Yes exactly, this omission was a suprise for me when opening the package. But it still a great offering considering the wide stand, the included wheel guards, the new quick hitch and the extendable toe arm. One other minor problem that someone pointed out that you have to be careful when opening the trailer because the handles can be turned too far and then kind of snap: ruclips.net/video/ULNem6g-M4w/видео.html
@@bernhardreviews Yes, I hope Burley sort this out. The type of people willing to separate with the $ Burley ask indicates they want it badly enough and I don't doubt many view it as an answer to owning a car - so reliability will be prime.
@@bernhardreviews So far I am very confident it will last. I treat it with respect for a start, but have semi-unintentionally tipped it twice - first time was descending the hill leaving my house where there is a 90 degree bend, I didn't slow down at all. Second time was another sharp turn at average speed except this time the load was as high as it could be. My fault both occasions. Its a very very small characteristic that I am now consciously aware of. When you are transporting like this you will not really need to be speeding as normal. I hope Burley go back to fitting the links to the tote bag - a prime feature if you ask me. Also I hope they improve by increasing robustness of the new 2-way handle. Its made the mech more complex and, in my opinion, no great advantage. But as you correctly say, the included wheelguards are a plus and less expense. I like the description of the coupling and telescoping extension as well. Best improvement for sure is the stand - I am especially careful with mine, the new one is the best. Hope to see you do more vids, (you should introduce your better half as well!) they're quite good Bernhard!
@@alannewman85 thanks for your first impressions... of course I want to make more videos, but I have to be more specific maybe I will concentrate on bikes and other sports equipment, did cameras but mixing everything the subscribers are getting confused... trying to get my focus
I have the new trailer and it's been perfect for hauling groceries and large items. I never had the older version so this updated trailer is perfect for me. Great review. Thank you.
One problem with this trailer I haven’t seen mentioned much is the weird place they chose for their rear light. When the upper part of the tow arm is horizontal (as it’s supposed to be while in use), the light is perfectly obscured by the “fork” and the twist handle behind it, as long as one’s eye is at about the same level as the light is. Some secondary reflections may pass over the handle but I wouldn’t trust it with my life. The light itself is very nice and simple through. I just need to find a simple way to rise it some 5cm higher that doesn’t interfere with the trailer when folded.
Around corners I drive more careful because of the higher point of gravity it can tipple over but esp. if it get cought on a curb. But if you stay away from such obstacles usually no problem at all, it is very flexible.
Thanks for honest reviews. I wonder your opinion on the cargo trailer from Hinterher Hmini/Hmax. Do you recommend it over Burley Travoy? I’m looking for a trailer for my Brompton setup.
the travoy is good for the Brompton because of the small tires the trailer has a lot of clearance... the Hinterher I never tried but it is a different design as I explained also in the beginning of my review. It depends on your requirement if you want to transport cargo that is more wide (like furniture boxes etc.) the Hinterher design is better suited... the Travoy you can also use without the bike for carrying stuff but it is better for stuff that is not so wide (like golf equipment, bags, etc.) and it can tipple over which will not happen with trailers that are attached to the axis... also the (new) Travoy hitch you can easily swap between bikes... difficult to say... what do you want to transport with your Brompton?
Yes the Tote/storage bag not having Swivel Clips on it for use as a lower luggage bag is sensless. Definitely a retrogresive step on Burley's part. The clips cannot be found anywhere: and neither Burley nor Queedo will supply them or give me the clip ppliers / manufactures details for me to contact them direct. PS your girlfriends bike has plenty of space between back rack and rear wherl, so lower it, then it will doubtless accomodate the Travoy. Thank you Take care
yes exactly, maybe if you have access to a 3d printer you could print the clips. With my girlfriend this is actually a very good idea, but I guess it would mean to buy a different rear rack that is lower... but you are really right, you know these kind of things you don't see when making a video... but I think it is still a valid point to show because it will still be a problem for many people.
At 76 Retired, and no contacts for 3d printing. If only Burley had been more accomodating in supplying the Swivel Buckles, and had retained them on the storage / tote bag, it would have been better. Oh well. Thanks again for the vids. Enjoy the cycling Take care
@@bernhardreviews I have seen those clips somewhere. Having said that I was very disappointed that Burley did not implement a better system that uses click fasteners and a strap to tighten down the connection on their new model.
@@gary7vn if you have a 3d printer I think it is easy to print the clips, just the "problem" is sewing them to the existing bag. A strap is included or what do you mean?
thanks mate, greatly appreciated, I think it is a great trailer and the way it is built has advantages and disadvantages, I am happy that I was able to demonstrate it... for me the design is perfect because I can carry it in public transport if I need to (don't have a car)
yes this is totally true and I should have mentioned it in my review. But I am not a fan of this adapter plate because it blocks the bike rack (at least the upper part of it) and also I am not sure if I can still carry the same weight with it (compared to mounting it on the seatpost), i.e. if it is as robust. Last but not least I don't like that the angle is not horizontal when mounting the trailer on the bike rack and I would run in all the problems I mentioned in my review... maybe Burley makes an updated version that is quickly removable, that would be cool.
best review I have found, so far. Don't take the comments from asshats in consideration. They do typify a specific privilege and exceptionalism. Most people do not realize the English language first came from the Germanic languages. For myself, I find that peoples' accents help me with learning pronunciation of the language, that the accent is from. asshat - a superfluous and unattractive piece of clothing, hence an appropriate metaphor.
