A few things: I stopped and started a lot in this video because it kept punching me in the face and I wanted to talk. The riots of 1913 at the premiere of the Rite of Spring are hearsay and not a true story. No one threw up at them, I was wrong.
I wonder where that rumor started from. Fatalis is a Dragon that Ends civilizations on a Whim, everything and everyone fears him, even other Elder Dragons. And no one knows when one is born, This Dragon is quite scary. Its a creature that when it appears in the world needs to be killed for all life on it.
@MarcoMeatball to mirror what @Krivaan mentioned a little bit, you should also take a listen to the version of Proof of a Hero that plays at the end of this fight once you get Fatalis's health low enough.
Such an amazing song, and as someone who actually fought the monster in the game, listening to the symphony again always invokes such emotions, sometimes it even makes me wanna tear
Monster Hunter got some of the most fantastic soundtracks in gaming, we got bangers like Safi'Jiiva's theme, Shara Ishvalda's theme, Nakarkos' Theme, the greatest video game song AKA Valstrax's theme and many more bangers out there
The rules are simple: 1. If the boss music has an orchestra in it, then you are going to have a bad time. 2. If the boss music has an orchestra with a lady singing in latin, you are screwed. 3. If the boss music has an orchestra with a lady chanting THE BOSS NAME in latin, you are beyond screwed.
I don't know if this is right but i can hear "oh deus audenti, Oh deus vendictus" in the theme with the male vocals shouting "fatalis" in the background.
4 and this is a bonus. If the orchestra with a lady, speaking in latin and chanting the bosses name. While sounding like their in fear for their lives... *YOU'RE FUCKED*
Fatalis is always fought at a place called “Castle Schrade” which is the capital of an ancient civilization that was completely wiped out in a single night thousands of years beforehand by an “unknown cause…”
Although it's not outright stated it is heavily implied through tiny pieces of lore that it was White Fatalis that destroyed the ancient civilization and almost made humanity go to extinct
@@monolith_hard8505 Iirc, in the game it's said that the name Fatalis isn't actually the name of the dragon, but the name of the event that ended Schrade. Since Fatalis is said to be the one who caused that event according to legend, the name was kind of attached to it ever since.
Fun fact: The twisted version of the hunters theme within the song when you mentioned that it sounded like Fatalis is going berserk could be a nod to one of the primary and most brutal methods that Fatalis kills Hunters. Keep in mind that Fatalis is the only monster that *specifically enjoys killing hunters. it is sentient in that it enjoys causing despair and suffering* . The Fatalis is known to grab hunters and pin them to its chest which glows (as such in its berserk state) with such intensity that the heat *literally melts hunters and their armor to its scales* . It quite literally has the essences of late hunters permanently welded, twisted, and amalgamated onto itself.
Dont forget per fatalis's armor in older games, Fatalis Cannot be fully killed and supposively can revive from one scale and us using his materials in weapons and armor meens he is slowly taking over our body and will eventualy become a new fatalis.
Yeah the "black dragon" gear made from chipping off bits of the legendary giant sword of the Pokke Village ancestor is clearly made from Fatalis parts, yet the blade is said by its caretaker to regenerate after you remove pieces of it. And I was thinking that Fatalis might be "evil" because it is such an old species with human levels of intelligence but no interest in bothering to communicate with us. Maybe because they're old enough as a species to remember one of the ancient empires that went too far and had to be razed by dragons, leading to some of the seemingly odd or overly cautious policies of the Guild due to founders of the Guild being old wyverians who witnessed the fall. And perhaps as a species that lives an extremely long time, the Fatalis don't distinguish between new humans/wyverians and the ancients...? Making their evil ways more of a general distrust of humanity having learned its lesson.
@@clvammy Regular Fatalis armor makes the hunter see nightmarish visions and he cannot remove said armor only way is by ending his or her own life, but if it's white fatalis armor then you are fucked if you wear it you will become the new white fatalis.
Fatalis is THE monster. While most monsters in the game are essentially wild animals, Fatalis is perhaps the only one that can be considered evil. According to the lore, the armor you make from it whispers sinister things to you when you wear it. It's even implied that wearing its armor can take over your body and mind, transforming your character into a new Fatalis. This score drives home what a terrifying, destructive and corrupting presence Fatalis is.
Iceborne also makes a subtle detail in that, given how the armor works you can get an idea of how strong he is. First you can always use any skill in it's strongest form, second you're always topped off in life and stamina meaning you're always ready to battle, third all of his innate skills are battle oriented to represent the huge aggression and last the fact that it has the most slots of any armor means you can always be as strong as you need to be, all of this represent it's Monster like no other set does in the game and it's amazing for it.
Let's not forget he melts the armour of hunters he has slain to himself to make his hide even stronger. They gave us a massive nod to this with his pin attack, where he tries to do exactly that.
There are a few other intelegent monsters. Mostly the other two black dragons are said to have low human levels of intellect. But alatreon just wants to be left alone. And dire just wants to eat
The best part in the Fatalis battle is when we are almost killing him and the Proof of a Hero starts playing, overtaking the Fatalis Theme, and you can feel your adrenaline pumping as the song play, is just perfect
That is by far my favorite phase in the fight!! It truly gives you the hope of that you're so close to ending the final fight - the final stand. All of the pain of getting to that part is seemingly forgotten as you're pushing to get the job done, because this is it, it's now or never.
I've never thought about it until now but Proof of a hero is OUR theme, that's when the hunt turns into us being the boss and the monster fighting to survive us This realisation has made me love Proof of a hero even more
Yes, the Fatalis fight in Monster Hunter (specifically Iceborne) is relentless, there's little to no time to do anything, it is 30 full minutes of you on your A game, any less than that and he WILL kill you. Fatalis in lore is described as a walking catastrophe, it is speculated he razed an entire civilization in a single night, and you have to essentially fight him on your own. I love how the chorus is essentiallly crying in fear.
In my own mind, after hearing the theme a lot since I lost a lot (I main insect glaive, so it's kind of reasonable), I've always interpreted the theme as the souls of Castle Schrade crying out their terror from when It arrived and silenced them. Always meant to be a reminder, and make you afraid to take it on alone, only for Proof Of A Hero to take over near the end, to give hope that you can avenge the losses of the masses in those ruins. And considering you can conquer Safi, who is equal (in lore) to Fatalis, I imagine it as "If you can overcome the Devil (Safi), you can overcome the God (Fatalis)."
Seeing that a lot people already explained the Fatalis lore, I wanna bring up his visual design. On the surface Fatalis has a very simple design when compared to other monsters in the series. He looks like a typical european western dragon with not a lot of special elements. The thing that mostly sticks out are his proportions - he has a very long neck, small front legs and quite a huge head. And while looking at him normally he might not strike as jawdropping, I think his looks may represent a lot of things: - Since Fatalis is known as enemy to humanity itself, I heard somewhere that his long neck and high position of the head is there to mean the domination over humans. He almost always in his cutscenes looks down on everything while standing up, he is a dominant species, the scariest black dragon of them all. It's even more apparent in White Fatalis cutscene where he additionaly stands on top of a giant tower, making him even more imposing. - To western audience he may look quite "normal" but in Japan I think his looks are quite "exotic" and it's propably the most special and maybe even extreme representation of european myth dragons. An evil lizard entity taking over a castle/kingdom setting everything on fire and killing everything in it's sight. This is basically Fatalis but the scale of the destruction is set to a way higher level and instead of crazy sources of power, Fatalis uses just the fire and nothing more and it comes just from him and only his inside, no powder, no outside source and it gives off that pure energy of just an evil being that is friend to no one and needs no one. It's a myth of human eating dragon taken to the highest level and you can feel the respect Capcom gives to that style of myth. Eastern dragons usually are peaceful creatures, you can even see this with Teo and Kushala being peaceful untill you attack them. Fatalis does not fall into this behavior at all and he is a contrast to all creatures in MH basically. - Also as a personal note, though I can't use any source or confirmation on this, long snake like neck and twisted horns give off almost a connection to the visual of the devil as a snake in the Bible. It does not help that he seems to almost smile and licks his lips before fight as if he enjoyed the violence he is about to commit. Fatalis is a perfect example of power of simplicity. Because he doesnt seem to work like a normal animal, his intentions seem to be purely evil and he is not on the side of any ecosystem, and his power does not benefit anyone... he is almost like an invader, an evil spirit. And he represents that ancient type of evil the best. He is is "the Dragon" of Monster Hunter.
@@En_The_S1LLY Yeah a lot of Elder Dragons are actually not interested in killing you, there are a few exeptions of course like Lunastra but they are agressive by their nature, not hatered for humanity. This is also why I think so many huge creatures that are not Black Dragons are agressive - they are so big that the safety of way smaller creatures don't really bother them. They like humans change the ecosystem itself by even simply moving around. Fatalis on the other hand is quite small, scares everything away, not just humans but also animals and seems to have no need for normal food. He stays in one place for thousand of years and doesnt even bother to hunt or live like a normal animal. And he is noted to hate humans in lore so there is that. He also lacks explanation for the disasters he is causing, usually the final bosses end up as final bosses due to their sudden appearance and feeding habits. Xeno and Safi feed of energy and seem to be alien in origin, Shar Ishvald might as well be just a creature that by mistake left it's underground environment and creates underground shaking to move or just sucks in prey like Antlion larva, Gaismagorn is also feeding on energy and needs to surface to feed... there always seems to be some explanation of some sort, only Fatalis seems to have no Connection to feeding off of things, no real need to attack specific places and yet he only stays at old kingdoms, castles and places of ancient human activity, propably related heavy hunting activity (the tower where White Fatalis appears was made of Kushala Daora skin according to MH Dos) and just... exists.He feels super uncanny and weird in his actions.
@@christophersmith9074 True, but it was certainly intentional, as they would not make specific behaviours by mistake. I think it was an amazing idea, it showed character of a lot of monsters. They scrapped it sadly with Rise and with no tools to hide, you can't see most of the detailed behaviour of the monsters. The calmness of some species and mantles that allowed to hide in world allowed to watch these creatures like animals. I hope it will return in later games, I love the oldschool "right to the fight" style but there are so many MH games that already do that, I want to walk around Espinas and watch him catch frogs :D
I had honestly expected this to happen again in Rise but Capcom went back to aggression upon sight for all monsters. I felt it really added to the atmosphere of not everything wants you dead as soon as you enter the vicinity. I hope they bring this back in the next one.
10:27 This is Fatalis’ second phase theme and starts after you’ve hurt him enough. At this point, you’ve shown Fatalis that you’re not going to be brushed aside by him. It’s a fight, and he’s going to have to actually work for it.
Fatalis is one of the OSTs that actively incorporates a choir. Choirs are usually used only for Elder Dragons, specifically Black Dragons, and other extremely powerful monsters, to accentuate their otherworldliness and cement the fact that what you're facing is more than a mere mindless beast.
White Fatalis is a monster that has a very interesting theme on its own. Fatalis itself sounds destructive and intense, then Crimson Fatalis is a threatening evil. But White Fatalis is something different altogether and its theme relfects that. I've heard it described like this: "When fighting Fatalis/Crimson Fatalis, it feels like you're fighting the end of the world. When you fight _White_ Fatalis, however, it feels like you're fighting the beginning of a new one..."
16:33 THEY DID. In the official monster hunter orchestra the past two years they’ve had it and it sounds INCREDIBLE. That ending part after the phase 2 theme actually came from the irl concert, I believe, mixed in to the medley
Fatalis is unique in design cause in a vaccuum he just looks like a generic dragon, but he's unique as a final boss in monster hunter because they go so far in trying to describe the anatomy, ecology, and natural aspects of all of the other monsters to convince you that these are real living creatures that are just trying to survive and not inherently evil or benevolent. So Fatalis is a complete 180 from all the previous monsters because there's no explanation for its power or malevolence or reason for its aggression.
Fatalis has a very... serious design (?) It's a dragon, like, the thing itself. (Fatalis is not colorful, doesn't have a exotic fun visual) It's just like how an animal loses it's entire magic and fantasy when it's actually trying to kill you in the middle of the wilderness. That's Fatalis to me... isn't fun no more, isn't magic no more, it's desperation and fear.
@@unlimited971 not to mention the fact that most monsters are designed to feel like they're part of a massive biosphere, all part of and products of nature and then Fatalis is just this anomaly
@@rokkraljkolesa9317 nothing on earth really resembles a "dragon". Even other elders have some sort of animalistic thing in them. Teostra is a lion. Chameleos is a chameleon. But Fatalis is just... a dragon. It's unnatural, it simply shouldn't exist. That's what is scary about it. Fatalis. just. shouldn't. exist.
