Mexicans Respond to Spain’s Refusal to Apologise for Crimes of Conquistadors
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Madrid has rejected Mexican President Lopez Obrador’s request for an apology for crimes committed during the Spanish Conquest 500 years ago.
Why did Spain say no? And why is it not so clear-cut on who should say sorry to who?
Watch the discussion: 3:39
Guests:
Federico Lamont
Journalist with El Sol de Mexico newspaper
Carlos Conde Solares
Senior lecturer in Hispanic Studies at Northumbria University
Evan Maguire
Editorial associate at the conservative US magazine - The American Spectator
#Conquistadors #Spain #Mexico
I’m the ancestors and descendants of Guanches and I demand Spain to return our land back. They committed Genocide against our ancestors and after they murdered and tortured my ancestors Spain give authority to dig up my ancestors up without my permission.
I mean we’re mestizo the majority of Mexicans and we have Spanish blood so us mestizos should be saying sorry too right ?
The vast majority of Europeans from Iberia (Spain did not yet exist at that time) were not soldiers of any kind, they were similar to settlers from Britain that illegally migrated to North America in the 1600s. In any event in the initial stages of the ‘conquest’ the warriors that defeated the Aztecs were overwhelmingly other local indigenous enemies resembling a civil war of sorts, not Europeans.
Ultimately it was Old World deceases that wiped out a large portion of the indigenous population, including indigenous allies, not warfare. So no, most Mexicans (and other Latin Americans) are definitely not the descendants of opportunistic mercenaries that arrived in the 1500s.
No bc conquistadors killed the men and raped our women, that's where we come in...thankfully the mestizos, from my pov, allegiance is to the indigenous blood. Dark blood stronger than light
@Sal Mexico has the most Indigenous in all of the Americas and the average mestizo is over 55% or more Indigenous on average. Open your eyes, Mexico is majority brown. I want you and others who liked your comment to go to Spain and let’s see if you’ll come back repping that European side. No other groups of people claim their conquers... not the African Americans, Native Americans, etc,
Etc... maybe because they have self respect for themselves and their ancestors.
No dude. It's 1492-1600. I'm not blaming you for it. Unless you're going around hatefully blaming other races of people for things, I will not use it against you.
Only when someone of Spanish descent says White people should say sorry for colonization, only then do I have to bring that up. Otherwise it's too long ago. We should recognize it for what it is but I don't hate over it until someone says like oh White people should have to apologize and it's like wait there were a lot of colonizers from outside of England so.
When are the Turkish going to apologizing to the Eastern Europeans and the Armenians.
When are the Jews gonna apologize to the Palestinians?
@@ChicagoWESTTOWN476 When are the Arabs going to apologize for destroying Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, and Hindu communities across the world?
All those genocides seem like childs play compared to the death commited in america by the british, portugeese and spanish. a population of 60,000,000 million of people reduced to 4,500,000 millions in just 35 years.
Chicago Aguilar the Jews didn’t take that land, that land was a territory of Britain and after the Second World War it was given to the Jews so that they had at least one country they can call home. It was granted by the United Nations and signed buddy
Maximiliano Ojeda Garay so they say. The numbers are not definite.
Dang 2019 is all about apologies right now getting heated in politics
Mexico is a rising world power. Spain will apologize sooner than later and pay restitution to the indigenous Indians. It's better for Spain does it soon before it is humiliated.
@@Abraham_Tsfaye Mexico can't humiliate spain. All you know what to do is run away to daddy welfare America
@@joebast1144 Yeah, that doesn't help Mexico's case. Though I don't see how it's ridiculous to apologize for past wrongs, even if they happened a century or two ago.
@@linkskywalker5417 Then you’re just another delusional fool. Maybe that’s why you can’t see that. We’ll wait for that Mexican government apology for failing to control Narco-terrorist in their country. Or maybe for their ancestors past of sacrifices? Hmm, I wonder which one they’ll apologize for first.
@@DevilDaRebel Well that's the thing. The narcos are making any and all apologies from Spain to Mexico fall on ears deafened by gunfire and screaming.
Spain already apologized several times, for example in a
friendship and peace treaty in 1836 signed by the queen Isabel II and the most recent by king Juan Carlos in 1990 in the city of Oaxaca (Mexico) in front of representatives of american natives.