I’ve got the old yellow and grey version, which I love, but yeah, they must’ve REALLY listened to us because they’ve obviously made an effort to resolve some of the problems like my rear lights being hidden on the seat post and limited space for a rear pannier. Don’t think I’ll upgrade just yet, as you pointed out some valid points, but may well buy the QR clamp. How DiD you extend the arm on the old Travoy BTW?
cheers mate. Here you can see how I extended the arm on the old version: ruclips.net/video/VQ9aF_EoBWw/видео.html (enable english subtitles) I also 3d printed wheel protectors, but I cannot fully fold it up because of this: bernhardherzog.com/2019/04/26/burley-travoy-im-test-als-fahrradanhanger-mein-sup/#Meine_neue_Losung_Stand_August_2020
Hi! How did you manage to mount the pannier rack on the left side of the D4S? Mine won't fit, the disc brake is in the way... My rack is the same, Btwin 100.. thanks!
Hey, check out my blog: www.bernhardherzog.com/2020/11/10/fiido-d4s-foldable-e-bike-review/#Updates You will need 3 extra M5 screws 30mm length. I recommend hex type because it is much easier to tighten using an allen key (not the flat headed type I used) and some hex nuts. If you need further assistance just let me know or write if this is helpful I appreciate it!
good question it can even out bumps because it is quite flexible also because of air tires, I used it to transport my camera equipment several times. But if you transport something that is super fragile or valuable I would recommend to put it into your backpack because your body can even out bumps even better ;-) .... put big and heavy stuff in trailer and small fragile things into your backpack, then you don't have all the weight on your back ...
hey mate you should be able to grab it from Decathlon (UK for example). Here are all the details: bernhardherzog.com/2020/11/10/fiido-d4s-foldable-e-bike-review/#Updates
My Travoy and Dahon 20 Flips every mile, all loads tiny bumps. Not on my 622 wheeled bike. The trailer has a quirky geometry. Some bikes don't work well with it D rings for attaching your own bags and straps are easy to find. A small triangle of Coroplast makes a good fender, to keep the wheel from rubbing. Find girlfriend with longer legs who can sew and life will get better.
hahahaha lol yes ok thank you I will tell her... actually I 3d printed fenders already but cannot fold anymore but I am happy it is ok more or less now (here is how it looks like: www.bernhardherzog.com/2019/04/26/burley-travoy-im-test-als-fahrradanhanger-mein-sup/#Meine_neue_Losung_Stand_August_2020 ). Will also print D rings maybe sooner or later. Many girls have short legs this why I mentioned it in my review... my trailer flipped again recently I have to drive more careful I guess.
I wouldn't bother printing Drings. They are cheaper by the bag from China than than is materials to print. They just have to fit over the anchors. It is a bummer that Burley messed with the bags. Sew a flat strap to the one they ship with and recover its function. Making your own straps is easy and you get just what you need. Sewing is better than meditation, too. The Travoy is a $150 trailer that tries to sell you $500 worth of accessories. Good at what it does, just limited. Your fenders are gorgeous, but coroplast and zip ties have that ghetto elegance that is hard to beat at their price point and the web strap that Burley added makes them work well. You can even match your colors, depending who is running for office when you recycle their sign. You don't want to rub on your iSUP. The seat height issue also affects trailer suspension geometry, and with its narrow wheel base makes its tendency to flip worse when bounced.
@@whazzat8015 the coroplast I think I have seen it on amazon.com review maybe it was you (I think the review is not online anymore because the old trailer version is no more) ;-) but thanks for the tips it is one possibility that's for sure... I am only just getting started with DIY it is something that is very interesting for me of course but I still have not much knowledge esp. comparing myself to people that have some background in product design it surprises me what is possible... like your writing very funny hehehe will try sewing if it is like meditation
@@whazzat8015 In over ten years of not worrying about the trailer I have flipped it maybe three times. Not sure why that is happening to you. I love this trailer.
@@gary7vn They are sensitive to bike geometry. Overly so. My 700C road bikes: no Prob rare flip, predictable, mostly curbs. 20" foldies: horrid,Lateral seat post motion is greater and position of trailer CG+narrow wheelbase means slightest bump at right time flips. A bit better with new hitch. It's all in the geometry. Some combos are just horrid. This is not something he end user should have to figure out at this price point.
Is it not very expensive? One can buy a Woolfcraft trolley for 85 E that can load 100kg and weighs 5.5 kg , remains how to attach it in a good way but that cannot be too difficult.
this is exactly the point, you need a hitch that is safe to use and don't have an accident when you go around a corner or catch the curb with a wheel etc. You don't want to have a trolley that decides to go his own way when you are in the middle of traffic... there are cheaper trolleys also with a hitch for bikes but you have to be much more careful... well you still have to be careful with the Travoy but it is kind of reliable, also the material is very strong!
hi. thx for video I have a question - I have have Mate X (modified heavily) and I could attach this trailer under my saddle just about 73cm/29inches above ground. is it possible?
