2:50 those are so great! Both looks and sound, i work at a shop that sells loudspeakers, amplifiers etc, and most of us that works there likes those ones the best. You gotta hear them
That's funny. When the worker disassembles the tweeter, there appears to be a small compartment directly in back of the diaphragm and then a disk of some sort. Now the idea of the "teardrop" shape of the tweeter assembly is to "soak up" the back wave (produced by the diaphragm) so it can't bounce back and corrupt the "new", frontal wave and cause distortion. I guess this isn't the case anymore. I wonder if the midrange teardrop head is just for show as well?
Between the model of the 802D2 series and the 802D3 series, the price of a pair of loudspeakers has been increased by almost 60%, from 14,000€ for an 802d2 to 22,000€ for the 802D3!!!! BW may have said that there were several hundred improvements between the two models, but I see only the desire of a company to better remunerate these shareholders with a super luxury product, especially as we can see on this video, it is only the top and very high end that is still made in England and a good part of the work is done by CNC machine, robotics... The rest of the range is relocated to countries with low labour costs! In conclusion, the real luxury is made in England, with a lot of manpower and not necessarily with a price that borders on indecency!!!! It seems obvious that the more famous Hi-Fi brands are, the more they take their customers for safes and nothing else. Fortunately, there are many other creators and manufacturers of loudspeakers on our planet who offer products that are certainly less aesthetically pleasing, but much more musical and more affordable.
Visually their speakers look great but the actual performance isn't that impressive. And of course the reason for the higher price is largely to enrich their shareholders. I will see what i can do myself offering something way better for a lower price (looking to register the LLC this year or the next).
The bass heavy music that I mostly listen to I think I would be wasting these speakers on my application. If I cut them off around 80 Hz it might be worth it. I wonder what brand of amplifiers they recommend?
Современная техника позволяет делать оригинальные вещи, но на этом по большому счётк всё и заканчивается. Необычные корпуса с шикарной отделкой, а так то если рядом поставить дспешные прямоугольные ящики старого производства, то дикого выигрыша в звуке большинство и не услышат. в прошлом веке полно было изысков в конструкции динамиков и современные совсем не лучше.
DeShawn 'Dawg' BNBG true, a friend of mine was visiting a hifi shop with his wife. She thinks “nice a mic, let’s karaoke” almost ripped the d-tweeter of the speaker..!
Did you asked them what happened to the majority of employees in England when they shifted most of their production in China over 10 years ago ?!? Hmmmm ???? I guess they sacked them out on the streets of course , just kept few for R&D department and production of the small number of units still produced in England. They have been increasing the prices progressively on all the ranges since then and sure they don't pay em much, those poor abused workers in China ! As with everything in the world which is going down in the gutter !!! And,who is benefiting, just the very few on the top ! So lets consider all of the above facts for starters, about everything in todays life. Loudspeakers, well... aint that massively important in the big picture ! Just to stay on the topic ...I started with B&W over 20 years ago with DM302 ,than 601 S2 ,than 602 S3, than 703 ! and even the basic offering was made in England and than all the sudden in a sneaky way "Made in China !!!" .Mother Truckin pile of BS !!! Unlike brands, as the German engineered and designed -Vincent for example, that from the very beginning was made in China and they were open and cool about it ! Would I buy B&W speakers nowadays ,well NOT this new 800, thats for sure !!! Looks soo unappealing to me,its ridiculous and bordering on ugly. No matter of the sound quality even if I get it for free, the damn thing will annoy me to hell and back and I wont be able to stand it in my listening room. Thats why I choose German made Audio Physic ( massive sound quality and value for the money as well). Oh, their sister higher end electronics company Classe ,also looks to rounded and flimsy as ... jeeez Im speechless kinda way. I've experienced in store their top separates, the volume knob on the pre amp, buttons, those displays and things as such utterly ridiculous for MY taste. But if someone thinks that B&W or Classe shall float their boat, oh well ,ofcourse go get it NOW , and I'll be honestly happy for you if you enjoy it ! No I don't base my hifi choices on looks only,or let alone just German gear( also Im not German), but its a matter of a entirely personal experience throughout ! B&W pissed me off long time ago, and they aren't gettin my bussines ,NO WAY JOSE !!!
