pawn on F5 no? unless im missing something
Nxf5, Ke4, Nh6, Rd2+, and the king is cut off from the pawns
i think white didn't take because black knight would be trapped after:
Nxf5 - Ke4
Nh6 - Rh7
Ng8 - Kf5
g4+ - hxg4
that combination leaves black in a winning position because white's knight would be trapped
@@DeWElGaMeRI think
Nxf5 Ke4
Nh6 Rg7 traps the knight on the spot
Then the king comes in via e5-f6-g6
What happen?
What happened here ?
He was seeing if he can claim a draw by the 50 move rule, which is nothing captured or any pawn pushes for 50 moves. He was going to lose anyway, so might as well attempt it. After checking the moves, it was under 50, he resigned and Carlsen won.
VOLUME WARNING AT THE END
Should've kept the knight running for a couple more moves :)
can't happen, that was its last move before being captured
23:10 rip headphone users
Any one can explain me why match is draw I don't understand
It isn't a draw. A draw was claimed under the 50 move rule but it was unsuccessful.
Who won the match?
In the end magnus won right?
Is it just me or is the board broken?
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Is it clear? In 19:22 Magnus put the kings on white center squares. So he claimed the win. But then the sneaky Parham said in 19:26 - 19:36 Nope, I take a draw home, as he puts them on black and white squares in opposition. Magnus felt to the aggressive style of sneakiness, so at the end Magnus give up and put the kings on the white squares and resigned 19:48. The result is clear 20:00. - So don’t mess with Parham. When he is hungry for a draw, he is always winning.
For more clearness. I like both chess players. I’m only make some jokes … 🎉
who won???
Can someone just answer the damn question if Magnus won, lost, or if the game was a draw? Comments so far are all over the place and don't say one way or the other. I'm not a chess aficionado, so I don't understand if someone won or if it's still a draw. I understand Parham THOUGHT it was a draw due to the 50-move rule, but it wasn't, so does Magnus still win? Does it still draw? Why did Magnus put the kings on black, but Parham move it back? WHO WON?
Magnus has the bowed legs of a cowboy. You'd think he spent his life riding bucking broncos.
Really good video. You got a thumbs up from me. I uploaded a short if anyone is interested in the post interview with Magnus on the whole situation since it wasn't included here. Cheers :D
Can someone explain why Maghsoodloo put the Knight on d6 square.? Is it so easy to make a draw by keeping the Knight on g6. He can make the Knight jumping around g6 and move the King around g3 pawn. Should it be a draw? Did he lose because of timing pressure?
Why didnt Maghsoodloo go Ke8 so he could extend the fifty move rule?
that wouldn't have extended anything