Top 5 Cafe Racer Bike Donors

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  • Опубликовано: 2 янв 2025

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  • @tonyconnolly5385
    @tonyconnolly5385 5 лет назад +40

    1) Honda cx500
    2) BMW R80
    3) Yamaha Virago
    4) Honda CB4
    5) Suzuki GS

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  5 лет назад +2

      Nice choice

    • @Durgrim_
      @Durgrim_ 5 лет назад +3

      Gotta love the summary guy

  • @e46silverbullet62
    @e46silverbullet62 7 лет назад +2

    +1 for the Suzuki GS! proud owner of one just recently. didnt run when i bought it for $500. was last running in 08' but with tlc and some time and effort it pulls hard now. well built engine. cafe racer here we come!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      Amazing, all the best with the build and if the engine is fine it's half the battle

  • @jesseisabean
    @jesseisabean 7 лет назад +10

    Your videos have given me a lot of confidence for building my first cafe racer. I know I'm gonna run into frustrations along the way, but that end goal of something beautiful that has my blood, sweat, and tears in it should hopefully keep me motivated. Thanks for the list, and I'm excited to see your channel grow!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Amazing, I'm glad they help you. Every project will give you frustration but keep a cool head and know if anything goes wrong or you get stuck there's always a solution

  • @GodOfMedia
    @GodOfMedia 6 лет назад

    I'm doing a GS1100g for my first build. I plan on doing it area by area as the bike is going to be a daily driver as much as it can be. First on the list is going to be upgraded gauges to digital, upgraded headlight with integrated indicators, clubman flat bar with a downward orientation, bar end mirrors, seat, possibly a floating rear fender, and brake light with integrated indicators. It'll get stripped down quite a bit for aesthetic, but all in all the work will go quick on the first grouping.
    Eventually I'd like to rejet the carb, upgrade the muffler to make the bike run as quiet as humanly possible, but also install an electronic cutout valve on each side to take the exhaust from quiet purr to screaming roar when the occasion calls for it. The bike is currently orange in a bobber/cruiser configuration and will eventually get resprayed in a matte black with a pearlescent white. So far that's all I have on the list.

  • @marksmith5156
    @marksmith5156 6 лет назад +1

    I'm doing a 1980 cb900f at present it's had a gsxr750 engine fitted from a 1988 bike been stood up since 2001 got it a year ago now got stuck into it this is the biggest project I've started got wiring mainly to do and styling but it is unique itself biggest problem is the fuel tap fits between the carbs and the head who started it rushed some of the important parts so taking it back and taking it one part at a time been watching your channel very informative and helpful all the best

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 лет назад

      Good luck, wiring is the worst part for me, thanks for watching.

    • @marksmith5156
      @marksmith5156 6 лет назад

      For The Bold - dreegez the videos your making are great its showing me small jobs like rear hoop fitting I'm to in the UK suffolk near Ipswich I haven't yet got the luxury of a work shop so I'm picking good days to get on with the build I'm disabled so further to the challenge I would like to fit forward controls regards mark

  • @Lluraeden
    @Lluraeden 3 года назад +1

    Just wanted to stop by and say that you really inspired me a couple years ago to start my build. I have a 1982 GL500i which is basically the touring version of a CX. I found a good deal on a clean one and after watching your cx500 series I knew I had to try it. It's been a long project but the end is in sight, and the bike runs and drives wonderfully! This channel was a huge inspiration and gave me a lot of confidence going into this project, so thanks!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  Год назад

      Glad to hear it! That’s awesome

  • @fatrobdouble
    @fatrobdouble 6 лет назад

    In the US, the transverse v-twin Hondas were sold as CX with the twin shock set-up; monoshock versions were sold as Silverwings. Transverse v-twins just look rad.

  • @trainermanny
    @trainermanny 4 года назад

    Just started watching your videos and i can't stop. I just picked up my first project bike. A 92 Yamaha XJ600 Seca II (Diversion) for $400. Gonna turn it into a Streetfighter/Cafe. Got a lot of work ahead of me.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 года назад

      Glad you’ve found the channel. Best luck and enjoy your build.

