I think the biggest factor is that people don’t realize Ellie did not “change”, she was acting out of pure trauma. She had immense PTSD. Do you expect her to make a joke every few minutes? There are more than enough hints to show that Ellie is still Ellie down there. She is still that selfless, loyal, space loving girl full of life. Ellie is one of the best developed characters in gaming. She might not be that that little girl from Part 1 or even Jackson, but she’s become a matured young woman, and that is what really resonated with me. Seeing how much shit she goes through but how much it made her grow. She did not want to leave the farm, but she HAD to. She wanted the pain and hurting to stop. Her trauma had manifested into a deep depression. We read in her journal how she can’t talk about any of it because it feels like poison. In her PTSD episode she hears Joel calling out her name. She feels guilty for his death, while already suffering from survivor’s guilt. Much of her mental state is carried over from Part 1. Think of the scene in Part 1 where she wants to talk to Joel about Sam’s grave... and Joel hits her with a hard “NO, things happen and we move on!” And she replies with “you’re right, I’m sorry.” This is just another piece of psychological baggage she carries. A big theme of the game is how people cope with trauma and grief. Dina had her religion for example, which gives her strength. Ellie didn’t have that. She writes how she doesn’t know how Dina is able to talk about Jesse like that to JJ. This is what Ellie means when she says to Dina “I’m not like you”. I think a large issue is just the utter brutality of Joel’s death that didn’t help her move on. She was pinned down while begging them to stop. You need therapy for that and it’s a miracle that Ellie was able to process it in a year (but she went through hell for it, but still she did it). She did not leave for revenge. She went to SB to confront her trauma, and either overcome it or die. If she stayed, it was wait and die. But she decided to go and fight for a chance of life. For a chance to be able to live a life and a chance at a relationship and life like that on the farm. It was purely out of self-preservation. But what is interesting to note is this shows that sometime after Seattle, she had a change in perspective. She now did value her life, because she decided to fight for it, rather than whither away and die on that farm. Before she did not value her life (because her life’s value was gone after the cure was gone), which is why she was so self-destructive. Here it was a flip. She does value it and she WANTS to live. She left with the goal to fix herself and she thought killing Abby would achieve this, but it was not for revenge. Even Ellie didn’t know what to do when she found her. She cuts her down and walks away. Now we can go into a big talk on what the flashback meant, but the point is she had her cathartic moment in the water without having to kill Abby. Her goal was fixing herself, not killing Abby. She was able to overpower her emotions of rage and let Abby go. As she sat there alone and crying, letting out her emotions, mountains were taken off her shoulders.
Wow this is brilliant! It really changes my point of view about the ending of the game. I always thought it was kind of sudden that she let go of strangling Abbey when she was so close to what I only assumed her goal was. But this changed my perspective so much! Thanks a lot!!!!!
@TimIsKewl believe me I could write a novel on this. This could’ve been MUCH longer lol. Actually I will add to it brb. Edit: Below are some further info on Ellie’s mindset in Seattle and the epilogue
Ellie went to Seattle because of anger and self-hatred towards herself for shunning Joel all those years and that the SLC took away her chance to forgive things. This guilt is what drove her to do this. She can't make things right with him anymore, so she feels obliged to make things right the only way she can now, in bringing justice to his killers... "because that's what Joel would've done". But you are not Joel, Ellie. Her self-destructive tendencies was because she thought her life's purpose and meaning was for this cure, which was taken away, therefore her life no longer has any value. To add, this was yet again another case of her autonomy being taken away (in being able for forgive Joel). It was never about retribution (that was Abby’s revenge journey), it was about (the avoidance of) grief. She thought this was the way for her to move on... But in reality she concentrated on this revenge quest because it allowed her to blame someone else for her problems, the same way she blamed Joel for her problems. In doing so it allowed her to not confront the emotions of her grief, just like blaming her fate on Joel allowed her to not confront her survivor guilt. Seattle was cognitive dissonance in full force. Ellie is a good person doing bad things. She feels she HAS to do it for Joel, to do right by him. We see how much these things hurt her because it isn't who she is, isn't what she wants, but is compelled to proceed, "for Joel". She tries to emulate him, but she is not Joel. It was a girl who