Justice may have been served, but Karen refuses to talk about what happened. Given Santina's extensive injuries, what do you think happened? Would you have done what Michael did when he saw Karen out in public? Hug your loved ones tight. Be safe this week. 💙Drewby + Yergy Discord: discord.gg/kCCzjZM
Michael had his daughter out at a party all night and decided to walk/carry her home WHILE INTOXICATED then fight infront of her & ultimately decided to leave her with his INTOXICATED partner so IMO no matter how upset he is he should have REMORSE HIS DECISIONS & NEGLECT set the path that kept his daughter in danger and ended in her death,..he will have to live with that which is a cruel punishment,..KAREN should be put in population she SHOULD NOT be protected from other inmates
Long time viewer here, something is sus as hell. Karen didn't do it or was psychotic. The neighbors and friends are weird. The father was irresponsible af.
Karen is a horrible human being. I don’t care how drunk or how angry, you NEVER attack a child. What a coward! Thank you both for giving voices to these precious angels 👼. You two are amazing and your work is inspiring and important. Much love and respect to you both.❤
I don’t know why I torture myself with these stories. They always leave me feeling devastated and empty. These poor children. No child deserves this kind of treatment. I often find myself imagining being the age of the child in each story. Imagining how I would have felt when I was their age if those things happened to me. I suffered my own trauma as a very young kid. Imagining how scared, confused, alone, hurt, etc makes my heart ache for these kids and all the kids who deal with this but aren’t heard from r about
A parent thinking about what her child was thinking or saying or screaming as a monster is brutally beating that parent's child to death, has to be absolute torture. I often hear parents who have lost children to murder feel guilty for not being there; that they wonder if their child was screaming out for them in hopes of being saved from the evil that is taking their life. Just the thought of parents thinking that is beyond devastating and heartbreaking.
I think that often, I'm just going to add , same as if a child were S A before passing away.... I would never be able to get that out of my mind if it was my kid
I just had my daughter and my hormones are still fragile and this just broke my entire soul. I can’t even watch through the rest of this now because it’s killing me 😢
It breaks my heart when I think about what a child must have been thinking & feeling (when being abused, neglected, raped, tortured, murdered) I can't even imagine how the parent or family members feel. 😢💔
Leticia stauk is in prison doing that to this day. I follow every so often to hear her "private" phone calls and letters leaked to the public where I can hear about her "suffering". Leticia murdered her stepson gannon.
I know what you mean! Unfortunately, thats very common here! They do absolutely grotesque things to the innocent and most vilulnerable, and the second they are even so much as yelled at, they want to start llaying the victim!
She was just mad that she couldn’t use one of the doorways saying that’s how someone else came and killed the baby. I’m sure that was probably her plan
Im so confused as to how social workers removed this baby from her mother if they thought she was at risk...yet the other children were left in her care. That makes no sense. Clearly something went horribly wrong 😢
As grandmother in kinship custody, it's not as easy as pulling a child out. It takes evidence and willingness of the victim to speak. Children are easy to condition into silence being loyal to their abusers.
@All5AJz my point remains the same. They removed one child because she sustained a fracture. If they removed that child because they suspected the fracture was caused by abuse then they would/should have removed all the children. Even if one child is abused in a home they won't leave other children in the home. Only exception may be if they older children were over a certain age but they were all minors. It makes no sense.
You are putting too much trust in social workers and their terrible decisions. They do more harm than good in all situations I've ever known about, country wide.
There was girl Tanya who babysat my daughter for over a year. Baby to just over a yr old. She was great with my daughter & my daughter was always happy around her. She babysat other kids as well, no complaints. She was good with kids. Years later she had her own baby. She shook and threw her baby down the stairs. Her baby did not survive It was a sad shock and I felt it to my core.
@@Bmcdulin I had post partum psychosis after I had my daughter..even in the fog of my delusions and hallucinations and night terrors, I STILL KNEW RIGHT FROM WRONG. I knew that harming my baby was wrong and I protected her. It did not occur to me to hurt her! There's NO EXCUSE FOR HURTING BABIES!
@@carriefawcett9990 I had the same experience with postpartum issues. Never occurred to me to hurt my child. Respectfully, however it is unfair to place our experiences as a guide to what can and can’t happen. Just because we knew right from wrong doesn’t mean some moms don’t have that line blurred or erased completely. Our experiences are not the full spectrum of human experience.
Very fortunate for you. Psychosis is unfortunately exactly that: psychotic delusions that can unfortunately end very poorly. There's a case of a woman ripping her baby open bc she thought there was a key inside her that would let her get her "real" baby. I'm glad things worked out safely for your child.
The dad is just as guilty. He dumped his kid so he could go look for another drunk adult?? Take care of your own kids! Don’t take a baby when you intend on getting drunk because that is never safe for baby! He should be charged with neglect. She said don’t leave her and he just walked away.
@@johnottway8074he was too busy being an asshole, to his ex, getting drunk, preening his ego (likely, feeling like hot shit because he had a new woman) and being a bigot, to be a father
There's no way all those injuries are 'Accidents', Karen Harrington fully deserves to spend the rest of her life in prison, hopefully never to see the light of day again. RIP Santina, justice has been served.🙁🙏
sadly even when things clearly aren’t accidental, they can’t be charged or blamed fully since the person being prosecuted won’t say anything and there are no witnesses. since she was the only one who could’ve been in the house and was coherent it clearly was murder.
I am a single mother of a 5 year old and a newborn. I will not have a man around my children until they are out of high school. Your children are your number one priority NOT dating.
I’m pretty sure that the case was opened exclusively on Santina , meaning that child services likely didn’t have any say in the care of the other children. I would assume that it was a decision between parents, meaning cps (or it’s Irish equivalent rather) likely had nothing to do with it.
A drunken dad wandering the streets with a little baby! Violent row with a woman, leaves a little baby with a said woman. Great parenting. He is just as guilty. Neglect.
Totally agree. He dumped his baby on her without consent & went running off after his cousin. Not excusing abuse but I agree, he was a terrible parent.
Better to leave a toddler alone and go off like the McCanns did more or less fifteen years ago?? This father left his daughter with a trusted member of his community, as explained in the video, someone who had looked after many children and had never had a bad word spoken against her. She is the one who murdered this innocent little girl anything else is superfluous
There is no ending to Madeleine McCann's story nor thousands of others that disappeared like her......how does it compare to Santina being beaten to death?
You don't let your new boyfriend or girlfriend watch your child /children . It seems it never turns out well for the child/ children. So sad for this child.
Never, never leave your baby or child alone with a boyfriend or girlfriend ! Why do these people do this and then find their child dead? I will never understand why !!!!
No one has my baby. My eldest is allowed with a selective amount but she can speak. My boy can't. I've also told her she can tell me anything. I was abused. I kept it a secret. She's having a better life
What a beautiful child. She could have grown up to do so many things. Don't be so quick to trust a new boyfriend or girlfriend with your children. New flames come and go - but if you have children, you have all the love you need.
@@Lizzy14510 you can't force people who aren't happy together be together it's just gonna make the childs home life a lot worse what's the point of having both parents in your life who aren't happy?
You know, I was over at my mom’s house on Sunday. I accidentally almost scratched my niece with my thumb, and I felt awful. She didn’t even cry or have a mark. How anyone can be ok doing this to children is beyond me! These precious babies don’t deserve this. The mom also didn’t deserve to have her baby ripped away from her like that.
Totally agree! I remember the first time I accidentally clipped my daughter when trying to cut her tiny newborn nails, I was traumatized. I can not wrap my head around people who prey on our most vulnerable. Absolute monsters.
One time I was playing ball with my niece and the ball bounced and hit her in the face resulting in a bloody nose and tears 😢 it was on her birthday, I felt so bad, I also witnessed her falling down the stairs and wasn't able to catch her, I felt bad both times, and the guilt seemed even more because it wasn't my child
@@colleenf114I read that the best thing for babies’ nails is to bite them yourself. I know it sounds weird, but there is no chance of cutting their precious skin with the nail clippers!😊
@colleenf114 Same! The little cry when it happens is heartbreaking and its such a tiny cut but so much blood 😢 How can anyone actually punch or hurt their child with such anger 😢
Imagine being ten years old and carefully looking over the broken corpse that was once your precious baby sister and being the one to notice how her teeth were knocked in.
i cant imagine what that poor kid thought once he saw that it was evident that his sister didnt just get into a fatal accident, someone did that to her
I strongly believe she should never have been allowed to be around her child or any child for that matter while she was out on bail I mean after all she was out on bail for murdering a child
I’m so tired of hearing babies being murder!! I’ll never understand how anyone could do such a horrible thing. Santina may you Rest in Eternal Peace 🕊️ 👼🏻 😢❤🩷🙏🏻
Everyone is talking about how much they trusted Karen, and that terrifies me. Because if she was actually trustworthy (which I doubt), it means that anyone we put our trust in, to care for our children, no matter how reputable, can snap at any time and hurt our little treasures. And if she was never trustworthy to begin with? It means all those parents missed or ignored the red flags, and that there's probably numerous other children hurt by her that we just don't know about yet.