@@bernhardreviews Hi, Thank you for reply. What I meant is that my mate is very low, my sit is very low, it is more like chopper bike where my feet touch the ground while I'm sitting (perfect solution for Icelandic ice paths, and cool look) so I have to mount trailer pretty low on my post. My concern is that it may put to much strain on the upper joint of trailer as the angle change drastically. I'm not intend to tow anything heavier than 10kg thou
@@comaenzo hey ok I understand, before I went to my bike and measured and thought it should work... important is that you have actually space on the seatpost, i.e. it is not all the way in (like in the video with the bike of my gf)... but I think the mate has a pretty low frame already so this is not the problem... to really see if it works I would actually need to mount it with the height 73cm and see... I will try to do it later and then come back to you!
@@comaenzo Hey mate, I tried to hold it in the height that you specified. It will not be parallel to the ground but I think it is still ok. If it is much lower it also gets difficult to get it out of the hitch (because of the angle, you can see in my video I think), but with the height you gave it was ok. Here I put two images I hope you can see the links: www.bernhardherzog.com/resources/20211221_211305.jpg www.bernhardherzog.com/resources/20211221_211352.jpg
It really depends on your requirements. Burley Travoy is good for public transport and shopping (like using it in your city). When you want to go on a bike tour then I would not take the Burley Travoy, because it is not really made for that (can tip over when not careful, etc.). On the other hand trailer like bob ibex is not good for public transport and shopping because you cannot easily used it as a shopping cart and it does not look like a trolley like many people are using in public transport, it is more bulky, no way to fold it like Travoy...
@@gary7vn the center of gravity is just higher on the travoy. If you catch something like a curb it can loose its balance and tipple over... it happened to me twice, now I am more careful...
Sehr gute, detaillierte Bewertung. Alles Wichtige wurde besprochen. Super! Hat mir sehr geholfen. Aber: bittschön, a bissl mehr Mühe mit der englischen Aussprache, typischen Satzmelodie und Betonung könntets Euch schon geben, wenn man schon ein Video in einer Fremdsprache verfasst. Da rollt's einem ja die Fußnägel hoch beim Zuhören :D :D :D :D
Hallo erstmals es freut mich, dass dir das Video geholfen hat. Ich bin was den Rest betrifft voll bei dir, ich bitte nur um Verständnis das Video war sehr viel Arbeit (viele Tage und nix gesponsert) parallel in deutsch und englisch zu machen (+einen Blog-Artikel) und das Produkt auch gleich wieder zurückschicken zu müssen. Ich habe versucht aus der wenigen Zeit die ich hatte das Möglichste rauszuholen (hätte z.B. auch gerne mehr draussen gefilmt, aber ich wollte ja noch mein Geld zurück, wenn ich es zurückschicke, also nix mit schmutzig machen). Ehrlich gesagt habe ich quasi in Echtzeit von deutsch auf englisch übersetzt, dann kommt eben sowas raus, ich weiß es kommt aufs Ergebnis an und das ist nicht perfekt. Ich sage mir immer better done than perfect, aber auf jeden Fall DANKE für dein wertvolles Feedback ich werde mich beim nächsten Mal noch mehr reinhängen! Deutsche Version ist hier: ruclips.net/video/-68Khi0rTE0/видео.html
@@bernhardreviews Am Video selbst hatte ich gar nichts zu bemängeln :) Das hast schon gut gemacht. Habe einen sehr guten Eindruck von dem Travoy bekommen. Alles gut soweit. Es ist halt nur ein bisserl eine Qual für's Ohr, wenn jemand offenbar so gar keinen Wert auf richtige Aussprache, Betonung und Satzmelodie einer Fremdsprache legt. Nicht bös sein für den Hinweis.
@@corilu1965 Nee bin überhaupt nicht böse, hatte das Gefühl schon während der Aufnahme und danke für die Bestätigung. Ein paar Schnitzer habe ich noch während der Aufnahme ausbessern können, aber für mehr hatte ich leider nicht die Zeit (bzw. wahrscheinlich auch nicht die Übung im Moment), v.a. gegen Ende merkt man das und beim Voiceover.
@@bernhardreviews Good film. Unless you are Guilianni and shirt comes out when you are thinking of having sexy time. Changed my life , but now wife thinks can ride on inside of car.
@@whazzat8015 I already watched it thanks to everyone for the recommendation... it was ok but mostly kind of stupid but I guess that's what it's about ;-)
I have the older one too and just bought a new ebike with an integral rack. I was going to buy the rack mount, but I am rethinking as charging $39 Cd for two pieces of aluminum with 6 screw holes in it amounts to theft. I am going to write Travoy about that too.
@@bernhardreviews I can still use my ancient panniers from the mid 1990s. I don't overload it (stay within 60 pounds and load heavier on the bottom). I haven't taken it off road, for real, but I have taken it on footpaths made by feet.
Your accent is hilarious! That's why I watched the video, although the content was quite good. Please get a haircut, introduce your girlfriend (assuming she has a name) and ask her not to let her hair fall in front and cover the item she is 'demonstrating'.