was broken, a blip on her path of life that set her off her true path and made her do things that isn’t who she is. How her torture of Nora was an involuntary reenactment of her trauma from a power position, how Owen and Mel was another attempt at mimicking Joel but she is not Joel. She was never a person to kill or hurt outside of self defense. In her journal you constantly see her thoughts/entries either show how conflicted she is or contradict her actions. Look at her after Nora… She did not want to do what she did, but forces herself to. In Part 2, Ellie is slowly losing her humanity, action by action, but the key is hasn’t lost it, not yet. Through a great loss of a loved one, like Joel and Abby, she was on that path of losing it. The same path both Joel and Abby went, and they had both by the time we play them, lost their humanity and as we play them regain it. Ellie’s is a flip. We are losing her humanity. But even when she tortured Nora she still had her humanity. Even when she left Jesse to hunt Abby in the aquarium. Even when she held the knife to Lev's throat she had it, but at that point she was staring off the edge in those shallow waters of Santa Barbara, and this was a defining moment for her. (But she had to do it because she otherwise Abby would not have fought. She needed this. Abby’s calm “okay” was Abby taking responsibility that she had ruined Ellie’s life, and that she will either have to put Ellie out of her misery, or die for her sins.) Neil said a McKee quote on Ellie in that "the more pressure you apply to a character, the harder the choice they have to make, the more they reveal their true character". There are 4 instances I believe where we see Ellie come out: After Nora (where she had a reenactment of her trauma from a power position) that left her deeply traumatized, Mel where she broke down, when she selflessly gave herself up to Abby so that she lets Tommy go, and at the beach. These are the moments where we see Ellie's true character come out, as an emotionally compromised and emotionally vulnerable young woman. On that beach, it was a defining moment for Ellie who she really is deep down. She was at absolute rock bottom after gone through hell, with every form of emotion flushing out, with the person who was the root of all her trauma under her fingertips, where she finally had her catharsis and had the strength to let her go. She only sought to kill Abby because she felt she had to and not because she wanted to. Her realizing this, and deciding to make her own decisions right at the precipice, shows a lot of strength for her. She stopped fighting Joel's death and learned she needs to embrace it, and accept it. His death was the ultimate proof of his love. "Go.. take him" was her accepting it. Ellie was acting how she did was because of her trauma. This is what people fail to realize, or fail to realize the extent of it. The song Future Days was Ellie's song. It was about Ellie, who had lost herself after losing Joel. Ellie is a good soul and a good person, who had lost herself after losing the most important person she had, but found herself before it was too late.
@@justinrodriguez8352 maybe...we don’t see a lot of her at the end, to me, the fact that she decides to spare Abby & leave Joel’s guitar behind shows she’s ready to accept his death and begin to move on. So it could mean there’s still some of that nature in her. Heartbreaking as the ending is, there is a glimmer of hope.
I think the biggest factor is that people don’t realize Ellie did not “change”, she was acting out of pure trauma. She had immense PTSD. Do you expect her to make a joke every few minutes? There are more than enough hints to show that Ellie is still Ellie down there. She is still that selfless, loyal, space loving girl full of life. Ellie is one of the best developed characters in gaming. She might not be that that little girl from Part 1 or even Jackson, but she’s become a matured young woman, and that is what really resonated with me. Seeing how much shit she goes through but how much it made her grow.
@@T3AMKILL yeah, I didn’t say she “changed” did I? I apologise if I did. She was just so...focused on revenge throughout the plot those qualities didn’t have time to really shine. They did sometimes though, I agree. Especially in Day 1, where she would talk & flirt with Dina. I agree with everything you said here, her journey both in part 1 & 2 is so natural and smooth. Naughty dog did really well with her character.
@@urlittlewindmill shit is emotional 🙄😂👌🏽, I heard that, it could be a possibility they might jump more into the future, to the point where Ellie is Ashley’s age.
There's also a dialogue where Ellie picked up a picture of Dina and her sister,and she said to JJ,"Say hi to your aunt Talia. Hi Talia!" at first I thought JJ said it but turns out it was Ellie😄
A lot of people talk about. Tommy DLC, which is cool and all, but I want a Dina DLC about two trips to Jackson: the one she took with Talia and the one she took with Ellie and Tommy after Seattle. Kinda like with Left Behind, where one part was an important story from the past and the other explained what happened between scenes.
