Water-maker Disassembly and Repair : Katadyn Powersurvivor
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Our water-maker fails, so Troy strips it down and troubleshoots the problem. As water-makers require periodic seal replacement, we hope this video shows others how simple it is, to field service a Katadyn Watermaker.
Along the way, we hope to share a bit of general know-how when pulling things apart and getting them to go back together!
*Note: We are not sponsored by, or affiliated with, Katadyn in any way. We purchased our Katadyn Powersurvivor outright in 2017.
Well done Troy. Excellent video. A couple of years ago i acquired a katadyn water maker that was destined for the dumpster. A good swap for a carton of beer. In recommissioning the unit i stumbled across a fellow by the name of Gary Albers in California. Gary was a early user of these units especially their forerunner the PUR Powersuvivor, which was the unit i had. Gary was extremely generous with his time and knowledge (as are most of the yachting community). Gary had written a book on the unit which can be found via the link at tne end of this text. Excellent background and compliments the manual www.ishipaco.com/katadyn/
Thanks *very* much for the link! A very informative book indeed.. And nice of Gary to make it a free download. @ Troy, you might find it interesting to check out.
Unfortunately the site is dead now
Any idea how to get ahold of Gary now?
Who would have thunk….
After all these years !
Have one on these units on my “forever boat” I got last year.
Poor thing sat in the Daintree river for over a year😢
Thanks a heap now for a rebuild of the unit.
Enjoy the ranch, Molly and each other❤
I just bought this water maker. But living in Norway, it hasn’t been used that much. But watching this, I have already ordered a repair kit. And I can inform you that Norway is also quite expensive 😁
Iam a U.S. citizen that has often questioned the imperial system. I must say that your comment about the moon landings is a very valid point on a few levels. Mostly it represents a huge investment, but it also represents soemthing that has been proven successful. My boat was built in Florida and has yanmar engines in it. Dammit.
I love the troubleshooting and repair videos almost as much as the spearfishing ones. There are fancier RUclips channels but none more entertaining. Keep on ranging.
Agree
You just gave us an incredibly detailed description of how to disassemble and rebuild an internally geared bicycle hub. Your advice and wisdom is wide. Many things apply in many places. Fear not say you. Logic and ordering the disassembled parts will prevail. :) And it generally does. Thanks my man, for emboldening the masses to repair / service their broken stuff. It's got to be better for the environment to repair than replace. In today's disposable society many people, regardless of cost, throw perfectly good stuff away for want of a cheap and easy o ring or capacitor. May your grease be greasy and your gaffa tape stick.
Thanks mate, great video, and a pleasure to watch!
I was looking in order to find out how to take off the part at the back of the membrane, but you cut just that part! I guess it was to avoid showing how rude you need to be on the watermaker to take it apart? Mine is quite jammed (just salvaged from a sunk ship after one month underwater), i'll try going harder I guess.
One little thing, your method is perfect for a joint replacement, but if you need to access the membrane only, it is way faster and easier to do so on the other side. There is a metal spring ring blocking the end by the potable water output, easy to take out with thin plyers and a flat screwdriver (careful not to rip)
Sorry if you mention it later on the video, no time to watch it all.
Thanks again!
and i really like that when your doing the work and explaining stuff Pascale isnt in the background asking "how long before your done" or "you said it will only take so long" "is that right" and all those other comments ( That my wife ask LOL ) that puts you under the extra stress that ends up with something being broken or forgotten to be done, Pascale's questions and comments help give us all a better job being completed correctly As i said love your videos
That's when you tell your wife "This is hard enough without you kibitzing me.. If you've nothing positive to contribute, be elsewhere for a while..."
@@Garryck-1after i say what your last statement,,,,,,, that's when i get to sleep on the couch for a week lol
ive watched everyone of your episodes, and i dont ever recall you mentioning that you had a water maker, especially a 12v one !
Katadyn will benefit from your video too. Clear feedback to them about failures will be of great help to them. They should sell a washer kit with the new models. Save labor and hopefully keep the cost of the kit down. You are a great teacher.