Hey mate, thank you for the very specific feedback this is highly appreciated (I had to laugh esp. my hair)! I am sorry someone else was also complaining I wrote the script for this video in German (did the German version video first) and then kind of translated it on the fly (while recording the video), I should have done it the other way round (my english is usually not as bad as in this video). I will tell my girlfriend Patricia she will like your comment... I am very thankful for her help because I know it is not always easy with me because I have very high standards for my videos ;-) This video was lots of work esp. buying the trailer and sending it back (not sponsored) but I know with the language I will have to put in more effort but I was on a tight schedule because I could keep the trailer just for a short period because I had to send it back (I also wanted to make more scenes outside but I could not make the trailer too much dirty or break it because I maybe would not get the money back from the shop hehehe)
Hey my friend you can turn on the subtitles maybe then it is better understandable for you. Are you a native English speaker? Because until now only non-native speakers were complaining ;-) If you have any question about the content of the video or about the trailer please don't hesitate, I will try to answer here immediately.
Completely unimpressed by the English pronunciation, you stumble through the foreign language vocabulary here. This is almost unbearable and extremely incomprehensible, so why in English?
Hey my friend I am sorry I already explained somewhere that I have written the script for this video in German and translated on the fly while recording, this is why it is not perfect (it is not easy to translate a language on the fly). I hope you still appreciate my efforts: This is not a sponsored review. It was a crazy amount of work for me because I had to order the product and then send it back soon after so I had very little time to do so the review. That's why I had no time to write a proper script in English. But I can assure you for my future videos I will make a separate script for English version and I also hope that I will have more time then. Also I do English versions to help more people, I get almost nothing back for this video in monetary terms but still this is my most successful video I ever made (maybe because of that, because it is really honest). So it cannot be so bad as you write but of course I respect your opinion. Just so you know, this video had 100 likes without a dislike for some time, and it is ranked number 1 for lots of keywords. So I am still happy that I did it because this is what counts for me in the end, that I was able to help a lot of people and educate them on a product that I think is really valuable. You know I had many doubts for example if should really do this, like ordering a product just to send it back, make two videos in separate languages, make something without getting much support from the manufacturer, etc. etc. But I am happy that I did not hear to these voices and went through with it, there are so many naysayers and my inner one is one of the biggest. If you have read this until hear I thank you for your time, again of course I totally respect your opinion and I will work hard every time so that I am better to understand. Thank you
@@bernhardreviews I'm an English native speaker, I thought pronunciation was excellent, I had no problem understanding you and I think you a great job, I found the review very helpful. Keep up the good work Thanks.
@@merqutio69 Hey thanks mate, appreciate it. I am happy that I was able to help with my review. I know I can do a little bit better but still the people complaining are usually German speakers like myself and not english native spakers ;-)
I can’t believe people complaining about your English !!!
Great vid and I had no problem whatsoever understanding what you said.
Thanks for posting.
thank you great that my video is helpful!
Burley have made a big mistake not putting connection fittings on the Tote Bag, you are 100% correct and thanks for pointing this out.
Yes exactly, this omission was a suprise for me when opening the package. But it still a great offering considering the wide stand, the included wheel guards, the new quick hitch and the extendable toe arm. One other minor problem that someone pointed out that you have to be careful when opening the trailer because the handles can be turned too far and then kind of snap: ruclips.net/video/ULNem6g-M4w/видео.html
@@bernhardreviews Yes, I hope Burley sort this out. The type of people willing to separate with the $ Burley ask indicates they want it badly enough and I don't doubt many view it as an answer to owning a car - so reliability will be prime.
yes if you buy Burley you want to use it for years to come
@@bernhardreviews So far I am very confident it will last. I treat it with respect for a start, but have semi-unintentionally tipped it twice - first time was descending the hill leaving my house where there is a 90 degree bend, I didn't slow down at all. Second time was another sharp turn at average speed except this time the load was as high as it could be. My fault both occasions. Its a very very small characteristic that I am now consciously aware of. When you are transporting like this you will not really need to be speeding as normal.
I hope Burley go back to fitting the links to the tote bag - a prime feature if you ask me.
Also I hope they improve by increasing robustness of the new 2-way handle. Its made the mech more complex and, in my opinion, no great advantage.
But as you correctly say, the included wheelguards are a plus and less expense. I like the description of the coupling and telescoping extension as well. Best improvement for sure is the stand - I am especially careful with mine, the new one is the best.
Hope to see you do more vids, (you should introduce your better half as well!) they're quite good Bernhard!
@@alannewman85 thanks for your first impressions... of course I want to make more videos, but I have to be more specific maybe I will concentrate on bikes and other sports equipment, did cameras but mixing everything the subscribers are getting confused... trying to get my focus
Good non-biased video...lots of real-world information...THANK YOU and a big thumbs up!! (Good production values on your video.)
thanks mate appreciate it for detailed feedback ... if you have any further questions don't hesitate to post. cheers
Brilliant review, Bernhard - so helpful. Thank you.
great, thanks for the feedback... I am happy
I have the new trailer and it's been perfect for hauling groceries and large items. I never had the older version so this updated trailer is perfect for me. Great review. Thank you.
Hey great thanks, if I would buy it new I would choose the updated 2020 version of course. Enjoy, I use it a lot!!!