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 It's so hard for me to believe that they managed to survive the trip back, but thinking that they probably found a car after everything the Seraphites and Wolves abandoned isn't too unlikely. That probably gave them time to make some good distance while healing most of their wounds, enough for disabling pain to be the worst of it rather than, you know, completely broken arm and arrowed leg.
@@dslsct1683 mmm yeah but, how old is that baby? 2 years old maybe? He could say some words and short sentences I think. Like the 'hi auntie Talia' line. I'm not that sure if he could say it so clearly tho, anyways.
Happy 1 Year Aniversary The Last of Us: Part II. This game was completely diff. From any other game I have ever played, I have never experienced something like that in my entire Life, Best Game of All Time.
Imagine Naughty Dog being so incompetent, that other than giving us some info about Factions 2, they give us some shitty merch. WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT MERCH?
@@ВладиславБулаев-л3э I wish they made a DLC like Left Behind :/ Continuing from the exact same point where The Last of Us (2013) ended and showing their lives in Jackson when they were new there.
@@youngnat There was a nice amount of Joel and Ellie moments though, enough to tell the story of what happened between them during our absence(players). I don't think anyone wanted a farming simulator in Jackson. I'm happy they didn't make Jackson a base with a massive open world, naughty dogs writing shines when they make linear games with laser focused stories.
I don't believe so. I think she sorta sighs when she enters the house, but other than that I think she doesn't say a word in that last chapter. Just IIRC. I gotta go back to that chapter for something anyway, so I will check.
awww it's been a year now officially!! one whole year and not one day went by without thinking about this game. it impacted me so fucking much man, the game really is an experience and a lesson
There are a few dialogue changes on Seattle Day 1 at the end when Ellie is trying to get the power on. Idk if you've found them yet but you should look for them if you've got the time.
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 no, I mean at the very end in the theatre. There's two distinct dialogue changes iirc. The first one deals with the soldier's belongings in that balcony. There's different dialogue depending on whether or not you go to his tent area before turning the power on or after turning it on. There also might be a slight change with regards to the note that's left there, but I'm not sure. The second one deals with the note on top of the radio. There's a specific line Ellie says about the soldier guy, but where she says it depends on if you find this note before turning the power on or as you go to turn the power on.
Yeah if she picks the note up first and then finds his body she says something about him not being a good electrician but if you find his body first she will say “damn, you get fried(sometimes she’ll also say “better you than me” with that) and then when u pick the note up after she says “hope you were a better soldier than an electrician”😂😂
like really, it's not just a game with zombie, ammo and blood, it's something more. i can explain all my feelings about this game but i don't really want to write about them, bc i think a lot of ppl feel absolutely the same way, so here is no need for explanation. just a masterpiece in game industry
the farm is probably my favorite part of the game honestly and I’m definitely gonna try to get these dialogues when I replay lol. I almost cried when I first played because I was so happy,, Ellie and Dina are so cute and JJ is so adorable 😭 I love this game so much and I’m loving your vids too :))
Hey Caitlin, do you remember the sentence Dina said to Ellie just after Joel's death "You go, i go, end of the story" read it again, you will realize that this really represents the "end of the story" Ellie goes to santa barbara "you go" and so Dina leaves the farm "I go" then it is the "end of the story" sorry if my english is bad
I discovered all that in playthrough two. I was so mad that I had no idea about the tree dialogue lol. Game Is so frustrating missing all the easy stuff! The hat on Joel scene I only figured out because It was a trophy . Missed it 3 playthroughs in a row 😫
I heard "Pretty sure he's on the tractor" when I went back into the kitchen. Didn't hear "Say hey to the sheep JJ" Don't remember "Careful. Bad things are out there." I get "Oof, my back..." all the time
So i learnt if you walk j.j. around inside the house, you get more dialogue. I.e show him the poster in ellies room, then go the bathroom upstairs and look in the mirror, then downstiairs in the next bathroom and look in that mirror too. And the picture of aunt talia, youll get more dialogue there also.
For most of the game it was hard to see ellie as the same girl she was in part 1, but you can see a bit of her here when shes finally found a bit of peace
Omg I've played through the entire game 5 times and explore a lot and haven't even heard these!!! I wonder what else I'm missing? I freaking love this gane so much ❤❤❤
NaughtyDog: "We'll make Dina and Ellie parents on a farm with a baby boy, where no bad things can happen to them because they are safe." *actual* fans: "Well, that might just work actually. But you know what might work better? Having it be a FUCKING *DREAM!!!* "
I love the last of us it's amazing. Just played the second game again the story is legit horrible. They made Joel dumb made us play as a character we hated but they tried to make us like and relate to. Technically it's incredible gameplay is great but how people say it's great or better than the first is beyond me. Not even mad at joels death if it made sense and was done properly... Not hi I'm Joel this is tommy armed strangers I just met.
