This Denomination Will Be TOAST if This Trend Continues
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- This denomination will be TOAST if this trend continues… In this video, Todd Friel warns the Southern Baptist Convention and the broader Evangelical community of the dangers of pastors using AI and other un-original means to write their sermons.
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I am a SBC pastor and this is right on the money. Many months ago I pledged publicly before my congregation that I would never plagiarize or use AI to construct a sermon and I gave them full permission to test my commitment at anytime. Todd is absolutely correct on this one…
Amen brother keep up the good work,keep strong in your faith and Anointing.
Never even considered AI sermons wow
My wife and I visited for a little while at a large church. There were 1000 - 1500 people there. The pastor was praising the local university football team, most of who were there. All of the people, as far as I could see, stood up and gave them a standing ovation. Except me and my wife. She probably would have stood out of politeness but didn't since I didn't move. We remained seated. I'm not going to recognize a ball team in the Lord's house.
We had in a Four Square church; a rapper, prison tuff guy, guy with no arms jumping in a pool, bouncy houses, sheer yoga pants without underwear, lingerie booty shorts, a guy in a red dress dancing in front of the congregation during the service, videos of people who had an abortion(s) and didn’t know it was wrong during marriage!
Any Questions why this country is TOAST!!
Amen and thanks for telling this out loud!
I am an SBC pastor who preps sermons the old school way, prayer and study. This trend has already infiltrated the mega church movement. It’s a sad and disappointing trend
Good for you!
Thank you for being honest
If you can't write your own sermons then you aren't a pastor. This is shameful for any denomination or congregation that allows this.
If the pastor isn't writing his own sermons, then what is he doing with his time?
Instead of preaching the Word of God, people are preaching words of other people. Instead of building their sermons on the foundation of Christ, they are building on the foundation of other men.
Sermons are supposed to come from the pastor who studies & prays, asking God to lay burdens on his heart that needs to be preached to the congregation. And yes, I love Expository preaching!!!
My grandfather, a Baptist minister, told me before I became a pastor, “Be careful, the ministry is often a refuge for a lazy man.”
That and he told me, “Be ready to preach, pray, or die at a moment’s notice.”
I miss him.
Well, his third moment hit. Peace be with him, for Jesus certainly is.
Long time lay leader. here. My denomination has more than a handful of men who weren't the cool kids in school who became pastors for hopefully the right reasons. However, they are unaccustomed to the attention they receive as pastors and have a hard time managing it in an appropriate way.
Ultimately what these forms of cheating reveal is a low view of preaching, which stems from a low view of worship, which stems from a low view of God.
And a low view of Scripture
Wow! I had no idea! Thanks for bringing this to our attention. It’s becoming more and more difficult to find a reliable church.
Todd, this is great stuff. An additional encouragement is needed here, IMO: congregants should encourage the pastor who invests 15-20 hours/week (average or minimum) in study and sermon prep instead of being disgruntled because he isn't available "more."
I can't believe the garbage I heard that so-called female pastor saying about God's pronouns how dare them what heresy
blasphemous!😢
It’s shocking the congregation just repeats after her and no one objects.
Be thankful you didn't hear the rest of that "creed"
That was UMC, not SBC.
A form of godliness without the Power thereof~Bible
Ugh. Deceit is everywhere.😔
I remember years ago our assistant pastor did a sermon series, and I kept thinking “this sounds familiar”. Then a couple weeks later I saw a rerun of Andy Stanley giving the same talk (I refuse to call what AS does as “preaching”). I was super disappointed. And now that assistant pastor is our senior pastor and he references questionable sources like Tim Keller and Preston Sprinkles frequently. I am seeking the wisdom of the Holy Spirit on whether I stay in this “Bible” church.
bsouth, sounds like leaving is long overdue. You remonded me of visiting a church that was embarking on a 6 or 8-weel sermon series based on Keller's "Prodigal God" book. Why not stick with the Bible? To me, that's an easy way to cover a couple months of Sundays but cheats the congregation. At least the pastor credited the source he'd be coasting on.
I feel that since you're questioning this publicly that means we Christians may be led to help you make that decision and so I, as a true believer in Jesus Christ, the Father, and the Holy Spirit, implore you to not go back to that church! May God bless you!
