Medicine’s Response to the Changing Science on Fluoride Safety
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- Опубликовано: 7 май 2024
- Ironically, the anti-fluoridationists had historically been accused of their "anti-scientific attitudes," but now it’s many of the pro-fluoridationists. How did the medical and dental community react to U.S. regulators’ total 180 over water fluoridation, going from presumptively safe to presumptively dangerous?
We can get the best of both worlds with topical application of fluoride, so I continue to advocate for the use of fluoride toothpaste, but pregnant and breastfeeding women may want to consider non-fluoridated water sources to reduce the apparent risk to the developing brain.
This is the final video in my series on water fluoridation. If you missed any of the others, see:
• Why Is There Fluoride in Water? Is It Effective? (nutritionfacts.org/video/why-...)
• Side Effects of Water Fluoridation: Dental Fluorosis (nutritionfacts.org/video/side...)
• Is Water Fluoridation Safe? (nutritionfacts.org/video/is-w...)
• Why I Changed My Mind on Water Fluoridation (nutritionfacts.org/video/why-...)
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Maybe they have a different agenda, as in , we'll u know like u do ! 💝
Other countries stopped fluoridating their water decades ago. There are many years worth of science of the harms of fluoridated water.
Big of you to update your view on this, Doc. I wish other scientists would do the same when it comes to these developments.
What's the effect on microbes from fluoride?
How does guzzling loads of fluoridated water affect our microbiomes?
Another video needed, please:
How fluoride disrupts the nitric oxide cycle, adversely affecting cardiovascular health.
Will likely take a decade or more to see Fluoride removed from municipal water here in the States.
Not necessarily. It's already occurring. A report from NBC news listed multiple boroughs where it's already removed it. The clip literally posted 13 hours ago.
@@Albopepper It did mention it was from political movements like "Mom's for Liberty" and not health authorities that are driving the removal.
IT. IS. TOXIC.
In high amounts it is toxic for everybody, but the developing brain of a fetus is sensitive to tiny amounts of mercury, lead and fluorine.
@@anderslvolljohansen1556 Still as an adult though even traces of such toxins can accumulate and become problematic.
It is not in toothpaste. Did you see the video?
That's not exactly what the science says my friend. Calm down.
Calcifies the Pineal Gland (the seat of the soul, the center for intuition, etc.). The Nazis supposedly used it to make the people more docile. Along with chlorine a gas the Nazis also used, it is toxic, like mercury, lead, cadmium, etc. Getting on Spring Water, harvested myself from the source coming from the ground was one of the best things I have ever done. My psychology has changed, let alone my brain, and who knows what else.
I wish Ireland would follow our European neighbours and remove Fluoride from water. If a country stopped adding fluoride, how long would it take for it be be completely flushed from the network?
A few days, I guess.
How long has fluoride been added to the Irish water supply? I ask because I've seen studies showing that the average I.Q. in Ireland is about 5 points below that of the U.K. Maybe fluoride being a partial cause (along with selective outmigration?)?
@@BadgerBotherer1 When did fluoridation start? If the develipng fetus's brain is what is affected, the IQs of those born before that should be unaffected.
Okay, so it's pretty clear that pregnant and breastfeeding women shouldn't consume any amount of fluoride, as well as it being contraindicated for young children.
It's also pretty obvious that we should continue to brush with fluoride toothpaste and spit it out afterwords
But I still haven't heard an answer to the question of what level of ingestion negatively affects full grown adults.
It's almost as bad as lead, the more the worse off you are. Minimal brushing of your teeth can be handled by the body, it's when we're constantly bombarding our system while we drink multiple times a day.
Fluoride accumulates in the pineal gland; sound sleep is important for brain health at all ages.
It took 3 years to remove AZ thing that cannot be named. Others to follow?
As a German it was always weird to me that the US fluoridates the water supply. Its dangers first got talked about in the US like it was some crackpot theory when it was already recognized as a potential hazard here at home.
The irony is public health experts are fighting against lead exposure and fighting for fluoridation.
Awesome, thank you Dr. Greger. This is the follow up video we really needed. Grateful for you making this series as this is a really important issue.
This same view of the medical establishment and people at large is the same as the attitude towards EMFs. The default response is to say "It isn't ionizing!" and to brush it off. A more nuanced response is to worry about other effects it has on the body, such as calcium channels in cells.
The EMF debate is a bell curve, it has people on the left that think "EMF SCARY", the middle has "it's not ionizing so it's safe", and the right of the bell curve has people that are interested in mechanisms that could potentially underpin the effect EMF has on the body.
e.g., ERK / p38 MAPK - very tricky pathway to study, see review article 'The p38 MAPK Pathway in Rheumatoid Arthritis: A Sideways Look' (not about EMF)
Imagine if they started fluoridating animal products 🤔
this reminds me what is happening with the last worldwide mass medication that happened on the past 3 years or so... not saying words...
Thank you Michael and the nutrition facts-team🙏 Hope you in the states get the water supply on the right tack soon. Blessings from Sweden❤
I’ve been trying my best to avoid it for decades. I don’t care what their studies say.