But everyone forgot about it so fast. You can blame time and lack of educatuon for the former and the cartels for the latter.
yeah i didn't know that.
I stand corrected. I didn’t know that and I apologize.
That is more false than his sacred book *the black fable* to justify the genocide committed by spaniaretards since Spain recognized the independence of Mexico only because it had no way to defend itself since after 1836 it attacked Mexico on 26 occasions and even supported the United States in the Mexican-American War.
@@james8562 spain didn't commit genocide
Useless discussion, mexico is diverting the real issue against Spanish atrocities. the President of Mexico is using history for his campaign. Instead of sorry, would you please fix your corruption issues?
Ok and that means the Aztecs would have to apologize to the Tlaxcalans and the Mayans to so on and so forth. Spain was the best thing to happen to Mexico. Otherwise they’d be still dragging people to the top of pyramids and ripping their hearts out to make it rain. Mexico has a beautiful people and culture. Spain did a lot of wrongs and guess what? A rebellion started and they were thrown out. Problem solved right there.
@@jessemorato5664 And the Aztecs were not a pleasant bunch. Stop with the "but", and accept the fact that the Aztecs colonized and appropriated lands of other tribes.
Alberto Gutierrez I accept everything the good & the bad i’m not trying to dust anything under the rug. Which is why I said “barbaric rituals” from the jump I’m not trying to justify anything bad the Aztecs did because what’s there to justify? nothing. It was wrong period. What i’m saying & what Earl is trying to argue is the Spanish were the best thing to happen to us & the fact of the matter is it’s not, how are you going to argue for oppression to stop oppression?
@@jessemorato5664 Well, imagine if the Arabs came to the Americas. I doubt there would be any natives. You lack historical perspective. Without the Spanish, the modern Nation State of Mexico would not exist and the emergence of a unique culture. History has oppressed us all. PERIOD.
Alberto Gutierrez bro that’s what i’m arguing for the Natives from ALL of the Americas could have gone through what would have been to emerge to what it could have been without the interference from foreigners. Without the Spanish a true version of “Mexico” would emerge with full blooded Native Americans being the majority along with native languages, “modern” true traditions (emphasis on modern), etc. And yes I know there are few people from everywhere who are true Native Americans who still practice true traditions & speak native languages but the problem with that is those few should have been all of us. Yeah history has oppressed us all but why justify any of it is my the point. I mean look at me I’m fluent in Spanish & English but can I speak let alone name a single native language from my country (Mexico)? no & that’s supposed to be right ?
@@jessemorato5664 So what? We are all victims of history. Because of past injustices we are going to hark on oppression and what could have been? I am a native to these lands. The last cacique that died in my country was in 1923, yet, I refuse to allow history to inspire resentment, grievance, and victimhood. Those attitudes don't lead towards anything positive but contempt. A whole new ethnicity rose from the Spanish conquest, and I am proud to be a part of that historical development despite the injustices.
Give us back Montezumas head dress!!
Spain should give all the gold back
You should give your Spanish name back too
@@A_r78 😂😂👍
Castile ( later Spain 🇪🇸 ) used a
" quinta real" tax system in which 1/5 of the money went to Madrid just like any other tax system meaning 4/5ths stayed to create all the infrastructure, universities , hospitals etc. and to provide defence against pirates and invaders.
Ignorant people don't realise that people in Mexico City and Lima Perú lived better than most Londoners or Germans at the time and better than most other Spanish cities.
So repay all the building costs ( at current rates) return to Nahuatl and other native tongues ( not one common one), forget written language, books,horses,cows,sheep, pigs,tequila,beer,cheese,coffee etc etc
We will stop eating corn,avocadoes ( this one will be difficult), jalapeños, chocolate etc.
You can resume your human sacrifices (The cartels never stopped) and live in your paradise...