She was trustworthy with kids she wanted. HER kids? HER friends kids? Kids in HER family? The kids HER boyfriend brought with him? They were safe because she WANTED to be around those kids. This kid that was left in her care when she didn't want her and was drunk? She's dead. Karen is a selfish woman who violently lived up to the meme.
That's always a possibility. Trust people, but never assume they're incapable of acts like this. Pay attention, listen, and search for signs of abuse. You might see something that was otherwise hidden.
Here is a wake up call,,,, no one really wants to babysit or be a step parent to someone elses child,,, Stay married and watch your own kids,, when they go to school then get a job , etc,,,,, these stories are too many,,,, i dont let anyone even watch my dogs,, Im old now my kid is grown, grands too
The father is just as guilty for dragging his daughter around town in the middle of the night and leaving her with someone who was angry with him. He was more interested in his cousin than his baby.
Beautiful Angel Santina with her red hair & blue eyes, a very rare combination indeed, [my granddaughter has red hair & blue eyes]. R.I.P Santina ~ You maybe gone, But you will always be missed & loved ~
I have been watching you guys for about a year now. I want to thank you for the way you deliver your documentaries. You show much respect for the victims and it shows how much you care. Thanks again.
yeah but tou can't just kick it your neighbour's door. That'll get you hauled off just as fast. If you really want to help, you'll need to use your brain
Michael is just as guilty!! His actions were completely negligent and utterly, shamefully irresponsible that whole evening. Drinking, intoxicated, lugging around a baby and then trying to pawn said baby off on partner…?? That is not a parent who puts his child first. Disgraceful.
He's not *just as guilty* while I agree that he fucked up and was extremely irresponsible there was absolutely no reason for him to think his daughter would die or be in danger in general, in the few hours he was gone to look for his cousin. He definetly fucked up but not nearly enough to say he had a hand in his daughter's death.
@@noircat5absolutely. He messed up. SHE was a monster. But if he knew this woman long enough it wouldn’t be surprising that he might think his baby would be safe with her. It wasn’t like he was leaving her with the baby for the whole night so he can have free time, He was looking for his cousin and planned to come back, which he did… And while I definitely think it’s not cool to drink when ur taking care of kids, there are a decent amount of bars in certain countries that do allow you to take your kids in as long as ur taking care of them, it’s something relatively normal in those cultures.. She is a whole other story, there is literally no excuse for what she did. She tortured that baby girl. She is a monster.
I have a 3 year old daughter and when I see cases like this and I always think the hardest thing isn’t that they’re gone, it’d be imagining what they may have been feeling. Knowing that they were probably asking for mommy and I couldn’t be there to help them. I had to stop watching your videos for a while.. I just can’t take it anymore
I remember living in an apartment and there was a young girl under me and her boyfriend stayed there. He didn't work or nothing, she did everything. One night I heard him beating the crap outta her. She needed help so I called for help. I had been there before and nobody ever came to help me. I couldn't live with myself if he really hurt her. So I get angry when I hear these people talk about they heard this and kids being abused and they have so much to say when the child is murdered. You should keep that to yourself because you should be ashamed of yourself if you hear children being tortured and beat and you did nothing 😢😮
The neighbour did call. Also, kids are difficult, because they scream a lot. They scream like they're being murdered if they get a red cup instead of a pink one. If you hear a kid screaming, it's likely that it's just a kid being a kid. Sometimes it's hard to know for sure. That's why if you hear something, just say something. A decent parent can easily explain the screaming to first responders.
Thank you both for what you do! I can't imagine how difficult it must be to look into so many of these poor children's deaths, but it is necessary too. ❤
Everyone says they can't understand why this happened because Karen was so good with kids. But the thing is... those other kids were kids she WANTED to be around. Kids from HER friends and HER family and the two that were with her boyfriend when SHE came into his life? They were all safe. But this baby she didn't want to watch? She's dead. She's a selfish woman. While i understand being upset a kid was basically dumped on you and she was drunk, that's no excuse to harm the child. She should have called someone for help or to vent. The moment she turned her anger on the innocent little girl was the moment she became a monster. Karen has, unfortunately, lived up to the meme in the most horrifically violent way.
Ego brought that man and woman, together- appearances were probably, important to them both. Neither wanted to admit that they were two large pieces, of shit that could not be responsible, for that child because they were too self preoccupied. Neither, exhibited highly empathetic traits and those people are dangerous, to the helpless most, of all. The extremely young, old, ill, weak or disabled are subject to the traits these people, never work on.
Are you effing kidding me? There's no living up or down to a f****** meme. Karen is a name that took about a week to become a word that reflects more poorly on the person using it than the person that's being used against. She's simply a horrible woman who happens to be named Karen. Stop the misogyny. Do better.
Oh my God! This is the worst case of child abuse I have ever heard. You guys do such a great job on these stories, thank you for all you do! This story here is devastating, heartbreaking. Rest in peace little angel
I love the way you cover each case. Your respect and empathy for every victim is amazing. Thank you for keeping going, you both are wonderful and so easy to listen too. Xx
I can’t express how much we appreciate how delicately you give these babies a voice that they don’t have anymore. It’s insane but there is never going to be a time where you don’t have a story to tell. Even if all abuse stopped there still wouldn’t be enough days to tell all of the stories that have happened up until then. But hopefully you guys doing what you’re doing can slow these stories down. If you see something, please say something. You guys definitely make that super clear as well. Thank you guys for what you do. We love you guys and never want you to stop doing this amazing work. ❤
Thank you guys for helping us to remember these tiny creatures, who barely had a chance at life. They deserve to be remembered, despite how painful it is for us who remember them, and how much it makes us cry. Their memories live on through us, and will do so forever. I don't know how you do what you do. Thank you.
Oh sweety 😢 we all have moments,but I never felt self hate,but I do have depression & worried about my disabled child. Stay positive we all have issues.
That’s a hard looking 38. How did she go from being so wonderful with children to murdering one !? Children and alcohol don’t mix. They shouldn’t have been lugging the child around like that. Her father should have stayed with his daughter
He should have stayed home and provided a warm comfortable home for his poor baby. Packing her around drunk and fighting at 3am! They are both irredeemable!
OMG I named my daughter Santita and when she got older she changed it to Santina. This is a beautiful little girl. How do you become jealous of your own baby ? I hope she never gets out.
Sadly, Santina wasn't her baby. Perhaps if she had been, she'd still be alive. There's a number of cases where people like this harmed someone else's baby in their care while treating their own children with love. I can only guess that it's because the see their own children as an extension of themselves, and other people's kids as an extension of their parents. My stepmother saw me as nothing more than an extension of my mother, who she hated more than anything, and she hurt me consistently while treating her own children, my half brothers, as royalty. It was as if she was two different people. As screwed up as it is, I am so incredibly grateful my brothers have known nothing but love. I'm glad they don't know what their mother is capable of. Although, I fear for any woman they might marry some day, and any children they might have. God help them.
I know what its like to crave a cigarette as im a smoker myself, but even i can't understand how an addiction can cause someone to kill anybody (adult or child) for not being able to have what they're craving for
Because it was a lie and deflection, from the truth she can't accept. I refused to leave my child alone, to walk a block for my cigarette addiction- I had bitterness and rage and postpartum anxiety/depression but those things were eclipsed, by love and compassion when it came, to my child. There's so many things you simply can't do when you have love and compassion
I remember being absolutely TERRIFIED when my daughter started school. We see so many horror stories of children being mistreated by "trusted" adults. I even homeschooled her for her kindergarten year because I was so scared. I've always reminded her that if she is mistreated by ANYONE that she tells me asap. She's 9 now, and LUCKILY, she has been well-treated by all the faculty and students at her school. But I still remind her. Just in case. I don't let anyone other than my immediate family babysit her. Still yet. My greatest fear is someone hurting my child.
