@@thejasosei patients and their families can be so nasty, unreasonable, and demmamdimtg (not all of them of course). Hospitals are chronically short staffed and expecting nurses to take an unsafe patient load, and the list goes on.
The first 3 questions were hard to watch. Your guest is great, and gracious to give you his time. Listen to his answers and respond to them. You have nothing but your next question in your mind when he is giving thoughtful answers. Listen and respond! Actually care about what he is saying.
Just a tip, a lot of schools don’t accept some of the examples he provided as healthcare experience. For example a lot of schools I’ve looked at will not accept medical interpreter/ scribe as experience. Most schools want patient care not just healthcare interaction. Be sure to look at the schools you want to apply to for all pre reqs.
Michael Forrester That's a VERY good and IMPORTANT point Michael!😊👍🏽I've seen pre-PA students waste a whole year or two working as scribes or lab techs only to have that time NOT counted as direct-patient-contact-hours.☹😭😣
I'm a PA-S2 and there are several students in my class who were scribes and had no problems. I myself did EMS for 6 years. Definitely contact the schools you're looking at applying to and confirm what they want.
This video is awesome! I have an interview for a PA program in New York in 2 days and this video gave me a better understanding of a real-life PA experience in the ER! Thanks guys!!!
Peace be to you BOTH! This was a WONDERFUL interview Kaynen! It made me even MORE grateful for being a PA! Do you know how many PA s work at your hospital!🤔
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C Thank you Dr. Omar! I’m not sure of any PA’s the work on the floors in my hospital, but in the ER there are at least 20-30 that are contracted.
Good video So awesome to see you growing man I literally watched you in nursing school then graduate and now PA school pretty much Awesome Thanks for sharing that experience with us.
it's interesting that NPs have the autonomy to practice independently from a physician even tho PAs have the more medicine-focused education and longer schooling
4:30 I feel the main difference is education as well. A Nurse will always treat like a Nurse. They’re trained to care for the person which makes them great. And PAs are great because they learn the technical stuff and their education is closer to what doctors learn. It’s like Physicists working with an engineer. They feed off of each other and make a beautiful team 😊 Also this video was extremely informative, thank you.
Thank you! You helped me draw closer to my desire to start out as an ER PA. I'm currently halfway through my clinical year as a PA and thinking about Orthopedic or ER.
@@Cloverja878 yeah! I found that I like procedures the most and now work on a multi-specialty surgery team with first assist, pre and post op care. Been there >6 months and loving it! Also, I just couldn't find an ER who would take a new grad 🤷, but I'm where I belong 😁
I truly enjoyed this video. Im starting ny second degree in nursing this fall. Im truly excited. My ultimate goal is a mid level provider so this definitely gave me more insight to help make a better decision once i get to that point. Thank you!
The difference between the two is easy. Nurses or NP heals or look at the body as a whole. The PA is all about medicine and diagnostic side of it. Also, depends on the state you work in the NP can work without a doctor and have full a Autonomy! A PA will always need a doctor to sign off on there work.
This is so crazy. I’ve always been pro NP, but after learning about the loss of lateral mobility.... it’s a no for me. I’m enjoying learning the medical model.
It seems like the skill sets of a PA can vary a lot; so I'm wondering how responsibilities are assigned when you're starting a new post. Are there instances in the ER where you are expected to know/do things that are unfamiliar? Also, how easy is it to expand your expertise while juggling job responsibilities? Do you learn on the job through shadowing?
Helpful and informative video. Thankyou Kaynen. Currently a senior in highschool and sophomore taking nursing school pre reqs at EWU thanks to running start!
I am changing careers from PT to a PA. I completed a rigorous, full time academic program where I earned my doctor of physical therapy degree in 2013. I’ve been a licensed PT since then. Prior to graduate school, I had poor scores in my undergraduate sciences. Do schools take graduate transcripts into consideration?
I am torn between NP or PA, I hate that the NP programs are so focused and specialized and I don't like the nursing theory crap. The downside is that PA school may prevent working, and I am single so that would be a no go. I am a paramedic and BSN, RN, so for now that's all I will be. Master's degree in the future though!
how would PA school prevent working? you mean you wouldnt be able to have a part time job for those two years? yeah its true. you will probably come out with some debt in the end if you haven't saved a nest-egg for it. If you do come out with debt, its all good. just look at it as an investment. it will pay off im sure!
@@ross4452 nope, I live in an expensive part of the US, and could not afford to work part time and pay the mortgage and other bills. It's honestly nearly impossible to do, even in a lower cost area if you are single and the only income. If I lived with a parentr it would be a different story, but I am way to old for that.
