Only partway through the video but I love listening to brucewayner geek out over all the talents etc., it reminds me of my hunter in vanilla and how much I loved the talents but it was so long ago I had forgotten. Great interview.
on the scatter trap DR thing, people thought it was a bug and it actually IS a bug, but it's a bug that existed back on classic when blizz added DR to the game they forgot to add proper DR categories to trap and scatter, that's why they DR on each other they fixed it when the TBC prepatch was released
42:00 - Overpower cannot be parried. I have wondered if Deterrence is really worth using against an arms warrior unless you're in a position where you have to take the risk. I guess if they haven't applied hamstring yet that'd be a reason to use it, worth getting crit to dodge hamstring.
from what ive learned from playing rogue evasion is 100% worth using, hes likely to proc overpower whether you use it or not and you will avoid a ton of dmg with 50% avoidance added
are you sure that clever traps working in pvp right now ? i mean 2 points to clever traps is increases the freezing trap duration 10 sec to 13 sec in pvp ?
any toughts on the elementium threaded cloak from chromaggus ? 16 stam 169 armor and 2% dodge (obviously amazing for druids but might be nice for hunter aswell)
LIZARD_1582 - oh is that what it is? I was honestly wondering the same thing. I’m no “expert” but I’ve liked every deep dive Tips had put out and he always seems genuine and kind. People are strange man lol.
curious what he thinks about a mana regen trinket swap once your Insignia is down. Something like Minds tap would be a substantial amount of mana for a hunter, or even possibly the 4 mana per 5 bracer enchant.
What is Bruce saying at 14:06? "...really strong, but when we get ________. Like I haven't seen it..." Slowed it down to 0.50x speed and still couldn't understand lol EDIT: "Ashjre'thul" is the weapon. No wonder he sounded like he was on xanax.
@@brodelnaz everything is broken in classic. I also love these "Duels" where the fucks actually drink and eat. Or how engineering seems mandatory for PvP. Bad desighn
scatter + trap is indeed a bug. It just happend that it was present in the version of the game they refer to (1.12), so they declared it to be a feature. It was not present in most previous versions (I think they introduced it with 1.9 or 1.10 idk). They just did not care that later patch notes statet that this was a bug.
this video was helpful and alot of this was very good to konw but the 15 min joygasm on skull of impending doom was way too much. i had to skip ahead....sorry
@@markxv2267 with the huge health pool and insane avoidance you dont need big ranged damage from cookie cutter Mark's. 25 to 30 % passive dodge with 10 % parry before deterrence is even used. With increased pet dmg and crit. Increased trap damage and melee crit. Wyvern sting dot. Theres plenty of dmg to go around.
Hunter suffers the most from all the #nochangesbutsomechanges nonesense in classic due to batching, feign bugging out and DR's not matching those of vanilla. It makes hunter have to be an extremely defensive class in classic and only strike when the timing is right.
Best classic PvP Hunter Guide of whole Azeroth!
Love your vids dude, keep on going!
Only partway through the video but I love listening to brucewayner geek out over all the talents etc., it reminds me of my hunter in vanilla and how much I loved the talents but it was so long ago I had forgotten. Great interview.
What a great feeling that is, my dude
Clear comms!
This will be a good one :)
Love your deep dives keep it, learn alot on the druid one. Can't wait to finish watching this.
Heck yeah Tips! I've been excitedly anticipating this one.
timestamps would really be appreciated in a 2.5hr+ video >
Hooah
For real
Why?
Seriously
Brucewayner is the reason why I started to arena and RBG back in the day. Best dueler I've ever seen.
Thanks for another PvP Deep Dive. Hope to see one with Shadow Priest as well later on. Have a good one!
To those wanting wolf deathmaw for 1.2 attack speed wolf, take a Black wolf from SFK dungeon and they are also 1.2 wolf.
furious howl = equivalent damage bonus of just over 2x trueshot aura
If you have any Hunter questions for Bruce, you can ask him personally in his discord: discord.gg/KXaFrw9
Thanks so much! Is it really worth it to take the 5% more ranged dmg over the raised agi instead?
I learned so much, thank you!!!
Hope you getting Perplexity for rogue deep dive!
awesome deep dive for hunter, love it !
This will be my classic hunter bible! Great vid!
on the scatter trap DR thing, people thought it was a bug and it actually IS a bug, but it's a bug that existed back on classic
when blizz added DR to the game they forgot to add proper DR categories to trap and scatter, that's why they DR on each other
they fixed it when the TBC prepatch was released
Both of these guys seem so nice! Great tips!