  • @celticstephenhill
    @celticstephenhill 2 года назад

    Working on 2x Suzuki GS'.. a 450 and a 750. Unreal that they both had gear selection displays on the guage clusters back in 1980. My 750 even has disk breaks in the back (dual disks in front). And crazy dependable. Started the 450 in 2 min after it sat with zero maintenance for 3 years.

  • @TheNWnick
    @TheNWnick 7 лет назад +1

    I myself am 6'4" and own a '83 GS550 cafe - this is a reasonably
    comfortable bike and quite fun when the engine comes to life in the
    higher rpm range. I typically ride a '99 Harley Sportster 1200 custom
    scrambler, a '09 Honda XR650L, and a custom S&S powered
    springer/chopper, but I could not pass on a solid running $700
    cafe/street fighter. I love this thing, it is so light and nimble
    compared to the heavy American bikes, plus I rarely ride bikes with
    sportier riding geometry. I'm ready to start my own build on a GS
    platform now. These high revving little monsters are a delight, if I
    may say so. Thanks for the video, it was entertaining enough for me to
    hit the subscribe button. Keep it up!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      Thanks for subscribing. Sounds like you have fun riding. And all the best when you start on your GS

  • @WillysPerformanceCycleCtr
    @WillysPerformanceCycleCtr 7 лет назад

    I have a GS750N & L model in the garage. Both are fully disassembled. I have plenty of GS parts on hand and plan to start a cafe project bike. Your GS looks great. In the late '70's, I had several GS750 and 1000's. Both were fast and decent handling bikes in their day. Thanks for the videos.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      Sounds amazing. That's one thing my GS was missing, plenty of parts. All the best for when you start.

    • @WillysPerformanceCycleCtr
      @WillysPerformanceCycleCtr 7 лет назад

      For The Bold - dreegez ..... Soon, we will share a few photos and/or videos of our build. Thanks for the inspiration! My son and I are having a good time with the build.

  • @nickmorris9383
    @nickmorris9383 6 лет назад

    Ok.....now i worship you!......you completely understand exactly what i love and enlist in a gorgeous build.......art is how ART DRIVES....ty.!!!......you understand how different i am from most.......

  • @mothershipmotorsports9802
    @mothershipmotorsports9802 4 года назад +1

    My vote is for the Yamaha XS series. Beautiful straight seat line, minimal welding, strong straight 2,3 or 4 cylinder (depending on displacement). Direct drive.

  • @Mojokiss
    @Mojokiss 2 года назад

    my virago was much harder to handle the carb servicing than my CB with standard config. i have the CB now and its a joy in contrast. but virago is a fun bike and sounds nice. the front and rear cyl's run different temps because of air flow and both carbs have different specs too.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  2 года назад +1

      That’s Yamaha for you. Tough to get right

  • @ir8d8rads
    @ir8d8rads 7 лет назад +25

    Well traditionally Cafe' racers were small displacement bikes that had been stripped down to make them nimble and quick for racing through city streets. ...Aping the small road-race bikes popular in Europe in the 50's thru 70's. Seeing people call Honda Goldwings with glass seats and low bars "Cafe'" makes me wince. To me any of the Yamaha RD series is the perfect cafe' ride. A little modern to be authentic maybe. Smaller 4 cylinder Hondas are good too along with some of the Euro singles. It needs to be compact and light. Quick but not necessarily fast. A BMW R series is not that. ...anymore than a 4-seater can be rightly called a sports car. Cafe' styling elements do not make it a Cafe' Racer.

    • @aimDiego
      @aimDiego 6 лет назад +4

      You talk about tradition, but that doesn't mean that the term cannot evolve, as Ducati made the SportClassic with a Cafe Racer feeling in mind, and I'm not saying that it is one, because it's not, but it's neither all about the technical specs, I believe there is a mix between styling, functional and technic elements to call a bike a Cafe Racer.

    • @andrewnimon4700
      @andrewnimon4700 6 лет назад

      @@eddiecaplan1908 Those are definitely my top as well as the five in video. Very true but classic seems like a subjective term (except for specific 50 through 70 cafe racers) it really depends on the individual's experience. But I'm sure we have all seen someone take a bike and completely change every part to a mod to the point where it's original bike (make, year and model) is unrecognizable and might not really matter what they started with because it is a different bike than for the example of a 35+ year bike from Japan that has been sitting collecting dust. But basically the conclusion is doing ones homework and knowing what you are capable of doing/affording.