I know what you're trying to say but they did die in vain Spreading awareness is important but the way you phrased this implies that the child's death was somehow a noble sacrifice to spread awareness of ???? What??? Of her murder? Of children's murders? Those could have had awareness spread without the death of an infant??
Her death was entirely in vain, entirely without any positive outcome And saying it wasn't in vain is something you'd say about a person who knowingly sacrifices their life to save someone else's, or save a group of children, etc Not a child tortured and murdered???
I watch/listen to your videos every time I go to work…I cannot believe the absolute scary people who live in this world. Being a mama of four kids myself, I could never imagine the evil-ness that goes into harming a child. Thank you to you both for the amount of information and work you put into every video, you both are amazing! RIP😢
My daughter used to fall down the stairs all the time at 2 and 3 years old!!! She would just run in socks or try to climb down the hand railing! We went to the ER so much for it the ER docs contacted her pediatrician to teach me how to check her to make sure she was ok so I didn't have to keep coming in when she was always fine . She never once got anything more than a bruise here or there! She would fall I would run and try and catch her, but I had two younger siblings that were usually in my arms! I would hold her and move all her limbs and check her for bruising over the next hour. She's 21 today and honestly just as clumsy. I don't understand these parents bringing in children for "falling down the stairs" and expecting everyone to believe them! Kids are very resilient, unless they are being abused!!!!!!!!!
I mean, we don't know what the staurs were made of, how she fell, or how steep the stairs were. I was 12 the first time I broke my leg, and I only missed one step on a concrete staircase. I have a friend who broke his femur at 7 because he fell off his razor scooter wrong. Someone else in the comments even mentioned that their baby had a brittle bone condition. To take a child from the parent without extensively making sure they were doing the right thing felt negligent on the child services' part, and a baby girl ended up dead because of it.
My son was jumping on the bed fell off and broke his arm he wasn't crying so we just ate dinner afterwards his arm was 3x it's normal size then we went to the ER
I caught my 2 year old my the neck of the shirt the other day. He was standing at the top of the stairs and turned to look up at me but stepped back at the same time. My hand shot out to grab whatever I could and thankfully he was fine. 3 kids in 10 years and we've only had 1 in the hospital and that was for a pulled elbow after fighting with her older brother. We were worried before we went in but apparently it's a common injury in kids when they have siblings of different ages. They told us they usually suspect things when kids have bruises in places that aren't typical of falls. Bruises on upper arms in small children are not typical of falls. Small bruises on legs and knees are normal but large bruises on thighs can also be suspicious.
I jumped off a chair (a chair!!! Like a foot off the ground!) and broke my leg when I was around 8. My mom didn't even take me to the doctor until the next day because it was frankly unbelievable, but sometimes you just land wrong, or you have a disorder that causes weak bones that hasn't been diagnosed yet. I also got a concussion when I was around 5 months old because I was running through the house and tripped and hit my head on a table. The doctors didn't believe my mom until she put me down to show that, yes, I could in fact walk at 5 months old. Every person's body is different, your experiences aren't universal, etc etc.
My husband and I are getting our room emptied to be able to paint and put new flooring down. Our water main busted and flooded the front of the first floor. Our room, the hall going the garage, and garage got flooded too. It was a mess. Had to do new sheetrock too on the lower half of the walls too. 🙄
@@tootsie3612oh wow that sucks!! Hope you guys are able to get through it quickly but at least you'll have a nice fresh area to look at afterwards lol
@tootsie3612 no fun, our water heater burst in our garage last year and we were pakingbto move over half our stuff got ruined thank goodness for insurance (although we didnt have big enough coverage to cover it all it was better than nothing) good luck thats a alot of work. We down sized and moves into a 5th wheel and will start travling next year.
This was so disturbing. I just don't understand why he left her. How can anyone be this evil! Dear little Santina , such a beautiful baby. R.I.P. dance with the angels 😇 The evil that occurred that night is unimaginable. They will be held accountable.
Other people trusted her with their children. Maybe they should talk to THOSE children (if they were old enough to remember) and find out what she might have done to THEM. Remember -Myra Hindley (look her up if you don't recognize the name) was the neighborhood babysitter, too.
You only gotta tell me ONE TIME that you don’t wanna watch my child! My mom barely ever wanted to watch my kid/s because well…..her mom never watched us for her barely ever. Once she said no, that was it. There was no leaving my kid with her or forcing my child upon someone who doesn’t want to watch them. Not that my mom would ever have hurt my kids, it’s just simple common sense. I don’t have to be told twice! That’s how you end up with this crap. That father has a part in why his child got hurt.
How many more precious babies are going to lose their lives to these horrific people, I am afraid I have lost my faith in humanity. RIP all the wonderful children who have lost their precious lives to these monsters ❤🙏
I remember when I broke my daughter’s femur bone, doing physio.. I didn’t even think twice about taking her to the hospital as she wasn’t verbal but I knew she was in pain.. I just thought if I get questioned I’ll take it, as long as she’s comfortable. School broke her knee the year later 😢 then turned out she had brittle bones and even just hoisting could break something I remember this case, I do not believe for 1 minute Karen didn’t show any signs of aggression before, it’s very rare ppl just flip like this. Sadly Santina paid the price. 😢 The pain she must of gone threw that night. She’s not remorseful about her actions, she’s not said what happened 😠 Yes I’d of done the same then coming face 2 face with this monster! How anyone can take there temper out on anyone like this never mind a small toddler, she tortured her! Social services couldn’t of been that worried about Bridget letting her keep all her other children..the family was failed like many before and after them 😢 RIP and fly high baby! ❤
My daughter has O.I type 3 it was only 5 types when my daughter was born in 2007 she was born with everything broken except her hands,feet and spine. So I know exactly what you're talking about. Osteogenesis Imperfecta also known as the brittle bone syndrome. I had a friend who daughter had rickets.
Having a child with brittle bones (& similar) would be so scary! And the kids that have to go through life with this condition 😢 Years ago, I heard about a child that was taken from their parents for abuse, they ended up in the system where a foster parent killed them. Then, it was discovered the child had brittle bones. I felt so awful for the parents. Lose your child when you know you didn't do anything to them & then for the child to lose their life where they placed them. Of course I felt awful for the child too.
I don’t know how you both can handle talking about these cases you cover without showing just how angry 😤 it makes you because hearing them makes my blood boil. I don’t know how a mother could ever get beyond the MURDER of their child. This is an absolutely horrible heartbreaking 💔 story. I don’t know how a human being can hurt a child, cause any pain to a child much less murder a child. It must take an evil person to hurt innocent little children! I’m sure there’s a special place in hell for this Karen! I have to applaud 👏 you both on covering these crimes and really have to limit these horrific cases because they make me so ANGRY 😡. I don’t know how the two of you make it possible to share these stories with us because it has to affect you probably more than your viewers. Thank you for your hard work and tears you’ve shed to continue to bring these stories to us. ❤
@@johnottway8074 you don’t think being out at 2-3am DRUNK with a toddler , pawning her off on someone who didn’t want her , screaming at said person and then leaving just to go off for 2-3 hours , doesn’t make him responsible for what happened also? If not for him baby girl wouldn’t have been in the care of that deranged hyena 🤷🏽♀️.
@@STAYATINYARMYSINright and leaving her with a complete stranger like a babysitter would be any safer then someone you love that your just having a rlly bad argument with (which happens a ton in relationships depending on the level of argument)? There have been many babysitter murders as well. And he only left her with her to look for someone and he planned to come right back, which he obviously did. Yes he should have probably just stayed there and not look for his cousin, but he was drunk, which is the most irresponsible thing he did and probably is what led to his poor decisions. They could have gotten even closer if that night didn’t happen and gotten married, and she could have still had a horrific outburst like that when he was not around just in the future. He made poor decisions. But she was an absolute monster that he thought he loved.
@@STAYATINYARMYSINlike to put all the blame on him is completely ridiculous. He didn’t leave her with a complete stranger. He left her with his loved one who already had experience with taking care of kids. That woman had the choice to kill that baby. She is the reason the little girl is gone.