Can you do silver fillings next please. I can't find a dentist who will remove mine.
Not even in exchange for money?
@@pavolhorvath7850 no they say it's unnecessary because you can't see them. When I tell them why I want them removed they laugh at me. Tell me "dont believe everything you read on the Internet". We never even get to the money part so I have no idea how much it would cost.
Fluoride is still in the water naturally and from toothpaste or mouthwash, but in low doses. I didn't know they banned it. Great video!
You're confusing the naturally occurring version, they've done a good job confusing people. The calcium version is what you find in streams, rocks, etc. Toothpaste is using the Sodium version - this is literally a waste byproduct with an insane use history dating back to the Nazis, and has no business in anyone's mouth. Use hydroxyapatite if you're actually trying to keep your teeth healthy, Boka carries a really good toothpaste. Do your research! Don't take my word for it. Cheers
So don’t drink fluoride . Got it . But it’s safe to use in toothpaste. Thanks again Gregor .
No. Use common sense please. Lots of other studies over decades showing it's also bad for your teeth, and even if it wasn't, your teeth are the ROOTS to your entire bodily functions/systems. The history of this stuff and why it was used to begin with is horrifying. This is not the calcium version found in streams, this is the sodium counterpart, and a waste by-product. Also, Hydroxyapatite is FAR superior in every way with amazing studies to back it, it has been used in Japan and other countries far ahead in dental and overall health care. Boka carries an excellent version of it (nano versions differ). This stuff actually gives your teeth the foundation it needs to repair and strengthen being of similar compounds - remineralization.
Thank you for enlightening us!!
Thanks for the great video
We need to sue the government and our state and our local water treatment suppliers.
I would like to know if there is a single person on earth flouride deficient. It is worldwide pollutant. What is the minimum daily allowance? There isn't one!
Thank you for this overview and constructive criticism of the medical establishments response to studies indicating harm from Fluoride. Well done! Now, onto mercury dental fillings 🙂
I love this channel!
A while ago Ralph Nader came out against water fluoridation, but he appears to have sidelined it. There is a real association with Quackery on the anti fluoride front, est pso I hope we can tease out best practices for keeping out teeth and IQ function and health,
wow, this is insane. Can't believe I'm living through something like this
Our teeth are the ROOTS of our bodily functions/systems. The history of this "stuff" and why it was used to begin with is horrifying, it shouldn't be used topically either. Typical toothpaste is not using the calcium version found in streams, this is the sodium counterpart, and a waste by-product. Hydroxyapatite is FAR superior in every way with amazing studies to back it, it has been used in Japan and other countries far ahead in dental and overall health care. Boka carries an excellent version of it (nano versions differ). This stuff actually gives your teeth the foundation it needs to repair and strengthen being of similar compounds - remineralization.
Thank you
What about the safeness of fluoridated toothpaste?
If you spit it out then that's probably safe for you.
It's the developing brain of the fetus that is sensitive to tiny amounts of mercury, lead and, as recently discovered, fluorine.
That means those who are pregant or could become pregant in the near future should be extra careful.
Tea may be another source of fluorine, but that can vary.
Directions say dont swallow. Since ingestion is the issue, should be fine.
The fact is that the main benefit from fluoridated toothpaste came from the fact that part of the fluoride was swallowed.
@@mulik2005 Topical is the main way it prevents cavities
@@TT-zl7ir It's soluble in water, so it will tend to stay in the water that you spit out. A tiny fraction will of course be taken up, but I'm going to brush my teeth like before, even without risning with water, to let the fluoride have extra time to work. I only put a small amount on the brush, however.
You can read the fluoride content on the label.
It's the developing fetus's brain that is extra sensitive, and I'm not capable of becoming pregnant.
Fascinating topic. Appreciate your coverage Dr. Greger. Thank you. Sadly, policy seems to be a team sport.
Great work. You should definitely interview Michael Connett, and everyone should read The Fluoride Deception by Christopher Bryson
Fluoride's effect on developing children seems well established. But what about its affect on the brain of grown adults?
What about hydroxyapatite? Would that work better to prevent cavities?
Our water has fluoride and toothpaste does too. I have bad teeth and believe this fluoridation works.
What about fluoride in tea (Camellia sinensis)?
Is it safe to use in toothpaste and mouthwash? It seems that it could be more concentrated. If you use fluoride in toothpaste and mouthwash, you're bound to swallow some of it when cleaning/rinsing and later in your saliva.
Toothpaste yes, mouth wash no.
@@mattcrowe3645 Thanks for reply. Seems both could be a danger on the surface. Anyway, will check into it.
Do water filters remove flouride from water?
Some types do, like some that use ion exchange resin.
Reverse osmosis removes dissolved salts in general including iodine, but they produce a reject water stream with an elevated salt concentration.
Most don't unless stating otherwise
A good ceramic filter removes a good amount.
You have to get a special one the specifies fluoride removal. Berkey makes an additional filter for this and I’m sure there are others out there.