    • @Drunken_Hamster
      @Drunken_Hamster 5 лет назад

      OG Kawasaki H2 is the best Cafe racer candidate. Lul. Then the CBX1000

    • @derrickwoods2803
      @derrickwoods2803 2 года назад

      a cafe racer is taking something you have making it better and suitable for speed it doesn't have to be some small little Honda or european bike

  • @chackothomas8929
    @chackothomas8929 4 года назад

    1. BMW K-series
    2. Honda CX500
    3. BMW R-Series
    4. Yamaha Virago
    5. Honda CB
    Currently building a CX. Love your videos!

  • @GreatEgret
    @GreatEgret 7 лет назад

    Donor bike costs in the States are catching up to yours in the UK. In my area, anyway. A non-running 1984 Virago is going for $1100 on Craigslist here. Granted it's been available for awhile, but a running 1985 700 is selling for $1900! Same goes for costs for CB, CX, and GL models here. Just sky high here.

  • @marrick3853
    @marrick3853 7 лет назад +14

    I'd really like to do a Honda CX. Just a bit more saving up to do...

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      They're gorgeous bikes, very much like Motoguzzi

    • @MrLeeflemwell
      @MrLeeflemwell 3 года назад

      I have one in progress at the moment.

  • @daveanderson8776
    @daveanderson8776 3 года назад

    I have a Honda cb400a I got for $350 dollars here in the state’s ,wasn’t running but the compression was great !
    Got it running in about 1hour ,then I changed all the vitals ,sparks plugs,oil filter and oil runs great !
    Cut the back end off and welded a seat hoop on also cut the fenders to a nice arrow tip shape on the ends .
    Put some enduro tires on it .looking pretty cool so far ,trying to come up with other ideas as well 🔧🔧🔧🔧🔧

  • @justanothernoobe
    @justanothernoobe 7 лет назад

    I'm working on a Virago XV1100 - twinshock. Have a set of Kawasaki ZX10 forks to go in, a TR1 tank and will clean up the rear subframe, lights and hide the electrics under the tank. But ... I've had a word with myself and I'm not allowed to start on it until I finish the Honda VLX600 bobber and Yami FZS 600 Streetfighter / stunt bike projects ... there's just never enough time in the day to crack on with the fun stuff!!!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      It's very true, there isn't enough hours in the day, especially for the number of projects you have ;)

    • @justanothernoobe
      @justanothernoobe 7 лет назад

      let's not even mention the FJ40 or Cobra projects!!! Or house renovations!!!!!!!! Anyway - keep up the good work - I'll flick over some photos and links once I get the Virago underway.

  • @judsonl8990
    @judsonl8990 7 лет назад

    I can second what you said about the Virago. I've got an 82 750 - the mono shock. I'm going for more of a bobber look, but I can definitely say that it has NOT been an easy build. Almost a year later (working on it off and on) and I'm still having trouble getting it to run. And the fabrication once you remove the stock seat and subframe, is a challenge also. I've enjoyed it, and I've learned a lot. But, if I could go back, I would have gotten an xs650 or an old Harley instead (again, I'm more into bobbers and old school choppers).

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      +Judson Lowery thanks for the insight of the virago. All the best with your build and keep at it

    • @judsonl8990
      @judsonl8990 7 лет назад

      Your CX500 build series gave me the inspiration to get at it again. It's been sitting, neglected, for the past couple months. I stripped down the wiring harness and last night it made a little noise! So, baby steps in the right direction!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      Amazing, One step at a time, but some noise is positive.