+Mi Camara That might be the case if you so please, do perceive it as such, it is your choice. Maybe a realistic, tactile and truthful understanding with emotions is the actual intended delivery . None of the above is a lie and the product comments are just MY own personal view point, nothing more nothing else! So, should I assume that you are a pacified wuss ? No, I'll go with the fact that you said what came on your mind. Enjoy to whatever you are listening and on whatever you are listening it on. If you get a pair of any of the new 800 line models and you enjoy em, well bro, honestly two thumbs up from me ! Be cool.
Not all workers in China are "poor and abused". The standards in factories in China are EXACTLY the same as in England. Don't talk about things you know nothing about and just assume that you do.
mmm im just old school sure yea these speakers are suposed to be so well designed so super esoteric an stuff just gimme great sound like the old greats j.b.l even technics poinerr kenwood marantz made super speakers even radio shack made the mach one !! 1.800 dlrs! 3.000 my god dont think you have to spend so money to get great sound !
i personally fid the D3's series of the 800 line all to look a bit tacky and 'lifestyle'. I own the previous incarnation of the 802's and i think that the wooden veneers and round back cabinet is much more attractive..This current series is too 'bling'. I also don't like to protruding front cones or curved front edge of the cabinet..I didn't like them when i first saw them in the flesh and they've never grown on me...They sound wonderful of course, but I've also heard the older Nautilus 800 speaker and it possesses everything that the current 800 does.
They look bling & crass a Kardashian aesthetic & sound very "HiFi" & I mean NOT natural - the larger Troels Gravesen designs will make these sound mediocare....
Nonsense. Nobody can afford a yacht, everybody can afford a set of speakers. Since when is it prohibited to ask the price of something you like? There are speakers that cost tens of thousands, and these don't look like they belong in that class... don't get too excited.
I wish I could afford them I have heard them before they simply are the best I'm so jealous I wish somebody would buy me a pair of them I would be your best friend
Так устроен современный "бизнес с высокой добавленной стоимостью" - делается нечто на стандартных динамиках Visaton (ничего против этой марки не имею, просто 8" динамик "хай-энд" у них 120$ стоит) и покрывается рояльным лаком в 10 слоев за тысячу, пиарится в глянцевых журналах и продается уже за десять тысяч. Так делать куда проще, нежели разрабатывать динамики специально под ограниченную серию колонок, как японцы в конце 70-х баловались.
spending big monies on these are speakers??? I rather get a dsp, a multichannel amp and some entry level speakers instead.. have fun creating yr own endless musical realm instead. you probably justify them as good sounding speakers because they look expensive and sell expensive!!!
TheRockerxx69 I agree. When I heard the 800 D3, I was certainly amazed by its holographic imaging and soundstage. However, to my ears they lacked power, presence, and bass. Very disappointing for a $30,000 US pair of speakers.
2:50 those are so great! Both looks and sound, i work at a shop that sells loudspeakers, amplifiers etc, and most of us that works there likes those ones the best. You gotta hear them
Bower & Wilkins are my favourite speakers.
I wish they were little cheaper.!
That's funny. When the worker disassembles the tweeter, there appears to be a small compartment directly in back of the diaphragm and then a disk of some sort. Now the idea of the "teardrop" shape of the tweeter assembly is to "soak up" the back wave (produced by the diaphragm) so it can't bounce back and corrupt the "new", frontal wave and cause distortion. I guess this isn't the case anymore. I wonder if the midrange teardrop head is just for show as well?
Between the model of the 802D2 series and the 802D3 series, the price of a pair of loudspeakers has been increased by almost 60%, from 14,000€ for an 802d2 to 22,000€ for the 802D3!!!!
BW may have said that there were several hundred improvements between the two models, but I see only the desire of a company to better remunerate these shareholders with a super luxury product, especially as we can see on this video, it is only the top and very high end that is still made in England and a good part of the work is done by CNC machine, robotics...
The rest of the range is relocated to countries with low labour costs!
In conclusion, the real luxury is made in England, with a lot of manpower and not necessarily with a price that borders on indecency!!!!
It seems obvious that the more famous Hi-Fi brands are, the more they take their customers for safes and nothing else.
Fortunately, there are many other creators and manufacturers of loudspeakers on our planet who offer products that are certainly less aesthetically pleasing, but much more musical and more affordable.
Visually their speakers look great but the actual performance isn't that impressive. And of course the reason for the higher price is largely to enrich their shareholders.
I will see what i can do myself offering something way better for a lower price (looking to register the LLC this year or the next).
@@vintologi I wish you good luck and success in your future business!
Beautiful. Oozing with quality.
Milan Dragojlov from Novi Sad-Serbia is the King of making a speakers.