I learned the hard way that you can never fully trust anyone!! My own mother watched my kids one day while my husband and i went to the doctor. My son has severe autism. He had a meltdown while we were gone and she ended up throwing stuff back st him, then held him down and twisted his arm behind his back. Almost broke it!! I found out because my daughter told me. 🤬
@@jxn1056 Wow! Have you ever confronted your mother about it? Instead of admitting that she's not up to the task(psychologically, and it's not her fault) in order to avoid being (wrongfully) labeled as a cold, uncaring grandma - paradoxically, she ended up behaving as a bad, physically abusive grandma which is many times worse!
I know I’m a lot of cases police drop the ball, but as someone who lived in Ireland for half a year, the guarda were always so kind. Of course every agency has their issues, but truly it’s nice every once in a while to see a force do their job nicely. Rest easy Santina, sending her family all the love in the world.
Wow, what a horrible woman! That sweet, lovely, innocent blessing of a baby girl should never have had to endure what happened to her. Last week I broke a lower vertebrae. Before my injury I would listen to your videos while working every morning, not watching the horrible injuries that these monsters do to the children. This is the very first time, after 3 plus years of finding your channel, where I watched it through. Thank you for all you do. I can't imagine the scenarios that you both have to view in order to create this content. Thank you! You both ( kitties included) are Angels 😇 Take care
❤MM. Thank you for what you do. I'm sending my love, positive thoughts, and good mental health because I know how much these affect you guys. Cuddle the kitties. Sending my love. Thank you for never ignoring the forgotten ones, and giving them the voice they didn't have.❤
Poor little Santina, God knows what that woman did to her, hope she was given life and never gets out of prison. I can imagine doing what her father did, in public or wherever. After seeing your child like that, then having to bury her, I think most people may react like that.
Maybe I saw an old community tab post but I thought there wasn't a video coming out this week...? maybe I read it wrong. who knows. Lol. But I'm just happy there's a video out. thank you for the upload! always appreciate it! you guys rock!!!💛
Video was moved to today and Thursday at 2PM EST because of Labor Day in America. Also it's a decent excuse to post pictures of the kitties. Thanks for being here early!!
I absolutely love your style and execution of these true crime tales. You respectfully honor the victims and their families, and I can feel your anger and incredulous outrage when talking about the perpetrators in these stories...ty both for a job well done! I subscribed ❤
This happened in the city where I'm from, what happened to poor Santina broke our city, I see her mother, grandmother and siblings around and I'm heartbroken for them., I also see her father don't know what way to feel about him, r.i.p. beautiful baby Santina 💜
This case breaks my heart. I am so disturbed by how many babies and tound children are murdered by friends or love interests in this timenin history. I pray for this family to heal from this horrific crime.
Justice may have been served, but Karen refuses to talk about what happened. Given Santina's extensive injuries, what do you think happened? Would you have done what Michael did when he saw Karen out in public?
Hug your loved ones tight. Be safe this week.
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I don't know which of you is who cause I'm new to the channel. But..please... I must know what the rest of the shirt says and looks like???
❤ Wow so horrible for this family. God bless you both. Thank you Always Donna Barnes ❤❤❤❤❤
Michael had his daughter out at a party all night and decided to walk/carry her home WHILE INTOXICATED then fight infront of her & ultimately decided to leave her with his INTOXICATED partner so IMO no matter how upset he is he should have REMORSE HIS DECISIONS & NEGLECT set the path that kept his daughter in danger and ended in her death,..he will have to live with that which is a cruel punishment,..KAREN should be put in population she SHOULD NOT be protected from other inmates
Long time viewer here, something is sus as hell. Karen didn't do it or was psychotic. The neighbors and friends are weird. The father was irresponsible af.
Maybe Karen was blackout drunk and truly doesn’t remember.
Karen is a horrible human being. I don’t care how drunk or how angry, you NEVER attack a child. What a coward! Thank you both for giving voices to these precious angels 👼. You two are amazing and your work is inspiring and important. Much love and respect to you both.❤
She isn't human imho
I grew up with this dynamic. I had decent parents, but when they were binging, it was safer to crawl out a window and hide in the woods.
You sure she's human that POS 😡
@nancyadams9228 i use to hide in cuboards under bathroom sink so i wouldnt get hurt
@@nancyadams9228damn. They don't sound decent at all to be honest!
I don’t know why I torture myself with these stories. They always leave me feeling devastated and empty. These poor children. No child deserves this kind of treatment. I often find myself imagining being the age of the child in each story. Imagining how I would have felt when I was their age if those things happened to me. I suffered my own trauma as a very young kid. Imagining how scared, confused, alone, hurt, etc makes my heart ache for these kids and all the kids who deal with this but aren’t heard from r about
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Me too but I get reminded not to trust anyone and don’t put myself in dangerous situations where my son can end up without me and in wrong hands
I do the same thing, then I have to pray🙏🏾🙏🏾
Me too ❤
learn that this planet is already hell
You handle every case with empathy and understanding. Two of the best true crimers on RUclips right here!
This! So true ❤
Agreed!
That’s why I love them
I agree. Love them for this
Agree. They give voices to all the victims
A parent thinking about what her child was thinking or saying or screaming as a monster is brutally beating that parent's child to death, has to be absolute torture. I often hear parents who have lost children to murder feel guilty for not being there; that they wonder if their child was screaming out for them in hopes of being saved from the evil that is taking their life. Just the thought of parents thinking that is beyond devastating and heartbreaking.
I think that often, I'm just going to add , same as if a child were S A before passing away.... I would never be able to get that out of my mind if it was my kid
I just had my daughter and my hormones are still fragile and this just broke my entire soul. I can’t even watch through the rest of this now because it’s killing me 😢
@@rileymilan you'll be fine.
This is the part that disturbs me the most. It plays on repeat in your mind. I don’t know how parents go on after something like this.
It breaks my heart when I think about what a child must have been thinking & feeling (when being abused, neglected, raped, tortured, murdered) I can't even imagine how the parent or family members feel. 😢💔
Imagine the absolute audacity of a child killer to say her “right” were violated. 🙄
Leticia stauk is in prison doing that to this day.
I follow every so often to hear her "private" phone calls and letters leaked to the public where I can hear about her "suffering".
Leticia murdered her stepson gannon.
I know what you mean! Unfortunately, thats very common here! They do absolutely grotesque things to the innocent and most vilulnerable, and the second they are even so much as yelled at, they want to start llaying the victim!
She was just mad that she couldn’t use one of the doorways saying that’s how someone else came and killed the baby. I’m sure that was probably her plan
@@alekaphoenix9771 that part
You should want law enforcement to do everything in their power to not violate rights or laws so a serious case doesn't get thrown out
Im so confused as to how social workers removed this baby from her mother if they thought she was at risk...yet the other children were left in her care. That makes no sense. Clearly something went horribly wrong 😢
As grandmother in kinship custody, it's not as easy as pulling a child out.
It takes evidence and willingness of the victim to speak.
Children are easy to condition into silence being loyal to their abusers.
@All5AJz my point remains the same. They removed one child because she sustained a fracture. If they removed that child because they suspected the fracture was caused by abuse then they would/should have removed all the children. Even if one child is abused in a home they won't leave other children in the home. Only exception may be if they older children were over a certain age but they were all minors. It makes no sense.
Probably social services did not know she moved her sons in after
I said the same thing
You are putting too much trust in social workers and their terrible decisions. They do more harm than good in all situations I've ever known about, country wide.
There was girl Tanya who babysat my daughter for over a year. Baby to just over a yr old. She was great with my daughter & my daughter was always happy around her. She babysat other kids as well, no complaints.
She was good with kids.
Years later she had her own baby.
She shook and threw her baby down the stairs. Her baby did not survive
It was a sad shock and I felt it to my core.
Did she have psychosis after having it?
@@Bmcdulin I had post partum psychosis after I had my daughter..even in the fog of my delusions and hallucinations and night terrors, I STILL KNEW RIGHT FROM WRONG. I knew that harming my baby was wrong and I protected her. It did not occur to me to hurt her! There's NO EXCUSE FOR HURTING BABIES!
@@carriefawcett9990 I had the same experience with postpartum issues. Never occurred to me to hurt my child. Respectfully, however it is unfair to place our experiences as a guide to what can and can’t happen. Just because we knew right from wrong doesn’t mean some moms don’t have that line blurred or erased completely. Our experiences are not the full spectrum of human experience.
Very fortunate for you. Psychosis is unfortunately exactly that: psychotic delusions that can unfortunately end very poorly. There's a case of a woman ripping her baby open bc she thought there was a key inside her that would let her get her "real" baby. I'm glad things worked out safely for your child.