Great job on the video mate 👍👍👍
thanks mate appreciate it!
How about Andersen royal shopper plus? For grocieries it seems perfect
One problem with this trailer I haven’t seen mentioned much is the weird place they chose for their rear light. When the upper part of the tow arm is horizontal (as it’s supposed to be while in use), the light is perfectly obscured by the “fork” and the twist handle behind it, as long as one’s eye is at about the same level as the light is. Some secondary reflections may pass over the handle but I wouldn’t trust it with my life. The light itself is very nice and simple through. I just need to find a simple way to rise it some 5cm higher that doesn’t interfere with the trailer when folded.
I have heard people say the Travoy can be unstable when you go around corners, especially on rough ground. Have you ever had any problems with this?
Around corners I drive more careful because of the higher point of gravity it can tipple over but esp. if it get cought on a curb. But if you stay away from such obstacles usually no problem at all, it is very flexible.
Very helpful review!
thanks mike!!!
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Ah hi thanks for your visit appreciate it danke!!!
As a Canadian I understood everything you said. I like the accent. Thanks for the review!
you are welcome! thanks for the feedback ☺️
Würde mich interessieren ob man die Deichselverlänger als Ersatzteil für den alten Travoy verwenden/kaufen kann. Herzlichen Dank für das Video 😊
glaube ich eher nicht... am besten bei Burley anfragen
Does the included storage bag still attach to the trailer? The previous version’s includes storage bag could attach to the trailer when being used.
Thanks for honest reviews. I wonder your opinion on the cargo trailer from Hinterher Hmini/Hmax. Do you recommend it over Burley Travoy? I’m looking for a trailer for my Brompton setup.
the travoy is good for the Brompton because of the small tires the trailer has a lot of clearance... the Hinterher I never tried but it is a different design as I explained also in the beginning of my review. It depends on your requirement if you want to transport cargo that is more wide (like furniture boxes etc.) the Hinterher design is better suited... the Travoy you can also use without the bike for carrying stuff but it is better for stuff that is not so wide (like golf equipment, bags, etc.) and it can tipple over which will not happen with trailers that are attached to the axis... also the (new) Travoy hitch you can easily swap between bikes... difficult to say... what do you want to transport with your Brompton?
Yes the Tote/storage bag not having Swivel Clips on it for use as a lower luggage bag is sensless. Definitely a retrogresive step on Burley's part.
The clips cannot be found anywhere: and neither Burley nor Queedo will supply them or give me the clip ppliers / manufactures details for me to contact them direct.
PS your girlfriends bike has plenty of space between back rack and rear wherl, so lower it, then it will doubtless accomodate the Travoy.
Thank you
Take care
yes exactly, maybe if you have access to a 3d printer you could print the clips. With my girlfriend this is actually a very good idea, but I guess it would mean to buy a different rear rack that is lower... but you are really right, you know these kind of things you don't see when making a video... but I think it is still a valid point to show because it will still be a problem for many people.
At 76 Retired, and no contacts for 3d printing. If only Burley had been more accomodating in supplying the Swivel Buckles, and had retained them on the storage / tote bag, it would have been better. Oh well.
Thanks again for the vids.
Enjoy the cycling
Take care
@@bernhardreviews I have seen those clips somewhere. Having said that I was very disappointed that Burley did not implement a better system that uses click fasteners and a strap to tighten down the connection on their new model.
@@gary7vn if you have a 3d printer I think it is easy to print the clips, just the "problem" is sewing them to the existing bag. A strap is included or what do you mean?
Wonderful review Bernhard, I now have a much better idea as to the trailer’s functionality and potential flaws.
thanks mate, greatly appreciated, I think it is a great trailer and the way it is built has advantages and disadvantages, I am happy that I was able to demonstrate it... for me the design is perfect because I can carry it in public transport if I need to (don't have a car)
Also you can buy an adapter plate for a bike rack and you could hook the old trailer up to your girl friend's bike.
yes this is totally true and I should have mentioned it in my review. But I am not a fan of this adapter plate because it blocks the bike rack (at least the upper part of it) and also I am not sure if I can still carry the same weight with it (compared to mounting it on the seatpost), i.e. if it is as robust. Last but not least I don't like that the angle is not horizontal when mounting the trailer on the bike rack and I would run in all the problems I mentioned in my review... maybe Burley makes an updated version that is quickly removable, that would be cool.
@@bernhardreviews Someone needs to make clever adaptor and sell it. As it is, it is ridiculously over-priced.
@@gary7vn yeah this is totally true
best review I have found, so far.
Don't take the comments from asshats in consideration. They do typify a specific privilege and exceptionalism. Most people do not realize the English language first came from the Germanic languages.
For myself, I find that peoples' accents help me with learning pronunciation of the language, that the accent is from.
asshat - a superfluous and unattractive piece of clothing, hence an appropriate metaphor.