I feel like he was a bit rude, looking at his cellular phone and kinda not making eye contact. That’s not that professional, but I enjoyed this interview.
can't speak about other countries, but in the US, they are... most podiatry schools do didactic learning side by side with medical students during preclinical years, they also do general hospital rotations during clinical years (although 4th year is more podiatry focused), and after graduation podiatric students also do 4 year residencies afterwards just like regular physicians. so the education is extremely similar.
Switching specialities is cool and all... but how often are you gona switch is the question... doesn't look good that you cant stay in one field.. lets says ED to all of a sudden GYN... then derm....? No bueno
Tochi Uchenna yeah but atleast the career even has the type of flexibility to switch specialties whenever u like is a huge plus. You can switch to whatever fits ur personality and desires. And it doesn’t matter if switching looks good or not-once ur a PA-C, it’s ur choice what u wanna do and when u wanna switch.
I disagree. As long as they are knowledgeable in each and able to practice good medicine in each then there’s no issue. When you are in the medical field there is so much knowledge that is across the board the same. Anatomy and physiology and pathology and patient care etc. From there you learn more specific topics that’s all. :)
I think the ability to switch specialities is one of the best parts. A person doesn’t need to switch all the time, but to be able to explore and see what you like and don’t like is huge. You can even work more than one specialty at a time. Obviously switching jobs too often isn’t going to look good in any career, but other than that, it would definitely prevent burnout. Doctors are pretty much stuck in their speciality unless they want another residency, so their burnout would be much quicker. They’re doing the same thing their entire career, unlike pa’s
@@kaynenbrown5102 at around 6min and 59seconds into the video he was still explaining the cons of the job and it cuts him off and goes to the pros of the job.
Just watched it. The next thing that was said was “income, annnnnnd, well it really just depends on the person because I feel that’s the only con”...I did not feel the need to add this portion in the video.
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This PA seems like he knows his s***. Would allow him to treat me. 👌🏼
Its crazy how i saw you become a RN, now wanting to become a PA. Yay!! lol... im pre PA right now in undergrad
Noelly Abreu Haha Thank youuuu
Definitely go PA and not RN, I am an RN and it SUCKS! I hate it!!
Betty Smith I’m CNA going for RN and PA or MD I think PA would be better since you can switch to specialty I like that choice.
Betty Smith why do you hate it 😭
@@thejasosei patients and their families can be so nasty, unreasonable, and demmamdimtg (not all of them of course). Hospitals are chronically short staffed and expecting nurses to take an unsafe patient load, and the list goes on.
Excellent interview! The PAs freedom to move to any specialty is so cool
Like he said Flexibility in the specialty! That is such a huge component of job satisfaction. Good video guys!
Crosby Steen, MSN, RN Thank you Crosby:)
The first 3 questions were hard to watch. Your guest is great, and gracious to give you his time. Listen to his answers and respond to them. You have nothing but your next question in your mind when he is giving thoughtful answers. Listen and respond! Actually care about what he is saying.
RonnygoBOOM exactly what I was thinking the whole way through
This is great constructive criticism! The way you interview someone shows how you interact in daily conversations.
Just a tip, a lot of schools don’t accept some of the examples he provided as healthcare experience. For example a lot of schools I’ve looked at will not accept medical interpreter/ scribe as experience. Most schools want patient care not just healthcare interaction. Be sure to look at the schools you want to apply to for all pre reqs.
Michael Forrester Yup!
Great point! Just like the prerequs, this will vary from school to school, so do your research in advance!
Michael Forrester That's a VERY good and IMPORTANT point Michael!😊👍🏽I've seen pre-PA students waste a whole year or two working as scribes or lab techs only to have that time NOT counted as direct-patient-contact-hours.☹😭😣
I'm a PA-S2 and there are several students in my class who were scribes and had no problems. I myself did EMS for 6 years. Definitely contact the schools you're looking at applying to and confirm what they want.
Not totally true. Almost every PA program I’ve researched (literally dozens) take scribe hours at full rate, right alongside EMTs, MAs, CNA, etc.
This video is awesome! I have an interview for a PA program in New York in 2 days and this video gave me a better understanding of a real-life PA experience in the ER! Thanks guys!!!
yerin Kwak you’re welcome:)
I got accepted to the program right after my interview!! This is so unreal! Thanks 🙏🏼
yerin Kwak hahahaha wow!!
yerin Kwak that is SOOO good!! which program?
I know I'm late to the comment, but are you still in the program? If so, how is it?