OMG 😵💫😬
You don’t have to tell me twice, that you don’t want to watch my baby.
Right? This father was extremely irresponsible, dragging her around at 3am, and then forcing her onto an angry person and didn't even look back.
The dad is just as guilty. He dumped his kid so he could go look for another drunk adult?? Take care of your own kids! Don’t take a baby when you intend on getting drunk because that is never safe for baby! He should be charged with neglect. She said don’t leave her and he just walked away.
GIRL YES
@@johnottway8074they didn't say that they were the same. They said one leads to another.
@@johnottway8074he was too busy being an asshole, to his ex, getting drunk, preening his ego (likely, feeling like hot shit because he had a new woman) and being a bigot, to be a father
There's no way all those injuries are 'Accidents',
Karen Harrington fully deserves to spend the rest
of her life in prison, hopefully
never to see the light of day again. RIP Santina, justice has
been served.🙁🙏
sadly even when things clearly aren’t accidental, they can’t be charged or blamed fully since the person being prosecuted won’t say anything and there are no witnesses. since she was the only one who could’ve been in the house and was coherent it clearly was murder.
Death Penalty
Karen was pregnant. Who has the baby boy? Is the guy the father?
High five emoji 😂
Woodchipper go BRRRR
I am a single mother of a 5 year old and a newborn. I will not have a man around my children until they are out of high school. Your children are your number one priority NOT dating.
Totally agree. Unless a true perfect man comes along, maybe.
If they both have the same dad and y'all just broke up or something I'll believe you... But 5 and newborn? Have you already had diff guys around..?..
My son 15 and I left his dad when he was 1 1/2 my son has seen me with 1 man
@@CMIYC_MN........... wow, are you challenging this lady. She states in her comment, that she will not have a man “ around” her child/children.
Age 5 and a newborn? A single mother?
What is the point of taking one child from their mother, then turn around and give 4 kids to her? That makes no sense. Unless I heard it incorrectly.
Right... that part didnt make sense
Seems like she was a good mom tho...
I’m pretty sure that the case was opened exclusively on Santina , meaning that child services likely didn’t have any say in the care of the other children. I would assume that it was a decision between parents, meaning cps (or it’s Irish equivalent rather) likely had nothing to do with it.
I thought exactly the same thing.
@@unapologeticallyauthentic we have no idea
A drunken dad wandering the streets with a little baby! Violent row with a woman, leaves a little baby with a said woman. Great parenting. He is just as guilty. Neglect.
Totally agree. He dumped his baby on her without consent & went running off after his cousin. Not excusing abuse but I agree, he was a terrible parent.
Agree totally,hes a pos.The child was neglected by everyone.
She was a monster
Better to leave a toddler alone and go off like the McCanns did more or less fifteen years ago?? This father left his daughter with a trusted member of his community, as explained in the video, someone who had looked after many children and had never had a bad word spoken against her. She is the one who murdered this innocent little girl anything else is superfluous
There is no ending to Madeleine McCann's story nor thousands of others that disappeared like her......how does it compare to Santina being beaten to death?
You don't let your new boyfriend or girlfriend watch your child /children . It seems it never turns out well for the child/ children. So sad for this child.
Never, never leave your baby or child alone with a boyfriend or girlfriend ! Why do these people do this and then find their child dead? I will never understand why !!!!
No one has my baby. My eldest is allowed with a selective amount but she can speak. My boy can't. I've also told her she can tell me anything. I was abused. I kept it a secret. She's having a better life
What a beautiful child. She could have grown up to do so many things.
Don't be so quick to trust a new boyfriend or girlfriend with your children. New flames come and go - but if you have children, you have all the love you need.
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i agree. however, if more parents would just put in the hard work of staying together....
@@Lizzy14510 you can't force people who aren't happy together be together it's just gonna make the childs home life a lot worse what's the point of having both parents in your life who aren't happy?
Shoulda told that to my mom lmao
word up
I can't imagine all the pain and suffering this little angel endured. 😢
The neighbours should have immediately called the police when they heard her freaking out!!!!
they did tho? the police came and left thinking it was over once the apartment was quiet
You know, I was over at my mom’s house on Sunday. I accidentally almost scratched my niece with my thumb, and I felt awful. She didn’t even cry or have a mark. How anyone can be ok doing this to children is beyond me! These precious babies don’t deserve this. The mom also didn’t deserve to have her baby ripped away from her like that.
Totally agree! I remember the first time I accidentally clipped my daughter when trying to cut her tiny newborn nails, I was traumatized. I can not wrap my head around people who prey on our most vulnerable. Absolute monsters.
One time I was playing ball with my niece and the ball bounced and hit her in the face resulting in a bloody nose and tears 😢 it was on her birthday, I felt so bad, I also witnessed her falling down the stairs and wasn't able to catch her, I felt bad both times, and the guilt seemed even more because it wasn't my child
@@colleenf114I read that the best thing for babies’ nails is to bite them yourself. I know it sounds weird, but there is no chance of cutting their precious skin with the nail clippers!😊
@colleenf114 Same! The little cry when it happens is heartbreaking and its such a tiny cut but so much blood 😢 How can anyone actually punch or hurt their child with such anger 😢
@@downhomesunsetyou can buy little baby nail buffers to just file them down without hurting them.. biting their nails sounds awful 🤦♀️
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 she was just a baby . Just 2 yrs old . This broke my heart . Rest easy sweet baby.
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Imagine being ten years old and carefully looking over the broken corpse that was once your precious baby sister and being the one to notice how her teeth were knocked in.
i cant imagine what that poor kid thought once he saw that it was evident that his sister didnt just get into a fatal accident, someone did that to her
It’s disgusting that this monster was allowed out on bail all this time with her baby when she was charged with killing another baby
Did they mention where her baby was? I may have missed it but if it was the same father as Santina I would think he has him??
@@bobbietower7185 no, I was also wondering what happened to the baby boy and if Michael was the father of both .
I strongly believe she should never have been allowed to be around her child or any child for that matter while she was out on bail I mean after all she was out on bail for murdering a child
@@TheAngelsMommiep
Should have been no bail
I’m so tired of hearing babies being murder!! I’ll never understand how anyone could do such a horrible thing. Santina may you Rest in Eternal Peace 🕊️ 👼🏻 😢❤🩷🙏🏻
Me too Brenda. 😢
Everyone is talking about how much they trusted Karen, and that terrifies me. Because if she was actually trustworthy (which I doubt), it means that anyone we put our trust in, to care for our children, no matter how reputable, can snap at any time and hurt our little treasures. And if she was never trustworthy to begin with? It means all those parents missed or ignored the red flags, and that there's probably numerous other children hurt by her that we just don't know about yet.
She was trustworthy with kids she wanted. HER kids? HER friends kids? Kids in HER family? The kids HER boyfriend brought with him? They were safe because she WANTED to be around those kids. This kid that was left in her care when she didn't want her and was drunk? She's dead. Karen is a selfish woman who violently lived up to the meme.
I was thinking the same thing
That's always a possibility. Trust people, but never assume they're incapable of acts like this.
Pay attention, listen, and search for signs of abuse. You might see something that was otherwise hidden.
Here is a wake up call,,,, no one really wants to babysit or be a step parent to someone elses child,,, Stay married and watch your own kids,, when they go to school then get a job , etc,,,,, these stories are too many,,,, i dont let anyone even watch my dogs,, Im old now my kid is grown, grands too
Right I agree. She was probably harming children all along and the parents didn't know
JESUS!! THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST ABUSE CASES I'VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME!!! MAY THIS PERFECT LITTLE ANGLE RIP AND GET FAMILY HEAL OF HEART BREAK!!😢❤
The father is just as guilty for dragging his daughter around town in the middle of the night and leaving her with someone who was angry with him. He was more interested in his cousin than his baby.
I agree
Agree. So many are outraged at Karen, however, I find him equally culpable. He’s a terrible father!
Agreed
He's a creep !!
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i think the same she should be with her grandma its really disapointing and heartbreaking
Beautiful Angel Santina with her red hair & blue eyes, a very rare combination indeed, [my granddaughter has red hair & blue eyes].
R.I.P Santina ~ You maybe gone, But you will always be missed & loved ~
My daughter has red hair and blue eyes. To think that someone would do something so horrific to a innocent soul. That poor baby. 😢
My son has orange/red hair and sky blue eyes. This case is so sad.
