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The Moody Blues vs. Patrick Moraz - The Music Trial of the Century Part 3
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2017
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I love this guy, God Bless you Ray Thomas, From Mighty Oaks.
Ray was never business minded. Probably the most purely artistic member of the band. All he cared about was music. RIP ❤️
I love listening to Ray! He just has things that he’s not interested in so he has nothing to say.
I miss Ray Thomas. I miss all of them that have gone on before us, but Ray, with his Flute, or any other instrument he played was always my favorite.
It was John Lodge who was an engineer before joining the moodies, NOT Ray thomas, sheesh, that presenter needs to get her facts right🙄
John Lodge was an engineering student before joining the Moodies in 1966 (Apparently, Rod Clarke was hired temporarily after Clint Warwick's departure; pending John's starting after graduation). I don't know if he was ever a practicing engineer (seems unlikely since he has been a full time professional musician ever since).
@@johnries5593 yes,he completed his course/degree,but obviously didn't use it,but would have come in handy years ahead with techincal side of music?
I'm with the Moodies. They said Moraz was a contract player. Just because he was on the album cover doesn't mean he was a permanent member. It just meant that he played on that album. I am biased because I didn't like his music, but the MB were still great without him.
I can’t take a side because I’m not privy to the applicable laws and contracts. Presumably Moraz is very accomplished musician, but he would seem an awkward fit as a full-fledged collaborator. More appropriate for a post-Bruford Yes.
Moraz was a session musician. That’s all
@@andrewarthurmatthews6685 To me, his keyboards sounded too much like Yes and made the Moody Blues sound more pop than prog rock. I could be wrong but I really missed Mike Pinder's keyboards.
@@patriciaelg1464 in total agreement😊
Moraz should have been happy with what he got. IMO, He was never a part of The Moody Blues.
Exactly.
The Moodie Blues made it big in the 1960s. They had hits and made world tours in the 1960s.., long before Patrick came along.... that's why the original 4 had their inner circle,... Patrick stepped into fame and a world class supergroup.
without the Moody blues, Patrick would be relatively unknown...even though he was a hired keyboard player for Yes.
Yes only hired him until Rick Wakeman returned.
Patrick should have played it cool and taken the money that the Moody Blues was paying him..and made extra money making music for movies
This whole court presentation is so ugly
lawers are ugly...judges are ugly.....and our music heros on the witness stand is horrible....we want to see them on stage...not being humiliated by demon possessed lawyers
nobody wins in a circus court...
These are pretty typical lawyers and a pretty typical judge, I’m sorry to report. Both the Moody Blues and Moraz in their testimony seem to me much more reasonable, likable and better behaved than any of the three legal “professionals”. (I put “professionals” in scare quotes because Moraz’s lawyer and the judge can’t even bother to be grammatical.)
@@jeffryphillipsburns Neither can you; "Bother to be grammatical", that is!
He was an actual member of Yes. He was quite well-known as a result of this.
Yeah, it's hard to judge this without knowing all the details. But on the surface it appears that Moraz WAS indeed in the band - and for more than 10 years - with his picture on the album covers and all. So to claim that he was not a full member, and merely a hired backup musician, seems kind of ridiculous.
It rather depends what “full member” actually means legally. Apparently already by the time of “Aqualung” the members of Jethro Tull who weren’t named “Ian Anderson” were getting paid per performance per track. The Rolling Stones have used several of the same musicians as sidemen for far longer than a decade.
@@jeffryphillipsburns Well I think the issue was that "full member" was not defined, so both parties made arguments. However, how many backup musicians get their picture with the group on album covers (when he's the only one) and time and time again elsewhere?
He was their keyboard player, thats why. Didn't you hear the part, where Moraz always brought his lawyers in, before any recording or tour. He was the only one to make money from The Present, all the other guys lost money. He obviously wasn't a team player.
I seem to recall that Patrick Moraz was hardly the first band member to be ejected by his mates. The Byrds fired David Crosby and he was a founding member. What Moraz wasn't, though, was a stockholder in Threshold as the others were.