Gaia wasn't the first to be born. The first was Nyxta, the primordial night. She is the eldest being in existence, the original bearer of the torch and she who even Zeus fears.
@@Archelaus42 Hesiod's Theogony has Gaia, Tartarus, and Nyx in order as the protogenoi after and from Chaos. Eros and Erebus are sired afterwards with Eros being the youngest
These stories are thousands of years old and have been told differently by different sources. It's a bit silly to act like any answer is the definitive one.
I would love to see Nox/Nyx in Blood of Zeus! You guys think Gaia is over powered? Do some research on Nyx. She is the first diety in this pantheon. The mother of Thanatos and Hypnos. Hera had Hypnos put Zeus to sleep and when Zeus found out he went to kill Hypnos, but Hypnos ran to his mother Nyx for protection. Zeus was afraid if Nyx and did nothing.
There's a triology series by Claire Andrews with Nyx as the antagonist who wants to overthrow Zeus(spolier but it's the plot) I read the first book Daughter of Sparta. Fun world building, I haven't so many gods featuring in a single book for a while. Plus fair portrayal of men while having a headstrong female lead.
Im kind of confused with Eros. I thought of him as Aphrodite’s son husband of Psyke. Later i heard that he came before Aphrodite , I wonder if there were originally 2 Eros
I believe that Aphrodite named her son after the primordial god, it would make sense this way. The fact that Eros and Himeros were under Aphrodite's command tells us so much about her powers.
Chaos was also a Primordial Goddess, Hesiod describes her as such: "[The War of the Titanes (Titans) :] [Zeus] came forthwith, hurling his lightning . . . flame unspeakable rose to the bright upper air: the flashing glare of the thunder--stone and lightning blinded their eyes for all that there were strong. Astounding heat seized Khaos (the Chasm) [the Air] : and to see with eyes and to hear the sound with ears it seemed even as if Gaia (Gaea, Earth) and wide Ouranos (Uranus, Heaven) above came together."
I think of it the other way around. Chaos is just a pattern so vast and complex that mortal minds cannot comprehend it, giving the illusion of randomness.
I learned a long time ago that mythology isn't linear and you're going to go crazy trying to figure out a "timeline." 😂 I now say "because mythology" 🤷🏼♀️🤣
yeah, mythology has been shaped and changed so much over the years that the stories are all different to fit the morals of the time. every myth has multiple different and drastic versions and all of them are cannon. so it's pretty much a choose-your-own adventure where you pick and choose which ones you like more... or mesh them together.
Chronos and Kronos were often thought of as one being. Hesiod’s Theogony doesn’t mention Chronos as separate. It also doesn’t mention Ananke. Those two come from a later creation myth. Greek mythology is a collection of stories from multiple time periods that sometimes contradicted each other. I also want to mention Thalassa, the child of Aether and Hemera, the female counterpart to Pontus. The two ran across Gaia from opposite directions, fell in love upon meeting and mixed their waters producing all the sea creatures.
@@adamhenry7043 No, Cicero makes clear the King of the Titans is Father time, they were one and the same, besides, the pair of Rhea and Kronos means "Flow of Time"
These primordial deities are clues that shows the pagan Greek religion was made by philosophers and practiced by philosophers. Ordinary man calls such practices mystery cult and such philosophers mystic.