Leave!! Now!! Put it Behind you!!! Move toward The True Light of Jesus Christ!! God Bless You.
Consider first going to your pastor with Bible in hand and show him from scriptures his faulty doctrine .
My favorite short prayer: Jesus Is Lord.
Flee.. in Jesus mighty name, flee the wicked workers of iniquity.
As a laymen, who has filled pulpits when I was younger, am guilty of plagiarism. I lifted phrases, concepts and even direct lines from sermons I heard or commentaries I had read. I should have turned down those preaching engagements. I simply was not prepared. Earnest? Sincere? Helping out small little country churches in need of some preaching? Yes. But that is still no excuse. After I left the SBC church I was in and joined an independent KJV only Baptist church, I finally heard was expository preaching really was. A pastor would could fill up a two hour Bible study on a single question on a sentence in a passage of scripture. You can only do that by studying the Bible. Not what others have written about the Bible. It has stuck with me for years.
❤ Conviction by the Holy Spirit.
Good for you in confessing and growing. I have more respect for you and us that confess to other believers and we all should be in practice of this ALWAYS. Iron sharpens Iron.
dberg, I was a pastor tor a short time long ago and likewise lifted phrases and concepts from commentaries and sermons. We were taught to do that in Homiletics class. Crediting the source makes the difference, which we were taught to do (also gave sermons an air of academic respectability, I suppose, for what such vanity is worth). I agree about IFB preaching. I enjoy brothers like Robert Breaker and Gene Kim et al. But my favorite is a Victorian-era Baptist pastor named J.C. Philpot, whose printed sermons are treasures. (I actually prefer Philpot over the overrated Prince of Preachers CHS himself!).
I grew up in an Indep Fund Baptist Union KJV only (weird being in poland) church and never once heard an expository sermon. Most, if not all the camp meetings were preaching against ACDC, Beastie Boys, or Brittany Spears. Even the Gaithers was considered ungodly because they used drums. It definitely is not the denomination that dictates if expository sermons are used. The reformed churches here are so much more biblical than the mainstream IFB union churches.
Just preach and teach the Bible. Equip people to love God, live like Jesus, and serve the family of God.
Years ago, (at least 30) our pastor announced the evening sermon title as a teaser. I made sure I was at church to hear. As I was listening that evening I thought, “I have this sermon at home on tape”. He was teaching word-for-word a John MacArthur sermon. He was selling cars for a living a few years later.
I guess if you're going to copy, MacArthur is a good one to still from.
We went to a Southern Baptist Church for short time years ago and they were talking about all the preachers, at least in our area, giving the same sermon each Sunday so all churches were hearing the same thing.
We left another church we started attending after a move because the pastor was giving sermons I had heard before - they were ones my pastor had done before I moved. When the pastor started presenting sermons my husband had heard from my previous pastor and then some from my brother's pastor, we left the church. Although they were all great sermons and very biblical, they lacked the passion of a preacher who is truly studying God's Word. That would explain why the church had so many baby Christians that had been attending this church for years. They were like hearers of the Word but not doers.
Very sad that preaching is more of a job than a gift from God.
If preachers are going to preach other men's work, why can't they preach Spurgeon's sermons? At least the congregations will get some solid Bible teaching.
Great idea!
I found my church on Grace To You's church finder. There are less than a handful in Phoenix Metro. Find a church, guys, and dig in. We need each other.
I'm in Phoenix too. I found my church at Panera's when I noticed two women doing inductive Bible study. They told me.
My son lives in Mesa. Still hasn't found a church that isn't 45 minutes away to attend.
I envy you in the Phoenix metro, with everything available from James White to Steven L. Anderson and all that is in-between. Just a variety of voices and options.
1 Timothy 4:16
"Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them , because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers. " NIV
As an SBC pastor, I appreciate your helpful critiques on the convention and your willingness to speak to simple resolutions.
A long, long time ago, we had a pastor who had a graphic pasted to his monitor.
It was a picture of a can, circled i red with a slash through it: NO CANNED SERMONS.
