How To Solve Phase Problems In A Mix
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- Опубликовано: 14 июн 2023
- Learn how to make better recordings when using multiple microphones on an instrument. Listen to these examples on guitar and drums (then apply the tips to your own recordings).
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This is one of those things I’ve vaguely known is a thing to watch out for when recording a single source with multiple mics (especially overhead choir mics) but never really understood. Thank you for clearing up decades of fuzziness in one video!
Agree - it was the same with me, had heard about it but never really understood what it was all about - this video was very clear and well made.
Glad it was helpful to you both! Thank you for watching. For micing multiple sources with multiple mics (like a choir), check out “the 3:1 rule”. Might be helpful.
This, my friends, was a Masterclass with a capital letter, indeed.
The last line hit the nail on the head, "If it sounds good then it is good". I used to do a lot of live show work so most of these tricks I was all ready aware of as some one who first started out in the early 2010's when for live use analog consoles where still usually the norm most places at the time. While it did end up feeling like a bit of a baptism by fire learning that way I've noticed it caused me to learn a lot really fast.
Thanks for watching! I agree - working with analog consoles is a powerful way to learn.
Very thoughtful preparation on this. Great job!
I appreciate your time demostrating phase aligment , very usefull!
Thank you. I'm a need to watch again 🤗
Excellent video. In fact, one of the best on the topic of phase. Really appreciate it.
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Wow, what a awesome visual demonstration of phase! Great job and thank you for all your great videos!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great job! thanks.
Great stuff, great channel. Thanks Kyle!
Thanks, Bert!
Man, you are so good at teaching! Thanks for beeing out there for humanity😂❤️
Glad to be valuable, David. Thanks for watching.
Fantastic information, great help! 👍
Glad you liked it! Thanks!
Awesome video man! I wish I got this video before I started recording my acoustic drums. So helpful!!
Glad I could help!
Ozone Imager 1 and 2 have the polar sample, polar level and lissajous graph included as well which is quiet useful imo. Not only does it let you check the phase relation between left and right (as in the plugin you are using in the video) but you can also artificially widen or narrow the signal to your linking. :)
Just in case you didn't know, you can bypass all plugins on all channels by pressing CTRL and clicking on the activate/deactivate FX button of a channel. ;)
Great video as always!
Did Google tell you I was searching this very topic for a few days now? Thank you for this content.
This video is very nice ! Thx
Glad you liked it!
I showed up because I thought I smelled REAPER. Stuck around for the education. Love these videos!
Glad you’re enjoying them! Thank you!
Thank you I've learned how to use the time adjustment delay reaper plugin using the delay amount in miliseconds
Great video lesson ❤❤❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
I might be happier to call it delay and polarity. Phase is a frequency-dependent result of delay. A given delay that causes, say, a phase difference of 40 degrees at 1kHz gives 80 degrees at 2kHz.
I see what you mean. It’s important not to confuse “phase shift” and “time shift”. But phase itself is just the point along the cycle of a wave. So a time misalignment can result in phase cancellation, even if the phase response of the mics are identical.
First heard, helpful techniques, awesome.
Now I know my mistakes
Glad to help!
Important subject. Dave Rat also has a great video on this I point people towards often. This one is probably more appropriate to send people to being directly tied to microphones.
Dave has a great video on this. I love the demo he does with the speakers (with coherent and incoherent pink noise). Thanks for mentioning that!
Thank you a lot
Glad to help!
Very helpful and relevant for me.
But… I’m highly distracted by the fact that the 90 degree phase delay on those electronic signals created a circle/ellipse on that X/Y graph program.
I’m thinking about energy in general, and how spheroids and orbits become so prevalent in space… and I can’t ignore that there is something fundamental about how energy functions and causes those effects being shown here.
In my mind, this is representing how we imagine the points in space… stretch them into lines… weave them together.. create a yarn… and then curl the yarn; and then weave in various tangents of the curls of yarn around the original locus to create a spheroid. - All representing an elevation from non-locality, to 1 dimension, then 2 dimensions, then 3… and I suppose the transitions would be the abstract 4th/time dimension.