I remember an apartment in the game, where you can find notes from the neigbours right after the Plague started. And I believe you can see down to the «river» in the streets. Could you do a video about that place?
0:27 I almost fainted. In my opinion, this is the only moment where we can hear his voice. At the same time, this is an optional dialogue, which, I think, many have not even heard. Or is it all the same Ellie herself says, but for JJ, that is, in a squeaky voice? It is unlikely that JJ can still speak at this age. In general, the voice is similar to Ellie.
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I think the biggest factor is that people don’t realize Ellie did not “change”, she was acting out of pure trauma. She had immense PTSD. Do you expect her to make a joke every few minutes? There are more than enough hints to show that Ellie is still Ellie down there. She is still that selfless, loyal, space loving girl full of life. Ellie is one of the best developed characters in gaming. She might not be that that little girl from Part 1 or even Jackson, but she’s become a matured young woman, and that is what really resonated with me. Seeing how much shit she goes through but how much it made her grow.
She did not want to leave the farm, but she HAD to. She wanted the pain and hurting to stop. Her trauma had manifested into a deep depression. We read in her journal how she can’t talk about any of it because it feels like poison. In her PTSD episode she hears Joel calling out her name. She feels guilty for his death, while already suffering from survivor’s guilt.
Much of her mental state is carried over from Part 1. Think of the scene in Part 1 where she wants to talk to Joel about Sam’s grave... and Joel hits her with a hard “NO, things happen and we move on!” And she replies with “you’re right, I’m sorry.”
This is just another piece of psychological baggage she carries. A big theme of the game is how people cope with trauma and grief. Dina had her religion for example, which gives her strength. Ellie didn’t have that. She writes how she doesn’t know how Dina is able to talk about Jesse like that to JJ. This is what Ellie means when she says to Dina “I’m not like you”.
I think a large issue is just the utter brutality of Joel’s death that didn’t help her move on. She was pinned down while begging them to stop. You need therapy for that and it’s a miracle that Ellie was able to process it in a year (but she went through hell for it, but still she did it).
She did not leave for revenge. She went to SB to confront her trauma, and either overcome it or die. If she stayed, it was wait and die. But she decided to go and fight for a chance of life. For a chance to be able to live a life and a chance at a relationship and life like that on the farm. It was purely out of self-preservation.
But what is interesting to note is this shows that sometime after Seattle, she had a change in perspective. She now did value her life, because she decided to fight for it, rather than whither away and die on that farm. Before she did not value her life (because her life’s value was gone after the cure was gone), which is why she was so self-destructive. Here it was a flip. She does value it and she WANTS to live.
She left with the goal to fix herself and she thought killing Abby would achieve this, but it was not for revenge. Even Ellie didn’t know what to do when she found her. She cuts her down and walks away.
Now we can go into a big talk on what the flashback meant, but the point is she had her cathartic moment in the water without having to kill Abby. Her goal was fixing herself, not killing Abby. She was able to overpower her emotions of rage and let Abby go.
As she sat there alone and crying, letting out her emotions, mountains were taken off her shoulders.
I love this!
Wow this is brilliant! It really changes my point of view about the ending of the game. I always thought it was kind of sudden that she let go of strangling Abbey when she was so close to what I only assumed her goal was. But this changed my perspective so much! Thanks a lot!!!!!
@TimIsKewl believe me I could write a novel on this. This could’ve been MUCH longer lol. Actually I will add to it brb. Edit: Below are some further info on Ellie’s mindset in Seattle and the epilogue
Ellie went to Seattle because of anger and self-hatred towards herself for shunning Joel all those years and that the SLC took away her chance to forgive things. This guilt is what drove her to do this. She can't make things right with him anymore, so she feels obliged to make things right the only way she can now, in bringing justice to his killers... "because that's what Joel would've done". But you are not Joel, Ellie. Her self-destructive tendencies was because she thought her life's purpose and meaning was for this cure, which was taken away, therefore her life no longer has any value. To add, this was yet again another case of her autonomy being taken away (in being able for forgive Joel). It was never about retribution (that was Abby’s revenge journey), it was about (the avoidance of) grief. She thought this was the way for her to move on... But in reality she concentrated on this revenge quest because it allowed her to blame someone else for her problems, the same way she blamed Joel for her problems. In doing so it allowed her to not confront the emotions of her grief, just like blaming her fate on Joel allowed her to not confront her survivor guilt.