I always respected that.😊
Depends on who does the editing. I saw a pastor try to use some info graphics when teaching about some Hebrew words in the sermon he was preaching. He mixed up three different Hebrew letters. He went to seminary for this and got those letters wrong. In fact, he mixed up one letter with two different letters in the same infographic!
Jeepster. I respect that "no canned sermons" stance. I knew a pulpit-fill pastor who had a list of about 25 sermons he could deliver, many for holidays like Mother's Day. A church could pick one and he'd blow the dust off his notes and preach it. I didn't like that then and really despise it now. Sermons as commodity. Insulting to the congregation who come seeking to hear a word from God and get a one-man scripted show, like a Chautauqua oration.
You know what would solve this? Exegetical preaching. Turns out you don't need to think of whizz bangers if you're strictly teaching the word of God.
Edit for clarification: exegetical/expository
I am so blessed to be in a community of faith whose pastors do exegetical preaching. We are in our third year in Romans and as far as chapter 12. It's been great. Our pastors open their sermons with "Open your Bibles to...."
@@josephtyldesley6116 are you talking about Bible Study Fellowship?
@josephtyldesley6116 I go to an expository church, and it didn't happen that way. In fact, when Covid happened, we continued attending in the building while other churches were either doing online services only or were doing parking lot services. And we didn't have any problems from it. If an individual or family caught Covid, it didn't spread among the members.
There's exegesis in topical sermons. Expository preaching would be the solution though, because the exegesis is given in its proper context and the pastor is forced to preach from more of the Bible. Topical sermons I find tend to stick to the same books of the Bible over and over again and rarely ever touch other books or barely touch them at least.
At the church I attend now, I actually think I've heard my first ever sermon series in Nahum. I can't think of any other preacher who has ever preached from Nahum!
I can't tell you how tired I was of churches that preached a feel good message. I went to one service and their female "pastor" talked about tik tok videos for the entire "sermon". Thankfully, I've found a church that preaches the Gospel and primarily Scripture with the meaning of Greek words/phrases from the Greek, as well as Hebrew for the OT. I love it as we are going through the entire book of Revelation currently.
My home church disaffiliated with the United Methodist car wreck, then had to fire the first pastor we hired after the disaffiliation for plagiarizing his sermons. I feel confident we’re on the right track.
As an infant Christian, a few decades ago, one of the first things I realized was that I needed to disassociate from the United Methodists. They’ve been a car wreck for years!!!
Does the Methodist church still have drag Christmas story time!?
@@johnbrodnik839 not mine.
All EastLake Churches read the same sermon, and the Sermon Reader False Pastor tries to pretend it's his own! Great Video! Todd Friel Rocks!
Eastlake as in Chula Vista, Ca?
@@Darlingdevin YES
I have heard about multiple churches in my area using canned sermons from the same sermon series at about the same time!
The church i belong to is a mega church. The senior pastor has a team that puts together a sermon series and does some researxh. The senior pastor composes the sermon, gives it to satellite churches so their pastors can change the examples, modify the intro “to make the sermon his own.” It’s just what the Catholic church does. The argument for this is “uniformity” and so that the under pastors dont preach wrong theology. How’s about vetting pastors … what happened to that? Now, they are more like administrators than under shepherds.
@@yvonnemutuc8335 When I went to one of their Churches, the Fake Pastor read the Chula Vista sermon word for word! I Just Think it's Lame to have Sermon Reader Fake Pastor!
I agree pastors shouldn't sell sermons or use another pastor's sermons without acknowledging it. but I see nothing wrong in sharing insights on scripture, it should be encouraged. I love what others find in scriptures that I miss. I never knew that the first miracle Jesus did was all about the rapture of the church until a Jewish pastor explained the customs of the weddings in Galilee.
This ☝️
I used to be SBC. I worked for a pastor once that was a serial plagiarist. I once heard him deliver a sermon with a personable anecdote. He told a story about his family on vacation. His two young children in the back. His wife riding shotgun. They whole while, his wife and daughters (now adults) sitting in the congregation nodding and approving. I googled it. He stole it. Unbelievable.
Preaching it!!! ;-) Thank you for covering this. Call it out! Pastors need the Word more than their people.
It’s a problem for which we left a church 14 years ago.