The bass heavy music that I mostly listen to I think I would be wasting these speakers on my application. If I cut them off around 80 Hz it might be worth it. I wonder what brand of amplifiers they recommend?
Современная техника позволяет делать оригинальные вещи, но на этом по большому счётк всё и заканчивается. Необычные корпуса с шикарной отделкой, а так то если рядом поставить дспешные прямоугольные ящики старого производства, то дикого выигрыша в звуке большинство и не услышат. в прошлом веке полно было изысков в конструкции динамиков и современные совсем не лучше.
Супер! Вот это настоящий подход к производству. А то "некоторые" всю прибыль тратят на дворцы, а на производстве работают как в каменном веке).
Mass produced woodworking
what music do you play on the background? Soundhound doesn't recogise ti......
Shit Distorted AF Music :-)
Why the fuck did they overdub music? Why didn't they let us hear what we saw? It's utterly obnoxious! A video about speakers no less!
Eric van Olst That obnoxious noise isn't in the background
I wonder if the testers have earplugs so they don't get bleeding eardrums.
2:51 They look like someone's accidentally left a hand-mic laying on top of them....
DeShawn 'Dawg' BNBG true, a friend of mine was visiting a hifi shop with his wife. She thinks “nice a mic, let’s karaoke” almost ripped the d-tweeter of the speaker..!
Bello il video...ragazzi posso sapere com'è il titolo della musica?
2:40 - no white gloves???
для хорошего звука закрытых камер не достаточно,короче надо делать систему из набора разных резонаторов
Soundtrack name please.... somebody...!!!
Beautiful song
if anyone knows of a way i can test all their speakers i would appreciate that
Whera is your factory
are they still in Worthing?
Yes, I'm lucky enough to work there.
"Music by Staal" What Staal and what soundtrack is it?
ruclips.net/user/StaalBand
If they also played, they wouldn’t have any prices !!!
Did you asked them what happened to the majority of employees in England when they shifted most of their production in China over 10 years ago ?!? Hmmmm ????
I guess they sacked them out on the streets of course , just kept few for R&D department and production of the small number of units still produced in England. They have been increasing the prices progressively on all the ranges since then and sure they don't pay em much, those poor abused workers in China ! As with everything in the world which is going down in the gutter !!! And,who is benefiting, just the very few on the top ! So lets consider all of the above facts for starters, about everything in todays life. Loudspeakers, well... aint that massively important in the big picture !
Just to stay on the topic ...I started with B&W over 20 years ago with DM302 ,than 601 S2 ,than 602 S3, than 703 ! and even the basic offering was made in England and than all the sudden in a sneaky way "Made in China !!!" .Mother Truckin pile of BS !!!
Unlike brands, as the German engineered and designed -Vincent for example, that from the very beginning was made in China and they were open and cool about it !
Would I buy B&W speakers nowadays ,well NOT this new 800, thats for sure !!! Looks soo unappealing to me,its ridiculous and bordering on ugly. No matter of the sound quality even if I get it for free, the damn thing will annoy me to hell and back and I wont be able to stand it in my listening room. Thats why I choose German made Audio Physic ( massive sound quality and value for the money as well). Oh, their sister higher end electronics company Classe ,also looks to rounded and flimsy as ... jeeez Im speechless kinda way. I've experienced in store their top separates, the volume knob on the pre amp, buttons, those displays and things as such utterly ridiculous for MY taste. But if someone thinks that B&W or Classe shall float their boat, oh well ,ofcourse go get it NOW , and I'll be honestly happy for you if you enjoy it !
No I don't base my hifi choices on looks only,or let alone just German gear( also Im not German), but its a matter of a entirely personal experience throughout ! B&W pissed me off long time ago, and they aren't gettin my bussines ,NO WAY JOSE !!!
You have too much anger in you
+Mi Camara That might be the case if you so please, do perceive it as such, it is your choice. Maybe a realistic, tactile and truthful understanding with emotions is the actual intended delivery . None of the above is a lie and the product comments are just MY own personal view point, nothing more nothing else! So, should I assume that you are a pacified wuss ? No, I'll go with the fact that you said what came on your mind. Enjoy to whatever you are listening and on whatever you are listening it on. If you get a pair of any of the new 800 line models and you enjoy em, well bro, honestly two thumbs up from me ! Be cool.
+Ace Golemi Was just kidding. Peace bro.
Didn't see one Chinese worker there, and the building was not one you find in China.