Seattle was cognitive dissonance in full force. Ellie is a good person doing bad things. She feels she HAS to do it for Joel, to do right by him. We see how much these things hurt her because it isn't who she is, isn't what she wants, but is compelled to proceed, "for Joel". She tries to emulate him, but she is not Joel. It was a girl who was broken, a blip on her path of life that set her off her true path and made her do things that isn’t who she is. How her torture of Nora was an involuntary reenactment of her trauma from a power position, how Owen and Mel was another attempt at mimicking Joel but she is not Joel. She was never a person to kill or hurt outside of self defense. In her journal you constantly see her thoughts/entries either show how conflicted she is or contradict her actions. Look at her after Nora… She did not want to do what she did, but forces herself to.
In Part 2, Ellie is slowly losing her humanity, action by action, but the key is hasn’t lost it, not yet. Through a great loss of a loved one, like Joel and Abby, she was on that path of losing it. The same path both Joel and Abby went, and they had both by the time we play them, lost their humanity and as we play them regain it. Ellie’s is a flip. We are losing her humanity.
But even when she tortured Nora she still had her humanity. Even when she left Jesse to hunt Abby in the aquarium. Even when she held the knife to Lev's throat she had it, but at that point she was staring off the edge in those shallow waters of Santa Barbara, and this was a defining moment for her. (But she had to do it because she otherwise Abby would not have fought. She needed this. Abby’s calm “okay” was Abby taking responsibility that she had ruined Ellie’s life, and that she will either have to put Ellie out of her misery, or die for her sins.)
Neil said a McKee quote on Ellie in that "the more pressure you apply to a character, the harder the choice they have to make, the more they reveal their true character".
There are 4 instances I believe where we see Ellie come out: After Nora (where she had a reenactment of her trauma from a power position) that left her deeply traumatized, Mel where she broke down, when she selflessly gave herself up to Abby so that she lets Tommy go, and at the beach. These are the moments where we see Ellie's true character come out, as an emotionally compromised and emotionally vulnerable young woman. On that beach, it was a defining moment for Ellie who she really is deep down. She was at absolute rock bottom after gone through hell, with every form of emotion flushing out, with the person who was the root of all her trauma under her fingertips, where she finally had her catharsis and had the strength to let her go. She only sought to kill Abby because she felt she had to and not because she wanted to. Her realizing this, and deciding to make her own decisions right at the precipice, shows a lot of strength for her.
She stopped fighting Joel's death and learned she needs to embrace it, and accept it. His death was the ultimate proof of his love. "Go.. take him" was her accepting it.
Ellie was acting how she did was because of her trauma. This is what people fail to realize, or fail to realize the extent of it. The song Future Days was Ellie's song. It was about Ellie, who had lost herself after losing Joel. Ellie is a good soul and a good person, who had lost herself after losing the most important person she had, but found herself before it was too late.
@TimIsKewl I’ll do one more on the ending then I should have all the bases covered
I love how this part shows that, despite what she’s gone through, Ellie still has her goofy almost childish side that we saw in part 1.
It’s gone now. By the end.
@@justinrodriguez8352 maybe...we don’t see a lot of her at the end, to me, the fact that she decides to spare Abby & leave Joel’s guitar behind shows she’s ready to accept his death and begin to move on. So it could mean there’s still some of that nature in her. Heartbreaking as the ending is, there is a glimmer of hope.
I think the biggest factor is that people don’t realize Ellie did not “change”, she was acting out of pure trauma. She had immense PTSD. Do you expect her to make a joke every few minutes? There are more than enough hints to show that Ellie is still Ellie down there. She is still that selfless, loyal, space loving girl full of life. Ellie is one of the best developed characters in gaming. She might not be that that little girl from Part 1 or even Jackson, but she’s become a matured young woman, and that is what really resonated with me. Seeing how much shit she goes through but how much it made her grow.