BTW , no English, French either because these are colonisers too😏
Man you’re mumbling everywhere, you’re obviously an Spaniard with the butt hurt, what part of slavery is nice you tell me since your taxes are used to fed up a king in 21s century 😂
@@dariomartinez459 Just stop. We all know where the money went to in Mexico, mostly to the Castizo/Criollo class. Stop pretending that there wasn’t/isn’t a caste system in place. Nahuatl was a common language, it was the equivalent to universal Franco languages. Which was heavily used by the Spaniards to communicate and translate. Books? (Don’t forget Spaniards burnt most of the books). Mesoamerica, along with Mesopotamia and China, is one of three known places in the world where writing is thought to have developed independently. Meanwhile Spain doesn’t have an alphabet of their own, it deprives from the Romans. Even then Roman and Greek Alphabets deprive from the Non-Europeans Phoenicians. Spaniards also practiced human sacrifices, European paganism and even under Christianity. Witch hunts ring a bell? Horses, Pigs, Cows, and Sheep come from Asia. The same place that natives came out of.... Tequila is a native drink. Tequila first came into existence in 250-300 A.D. when the Aztec Indians produced a fermented juice of the agave for their ceremonial wine, 'plaque'. Surprisingly, there are a number of accounts of alcohol use among other American Indians and Alaska Natives. Beverages were limited to wine and beer, and included: balche, pulque, and "haren a pitahaya" wines, tulpi beer and other beverages. Coffe? That’s African.
And yet the Mexican Natives especially in the US refuses to acknowledge the Aztecs crimes such as conquering others tribes in the war to use them as human sacrifices but I don't want to trigger the Brown Native peoples.
They would sacrafices newborn babies.
Mayans, and other tribes also practiced human sacrifice, the tribes around the Aztecs also believed in the same religion. Human sacrifice for the sun god. The Aztecs were just better at making it a spectacle. You look stupid talking about this. The ancient tribes believed in war and the better tribe won. The Celts went through it, The guals, Germanic tribes, Zulu, etc.
@Sebastian Benitez man stfu
Uh? But the aztecs are pretty much all gone now, even during the colonial years more than 90% of them died after contracting diseases. Is only meztisos, half aztecs and half spaniards who are alive today.
Oh jason, jason. Palacios you say is your last name. Let me guess you are a Texan? Coughing...Technically Mexican 😂
Here's the thing. They have a racial cast system over there. The mixed race ones identify with their European bloodline so they're going to defend Spain along with the pure European ones in that caste system. It's a lot more common for them over there to be able to co-op indigenous people identity. Think about a Spanish speaking senator Elizabeth Warren x 10.
Elizabeth Warren said she was Native American.
@@PIANOPHUNGUY so do Mexicans and neither one are
@@beforeyourimmigrants8471 I see Africans waking up from the European whitewashed mindset. Nigeria banned foreign models for media and not long ago some Africans somewhere in Africa were burning Christian paraphernalia. This should happen across the globe.
@@tlamatini4617 that's good! For the longest time the Nigerians minds have been totally whitewashed. I remember when they built the biggest white Jesus statue on the continent did they ever take that down? I also come across a lot of them over here in America who brag about their slave trading ancestors. I hope those people get it together.
Philippines was colonize for 333 years but still the Philippines maintains good relations with Spain and also forgetting what happened on the past. Demanding an apology that happened 500 years ago is absurd, they're just using it for political reasons
except the indigenous people kicked out Spain and in Mexico it's the Criollos WHO ARE SPANIARDS kicked spain out. Just how in the United States it's the English descents that revolted against England and made the United States
@Sebastian Benitezyeah I get ur point
Sebastian Benitez lol in former Spanish America ? It still is Spanish like Mexico is basically Spain in a different area of the world there’s not a reason why you speak Spanish, and call yourself Hispanic and latinx lol prior to the arrival they never called themselves that lol
@@biotyf4665 But in that case it would make even less sense for Mexico to ask apologies from Spain. Like, literally, the "conquistadors" would be the Mexicans, not the Spaniards. It would be like the USA asking apologies from England. It just... makes no sense at all. And don't get me wrong, I would think the exact same about the Philippines askinng for apologies but in the case of Hispanoamerican countries is just... like seriously?
@- it wasn't bad for you guys. Your privilege is showing.
Wait isn't most of Mexico mestizos so they should apologize to themselves since they are the descendents of the conquistador
When is Trump going to ask England for an apology for all the atrocities committed against the native Americans in the United States?
So you think a baby the product of a rape should apologize to himself and his mom?