First off greek mythology is complex, because what does that even mean? Are we talking about the Greeks or about which state that we call Greek now. Also some of this is Roman translations, but if you were to call Athens greek at one time you would be shot with an arrow 😂. I know I sound like a true hipster here but when people ask questions like I thought this was so and so kid, well what people did the story come from. Case in point zeus was a title dio was his name, poseidon was zeus of ocean, and Hades was zeus of the underworld. Poseidon was God of the ocean but hekate was the goddess of the dark water. We call this ocean now or blue water or deep sea, ships did not go that far out and still few navy's have the fleets to do this. This is still a big deal. Also nyx was not the goddess of the night bad translations she was the mother of sleep, dreams, fates, prophecy, if you looked up and and saw the stars, planets, constellations that was hers gravity the galaxies her husband was ebrus the incompassing the dark(like a black hole if you will) zeus did not fight nyx because you see him in the sky she moves him at her will.😂 we have words for this now as well ....god i love mythology 😂❤
@@shiekahfan01 Father Time is a being separate from Cronus since time started with the birth of Father Time and time existed since before the Titans. Also Father Time has depictions that are different from Cronus Edit: I just used Google and searched "father time ancient greece" and it says "Father Time can be traced back to its association with the Greek god of Time, Chronos. Both Chronos and Father Time are depicted as an old man with a wise expression that is usually bearded and wearing robes." Meanwhile Cronus is depicted as anything but an old man, he looks like he is at the prime of his immortal life. Also I looked it up in Wikipedia and it has different articles for Chronos and Cronus. In the Chronos article it says "Chronos is frequently confused with, or perhaps consciously identified with, the Titan, Cronus, in antiquity, due to the similarity in names. The identification became more widespread during the Renaissance, giving rise to the iconography of Father Time wielding the harvesting scythe.". Lastly, the names are completely different and Greek speakers won't even confuse the two: Cronus=Κρόνος & Chronos=Χρόνος. Socrates said that the name Cronus comes from the words "κόρος (koros)" meaning "clear" and "νους (noose)" meaning "mind". If you want an easy to digest video showing the creation of the ancient Greek world up to the point where the Olympians ruled, Overly Sarcastic Productions have done a really good job explaining things with proper and excessive research.
@@nixodian108 yeah I hate to burst your bubble, google is free: "In Greek mythology, 'Father Time' is represented by the Titan named Cronus (also spelled Chronos), who is the personification of time itself; the Greek word 'chronos' directly translates to 'time'."
@@shiekahfan01 I just used Google by typing "father time ancient greece" and it says: "Father Time can be traced back to its association with the Greek god of Time, Chronos. Both Chronos and Father Time are depicted as an old man with a wise expression that is usually bearded and wearing robes.". Cronus is never depicted as an old man, on the contrary, he appears at the prime of his immortal life. Also in Wikipedia there are separate articles for Cronus and Chronos and in the Chronos article it says "Chronos is frequently confused with, or perhaps consciously identified with, the Titan, Cronus, in antiquity, due to the similarity in names. The identification became more widespread during the Renaissance, giving rise to the iconography of Father Time wielding the harvesting scythe.". Lastly the names in Greek are completely different and no native speaker confuses the two: Cronus=Κρόνος & Chronos=Χρόνος. If you want an easy summary of the creation of the ancient Greek world go watch OverlySarcasticProfuction's video on the Theogony, it is accurate with great research on the topic.
@@shiekahfan01 I just used Google and searched "father time ancient greece" and it says "Father Time can be traced back to its association with the Greek god of Time, Chronos. Both Chronos and Father Time are depicted as an old man with a wise expression that is usually bearded and wearing robes." Meanwhile Cronus is depicted as anything but an old man, he looks like he is at the prime of his immortal life. Also I looked it up in Wikipedia and it has different articles for Chronos and Cronus. In the Chronos article it says "Chronos is frequently confused with, or perhaps consciously identified with, the Titan, Cronus, in antiquity, due to the similarity in names. The identification became more widespread during the Renaissance, giving rise to the iconography of Father Time wielding the harvesting scythe.". Lastly, the names are completely different and Greek speakers won't even confuse the two: Cronus=Κρόνος & Chronos=Χρόνος. Socrates said that the name Cronus comes from the words "κόρος (koros)" meaning "clear" and "νους (noose)" meaning "mind", an etymology that has nothing to do with "χρόνος (chronos)" meaning "time". If you want an easy to digest video showing the creation of the ancient Greek world up to the point where the Olympians ruled, Overly Sarcastic Productions have done a really good job explaining things with proper and excessive research.
Leave it to a British accented CG narrator to not only mispronounce the names of Gods of Greece But mixed the names of Ouranos with Uranus. The first is Greek. The former is Roman.
Gaia wasn't the first to be born. The first was Nyxta, the primordial night. She is the eldest being in existence, the original bearer of the torch and she who even Zeus fears.
Take it up with Hesiod
Wasn't the oldest actually Khaos, the primeval soup?