You’re completely right that fatalis is pure evil. It’s almost like natures final stand. Fatalis is considered a threat to all around it, and even elder dragons fear it and run from it. There’s also legends that those who wear armor made from fatalis, that they eventually go missing. This gives us the hint that fatalis’ armor is still alive and literally consumes them, taking over their bodies. Fatalis is also known as one of the three “black dragons,” meaning it’s one of the 3 most evil and powerful monsters that Capcom didn’t even use it in marketing until it’s debut in iceborne. Very glad they made its theme so powerful in iceborne, but also very glad that in the final moments of the final boss of monster hunter they play “proof of a hero,” which makes it feel like you can take on anything!
“Like it shoots a giant fire ball” You were correct when this happens fatalis is in the air shooting fire breath through almost the entire arena literally melting the walls of some parts giving you more space to fight in when he comes back down
Some fun background about Fatalis. Fatalis was the secret final boss of the original Monster Hunter game. These secret monsters, called the "Black Dragons" of which there are only 5, were never shown in any promotional material or referenced officially. They were legends spread between the mouth of players and on forums. During the 15th anniversary of the series, Capcom finally broke the silence on the Monsters and created a short clip of a new rendered Fatalis which got a lot of fans really excited about seeing it in Iceborne, which at the time wasn't planned at all. After seeing the fan reaction, they started developing Fatalis as the final content update for the Iceborne expansion and made one of the best fights in series imo. This was a labor of love from the devs to the fans. Great video as always! (and as others are saying Proof of a Hero is one of my favorite video game themes so please give it a listen at your earliest convenience!)
There's six Black Dragons Fatalis, _The_ Black Dragon Crimson Fatalis White Fatalis the 'Jiivas (they count even though Xeno'Jiiva is deep-sea-jellyfish colored and Safi'Jiiva is red) Alatreon and Dire Miralis
Great analysis! The melody you noticed at around 5:00 (time in this video) was actually from the very first Monster Hunter game. It was the theme of kokoto village, which the hunter (player) lives in. And Fatalis was also introduced as the ultimate end game boss in the same game. My personal interpretation of the melody here is that it also resembles the hunter, just like you mentioned about the trumpet fanfare right after it.
this is seriously so impressive, both on the composition of the theme and this guys skill to be able to really put himself there in a fight with this violent vengeful dragon while I'm assuming knowing actually next to nothing about monster hunter I'm kind of blown away how accurately he nails it
You mentioned to have it put in a music hall, but not to call it MHW Fatalis theme. Each monster theme has an official name that's not tied to the monster's name. The case being here that Fatalis's theme is officially called "The Legend Descends". And it is perfectly fitting to every event transpiring in this song. The song itself is more than just a theme, but a story. And throughout the song you can catch glimpses of previous game entries within it. There is the main theme of the hunters "Proof Of A Hero", the themes to both Pokke and Kotoko villages, the main title theme for iceborne, and some of the main theme for the base game to world. Another fun note is that the score for this is completely new for Fatalis and resembles nothing of the original theme from previous entries in the series. Each Fatalis (black, crimson, and white) all had their own themes and each was very similar to one another with various score changes. This version of Fatalis is 100% new and different to the old themes. I want to go out on a limb for this reason and say it's because this game was a complete overhaul with new dynamics, mechanics, gameplay, and one of the best rosters in the series. And that this, being the final fight of the game, gives a shout out to the 15 years of hard work the development team and the players have put into the series. Fatalis was also an unplanned entry for the game. Safi'Jiiva was supposed to be the final boss, but upon popular demand Fatalis and Alatreon were both added. Mostly due to the 15th anniversary promo in which Fatalis and Alatreon both received a high resolution rendering for. And all of this, the dedication and service put into this game, led to this amazing fight and equally amazing score.
One part that a lot of people either miss or just dont talk about is that the entirety of fatalisses part in its theme is essentially just a remix of MH1s first map called forest and hills, later on referred to as Rathalos: Roar!. The entire Leitmotif of Fatalis is based on it and phase 1 basically just follows it 1 to 1 with a few detours. its really cool and took me way to long to notice
I see you haven't analyzed the last part of the fatalis medley, "proof of a hero", which is the main theme of the monster hunter franchise. Can we expect a full video dedicated to it?
@@MarcoMeatball ruclips.net/video/YTtJhniVaYA/видео.html here is one with every track, you find the part I was talking about at the last timestamp. Basically, when you're fighting fatalis you get access to a big weapon called dragonator during the final stages of the battle. It's in that moment that proof of a hero starts playing, when Fatalis is almost defeated but you have to do the last swings in order to take down it. Truly a grandiose and epic moment that I'll remember
What makes Fatalis so interesting in the world of Monster Hunter is that it's just a dragon. In a world or creatures designed to have some sort of realisim or interesting design, the greatest threat is the most generic looking dragon in the series. The other thing that makes Fatalis stand out is what it is. In Monster Hunter the monsters aren't evil, they're animals trying to survive, and animals can't be evil. Except for Fatalis. It's not clear why they did it, some say that the ancient civilisation slaughtered so many dragons to build their cities and weapons, but Fatalis appeared and destroyed and entire kingdom in one night. And even after thousands of years have passed, Fatalis still hates humanity. It doesn't hunt to survive, it hunts to kill. Elder dragons, essentially living nukes, run in terror when Fatalis stirs. The two themes are called "The Legend Descends" and "Limitless Courage", and they really capture the feeling from the names alone. They say it in game, this isn't just a monster but history itself. Hell, their theme is a remix of the original generic battle theme! It was the final boss of the first game, and I love how it's maintained the aura of a true monster.
They made a generic looking dragon a unique final boss in monster hunter. While other dragons you’ve faced were far more unique like Namielle Or Rajang
You know, it might be worth digging deeper into it. Cause I watched the In a Land before Times Movies for a very long time, and theres one Part of Deviljhos Theme what sounds a lot like one of these Tracks. Maybe they had the same inspiration?
I second this. Deviljho's theme sounds like an act ripped right out of the piece, in all it's terrifying glory. The violent demon, the world eater, devours all its wake, and the music makes it all too apparent. Doubly so in the case of Savage Deviljho That said, I HIGHLY recommend the original version/ the one from 4U over the version from World. It captures the raw essence of the piece much closer to that of the Rite of Spring. The MHW version is just not as dynamic and is lacking in the OOMPH factor because of the composition changes.
@@jamarswope2341 No no, im sure it was a small Part of one of the IaLbT Tracks, I watched the Movies religiously. I have to look it up, I guess... ruclips.net/video/oZUzvInQd-Q/видео.html The similar Track starts at about 3:00. And even more on 6:28.
The comparison to Rite of Spring is super awesome. I had never even heard of that piece personally, I think more comparisons like this in the future would be super cool when they come up!
Safi’Jiva also has and very good theme, Kulve Tarroth is great, Shara Ishvalda is exotic and vibrant, Valstrax is heroic like no other, and while it may not be up the alley western music like this magnamalo is immensely sisnister. Personally my favorite is a three part theme for Gore magala, Chaotic Gore Magala, and Shagaru Magala that I would very much recommend. Monster hunter is probably between my favorite and or 2nd favorite game to souls games and both have the greatest music and I love them to death.
brooooo BROOOOO when you finish the first part of the caravan quests after beating shagaru and they play that cutscene with everyone going home, AND THE MUSIC IS THE SAME TUNE AS THE SHAGARU THEME bro I get teary-eyed whenever I here both
Fatalis being the ultimate final update boss of World was such an unforgettable experience for me as my first MH game and just gaming in general. Throughout your countless hunts of insane dragons, you finally fight Fatalis who's just a straight classical European based dragon that breaths fire. No gimmicks other than being one of the hardest fights in the game, something you have to fight tooth and nail with to the very last minute (they made it even harder by cutting down the hunting time to 15 minutes instead of the usual 50). If you manage to get to the last phase of the battle, Fatalis' theme stops and Proof of A Hero plays and its one of the most epic things ever! Another interesting thing about Fatalis as well is that it's noted as the only elder dragon who truly hates humans in comparison to the other monsters you fight which are just doing what animals do, and having that thought while fighting him really adds the weight and fear to it. I kinda wish we would have gameplay footage to go along with it because monster hunter fights are truly something else. Awesome analysis as always!
30 minutes not 15. 15 would be ridiculous as even if you had the full 50 minutes he'd still be the toughest fight in the game (save for the gimmicky BS behemoth).
It's not just that he hates you, it's that he hates everything. Fatalis is the one creature in all of Monster Hunter that isn't a species of animal, but a true individual. Fatalis is destruction itself, death incarnate, the end of all things. And whoever does manager to defeat him is simply cursed to eventually become him in the future... because you can't kill death or destroy destruction.
@@superslash7254 I personally wouldn’t say he hates. He’s like the doomslayer. A force of nature. It’s also willing to relent and die a noble death when facing against powerful and capable hunters. Like in the older monster hunter games. When you faced off a fatalis. You can actually drive it off and fight it again in a more weakened state.
It's amazing to watch you break it down. After countless hours fighting Fatalis i get teary eyed just listing to his music. Once you're at the last 5% of his health the theme "Proof of Hero" starts playing i would love to listen to you react to it right after listening to the Fatalis theme
5:35 The reason that trumpet melody was there is because it's a part of the Kokoto Village theme, Kokoto Village is the hub of the first Monster Hunter Game, and Fatalis is the secret final boss of that game, so it makes sense to have it in this theme
Fatalis is essentially the end of a Monster Hunter game. Always the same arena (Castle Schrade) despite how none of the Monster Hunter games are set in the same area. And the lore explanation is that, whoever kills Fatalis and wears their scales as armour (which is what you do to any monster in Monster Hunter) becomes him. The second part of the song (not included in the video you reacted to here), is when you take the upper hand in the fight. It's when the main theme of the game starts playing, in full orchestral glory. Because there is a greater monster than Fatalis there. You, the hunter, the player. It's your own theme. I'm a sucker for when games give the players those kinds of moments. Final Fantasy XIV does it too, whether it's the main theme of an expansion, Prelude or Maker's Ruin, every big moment has a leitmotif borrowing from those moments. It just makes those final moments of the games hit so much harder. Also fun fact: that main theme from Monster Hunter World was played at the opening ceremony of the Tokyo Olympics in 2020, among several other video game songs.
As someone who loves monster hunter to death (World being my favourite game of all time) and just started playing Final Fantasy XIV heavensward, I’m super excited for the moments you mentioned. A realm reborn’s primals themes already blew me away and everyone says that it only gets better. I can’t wait to experience it!
Interesting that there is _rumor_ that the armor turns the wearer into Fatalis, but no proof. It is implied that the Guild confiscates Fatalis gear shortly after it is made, and it's locked in a vault somewhere deep beneath Dundorama.
@@Verbose_Mode Fatalis are known for their regenerative abilities. Even after long being dead they regenerate and can return to life again. This is what I think happens the armor begins to "regenerate" back into a fatalis while you are wearing it, and if you wear it too long it fuses to you making YOU part of it. The main thing that hints toward this is the giant fatalis weapon in pokke which regenerates daily and can *and probably HAS to* be mined every day to keep the danger at bay
It's not Latin, it's a fantasy language from the game called Wyverian... you can play the entire games with Wyverian set as your audio playback. My favorite Wyverian song is the second half of Ceadeus: ruclips.net/video/MFYYhtBpX_0/видео.html This is a poem from the games for Fatalis that can kinda give you an idea of what they're probably singing about. The Legend of the Black Dragon When the world is full of wyverns The legend is revived Meat is eaten, Bone is crunched. And blood is sucked up dry He burns the earth And melts through iron He boils the rivers And mows down trees He awakens the winds And lights an inferno He is called Fatalis Wyvern of destiny He is called Fatalis Wyvern of destruction Call for help Run for your lives And don't forget to Pray to the skies He is called Fatalis Wyvern of destiny He is called Fatalis Wyvern of destruction Fatalis, Fatalis Heaven and Earth are yours Fatalis, Fatalis Heaven and Earth are yours
Legends say Fatalis wiped out the whole ancient civilization that they talk about in Monster Hunter. That ancient civilization could fight Elder Dragons like it was just another Tuesday, but Fatalis showed up and unleashed genocide on them all. He's literal the closest to a god the monster hunter world has, he is in a sense, the equalizer of nature. The whole point of Monster Hunter is to be "One with Life." You don't hunt for fun, you hunt to keep the balance and protect the world. Fatalis shows up when you go too far in one direction. Of course, defeating him is also a test of sorts. I've always seen it as proving that the future is in good hands, and doesn't need a winged destroyer to keep the balance. YOU will keep the balance now.