  • @garybrough1309
    @garybrough1309 5 лет назад +1

    Just thinking of doing my 1975 Yamaha RS100 as a cafe racer, any thoughts? My only concern is cutting off the rear frame loop and not being able to go back standard easily at a later date if i decided to? Any suggestions as to refitting the loop later down the line without welding? I was thinking a sleeve inside the loop either side welded so it can slide back in place and then drill through the frame and use an unthreaded bolt drilled at the end to take a split pin to re-fit later on, meaning an option of either or? Any help appreciated

    • @garybrough1309
      @garybrough1309 5 лет назад

      @Menny Thanks for.tour reply. The sleeve would not be seen when the seat goes back on as it covers it, the only time it is seen is when the seat is up. I shall give this some thought though, thanks again Menny

  • @blakekelley8112
    @blakekelley8112 6 лет назад

    i know this is a little old but im getting a 1981 gs550l in a week and im going to turn it into a cafe racer im so excited

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 лет назад

      Excellent, enjoy the build

  • @teinrubens7785
    @teinrubens7785 2 года назад

    The Honda CB (K or G) is definitely the best coffee racer donor bike if you ask me. But I think you should choose the twin version even if that motor is much smaller, because then you have a much elegant form because the motor isn’t wider than the fuel tank.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  2 года назад

      I do like the sound of them all.

  • @todaystopic3527
    @todaystopic3527 7 лет назад

    XS650 in my opinion tops out this list. Parts availability is insane you can just about build a bike from scratch. Upgrades for this bike are also endless. It's also an easy foundation to start with. Most of the frame mods will be cutting excess bits off. Oh and they sound great too!!

  • @TexasSlinger
    @TexasSlinger 7 лет назад +1

    82 Virago Build presently undertaking. Minimal welding to do if subframes are purchased off the shelf
    definitely need a donor front end
    Wiring can be tricky (Im doing barebones)

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Good luck, I don't envy you doing the wiring from scratch.

  • @DavidMacGregor1
    @DavidMacGregor1 7 лет назад

    I have an 83 Virago - the monoshock version. My experience is limited but have found there are a number of solutions to avoid the issue you describe with welding a new sub-frame - I bought one from an Australian fabricator I found on RUclips. Electrics kind of terrify me - I'm completely ignorant (I can understand things that spin and drive but the magic, invisible power is a mystery) - but, again thanks to RUclips I found a system from a German manufacturer that is completely solid state, does away with mechanical relays - which also resolves the issue of where to relocate parts - it's called a Motogadget M Unit - mine is ordered and on its way to New Zealand now. You should definitely check them out. The web has been amazing - it's like doing an apprenticeship where you can get fired up, but never fired. I enjoy your clips, thanks for your efforts.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Sounds like you've got a good project on the go. I love M-Unit kits but they are so expensive. I'll see if I get one for the CX.

  • @evasesh6585
    @evasesh6585 4 года назад

    I had an 83 Virago 500 monoshock I was working on for a year. Ended up selling it because it got pretty far outside of my current skill set, I would fix 1 thing and something else would go bad. Luckily it went to someone who knows how to work on these bikes. Now I am currently working on an 81 CM400, the subframe on these bikes are really bad so I am fabricating an entirely new subframe to get ride of the weird angles that the stock seat mounts into.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 года назад

      There’s an interesting video from Clasified Moto on their RUclips called ‘last of the XVs’. All the issues they had and why they won’t build them any more

  • @H3nk388
    @H3nk388 4 года назад

    The Virago also comes with either dual shocks or as the modified bike on the list had, a monoshock that goes up under the tank, this makes it so cool when its converted into more of a sport bike! 👍😎 But seems like a Little more advanced and expensive to modifiy then the others

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 года назад +1

      Yes the monoshock version is the one that always fetches more money

  • @my50bike
    @my50bike 7 лет назад

    Have built a CX and GS I agree with your choices there...CX is a very heavy bike though. But I like your choices.

  • @furnimaker
    @furnimaker 7 лет назад

    My project is a 1996 bmw k1100rs. It's kind of a weird choice, but it's a really kind of a strange project though. I'm referring to it as a wasteland scrambler, it's kind of like a post apocalyptic bike built pre apocalypse(so without faux aging, rust, etc). I just loved the look of that flying brick motor, single sided swing arm, and shaft drive. So far I've done a bunch of precision machining(I'm a machinist with access to some pretty fancy equipment), and I'm using some fancy motogadget components, but really in the end I'm hoping to have a purpose-built looking bike rather than something polished.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Sounds good, good luck with your build.