@@Jenni-c2l He must be very handsome I'm sure
@@Snowtiger610 It's hard to comprehend right~~
@kimwalsh OMG yes!! I could never do anything like that to my daughter. She is my life!!
I have been watching you guys for about a year now.
I want to thank you for the way you deliver your documentaries.
You show much respect for the victims and it shows how much you care. Thanks again.
Bail??????? That’s a crime in itself against the court
The male next door who heard a child crying/screaming.FFS kick door in man?
He got the Guarda out to do it lawfully for him
@@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts after listening to the baby being murdered for 2 hours straight.
@@Because-rt8qsno kidding
yeah but tou can't just kick it your neighbour's door. That'll get you hauled off just as fast.
If you really want to help, you'll need to use your brain
You waited till things quieted down.... shame on you
Michael is just as guilty!! His actions were completely negligent and utterly, shamefully irresponsible that whole evening. Drinking, intoxicated, lugging around a baby and then trying to pawn said baby off on partner…?? That is not a parent who puts his child first. Disgraceful.
He's not *just as guilty* while I agree that he fucked up and was extremely irresponsible there was absolutely no reason for him to think his daughter would die or be in danger in general, in the few hours he was gone to look for his cousin. He definetly fucked up but not nearly enough to say he had a hand in his daughter's death.
@@noircat5 i agree.
@@noircat5absolutely. He messed up. SHE was a monster.
But if he knew this woman long enough it wouldn’t be surprising that he might think his baby would be safe with her. It wasn’t like he was leaving her with the baby for the whole night so he can have free time, He was looking for his cousin and planned to come back, which he did…
And while I definitely think it’s not cool to drink when ur taking care of kids, there are a decent amount of bars in certain countries that do allow you to take your kids in as long as ur taking care of them, it’s something relatively normal in those cultures..
She is a whole other story, there is literally no excuse for what she did. She tortured that baby girl. She is a monster.
Yall need to stop making excuses for the dad's negligence toward his daughter there is no excuse for that type of behavior.
@@TylerGage-op5hsexactly this because no one would have such sympathy if a mom left her daughter with an angry man (rightfully so)
Those eyes. Heartbreaking :(
so true, so zesty
I have a 3 year old daughter and when I see cases like this and I always think the hardest thing isn’t that they’re gone, it’d be imagining what they may have been feeling. Knowing that they were probably asking for mommy and I couldn’t be there to help them.
I had to stop watching your videos for a while.. I just can’t take it anymore
I remember living in an apartment and there was a young girl under me and her boyfriend stayed there. He didn't work or nothing, she did everything. One night I heard him beating the crap outta her. She needed help so I called for help. I had been there before and nobody ever came to help me. I couldn't live with myself if he really hurt her. So I get angry when I hear these people talk about they heard this and kids being abused and they have so much to say when the child is murdered. You should keep that to yourself because you should be ashamed of yourself if you hear children being tortured and beat and you did nothing 😢😮
The Guarda WERE called. But it came through as a noise complaint.
💯💯. My downstairs neighbors set me up to be trafficked. A man and woman and he shoved crystal up my a** and recorded my body parts etc
The neighbour did call.
Also, kids are difficult, because they scream a lot. They scream like they're being murdered if they get a red cup instead of a pink one. If you hear a kid screaming, it's likely that it's just a kid being a kid. Sometimes it's hard to know for sure. That's why if you hear something, just say something. A decent parent can easily explain the screaming to first responders.
@@BeckBeckGoSOMETHING ABOUT YOU AIN'T RIGHT!!
Totally agreed!!!
It's bizarre that the killer was able to enjoy her baby while out on bail 😮 while the others were suffering through Santinas loss 🍼 💜✝️
They left her baby on her care? I missed that. Bonkers.
Yeah sickening
After hearing she was pregnant I wondered if they took the baby or where the baby is? With the dad. Does anyone know?
It's unfair bizarre weird infuriating sometimes I wonder where is the justice
Thank you both for what you do! I can't imagine how difficult it must be to look into so many of these poor children's deaths, but it is necessary too. ❤
Everyone says they can't understand why this happened because Karen was so good with kids. But the thing is... those other kids were kids she WANTED to be around. Kids from HER friends and HER family and the two that were with her boyfriend when SHE came into his life? They were all safe. But this baby she didn't want to watch? She's dead. She's a selfish woman. While i understand being upset a kid was basically dumped on you and she was drunk, that's no excuse to harm the child. She should have called someone for help or to vent. The moment she turned her anger on the innocent little girl was the moment she became a monster. Karen has, unfortunately, lived up to the meme in the most horrifically violent way.
You don't know what she did to those kids.
@lauradees4625 obviously nothing if they loved her so much and weren't afraid of her.
Ego brought that man and woman, together- appearances were probably, important to them both.
Neither wanted to admit that they were two large pieces, of shit that could not be responsible, for that child because they were too self preoccupied.
Neither, exhibited highly empathetic traits and those people are dangerous, to the helpless most, of all.
The extremely young, old, ill, weak or disabled are subject to the traits these people, never work on.
Are you effing kidding me? There's no living up or down to a f****** meme. Karen is a name that took about a week to become a word that reflects more poorly on the person using it than the person that's being used against. She's simply a horrible woman who happens to be named Karen. Stop the misogyny. Do better.
Maybe Karen pulled an Alexis.
Oh my God! This is the worst case of child abuse I have ever heard. You guys do such a great job on these stories, thank you for all you do! This story here is devastating, heartbreaking. Rest in peace little angel
I love the way you cover each case. Your respect and empathy for every victim is amazing. Thank you for keeping going, you both are wonderful and so easy to listen too. Xx
"Her mouth looked all wrong be cause of the damage done to her teeth." That finally got tears to drop.
Same here 😞
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That got mine going too. So heartbreaking
Same and then a blinding rage
The toys in the casket got me.
Who in their right mind leaves a child with someone you had multiple fights with previously
I can’t express how much we appreciate how delicately you give these babies a voice that they don’t have anymore. It’s insane but there is never going to be a time where you don’t have a story to tell. Even if all abuse stopped there still wouldn’t be enough days to tell all of the stories that have happened up until then. But hopefully you guys doing what you’re doing can slow these stories down. If you see something, please say something. You guys definitely make that super clear as well. Thank you guys for what you do. We love you guys and never want you to stop doing this amazing work. ❤
Thank you guys for helping us to remember these tiny creatures, who barely had a chance at life. They deserve to be remembered, despite how painful it is for us who remember them, and how much it makes us cry. Their memories live on through us, and will do so forever. I don't know how you do what you do. Thank you.
I have no words.
Rip baby angel
Every time I fall into self-hating, I remind myself I am not like those evil pieces of you know what.
sending some love
Oh sweety 😢 we all have moments,but I never felt self hate,but I do have depression & worried about my disabled child. Stay positive we all have issues.
No! You shouldn't hate yourself unless you know for sure your a bad person. Hurt people without murder,talk bad about others ect. @@KOTEBANAROT
“Mr Waifu Taker” LMFAO.
It's hard but when you catch yourself falling into those thoughts just try remembering that you're taking everyday one step at a time
What good father is out partying at 3:00am with a baby and on foot walking around looking for a cousin?
A woman brutally murders a baby, and you instead rage against the man. Speaks volumes.
And what kind of father makes nasty racist and sexist comments? A horrible one, and a piss-poor human being, too. The worst of humanity.
Drug addict parents so losers
A very neglectful father. I'm from Cork, and this entire family are all drink and drugs, as we say here.
Couldent agree more shameless
That’s a hard looking 38. How did she go from being so wonderful with children to murdering one !? Children and alcohol don’t mix. They shouldn’t have been lugging the child around like that. Her father should have stayed with his daughter
He should have stayed home and provided a warm comfortable home for his poor baby. Packing her around drunk and fighting at 3am! They are both irredeemable!
Absolutely right. A selfish loser and deadbeat dad, unmistakably
Well, I agree that you can't take care of a child while drunk, but it won't make 99.9% of people to kill a baby. Even of they are yours.
OMG I named my daughter Santita and when she got older she changed it to Santina.
This is a beautiful little girl.
How do you become jealous of your own baby ?
I hope she never gets out.