@@T3AMKILL yeah, I didn’t say she “changed” did I? I apologise if I did. She was just so...focused on revenge throughout the plot those qualities didn’t have time to really shine. They did sometimes though, I agree. Especially in Day 1, where she would talk & flirt with Dina. I agree with everything you said here, her journey both in part 1 & 2 is so natural and smooth. Naughty dog did really well with her character.
@@urlittlewindmill shit is emotional 🙄😂👌🏽, I heard that, it could be a possibility they might jump more into the future, to the point where Ellie is Ashley’s age.
"The bad things are out there" is a sad one, since the rest of the sequence shows the bad things are always in Ellie's head, wherever she goes.
There's also a dialogue where Ellie picked up a picture of Dina and her sister,and she said to JJ,"Say hi to your aunt Talia. Hi Talia!" at first I thought JJ said it but turns out it was Ellie😄
A lot of people talk about. Tommy DLC, which is cool and all, but I want a Dina DLC about two trips to Jackson: the one she took with Talia and the one she took with Ellie and Tommy after Seattle. Kinda like with Left Behind, where one part was an important story from the past and the other explained what happened between scenes.
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5
It's so hard for me to believe that they managed to survive the trip back, but thinking that they probably found a car after everything the Seraphites and Wolves abandoned isn't too unlikely. That probably gave them time to make some good distance while healing most of their wounds, enough for disabling pain to be the worst of it rather than, you know, completely broken arm and arrowed leg.
@@lum26akua28 and bullet to the eye socket xD
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 WAIT TOMMY DLC WHEN
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 YESSSS a Dina DLC would be everything
Ellie’s little “hey sheep!!” killeddd me never seen that one before, how cute!!✨😭
Yes, it was really cuuute🥺
@@dslsct1683 mmm yeah but, how old is that baby? 2 years old maybe? He could say some words and short sentences I think. Like the 'hi auntie Talia' line. I'm not that sure if he could say it so clearly tho, anyways.
@@ulisesdiale4004 years what?
@@hx20games77 it's my impression, basing on the fact he can talk a little. I have no idea if Naughty Dog revealed his age.
@@dslsct1683 Me too, I'm just now here realizing that Ellie said these words not JJ.
I had to watch it 5 times to realize it wasn't JJ saying "hey sheep"
OMG HAHAHAHAAHAH
Yes, I think it was him, it was Ellie herself for JJ.
Happy 1 Year Aniversary The Last of Us: Part II. This game was completely diff. From any other game I have ever played, I have never experienced something like that in my entire Life, Best Game of All Time.
Imagine Naughty Dog being so incompetent, that other than giving us some info about Factions 2, they give us some shitty merch. WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT MERCH?
@@ВладиславБулаев-л3э I wish they made a DLC like Left Behind :/ Continuing from the exact same point where The Last of Us (2013) ended and showing their lives in Jackson when they were new there.
@@KVSGamer right, game’s great but needed more Ellie and Joel moments to feel like LOU.
@@youngnat There was a nice amount of Joel and Ellie moments though, enough to tell the story of what happened between them during our absence(players). I don't think anyone wanted a farming simulator in Jackson. I'm happy they didn't make Jackson a base with a massive open world, naughty dogs writing shines when they make linear games with laser focused stories.
The farm is one of my favorites parts of the game
It my favourite until the panic attack Ellie suffers. That has to be the most haunting scene in the game
@@kylemaljevac5482 and the wlfs torturing the naked dude
@@kylemaljevac5482 nah Manny bragging about all the girls he slept with
Happy one-year anniversary Last of Us 2. You changed the way I see storytelling and I'm still discovering new things about you every day.
Man, has it already been a year? 😔
when dina leaves the house, does ellie have any dialogues when she goes into any specific room?
I don't believe so. I think she sorta sighs when she enters the house, but other than that I think she doesn't say a word in that last chapter. Just IIRC. I gotta go back to that chapter for something anyway, so I will check.
I didnt get any at all. Only until you reach her room but i could be wrong. Waiting on that vid
As much as everybody hated on part ll, I personally loved it. I hope they do make a part lll.
This part of the Game is so Beautiful
I love just hanging out there haha
It is very much so, however I cant shake the thought that they never once mentioned jj's dad they pretty much just forgotten him.