@@anaml3879 you can’t rape the wiling..
@@stardust86x and u gain what out of an apology grow up
@@barano9729 we are Mestizos by blood we wanted peace end there response was rape and murder I will never forgive Spain
It's not like the indigenous people of Mexico were any better than the Spanish conquerors. The Aztces that ruled Mexico were incredibly cruel, subjugating other native tribes and taking their people for human sacrifices. Also, remember, many natives allied with the Spanish conquerors to defeat the Aztecs.
Yes, may be, they where something like the romans of Meso-america. But the spaniards exterminated the aztecs, so spaniards where equally cruel, and commited many murders and abuses against the other indigenous tribes, during the next decades. Those who helped the spaniards where subjugated by them, so their vengeance against aztecs did not make them free, and there was no mercy form them anyway. So their vengeance was useless for them.
@@luish135 Finally someone who actually knows wtf their talkin bout 🤝
@@luish135 You might as well ask the descendants of the natives who helped the Spanish to apologize too.
@@michaelajustin3443 Of course there is a blame for them, in México there is a kind of historically scorn for them, not to their descendants, but to the tribes who helped spaniards. In fact there is even a myth from which the mexican word "malinchismo" comes from. Its a kind of betrayal to your people, to your blood, to your culture. However those allied tribes whith the spaniards where only one or two, the vast majority of tribes which where on the now mexican land, and which were afterwards subjugated, abused and erased their cultures and religion by the spaniards, did not help them to defeat the aztecs, they where only víctims. However, those tribes who helped spaniards have the argument that they hated aztecs, they where enemies, so they wouldnt make an apologize to aztecs. May be their desendants owe an apologize but to the other tribes, and may be they feel ashamed of those past events. But in México there is not a request for an apologize neither from them nor their descendants, because at the end, they where also victims, and they received a big and cruel punishment by spaniards.
@@luish135 The natives were victims of the thing which they helped start. Regardless, of them being subjugated, it doesn't change the fact they still helped the Spanish in colonizing the Americas. Them being brutalized later on doesn't make them morally innocent. For example, you helping Hitler kills Jews but later also being killed by Hitler doesn't make you innocent. Seriously, stop blaming everyone but yourself. It's common to white wash history and always point fingers at the white man for everything wrong in the world.
To the Mayans they've Lied , and the Tide will ride now
The timing of this demand for a apology is so random however. Why now?
Because they need to cover the true problems of their country and blame someone else.
Because it is was a historic year , 500 years since the conquest
@@eukarya_ 500 yrs . Know about history
If Mexico wants an apology, it should be coming from their own people (Mestizos) discriminating against their own people the indigenous. This has and have been a serious problem in Mexican society. I can see and understand the good intention of President Obrador, but this was in the past. If we get an apology, good. If not, its the least of our problems and there are many ways Spain or others can pay homage to Mexico indigenous people.
That is all thanks to Spaniards, ever since they stepped foot in Mexico. They brought colorism and a caste system. Look at the media, all Europeans. Europeans are the root of the problem. It will never end until Europeans and their ways are expelled from Mexico once and for all!
you guys should see mexico, the indigenous population in mexico belongs to the lowest socio-economic class. apologizing is the least spain can do for mexico
I think it is Mexico the one who should apologize for what it is doing to its own citizens, rather than asking Spain, who left 200 years ago, for something that happened 500 years ago.
@@goodaimshield1115 what is México doing to its own citizens?
@@goodaimshield1115 idk what you're getting at.. the ENOURMOUS impact that Spain had on Mexico is still seen till this day.. They introduced Catholicism, they burned temples, they killed more that 10 million indigenous Mexicans, the science that was being developed at the time had to come to an end because of "heresy" to the catholic church.. I think asking for an apology is the least Spain can do
@@bestgrader4608 lmao, never
@@goodaimshield1115 they never left they still remained in power
9:50 and what did Spain just finish doing to Jews and Muslims in Spain before they arrived to Mexico ? He’s trying to justify the conquistadors actions by mentioning human sacrifices
Rationalizing - The Spanish people enslaved even those natives that sided with Cortez. For four hundred years the Spanish ruled Mexico maintaining them in poverty, in fact Hispanic whites are still ruling indigenous nations in central and south America today, supported by the USA. Europe cannot deny the colonial policies around the world, Spain is no exception. What is happening here is the spirit of Pan Native awaking and the the Spanish population small as it is, in those Indigenous nations are on the way out. The conditions in all of so-called Latin America today was created by the Spanish colonial policies. Remember the US controls all of the nations of the American Continent as Europe did in Asian and Africa. Spain became a world power by the exploitation of Mexico and the rest of the continent and later, the USA became a world power under the Monroe Doctrine scheme.