Santina was not her baby
Sadly, Santina wasn't her baby. Perhaps if she had been, she'd still be alive. There's a number of cases where people like this harmed someone else's baby in their care while treating their own children with love. I can only guess that it's because the see their own children as an extension of themselves, and other people's kids as an extension of their parents. My stepmother saw me as nothing more than an extension of my mother, who she hated more than anything, and she hurt me consistently while treating her own children, my half brothers, as royalty. It was as if she was two different people. As screwed up as it is, I am so incredibly grateful my brothers have known nothing but love. I'm glad they don't know what their mother is capable of. Although, I fear for any woman they might marry some day, and any children they might have. God help them.
@@maddiekain7728 did you even watch the video?.. Santina was not her baby.
U asking the wrong person hun. @@callianne666
It's a gorgeous name.
12:01 I’ve had my hair ripped from my head. I literally cannot imagine this baby girl having to go through this.
My father used to do that to me (12 years ago); it makes me sick a baby went through this.
i wonder if her dad still thinks his cousin was more important then his daughters life.
I wonder if Karen blacked out and took her anger out on this precious baby. I hope she rots in jail.
Red hair and blue eyes, the rarest combination in the world. A beautiful little Irish babe. So sad. ❤
White children as a whole are only 2% of the world.
She was absolutely beautiful! How could the woman do such a thing to a baby girl?
Both of my kids are red haired and blue eyed.
@@juliemclaughlin5782 My youngest is the only one with both like me.
..no it isn't. Red hair and green eyes is
I know what its like to crave a cigarette as im a smoker myself, but even i can't understand how an addiction can cause someone to kill anybody (adult or child) for not being able to have what they're craving for
Sounds as though they had been taking dr*gs also. That's likely what happened, some sort of psychotic episode.
Because it was a lie and deflection, from the truth she can't accept.
I refused to leave my child alone, to walk a block for my cigarette addiction- I had bitterness and rage and postpartum anxiety/depression but those things were eclipsed, by love and compassion when it came, to my child.
There's so many things you simply can't do when you have love and compassion
Exactly. Im a percocet addict , and i would never do this. I wont let anyone watch my cats either. I love animals and kids so much and nice people
@@HeatherSmith-ii7mi i love all of those things, too. I too have cats
WTH could a baby do to make you that mad??? There’s absolutely NOTHING! I just don’t understand how someone can do this.
This is one of the saddest things I have ever heard. Bless that poor babies heart. She is with Jesus now.
Absolutely disgraceful, the poor baby 💔 im surprised she was allowed near any children
I remember being absolutely TERRIFIED when my daughter started school. We see so many horror stories of children being mistreated by "trusted" adults. I even homeschooled her for her kindergarten year because I was so scared. I've always reminded her that if she is mistreated by ANYONE that she tells me asap. She's 9 now, and LUCKILY, she has been well-treated by all the faculty and students at her school. But I still remind her. Just in case.
I don't let anyone other than my immediate family babysit her. Still yet.
My greatest fear is someone hurting my child.
I’m absolutely heartbroken for poor baby, Santina. May Karen get the prison justice she deserves.
Females in prison don't care what anyone does to a child. I know I work at a female prison for 5 years.
Mass of the angels 😢 thats so beautiful yet so mournful...
God bless that little angel 🥺
Ty for spreading awareness...none of these children died in vein.
I know what you're trying to say but they did die in vain
Spreading awareness is important but the way you phrased this implies that the child's death was somehow a noble sacrifice to spread awareness of ???? What??? Of her murder? Of children's murders? Those could have had awareness spread without the death of an infant??
Her death was entirely in vain, entirely without any positive outcome
And saying it wasn't in vain is something you'd say about a person who knowingly sacrifices their life to save someone else's, or save a group of children, etc
Not a child tortured and murdered???
I watch/listen to your videos every time I go to work…I cannot believe the absolute scary people who live in this world. Being a mama of four kids myself, I could never imagine the evil-ness that goes into harming a child. Thank you to you both for the amount of information and work you put into every video, you both are amazing!
RIP😢
My daughter used to fall down the stairs all the time at 2 and 3 years old!!! She would just run in socks or try to climb down the hand railing! We went to the ER so much for it the ER docs contacted her pediatrician to teach me how to check her to make sure she was ok so I didn't have to keep coming in when she was always fine . She never once got anything more than a bruise here or there! She would fall I would run and try and catch her, but I had two younger siblings that were usually in my arms! I would hold her and move all her limbs and check her for bruising over the next hour. She's 21 today and honestly just as clumsy.
I don't understand these parents bringing in children for "falling down the stairs" and expecting everyone to believe them! Kids are very resilient, unless they are being abused!!!!!!!!!
I mean, we don't know what the staurs were made of, how she fell, or how steep the stairs were. I was 12 the first time I broke my leg, and I only missed one step on a concrete staircase. I have a friend who broke his femur at 7 because he fell off his razor scooter wrong. Someone else in the comments even mentioned that their baby had a brittle bone condition. To take a child from the parent without extensively making sure they were doing the right thing felt negligent on the child services' part, and a baby girl ended up dead because of it.
My son was jumping on the bed fell off and broke his arm he wasn't crying so we just ate dinner afterwards his arm was 3x it's normal size then we went to the ER
I believe the mom.
I caught my 2 year old my the neck of the shirt the other day. He was standing at the top of the stairs and turned to look up at me but stepped back at the same time.
My hand shot out to grab whatever I could and thankfully he was fine.
3 kids in 10 years and we've only had 1 in the hospital and that was for a pulled elbow after fighting with her older brother. We were worried before we went in but apparently it's a common injury in kids when they have siblings of different ages. They told us they usually suspect things when kids have bruises in places that aren't typical of falls. Bruises on upper arms in small children are not typical of falls. Small bruises on legs and knees are normal but large bruises on thighs can also be suspicious.
I jumped off a chair (a chair!!! Like a foot off the ground!) and broke my leg when I was around 8. My mom didn't even take me to the doctor until the next day because it was frankly unbelievable, but sometimes you just land wrong, or you have a disorder that causes weak bones that hasn't been diagnosed yet. I also got a concussion when I was around 5 months old because I was running through the house and tripped and hit my head on a table. The doctors didn't believe my mom until she put me down to show that, yes, I could in fact walk at 5 months old. Every person's body is different, your experiences aren't universal, etc etc.
I have a knot in my stomach listening to this. How can anyone hurt a little innocent child has to be evil.
RIP Little Angel🙏
You folks do an awesome job with the videos you post! Professional, factual and comprehensive in substance. Well done!
I wouldn't say comprehensive. They omit a lot. Both parents in this case were glaringly dysfunctional and neglectful, but this was never stated.
It should NEVER have taken that long for her to be behind bars. 5k in bail for brutally murdering a child? What the actual hell.
Oh this Just Blows my mind I Love How you Handel thease cases with such Empathy
Perfect timing 2min after download as im getting ready to paint my bedroom wall. Love you guys thank you.
My husband and I are getting our room emptied to be able to paint and put new flooring down. Our water main busted and flooded the front of the first floor. Our room, the hall going the garage, and garage got flooded too. It was a mess. Had to do new sheetrock too on the lower half of the walls too. 🙄
@@tootsie3612oh wow that sucks!! Hope you guys are able to get through it quickly but at least you'll have a nice fresh area to look at afterwards lol
@tootsie3612 no fun, our water heater burst in our garage last year and we were pakingbto move over half our stuff got ruined thank goodness for insurance (although we didnt have big enough coverage to cover it all it was better than nothing) good luck thats a alot of work. We down sized and moves into a 5th wheel and will start travling next year.
This was so disturbing. I just don't understand why he left her. How can anyone be this evil!
Dear little Santina , such a beautiful baby. R.I.P. dance with the angels 😇
The evil that occurred that night is unimaginable. They will be held accountable.
11:09 ..that poor baby 😢😢😢😢😢😭 I'm so so so so so sorry for the family..this is so sad and heart wrenching..and horrible..😢😢😢
Thank you guys!
Thank you for sharing. The title is so disturbing and Over a cigarette! Bless that sweet baby. 😢
I can't even imagine.....my heart is broken for this little girl 💔
Listening to you guys makes my work days much easier & I thank you both for that 🖤
Thank you for all the hard and endless work yall put into giving these victims a voice! I hope y’all’s Labor Day was fun and relaxing ☺️
Other people trusted her with their children. Maybe they should talk to THOSE children (if they were old enough to remember) and find out what she might have done to THEM. Remember -Myra Hindley (look her up if you don't recognize the name) was the neighborhood babysitter, too.