@@guardianpeacekeeper2050 not true
awww it's been a year now officially!! one whole year and not one day went by without thinking about this game. it impacted me so fucking much man, the game really is an experience and a lesson
Bro that name 😂😂😂
Why does the first dialogue remembers me of Attack on Titan LOL
There are a few dialogue changes on Seattle Day 1 at the end when Ellie is trying to get the power on. Idk if you've found them yet but you should look for them if you've got the time.
You mean for the Fuck Fedra gate?
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 no, I mean at the very end in the theatre. There's two distinct dialogue changes iirc.
The first one deals with the soldier's belongings in that balcony. There's different dialogue depending on whether or not you go to his tent area before turning the power on or after turning it on. There also might be a slight change with regards to the note that's left there, but I'm not sure.
The second one deals with the note on top of the radio. There's a specific line Ellie says about the soldier guy, but where she says it depends on if you find this note before turning the power on or as you go to turn the power on.
@@tristinmckinstry6467 oh yeah! I have seen that before and I love that little detail!
Yeah if she picks the note up first and then finds his body she says something about him not being a good electrician but if you find his body first she will say “damn, you get fried(sometimes she’ll also say “better you than me” with that) and then when u pick the note up after she says “hope you were a better soldier than an electrician”😂😂
happy 1 year to tlou 2!! such an amazing -game- story
like really, it's not just a game with zombie, ammo and blood, it's something more. i can explain all my feelings about this game but i don't really want to write about them, bc i think a lot of ppl feel absolutely the same way, so here is no need for explanation. just a masterpiece in game industry
iirc there's also extra dialogue from Dina if you linger too long after she tells you to put on some music. Eventually she's like, "Go, woman!"
Yep! I actually have that in another video I am working on...
I love love love how Crooked Still plays in the background its so beautiful
Give her this in Part 3!!!!
the farm is probably my favorite part of the game honestly and I’m definitely gonna try to get these dialogues when I replay lol. I almost cried when I first played because I was so happy,, Ellie and Dina are so cute and JJ is so adorable 😭 I love this game so much and I’m loving your vids too :))
Hey Caitlin, do you remember the sentence Dina said to Ellie just after Joel's death "You go, i go, end of the story" read it again, you will realize that this really represents the "end of the story" Ellie goes to santa barbara "you go" and so Dina leaves the farm "I go" then it is the "end of the story"
sorry if my english is bad
Ohhhh, jeez that is good!
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 thanks :)
Que precioso se escuchó 😍💖. Ellie is so cute
0:27
the beat that is playing while she is outside is one of the most best beats on the game with the guitar playing I love some of the Last Of Us music
Same!
I discovered all that in playthrough two. I was so mad that I had no idea about the tree dialogue lol. Game Is so frustrating missing all the easy stuff! The hat on Joel scene I only figured out because It was a trophy . Missed it 3 playthroughs in a row 😫
“Hey sheep” can’t lie you got me in the first half 😂
I heard "Pretty sure he's on the tractor" when I went back into the kitchen.
Didn't hear "Say hey to the sheep JJ"
Don't remember "Careful. Bad things are out there."
I get "Oof, my back..." all the time
I heard all those rare dialogue. Btw I finished TLOU2 about 5 times:)
Wow I didn’t even know this there’s so much small details in this game it’s amazing
This game made me not move on with my life. Such a bittersweet beautiful ending❤️😭
So i learnt if you walk j.j. around inside the house, you get more dialogue. I.e show him the poster in ellies room, then go the bathroom upstairs and look in the mirror, then downstiairs in the next bathroom and look in that mirror too. And the picture of aunt talia, youll get more dialogue there also.
Happy 1 year anniversary Part 2!!!
For most of the game it was hard to see ellie as the same girl she was in part 1, but you can see a bit of her here when shes finally found a bit of peace
I swear this channel is the best thing to happen to RUclips. Keep it up ✌👍
"Hey sheep!"
THAT'S SO FLIPPING CUTE
fuck this game i played 5 times still learning new things
I wish I could play this game((
About to check it out cool
Omg I've played through the entire game 5 times and explore a lot and haven't even heard these!!! I wonder what else I'm missing? I freaking love this gane so much ❤❤❤
I only found out this at the third playthrough
Happy one year anniversary for this amazing game 🥳
What amaze me more is how ND managed to not only made all of this hidden dialogues, but also how they did it in a way that feels natural
if i knew there was gonna be extra dialogue i would’ve explored every single bit of the farm area lol
NaughtyDog: "We'll make Dina and Ellie parents on a farm with a baby boy, where no bad things can happen to them because they are safe."