This video sealed the deal for me, switching out of civil engineering and preparing for PA school, THANK YOU!!!!!
Graduating nursing school in December and I think you might have just convinced me to go in PA school rather than NP school
NP is heavily tainted by diploma mills and going on the nursing model not medical model
Peace be to you BOTH! This was a WONDERFUL interview Kaynen! It made me even MORE grateful for being a PA! Do you know how many PA s work at your hospital!🤔
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C Thank you Dr. Omar! I’m not sure of any PA’s the work on the floors in my hospital, but in the ER there are at least 20-30 that are contracted.
Omar Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C how do I contact you
Can you be my mentor😂
Am a bit lost
Whoah you’re still actually making medical videos! sick.
about to start on my BSN, wish me luck
someone living :) Good luck!!!!
Listened to this when it first came out. Feel like I can appreciate much more now that I’m finishing nursing school 😎🙂
Good video
So awesome to see you growing man
I literally watched you in nursing school then graduate and now PA school pretty much
Awesome
Thanks for sharing that experience with us.
ease tres Haha one of the original followers:). Thank you so much!
Let’s be real, he love him some feet lol
logick3 haha, was thinking the same thing! 😂
This made me LOL
Right! “I had my own reasons...”
it's interesting that NPs have the autonomy to practice independently from a physician even tho PAs have the more medicine-focused education and longer schooling
I believe its due to the affordable care act creating a larger need for physicians so lawmakers decided to make nps doctor lites
4:30 I feel the main difference is education as well. A Nurse will always treat like a Nurse. They’re trained to care for the person which makes them great. And PAs are great because they learn the technical stuff and their education is closer to what doctors learn. It’s like Physicists working with an engineer. They feed off of each other and make a beautiful team 😊
Also this video was extremely informative, thank you.
You've gone so far bro! 🙏
Charles Grey ☺️☺️
Awesome interview. You did a great job asking pertinent questions.
Thank you! You helped me draw closer to my desire to start out as an ER PA. I'm currently halfway through my clinical year as a PA and thinking about Orthopedic or ER.
Any updates on what you ended up choosing?
@@Cloverja878 yeah! I found that I like procedures the most and now work on a multi-specialty surgery team with first assist, pre and post op care. Been there >6 months and loving it! Also, I just couldn't find an ER who would take a new grad 🤷, but I'm where I belong 😁
I truly enjoyed this video. Im starting ny second degree in nursing this fall. Im truly excited. My ultimate goal is a mid level provider so this definitely gave me more insight to help make a better decision once i get to that point. Thank you!
The difference between the two is easy. Nurses or NP heals or look at the body as a whole. The PA is all about medicine and diagnostic side of it.
Also, depends on the state you work in the NP can work without a doctor and have full a Autonomy! A PA will always need a doctor to sign off on there work.
Nurse Brandon This is very true.
I work with an Np who still consults with the MD especially in ER it’s a team approach to have the best outcome for the patient. I am a PA btw
Thank you for this; I intend to apply for a PA program after I finish up my current graduate program in two years. Already so excited!!
This was very helpful thank you. currently in my final semester (RN), and had thoughts about PA school so.
Great interview! It will surely answer many questions out there. Great job!
Very nice and insightful video. Thank you kaynen !
Juan Serrano You’re welcome Juan!
This is a great interview! Thank you!! 🙏🙏
You’re welcome!!:)
This is so crazy. I’ve always been pro NP, but after learning about the loss of lateral mobility.... it’s a no for me. I’m enjoying learning the medical model.
It seems like the skill sets of a PA can vary a lot; so I'm wondering how responsibilities are assigned when you're starting a new post.
Are there instances in the ER where you are expected to know/do things that are unfamiliar? Also, how easy is it to expand your expertise while juggling job responsibilities? Do you learn on the job through shadowing?
Love our ER PAs! Great video, thanks for sharing!
Are you from San Diego? That’s my city. I live out of state now so the hat made me happy. Lol
Hes from Washington but lives in Las Vegas
Very eye opening. Flexibility will help out a lot. You're gonna do great bro.
AlexEKL Thank you:)
Helpful and informative video. Thankyou Kaynen. Currently a senior in highschool and sophomore taking nursing school pre reqs at EWU thanks to running start!
Aidan McCrum No problem, good luck with college:) Is EWU in Washington state?
Yeah it is just outside of Spokane Washington.
Aidan McCrum Haha the red field!! I’m from the tri cities. So I have been to your campus.
Oh so cool, that is where I race in XC for state at the Pasco golf course! Small world 😂
Thank your sir! Very insightful video, greatly appreciate it.