I'm pretty sure it was White Fatalis that destroyed the old civilization and almost brought humanity to extinction black Fatalis was the one who has made castle Schrade his personal playground
@@geraldthegoose1685 I think it's more like "A" fatalis destroyed Schrade overnight and now that fatalis is old enough to become white fatalis, while a descendant of his is the new fatalis that we fight in IB.
@@geraldthegoose1685 Since Sapphire Star of the 5th Fleet (player) is the first ever person to hunt a Fatalis, then canonically, that hasn’t happened yet.
@@DarthDookieMan wdym since Fatalis never gotten slayed that means the old civilization is still gone idk what your trying to say since Fatalis is supposed to be a reminder of how the old civilization destroyed the ecosystem
@@DarthDookieMan i don't get what your saying? A fatalis whiped out the ancient civilization waaaaay before the shrade attack, then the actual attack happened which destroyed the empire, and last fatalis returns (if it's the same fatalis of the assault). I think you're mixing events man lol
It's been almost a year since I killed my last Fatalis in world and I STILL get chills, his fight is so much fun yet every move he does is just terrifying. But then you start winning, you get torwards the finishing blows, the last dragonator shot, as you desperately try to kill him before he melts you into a puddle..... and then.... Proof of a Hero starts playing.... GOD I LOVE THESE GAMESSSSS SOOO MUCHH
The transition at 11:30 represents to me the dire and defiant last stand of the hunters (and humanity at large) against Fatalis. Even if the hunters fall, Fatalis could never erase or burn away the spirit and bravery of their actions that day; the wounds they inflicted. We replace the fear from the earlier movement with a indignant and almost foolhardy bravery. Borrowing from Predator: "If it bleeds, we can kill it." Edit: You literally said the same thing right after I wrote this xD
It is hard to surpass Fatalis' Iceborne theme in terms of epicness, the stakes are so high both from the music and from the fight itself. Truely the Dancing Mad of Monster Hunter ^^
I think you’re absolutely right when you say this is a character theme. That’s what makes Monster Hunter music so great and why we who play the games resonate with the monsters so much. They’re characters. We’re happy to see them, we know them, we understand they’re personalities and traits. They’re old friends. And to see Fatalis again as he was in World. What a fucking marvel. He was never terribly difficult and lost a lot of the impact he was supposed to have in the older games, but in World. That opening bit of music where the percussion comes thundering in and the chorus sounds like it’s screaming, it’s the beginning of this titanic terrifying battle that pushed us further than anything before it. It took by friends and I three days to kill Fatalis, and we were ecstatic when we finally did. This music is such a big part of that feeling. The dread, the hopelessness, the glimmer of hope, that turning tide towards victory, and finally when you kill him you feel like you can finally breathe. It’s so good dude, it’s so fuckin good
That final section from 11 minutes in the is basically a reprise of the main theme for World. Monster Hunter always does this for its big bosses. It sort of feels like a challenge for the player, saying "here we are, now we're playing your theme, EARN IT!" Because at that point, the boss is going to start doing its deadliest attacks and its hardest to dodge patterns and it's time to play the best damn Monster Hunter of your life.
The fact that Fatalis’s themes are twisted versions of themes we have had from the original game and world shows how evil it is. Phase 1 is the Forest & Hills/Rathalos theme from MH1. And the thing I love about Fatalis is you can kill it yes… but it’s like a Lich it can come back to life. A single scale of Fatalis left alone long enough can regrow into a Fatalis a example of this is a massive Fatalis Greatsword in one of the games that was discovered that keeps growing and with permission you can collect Fatalis parts from it. To truly kill a Fatalis one must destroy everything it is.
What is scary is since it can regenerate if you wear its armor long it enough it can take control and drive you crazy so by that every single fatalis thats been fought was once a main player hunter..
Wow this was a journey for sure, I loved MHW and Fatalis, but I never thought there was so much to it’s song, it really is a literal representation of that battle, and seeing you describe it without having played it yourself, left me speechless LOL Thanks once again for the amazing work
The first phase to me is overwhelming fear, pure terror, chaos and panic. The second phase is still pure evil, but we can hear familiar motifs representing the hunter. It's terrifying, but more methodic. There is a kind of exchange between the hunter and fatalis, a duel. You've survived long enough to get a grasp of how to beat this monster (it is absurdly difficult). The music synergizes so well with what the player, the hunter feels and how they progress and learn throughout the fight. It's incredibly well done and feels awesome. There is also a third song not included in the video you watched. It plays in the very final stretch, after you've hit him with a devastating attack. The music is cheering for you, telling you that after hours and hours of trying to beat this monster, you're almost there. It's the final stretch and you can do this. It is possibly the most invigorating and awesome feeling I've had playing a video game and the euphoria you feel as you see the monster fall is indescribable. This is my favourite boss fight ever.
What's even more insane about this is that the vast majority of players won't ever hear it. God, I love the songs from Monster Hunter. Every piece gives me chills.
I LOVE how they managed to weave that occasional breath of hope into this track: Fatalis might be the greatest foe the player has ever had to face, and it is one hell of a final boss, but your hunter has overcome so many mosters that seemed invincible before, so it seems like this might just be possible. Only for the drop when the sea of fire comes down, pure terror as you scramble to safety. The hope is gone. You managed to live through the first phase, but you could not have fathomed this dragon's true might.
For all the crap we give the Handler for all the stuff leading up to Iceborne's endgame, she still drops the single best line in all of World/Iceborne during this fight. "This thing is a reality, Partner. But that just means... I know you can kill it." You are literally staring down a beast known as the God Of All Monsters, a creature of such malevolence that even another Black Dragon fled to the New World in fear of its return, a spectre of the darkest days of human and wyverian history returned in pure fiery wrath... but it's real. Flesh, bone, scale, all of it real. All of it mortal. All of it kill-able.
I love fatalis' lore. Fatalis is the embodiment of punishment. An ancient civilization created abominable weapons, crimes against nature, and fatalis is the cleansing fire that was their end. Fatalis have a metal shell on their underbelly, which is created from the armor of fallen hunters. After they're killed fatalis crushes them beneath it and gets so hot only the molten metal is left, which adheres to its scales. It takes the armor of its victims for itself much like hunters do. Fatalis is unique among monsters in that is is truly evil. Its actions are not out of self defense or pride, it kills and destroys because it wants to. It has a burning hatred for humanity. And not only that, its very presence corrupts everything around it. The sky darkens, all other life flees, only desolation remains. Gear made from fatalis scales is said to be cursed. The wearer doomed to succumb to dark whispering and eventfully transform into a new fatalis.
He’s not the one who wiped out the ancient civilization. Ancient humans and ancient dragons pretty much wiped each other out. Their descendants are modern hunters and modern elder dragons respectively. Fatalis isn’t a descendant, he’s a REMNANT of the ancient dragons that warred in the past. He’s bitter because all his kin were killed off.
I have fought Fatalis in Iceborne so many times and I can say with utter and absolute confidence that everything you said about the monster snd the fight were VERY spot on. I was pleasantly surprised to hear it from your perspective and how well it matches the actual hunt. Also, I have NEVER heard that ending!! I don't think it's in the game! Hearing the full work is amazing. Final note, after hearing it again, The Rite Of Spring reminds me VERY MUCH of Deviljho's theme, which is also in Monster Hunter World. I'd give it a listen if you already haven't 👌
Thank you! Really love your insight to this magnificent piece of art. Fatalis' schtick is that he's the big bad, not a boss with henchmen but just a absolute evil that must be stop and his theme just conveys that beautifully. The comparison with past works like Rite of Spring is a eye-opener. If you could, please listen to the original version of Monster Hunter's "Proof of a Hero" as it plays at the near end of the Fatalis fight and pretty much the polar opposite of Fatalis' theme. I would also recommend Valstrax or Safi Jiiva's themes. Valstrax is farthest to what you'd call to a dragon while Safi Jiiva embodies that very concept. Thank you again for listening and praising the song as it is essentially a love letter for the fans that played the game from the very beginning of the series.
Fatalis is the strongest monster known to the hunters guild. He is so devastatingly powerful that he is among 3 dragons who have no info on record because the guild deemed just knowing about it would cause mass hysteria. In this group called the Black Dragons he is known simply as THE Black Dragon. In the past he was implied to have destroyed an entire kingdom in just one night. He actively hates all hunters and will kill on sight, his favorite way of doing so being melting then into his scales to wear them as armor just like they wear other monsters. He makes everything else in the canon look like a puppy
What an epic journey this game truly is, thought they peaked with Safi'Jiiva as a major threat to the New World but topped that off with Fatalis. Can't wait for the next World like game, the new one right now just doesn't feel the same.
The version played in the actual fight is actually cut by Proof of a Hero after the hunter uses the Dragonator... that part almost always gets a tear at me.
If you played the older games, it definitely hits hard. Because it takes you way back (in my case) when PSP was the thing and Freedom Unite was THE Monster Hunter Game.
Fatalis is such a cool character. From his design and music to the sick twisted shit he does to human. I love it. To make the most powerful monster lore wise a classic western black dragon in a franchise full of wacky and alien monster designs is both brilliant and terrifying. His theme is also full of references to other themes in the franchise too. And in monster hunter, at least before rise, if a monster had vocals in their theme you in for something truly special.
You know the music is pumping you up even without you playing the actual game when you nearly drop the F bomb xD Loved the reaction and interjections o7
One of my favorite things about Fatalis, specifically in MH World, there's a reccuring theme of hierarchy and evolutionary purpose for every monster, like how Nergigante (another monster) was born as nature's way of dealing with Elder Dragons, Fatalis is nature's answer to humanity.
To me 2:27 feels like it’s trying to give you hope, cus you’re supposed to be the hero but then it just comes back into that intense part crushing any hope you had left
I’ve been waiting for this reaction! The second phase of the song is my absolute favorite. Thank you for reacting to it! Hopefully you’ll take a look at Malzeno’s theme from Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak one day Edit: 16:31 Funnily enough, the outro of the song is actually from the Monster Hunter anniversary orchestra concert, and yes i do wish to see this piece being performed in a non-monhun concert just to see others’ reactions
The reason you always feel in a state of vulnerability is because if you didn't prepare for weeks in the guideing lands before that hunt unlike most monsters before it will be very hard to not be 1 shot.
Your insights about this theme are really valuable. Congrats for this analysis and I really hope to see more content about Symphonic songs composed with the purpose of enrich a videogame experience. I think that in videogames like this we can find a lot of interesting music applications and appreciate how it fits within a character or a context. Simply wonderful, keep the good job!
I loved this look at Fatalis, if I could i'd recommend Crimson Glow Valstrax theme too. Monster hunter is full of so many incredible compositions but this one really hits different for me
In the world of Monster Hunter, monsters fight for: - Supremacy - Territory - Food - Self Defense & Survival Fatalis does none of that. Fatalis purposefully targets and annihilates human targets, because it DESPISES humanity. It's not rage, it's not a sense of duty, he has a focused, honed hatred towards humanity. There's deep lore for why that is but to... paint a picture; In some Monster Hunter lore and text.. Fatalis is seen melting down the corpses and bodies of those who try to hunt it to make armor. The same way people do. It is THAT kind of guy.
@@Oceb I worded that wrongly. Fatalis doesn’t purposely melt hunters onto Its body to mock hunters, it does that rather by accident which is why it rips you off ingame, however some are less fortunate and just burn on its chest. It also uses its burning chest to catch prey and let it simmer. But again, it doesn’t purposefully do so to “mock hunters”.
@@gojigiante It feels like you’re basing this solely off the World rendition rather than the monster itself throughout the series. I want to say I’m 100% positive that it does what it does spitefully and hatefully given the information the community managed to source over the years but if you have proof otherwise I wanna check it out.