Thank you for the captions. I lost some of my hearing in Vietnam (1971) and some to playing in a band(s) that were way to loud. The captions allow me to figure out what you are saying.
Man after my own heart. My old friend Scott use to say, not going off shore without Bob on board.
Who would have thought it !! Here I am 71 years old in the centre of the uk, far from the sea , never sailed in my life, watching as always your videos , about water makers service , nothing further from MY life , but you have a gift of teaching and being interesting ! Both of you I mean, crocodile Dundee is not patch on you. All you need now is an Aussie hat with corks round the rim and a FRS logo on the front.😂😂😂😂, perhaps you could make a video about making one and sell the instructions in black and white sketch form😂😂😂😂,thank you and Gday
Great video being an retired maintenance man at an industrial where I rebuilt all kinds of equipment I do enjoy your tech videos and hope that you keep making them. See you the next time and safe sailing.
Awesome video, LOVE these in-depth technical looks at Mirrool and her systems, I learn so much from them all.
Don't get me wrong, the "normal living" videos are great too, but I feel like maintenance and repairs are a part of that life that not many channels show, so thank you for keeping it in!
(but yes a water maker always seemed like a black box so you have inspired me. Never had one, can't afford new one but I bet I can find super cheap used one. Thx)
Nice DIY information, being a boat owner thing like this can be useful, I'm land locked hear in South Illinois USA however when I take on blue water sailing after retirement good info. Thanks
Those exploded diagrams can often extricate one from deep manure. They're also useful to ensure one uses the same vocabulary as the mfr. rep. Glad you got things sorted out.
Troy, I really enjoy the how to videos that you do. Your patience and methodical approach is admirable. With regard to your adherence to instructions, manuals, and technical diagrams, it puts me in mind of my father's words, (and mine to my sons), "RTFM!".. Read The F*cking Manual. Thanks again for another tutorial.
Great vid T + P, as always!
I love the way you step us through things.
I've seen a few watermaker vids but none have been as clear and comprehensive as this.
Much appreciated. Keep up the good works!
Another well done video!!
Thank you Troy and Pascal for your excellent tutorial on this watermaker. I'm still learning Aussie speak, but I'm getting better. We thoroughly enjoy your videos, great quality, wonderful content. We hope to install a watermaker on our boat in future. This video was helpful in that decision process. Best of luck in all you do. Dave & Linda M/S Olivebank S/V Banyanda Kittery Point Maine USA
Excellent as usual!!!
I have worked around a lot of heavy construction equipment. It seems to me that an O'ring kit from Caterpillar and Kumatzu. Imperial and Metric., would do wonders for cruisers like yourself.
These kits come with all sorts, of different sizes of o'rings.
Nice one Troy. It's always great to get the benefit of your no nonsense explanations and practical experience. You'll need to get FRS 'boat maintenance shorts' added to the clothing catalogue 🙂
BRILLIANT, like it a lot,& you'll find with most things, so long as you go about it in the right process & get to know how it does,what it does,the anxiety disappears & the smile reappears....easy peasie......cheers
Thoroughly enjoyed this. We have the same watermaker - Katadyne 40E. I bought it three years ago, but have not needed to install it until now. After watching your rebuild, I'm more confident in owning ours. See you out there!
I like it when past me leaves clear notes and descriptions. Sometimes past me is a great guy! Also: line art is much easier to print clearly, photos are a technical challenge at both ends.
Great job, Troy !!
: You are very handy. Unfortunately for me, reading instructions doesn't work as well as someone showing me. If someone shows me once I usually have it but that's not always feasible. Thanks for the video. Wishing you safe and smooth sailing.
You legend Troy. I have exactly the same watermaker, and now know it most likely needs servicing. Thanks for the advice on videoing what you do. I probably would have a record of how I stuffed my back if I had done that 10 days ago.
Thank you Troy and Pascale, another great diy video and encouragement to anyone who thought they couldn't diy. Awesome, as always.