@@AngerySnek Nuxta and Erebos, night and darkness were said to be the first born from Khaos.
@@Archelaus42 Hesiod's Theogony has Gaia, Tartarus, and Nyx in order as the protogenoi after and from Chaos. Eros and Erebus are sired afterwards with Eros being the youngest
These stories are thousands of years old and have been told differently by different sources. It's a bit silly to act like any answer is the definitive one.
I would love to see Nox/Nyx in Blood of Zeus! You guys think Gaia is over powered? Do some research on Nyx. She is the first diety in this pantheon. The mother of Thanatos and Hypnos. Hera had Hypnos put Zeus to sleep and when Zeus found out he went to kill Hypnos, but Hypnos ran to his mother Nyx for protection. Zeus was afraid if Nyx and did nothing.
There's a triology series by Claire Andrews with Nyx as the antagonist who wants to overthrow Zeus(spolier but it's the plot) I read the first book Daughter of Sparta. Fun world building, I haven't so many gods featuring in a single book for a while. Plus fair portrayal of men while having a headstrong female lead.
This is how i arrange and pair them:
First-Born Protogenoi:
Phanes/Eros + Physis
Greater Protogenoi:
Tartarus + Chaos
Hydros + Thesis
Chronos + Ananke
Uranus + Gaia
Lesser Protogenoi:
Erebus + Nyx
Aether + Hemera
Pontus + Thalassa
Ourea + Nesoi
Im kind of confused with Eros. I thought of him as Aphrodite’s son husband of Psyke. Later i heard that he came before Aphrodite , I wonder if there were originally 2 Eros
He was described first as a primordial god then later as the son of aphrodite and ares, i think ota because he was being confused by Cupid
theres two eros.
There are three Eros: the primordial, the son of Aphrodite and Cupid
@@Sebastianejttechnically 3. Every primordial God is 2 beings: the God and the thing itself.
I believe that Aphrodite named her son after the primordial god, it would make sense this way. The fact that Eros and Himeros were under Aphrodite's command tells us so much about her powers.
Some of the Protogenoi were quite brutal/savage.
Because the natural world was brutal and savage.
13:03 He got some balls to do that 👀
This was a really good video! Where is the art from? It was spectacular
Great history lesson here! The art used in this presentation is absolutely beautiful! Thanks!
Chaos was also a Primordial Goddess, Hesiod describes her as such:
"[The War of the Titanes (Titans) :] [Zeus] came forthwith, hurling his lightning . . . flame unspeakable rose to the bright upper air: the flashing glare of the thunder--stone and lightning blinded their eyes for all that there were strong. Astounding heat seized Khaos (the Chasm) [the Air] : and to see with eyes and to hear the sound with ears it seemed even as if Gaia (Gaea, Earth) and wide Ouranos (Uranus, Heaven) above came together."
No gender given
Can’t wait for the Titans 😊
I like the art style on your thumbs, is that your art?
No
❤🤍💙 all your video's mate👍
As a Neopagan what a wonderful channel! Thank you for all your time doing this.
Earth Mother, Sky Father
Water Bros
Time itself
And sky father is earth mother's own son. And husband.
Aunt Nyx
Uncle erebos
Uncle Chronos(not the titan that's Cronus)
Very similar to Hawaiian mythology
2:29 Nah, bro. It's more like "I will show you heaven, Mother 😏"
5 ads in a 15 minute video is too many. Wtf RUclips?
This guy good for the mythology.
Uranus was the Roman name. Ouranos would be a more accurate name.
An infinite chaos contains the illusion of pattern.
I think of it the other way around. Chaos is just a pattern so vast and complex that mortal minds cannot comprehend it, giving the illusion of randomness.
I thought I had a pretty good solid bead on greek mythology, but I'd always thought Eros was the son of Aphrodite.. what's the deal here?? lol
He's actually both depending on the source. Mythology is crazy!
I learned a long time ago that mythology isn't linear and you're going to go crazy trying to figure out a "timeline." 😂 I now say "because mythology" 🤷🏼♀️🤣
religions evolve over the years, ironically enough ...