@@StormRiderEvo My proof is the Iceborne Artbook which contains multiple different pieces of lore (such as the fact that Fatalis could possibly come from another dimension, or the fact that Furious is on par with Nergi in strength), and while I can possibly believe Fatalis may be spiteful towards humanity, he doesn’t actually do the many things the myths say. For example, There is a legend saying Fatalis can split a continent in two with his tail which obviously isn’t true, it’s the same thing with the melting armor thing. Plus, the world rendition is the most recent and truthful Fatalis there is. In fact the others couldn’t even melt you onto them, they could barely do anything at all, if anything World’s Fatalis is a much better rendition of everything Fatty is supposed to be. But I can definitely agree, there is an extremely mysterious and un-explainable aura around Fatalis, I just don’t think he’s as intelligent as people make him out to be or as spiteful/hateful. In fact, the ending of IB challenges that whole idea of Fatty being “nature’s force against humans” or The Whole “im the strongest”, suggesting there to be something far worse then Fatalis, but who knows maybe we’ll never find out what that could be. But mainly, the community makes things up with tidbits of lore. For example, the equal dragon weapon was made up due to some early art of what looked to be a dragon hybrid and further developed into an entire war, keep in mind NONE of this was confirmed by the devs. Fatalis has never been recorded to do anything spiteful, it’s just assumed because he’s the so called “god of monsters”. Besides vague item and equipment desc (Alatreon’s says he can shred time and space, so tbh that proves to take it with a grain of salt), Fatalis is pretty much just an extremely strong and rare elder dragon that fates the end of the world.
In the game's lore, there existed an Ancient Civilization that was said to be so technically advanced that was well on it's way of completely conquering all of nature, to the point thaat they used a Frankenstein Monster esque patchworks of monster bits to fight their wars. According to said lore, they were the highest humanity has ever reached. Fatalis erased it off the face of the earth in a span of a single night when they pissed it off.
I've gone through your reactions at work today, and I love them all! Fatalis is such a beast both in the lore, and in the actual hunt itself. The opening chorus gives me chills, and gets my adrenaline going every single time. The necessity of this fight, the pressure of everything that's on the line if you fail, all wrapped up in a cascade of fire and steel. It is a TRIP, and I'm glad to see the emotions you go through as if you're there fighting with us.
You’re right when you say Fatalis is not just an ordinary monster. He is one of the most powerful monsters in lore, rumored to have wiped out a kingdom (sometimes even an entire civilization) in a single night. Over countless years, the story of Fatalis and what he did to Castle Schrade became a legend, and he became the bogeyman parents tell their children about in the MH world. So it’s a big freaking deal to the characters when he shows up again in Iceborne. Although you can fight him in previous games, Iceborne is the first canon Fatalis fight. I remember when Fatalis was revealed to be coming to Iceborne, I was like “It’s Fatalis!” Then seconds later, “Crap, it’s Fatalis.” After hearing about him and his lore for so long, I was terrified of the idea of fighting him. I also had a similar reaction when fellow black dragon Alatreon was revealed for Iceborne.
Oh! I just stumbled into your video by chance. I like your breakdown, it's informative! I believe the bits you heard at 4:52 isn't Rachmaninoff's but Kokoto Village Theme (the first generation of Monster Hunter, where Fatalis first appeared) with the speed increased? Because most returning monsters in MH World have their soundtrack modified to include the main theme/village theme of their respective generation, like Alatreon's with gen 3 Theme, Zinogre's with gen 3 portable/Yukumo Village Theme, Nargacuga with gen 2 portable/Freedom Unite/Pokke Village Theme, etc. But I get what you mean, it's kinda similar. perhaps Kokoto Village Theme was inferred from Rachmaninoff's but made peaceful?
It's important for you to know that this monster can melt a 1\2 meter thick solid steel barrier from 100 meters away. 5 times in a row I love that you did work on a MHW track, top 3 of my favorite games ever
If you are looking for more monster hunter themes to check out I highly recommend Raging Brachidios from monster hunter world. Its super intense theme with so much going on, its one of my favorites
Gotta add this, in monster hunter tou use monster parts to make armor and weapons, fatalis saw this and ecided that was a good idea, so it takes the corpses of hunters it kills and melts them onto its own hide. Also its eyes are supposedly more like jewels than eyes further emphasizing how fatalis really cant be considered a natural being
Monster Hunter World's Fatalis theme is really, really good. But it'll never beat out White Fatalis's theme from Generations for me. That one was just on another level.
I find it deeply touching how much this song has moved you. The Fatalis theme really is the meeting of modern music and antiquity. Someone with your experience, expertise and background must have had an absolute EXPERIENCE with these pieces. I can tell you from my experience, fighting Fatalis in the game feels like what you heard haha. Cheers and here's hoping you give some more Monster Hunter themes a look in the future!
Wow. First time ive heared The Rite of Spring and I think the monster hunter equivalent would actually be closer to Deviljho's theme from this franchise, it sounds very similar enough to have to be an homage.
One of the most interesting parts of this song to me is that it's actually another version of the Forest & Hills theme, the first battle theme ever heard in a Monster Hunter game. The game begins as it ends.
Since you mentioned the Rite of Spring, I suggest you looking into Drakengard 1's OST. It has a lot of similar vibes to that piece, and many direct (but heavily distorted and "messed up") classical music inspirations. That game has a very...unique theme
One of the best video game music I've ever listened to. As you progress through the phases, your theme "Proof Of The Hero" starts to blend in with Fatalis' theme, signifying that you are overcoming his might, the last phase when the original Proof Of The Hero plays is when the game tells you that victory is near at your hand. Not only you are battling him, but Fatalis and the Hunter's respective songs are clashing too, what a phenomenal soundtrack.
Holy holy crap man, what a fantastic React, I love how you stop and break it down with how you interpret it in a visual characteristic way, I was literally vibing with you exactly as you felt it, what an absolute rush of adrenaline! (I came here after reaching and having attempted fatalis, still haven't won yet) And I never NEVER appreciated the music 1000% until hearing it seperately, this is an absolute work of art. THANK you absolutely awesome react vid man, gonna really really zone into the music now and turn on survival mode!
Fatalis is likely the most dangerous monster in all of Monster Hunter. Not only is it incredibly powerful, but it actively attacks humans. Other monsters may attack you because you threaten them, but Fatalis will attack you because it wants to eradicate humanity. Fatalis burnt down an advanced civilisation in a single night and it's presence alone scares off most living creatures. The word Fatalis was originally used to describe the phenomenon of this mass destruction, but over time it became synonymous with the monster itself.
What I’ve always loved about this theme is it’s elements of push and pull with different themes. The Hunter’s theme bursts in, Fatalis theme retorts, the two compete for a sound, and it continues. It’s very reminiscent of how every blow you strike may set Fatalis back, but he’s always going to hit back harder. The chorus swells, swells, swells, and now they’re singing YOUR song! YOU are the hero! Now you have the upper hand. Musical excellence, love the vid, love this track!
The cool thing about fatalis is that he is the only monster that's a (medieval) dragon where most monsters are wyverns, snakes, etc and he's one of the strongest in the series
I see everyone talk about fatalis in lore but I would also like to mention just how amazing the actual fight is in game. In my opinion its one of the best boss fights in video game history. Fatalis has the perfect amount of difficulty where only actual gods will first try him but failing doesn’t feel bad because you know it was your fault and not a bs mechanic and you will never beat him without an actual build and proper items. The shorter quest time (30 minutes instead of the usual 50) also means you really have to try hard to best him and use all your resources and all the siege weapons. Lastly the fight is just such a spectacle and made in such a way when you progress through the phases and Fatalis powers up you yourself feel even more motivated to bring him down not to mention towards the very end of the fight when its at its most tense moment you use the dragonator (basically 2 massive spikes) to knock him down and proof of a hero begins to play which is the hunters theme basically saying you are in control now. I love this fight and highly recommend watching some of it if you haven’t already.
I'm SO happy that you did Fatalis's theme, I always thought that you'd like it the moment I found your channel! I *definitely* suggest you try Safi'Jiiva's medley next, it's another absolutely brilliant piece from Iceborne that also incorporates a lot of similar vocals.
As I'm midway through the game, it's my first time hearing Fatalis theme here from your video, and I love everything about the excerpt at 2:15; from the 7/4 time signature to the exchange among the brass instruments, the semi quavers from the trumpets accompanied by the (floor) toms, the strings that create the tension and build up to 2:27, and that fortissimo, syncopated(?) triplet timpani rhythm. Love your breakdown of this piece
Now, imagine spending a whole year playing this game untill the day you fight Fatalis and hear this song for the first time. As far as i know you never played Monster Hunter and don't have too much connection to the game, but burst into joy and excitement listening to the song anyways. When i first heard this song while fighting Fatalis i started crying with excitement and happiness. There is much more in this song, it has a lot o references to other songs in the game, it feels like a tribute to your journey hunting all these monsters. It was by far the best moment i ever had in a video game my whole life.
10:24 when you mentioned "Berserk mode" and "fight for survival", it actually reflects on the games. This is the 3rd phase of the fight where Fatalis starts to do mores damage if you failed to break it's head. It's attacks can one shot you at this phase, literally a fight for survival.
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A few things:
I stopped and started a lot in this video because it kept punching me in the face and I wanted to talk.
The riots of 1913 at the premiere of the Rite of Spring are hearsay and not a true story. No one threw up at them, I was wrong.
I wonder where that rumor started from.
Fatalis is a Dragon that Ends civilizations on a Whim, everything and everyone fears him, even other Elder Dragons.
And no one knows when one is born, This Dragon is quite scary. Its a creature that when it appears in the world needs to be killed for all life on it.
If you liked this song you should certainly listen to the monster hunter frontier Crimson fatalis theme It is spectacular
@MarcoMeatball to mirror what @Krivaan mentioned a little bit, you should also take a listen to the version of Proof of a Hero that plays at the end of this fight once you get Fatalis's health low enough.
Such an amazing song, and as someone who actually fought the monster in the game, listening to the symphony again always invokes such emotions, sometimes it even makes me wanna tear
Monster Hunter got some of the most fantastic soundtracks in gaming, we got bangers like Safi'Jiiva's theme, Shara Ishvalda's theme, Nakarkos' Theme, the greatest video game song AKA Valstrax's theme and many more bangers out there
The rules are simple:
1. If the boss music has an orchestra in it, then you are going to have a bad time.
2. If the boss music has an orchestra with a lady singing in latin, you are screwed.
3. If the boss music has an orchestra with a lady chanting THE BOSS NAME in latin, you are beyond screwed.
The most underated comment I have seen in a while.
I don't know if this is right but i can hear "oh deus audenti, Oh deus vendictus" in the theme with the male vocals shouting "fatalis" in the background.
4 and this is a bonus. If the orchestra with a lady, speaking in latin and chanting the bosses name. While sounding like their in fear for their lives... *YOU'RE FUCKED*
You know that he isn't called Fatalis in japan right? He's called Miraboreas. So no, no one's chanting "fatalis" in the song.
@@leonides1527 5 and also a bonus.
If you hear 'hot fish' bring some salsa.
Fatalis is always fought at a place called “Castle Schrade” which is the capital of an ancient civilization that was completely wiped out in a single night thousands of years beforehand by an “unknown cause…”
Although it's not outright stated it is heavily implied through tiny pieces of lore that it was White Fatalis that destroyed the ancient civilization and almost made humanity go to extinct
by that "unkown cause" in just one night...
I always thought the implication was that it was the fatalis itself, so it's left ambiguous?
@@monolith_hard8505 Iirc, in the game it's said that the name Fatalis isn't actually the name of the dragon, but the name of the event that ended Schrade. Since Fatalis is said to be the one who caused that event according to legend, the name was kind of attached to it ever since.
@@onilink134 oooh wow that's interesting, neat!
Fun fact: The twisted version of the hunters theme within the song when you mentioned that it sounded like Fatalis is going berserk could be a nod to one of the primary and most brutal methods that Fatalis kills Hunters. Keep in mind that Fatalis is the only monster that *specifically enjoys killing hunters. it is sentient in that it enjoys causing despair and suffering* . The Fatalis is known to grab hunters and pin them to its chest which glows (as such in its berserk state) with such intensity that the heat *literally melts hunters and their armor to its scales* . It quite literally has the essences of late hunters permanently welded, twisted, and amalgamated onto itself.
Dont forget per fatalis's armor in older games, Fatalis Cannot be fully killed and supposively can revive from one scale and us using his materials in weapons and armor meens he is slowly taking over our body and will eventualy become a new fatalis.
Yeah the "black dragon" gear made from chipping off bits of the legendary giant sword of the Pokke Village ancestor is clearly made from Fatalis parts, yet the blade is said by its caretaker to regenerate after you remove pieces of it.
And I was thinking that Fatalis might be "evil" because it is such an old species with human levels of intelligence but no interest in bothering to communicate with us. Maybe because they're old enough as a species to remember one of the ancient empires that went too far and had to be razed by dragons, leading to some of the seemingly odd or overly cautious policies of the Guild due to founders of the Guild being old wyverians who witnessed the fall. And perhaps as a species that lives an extremely long time, the Fatalis don't distinguish between new humans/wyverians and the ancients...? Making their evil ways more of a general distrust of humanity having learned its lesson.