Not all workers in China are "poor and abused". The standards in factories in China are EXACTLY the same as in England. Don't talk about things you know nothing about and just assume that you do.
Focals are superior in every shape form and manner.
beautiful
Add a couple cheap DIY subs and now we're talkin'..............
im guessing my pair of radio shack panasonic speakers are outdated.
you can do a lot better with a diy design - have a look at Troels Gravesen
Dream speakers.
totally over-rated....
Bogdan Weiss True that! My Focal Chorus speakers sound better than these things.
mmm im just old school sure yea these speakers are suposed to be so well designed so super esoteric an stuff just gimme great sound like the old greats j.b.l even technics poinerr kenwood marantz made super speakers even radio shack made the mach one !! 1.800 dlrs! 3.000 my god dont think you have to spend so money to get great sound !
Music was horrendous. Thank goodness for the mute button.
bekommt jeder Mitarbeiter einen Satz geschenkt ?
i personally fid the D3's series of the 800 line all to look a bit tacky and 'lifestyle'. I own the previous incarnation of the 802's and i think that the wooden veneers and round back cabinet is much more attractive..This current series is too 'bling'. I also don't like to protruding front cones or curved front edge of the cabinet..I didn't like them when i first saw them in the flesh and they've never grown on me...They sound wonderful of course, but I've also heard the older Nautilus 800 speaker and it possesses everything that the current 800 does.
They look bling & crass a Kardashian aesthetic & sound very "HiFi" & I mean NOT natural - the larger Troels Gravesen designs will make these sound mediocare....
I have a pair of 802 diamonds and think they look and sound better than the D3's
Die Musik im Hintergrund ist genau so beschissen wie die Boxen selber!!
I'd hate to ask, as to how much those speakers are going for. It's like buying a Maybach S600 or a yacht, if you have to ask, you can't afford it. 😃
Nonsense. Nobody can afford a yacht, everybody can afford a set of speakers. Since when is it prohibited to ask the price of something you like? There are speakers that cost tens of thousands, and these don't look like they belong in that class... don't get too excited.
Ring on a finger ! not good 2:36
I'll assume it was a demonstration unit - but yea, still irks me...
woow
Expensive!
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Only Harbeth loudspeakers surpasses B & W.
B&w 800d3
The best acoustic in the world))))))
Broken painted in the factory
No support
No warranty
Bad company
Coming sun in RUclips
What
You need to lay off the alcohol, before commenting mate... That made no sense. Though I can assume it was an attempt at some form of slander.
Have you ever been in that factory ?
W tych kolumnach nie ma już artyzmu , ducha.i tego "czegoś"-została tylko technologia.
Génial !!! but 26000$ CDN dollars 🤔 maybe with a bank loan?!!!🧐
This is why they cost 20 grand.. The machinery..
Now seeing how they are made I wouldn’t pay $50 for them.
Finansbank
I have the 802 d3
I wish I could afford them I have heard them before they simply are the best I'm so jealous I wish somebody would buy me a pair of them I would be your best friend
Vulture Crotch breath you know they are better sounding speakers for half the price ? DO YOU ?
For such a high end speaker they used such awful music.
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I want job it
Made by robots sounds like robots.
Дорогие колонки . Их себестоимость не певышает 100-150$
Так устроен современный "бизнес с высокой добавленной стоимостью" - делается нечто на стандартных динамиках Visaton (ничего против этой марки не имею, просто 8" динамик "хай-энд" у них 120$ стоит) и покрывается рояльным лаком в 10 слоев за тысячу, пиарится в глянцевых журналах и продается уже за десять тысяч. Так делать куда проще, нежели разрабатывать динамики специально под ограниченную серию колонок, как японцы в конце 70-х баловались.
spending big monies on these are speakers??? I rather get a dsp,
a multichannel amp and some entry level speakers instead.. have fun creating yr own endless musical realm instead.
you probably justify them as good sounding speakers because they look expensive and sell expensive!!!
Precise. Hi definition. But constipated like a british. No soul. No emotion. Stingy. Very expensive.
TheRockerxx69 I agree. When I heard the 800 D3, I was certainly amazed by its holographic imaging and soundstage. However, to my ears they lacked power, presence, and bass. Very disappointing for a $30,000 US pair of speakers.
Bad company and bad product
800d3 the best in the world)))
the best 800d3 Painted broken in the factory
The wary bad company
B&w 800d3
The best acoustic in the world))))))
Broken painted in the factory
No support
No warranty
Bad company
Coming sun in RUclips