No, I mean
Wtf, why should we apologize for something that happened 300 years ago
In fact the descendants of the conquistadors are the people living in that countries, as they are the “mestizos”
With this logic we should demand an apology from Italy for Roman invasions
The thing is, you shouldn't apologise, I have spanish friends and they are some of the nicest people I've met, none of you can be blamed for what happened that long ago
Spain should apologize for the genocide then committed and their barbaric acts that they committed to the indigenous
@@SO-nz5tj
Spain didn't exist then , but simple minds don't understand that.
Castile conquered present day Mexico with a couple of hundred men and thousands of native allies who hated the evil Mexica which was somehow used to name the modern nation .
Spain 🇪🇸 has nothing to apologise for and modern Mexicans are not guilty of the crimes committed by the Mexica.
Is the crown who is been held accountable, that institution is the one that have to apologize not for pleasure, amlo is just trying to get respect back for the forgotten people, nobody cares about you, you can keep sucking your king balls.
@Euf The average Mestizo is over 55% or more Indigenous on average. Mexico has the most Indigenous in the Americas. If you were 20% black, then you are automatically Sub-Saharan African. That’s your logic right there.
Forget the apology, give back the wealth
To whom?
Lmao england has that gold get a history book
@Jonathan Cruz69 ur an idiot lmao
Lmao why so corrupt Mexican politicians could split it themselves. It’s not Spain’s fault Mexico is super corrupt.
@Sonia Castro and the remaining Criollos/Castizos in Mexico should have their citizenship stripped from them and be deported and banned for life!!!
This type of people are so pathetic. Minor nations with unambitious people, that need someone to "apologize" to them like they are a hurt Karen.
Genocide
Not a Karen , a Juanita..😏
It wasn't a single event that happened 500 years ago. Mexico didn't get it's independence til the 1820s. Is 200 years too long too? For essentially 300 years of damage. I mean if I came into your house and took anything ..their needs to be amends. If I see you every hundred years and you say you're still hurt by it ..apparently there's some resolve we need to come to. If one or both parties aren't willing to come to the table, neither will heal from the wrongdoing.
Garbage. Indigenous people were only marginalized after the so-called "independence" and it was so from Argentina to Mexico.
@D CS ¿According to what ACADEMIC historical sources?
@@jaimendaniel5578
They don't have academic sources , their current inept leaders want them to focus on lies about the past to distract them from their current woes.
These people don't read anything longer than a pamphlet and it is in the interests of their leaders to keep them ignorant lest they realise what is happening and revolt.
@@dariomartinez459 Por supuesto que no. Sólo es un relato para canalizar los resentimientos del hombre masa en benficio de ciertos titiriteros.
Yeah marginalized by the same people (who just happen to be European anchor babies). Who put the caste system in place? I thought so.
@@tlamatini4617 There were no anchor babies. That term belongs to another context. There was no caste system either, idiot,. Learn ACADEMIC history. The natives, as well as just simple folks were deprived of their land and their livelihood by a clique of bourgeois in cahoots with England or, later on, the USA. Many were of mixed descent. For example, Bolivar was a mulatto of sort.
This is a distraction, the conquistadors made alliances with many indigenous nations like the Tlaxcaltecas, (There is a modern state called Tlaxcala) and toghether defeated the Aztecs or Mexica. The real name of Mexico is New Spain; in this case all the non aztec indigenous people should apologize, because they fough side by side in alliance with the europeans.
Not even just the Tlaxcaltecas but... literally every tribe but the Mexicas XD
@@goodaimshield1115 because they had a chance to remove the biggest player fools it costed there lives and many other
Only because they had the chance to kill the head player
@@j0an-07-arc6 what are you talking about? All these tribes were oppressed and brutalized by the Aztecs. Of course they wanted to defeat them.