Mmm soup
@@clvammy switches armor*
@@clvammy Regular Fatalis armor makes the hunter see nightmarish visions and he cannot remove said armor only way is by ending his or her own life, but if it's white fatalis armor then you are fucked if you wear it you will become the new white fatalis.
I like how he is basiclly describing exactly what the battle is like in game while only listening to Fatalis's theme
🙏🙏🙏
Hes actually really talented
Fatalis is THE monster. While most monsters in the game are essentially wild animals, Fatalis is perhaps the only one that can be considered evil. According to the lore, the armor you make from it whispers sinister things to you when you wear it. It's even implied that wearing its armor can take over your body and mind, transforming your character into a new Fatalis. This score drives home what a terrifying, destructive and corrupting presence Fatalis is.
Iceborne also makes a subtle detail in that, given how the armor works you can get an idea of how strong he is. First you can always use any skill in it's strongest form, second you're always topped off in life and stamina meaning you're always ready to battle, third all of his innate skills are battle oriented to represent the huge aggression and last the fact that it has the most slots of any armor means you can always be as strong as you need to be, all of this represent it's Monster like no other set does in the game and it's amazing for it.
Let's not forget he melts the armour of hunters he has slain to himself to make his hide even stronger. They gave us a massive nod to this with his pin attack, where he tries to do exactly that.
Bro if fatalis decided he could litteraly erase every single thing in his way
There are a few other intelegent monsters.
Mostly the other two black dragons are said to have low human levels of intellect.
But alatreon just wants to be left alone.
And dire just wants to eat
Wasn't Fatalis just sick of the old civilization for killing ungodly amounts of elder dragons?
The best part in the Fatalis battle is when we are almost killing him and the Proof of a Hero starts playing, overtaking the Fatalis Theme, and you can feel your adrenaline pumping as the song play, is just perfect
Nothing better than killing Fatalis under 10 minutes without dragonator
I like that, for this fight, they first segue into a dark reprise of Stars on Our Backs, the main theme for World, before going into Proof of a Hero.
YESSS ill never forget the immense hype i would feel eveytime i heard it
That is by far my favorite phase in the fight!! It truly gives you the hope of that you're so close to ending the final fight - the final stand. All of the pain of getting to that part is seemingly forgotten as you're pushing to get the job done, because this is it, it's now or never.
I've never thought about it until now but Proof of a hero is OUR theme, that's when the hunt turns into us being the boss and the monster fighting to survive us
This realisation has made me love Proof of a hero even more
Yes, the Fatalis fight in Monster Hunter (specifically Iceborne) is relentless, there's little to no time to do anything, it is 30 full minutes of you on your A game, any less than that and he WILL kill you. Fatalis in lore is described as a walking catastrophe, it is speculated he razed an entire civilization in a single night, and you have to essentially fight him on your own. I love how the chorus is essentiallly crying in fear.
In my own mind, after hearing the theme a lot since I lost a lot (I main insect glaive, so it's kind of reasonable), I've always interpreted the theme as the souls of Castle Schrade crying out their terror from when It arrived and silenced them. Always meant to be a reminder, and make you afraid to take it on alone, only for Proof Of A Hero to take over near the end, to give hope that you can avenge the losses of the masses in those ruins. And considering you can conquer Safi, who is equal (in lore) to Fatalis, I imagine it as "If you can overcome the Devil (Safi), you can overcome the God (Fatalis)."
And the feeling of beating him solo and being able to do it consistently is amazing
@@noivern1735 I took it more like Safi being a God of Creation and Life, as opposed to the demonic God of Destruction and Death that is Fatalis.
Me missing the fucking balista shot :'l
Seeing that a lot people already explained the Fatalis lore, I wanna bring up his visual design.
On the surface Fatalis has a very simple design when compared to other monsters in the series. He looks like a typical european western dragon with not a lot of special elements. The thing that mostly sticks out are his proportions - he has a very long neck, small front legs and quite a huge head. And while looking at him normally he might not strike as jawdropping, I think his looks may represent a lot of things:
- Since Fatalis is known as enemy to humanity itself, I heard somewhere that his long neck and high position of the head is there to mean the domination over humans. He almost always in his cutscenes looks down on everything while standing up, he is a dominant species, the scariest black dragon of them all. It's even more apparent in White Fatalis cutscene where he additionaly stands on top of a giant tower, making him even more imposing.
- To western audience he may look quite "normal" but in Japan I think his looks are quite "exotic" and it's propably the most special and maybe even extreme representation of european myth dragons. An evil lizard entity taking over a castle/kingdom setting everything on fire and killing everything in it's sight. This is basically Fatalis but the scale of the destruction is set to a way higher level and instead of crazy sources of power, Fatalis uses just the fire and nothing more and it comes just from him and only his inside, no powder, no outside source and it gives off that pure energy of just an evil being that is friend to no one and needs no one. It's a myth of human eating dragon taken to the highest level and you can feel the respect Capcom gives to that style of myth. Eastern dragons usually are peaceful creatures, you can even see this with Teo and Kushala being peaceful untill you attack them. Fatalis does not fall into this behavior at all and he is a contrast to all creatures in MH basically.
- Also as a personal note, though I can't use any source or confirmation on this, long snake like neck and twisted horns give off almost a connection to the visual of the devil as a snake in the Bible. It does not help that he seems to almost smile and licks his lips before fight as if he enjoyed the violence he is about to commit.
Fatalis is a perfect example of power of simplicity. Because he doesnt seem to work like a normal animal, his intentions seem to be purely evil and he is not on the side of any ecosystem, and his power does not benefit anyone... he is almost like an invader, an evil spirit. And he represents that ancient type of evil the best. He is is "the Dragon" of Monster Hunter.
Namilelle and Velkhana too, I accidentally found out Velkhana was peaceful
@@En_The_S1LLY Yeah a lot of Elder Dragons are actually not interested in killing you, there are a few exeptions of course like Lunastra but they are agressive by their nature, not hatered for humanity. This is also why I think so many huge creatures that are not Black Dragons are agressive - they are so big that the safety of way smaller creatures don't really bother them. They like humans change the ecosystem itself by even simply moving around.
Fatalis on the other hand is quite small, scares everything away, not just humans but also animals and seems to have no need for normal food. He stays in one place for thousand of years and doesnt even bother to hunt or live like a normal animal. And he is noted to hate humans in lore so there is that. He also lacks explanation for the disasters he is causing, usually the final bosses end up as final bosses due to their sudden appearance and feeding habits.
Xeno and Safi feed of energy and seem to be alien in origin, Shar Ishvald might as well be just a creature that by mistake left it's underground environment and creates underground shaking to move or just sucks in prey like Antlion larva, Gaismagorn is also feeding on energy and needs to surface to feed... there always seems to be some explanation of some sort, only Fatalis seems to have no Connection to feeding off of things, no real need to attack specific places and yet he only stays at old kingdoms, castles and places of ancient human activity, propably related heavy hunting activity (the tower where White Fatalis appears was made of Kushala Daora skin according to MH Dos) and just... exists.He feels super uncanny and weird in his actions.
the peaceful ness of the elders is only in world/iceborn as all monsters attack on sight in the older generations
@@christophersmith9074 True, but it was certainly intentional, as they would not make specific behaviours by mistake. I think it was an amazing idea, it showed character of a lot of monsters. They scrapped it sadly with Rise and with no tools to hide, you can't see most of the detailed behaviour of the monsters. The calmness of some species and mantles that allowed to hide in world allowed to watch these creatures like animals. I hope it will return in later games, I love the oldschool "right to the fight" style but there are so many MH games that already do that, I want to walk around Espinas and watch him catch frogs :D
I had honestly expected this to happen again in Rise but Capcom went back to aggression upon sight for all monsters. I felt it really added to the atmosphere of not everything wants you dead as soon as you enter the vicinity. I hope they bring this back in the next one.
10:27 This is Fatalis’ second phase theme and starts after you’ve hurt him enough. At this point, you’ve shown Fatalis that you’re not going to be brushed aside by him. It’s a fight, and he’s going to have to actually work for it.
Fatalis is one of the OSTs that actively incorporates a choir.
Choirs are usually used only for Elder Dragons, specifically Black Dragons, and other extremely powerful monsters,
to accentuate their otherworldliness and cement the fact that what you're facing is more than a mere mindless beast.
Cooool
@@MarcoMeatball I highly recommend you give a listen to the Safi'Jiiva theme next.
Absolutely gorgeous one as well.
White Fatalis is a monster that has a very interesting theme on its own. Fatalis itself sounds destructive and intense, then Crimson Fatalis is a threatening evil. But White Fatalis is something different altogether and its theme relfects that. I've heard it described like this: "When fighting Fatalis/Crimson Fatalis, it feels like you're fighting the end of the world. When you fight _White_ Fatalis, however, it feels like you're fighting the beginning of a new one..."
White fatalis is one of the best themes MH has ever put put period! Its so.. beautiful but dangerous at the same time. One of my favorites for sure.
@MarcoMeatball please do White Fatalis themes
I never heard that quote, and now White Fatalis makes me even *more* scared (outside the possibility of being outright "ERASED")
16:33 THEY DID. In the official monster hunter orchestra the past two years they’ve had it and it sounds INCREDIBLE. That ending part after the phase 2 theme actually came from the irl concert, I believe, mixed in to the medley
Fatalis is unique in design cause in a vaccuum he just looks like a generic dragon, but he's unique as a final boss in monster hunter because they go so far in trying to describe the anatomy, ecology, and natural aspects of all of the other monsters to convince you that these are real living creatures that are just trying to survive and not inherently evil or benevolent. So Fatalis is a complete 180 from all the previous monsters because there's no explanation for its power or malevolence or reason for its aggression.
The 180 is also in its design. After bunch of fancish design you have what looks like a sime black dragon. Hence the terror begins...
The rule in monster hunter is the more you look like a classic dragon the more powerful you are.
Fatalis has a very... serious design (?)
It's a dragon, like, the thing itself.
(Fatalis is not colorful, doesn't have a exotic fun visual)
It's just like how an animal loses it's entire magic and fantasy when it's actually trying to kill you in the middle of the wilderness.
That's Fatalis to me... isn't fun no more, isn't magic no more, it's desperation and fear.
@@unlimited971 not to mention the fact that most monsters are designed to feel like they're part of a massive biosphere, all part of and products of nature
and then Fatalis is just this anomaly
@@rokkraljkolesa9317 nothing on earth really resembles a "dragon". Even other elders have some sort of animalistic thing in them. Teostra is a lion. Chameleos is a chameleon. But Fatalis is just... a dragon. It's unnatural, it simply shouldn't exist. That's what is scary about it. Fatalis. just. shouldn't. exist.
You’re completely right that fatalis is pure evil. It’s almost like natures final stand. Fatalis is considered a threat to all around it, and even elder dragons fear it and run from it. There’s also legends that those who wear armor made from fatalis, that they eventually go missing. This gives us the hint that fatalis’ armor is still alive and literally consumes them, taking over their bodies. Fatalis is also known as one of the three “black dragons,” meaning it’s one of the 3 most evil and powerful monsters that Capcom didn’t even use it in marketing until it’s debut in iceborne. Very glad they made its theme so powerful in iceborne, but also very glad that in the final moments of the final boss of monster hunter they play “proof of a hero,” which makes it feel like you can take on anything!
I also heard that one of the legends about him is that he uses fallen hunters as "armor" as a way of mimicing the hunters
@@seccogabrielq thats not a legend,it was confirmed in item descriptions like the fatalis cortex
The only monster describe as evil in monster hunter franchise
@@Reklov.66 Fatalis also melts you unto its chest in the pin animation. Literally melting you alive
@@Reklov.66 and in-game,Fatalis in iceborne has a giant metal plate on its chest,its easier to see if you look at the model really closely
“Like it shoots a giant fire ball”
You were correct when this happens fatalis is in the air shooting fire breath through almost the entire arena literally melting the walls of some parts giving you more space to fight in when he comes back down
Also Reaction to the end was amazing
Some fun background about Fatalis. Fatalis was the secret final boss of the original Monster Hunter game. These secret monsters, called the "Black Dragons" of which there are only 5, were never shown in any promotional material or referenced officially. They were legends spread between the mouth of players and on forums. During the 15th anniversary of the series, Capcom finally broke the silence on the Monsters and created a short clip of a new rendered Fatalis which got a lot of fans really excited about seeing it in Iceborne, which at the time wasn't planned at all. After seeing the fan reaction, they started developing Fatalis as the final content update for the Iceborne expansion and made one of the best fights in series imo. This was a labor of love from the devs to the fans.