*actual* fans: "Well, that might just work actually. But you know what might work better?
Having it be a FUCKING *DREAM!!!* "
Question of the Day: is Dina bae?
YES
First time i tought ollie was dog or something
One cool thing you can do is wait for the record player to finish, the needle goes all the way round and I think they have some dialogue after that!
Really???
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 yeah give it a go! it takes about 15 mins or so but you can wait for it to fully stop playing :)
That "hey sheep" was so cute 🥺
Ellie will also touch the wind chimes on the porch if you walk by with jj
Yep! Once I found that out, I do it every time.
Naughty Dog are the gods of gaming
If you take a really long time to turn on the music after Dina asks, she'll yell "Hey! Woman!"
OMG, I've played this game 3 times but I never found these rare dialogues,"Hey sheep"in kid's voice sooooo cute! 😭
"The bad things are out there" just gave me straight up chills
Dina is Bae Productions might actually become a company in the TLOU universe because of you
that's why she left at the end, to pursue her career :)
Man, just hearing that music out of the blue like that makes me sad 😢
The first two dialogue I get on my Permadeath gameplay hahaha
is that a different tune playing in the living room? also, happy one year anniversary to this awesome game!!
That whole Crooked Still record will play if you sit there long enough!
nice there are dialoges in every place of the house you go to !
i like it !!
continue making these awesome videos :))))
The sweetest moment on tlou
now i just want to know, what do u think of tlou2 story ? bad or good ?
Good! Very heavy but good.
1 year hev passed...and im still finding out new things in this game
dina is so me back pain at 20
i love ellie and dina and ofc jj
"And that's when Tommy came in"
Greatest game ever
How does the talk my cousin is 1 he can’t talk yet
No that is Ellie doing a voice for the baby.
I love the last of us it's amazing. Just played the second game again the story is legit horrible. They made Joel dumb made us play as a character we hated but they tried to make us like and relate to. Technically it's incredible gameplay is great but how people say it's great or better than the first is beyond me. Not even mad at joels death if it made sense and was done properly... Not hi I'm Joel this is tommy armed strangers I just met.
i never realized that one of the songs that plays is the same one at the party when ellie and dina kissed.
Yep, that whole album will play, actually!
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 cool
Huhuhuhu
Amzing
I remember an apartment in the game, where you can find notes from the neigbours right after the Plague started. And I believe you can see down to the «river» in the streets. Could you do a video about that place?
I did! ruclips.net/video/-fZcY3ulcgU/видео.html
this part of the game was super short but it was so nice
Interesting never heard this dialogue before
I dont know if this is rare but if you wait long enough on the tractor with JJ you can hear Ellie call JJ her little potato
dope
Noice
Sup dude
don't know why she stayed with Dina. She was used by her then again she left her in the end
0:03 Me when I’m about leave my house when its quarantine .
Hey sheep!
for the last of us part 3 I want to play as young teenage jj
As long as he survives!
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 exactly
Ellie is a good mom, until she left
Do you know about the tree interaction?
Carving JJ's initials?
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 yep! It took me my third or fourth play through to find it lol
He's a big ball of muscle:)
this was the ellie I missed so much
The baby is super cute
This was adorable 😭
Imma try this
"My back" dina sounding like a grandma lol
or spider man
huhuhuh
Ellie is such a tragic character
She's left alone the biggest thing she feared
PLEASE MAKE ALL THE WAYS ELLIE DIES TO ABBY
No
Not at all
Hey Caitlin....what's your real name...?
Abby Anderson
@@CaitlinramblesonthePS5 :o OMG!!! lol
Big chungus
It kinda hurts knowing all these cool little pieces of dialogue and hidden details when the story wasn’t great 🙁
0:27 I almost fainted. In my opinion, this is the only moment where we can hear his voice. At the same time, this is an optional dialogue, which, I think, many have not even heard. Or is it all the same Ellie herself says, but for JJ, that is, in a squeaky voice? It is unlikely that JJ can still speak at this age. In general, the voice is similar to Ellie.
I believe is Ellie who says that, that's why sounds like Ellie and that's why “JJ can speak" at such a young age.
@@lex5813 Yes, I've already figured it all out for myself.