If pastors would just teach through the Bible, instead of topically, they wouldn’t have to worry about writing sermons.
I agree, and it would make the congregation a lot more Biblically literate.
Amen!
Amen!!
@@surrenderdaily333I completely agree. I’ve seen quite a few churches where Biblical literacy was at a kindergarten level due to a lack of sound Biblical preaching. It’s heartbreaking.
My dad preached from Rick Warren's sermons for decades. He said it was not wrong because it was allowed by Mr. Warren under being a helpful ministry. My dad isn't a pastor anymore.
I’m sorry you had to go through that as part of his family. I trust you are still following the Lord for yourself and finding him faithful.
"My dad isn't a pastor anymore."
He never was.
Hopefully he has repented and the pastor that replaced him was in better shape.
@@Packhorse-bh8qn Warren never really was either....Wealth and Health preacher....does not share the WHOLE Word of God including the NEED for Salvation
@@michaelkendall662 "n Warren never really was either.."
Agreed! A wolf in sheep's clothing.
We were so disappointed that the SBC didn’t ratify the Law Amendment. The SBC will now go the way of the UMC and start sliding down to pride flags.
I'll believe it when I see it, and if we see it guess where they'll go: non-denominational churches, just as God intended.
Our chuchs former pastor was downloading his sermon and notes from Craig Groeschels site. I found it first on my own so i downloaded the sermon outline and he followed it to a tee including Craigs jokes and stories. I really questioned his calling and gifting to myself at that point but only told my wife. He eventually left to greener pastures but ill say that after that he couldnt be authentic in my mind anymore.
no fear of God in general.
As a former member of the SBC, few things would make me happier than seeing the whole thing fall apart. Our pastor of a 1000 member church was plagiarizing Rick Warren sermons for years and no one cared. This is just the new way of doing it.
When you are in a denomination that centers the worship service on a sermon, dependent upon the skills of the preacher, you have lost your way. Do a search of church history and ask yourself what the CENTRAL point of worship was until the Reformation. hint...you won't find it in Protestantism.
So a pastor doing the hard work of exegesis, theological reflection and application to our life and time in order to help the people know who God is as put forth in His Word, what He desires of us that we may glorify Him at all times, as well as clearly and passionately presenting the gospel each week to believers and the unregenerate is not good? Maybe I’m wrong but what I just described sounds a bit like the great commission. How can we properly pray, sing psalms, hymns and spiritual songs, receive communion worthily and properly baptize without the above being a “central focus” of a worship service? I might be far off base here so please, tell us, what should be the main focus of a worship service?
@@johndemola1608 what was the central point of all worship services up until the Reformation? Look at the Liturgy of John Chrysostom for a hint.
That’s what I thought.
@@johndemola1608 It was the celebration of the Eucharist, or Lord's Supper. Read the Didache; read the early Fathers. The pinnacle of Christian worship was, and still is for the Eastern Orthodox, the receiving of the Holy Mysteries. Sermons are very important; but the Eucharist is essential. Read John 6.
Todd, you are very wise and discerning. Thank you!
Hearing all the criticism of the Episcopal Church. Ss a lifelong Episcopalian I totally agree with you.
Thank you Todd for this. I am an SBC Pastor & do all the work on every sermon myself. I am very weary of AI- especially in sermon preparation.
SBC is imploding! We left JD Greear’s church due to many factors. Obviously the Holy Spirit is not present or even welcomed.
Too many pastors are career Christian’s and salesmen NOT shepherds. Instead of being on their faces before a Holy God, they’re playing pastor superstar!
So many are falling away from the precepts and principles of God's word. God help us.
I get inspiration from a lot of different people - including Todd Friel. But those are the starting point for my sermon writing. If I use an example from something online I state that it is a quote and credit the person who originally used it. But a sermon service or AI is ripping off the congregation.
I agree with most of this.. serious question, is writing/researching with a team of pastors that much different from using commentaries?
Thank you these guys are mad they had to use hours and we can get data right away and it can help you even do arcing
I know back in the 1700's and 1800's it was quite popular to read sermons in church from different pastors. You could buy books of sermons. Rather popular from what I read.
Wow! You got comments turned on. 😊 Just hi and I appreciate everything you do.