Great video as always!
(and as others are saying Proof of a Hero is one of my favorite video game themes so please give it a listen at your earliest convenience!)
There's six Black Dragons
Fatalis, _The_ Black Dragon
Crimson Fatalis
White Fatalis
the 'Jiivas (they count even though Xeno'Jiiva is deep-sea-jellyfish colored and Safi'Jiiva is red)
Alatreon
and Dire Miralis
Great analysis! The melody you noticed at around 5:00 (time in this video) was actually from the very first Monster Hunter game. It was the theme of kokoto village, which the hunter (player) lives in. And Fatalis was also introduced as the ultimate end game boss in the same game. My personal interpretation of the melody here is that it also resembles the hunter, just like you mentioned about the trumpet fanfare right after it.
MHW’s monster themes do this a lot. Nargacuga’s theme referenced Pokke, Kushala’s theme referenced the MH2 theme, Brachydios referenced Tanzia, etc.
Almost like a 'dark hunter' consumed by the scales and armor of fatalis in mh1
How he just identifies the whole meaning behind the Fatalis by just listening to its soundtrack. Amazing.
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this is seriously so impressive, both on the composition of the theme and this guys skill to be able to really put himself there in a fight with this violent vengeful dragon while I'm assuming knowing actually next to nothing about monster hunter I'm kind of blown away how accurately he nails it
the shows both how well he knows music and how well music tells a story
You mentioned to have it put in a music hall, but not to call it MHW Fatalis theme.
Each monster theme has an official name that's not tied to the monster's name.
The case being here that Fatalis's theme is officially called "The Legend Descends". And it is perfectly fitting to every event transpiring in this song.
The song itself is more than just a theme, but a story. And throughout the song you can catch glimpses of previous game entries within it.
There is the main theme of the hunters "Proof Of A Hero", the themes to both Pokke and Kotoko villages, the main title theme for iceborne, and some of the main theme for the base game to world.
Another fun note is that the score for this is completely new for Fatalis and resembles nothing of the original theme from previous entries in the series.
Each Fatalis (black, crimson, and white) all had their own themes and each was very similar to one another with various score changes. This version of Fatalis is 100% new and different to the old themes.
I want to go out on a limb for this reason and say it's because this game was a complete overhaul with new dynamics, mechanics, gameplay, and one of the best rosters in the series. And that this, being the final fight of the game, gives a shout out to the 15 years of hard work the development team and the players have put into the series.
Fatalis was also an unplanned entry for the game. Safi'Jiiva was supposed to be the final boss, but upon popular demand Fatalis and Alatreon were both added. Mostly due to the 15th anniversary promo in which Fatalis and Alatreon both received a high resolution rendering for.
And all of this, the dedication and service put into this game, led to this amazing fight and equally amazing score.
Awesome to read this
2nd theme also has a name, it's called "Limitless Courage"
One part that a lot of people either miss or just dont talk about is that the entirety of fatalisses part in its theme is essentially just a remix of MH1s first map called forest and hills, later on referred to as Rathalos: Roar!. The entire Leitmotif of Fatalis is based on it and phase 1 basically just follows it 1 to 1 with a few detours. its really cool and took me way to long to notice
I see you haven't analyzed the last part of the fatalis medley, "proof of a hero", which is the main theme of the monster hunter franchise. Can we expect a full video dedicated to it?
I thought this was the one featuring every segment 😆
@@MarcoMeatball ruclips.net/video/YTtJhniVaYA/видео.html here is one with every track, you find the part I was talking about at the last timestamp. Basically, when you're fighting fatalis you get access to a big weapon called dragonator during the final stages of the battle. It's in that moment that proof of a hero starts playing, when Fatalis is almost defeated but you have to do the last swings in order to take down it. Truly a grandiose and epic moment that I'll remember
@@amedeo1098 the last part is literal just the original proof of a hero from monster Hunter 1 it isn’t unique to this fight
@@tech-priesttoast2686 it’s not unique to the fight. But it’s part of the auditory experience of the fight
Actually it's not a regular proof of a hero is a remixed one just for Fatalis
What makes Fatalis so interesting in the world of Monster Hunter is that it's just a dragon. In a world or creatures designed to have some sort of realisim or interesting design, the greatest threat is the most generic looking dragon in the series. The other thing that makes Fatalis stand out is what it is. In Monster Hunter the monsters aren't evil, they're animals trying to survive, and animals can't be evil. Except for Fatalis. It's not clear why they did it, some say that the ancient civilisation slaughtered so many dragons to build their cities and weapons, but Fatalis appeared and destroyed and entire kingdom in one night. And even after thousands of years have passed, Fatalis still hates humanity. It doesn't hunt to survive, it hunts to kill. Elder dragons, essentially living nukes, run in terror when Fatalis stirs.
The two themes are called "The Legend Descends" and "Limitless Courage", and they really capture the feeling from the names alone. They say it in game, this isn't just a monster but history itself. Hell, their theme is a remix of the original generic battle theme! It was the final boss of the first game, and I love how it's maintained the aura of a true monster.
They made a generic looking dragon a unique final boss in monster hunter. While other dragons you’ve faced were far more unique like Namielle
Or Rajang
With you mentioning the Rite of Spring, I have to suggest the Deviljho theme. It has a very strong inspiration.
You know, it might be worth digging deeper into it. Cause I watched the In a Land before Times Movies for a very long time, and theres one Part of Deviljhos Theme what sounds a lot like one of these Tracks. Maybe they had the same inspiration?
Ill take a peek
I second this. Deviljho's theme sounds like an act ripped right out of the piece, in all it's terrifying glory. The violent demon, the world eater, devours all its wake, and the music makes it all too apparent. Doubly so in the case of Savage Deviljho
That said, I HIGHLY recommend the original version/ the one from 4U over the version from World. It captures the raw essence of the piece much closer to that of the Rite of Spring. The MHW version is just not as dynamic and is lacking in the OOMPH factor because of the composition changes.
@@Sunaki1000 I think you might be thinking of Disney’s Fantasia, which actually had a Rite of Spring section featuring a dinosaur animation!
@@jamarswope2341 No no, im sure it was a small Part of one of the IaLbT Tracks, I watched the Movies religiously.
I have to look it up, I guess...
ruclips.net/video/oZUzvInQd-Q/видео.html
The similar Track starts at about 3:00.
And even more on 6:28.
The comparison to Rite of Spring is super awesome. I had never even heard of that piece personally, I think more comparisons like this in the future would be super cool when they come up!
I do it when I can!
The Rite of Spring sounds a hell of a lot like Deviljho's Monster Hunter 3 theme. Even moreso than Fatalis
Safi’Jiva also has and very good theme, Kulve Tarroth is great, Shara Ishvalda is exotic and vibrant, Valstrax is heroic like no other, and while it may not be up the alley western music like this magnamalo is immensely sisnister. Personally my favorite is a three part theme for Gore magala, Chaotic Gore Magala, and Shagaru Magala that I would very much recommend.
Monster hunter is probably between my favorite and or 2nd favorite game to souls games and both have the greatest music and I love them to death.
Esquece de Brachydios Colérico é linda também
brooooo BROOOOO when you finish the first part of the caravan quests after beating shagaru and they play that cutscene with everyone going home, AND THE MUSIC IS THE SAME TUNE AS THE SHAGARU THEME bro I get teary-eyed whenever I here both
I LOVE sharas! It's so beautiful and themed! If he reviewed his I'd be in heaven!
Fatalis being the ultimate final update boss of World was such an unforgettable experience for me as my first MH game and just gaming in general. Throughout your countless hunts of insane dragons, you finally fight Fatalis who's just a straight classical European based dragon that breaths fire. No gimmicks other than being one of the hardest fights in the game, something you have to fight tooth and nail with to the very last minute (they made it even harder by cutting down the hunting time to 15 minutes instead of the usual 50). If you manage to get to the last phase of the battle, Fatalis' theme stops and Proof of A Hero plays and its one of the most epic things ever! Another interesting thing about Fatalis as well is that it's noted as the only elder dragon who truly hates humans in comparison to the other monsters you fight which are just doing what animals do, and having that thought while fighting him really adds the weight and fear to it. I kinda wish we would have gameplay footage to go along with it because monster hunter fights are truly something else.
Awesome analysis as always!
You mean from 50 minutes to 30 minutes?
30 minutes not 15. 15 would be ridiculous as even if you had the full 50 minutes he'd still be the toughest fight in the game (save for the gimmicky BS behemoth).
The general rule of MH... The closer it looks to a generic European Dragon, the stronger it is. XD
It's not just that he hates you, it's that he hates everything. Fatalis is the one creature in all of Monster Hunter that isn't a species of animal, but a true individual. Fatalis is destruction itself, death incarnate, the end of all things. And whoever does manager to defeat him is simply cursed to eventually become him in the future... because you can't kill death or destroy destruction.
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I personally wouldn’t say he hates. He’s like the doomslayer. A force of nature. It’s also willing to relent and die a noble death when facing against powerful and capable hunters.
Like in the older monster hunter games. When you faced off a fatalis. You can actually drive it off and fight it again in a more weakened state.
It's amazing to watch you break it down. After countless hours fighting Fatalis i get teary eyed just listing to his music.
Once you're at the last 5% of his health the theme "Proof of Hero" starts playing i would love to listen to you react to it right after listening to the Fatalis theme
5:35 The reason that trumpet melody was there is because it's a part of the Kokoto Village theme, Kokoto Village is the hub of the first Monster Hunter Game, and Fatalis is the secret final boss of that game, so it makes sense to have it in this theme
Fatalis is essentially the end of a Monster Hunter game. Always the same arena (Castle Schrade) despite how none of the Monster Hunter games are set in the same area. And the lore explanation is that, whoever kills Fatalis and wears their scales as armour (which is what you do to any monster in Monster Hunter) becomes him. The second part of the song (not included in the video you reacted to here), is when you take the upper hand in the fight. It's when the main theme of the game starts playing, in full orchestral glory. Because there is a greater monster than Fatalis there. You, the hunter, the player. It's your own theme. I'm a sucker for when games give the players those kinds of moments. Final Fantasy XIV does it too, whether it's the main theme of an expansion, Prelude or Maker's Ruin, every big moment has a leitmotif borrowing from those moments. It just makes those final moments of the games hit so much harder. Also fun fact: that main theme from Monster Hunter World was played at the opening ceremony of the Tokyo Olympics in 2020, among several other video game songs.
As someone who loves monster hunter to death (World being my favourite game of all time) and just started playing Final Fantasy XIV heavensward, I’m super excited for the moments you mentioned. A realm reborn’s primals themes already blew me away and everyone says that it only gets better. I can’t wait to experience it!
Ah crap. My palico turned into a Fatalis.
Interesting that there is _rumor_ that the armor turns the wearer into Fatalis, but no proof. It is implied that the Guild confiscates Fatalis gear shortly after it is made, and it's locked in a vault somewhere deep beneath Dundorama.
@@Verbose_Mode Fatalis are known for their regenerative abilities. Even after long being dead they regenerate and can return to life again. This is what I think happens the armor begins to "regenerate" back into a fatalis while you are wearing it, and if you wear it too long it fuses to you making YOU part of it. The main thing that hints toward this is the giant fatalis weapon in pokke which regenerates daily and can *and probably HAS to* be mined every day to keep the danger at bay
On second thought, that is propably the reason the armor gets confiscated
It's not Latin, it's a fantasy language from the game called Wyverian... you can play the entire games with Wyverian set as your audio playback. My favorite Wyverian song is the second half of Ceadeus: ruclips.net/video/MFYYhtBpX_0/видео.html
This is a poem from the games for Fatalis that can kinda give you an idea of what they're probably singing about.
The Legend of the Black Dragon
When the world is full of wyverns
The legend is revived
Meat is eaten, Bone is crunched.
And blood is sucked up dry
He burns the earth
And melts through iron
He boils the rivers
And mows down trees
He awakens the winds
And lights an inferno
He is called Fatalis
Wyvern of destiny
He is called Fatalis
Wyvern of destruction
Call for help
Run for your lives
And don't forget to
Pray to the skies
He is called Fatalis
Wyvern of destiny
He is called Fatalis
Wyvern of destruction
Fatalis, Fatalis
Heaven and Earth are yours
Fatalis, Fatalis
Heaven and Earth are yours
Legends say Fatalis wiped out the whole ancient civilization that they talk about in Monster Hunter. That ancient civilization could fight Elder Dragons like it was just another Tuesday, but Fatalis showed up and unleashed genocide on them all. He's literal the closest to a god the monster hunter world has, he is in a sense, the equalizer of nature. The whole point of Monster Hunter is to be "One with Life." You don't hunt for fun, you hunt to keep the balance and protect the world. Fatalis shows up when you go too far in one direction.