@@Cobe1976 How far did that get them? All natives cultures on the brink of extinction!
As a Mexican this is absolutely Embarrasing.
What is embarrasing? An apologize?
@@luish135 There’s bigger problems we’re facing while this dumbass is out here begging to spaniards an apology for something that happened a long time ago
@@Nonamelol. true, but what is embarrasing? The apologize? Just because there are major problems is it embarrasing an apologize?
@@luish135 It is very embarrasing because he’s making us look bad.
@@Nonamelol. well yes, but it depends on the point of view. Looking bad has no connection with if something is right or wrong. It make us look bad just because the most of the people in this forum believes it is wrong and absurd. But that is subjective. Most of them people who see it that way are not from México, nor are indigenous. Their opinion is just that, and it is less worth than an opinion from somebody from Mexico, or an indigenous person, because it is suposed that they are the ones the apologize is for. Yes you're mexican as you say, but you are just one person. It is worth your opinion, but you dont represent all mexicans.
I like Ispanyol but I agree with Mexico and good European countries and good old USA should apologize the same
Naw
Well take a seat and wait. We are not going to say that word.
@@lycotropo
And probably they are not interested anyhow.
@@aldemir6127 I think that's true, it seems more probably some kind of distraction of more important issues.
nah
Mejor sería que cuiden a sus indígenas en la actualidad. A los que tienen abandonados y marginados quien les pedirá perdón en el futuro??
A los indígenas que están vulnerables ante el crimen organizado.
do you think that turkiye must apologize to the territories they formerly occupied in the name of the Ottoman?
The Past is the Past, Let's forget about the Past and work towards the Future . What's done is done.
@Cool Monxter Well.. I didn't really know my great great great grandparents.. so I don't know where you going with all this. My parents are both from San Luis Rio Verde. My family didn't come from the main cities. But yea let's just forget about the passed..
Fool never don’t you even dare forget the past what happened happened and because of it costed many lives and changes those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it
Next time you see a Vietnam Vet with PTSD remind him of that!!!
Forgive but NEVER forget
I served in the USMC FOR 33YRS, THE PASS IS THE PASS.
My Father was a POW from the Vietnam War. and he agrees with Me. @@foxygrace6626
We brought them the knowledge of civility and God... but they are ignorant there in Mexico
Logan Hansford We? I didn’t know you were a 16th century Spaniard.
You sound really racist and ignorant tbh
Kurami Rocket The truth hurts
@@Angloman2000 The truth believed by the fool
I agree, these latinos..
Gracias Lamont
Turkish news network talking about atrocities smd
@Jamil Ebdeen hahahaha
@X Turkey needs to apologise to the whole Middle East, North Africa , Southern Europe and Balkans.
I mean an indigenous people's and Spaniards mixed make a "Mexican"
Mexican is a Nahuatl word. Deprives from the Mexica tribe. So Mexicans existed long before the Spanish ever arrived. Europeans don’t represent Mexico and never will.
@@tlamatini4617 wtf? Modern Mexicans and Aztecs are two totally different peoples . Actually the majority of mexicans true native ancestors fought against the oppressing Aztecs. And some fought along side Cortes. Mexicans started to exist in 1821 with the independence.
@@roblu2073 Mexican derives from Mexica tribe, ie, Aztecs. Lastly.... Aztecs were made up individual tribes, an alliance, not a group of race as you’re trying to make it to be. A true “Mexican” is some one who has some type of native connection to one of the 68+ original tribes of the land and not an invader like the Spaniards.
@@tlamatini4617 so basically 60% - 70% of the people who live in Mexico today are not true Mexicans. According to you. Why? Most of those people have Spanish ancestry as well not just native.
@@roblu2073 I never knew 1% Africans and 10% Europeans represented majority of Mexico, bahaha.
We didn't ask to speak Spanish and religion was forced amongst people. Took are gold and then their country Spain became poor Mexico doesn't need gold we have good workers and heart of motivation till one day will be the country that every immigrant wants to live here.
Immigration isn’t nice. Europeans bring over their Nazi culture. I heard some Nazis in Chile would kidnap locals and do scientific torturous experiments. Is that what you want to bring over?