PS have you a chance to try hinterher trolleys?
hey thanks appreciate it no sorry I have not tried yet but I will check it out, maybe I can test it sooner or later... it looks interesting
I’ve got the old yellow and grey version, which I love, but yeah, they must’ve REALLY listened to us because they’ve obviously made an effort to resolve some of the problems like my rear lights being hidden on the seat post and limited space for a rear pannier. Don’t think I’ll upgrade just yet, as you pointed out some valid points, but may well buy the QR clamp. How DiD you extend the arm on the old Travoy BTW?
cheers mate. Here you can see how I extended the arm on the old version: ruclips.net/video/VQ9aF_EoBWw/видео.html (enable english subtitles) I also 3d printed wheel protectors, but I cannot fully fold it up because of this: bernhardherzog.com/2019/04/26/burley-travoy-im-test-als-fahrradanhanger-mein-sup/#Meine_neue_Losung_Stand_August_2020
Hi!
How did you manage to mount the pannier rack on the left side of the D4S?
Mine won't fit, the disc brake is in the way...
My rack is the same, Btwin 100..
thanks!
Hey, check out my blog: www.bernhardherzog.com/2020/11/10/fiido-d4s-foldable-e-bike-review/#Updates
You will need 3 extra M5 screws 30mm length. I recommend hex type because it is much easier to tighten using an allen key (not the flat headed type I used) and some hex nuts. If you need further assistance just let me know or write if this is helpful I appreciate it!
AMADO AONDE VC COMPROU O SEU TRAVOY? HELLO THERE WHERE DID U BUY YOUR TRAVOY?
Hello I bought from German Shop but you could also buy from Amazon maybe?
Any good for rifle hard case, thinking it would be a bumpy ride for scope
good question it can even out bumps because it is quite flexible also because of air tires, I used it to transport my camera equipment several times. But if you transport something that is super fragile or valuable I would recommend to put it into your backpack because your body can even out bumps even better ;-) .... put big and heavy stuff in trailer and small fragile things into your backpack, then you don't have all the weight on your back ...
How much more weight is now on backpack?
POXA VIDA TENHO MUITA VONTADE DE TER UM DESSES
i ! Thanks for video. How does it handle going down a slope when charge with heavy load?
handles it quite well
What about when you have shopping and want to fold your bike to go on bus or train?
well you still can just remove trailer from bike and fold bike or what do you mean? 😁
@@bernhardreviews I mean. How do you carry the extra?
nice video thanks
thank you, appreciate it!
Hallo wo did you get the bike rack you have on d4s? Thanks in advance
hey mate you should be able to grab it from Decathlon (UK for example). Here are all the details: bernhardherzog.com/2020/11/10/fiido-d4s-foldable-e-bike-review/#Updates
My Travoy and Dahon 20 Flips every mile, all loads tiny bumps. Not on my 622 wheeled bike.
The trailer has a quirky geometry. Some bikes don't work well with it
D rings for attaching your own bags and straps are easy to find.
A small triangle of Coroplast makes a good fender, to keep the wheel from rubbing.
Find girlfriend with longer legs who can sew and life will get better.
hahahaha lol yes ok thank you I will tell her... actually I 3d printed fenders already but cannot fold anymore but I am happy it is ok more or less now (here is how it looks like: www.bernhardherzog.com/2019/04/26/burley-travoy-im-test-als-fahrradanhanger-mein-sup/#Meine_neue_Losung_Stand_August_2020 ). Will also print D rings maybe sooner or later. Many girls have short legs this why I mentioned it in my review... my trailer flipped again recently I have to drive more careful I guess.
I wouldn't bother printing Drings. They are cheaper by the bag from China than than is materials to print. They just have to fit over the anchors. It is a bummer that Burley messed with the bags. Sew a flat strap to the one they ship with and recover its function. Making your own straps is easy and you get just what you need. Sewing is better than meditation, too. The Travoy is a $150 trailer that tries to sell you $500 worth of accessories. Good at what it does, just limited. Your fenders are gorgeous, but coroplast and zip ties have that ghetto elegance that is hard to beat at their price point and the web strap that Burley added makes them work well. You can even match your colors, depending who is running for office when you recycle their sign. You don't want to rub on your iSUP.
The seat height issue also affects trailer suspension geometry, and with its narrow wheel base makes its tendency to flip worse when bounced.
@@whazzat8015 the coroplast I think I have seen it on amazon.com review maybe it was you (I think the review is not online anymore because the old trailer version is no more) ;-) but thanks for the tips it is one possibility that's for sure... I am only just getting started with DIY it is something that is very interesting for me of course but I still have not much knowledge esp. comparing myself to people that have some background in product design it surprises me what is possible... like your writing very funny hehehe will try sewing if it is like meditation
@@whazzat8015 In over ten years of not worrying about the trailer I have flipped it maybe three times. Not sure why that is happening to you. I love this trailer.
@@gary7vn They are sensitive to bike geometry. Overly so. My 700C road bikes: no Prob rare flip, predictable, mostly curbs. 20" foldies: horrid,Lateral seat post motion is greater and position of trailer CG+narrow wheelbase means slightest bump at right time flips. A bit better with new hitch. It's all in the geometry. Some combos are just horrid. This is not something he end user should have to figure out at this price point.
