London Perambulator - Stonebridge Park to Perivale | 2008 unseen footage
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Out-takes from my feature documentary about deep topographer Nick Papadimitriou, the London Perambulator (2009). This video follows a walk following a water main from Stonebridge Park to Perivale in June 2008. We walk along the North Circular to the River Brent then turn into Wycombe Road. We follow the water main through the industrial estates that line the Grand Union Canal before emerging on the A40 Western Avenue in front of the Hoover Building at Perivale. The video also includes an unseen out-take from the interview with Will Self describing Nick's work. Nick and Will have been friends for a number of years and Nick did research for Will Self's, The Book of Dave.
The London Perambulator was shot over a year between January 2008 and January 2009 and premiered at the Whitechapel Gallery in the East End Film Festival in April 2009. The screening was followed by a discussion panel with Will Self, Iain Sinclair and John Rogers chaired by Dr Andrea Phillips from Goldsmiths College London. The film also screened at London International Documentary Festival, Curzon Soho, Cine City Brighton Film Festival, Cork International Festival, and Transartfest, Art Biennial, Berlin ... among others.
The film was shot and edited in a 4:3 aspect ratio with the interviews originally shot 16:9 and cropped to 4:3. The Will Self interview is presented here in its original 16:9 aspect ratio.
The introduction to this video was filmed by Joseph Rogers on 5th September 2020 in Wanstead Park.
You can watch the film and the panel discussion here:
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I liked what Nick said: "I love the Brent. It's like a thread that runs through my childhood. I'm proud to know it. I'm proud to be intimately conjoined with it in the way that I am."
I really hope there will be more of these out-takes. I see Nick P as a "non-conforming industry"of his very own. He has such an unusual mind and take on what he sees - it is refreshing. Much of his interpretation seems to rely on the past, or comparing current landscapes to what existed or might have existed in the past. But I wonder if he ever projects his sensory capabilities into the future - trying to determine how a landscape might change and try to connect with that - a kind of imagined time-travel into the future of a space? I guess I am wondering what those "still points in the turning world" look like now, 12 years on, and what they may look like in 2032.
Nick is an amazing lightening rod of the parallel vistas that rise behind the veil,and youve documented it beautifully John, thank you ......
“Let’s go and look at the water main” - it’s tourism, Jim, but not as we know it.
I also grew up round here. I used to go on random walks outward across this landscape to escape the bullshit of the city. I found that same energy that Nick talks about, it kept me going.
John you complement Nick so well. The great knack seems to be knowing when to be quiet and when to almost imperceptibly lead Nick on to elucidate on a theme-impressive.
Just wonderful. The godfather of deep topography!
Some great complementary material here - Will Self's comments about the gnostic element to Nick's practice testified very well to the profundity of what he does. Must have been some very tough editorial decisions to make in the process of making the (excellent) final cut!
Thank goodness for people like Nick and John. Rare almost unique perceptions. Profound.
Nick is a constant in my consciousness. The King of Middlesex.
Thank you John and Nick. Gives one something to ponder. Bob.
Thanks, I was born in Perivale. My mother worked in the Hoover factory. Some years later and, quite by coincidence, my father worked for Hoover in South Wales.
Did you get to meet J Edgar Hoover?
He's right, there definitely is a whole other rhythm, a whole other language and functionality tucked away in industrial pockets, behind minor high streets that are also furiously independent, chain free and microcosmic - with their own rhythm, language and functionality too. It is one of the great riddles of London - how the private industry and enterprise remains as healthy and oxygenated as it seems to be... as if they somehow secretly thrive in a way that defies all corporate method and monopoly. Like weeds cracking through concrete - or giant hogweed growing where nothing else will. I like such areas of London - The North Circular, Green Lanes, Walthamstow...
Best thing on RUclips, thanks John
Thanks John, great to see this, can't wait for more! :)
We need more Nick, the bloke is a wealth of knowledge for North West London
Would love to learn more about those areas, Dad grew up in Arnos Grove, Mum grew up in Alperton, I grew up in Yiewsley/Ickenham.... Nick needs a whole RUclips channel to talk about those areas.
I hope I don’t come over as patronising, I don’t mean to be at all, but your friend Nick seems to be a truly unique character. I mean that in a positive way. It seems like he’s been through a lot and still thrives on the world around him. I’ve seen the original film and loved it, so thanks for the extra footage. Great video John.