Great video. It's good to know what you can't do as well as what you can.
There he goes,floating off Guruing again!You are a natural born one Troy!Good on us!
Top stuff and on a Tuesday too. Water maker maintenance is super useful and necessary. I learnt heaps from this thanks alot.
Once again Troy, you blow me away with your mechanical knowledge. Love your videos...
Good stuff. My boat came with that watermaker from the previous owner, and I hadn't gotten around to using/reading the manual on it yet. Helpful, and I'll have to do a preventative seal replacement since I don't know the number of hours on it.
The only thing missing in this video was the beautiful and talented Pascal...!
I really enjoy your "how to" videos. You have a way of describing the the repairs with clarity. Thanks teacher.
By the way, if you talk to yourself in the future and get a reply you may have a problem.
Another excellent, enlightening and informative vid. I am a relative newbie to your channel and I am seriously digging it. Well done !!!
Very good. Most freak about carburetors also
Great video. Thank you !
I love all your videos and especially repair and instructional ones. Very well done!!
Thank you and blessings on your journeys!
Nice to share your pragmatic problem solving approach!
Good to know I can still trust my "mechanical-sympathy" instincts - they were telling me straight away it was the o-ring was to blame :)
heya nice DIY repairing the water maker
First let me say another great video.
I can't see myself ever sailing let alone living off a boat but I love watching your videos and a lot of what you do is transferable to many different life styles.
The only thing I would suggest for future videos like this one is to use the supplied grease to show if there is enough or not supplied (I know you said there was but seeing is believing), if there is not then people may order extra when they order there kit. If you chose not to use it for another reason then this info also may help others, for example if it is a quality preference then people again could chose to order better quality. I think you know what I mean.
Keep up the good work and I will keep watching from dry land.
hi guys and girls.Your very handy bro.You know how to repair things and make em work.We learn a lot watching you both from your videos.Thank you for sharing your life with us through your videos.We love you both ❤️.Safe travels always on the waters
My favourite episode so far, thanks for the tips and tricks
Another brilliant video! Thank you.
Great video Troy. Just got the same water maker (second hand) - its working now but I will plan to give it a full service soon.
Nice video guys . Thank you.
Enjoyed the video. I've never been afraid to take anything apart for repairs. Some are just not mechanical minded & I understand this. You are very thorough with everything on your boat, it makes you & Pascale happy. Question being such a small piece of equipment how much water does it make in say 30 minutes or GPH & does it constantly run 24/7? If I had a yacht I would certainly have this equipment.
I like using a muffin pan for spacing out bits and fasteners as I take things apart to give me a step by step sequence of putting it back together.
Bonza great video cheers
Yes you guys still rock, life as it should be, proud to be Human XXX
Great video guys!
Troy, excellent video, well done. When will we see Pascal with a spanner? 😜👍👍
I enjoyed this video on water-makers, very much. You say petroleum products will kill a water-maker, probably a good reason not to turn on a water-maker in a harbour or an area with a high concentration boat traffic.
When I was a child I took apart a clock, a clockwork clock. It never worked again 🤣as I had no idea how to put it together again.
Great video! Troy, you have mad skills!... Luv watching u 2!...
Love when your fixing stuff. You guys are awesome. Fair winds,,,,,,,,,,/),,,,,,,,,, Because water makers do not like petroleum products, do you make a point to only draw seawater for water making when out at sea rather than in a marina for example where there may be oil or fuel on the water?
I'm with you Troy, td"s are the cats pyjamas. I kept all my Imperial spanners & sockets (but I'm 66, I don't chuck anything). Meta bi-sulphate ? A lot of the stuff you do seem's obvious to me (my hobby was rebuilding English '70's fibreglass sports cars ), but I'm sure that younger folks have no idea how to do it because they spend half their lives looking at their cell phone . You make a fantastic teacher
I turn 18 in sept , I understand & am reasonably competent in disassembly & reassembly of mechanical devices including small engine repairs. I'm also sure that there are older people that have no idea how to do stuff as well .