Of course, defeating him is also a test of sorts. I've always seen it as proving that the future is in good hands, and doesn't need a winged destroyer to keep the balance. YOU will keep the balance now.
I'm pretty sure it was White Fatalis that destroyed the old civilization and almost brought humanity to extinction black Fatalis was the one who has made castle Schrade his personal playground
@@geraldthegoose1685 I think it's more like "A" fatalis destroyed Schrade overnight and now that fatalis is old enough to become white fatalis, while a descendant of his is the new fatalis that we fight in IB.
@@geraldthegoose1685 Since Sapphire Star of the 5th Fleet (player) is the first ever person to hunt a Fatalis, then canonically, that hasn’t happened yet.
@@DarthDookieMan wdym since Fatalis never gotten slayed that means the old civilization is still gone idk what your trying to say since Fatalis is supposed to be a reminder of how the old civilization destroyed the ecosystem
@@DarthDookieMan i don't get what your saying?
A fatalis whiped out the ancient civilization waaaaay before the shrade attack, then the actual attack happened which destroyed the empire, and last fatalis returns (if it's the same fatalis of the assault).
I think you're mixing events man lol
monster hunter frontier's crimson fatalis's theme is another banger, even though it does not belong to the main series
Crimsonflame Fatalis, and White are no Joke eighter.
@@Sunaki1000 man i'd die to have marco react to shantien's theme (though it's a 4 phase battle so it'd get quite long)
@@セツノナナシ I would enjoy him covering Kulve. Maybe AT Velkhana.
@@セツノナナシ i really want a reaction to white fatalis man....
The bells in the white fatalis theme are so beautiful
It's been almost a year since I killed my last Fatalis in world and I STILL get chills, his fight is so much fun yet every move he does is just terrifying. But then you start winning, you get torwards the finishing blows, the last dragonator shot, as you desperately try to kill him before he melts you into a puddle..... and then.... Proof of a Hero starts playing.... GOD I LOVE THESE GAMESSSSS SOOO MUCHH
5:00 is actually the first village theme ever in monster hunter. Called kokoto village.
I was wondering if anyone mentioned this xD yea deff Kokoto. But that one song does sound similar as heck haha
9:32 "It's like he shoots this giant fireball or something."
Yeah... yeah you could say that, lmao. Funny how spot on that was!
The transition at 11:30 represents to me the dire and defiant last stand of the hunters (and humanity at large) against Fatalis. Even if the hunters fall, Fatalis could never erase or burn away the spirit and bravery of their actions that day; the wounds they inflicted. We replace the fear from the earlier movement with a indignant and almost foolhardy bravery.
Borrowing from Predator: "If it bleeds, we can kill it."
Edit: You literally said the same thing right after I wrote this xD
It is hard to surpass Fatalis' Iceborne theme in terms of epicness, the stakes are so high both from the music and from the fight itself.
Truely the Dancing Mad of Monster Hunter ^^
I think you’re absolutely right when you say this is a character theme. That’s what makes Monster Hunter music so great and why we who play the games resonate with the monsters so much. They’re characters. We’re happy to see them, we know them, we understand they’re personalities and traits. They’re old friends.
And to see Fatalis again as he was in World. What a fucking marvel. He was never terribly difficult and lost a lot of the impact he was supposed to have in the older games, but in World. That opening bit of music where the percussion comes thundering in and the chorus sounds like it’s screaming, it’s the beginning of this titanic terrifying battle that pushed us further than anything before it. It took by friends and I three days to kill Fatalis, and we were ecstatic when we finally did.
This music is such a big part of that feeling. The dread, the hopelessness, the glimmer of hope, that turning tide towards victory, and finally when you kill him you feel like you can finally breathe. It’s so good dude, it’s so fuckin good
That final section from 11 minutes in the is basically a reprise of the main theme for World. Monster Hunter always does this for its big bosses. It sort of feels like a challenge for the player, saying "here we are, now we're playing your theme, EARN IT!" Because at that point, the boss is going to start doing its deadliest attacks and its hardest to dodge patterns and it's time to play the best damn Monster Hunter of your life.
The fact that Fatalis’s themes are twisted versions of themes we have had from the original game and world shows how evil it is. Phase 1 is the Forest & Hills/Rathalos theme from MH1.
And the thing I love about Fatalis is you can kill it yes… but it’s like a Lich it can come back to life. A single scale of Fatalis left alone long enough can regrow into a Fatalis a example of this is a massive Fatalis Greatsword in one of the games that was discovered that keeps growing and with permission you can collect Fatalis parts from it. To truly kill a Fatalis one must destroy everything it is.
What is scary is since it can regenerate if you wear its armor long it enough it can take control and drive you crazy so by that every single fatalis thats been fought was once a main player hunter..
Wow this was a journey for sure, I loved MHW and Fatalis, but I never thought there was so much to it’s song, it really is a literal representation of that battle, and seeing you describe it without having played it yourself, left me speechless LOL
Thanks once again for the amazing work
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@@MarcoMeatball 🍷🗿
First it was composer, now a opera singer!! Let us hope more people do reactions on the whole album!
The first phase to me is overwhelming fear, pure terror, chaos and panic. The second phase is still pure evil, but we can hear familiar motifs representing the hunter. It's terrifying, but more methodic. There is a kind of exchange between the hunter and fatalis, a duel. You've survived long enough to get a grasp of how to beat this monster (it is absurdly difficult). The music synergizes so well with what the player, the hunter feels and how they progress and learn throughout the fight. It's incredibly well done and feels awesome.
There is also a third song not included in the video you watched. It plays in the very final stretch, after you've hit him with a devastating attack. The music is cheering for you, telling you that after hours and hours of trying to beat this monster, you're almost there. It's the final stretch and you can do this. It is possibly the most invigorating and awesome feeling I've had playing a video game and the euphoria you feel as you see the monster fall is indescribable. This is my favourite boss fight ever.
What's even more insane about this is that the vast majority of players won't ever hear it.
God, I love the songs from Monster Hunter. Every piece gives me chills.
I LOVE how they managed to weave that occasional breath of hope into this track: Fatalis might be the greatest foe the player has ever had to face, and it is one hell of a final boss, but your hunter has overcome so many mosters that seemed invincible before, so it seems like this might just be possible. Only for the drop when the sea of fire comes down, pure terror as you scramble to safety.
The hope is gone. You managed to live through the first phase, but you could not have fathomed this dragon's true might.
For all the crap we give the Handler for all the stuff leading up to Iceborne's endgame, she still drops the single best line in all of World/Iceborne during this fight.
"This thing is a reality, Partner. But that just means... I know you can kill it."
You are literally staring down a beast known as the God Of All Monsters, a creature of such malevolence that even another Black Dragon fled to the New World in fear of its return, a spectre of the darkest days of human and wyverian history returned in pure fiery wrath... but it's real. Flesh, bone, scale, all of it real. All of it mortal. All of it kill-able.
I love fatalis' lore. Fatalis is the embodiment of punishment. An ancient civilization created abominable weapons, crimes against nature, and fatalis is the cleansing fire that was their end. Fatalis have a metal shell on their underbelly, which is created from the armor of fallen hunters. After they're killed fatalis crushes them beneath it and gets so hot only the molten metal is left, which adheres to its scales. It takes the armor of its victims for itself much like hunters do.
Fatalis is unique among monsters in that is is truly evil. Its actions are not out of self defense or pride, it kills and destroys because it wants to. It has a burning hatred for humanity. And not only that, its very presence corrupts everything around it. The sky darkens, all other life flees, only desolation remains. Gear made from fatalis scales is said to be cursed. The wearer doomed to succumb to dark whispering and eventfully transform into a new fatalis.
He’s not the one who wiped out the ancient civilization. Ancient humans and ancient dragons pretty much wiped each other out. Their descendants are modern hunters and modern elder dragons respectively.
Fatalis isn’t a descendant, he’s a REMNANT of the ancient dragons that warred in the past. He’s bitter because all his kin were killed off.
I have fought Fatalis in Iceborne so many times and I can say with utter and absolute confidence that everything you said about the monster snd the fight were VERY spot on. I was pleasantly surprised to hear it from your perspective and how well it matches the actual hunt.
Also, I have NEVER heard that ending!! I don't think it's in the game! Hearing the full work is amazing.
Final note, after hearing it again, The Rite Of Spring reminds me VERY MUCH of Deviljho's theme, which is also in Monster Hunter World. I'd give it a listen if you already haven't 👌
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Video: the music is about a human sacrifice and the dance around it
Fatalis: precisely! See Hunter, he gets it.
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Thank you! Really love your insight to this magnificent piece of art. Fatalis' schtick is that he's the big bad, not a boss with henchmen but just a absolute evil that must be stop and his theme just conveys that beautifully. The comparison with past works like Rite of Spring is a eye-opener. If you could, please listen to the original version of Monster Hunter's "Proof of a Hero" as it plays at the near end of the Fatalis fight and pretty much the polar opposite of Fatalis' theme. I would also recommend Valstrax or Safi Jiiva's themes. Valstrax is farthest to what you'd call to a dragon while Safi Jiiva embodies that very concept. Thank you again for listening and praising the song as it is essentially a love letter for the fans that played the game from the very beginning of the series.
You should definitely look into the theme of Safi’jiiva too. They do some very interesting stuff with the phase changes
Fatalis is the strongest monster known to the hunters guild. He is so devastatingly powerful that he is among 3 dragons who have no info on record because the guild deemed just knowing about it would cause mass hysteria. In this group called the Black Dragons he is known simply as THE Black Dragon. In the past he was implied to have destroyed an entire kingdom in just one night. He actively hates all hunters and will kill on sight, his favorite way of doing so being melting then into his scales to wear them as armor just like they wear other monsters. He makes everything else in the canon look like a puppy
What an epic journey this game truly is, thought they peaked with Safi'Jiiva as a major threat to the New World but topped that off with Fatalis. Can't wait for the next World like game, the new one right now just doesn't feel the same.
The version played in the actual fight is actually cut by Proof of a Hero after the hunter uses the Dragonator... that part almost always gets a tear at me.
If you played the older games, it definitely hits hard. Because it takes you way back (in my case) when PSP was the thing and Freedom Unite was THE Monster Hunter Game.
@@karlsangalang1623 exactly. I've been plating since Freedom 2 and hearing the OG soundtrack made me so nostalgic.
Fatalis is such a cool character. From his design and music to the sick twisted shit he does to human. I love it. To make the most powerful monster lore wise a classic western black dragon in a franchise full of wacky and alien monster designs is both brilliant and terrifying. His theme is also full of references to other themes in the franchise too. And in monster hunter, at least before rise, if a monster had vocals in their theme you in for something truly special.
You know the music is pumping you up even without you playing the actual game when you nearly drop the F bomb xD
Loved the reaction and interjections o7
Thank you for noticing 😂😂😂
One of my favorite things about Fatalis, specifically in MH World, there's a reccuring theme of hierarchy and evolutionary purpose for every monster, like how Nergigante (another monster) was born as nature's way of dealing with Elder Dragons, Fatalis is nature's answer to humanity.
To me 2:27 feels like it’s trying to give you hope, cus you’re supposed to be the hero but then it just comes back into that intense part crushing any hope you had left
I’ve been waiting for this reaction! The second phase of the song is my absolute favorite. Thank you for reacting to it! Hopefully you’ll take a look at Malzeno’s theme from Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak one day
Edit: 16:31 Funnily enough, the outro of the song is actually from the Monster Hunter anniversary orchestra concert, and yes i do wish to see this piece being performed in a non-monhun concert just to see others’ reactions
The reason you always feel in a state of vulnerability is because if you didn't prepare for weeks in the guideing lands before that hunt unlike most monsters before it will be very hard to not be 1 shot.
Your insights about this theme are really valuable. Congrats for this analysis and I really hope to see more content about Symphonic songs composed with the purpose of enrich a videogame experience. I think that in videogames like this we can find a lot of interesting music applications and appreciate how it fits within a character or a context. Simply wonderful, keep the good job!
That’s the whole channel David! Thank you!