And I’m seeing it because of this sound demonstration.
Hmm.
It’s all connected!
@@AudioUniversity Honestly… it’s got me wondering if there had to be TWO snaps of the finger in the beginning instead of ONE.
Almost like God snapped both fingers to make everything happen - but one followed JUST behind the other one…
If that makes sense?
Kinda like.. two back to back “universes” or fields in the same universe… one potential, the other kinetic - and they’re opposite of each other AND slightly out of phase; which prevents them from CANCELLING OUT.
I’m probably going insane.
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Thanks, Isaac!
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A quick calculation suggests that at 44.1kHz, each sample represents approximately 1/4 inch of distance... might be a useful rule of thumb if you're counting the timing difference in samples and wish to move one of the mics.
Put a white noise signal from your phone on your snare drum head to phase align overheads.
What about for field recordings? AKA outdoors? That meeter you used the 1 with the strange L name only the LS-100 of Olympus had it. I'm shocked none of the Zooms do. Ah and as for ORTF. Must the capsle angle be 110? Couldn't you go wider? For instance my big brother said that if ORTF is supposed to replicate your head kinda shouldn't they be 90 degrees of each other the mics?
Can you help us with the pan law? Im strugling with that on reaper. -2.5, -3, -4.5...etc... i was a fl studio user and the pan or the perception of the pan sound better for me
Good suggestion! Thanks!
phasing sounds cool, thus why we have phaser foot pedals, etc. Same when playing two records at the same time and have the pitch slightly off, you can create a cool phasing effect. Or is it a flanging effect?
panning hard left/right for the two mics will also make it very audible
i couldnt understand what you said when you said "you can also try a" and then what did you say? its around 9:30, what i understan is lishashu meter, what is that? and the subtitles say lisa zoo meter, great video by the way very helpful and thanks a lot X)
Lissajous Meter
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One faces you, one doesn't. ...
Often eq'ed differently to not upset the mains mix, as they need to blend on stage.. and you already get alot From the house...
Different design for the application, but speakers are basically speakers, and you try to design as flat and efficient as possible. No world is perfect and live is a jumble...
Do you do any studio equipment setup?
I'd like to hire you to help me put together my studio.
Very Informative
Thank You 😊
Thanks for watching!
I need your help please bro,
Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and the Audient ID 14 which one should I buy for my house studio
The Audient definitely has advantages. It ultimately comes down to your budget. You can make great recordings with either one though.
@@AudioUniversity ok no problem thanks very much
⏲15:17 in wich number unit is that time distance? it says "49", I don't find the meaning of "spls", i used miliseconds instead
Samples
@@AudioUniversity thank you
Why deal only with polarity? That’s 180 degree phase shift. Why not use Little Labs IBP’s to adjust phase relationships MUCH more accurately? I personally would phase align each drum mic to the OH. Try it. Delay is not phase
thank you so much.
Glad to help!
So how the hell do I avoid phase when recording a non stationary object? Like a person talking while moving around in the room. The time difference will change all the time.
That is (and has always been) an obstacle. Close mic placement helps reduce the impacts of reflections and bleed. If you’re dealing with multiple mics, I’d suggest checking out AutoAlign Post.
Good video get some sleep Kyle lol :)
Haha. Thanks.
hope you are safe to disclose this occult alchemic information and the balance of spacetime the universe is not disrupted
This video addresses how to avoid Phasing. However, phasing is not an issue, and you dont have to avoid it if you do not want to. There's actually a modulation effect called phasing...so if you wanted to have phasing modulation in your recording, do not align them perfectly...There are no rules in this game.
Go deeper. You spoke mostly about polarity. Things 180 degrees out of phase. Get into using things like Little Labs IBPs to vary phase over 360 degrees. It’s crazy complex. I suggest to close your eyes and adjust phase until it FEELS the way you think it sits better. I phase align every single track (but one) on every record I mix. More clarity by and defining precise Space between every note. Just my thing. Maybe not yours
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