Spain should apologize.
No what for? Get your corporate president who’s trying to distract y’all from the real problem
@@christiangarcia2353 what's the real problem?
I don't think they did it.
The current population of Spain aren't the ones who migrated to the Americas.
It’s funny how the Spanish want to bring up brutality of the natives…but want to forget the brutality they did to their own people during the Inquisition…they tortured their own in the name of their catholic religion too! Natives of the Americas didn’t go to Spain and force their culture on the Europeans. That’s all Europe in that brutality.
I think the Mexican was diesel should apologize to themselves and the Spanish government should apologize to Mexico's indigenous communities
I studied good history, and I'm thankful for how lucky I was. I'm a beautiful mix of indigenous, Spanish and Africans, and I am very proud of that.
In my opinion, the task has be in all those responsible who are able to get the power granted by the citizens to carry out a good management for the benefit of the people and in the same way they have to look after their citizens' interests. Then, they're who must take charge of continuing to building and improving the socio-cultural issue in our global community instead of striking it down through hatred and resentment. Well, if Spain must apologize, then the queue would be infinitely according to what the world society represented before and nowadays which is the fundamental subject for what is obviously a fact based on multiculturalism.
As for the political, it's simply populism and opportunism with absurd and petty ends.
On the other hand, regarding the historical approach to the world and for everyone, it must be a matter of raising awareness, because "whoever doesn't remember his history is condemned to repeat it." Also, promote knowledge and recognition of facts, and take pride in the great multicultural variety that exists today and represents us.
(The most important thing is to recognize and attend to the problems that exist in the world today in this period of time).
To start building a better and conscious world, it would be necessary to give the global community:
1. Education, training and information.
2. A health and educational system.
3. Equality between each of the individuals who inhabit in all around the world ... That's the main point...✍
Mexico is demanding an apology, not reparations, which is what it should be doing.
An apology is just an admission of wrong doing, however this act will not repair centuries of cultural and ethnic genocide by hands of Spain and the Catholic Church. It also, doesn’t fix the sacking of national treasures and resources by the Spanish Crown.
The Conquista happened centuries ago, however, it’s effects are still ever present through its undying Malinchismo, machismo, colorism, prejudices and the never ending systems of corruption based on systemic racism and bigotry, instilled by a very white Spanish Crown and Catholic Church.
So an apology is the least, The Spanish Crown and The Catholic Church should extend, not just to Mexico, but to all the countries and indigenous peoples throughout the entirety of Latin America.
That being said, I agree with many who have commented, it is a distraction from the Mexican government’s incompetence and unwillingness to find solutions to these problems, problems which are a direct effect from La Conquista, this is something Mexico needs to address and Spain needs to apologize for through reparations or at least the return of what was stolen.
But let’s face it, neither party will ever do the right thing, so it would be better for the media to focus their efforts on exposing the borage of problems within our political and economic systems and thus motivate the people to mobilize and demand change for the betterment of both countries.
Tita Outré. My lady: you are the living demonstration of indigenist indoctrination and of the deepest ignorance. As long as you continue to swallow those crude lies, Mexico and all of Latin America will continue to live poorly in the third world. Spain will never apologize for the alleged crimes that she never committed. In America there has been no looting other than that committed by the English, Americans and the very leaders of the current banana republics, with their unfortunate and ignorant peoples. Try to be a person, study. Knowledge will set her free.
It is always easier to declare war then to ask for an apology. Spain by not apologizing denies wrong doing and blind eyes regarding a black chapter in its history. Let's not forget that the conquest of Mexico was about gold, silver, natural resources, the sacking of historical relics and mass rape and killing of the indigenous people allied or not. Religion was the medium to mind control their inhabitants.
@@Green_clust3r Leída su lamentable respuesta, ya no puede saberse si es que es usted un imbécil profundo, de nacimiento, o un pobre indigente intelectua, adoctrinado por la nefasta "enseñanza" que se "imparte" en México, y que asegura a sus corruptas élites dirigentes seguir dominando a las desgraciadas masas de su población durante otros dos siglos, así como el que continuarán lamiendoles las botas a los yankees por toda la eternidad. Y encima, agradecidas por tener como presidente a un individuo de tan baja catadura moral como AMLO. Claro, como hagan lo que hagan los ladrones que los gobiernan, la culpa de todo la tiene España... los tontos se conforman con tan pobre excusa.
what would you think happen if someone broke in to all the museums and returned everything?