I like the explanation that Aphrodite named her son after primordial Eros.
yeah, mythology has been shaped and changed so much over the years that the stories are all different to fit the morals of the time. every myth has multiple different and drastic versions and all of them are cannon. so it's pretty much a choose-your-own adventure where you pick and choose which ones you like more... or mesh them together.
It says"in Truth at first chaos came to be".
What made chaos be if there was not supposed to be anything before chaos.
Good question but according to the myth, there was nothing. Chaos was the first thing to ever exist.
@@pantheonmythology another question how could chaos exist without existence itself?
@@Noneed-bu7xb 🤯
@@Noneed-bu7xb😂 a profound problem indeed.
it's turtles all the way down
The original gods
No! I am.
How does this connect to the names of the gods coming from Egypt as told by Herodotus ?
The Greeks believed the Egyptian gods were the olympians taking animal forms to flee Typhon, the monstrous son of Gia and Tartarus.
Where did u get the art work for nyx?
I thought that Nyx was born before Gaia
depends on who you ask really
Hemera coming from arguably the most goth gods.
URANUS is also the God of Bad Puns :)
So, 30 seconds in and you have a terrible typo.
"MYTHOLOY"?
Doh 🤦
what about chronos: time.
Kronos was a Titan...son of the Primordial gods Uranus and Gaea.
(Heaven and Earth)
Youngest of 12.
Chronos, the husband of Ananke
Chronos is the Primordial of Time itself. Kronos is the Titan of agriculture.
Chronos and Kronos were often thought of as one being. Hesiod’s Theogony doesn’t mention Chronos as separate. It also doesn’t mention Ananke. Those two come from a later creation myth. Greek mythology is a collection of stories from multiple time periods that sometimes contradicted each other. I also want to mention Thalassa, the child of Aether and Hemera, the female counterpart to Pontus. The two ran across Gaia from opposite directions, fell in love upon meeting and mixed their waters producing all the sea creatures.
@@adamhenry7043 No, Cicero makes clear the King of the Titans is Father time, they were one and the same, besides, the pair of Rhea and Kronos means "Flow of Time"
Can I ask the source of the art used? AI?
I used Midjourney to create the artwork for this video. I'll usually credit the artists in the description if I source artwork online.
For a vailed woman, Nyx certainly reveals quite a bit of herself...
So you trying to tell me that Uranos was an asshole?
These primordial deities are clues that shows the pagan Greek religion was made by philosophers and practiced by philosophers. Ordinary man calls such practices mystery cult and such philosophers mystic.
2:26
Its not Youranus, its U-ranus.
Apparently none of then were immortal
PRO-TO-GEN-OI
First off greek mythology is complex, because what does that even mean? Are we talking about the Greeks or about which state that we call Greek now. Also some of this is Roman translations, but if you were to call Athens greek at one time you would be shot with an arrow 😂. I know I sound like a true hipster here but when people ask questions like I thought this was so and so kid, well what people did the story come from. Case in point zeus was a title dio was his name, poseidon was zeus of ocean, and Hades was zeus of the underworld. Poseidon was God of the ocean but hekate was the goddess of the dark water. We call this ocean now or blue water or deep sea, ships did not go that far out and still few navy's have the fleets to do this. This is still a big deal.
Also nyx was not the goddess of the night bad translations she was the mother of sleep, dreams, fates, prophecy, if you looked up and and saw the stars, planets, constellations that was hers gravity the galaxies her husband was ebrus the incompassing the dark(like a black hole if you will) zeus did not fight nyx because you see him in the sky she moves him at her will.😂 we have words for this now as well ....god i love mythology 😂❤
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Ass ain’t even the word to describe the defense that’s what happens when they front office is broke
There is one more important primordial who is maybe at the same level as Chaos: Father Time
Cronus, son of Gaia and King of the Titans, is Father Time. Not part of the Protogenoi.
@@shiekahfan01 Father Time is a being separate from Cronus since time started with the birth of Father Time and time existed since before the Titans. Also Father Time has depictions that are different from Cronus
Edit:
I just used Google and searched "father time ancient greece" and it says "Father Time can be traced back to its association with the Greek god of Time, Chronos. Both Chronos and Father Time are depicted as an old man with a wise expression that is usually bearded and wearing robes." Meanwhile Cronus is depicted as anything but an old man, he looks like he is at the prime of his immortal life.