  • @cafesolo6683
    @cafesolo6683 7 лет назад

    Honda XBR500 for me; the purity of an air cooled single, twin shock and mine came with spoked wheels so the build was relatively simple. Still took ages though!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Amazing, yeah what you think is going to be straight forward still takes an age to do. Especially when you have to juggle that around every day work.

    • @cafesolo6683
      @cafesolo6683 7 лет назад

      For The Bold - dreegez Thanks, really enjoyed your build videos. The custom shop cafe racers are lovely but it's all about men in sheds!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Absolutely, with you there. And it's the community around it all, exchanging ideas and build.

  • @johnmeurer4780
    @johnmeurer4780 6 лет назад

    I got a sohc cb750k 1975 for $100 here in the us. Was only the engine and rolling frame, some one took the body parts and electronics and left it out in the woods by their home Litrally. The carbs and points timing was the only thing wrong with the engine, it runs great. Still in the prosses of building it into a cafe racer.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 лет назад +1

      That's super cheap

    • @johnmeurer4780
      @johnmeurer4780 6 лет назад

      @@forthebold I got the bike on the road yesterday and it ran perfect through all 5 gears up to speed. I dont understand why it was parted in the first place. I am the happiest person in the world right now, this is my first bike.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 лет назад +1

      You should be for that price

  • @sebastianvonfreymann2930
    @sebastianvonfreymann2930 7 лет назад

    I´m working on a Suzuki Gr 650 from 1983. Downside of it is that it´s a very rare bike and hence it´s very hard and expensive to find spare parts for it. Also it´s a monoshock rather than a dualshock which I prefer more. The rear frame would also need some modification in the future. Today I´m gonna go pick up a Suzuki Gs tank for it ;) Good side of the Gr is that it has a straight-twin engine like the good old British bikes. One that would be interesting to work with would definitely be the Yamaha Xs.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      I've started a love for monoshocks, I used to really like the bulky back ends of the twin shocks but now I like that void a monoshock creates. Good luck with your build

  • @JTIS-dq6nb
    @JTIS-dq6nb 7 лет назад

    I have a 84 Honda Nighthawk cb650 and a 1980 Suzuki gs550. The Suzuki already has the café look. I would just have to add whatever modifications if I need to. The Honda is stock but I know some of the parts like handle bars, headlight, seat, directional etc. would fit on the Honda. I don't know which bike to choose. Also, is there a way to increase the CCs or horsepower on the GS550

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      To be honest once you've shifted all that extra weight off the bike you'll probably be happy with the bike rather than the expense of increasing the power. I guess compared to new bikes it's not much but I'm more into enjoying the ride and the build than after the power.

  • @californiamonster8877
    @californiamonster8877 4 года назад

    for a 70s inspired i like cb360t.....twin....disc brake...chain...good parts availability

  • @CravingClassics
    @CravingClassics 7 лет назад

    It really does come down to skill! With enough skill anything has potential. I personally like vintage English (bsa, Norton, triumph) 1930s and 40s Indians and Harleys, and for Japanese I had a virago great base, and the Hondas cbs.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      Absolutely, for a beginner I'd recommend a CB. and you're right, with skill and vision anything is possible, even as far as engine swaps.

  • @gethigh961
    @gethigh961 4 года назад

    I really want a virago but only the monoshock model and it‘s super hard to find a reasonably priced one here in switzerland...

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 года назад

      They do go for a hefty price

  • @Reman1975
    @Reman1975 6 лет назад

    The last cafe racer I built (Back in the early 90's) started life as a Suzuki GP100. It was done on the cheap, But I think it turned out quite presentable. The only silly thing I did was at the end with the paint scheme. During the build I was constantly being told by friends that I was silly to be spending all this time modifying a "Toy bike", So as a sort of p*ss take, I painted the frame blue, The tank, mudguards and seat were red, Then the wire wheels were stripped and powder coated bright yellow. I was going to get some "Fisher price" stickers made up for the tank but never got around to it. :)

  • @briggs654321
    @briggs654321 7 лет назад

    A great donor is a rd350. I have a 1973 rd350 that has been comply stripped and wet now weighs about 230 and i put on jl pipes and dg heads with clip on bars and many other parts. She is all black except for the gold heads and gold chain and gold yamaha logos on the tank and is really a sight.There is a lot of forums out there for this bike and two websites dedicated to 70's two strokers.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      Sounds good, can't beat a 2 stroke engine. Your comment came through as I was recording next week's video, so your name will come up on that no doubt Ron Burgundy

    • @briggs654321
      @briggs654321 7 лет назад +1

      Haha awesome I will be looking forward to that!