Good stuff Tips, Quality internet, keep m rollin!!
great video, thank you for making this series
This is some deep knowledge, helped me out a great deal. Thanks.
how to put trap in fight is there some macro good one
Maybe I missed it but I didn't hear them talk about optimal races. I know Brucewayner is Orc but would be nice to get some insight on that,
42:00 - Overpower cannot be parried. I have wondered if Deterrence is really worth using against an arms warrior unless you're in a position where you have to take the risk. I guess if they haven't applied hamstring yet that'd be a reason to use it, worth getting crit to dodge hamstring.
from what ive learned from playing rogue evasion is 100% worth using, hes likely to proc overpower whether you use it or not and you will avoid a ton of dmg with 50% avoidance added
actually you CAN use tranq shot in pvp :D it removes attack speed from bm hunters pets
are you sure that clever traps working in pvp right now ? i mean 2 points to clever traps is increases the freezing trap duration 10 sec to 13 sec in pvp ?
any toughts on the elementium threaded cloak from chromaggus ? 16 stam 169 armor and 2% dodge (obviously amazing for druids but might be nice for hunter aswell)
Not sure why all the downvotes, I thought he was an awesome guest. GJ tips!
has nothing to do with the guest. elitists just like shitting on tips because he doesnt remember every little thing about classic.
LIZARD_1582 - oh is that what it is?
I was honestly wondering the same thing. I’m no “expert” but I’ve liked every deep dive Tips had put out and he always seems genuine and kind. People are strange man lol.
think it's mostly hunters that think they're right no matter what and disagree with one talent point in the build lol
@@Lizard1582YO TAUNT.
curious what he thinks about a mana regen trinket swap once your Insignia is down. Something like Minds tap would be a substantial amount of mana for a hunter, or even possibly the 4 mana per 5 bracer enchant.
Surivalist is insane went from 4,5k-5k, u can surive 1v2 with out rocket helm or MC cap
What is Bruce saying at 14:06? "...really strong, but when we get ________. Like I haven't seen it..."
Slowed it down to 0.50x speed and still couldn't understand lol
EDIT: "Ashjre'thul" is the weapon. No wonder he sounded like he was on xanax.
Are hunter traps visible to opponents or invisible. We’re they ever invisible if not?
Invisible.
No.
they are visible to rogues
FINALLY
Atlast hunter, my class
i feel bald now, thank you bruce!!
So BASICALLY every 1.5-3 SECONDS there is server CHECK or TICK that is HUGE when you advantage of it via using FOOD and TRAPS!
Great video
Nice vid. Love the PVP Deep Dives the most! Would be cool to have two guests for each class, for any counter views.
It would be awesome if you could do a paladin deep dive soon!
Where is the Shaman one you promised on your stream?!
already recorded. Going in alphabetical order
@@TipsOutBaby It has been a week now. What is going on with the video???
Impatient and ungrateful moron, thats what you are
This vid made me sad I vendored mark of resolution not sure if its really that legit tho BW probably not trolling?
We need another one!!!
Wtf are the pet macros? Screen is too small haha
110 people that got dusted by Brucey lawl
@Righteous Indignation you're on crack
No one came here to hear someone talk about the dual tournament we want open world pvp
CLEAR COMS
Really? we always trained hunters in our wsg premades cause we knew they are doing tons of dmg if allowed to freeball whatever they want
I like this
They must have removed the aspect of cheetah global, playing with it now and I can cancel it right away.
Where is the mage deep dive?
Niceblood coming up next!
Sheep and eat.. theres your mage deep dive.
Ray Lanza and there’s the peak of classic pvp ignorance
@@sakkijarvisuomi2712 mages are broken in duels. You call it ignorance if u want, but it just makes you look silly.
@@brodelnaz everything is broken in classic. I also love these "Duels" where the fucks actually drink and eat. Or how engineering seems mandatory for PvP. Bad desighn
Loot council?
Just came to see if the comments about you being a terrible tyrant raid leader are really being deleted as fast as they are saying they are.
scatter + trap is indeed a bug. It just happend that it was present in the version of the game they refer to (1.12), so they declared it to be a feature. It was not present in most previous versions (I think they introduced it with 1.9 or 1.10 idk). They just did not care that later patch notes statet that this was a bug.
Bullshit
yo TAUNT!
Where are all the negative comments going? Oh thats right Tips deletes them.
This shit right here.
Less about him, more about hunter.
this video was helpful and alot of this was very good to konw but the 15 min joygasm on skull of impending doom was way too much. i had to skip ahead....sorry
gg
Malding lol
20-0-31 melee hunter bg spec. So much fun
@@markxv2267 with the huge health pool and insane avoidance you dont need big ranged damage from cookie cutter Mark's. 25 to 30 % passive dodge with 10 % parry before deterrence is even used. With increased pet dmg and crit. Increased trap damage and melee crit. Wyvern sting dot. Theres plenty of dmg to go around.
@@brodelnaz Fun, yes. Optimal, not even close
@@graog123 optimal shmoptimal
I’m top hunter in North America. No can touch me
Forgot paladins again
Lol huntard don't need guide🤔🤔
Hunter is one of the hardest classes to play at a high level lol
Says a guy who probably mains a Paladin
Hunter suffers the most from all the #nochangesbutsomechanges nonesense in classic due to batching, feign bugging out and DR's not matching those of vanilla. It makes hunter have to be an extremely defensive class in classic and only strike when the timing is right.
Retail player confirmed
The meme does not apply to classic hunter