The Berkey does but the others don't
Wow I went into this thinking “fluoride is fine, Dr. G is going to show us that there’s no issue here” to…. Oh no
Are you able to provide a draft letter with appropriate resources that we can give to our local and state governments?
I had a very close friend for decades who warned me about fluoride back in the 1990s. It did influence me for awhile, but eventually the idea lost credibility, as it seemed all of the anti-fluoride proponents tried to convince laypeople instead of the scientific community. They also frequently peddled conspiracy theories, about fluoride as well as most everything else. It is hard to pluck out from so many conspiracies the one that contains actual risk to humans.
The layperson is poorly equipped in time and training to read and understand scientific papers. Even the broadly trained generalist must rely on experts to dissect the data and review the findings.
It would have been nice to have these studies done earlier and reexamined our water quality, but even though there were people raising concern about fluoride as a substance, they were also claiming it an intentional conspiracy, wide in its scope, but run by a cabal of globalists.
Why would anyone take that seriously?
These same people warned us about "chemtrails" and faking the moon landing.
I'm glad to know that public health is trying to catch up, but I am living in a country that still has extensive lead piping in many municipalities. Along with PFAS and other dangers.
But I'm not looking forward to the wackos never shutting about about being somewhat right this one time.
Conspiracy theorists really can poison the well when getting good science info out. They can make a topic so taboo that researchers don’t even want to study things like water fluoride. They still would have to answer for all the things that they said it was for, like mind control or whatever.
They were not really right with their conspiracy theories. Because they had outlandish and unsubstantiated claims. It does seem that it is bad for some people in the long run and it should be removed.
Are you saying water doesn't find its level?
@@rabbitcreative Lol. Water conforms to the physical laws of the universe like everything else.
@ Sure.
Is floride mouthwash and toothpaste safe?
In the video, it is fine if not swallowed
Read the package.....i believe it says to contact "poison center" if ingested.
@@nanaleigh328 right, that’s why it’s fine if you don’t swallow
Perhaps we should stop calling skeptical people "anti science" and "conspiracy theorists." If you are so sure of your position, name calling hardly seems necessary.
Finally, the cliffhangers have a resolution! Phew! 😊
What about the fluor in toothpaste ?😱
Is it safe to use tamarind or tartaric acid to detox from fluoride? Would mobilizing it make things worse?
My dentist always said don't swallow toothpaste or mouthwash. Fluoride is good for the teeth that's it.
Nutrition Dragnet: Just the facts....
Well I’m early. Hi Dr!
In America, we should also add statins, viagra, ozempic and covid vaccines to public water for that amazing health 💊
Dentists also refuse to consider the health consequences of annual Ionizing Radiation scans. Dental X-Rays are even used to justify frequent scans in other areas rather than consider the harm. Like Doctors, Dentists should monitor the increased cancer rate caused by their scans and accurately inform patients of the risk instead of just saying there is no risk (which is not true).
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Chlorine is more worse
Show the scientific data!
@@pavolhorvath7850 He can't, he's making things up.
Yes, there is an increased risk of bladder cancer from long-term consumption of a chlorinated drinking water, however there is a much greater heath risk from bacteria in untreated water.
In my municipality they use ammonia to sanitize most of the year in order to reduce exposure to trihalomethanes, but switch to chlorine for one month. A regular carbon filter can remove trihalomethanes. We have an RO filter anyway to remove PFAS; wish we had gotten it sooner.
How did the conspiracy theorists know this decades ago? A question with asking
Even a stopped clock gives the right time, twice a day.
They didn't. They didn't "know" that fluoride caused brain damage. They did not even make the CLAIM that fluoride causes brain damage!! We didn't know until we had the studies Dr Greger just cited.
The documented dangers of water fluoridation have been known for decades. It's used as rat poison ffs, and is an industrial waste product.
It amazes me how many vegans reactively dismiss evidence simply because it can be in some way associated with a "conspiracy theory".
After all, they should be well aware of how animal ag and associated industries intentionally cover up their true nature.
It's funny that us "conspiracy theorists" knew this all along.
Looks like Alex Jones was right on this one
if you rant at a camera for hours everyday for years on end, why is it surprising if 1 out of 100,000 claims you make turns out to have some truth to it? Ever hear about the broken clocks?
@@notmyproblem88 "on this one", comprehend what you're reading
Also right about endocrine disruptors in the environment being a problem, though how he phrased it was wrong and offensive. But I wish more ppl on both right and left would have focused on the need to clean up the environment.
Sorry, but we are still using IQ like it means anything? Long disproven nonsense.
Put another quarter in the Alex Jones Was Right jar 🫙
😂😂😂😂😂 well years of promoting all kinds of fringe tales some had to be correct.
People like you have no space here
Some?? 😂😂😂😂 So people who question things are not welcome? You are a 🤡
'People like you have no space here". Lol! You probably poo poo anything not mainstream approved. Go get another booster and wash it down with some fluoride ya cud chewer.
broken clock right twice a day etc
@@damianalejandro6959 I'll be here much MUCH more often now