  • @keirmccarthy8825
    @keirmccarthy8825 5 лет назад

    I’ve just got a zephyr 550 which is good to break down but seat panel etc needs a bit of reshaping

  • @imbojohnson5
    @imbojohnson5 7 лет назад

    currently working on a 1980 kawasaki kz750, she's almost done just have a couple of loose ends i need to get taken care of!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Awesome, sounds like a project well done.

  • @MrGuitarguyadam
    @MrGuitarguyadam 5 лет назад

    I just picked up a GS650 for $350usd. It runs kinda... it needs the infamous ignition piece that I’m just going to upgrade. And a full tune up. It doesn’t look the prettiest right now but it’s all there, it’s gonna be a great project, especially the price!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  5 лет назад

      That's a good price. and yes, a dynatek ignition kit and coils is worth the price.

  • @TheThoraxs
    @TheThoraxs 7 лет назад

    Mate that virago from the top pic is diffrent that one on bottom one. The year older versions of the yamaha xv(before the virago) have different version of the frame(mono shock and twin suspension)

  • @LaurentSparksMusic
    @LaurentSparksMusic 7 лет назад +2

    wow, i saw two viragos for sale for $500 canadian for the bunch, i feel like a bit of a knob passing them up for an ascot now

  • @mattolsen5217
    @mattolsen5217 7 лет назад +3

    Will you please do a bobber version of this?

  • @MladenovAtanas
    @MladenovAtanas 7 лет назад +2

    Hi, i work on my Suzuki dr Big 800. I try to do a scrambler...well maybe not the tipical one, but something that i really ride everyday going to work and on weekends - a make-a-trip bike. I really learn many things from you and the channel! Cheers mate!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Sounds amazing, I'm glad you enjoy the channel, all the best with your scrambler build. Look forward to seeing what it looks like.

  • @JBuss-fl5wq
    @JBuss-fl5wq 7 лет назад

    Singel upper tube on the frame (under the tank) is a thing whorth consider when chosing a bike to build.
    Real proud of my Honda FMX scrambler. But reasantly I got a scratch on building a Transalp whit V-shaped upper frame, so I'd be glad fore a tip in case I cant hold myselfe :)

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Gutted about the scratch, I did the same on the front fork after powder coating when my screwdriver slipped.!

  • @davidrayner9832
    @davidrayner9832 5 лет назад

    The Honda CB-750 if you want 4 cylinders. If you want a single to have a modern version of say, A Matchless G-50 then it's a Yamaha XT or TT-500. If you want a modern version of a Triumph twin, it's the number 1 bike to do anything with, Yamaha XS-650. Just my opinion.

  • @possum66669
    @possum66669 7 лет назад

    I own a sym wolf classic 150cc and it pretty much a cafe racer out of the box really inexpensive model after the honda cb125s quality built with a 2 years parts and labor warranty weather your a beginner or we'll seasoned you can't go wrong with it and it goes highway speed and gets 85mpg but you have to run 91octain

  • @the_marvinc
    @the_marvinc 2 года назад

    I have the Honda Rebel 500 and although a beautiful bike I really want to change the naked/cruiser style to more of a cafe racer look. Started getting worried it wasn’t going to be possible you definitely gave me hope. Any tips or tricks to what to look out for would be greatly appreciated! Thanks again in Advance

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  2 года назад

      Amazing. As long as this give you inspiration. Start small and work your way up

  • @Tolis-py2dc
    @Tolis-py2dc 5 лет назад

    virago,everyone is looking to modify the monoshock one from '82-'84,and not the dual shock.If someone makes a little bit of search,he'll find out that only one or two dual shock viragos have been customised as C.R.
    The dual-shock has a better frame and in general a better engine(the e-starter on the monoshock is problematic),and for last,Viragos are pretty cheap here in Greece,compared to the other models you mentioned.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  5 лет назад

      A good video to check out is classified Moto and their ‘last of the XV’ video.