Is it not very expensive? One can buy a Woolfcraft trolley for 85 E that can load 100kg and weighs 5.5 kg , remains how to attach it in a good way but that cannot be too difficult.
this is exactly the point, you need a hitch that is safe to use and don't have an accident when you go around a corner or catch the curb with a wheel etc. You don't want to have a trolley that decides to go his own way when you are in the middle of traffic... there are cheaper trolleys also with a hitch for bikes but you have to be much more careful... well you still have to be careful with the Travoy but it is kind of reliable, also the material is very strong!
@@bernhardreviews$250 for a hitch?
Do it then and post the results. The Burley is well worth the money. Your kludge can never even come close.
@@larsroth826 You think your plan is superiour, build it, show us. You won't.
hi. thx for video
I have a question - I have have Mate X (modified heavily) and I could attach this trailer under my saddle just about 73cm/29inches above ground. is it possible?
hey great, mate is an awesome bike
I think it should work, but the arm will not be completely parallel to the ground
@@bernhardreviews
Hi,
Thank you for reply.
What I meant is that my mate is very low, my sit is very low, it is more like chopper bike where my feet touch the ground while I'm sitting (perfect solution for Icelandic ice paths, and cool look) so I have to mount trailer pretty low on my post. My concern is that it may put to much strain on the upper joint of trailer as the angle change drastically. I'm not intend to tow anything heavier than 10kg thou
@@comaenzo hey ok I understand, before I went to my bike and measured and thought it should work... important is that you have actually space on the seatpost, i.e. it is not all the way in (like in the video with the bike of my gf)... but I think the mate has a pretty low frame already so this is not the problem... to really see if it works I would actually need to mount it with the height 73cm and see... I will try to do it later and then come back to you!
@@bernhardreviews
That is more than I could expect. Thank you very much
@@comaenzo Hey mate, I tried to hold it in the height that you specified. It will not be parallel to the ground but I think it is still ok. If it is much lower it also gets difficult to get it out of the hitch (because of the angle, you can see in my video I think), but with the height you gave it was ok. Here I put two images I hope you can see the links:
www.bernhardherzog.com/resources/20211221_211305.jpg
www.bernhardherzog.com/resources/20211221_211352.jpg
what option do you think is better? this kind of trailer or a bob ibex trailer?
It really depends on your requirements. Burley Travoy is good for public transport and shopping (like using it in your city). When you want to go on a bike tour then I would not take the Burley Travoy, because it is not really made for that (can tip over when not careful, etc.). On the other hand trailer like bob ibex is not good for public transport and shopping because you cannot easily used it as a shopping cart and it does not look like a trolley like many people are using in public transport, it is more bulky, no way to fold it like Travoy...
@@bernhardreviews I strap my knapsack to my Burley for camping. No issues. I cannot understand this "flipping" issue at all (on roads and bike trails)
@@gary7vn the center of gravity is just higher on the travoy. If you catch something like a curb it can loose its balance and tipple over... it happened to me twice, now I am more careful...
do you have a link to buy the rear wheel cargo rack please?
Hello you mean for my E-Bike? I bought from Decathlon: tidd.ly/3kpeVST
@@bernhardreviews yes exactly, thank you
@@tried12usernames ok great!
@@bernhardreviews $30 buys a lot of 5mm / 1/4" Bolts and aluminum
@@whazzat8015 yes but will it look slick?
You talk like Arnold Schwarzenegger!! It‘s very funny. thanks for your advice
hahahaha great thanks I wish I would look like him 💪
Sehr gute, detaillierte Bewertung. Alles Wichtige wurde besprochen. Super! Hat mir sehr geholfen.
Aber: bittschön, a bissl mehr Mühe mit der englischen Aussprache, typischen Satzmelodie und Betonung könntets Euch schon geben, wenn man schon ein Video in einer Fremdsprache verfasst. Da rollt's einem ja die Fußnägel hoch beim Zuhören :D :D :D :D
Hallo erstmals es freut mich, dass dir das Video geholfen hat. Ich bin was den Rest betrifft voll bei dir, ich bitte nur um Verständnis das Video war sehr viel Arbeit (viele Tage und nix gesponsert) parallel in deutsch und englisch zu machen (+einen Blog-Artikel) und das Produkt auch gleich wieder zurückschicken zu müssen. Ich habe versucht aus der wenigen Zeit die ich hatte das Möglichste rauszuholen (hätte z.B. auch gerne mehr draussen gefilmt, aber ich wollte ja noch mein Geld zurück, wenn ich es zurückschicke, also nix mit schmutzig machen). Ehrlich gesagt habe ich quasi in Echtzeit von deutsch auf englisch übersetzt, dann kommt eben sowas raus, ich weiß es kommt aufs Ergebnis an und das ist nicht perfekt. Ich sage mir immer better done than perfect, aber auf jeden Fall DANKE für dein wertvolles Feedback ich werde mich beim nächsten Mal noch mehr reinhängen! Deutsche Version ist hier: ruclips.net/video/-68Khi0rTE0/видео.html
@@bernhardreviews Am Video selbst hatte ich gar nichts zu bemängeln :) Das hast schon gut gemacht. Habe einen sehr guten Eindruck von dem Travoy bekommen. Alles gut soweit.
Es ist halt nur ein bisserl eine Qual für's Ohr, wenn jemand offenbar so gar keinen Wert auf richtige Aussprache, Betonung und Satzmelodie einer Fremdsprache legt. Nicht bös sein für den Hinweis.