Spain would have to apologize to most of Latin America and the Spanish speaking Caribbean....its clear this new Mexican President is more connected to his indigenous roots then the prior Man in power. SPAIN will not bow because yes they have alot of blood on their hands but it's the past..we have to look to the future.
The Aztecs needs to apologize to other native tribe for conquering them.
Alberto Gutierrez As a polity they no longer exist.
Alberto Gutierrez I would forgive them because it was brother against brother in truth is I would have joined the Aztecs and continued conquering and building cities and towns like we were all through North America maybe even started building ships to start exploring. Or what if it were the Tlaxcala who came to power instead? Nobody ever brings them up!
@@albertogutierrez8653 who led the invasion and the genocide everyone blames Germany no ever blames Italy and Poland for the genocide of the Jews either
This left wing little president has more ties to Cantabria Spain than to any native roots but he uses false issues like this to distract from his abject failure as a president.
Those writings, were done by
The padres - not by the Aztecs.
Most were in favor of the crown.
Iam talking about - sacrafices.
By the Aztecs, for rain, and
For crops.not to kill , for killing,
Invented by the crown, in oder
To justify the conquest, and
Their christian beliefs.
I agree.
They even wrote that they thought Native headwear looked like devil horns so they thought they were involved in demon worship based purely on their physical appearances of the Aztecs and on their own superstitions.
However, many Catholic priests also took record of the Spanish atrocities in their writings. Providing first hand witness. Which is highly valuable and needed.
@@JonDoe-mz4dx I agree,
With you.
Kinda reminds me of African Americans
A bunch of crybabies?
@@arturobriones2644 Since you and the other spoke evil against us I speak a curse to come upon you and this other fellow. As a prophet of the Most High
@@HebrewJerusalemPrince777 No one comes to the father without coming to him first.
Whatever you say, Shlomo.
@@arturobriones2644 Mark my words. You gone regret what you said.
The beggers of Europe - Spain, what does their apology mean.
The Aztecs were brutal so brutally wipe them out, it's cool. Spain was the pinnacle of morality, right? Inquisition yourselves.
@Jonathan Cruz69 “not all of them” just most.
cuz pride
Very disappointing...Spain and the Catholic Church should be less defensive and more receptive towards improving their image.
Spain? Why not Mexico? The Spaniards who colonized Mexico currently have descendants in Mexico, not Spain???
That's like blaming the U.K. for something that the U.S. specifically did. It's obnoxious.😂
The descendants of the English who colonized the U.S. currently live in the U.S., not England. Get it?
So... every defeated people in history has the right to demand apologies from the victors? Is there a time limit? And who today should get/give apologies? Should the Germans ask forgiveness to the Italians from the Barbarian invasion of the Roman Empire?
bruh this is about the indigenous people of Mexico suffering from Spain's generational racism. Sure the Mexica and the triple alliance did sacrifices but do you think they deserved to be wiped out in a genocide? do you think they deserve to be driven off and have their women raped and children taken away?
It's not even that.
It's the fact that the Spaniards who live in current Spain aren't descendants of the people who left Spain for the Americas.
So the individuals responsible for carrying out these acts were not necessarily the Spanish ancestry of modern Spaniards.
Much like how as an American, my percentage of English ancestry is responsible for those early illegal settlements like Jamestown. Not necessarily the people living in modern U.K.
Same deal. The Spanish who did this are in the DNA of the Mexicans, not the Spaniards in Spain.
Give them thier gold back !!
🤣🤣😁😁
Im mexican and im proud of both my spanish and indigenous ancestry. Its stupid to hate part of who you are. You will never be happy hating part of your roots. This man is just causing more division against peoples. Awful
Nice try Lu From China.
@@tlamatini4617 um you dont know who i am and I am not from China. Nice try…
I agree. Taking responsibility and hating yourself are two different things.
I can admit my colonial ancestry is negative.
But I'm not blaming a random Englishman for things that my ancestors in the United States had done.