Noooo damm camera batteries right at the hoover building as well. What an interesting gentleman thank you for the tour Nick Papadimitriou and thank you for sharing John :)
So many of your perambulations involve watercourses, water engineering, rivers, marshes, it seems reasonable to think of the M25 as boundary of a giant petri dish in which one may observe the Brownian motion of ten million pairs of kidneys. Love this channel.🙂
thanks john , we could listen to Nick all day !
Aw! I was looking forward to seeing the Hoover building then the camera died! I don't think I've seen that building since I was a kid driving past it with my dad. I was full of curiosity because our hoover at home was a Hoover - a proper ancient round grey thing. (God I'm old now holy crap!) You know some interestingly non-average people, thanks for sharing them.
Very enjoyable...an urban Alfred Watkins....."Guardian readers yap" made me smile.
An urban Alfred Watkins - love it. So is Mr. Rogers the John Michell of the suburbs ?
Guardian readers' yap - heh 😎
Any time I remember Nick, the words 'Mogden Purification Works' also come to mind.
Me too, I love the way he says it
Very impressive introductory camera work!
thanks Kathleen - great to see you this evening
Always a treat. I started reading Scarp the other day, loving it.
The Rain Man of the North Circular. A joy to see him achieve oneness with the psychogeographical membrane of the gyratory.
Phenomenal if those are the outtakes can't wait to watch the film. Ees a bleedin nutter, in the best possible way. I would have a similar take on Seattle if it had not broken my heart and flushed me out. He is me
I always drive over those white things and haven't plunged into a subterranean river - yet! On a more serious note, I love the sense of place, deep time, and mysticism that Nick evokes. Suburbs are very unusual places masquerading as hyper normal places.
Enjoyed this outake looking forward to more.
Spent many a commute on the North Circular. That glass tower block at the beginning always seemed to be empty. It was in some famous TV series or film in the 70's but i cant think what it was now.
The Avengers and Some muvvers do ave em.
Great video John
I live near an Industrial Estate but as over the years it's got a bit run down and scruffy it's full of nature and wildlife,there are foxes and Badgers. It's full of unconsidered corners with wild flowers like Buddleia and Wild Carrot,I think it's really pretty actually. It's got a good vibe.
Forgot how good the london preambulator is .. to me it's like something is going on below etc .. Nick is kinda connected
yerrrr. found this quitwe interesting. love to talk and hear people talk. cheers
Unearthing more of the unnoticed familiar that is momentarily more familiar.Good work Nick and John
Good to see Nick again. Does he still run the laundrette in Eastenders ?
I hope that he would consider writing another book? After all, I note that there is another 'London underground' book just out: 'London Clay' by Tom Chivers. Haven't read it yet, it's next on the lost.
I always called it the South Norcular Road.
Love the MiniDV aesthetic, John. Nice clips of swaying plants and industrial buildings.
(P.S for car enthusiasts: the tasty blue Granada's MOT expired Feb 2009; the white Mondeo went in 2012).
So that explains all those shots of cars in your videos, O O!
i'm sure someone has mentioned the quote nick is paraphrasing is from a play "Schlageter" by nazi hanns johst. the line translates as "When I hear the word culture ..., I release the safety on my Browning!" oddly enough, i noticed on your patreon page,. one could become a ""fellow traveler" - if you look that term up on the font of all modern wisdom, wikipedia, the term can have unfortunate connotations! 😊
Nick is one of the great thinkers of this world, he sees what the rest of us just walk past. I like Hollywood out-takes, bloopers and gag reels but I'm not a great thinker.
Rolling Stones film their Circus film in the area back in 69
Remember Carlos Casteneda? You could posit a "Papadimitriou Way of Knowledge"?
that's a great idea Trevor - I wonder what Nick would make of it
The antidote to an advert on a plinth of marble.Mind that giant hogweed it'll reach down and gulp you up energy or art it doesn't care! It would be great if you could add all the film you have and reconstruct a much longer film and issue it on DVD/ blu-ray. The world need more Nic P. perambulations.The Deep Druid of Middlesex - but surely a druid would know what a white cat was feeling!
Nick's kind of mad, isn't he? In a non-destructive kind of creative genius kind of mad, that is. While there's something balmy about waxing eloquent in front of a stand of giant hogweed, there is a kind of rich allusion about the relationship between urbanism and nature and how each defends against the other in a highly toxic way.
Bliss.
Magic SCARP!
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you jest but I nearly refused to record this until I could go home and get the hat
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