I loved this look at Fatalis, if I could i'd recommend Crimson Glow Valstrax theme too. Monster hunter is full of so many incredible compositions but this one really hits different for me
I love how you share your energy with songs. It’s like you become one with music.
In the world of Monster Hunter, monsters fight for:
- Supremacy
- Territory
- Food
- Self Defense & Survival
Fatalis does none of that. Fatalis purposefully targets and annihilates human targets, because it DESPISES humanity. It's not rage, it's not a sense of duty, he has a focused, honed hatred towards humanity. There's deep lore for why that is but to... paint a picture; In some Monster Hunter lore and text.. Fatalis is seen melting down the corpses and bodies of those who try to hunt it to make armor.
The same way people do.
It is THAT kind of guy.
Fatalis doesn’t actually melt humans onto itself, and I’m not so sure it despises humanity either.
@@gojigiante "Very rare Fatalis material. A truly fiendish carapace that sports the melted gear of its fallen foes." -Fatalis Pectus description
@@Oceb I worded that wrongly. Fatalis doesn’t purposely melt hunters onto Its body to mock hunters, it does that rather by accident which is why it rips you off ingame, however some are less fortunate and just burn on its chest. It also uses its burning chest to catch prey and let it simmer. But again, it doesn’t purposefully do so to “mock hunters”.
@@gojigiante It feels like you’re basing this solely off the World rendition rather than the monster itself throughout the series. I want to say I’m 100% positive that it does what it does spitefully and hatefully given the information the community managed to source over the years but if you have proof otherwise I wanna check it out.
@@StormRiderEvo My proof is the Iceborne Artbook which contains multiple different pieces of lore (such as the fact that Fatalis could possibly come from another dimension, or the fact that Furious is on par with Nergi in strength), and while I can possibly believe Fatalis may be spiteful towards humanity, he doesn’t actually do the many things the myths say. For example, There is a legend saying Fatalis can split a continent in two with his tail which obviously isn’t true, it’s the same thing with the melting armor thing.
Plus, the world rendition is the most recent and truthful Fatalis there is. In fact the others couldn’t even melt you onto them, they could barely do anything at all, if anything World’s Fatalis is a much better rendition of everything Fatty is supposed to be. But I can definitely agree, there is an extremely mysterious and un-explainable aura around Fatalis, I just don’t think he’s as intelligent as people make him out to be or as spiteful/hateful. In fact, the ending of IB challenges that whole idea of Fatty being “nature’s force against humans” or The Whole “im the strongest”, suggesting there to be something far worse then Fatalis, but who knows maybe we’ll never find out what that could be.
But mainly, the community makes things up with tidbits of lore. For example, the equal dragon weapon was made up due to some early art of what looked to be a dragon hybrid and further developed into an entire war, keep in mind NONE of this was confirmed by the devs. Fatalis has never been recorded to do anything spiteful, it’s just assumed because he’s the so called “god of monsters”. Besides vague item and equipment desc (Alatreon’s says he can shred time and space, so tbh that proves to take it with a grain of salt), Fatalis is pretty much just an extremely strong and rare elder dragon that fates the end of the world.
I love how you enjoyed the theme, living the moment, the sounds in melody to the limit of your body & space can do. It's very strange to see.
In the game's lore, there existed an Ancient Civilization that was said to be so technically advanced that was well on it's way of completely conquering all of nature, to the point thaat they used a Frankenstein Monster esque patchworks of monster bits to fight their wars. According to said lore, they were the highest humanity has ever reached.
Fatalis erased it off the face of the earth in a span of a single night when they pissed it off.
Wasn't that deconfirmed since it was only mentioned in a concept book and never expanded after that
@@alanvasquez6923 I'm pretty sure it was actually White Fatalis instead of Black Fatalis
@@geraldthegoose1685 what does that even have to do with it being deconfirmed
@Mushinronja like we didn't "fight" the equal dragon weapon in gu lmao sure dude. So ahtal ka built the whole mecha alone? You can't be serious
@@geraldthegoose1685 yeah probably we don't really know tho
I've gone through your reactions at work today, and I love them all! Fatalis is such a beast both in the lore, and in the actual hunt itself. The opening chorus gives me chills, and gets my adrenaline going every single time.
The necessity of this fight, the pressure of everything that's on the line if you fail, all wrapped up in a cascade of fire and steel. It is a TRIP, and I'm glad to see the emotions you go through as if you're there fighting with us.
0:58 that is not a sound of a heroic hunt, that, is the sound, of disaster approaching...
The one Side effect of listening to music is the music gets stuck in your head
You’re right when you say Fatalis is not just an ordinary monster. He is one of the most powerful monsters in lore, rumored to have wiped out a kingdom (sometimes even an entire civilization) in a single night.
Over countless years, the story of Fatalis and what he did to Castle Schrade became a legend, and he became the bogeyman parents tell their children about in the MH world. So it’s a big freaking deal to the characters when he shows up again in Iceborne. Although you can fight him in previous games, Iceborne is the first canon Fatalis fight.
I remember when Fatalis was revealed to be coming to Iceborne, I was like “It’s Fatalis!” Then seconds later, “Crap, it’s Fatalis.” After hearing about him and his lore for so long, I was terrified of the idea of fighting him.
I also had a similar reaction when fellow black dragon Alatreon was revealed for Iceborne.
Oh! I just stumbled into your video by chance. I like your breakdown, it's informative!
I believe the bits you heard at 4:52 isn't Rachmaninoff's but Kokoto Village Theme (the first generation of Monster Hunter, where Fatalis first appeared) with the speed increased? Because most returning monsters in MH World have their soundtrack modified to include the main theme/village theme of their respective generation, like Alatreon's with gen 3 Theme, Zinogre's with gen 3 portable/Yukumo Village Theme, Nargacuga with gen 2 portable/Freedom Unite/Pokke Village Theme, etc.
But I get what you mean, it's kinda similar. perhaps Kokoto Village Theme was inferred from Rachmaninoff's but made peaceful?
Hi!
It's important for you to know that this monster can melt a 1\2 meter thick solid steel barrier from 100 meters away. 5 times in a row
I love that you did work on a MHW track, top 3 of my favorite games ever
It's amazing how much of an accurate depiction one can make just from the tone and cadence of a song and the particularity of instrument usage.
If you are looking for more monster hunter themes to check out I highly recommend Raging Brachidios from monster hunter world. Its super intense theme with so much going on, its one of my favorites
Its coming!
Gotta add this, in monster hunter tou use monster parts to make armor and weapons, fatalis saw this and ecided that was a good idea, so it takes the corpses of hunters it kills and melts them onto its own hide. Also its eyes are supposedly more like jewels than eyes further emphasizing how fatalis really cant be considered a natural being
always getting goosebumbs from this
I like the little notes of proof of a hero scattered through as a countermelody like you can hear the hunter desperately fighting back
Monster Hunter World's Fatalis theme is really, really good. But it'll never beat out White Fatalis's theme from Generations for me. That one was just on another level.
I find it deeply touching how much this song has moved you. The Fatalis theme really is the meeting of modern music and antiquity. Someone with your experience, expertise and background must have had an absolute EXPERIENCE with these pieces.
I can tell you from my experience, fighting Fatalis in the game feels like what you heard haha. Cheers and here's hoping you give some more Monster Hunter themes a look in the future!
thanks David! I loved it :) I stopped and started because I was getting so excited!
Damn the rite of spring really really sounds like deviljho's theme
I love these videos and your insight into similar music pieces. Keep them coming!
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Wow. First time ive heared The Rite of Spring and I think the monster hunter equivalent would actually be closer to Deviljho's theme from this franchise, it sounds very similar enough to have to be an homage.
One of the most interesting parts of this song to me is that it's actually another version of the Forest & Hills theme, the first battle theme ever heard in a Monster Hunter game. The game begins as it ends.
Since you mentioned the Rite of Spring, I suggest you looking into Drakengard 1's OST. It has a lot of similar vibes to that piece, and many direct (but heavily distorted and "messed up") classical music inspirations. That game has a very...unique theme
One of the best video game music I've ever listened to.
As you progress through the phases, your theme "Proof Of The Hero" starts to blend in with Fatalis' theme, signifying that you are overcoming his might, the last phase when the original Proof Of The Hero plays is when the game tells you that victory is near at your hand.
Not only you are battling him, but Fatalis and the Hunter's respective songs are clashing too, what a phenomenal soundtrack.
Shagaru Magala's theme in MH Sunbreak begs to differ with the title >:]
I changed the title :D
@@MarcoMeatball oof x_x great video anyways haha
0:23 hearing this for the first time in game, I got goosebumps like my entire body was just screaming out to me "run"
now react to Khezu Theme pls.
Holy holy crap man, what a fantastic React, I love how you stop and break it down with how you interpret it in a visual characteristic way, I was literally vibing with you exactly as you felt it, what an absolute rush of adrenaline! (I came here after reaching and having attempted fatalis, still haven't won yet) And I never NEVER appreciated the music 1000% until hearing it seperately, this is an absolute work of art. THANK you absolutely awesome react vid man, gonna really really zone into the music now and turn on survival mode!
Aw man I'm so grateful for your enthusiasm!
Fatalis is likely the most dangerous monster in all of Monster Hunter. Not only is it incredibly powerful, but it actively attacks humans. Other monsters may attack you because you threaten them, but Fatalis will attack you because it wants to eradicate humanity.
Fatalis burnt down an advanced civilisation in a single night and it's presence alone scares off most living creatures.
The word Fatalis was originally used to describe the phenomenon of this mass destruction, but over time it became synonymous with the monster itself.
The music tells, what Fatalis is. PURE TERROR! :D
I love how Fatalis’ theme and the hunters themes cut in and out, gives the impression of an intense power struggle
What I’ve always loved about this theme is it’s elements of push and pull with different themes. The Hunter’s theme bursts in, Fatalis theme retorts, the two compete for a sound, and it continues. It’s very reminiscent of how every blow you strike may set Fatalis back, but he’s always going to hit back harder. The chorus swells, swells, swells, and now they’re singing YOUR song! YOU are the hero! Now you have the upper hand.
Musical excellence, love the vid, love this track!
The cool thing about fatalis is that he is the only monster that's a (medieval) dragon where most monsters are wyverns, snakes, etc and he's one of the strongest in the series
Wish this wouldve included proof of a hero before the finish its near essential to make his fight hit home even harder
I see everyone talk about fatalis in lore but I would also like to mention just how amazing the actual fight is in game. In my opinion its one of the best boss fights in video game history. Fatalis has the perfect amount of difficulty where only actual gods will first try him but failing doesn’t feel bad because you know it was your fault and not a bs mechanic and you will never beat him without an actual build and proper items. The shorter quest time (30 minutes instead of the usual 50) also means you really have to try hard to best him and use all your resources and all the siege weapons. Lastly the fight is just such a spectacle and made in such a way when you progress through the phases and Fatalis powers up you yourself feel even more motivated to bring him down not to mention towards the very end of the fight when its at its most tense moment you use the dragonator (basically 2 massive spikes) to knock him down and proof of a hero begins to play which is the hunters theme basically saying you are in control now. I love this fight and highly recommend watching some of it if you haven’t already.
Oh man, never thought I would lear something about classical composition from a MH-Theme.
I love your videos, because of that.
I'm SO happy that you did Fatalis's theme, I always thought that you'd like it the moment I found your channel! I *definitely* suggest you try Safi'Jiiva's medley next, it's another absolutely brilliant piece from Iceborne that also incorporates a lot of similar vocals.
As I'm midway through the game, it's my first time hearing Fatalis theme here from your video, and I love everything about the excerpt at 2:15; from the 7/4 time signature to the exchange among the brass instruments, the semi quavers from the trumpets accompanied by the (floor) toms, the strings that create the tension and build up to 2:27, and that fortissimo, syncopated(?) triplet timpani rhythm. Love your breakdown of this piece
Now, imagine spending a whole year playing this game untill the day you fight Fatalis and hear this song for the first time. As far as i know you never played Monster Hunter and don't have too much connection to the game, but burst into joy and excitement listening to the song anyways.
When i first heard this song while fighting Fatalis i started crying with excitement and happiness. There is much more in this song, it has a lot o references to other songs in the game, it feels like a tribute to your journey hunting all these monsters. It was by far the best moment i ever had in a video game my whole life.
10:24 when you mentioned "Berserk mode" and "fight for survival", it actually reflects on the games. This is the 3rd phase of the fight where Fatalis starts to do mores damage if you failed to break it's head. It's attacks can one shot you at this phase, literally a fight for survival.