    • @Tolis-py2dc
      @Tolis-py2dc 5 лет назад

      @@forthebold thank you.

  • @SGTJDerek
    @SGTJDerek 7 лет назад

    Kawasaki's 250 makes a damn good looking Cafe style Bike. Especially for someone with limited experience. BCB makes a great kit. I'd just want to add a headlight fairing from the Harley catalogue.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      Good choice. I'll check the kit out for a look.

  • @alexquach3620
    @alexquach3620 7 лет назад +5

    I'm working on a kz650, but I really want to work on a smaller displacement bike like a Honda cr250.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      It is a heavy bike the Kz, similar to the GS550

    • @brianwilkins8802
      @brianwilkins8802 7 лет назад

      I also own a KZ650 and am wanting to convert it over to a cafe racer. It's a '78 with a strange angular gas tank. If you're switching out the tank what tank are you going for?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Personally I like quirky gas tanks, I like the blue one I've featured on this video. ruclips.net/video/R7bE2ptuLmQ/видео.html

    • @Masochemist
      @Masochemist 6 лет назад

      Brian Wilkins kz650sr. You still working on it?

  • @bmzcabana
    @bmzcabana 6 лет назад

    I got a virago handed down from a friend and it's my first bike I'm turning in to a cafe racer

  • @JCSuperstarr78
    @JCSuperstarr78 7 лет назад +1

    What are your thought on the Kawasaki KZ650/kz750? I could get my hands on a twin 750, but straight fours are a dime a dozen.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      +Juan Lopez I think the more variety there are in the cafe racer building scene the better it's going to get. A lot of cb fours and viragos etc. So definitely open for more alternative bikes

  • @enuguthirumalreddy44
    @enuguthirumalreddy44 5 лет назад

    Im from india here we have a bike called yamaha rx 100, and it is mostly moded motorcycle in india ,could you please a vedio on it and can we like fit engine of any size into the frame of any bike.

  • @Guitargeek626
    @Guitargeek626 7 лет назад

    thanks for the videos it's nice to find a build that's not a cb. I have a 78 gs450 that I'm going to turn into a brat and I've gotten so much of the knowledge needed to do this from your videos. thanks and keep up the good work

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      I'm glad they've helped you. I think CB is the natural choice for cafe racers as they already have that look without doing too much. The GS is a trickier bike I think as at times it's pretty clumsy looking, but I like mine.

  • @jase4452
    @jase4452 6 лет назад

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but on a couple of those bikes it looks like the geometry of the front ends are a little different. Or could it just be shorter forks?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 лет назад

      They've pretty much all had new forks.

  • @edwardgiovannelli5191
    @edwardgiovannelli5191 7 лет назад

    Suzuki 650 Savage / Boulevard L40. Such a beautiful thumper motor that you can do nearly anything with. The frame and running gear is shite, so to do it up right is almost as involved as a Virago, possibly more, but the versatility of that lump is inspiring!

  • @whitetiger214
    @whitetiger214 7 лет назад

    I'm looking at CB550 one cropped up in Blackpool near me but went for silly money.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      They usually do, more than they're really worth.

  • @nermket4849
    @nermket4849 7 лет назад

    You said that the virago goes for $1,000 where you are, but they do in the US too. Perhaps it's more common to find them for less in the US, but I'm sure it still costs less than a bonneville (and if I'm wrong, at least you can buy a bonneville for less than a virago lol).

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      A Bonneville here is serious money, no hope for many builders :(

  • @ipmoroca
    @ipmoroca 7 лет назад

    Just stumbled across your channel after I was looking for a Suzuki GN 125 build, your other videos are great that explains the designs and such. Keep it up, love the tip number 5 - Don't Give Up

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Thanks, yeah number 5 is important :)

  • @paulbuckberry7683
    @paulbuckberry7683 7 лет назад

    I have a K1100RS in the garage and am undecided whether to leave it stock or strip it out!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Entirely up to you and how you want the bike to look. Also depends on the condition. There'll become a point where all these stock bikes will no longer exist.