It seems that the two issues here are (1) integrity and (2) the pastor's own devotional life.
Each pastor should craft a unique sermon for his flock every time he preaches. That isn't to say he has to reinvent the wheel each time. It's good when pastors read sermons and commentaries, especially from previous generations. Valuable insights should be passed on. This is far different from preaching a "canned" sermon or telling another preacher's story as if it really happened to you.
Pastors who are diligent in their Bible reading, praying, and knowing their flock have little need to preach sermons dishonestly.
If you use a source, cite it. Any college freshman in a composition course knows this.
At my old church, one of the pastors in a Bible study he was teaching has more than once promoted an AI app called Perplexity. I have tried asking AI about subjects I already know about and the responses I get look too generic and unoriginal and often miss key details that I know about. Cliff's Notes would teach me better than AI would!
John Yenchko was the pastor of New Life Church in Glenside PA. He was let go when the elders learned that he was plagiarizing his sermons. He took a job as pastor to a church in NY. My understanding is that no one told the NY church why he was let go.
It has been my experience that when a pastor leaves one church and applies at another, no one asks important questions, or contacts the previous church to get an idea of why they left or were fired. It’s like don’t ask, don’t tell. So you can get a pastor that is a bully, a serial adulterer, or a heretic. But the leadership doing the hiring just covers their ears regarding any possible negative attribute and hires him anyway because they just need to fill the pulpit. That’s lazy!
I pastor a small church, so I don't have a pastoral team to study the scriptures with, but I think it would be great if the pastors worked together to craft the weekly sermon. I don't think that's cheating.
😂. I visited a church in Chicago once while there for a weekend and the sermon was plagiarized from one I saw on TV a couple of months before. Literally word for word. He did give it as if it was his own. My husband loved it because he didn’t see it on tv. I was about to walk out mid service.
I remember as a young teenager being in a Baptist bookstore in Fort Worth. My father was ordained in the Free Will Baptist and he would go to the bookstore looking for material for sermons.
There was a series of books that, as best as I can remember, had outline ideas for sermons. Not the whole sermon, but outlines.
I'm not saying buying sermons is a new thing, but they did have a form of it back in the mid to late 70s.....sorta.
Ideas are different from plagiarism which is lifting text verbatim
We shall created our own denomination, Church of the Wretched. Insane that these pastors can't come up with their own sermons, aren't they trained for that?
I am down with that
Smh. I Googled it. Had NO idea. Smh This may very well seem petty to a lot of folks, Todd, but I agree with you. How "tuned in" to his sheep can a "Pastor" be that is putting sermons together like that, Or, for that matter, how tuned in can he be to God?
I work on AI software. The primary source of info AI gets is search engines and digital books we have a license to. So a chatGPT sermon is plagerized
It's not just the SBC!
The SBC has been disobedient to God and His word for a very long time now. They have chosen the god of this world to serve. I left them several years ago .
I wish they made it easier for small SBCs to have a voice at the conventions. There's evil and disgust going on and its not going to stop.
"Canned" sermons are becoming more and more common. The sad part is when many churches are asked about it, they knowingly defend it.
"We like our hireling, please leave us alone."
Our pastor at Five Stones Church in Waxhaw, NC was eventually asked to resign by the elder board due to sermon plagiarism. It was not the first instance. He’d been found to have done it prior, they attempted to build him back up, but it continued and he was asked to part. It was hard as he was a founding pastor and we truly loved the heart he had for people.
But did he have a heart for the Lord? They are not synonymous.
@@pedsrn2003 I honestly think he did, but he had a failing, a pretty big and disqualifying one. Actual Christians can be in serious error and still be saved.
The beard is looking great, Todd. I always enjoy your videos. God bless you, brother!
AMEN! I agree with you 💯 percent
I've told my congregation's leaders the first thing they should do is leave the SBC.
Full time seminary student here…at a rather large reformed seminary…it amazes me that I’ve met more than one fellow student whose wife writes their papers for the …pure garbage! Dudes had the juevos to brag about it to one another. Not cool. On a side note. Have a friend in the medical field, they use AI to write protocols for scenarios and equipment. He’s a proponent of churches using it for children’s safeguarding protocols or decagonal protocols and such. AI is just another tool, like the internet…it can be useful, but will be easily and frequently abused.