Absolutely ! Congratulations on your skill level , I only started learning at 18 @@p.a.f.mitasol8071
"Meta bi-sulphate?"
Sodium metabisulfite (Edit: it's a sulphITE, not a sulphATE) is a sterilising agent commonly used in home brewing, available in Australia in the home brew section of most large supermarkets. Sold as a dry powder you simply mix it with water when you need to sterilise a container.
I always have an imperial crescent to hand :-}
HAHAHA...LEFT AND RIGHT HANDED!!!
Me too, but the previous owner of the boat and device used an angle grinder on it and it slips. Oops, over the side...
Took me a moment to catch onto "Imperial" - here, we call it "SAE" .
Why doesn't the U.S. go metric?
Well...... we're hard-headed as hell, that's pretty much it, in a nutshell.
We "officially" went metric in 1976 (I know, I was there!) but our auto makers dragged their feet due to huge back-stocks of SAE hardware. Some went as far as to use a combination of SAE and metric fasteners for several years, necessitating we mechanics to drag out both boxes to work on their junk. Eventually, one large company put metric heads on SAE-sized and threaded bolts - I'm tellin' ya, this was really a fight to not conform!
Even today, our hardware stores only keep a small, weird stock of Metric hardware, and it is always prices at 5 to 10 times the price of similar-sized SAE hardware. Go figure!
After watching 40=odd of your videos, I think we'd work well together, Troy - you may take that as a big compliment. While I don't fully approve of a couple of your methods, you're young (I'm pokin' fun at ye, Mate) and you'll learn, given time.
I'm a 45+ year master in auto, with extensive experience in marine, diesel, aircraft, agricultural, and motorcycles. My kingdom for a single-standard world!
BUT!!! I've still not forgiven the Brits for their extended use of the utterly ridiculous Whitworth standard (and still keep a small Whitworth tool set, just in case.........
Troy is the only Brit I have ever actually heard make a graceful comment about the U.S. and their Imperial tools (putting a man on the moon with them), rather than the petty arguments you see in the comments about it.
@@Josef_R Certainly a graceful remark, agreed. As a U.S. citizen, I've never understood our reluctance to convert fully to Metric, thus my thoughts on the subject are less graceful. Kind of like those words that some can say about themselves, which would be taken exception to if uttered by others i.e. we motorcyclists calling one another "Scooter trash" - which isn't recommended for those outside our community to say. As to calling an Aussie a "Brit"..... well..... I've personally seen violence done over it. (chuckling).
So,... Troy,... tell me,... did you pick up a new set of "imperial" sized wrenches when you got back to town? Second, is this water maker's failure why you were almost running on water rations in a previous recent video? Also, as a bit of a wrench head myself, I have frequently enough use a container to hold the parts as you are, but unfortunately I also have now and then had the unlucky problem of accidentally dumping the whole works on the floor when trying to pull apart something that suddenly and unexpectedly gives way to my efforts. So I like putting the "parts container" up and away from the work surface as to make it harder to spill it's contents. And yet one more thing that may be helpful, when I have extra parts I have taken up the habit of putting them in a zip-lock freezer bag. So I have one container with several zip-lock bags in it and each bag has a note so I don't forget what their for.
Just a thought if you save them all o rings that is you could match them up with stucco rings
I would love to know why you chose that particular water maker. I value your expertise.
At such low amp draw, it matched the output of our solar and wind. Also, rugged design with the possibility of manual operation in emergency.
Love all your videos. If you are ever in Airlie again drop in on Felix, Pescott 11.7 Cat & say giday. Some trivia Rebuilding my watermaker. A spectra ventura 150 & working out that for 2150 hours over 4 years & 4 months, it has cost me 34¢ per litre
if I'd paid that much for a watermaker I would expect it to work flawlessly for the first 1000 hrs.
a light might be helpful on these inside repair discussions.
lol love the advice its all great even the talking to yourself bit
Always wondered if the machinery uses standard parts for things like screws, nuts, bolts & washers so those parts are readily ordered.