You only gotta tell me ONE TIME that you don’t wanna watch my child! My mom barely ever wanted to watch my kid/s because well…..her mom never watched us for her barely ever.
Once she said no, that was it. There was no leaving my kid with her or forcing my child upon someone who doesn’t want to watch them. Not that my mom would ever have hurt my kids, it’s just simple common sense.
I don’t have to be told twice! That’s how you end up with this crap. That father has a part in why his child got hurt.
Had I been that father, that woman would no longer be among the living.
Exactly. Karen is a sick waste of space
RIP Santina ❤ thank you for spreading awareness
Thank you for sharing Santina’s story. I’m glad there was justice in this case however I’m so sorry to the family that she is gone 🙏😇
@.04 Awww. She’s adorable!🥹 Her violet eyes and auburn hair… just too precious.😢
How many more precious babies are going to lose their lives to these horrific people, I am afraid I have lost my faith in humanity. RIP all the wonderful children who have lost their precious lives to these monsters ❤🙏
I remember when I broke my daughter’s femur bone, doing physio..
I didn’t even think twice about taking her to the hospital as she wasn’t verbal but I knew she was in pain..
I just thought if I get questioned I’ll take it, as long as she’s comfortable.
School broke her knee the year later 😢 then turned out she had brittle bones and even just hoisting could break something
I remember this case, I do not believe for 1 minute Karen didn’t show any signs of aggression before, it’s very rare ppl just flip like this. Sadly Santina paid the price. 😢
The pain she must of gone threw that night.
She’s not remorseful about her actions, she’s not said what happened 😠
Yes I’d of done the same then coming face 2 face with this monster!
How anyone can take there temper out on anyone like this never mind a small toddler, she tortured her!
Social services couldn’t of been that worried about Bridget letting her keep all her other children..the family was failed like many before and after them 😢
RIP and fly high baby! ❤
My daughter has O.I type 3 it was only 5 types when my daughter was born in 2007 she was born with everything broken except her hands,feet and spine. So I know exactly what you're talking about. Osteogenesis Imperfecta also known as the brittle bone syndrome. I had a friend who daughter had rickets.
@@Ms.Royalty7743poor babies. to be in constant pain.
I have osteomalacia and have since I was 19. Understand the brittle bone issue.
Having a child with brittle bones (& similar) would be so scary! And the kids that have to go through life with this condition 😢 Years ago, I heard about a child that was taken from their parents for abuse, they ended up in the system where a foster parent killed them. Then, it was discovered the child had brittle bones. I felt so awful for the parents. Lose your child when you know you didn't do anything to them & then for the child to lose their life where they placed them. Of course I felt awful for the child too.
I don’t know how you both can handle talking about these cases you cover without showing just how angry 😤 it makes you because hearing them makes my blood boil. I don’t know how a mother could ever get beyond the MURDER of their child. This is an absolutely horrible heartbreaking 💔 story. I don’t know how a human being can hurt a child, cause any pain to a child much less murder a child. It must take an evil person to hurt innocent little children! I’m sure there’s a special place in hell for this Karen!
I have to applaud 👏 you both on covering these crimes and really have to limit these horrific cases because they make me so ANGRY 😡. I don’t know how the two of you make it possible to share these stories with us because it has to affect you probably more than your viewers. Thank you for your hard work and tears you’ve shed to continue to bring these stories to us. ❤
Neither one of these parents should have kids. Father leaves a baby with someone who tells him she doesn't want the child
@@johnottway8074 no one said it's equivalent. But it was idiotic and he shouldn't have done it.
@@johnottway8074he should have known better , and now because of him a baby lost her life
@@johnottway8074 you don’t think being out at 2-3am DRUNK with a toddler , pawning her off on someone who didn’t want her , screaming at said person and then leaving just to go off for 2-3 hours , doesn’t make him responsible for what happened also? If not for him baby girl wouldn’t have been in the care of that deranged hyena 🤷🏽♀️.
@@STAYATINYARMYSINright and leaving her with a complete stranger like a babysitter would be any safer then someone you love that your just having a rlly bad argument with (which happens a ton in relationships depending on the level of argument)? There have been many babysitter murders as well. And he only left her with her to look for someone and he planned to come right back, which he obviously did. Yes he should have probably just stayed there and not look for his cousin, but he was drunk, which is the most irresponsible thing he did and probably is what led to his poor decisions. They could have gotten even closer if that night didn’t happen and gotten married, and she could have still had a horrific outburst like that when he was not around just in the future. He made poor decisions. But she was an absolute monster that he thought he loved.
@@STAYATINYARMYSINlike to put all the blame on him is completely ridiculous. He didn’t leave her with a complete stranger. He left her with his loved one who already had experience with taking care of kids. That woman had the choice to kill that baby. She is the reason the little girl is gone.
I learned the hard way that you can never fully trust anyone!! My own mother watched my kids one day while my husband and i went to the doctor. My son has severe autism. He had a meltdown while we were gone and she ended up throwing stuff back st him, then held him down and twisted his arm behind his back. Almost broke it!! I found out because my daughter told me. 🤬
@@jxn1056
Wow! Have you ever confronted your mother about it? Instead of admitting that she's not up to the task(psychologically, and it's not her fault) in order to avoid being (wrongfully) labeled as a cold, uncaring grandma - paradoxically, she ended up behaving as a bad, physically abusive grandma which is many times worse!
@@matovicmmilan I did. She denied it, of course
@@matovicmmilan you're right!
Oh this is hard 😢😢😢😢 poor little princess 😞 RIP babygirl 😔
I know I’m a lot of cases police drop the ball, but as someone who lived in Ireland for half a year, the guarda were always so kind. Of course every agency has their issues, but truly it’s nice every once in a while to see a force do their job nicely. Rest easy Santina, sending her family all the love in the world.
Wow, what a horrible woman!
That sweet, lovely, innocent blessing of a baby girl should never have had to endure what happened to her.
Last week I broke a lower vertebrae. Before my injury I would listen to your videos while working every morning, not watching the horrible injuries that these monsters do to the children. This is the very first time, after 3 plus years of finding your channel, where I watched it through.
Thank you for all you do. I can't imagine the scenarios that you both have to view in order to create this content.
Thank you! You both ( kitties included) are Angels 😇
Take care
RIP Santina. Thank you TheMiseryMachine 💠
10:33 that is lie the most precious little angel. Her big blue eyes and red hair. 😢
❤MM. Thank you for what you do. I'm sending my love, positive thoughts, and good mental health because I know how much these affect you guys. Cuddle the kitties. Sending my love.
Thank you for never ignoring the forgotten ones, and giving them the voice they didn't have.❤
Poor little Santina, God knows what that woman did to her, hope she was given life and never gets out of prison. I can imagine doing what her father did, in public or wherever. After seeing your child like that, then having to bury her, I think most people may react like that.
Fly high little angel 😢😢😢😢😢😢❤ from Scotland
Mass of the angels is a funeral mass for children- it’s called mass of the angels as children are innocent & sinless they go straight to heaven ❤
Maybe I saw an old community tab post but I thought there wasn't a video coming out this week...? maybe I read it wrong. who knows. Lol. But I'm just happy there's a video out. thank you for the upload! always appreciate it! you guys rock!!!💛
Video was moved to today and Thursday at 2PM EST because of Labor Day in America. Also it's a decent excuse to post pictures of the kitties. Thanks for being here early!!
@@TheMiseryMachinedamn right.😺😺😺
I absolutely love your style and execution of these true crime tales. You respectfully honor the victims and their families, and I can feel your anger and incredulous outrage when talking about the perpetrators in these stories...ty both for a job well done! I subscribed ❤
R.I.P. peace little angel. May you never feel pain again. My heart felt condolences😢to all the family and friends. The devil walks amongst us.
The care, empathy, and detail to the victims is outstanding in these videos. I appreciate all that you do to share these victims stories
Horrific..Santina must have been so scared.❤ poor sweet girl ❤
This happened in the city where I'm from, what happened to poor Santina broke our city, I see her mother, grandmother and siblings around and I'm heartbroken for them., I also see her father don't know what way to feel about him, r.i.p. beautiful baby Santina 💜
He's just as guilty 😔
What happened to her baby once she was incarcerated ? Who was her baby’s father ?
I don't know what happened her baby, Michael is the father
@@denisem1080he is
@patsybensend Michael is the father
This case breaks my heart. I am so disturbed by how many babies and tound children are murdered by friends or love interests in this timenin history. I pray for this family to heal from this horrific crime.