Pastor's have always sold their sermons by collating them into books and selling the books. You can still by the sermons of Spurgeon and numerous other pastor's sermons.
After our expastor left we found out he was purchasing sermons, he was copying and pasting different parts of sermons, for months we couldn't figure out what he was trying to say, it was horrible, a month before he left then his sermons made sense, it was at that time he was just reading one, instead of using different bits
I left a church who used online sermons .... and went woke. Found a solid Bible teaching church. PTL!
Another, sort of similar trick (that I would view as unethical) that I heard about from my brother when he was living in Texas, is where some famous person would write a book and work a deal with a number of church pastors where he would compose and print different versions of the book (a different version for each pastor who would get in on the deal) that were 99% the famous person's (or his ghost-writer's) work, but have a few places where each pastor would put in a few paragraphs and personal anecdotes that would foster the illusion that he and the famous guy had co-written the entire book, and then each pastor would plug the book and sell it to his congregation, which would be motivated to buy it because it had the appearance that their own pastor had written a book together with the famous person. I think on the cover it would say "by (pastor), with (famous person)" (or maybe the other way around). Both the original writer and the pastor would profit financially from the deal, and the pastors involved didn't have to do any work beyond composing a few paragraphs that would be plugged into the version printed to be sold at his church.
THAT IS DISGUSTING!😡
Wow. Thank you for pointing this out !
Exactly what James Patterson does!!! Have anyone Ever Noticed!!!????
The problem of deceptive practices, including plagiarism, is a systematic of a larger problem. One of the elephant’s in the room, very seldom is the pastor at any given church called and qualified to be a Pastor. I have trained church leaders for decades and this one of the root issues.
Many years ago my former pastor plagiarised every detail of an article by (of all people) Kenneth Copeland... Nuff said.
Brother Todd, I attended an independent church in singapore where the pastor in charge/founder took John MacArthur's sermon and translated it in Chinese and claimed it as his own. Many members are from China and do not listen to English pastors. I called him out privately and he ostracised me. I have left the church...the one which claimed to be reformed but allows woman preachers. The elders are all friends of the pastor. It's not entirely a goat farm but the pastor is questionable😢
I remember listening to an audio of a well known pastor (Mortis Vendon) and then hearing years later, an elder preach that same sermon word for word.
The difference in a copied sermon and a Prayerfully studied, wrestled out lesson, cut straight, that reflects and explains the meaning of the text, is the same as a warmed over supper out of the refrigerator and a thoughtfully cooked meal hot and fresh out of the oven. Old food starts taking on the characteristics of the container, old reheated sermons take on the characteristics of the human container. Which minimizes the clarity and power of The One it should represent.
Many of these folks are going to be shocked in how the next life goes
The Church is.....let me shut up before I get in trouble.................SMH
This may be part of that Holiness element. When you write your sermons with prayer, scripture, and guidance from the Holy Spirit, that's some extremely important communion time with God. Don't get so busy that Jesus becomes a friendly stranger. Not having that time, even sebatical time, robs from the shepherd, then from the sheep.
That’s disheartening. My previous pastor insisted on daily journaling. He came with his own followers & used their journals to cobble his script for Sunday Services. Every word he spoke was literally written down for the congregation to follow along including the pithy story.
Minor correction: When you compared the SBC to Episcopalianism (granted, a potential comparison), the clip you showed of a woman leading the congregation in the "Sparkle Creed" (non-binary god) was actually from an ELCA "church", not an Episcopal "church". (I put "church" in quotes because neither the ELCA nor Episcopal Church are Christian anymore.) ELDoNA Lutheran here, former ELCA member.
Just a few years ago, it was revealed that the president of the SBC had plagiarized several of his sermons. It's the only time I ever joined calls for a sitting SBC president to resign. Surprisingly, many pastors defended him.
Those defending pastors were probably guilty of the same thing.
Yeah, that was Ed Litton caught swiping J.D. Greear sermons.
My California pastor straight up said all pastors borrow material from other pastors
It is pretty accurate.
I actually didn't know this was happening.