Have you thought about using Metrinch spanners, they fit both metric and imperial, not cheap but you only need the one set ti fit both sizes
Thanks for the suggestion.. I looked into them some, and saw some impressive testimonials.. I can definitely see a set in my future.
@@Garryck-1 i use both the spanners and small socket set and they're brilliant, better than Sidchrome in my view.very well finished and at least halves the excess weight that you have to carry in the boat, bought mine some time ago through Bunnings, cheers Darryl
What kind of frig do you have? Love what you do.
And in the states we also use hemostats to hold the last bit of a joint or "roach" hence the name "roach clip",...but I'm sure you know that...lol
Acapulco gold filters?
@@l4rrikin 😂
metabisulfate??? what is that and how do you make the solution? Where do you get meta-whatever bi-sulfate ??? especially since you had "no" fresh water???
Can you explain the reference to metabisulphate? Katadyn was unwilling to supply a preservative name for me. We are in Belize and it is expensive to import most things. Friends tried to bring it in their carry on from the states and it was confiscated at the border. Thanks Rene
Hemostats make great roach clips too. Lol. ( legal here in Canada)
Thanks, I learned a few things, but imperial bolts..., what are they thinking?! ;-)
Cuz we won the war!
@@frick566 - Believe me.. the rest of us stopped giving a damn about that, a long time ago.. ;-) The US needs to get with the times..
@@Garryck-1 If I was a professional army and got my ass whipped by a bunch of farmers I'd try to forget about it too...
@@frick566 - Most nations don't feel the need to keep harping on about victories from over 200 years ago... too much like over-compensating for an inferiority complex, know what I mean? ;-)
@@Garryck-1 Yet you keep harping on about metrics even though we've gotten along with our imperials just fine on lots of things. Shame the rest of you can't be as graceful as Troy was about it. He even made me remember when we left a set of wrenches up there on the moon, we didn't find any metric ones lying around.
Enjoyed Your Teaching troubleshooting and replacing seals in the reassembly. Changing tack behind you is a Clock and Barometer. Is the clock an 8 day clock?
How does it compare in terms of economy to a higher volume unit like 50 to 100 litres ? energy use per litre and maintenance costs
Have you given thought to insulation as you head further south?
Ya even!
👍👍🙋🙋
Have you had to do any work on the motor/ gear box? We bought a used unit and unfortunately we're getting sparks when we connect it to power. Motor won't run.
Perhaps the Brushes are worn/ damaged.
I also recommend this book:
www.booktopia.com.au/boatowners-mechanical-and-electrical-manual-nigel-calder/book/9780071790338.html
@@FreeRangeLiving I have that book. Is there a specific part that you're thinking of? I looked at the electric motor part today, but I am struggling to access the parts in this unit. Have you gotten into that much?
I haven't had to pull apart the motor on those. The book details testing electric motors though. Perhaps the armature suffered corrosion.
Can you do more real close ups, like at 14:02 of Sunday black stuff inside water maker. 4 seconds of video is better than half a minute of talking. And at 11:50 please close up of a page of exploded diagram and that it gives part numbers & names. (I know, but lots novice viewers don't)
You forgot to show the part where water blows all over hell?lol.
when you pay $3000 plus for a product , technical drawings count for good Intellectual property.
Not sure I would buy this device, for less money I can put a a water compressor and of the shelves larger membranes together and deliver a substantial improvement in production. Money saved can be then invested in my electric system obviously necessary to provide the required massive power increase.
homer simpson mmmmm beer maker
Glasses make you look more intelligent and possibly sexier
Haha, so did that last haircut and shave!
Ha Ha
Do you dye your beard?
You really shouldn't call it imperial measurement if it comes from the US, we kicked out the imperialists out a long time ago infract we celebrate it every year :-) p.s. We should have bent the whole world to US way of measurement. ;-)
Just because it's still used in the US, doesn't make it 'not Imperial'. The Imperials invented the measurement, not the Americans, so they get to name it. ;-)