@@corilu1965 Nee bin überhaupt nicht böse, hatte das Gefühl schon während der Aufnahme und danke für die Bestätigung. Ein paar Schnitzer habe ich noch während der Aufnahme ausbessern können, aber für mehr hatte ich leider nicht die Zeit (bzw. wahrscheinlich auch nicht die Übung im Moment), v.a. gegen Ende merkt man das und beim Voiceover.
I bought it but since im not tall, it hits my rack like it did for your gf. Such a shame
Do you know Borat? He my friend in English. We play drink game with woman and wodka
Yes of course. Have you seen his latest film? Would you recommend it?
@@bernhardreviews Definitely recommend its
@@CosgroveNotts ok I will check it out
@@bernhardreviews Good film.
Unless you are Guilianni and shirt comes out when you are thinking of having sexy time.
Changed my life , but now wife thinks can ride on inside of car.
@@whazzat8015 I already watched it thanks to everyone for the recommendation... it was ok but mostly kind of stupid but I guess that's what it's about ;-)
I have the older version and use a rack mount. www.burley.com/product/travoy-rack-mount/
Are you happy with it? Is it stable also with heavier loads? Can you still use the bike rack?
I have the older one too and just bought a new ebike with an integral rack. I was going to buy the rack mount, but I am rethinking as charging $39 Cd for two pieces of aluminum with 6 screw holes in it amounts to theft. I am going to write Travoy about that too.
@@gary7vn I swallowed the cost.. My seat post is too short (not a folding bike).
@@bernhardreviews I can still use my ancient panniers from the mid 1990s. I don't overload it (stay within 60 pounds and load heavier on the bottom). I haven't taken it off road, for real, but I have taken it on footpaths made by feet.
Your accent is hilarious! That's why I watched the video, although the content was quite good. Please get a haircut, introduce your girlfriend (assuming she has a name) and ask her not to let her hair fall in front and cover the item she is 'demonstrating'.
Hey mate, thank you for the very specific feedback this is highly appreciated (I had to laugh esp. my hair)! I am sorry someone else was also complaining I wrote the script for this video in German (did the German version video first) and then kind of translated it on the fly (while recording the video), I should have done it the other way round (my english is usually not as bad as in this video). I will tell my girlfriend Patricia she will like your comment... I am very thankful for her help because I know it is not always easy with me because I have very high standards for my videos ;-) This video was lots of work esp. buying the trailer and sending it back (not sponsored) but I know with the language I will have to put in more effort but I was on a tight schedule because I could keep the trailer just for a short period because I had to send it back (I also wanted to make more scenes outside but I could not make the trailer too much dirty or break it because I maybe would not get the money back from the shop hehehe)
You must be a Yankee. How are things in the Eyerack and the Eyeran today?
Could someone please translate to English?
Hey my friend you can turn on the subtitles maybe then it is better understandable for you. Are you a native English speaker? Because until now only non-native speakers were complaining ;-) If you have any question about the content of the video or about the trailer please don't hesitate, I will try to answer here immediately.
Kannst du eine andere Sprache als Englisch sprechen? Nein. Habe ich mir gedacht.
Completely unimpressed by the English pronunciation, you stumble through the foreign language vocabulary here. This is almost unbearable and extremely incomprehensible, so why in English?
Hey my friend I am sorry I already explained somewhere that I have written the script for this video in German and translated on the fly while recording, this is why it is not perfect (it is not easy to translate a language on the fly). I hope you still appreciate my efforts: This is not a sponsored review. It was a crazy amount of work for me because I had to order the product and then send it back soon after so I had very little time to do so the review. That's why I had no time to write a proper script in English. But I can assure you for my future videos I will make a separate script for English version and I also hope that I will have more time then. Also I do English versions to help more people, I get almost nothing back for this video in monetary terms but still this is my most successful video I ever made (maybe because of that, because it is really honest). So it cannot be so bad as you write but of course I respect your opinion. Just so you know, this video had 100 likes without a dislike for some time, and it is ranked number 1 for lots of keywords. So I am still happy that I did it because this is what counts for me in the end, that I was able to help a lot of people and educate them on a product that I think is really valuable. You know I had many doubts for example if should really do this, like ordering a product just to send it back, make two videos in separate languages, make something without getting much support from the manufacturer, etc. etc. But I am happy that I did not hear to these voices and went through with it, there are so many naysayers and my inner one is one of the biggest. If you have read this until hear I thank you for your time, again of course I totally respect your opinion and I will work hard every time so that I am better to understand. Thank you
BTW if you speak German the version is here: ruclips.net/video/-68Khi0rTE0/видео.html
@@bernhardreviews I'm an English native speaker, I thought pronunciation was excellent, I had no problem understanding you and I think you a great job, I found the review very helpful. Keep up the good work Thanks.
@@merqutio69 Hey thanks mate, appreciate it. I am happy that I was able to help with my review. I know I can do a little bit better but still the people complaining are usually German speakers like myself and not english native spakers ;-)
His English was good and totally understandable for me non-native English speaker.
the p in pneumatic is silent /no͞oˈmadik/