Its like not trusting God enough to be the shepherd over his flock! When the pastor doesn’t sit and humble himself before the Lord for his truth "The Body" needs to be sharpened
truth some pastors are very lazy especially the 20 minute ones ours goes 1 hr minimum and its bible
The less one labors in preaching and teaching, the less a pastor should be paid (1 Tim. 5:17).
What a complete disgrace!!
It has been toast.
It is toast.
Let it be toast.
2 Corinthians 4:3-4:
But if our gospel be hid,
it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this age has blinded the minds of them who believe not,
lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
They do not know the Gospel.
They do not preach the Gospel.
MONEY is their God.😢
It is called Ghost writing. I know about this because a pastor's widw told me her husband who was a pastor was asked by a mega SBC church in Florida to write articles for the senior pastor . The Senior pastor took credit for the articles by putting his name on the articles as the author . I never agreed with this practice.
Totally agree but serious question! Where do you draw the line? Is it OK to use any Internet resources? Can a pastor go to websites that offer sermon ideas but not full outlines? Can they go to websites that answer difficult questions as a research tool? What about commentaries? How about this as an extreme example: What about using AI to create an outline but the meat of the sermon is all their own material?
No man coming immediately out of seminary should be considered automatically qualified to be an elder. 1 Timothy 3 gives clear qualifications if a man desires to be an elder and being a qualified teacher of God's word is absolutely necessary plus other qualifications. These qualifications imply that a congregation should be finding elders within their own congregation, men they know, including their biblical qualifications.
Nearly no congregation really knows those they are accepting as elders, many times those graduating an institution are immediately becoming elders.
Yes. A man has to have attended our church for at least 2 years before he can be considered for Elder. He also cannot serve more than 2 consecutive terms of 3years. (He can serve again after a break)
This goes on in far more denominations than the SBC. I've talked to a few people about this subject, and most of them "Yawn" like you've said. I've been told basically that as long as Gods word is being preached, they don't care. Personally, if a preacher announces that he is using an outline, or another pastors sermon as a guide; I am generally OK with that. Cheating and lying is sin.
Grace for You (John MacArthur) gives all sermons freely on their site and any books by them, even the first free one come with a scannable UPC code that allows you to have the book read by MacArthur as you read.
The church I grew up at, the Pastor was plagiarizing John MacArthur sermons for years. I caught him through listening to John MacArthur on RUclips. The FBI also caught him pedaling child pornography. The plagiarized sermon is a symptom of a deeper Spiritual issue. Pray and support your Pastor through this temptation!
This is one of MANY reasons I went to E. Orthodoxy. SBC couldn't even agree to Nicene Creed...yikes.
Hi.....this is heinous......using AI to write sermons. 😢😮
Does anyone know how we as congregants can "check on" our pastor's sermons? I have had a niggling feeling lately that our church's pastors do not spend much time in weekly sermon preparation. Thanks
Ask that the sermons be transcribed on paper, then go over it and find key words then check them online.
@@visaman Thanks! That actually makes sense!
Thumbnail looks like Matt Walsh :😂
Good word
If the pastor can't deliver the message, I don't care how they came up with it.
as a ordained minister I have studied 25 or more hours on messages and get to the pulpit the lord change my mind and sermon. if you don't stay prayed up and studied up the preacher or pastor could windup looking foolish and maybe do irreversible damage to himself, the congregation showing his worthless as preacher/ pastor. only mere words but lifeless, just a speaker with no heart in the word of God. the congregation instead of being fed from the masters 😊table ,sitting on a park bench eating cardboard. study the word if your going to preach it. no excuses, no exceptions. Papa wishing you well 😊
as a southern baptist that didn't know pastors where using AI i am confused. they should have the holy spirit right there in their soul so they don't need AI.
A big name preaching prof teaches you how to do this. So many many many pastors have been trained in seminary to get sermon illustrations and put them in a card catalog to pull out when needed. We were told to find hundreds, if not thousands of them. So a certain denom - cough cough, you may guess which one - has been teaching this for decades. They are just doing what this preaching prof taught them.
on top of that a church scouted me a few years ago from out west. They were looking for a guy who would just preach certain pastors sermons...