Thanks for the video! Very informative
ExecutionBryan you’re welcome!
I am changing careers from PT to a PA. I completed a rigorous, full time academic program where I earned my doctor of physical therapy degree in 2013. I’ve been a licensed PT since then. Prior to graduate school, I had poor scores in my undergraduate sciences. Do schools take graduate transcripts into consideration?
Claudian Davis hey, they will take them into consideration yes!!
Kaynen Brown thank you!
What influenced your switch from PT to PA?
I see that PA schools discourage working while in the program. What if you’re working as an RN?
This helped so much! Thank you
this helped so much!
This is so helpful!!!
Great video!
A Rob Thank you!
Great questions and answers 👍
I am torn between NP or PA, I hate that the NP programs are so focused and specialized and I don't like the nursing theory crap. The downside is that PA school may prevent working, and I am single so that would be a no go. I am a paramedic and BSN, RN, so for now that's all I will be. Master's degree in the future though!
how would PA school prevent working? you mean you wouldnt be able to have a part time job for those two years? yeah its true. you will probably come out with some debt in the end if you haven't saved a nest-egg for it. If you do come out with debt, its all good. just look at it as an investment. it will pay off im sure!
@@ross4452 nope, I live in an expensive part of the US, and could not afford to work part time and pay the mortgage and other bills. It's honestly nearly impossible to do, even in a lower cost area if you are single and the only income. If I lived with a parentr it would be a different story, but I am way to old for that.
Any general/specifics regarding pay for PA's working in Emergency Medicine?
Great video! Thank you!!!
good video man
Thank you!
I feel like he was a bit rude, looking at his cellular phone and kinda not making eye contact. That’s not that professional, but I enjoyed this interview.
He was reading the questions.
Great video.
Great video 👌
Kaynen, what do you use for a recording device?
I used a G7x mark 2
Podiatry and Medical education are not 80-90% similar.
can't speak about other countries, but in the US, they are... most podiatry schools do didactic learning side by side with medical students during preclinical years, they also do general hospital rotations during clinical years (although 4th year is more podiatry focused), and after graduation podiatric students also do 4 year residencies afterwards just like regular physicians. so the education is extremely similar.
So are you going back to school for your pa pre courses
eduardo santos already finished them. I did them during undergrad summers.
Super helpful
@Kaynen Brown - so I can do a bachelors in nursing and then how much schooling from there to be a PA? 2 years? Is that clinicals included?
I’m pretty sure that PA school is usually 2-3 years depending on the program
How did you learn spanish?
How old is ben?
Yayy Areaa 37
Switching specialities is cool and all... but how often are you gona switch is the question... doesn't look good that you cant stay in one field.. lets says ED to all of a sudden GYN... then derm....? No bueno
Tochi Uchenna yeah but atleast the career even has the type of flexibility to switch specialties whenever u like is a huge plus. You can switch to whatever fits ur personality and desires. And it doesn’t matter if switching looks good or not-once ur a PA-C, it’s ur choice what u wanna do and when u wanna switch.
I disagree. As long as they are knowledgeable in each and able to practice good medicine in each then there’s no issue. When you are in the medical field there is so much knowledge that is across the board the same. Anatomy and physiology and pathology and patient care etc. From there you learn more specific topics that’s all. :)
I think the ability to switch specialities is one of the best parts. A person doesn’t need to switch all the time, but to be able to explore and see what you like and don’t like is huge. You can even work more than one specialty at a time. Obviously switching jobs too often isn’t going to look good in any career, but other than that, it would definitely prevent burnout. Doctors are pretty much stuck in their speciality unless they want another residency, so their burnout would be much quicker. They’re doing the same thing their entire career, unlike pa’s
Why don't NP's has the ability to switch specialties so seamlessly?
They can....it depends on your field. FNPs are one of the most flexible careers.
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Do PAs give orders?
Nice video
flexibility my boyyyy. Where do I follow this guy
Kaynen fine as hell
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With all do respect, it’s not a great interviewing skill to spend more time looking at your questions than engaging with the interviewee.
The rest of the downsides were edited out lol how come?
What?
@@kaynenbrown5102 at around 6min and 59seconds into the video he was still explaining the cons of the job and it cuts him off and goes to the pros of the job.
Just watched it. The next thing that was said was “income, annnnnnd, well it really just depends on the person because I feel that’s the only con”...I did not feel the need to add this portion in the video.
@@kaynenbrown5102 Ok i see. Appreciate the clarification!
another question should’ve been how was the experience at urgent care & family medicine versus the emergency room
Very informative video, thank you!
You’re welcome 😊