Also I looked it up in Wikipedia and it has different articles for Chronos and Cronus. In the Chronos article it says "Chronos is frequently confused with, or perhaps consciously identified with, the Titan, Cronus, in antiquity, due to the similarity in names. The identification became more widespread during the Renaissance, giving rise to the iconography of Father Time wielding the harvesting scythe.".
Lastly, the names are completely different and Greek speakers won't even confuse the two: Cronus=Κρόνος & Chronos=Χρόνος. Socrates said that the name Cronus comes from the words "κόρος (koros)" meaning "clear" and "νους (noose)" meaning "mind".
If you want an easy to digest video showing the creation of the ancient Greek world up to the point where the Olympians ruled, Overly Sarcastic Productions have done a really good job explaining things with proper and excessive research.
@@nixodian108 yeah I hate to burst your bubble, google is free: "In Greek mythology, 'Father Time' is represented by the Titan named Cronus (also spelled Chronos), who is the personification of time itself; the Greek word 'chronos' directly translates to 'time'."
@@shiekahfan01 I just used Google by typing "father time ancient greece" and it says: "Father Time can be traced back to its association with the Greek god of Time, Chronos. Both Chronos and Father Time are depicted as an old man with a wise expression that is usually bearded and wearing robes.". Cronus is never depicted as an old man, on the contrary, he appears at the prime of his immortal life.
Also in Wikipedia there are separate articles for Cronus and Chronos and in the Chronos article it says "Chronos is frequently confused with, or perhaps consciously identified with, the Titan, Cronus, in antiquity, due to the similarity in names. The identification became more widespread during the Renaissance, giving rise to the iconography of Father Time wielding the harvesting scythe.".
Lastly the names in Greek are completely different and no native speaker confuses the two: Cronus=Κρόνος & Chronos=Χρόνος.
If you want an easy summary of the creation of the ancient Greek world go watch OverlySarcasticProfuction's video on the Theogony, it is accurate with great research on the topic.
@@shiekahfan01
I just used Google and searched "father time ancient greece" and it says "Father Time can be traced back to its association with the Greek god of Time, Chronos. Both Chronos and Father Time are depicted as an old man with a wise expression that is usually bearded and wearing robes." Meanwhile Cronus is depicted as anything but an old man, he looks like he is at the prime of his immortal life.
Also I looked it up in Wikipedia and it has different articles for Chronos and Cronus. In the Chronos article it says "Chronos is frequently confused with, or perhaps consciously identified with, the Titan, Cronus, in antiquity, due to the similarity in names. The identification became more widespread during the Renaissance, giving rise to the iconography of Father Time wielding the harvesting scythe.".
Lastly, the names are completely different and Greek speakers won't even confuse the two: Cronus=Κρόνος & Chronos=Χρόνος. Socrates said that the name Cronus comes from the words "κόρος (koros)" meaning "clear" and "νους (noose)" meaning "mind", an etymology that has nothing to do with "χρόνος (chronos)" meaning "time".
If you want an easy to digest video showing the creation of the ancient Greek world up to the point where the Olympians ruled, Overly Sarcastic Productions have done a really good job explaining things with proper and excessive research.
The ones with breastess??
Leave it to a British accented CG narrator to not only mispronounce the names of Gods of Greece But mixed the names of Ouranos with Uranus. The first is Greek. The former is Roman.
Thanks for the feedback. Will make sure it's correct in the future. It's not a CG narrator though!
I am greek and i had no issue with mispronunciations. Its fine most greeks don’t know these things let alone their names 😅
@ Yassou Stelios It’s annoying when people who are “educated “, can’t be bothered to or are too lazy to pronounce properly.
Chaos genderless? I see ancient greeks went woke too 😞
I’m sorry, but the Greeks should have put a little more thought into it when they named their gods.
😂 I can't tell if you are trolling. We get our names for this stuff from them not the other way around. Lol
You're anthropromorphizing the primordial gods. Gaea is the literal Earth
11:35 I see what you did here 😅