Great vid! This is something that I totally overlooked for like 6 yrs after I started mixing. Actually only learned how to do it properly like a month ago, but it's made so much difference in the way my mixes turn out. Funny how sometimes the boring things are actually the most important. (Came to to see what you set your overhead levels at.) Thanks!
I'm new to recording drums and I also use version Cubuse 10.5 that came with my Zoom H6 recorder. I now have a Focusrite 18i20. What is the relationship between setting the gain knobs on the interface to setting the gain levels on the input channels within Cubase?
Unless you have another component before your audio interface, like Trey's Audient ASP880 with its own gain knobs, the input gain knobs on your Focusrite are the primary gain knobs. These knobs control the input signal before they are sent to the recording program, (Cubase). In Cubase, and throughout most of your plug-ins, there's also normally "make up" gain knobs or sliders used to control the signal before and after an effect. Use Cubase's channel meter to monitor the input level as you adjust the input gain on the focusrite. I have a similar set up and you can't get a detailed level with the focusrite VU meter on the 18i20. good luck.
How would you set the OH left and right channel because obviously the hat side would naturally be louder. Would you balance the two sides or how would you approach it?
At this point I'd be trying to get both peaking at similar level on the preamp, then balance them out on the fader in daw so kick/snare (your choice) is up the middle. May as well minimise the noise and maximise the resolution you have to play with.
Good demo, but the constant reconfirmation of clipping wore very thin after the 3rd time. A bit of preparation for levels would have made learning less annoying - Too hot > volume down. Gain staging levels fixed > turn up the volume. It would have highlighted the point you where making by showing how hot signals ruin songs, and saving our ears at the same time. Pretty basic stuff. It's a common problem with many (sub-mortal-made) RUclips videos. -12 dB is a safe level to gain stage when recording.
No sense of ear fatigue, letting it clip WAY too long, hurting any listeners ear. Even the drummer is taking his headphones off because it's clipping through his cue mix. Just generally bad practice and we got the idea after you did it with the kick.
I know, I know - I suck at the drums. But I did it for science.
I feel bad for Trey as soon as Alex clips the shit out of the drums and Trey almost dies with his headphones
yeah we didn't really consider that beforehand hahahaha. at least I kept going so I didn't ruin the take, I should have yelled hahaha
@@treyxaviermusic Not very Godly. Bloody annoying in fact! Not just for Trey...
Great vid! This is something that I totally overlooked for like 6 yrs after I started mixing. Actually only learned how to do it properly like a month ago, but it's made so much difference in the way my mixes turn out. Funny how sometimes the boring things are actually the most important. (Came to to see what you set your overhead levels at.) Thanks!
This is perfect. Thank you !
Loved the roll at 7:50 too 👍
Recording levels should be peaks at -6dB, -12-dB or -18dB?
Between -12dB and -6dB is where you wanna be
Just what I was searching for and needed to see. Thanks!
I'm new to recording drums and I also use version Cubuse 10.5 that came with my Zoom H6 recorder. I now have a Focusrite 18i20. What is the relationship between setting the gain knobs on the interface to setting the gain levels on the input channels within Cubase?
Unless you have another component before your audio interface, like Trey's Audient ASP880 with its own gain knobs, the input gain knobs on your Focusrite are the primary gain knobs. These knobs control the input signal before they are sent to the recording program, (Cubase). In Cubase, and throughout most of your plug-ins, there's also normally "make up" gain knobs or sliders used to control the signal before and after an effect. Use Cubase's channel meter to monitor the input level as you adjust the input gain on the focusrite. I have a similar set up and you can't get a detailed level with the focusrite VU meter on the 18i20. good luck.
My hi-tom and two floors are always clipping, this really helped to know that going in the negatives are okay.
This helped out a lot. Thanks!
How would you set the OH left and right channel because obviously the hat side would naturally be louder. Would you balance the two sides or how would you approach it?
At this point I'd be trying to get both peaking at similar level on the preamp, then balance them out on the fader in daw so kick/snare (your choice) is up the middle. May as well minimise the noise and maximise the resolution you have to play with.
Hi there, great tutorial, thanks for posting it.
I'd like to ask you, how to gain stage after my song is recorded.
Thanks a lot.
Nice demonstration and explanation of how to set gain levels, Alex!
Thanks man :D
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Way too many producers either dont understand how to not clip or dont give a shit about clipping and the song becomes ruined as a result
why am I watching this, even in nightmares I`ve never processed real drums lol
Anti Phase same lol, dont let Glenn Fricker hear us
Well in case he will Fuck you Glenn!
ou Glenn is daddy
It's not real difficult. Mic placement and gain staging is key 🔑 👌
Good demo, but the constant reconfirmation of clipping wore very thin after the 3rd time. A bit of preparation for levels would have made learning less annoying - Too hot > volume down. Gain staging levels fixed > turn up the volume. It would have highlighted the point you where making by showing how hot signals ruin songs, and saving our ears at the same time. Pretty basic stuff. It's a common problem with many (sub-mortal-made) RUclips videos. -12 dB is a safe level to gain stage when recording.
I still thought the levels were a little too hot
I can see Trey getting a little red like the level's. 😡
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No sense of ear fatigue, letting it clip WAY too long, hurting any listeners ear. Even the drummer is taking his headphones off because it's clipping through his cue mix. Just generally bad practice and we got the idea after you did it with the kick.
Maybe get a more experienced drummer... All I could hear are those hi hats.