  • @theonlyawwsnaps7597
    @theonlyawwsnaps7597 7 лет назад

    For the Viragos, 81-83 was the only years it was made as a monoshock. Keep that in mind...

  • @waynepetterson7514
    @waynepetterson7514 7 лет назад

    I have a 1981 Yamaha 550 SECA that was laid over all the fiberglass is gone now every thing is dented but it runs good still would this be a good start?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      Absolutely, if it starts then it's half the job.

  • @shaunelliott3759
    @shaunelliott3759 6 лет назад

    My current build is a ZX6R 1997, this will be my 6th "Café Racer" in a row, although I don't build to sell I've been fortunate enough that people (posers) chase me down and have offered me real good money. I've hit the problem you discribe, the better looking bikes now cost too much, so I've moved on to 80's and 90's, but with a bit of imagination and a reasonable skill level you can create something credible. It's a shame the " buy em can't build em " brigade are paying so much for ready built that it's pushing up the prices of even the "Vanilla" bikes, sorry CX500 included, don't get me wrong, looks cool, but it will never be a performance bike, I think later stuff is going to change the way "Café Racers" will evolve into a more modern version of the classic.
    Nice stuff by the way.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 лет назад

      They have gone up in price. I'm not too bothered with performance too much hence the CX500, it's more a styling thing for me and easy riding.

  • @randomman818
    @randomman818 7 лет назад

    Just got my kz1000 running last night. Gonna do some more tinkering but she's basically ready

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Hey amazing, what was wrong with it in the end?

    • @randomman818
      @randomman818 7 лет назад

      For The Bold - dreegez Coil packs were bad so I replaced them with some packs from a parts bike I bought. Started right up. I just have to tune the carbs which I have no idea how to do

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Do you have carb synchers? The manual should help you with factory settings also.

    • @randomman818
      @randomman818 7 лет назад

      For The Bold - dreegez I do not but I have a friend who knows how to do it so I'll ask him to show me.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      You'll get there, keep going ;)

  • @adamkeithfreitas6812
    @adamkeithfreitas6812 7 лет назад

    I grabbed a lot of CB's recently (2-cb350f's, cb350, cb360t and a cb650custom) they are still out there. ;)

  • @victorhumphrey7127
    @victorhumphrey7127 4 года назад

    I’m building a Suzuki GS 550 myself, what silencers did you use in your build? I really like those and would like to put them on mine but the link on the earlier video is no longer good

  • @laurencedavila5777
    @laurencedavila5777 7 лет назад

    nice videos, it helps a lot, what do you think of a Royal Enfield Bullet or Classic 350, as a cafe racer or scrambler project?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      Yeah absolutely, I think they could.

    • @laurencedavila5777
      @laurencedavila5777 7 лет назад

      thanks! I will update you when my build starts ...keep up the good work!

  • @victorstefan9877
    @victorstefan9877 4 года назад

    bro you put the rong pic on the virago!!! up you have the virago xv535 and down is the virago xv750.just for info :)

  • @warner6495
    @warner6495 5 лет назад

    How do you get the tanks so level on all these back swooping bikes?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  5 лет назад

      Raise the height of the rear and drop the front

  • @TGreenie29
    @TGreenie29 7 лет назад

    I would like to add the yamaha special twins and triples. easy to customize and get parts.

  • @alphaTrader.oo1
    @alphaTrader.oo1 7 лет назад +1

    Honda CB four is good, how bout Honda CBX750?

  • @2remaynSPorter
    @2remaynSPorter 4 года назад

    I have just acquired a 1980 GS750 and want to know if you have any ideas for my cafe racer build?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 года назад +1

      Congrats just do what you feel is right

  • @ni3walia315
    @ni3walia315 7 лет назад

    hi . I am going to built scrambler in Yamaha RX 135 . but I really don't know that where I start from and what kind of look I give to him it's my first small project and I don't want to screw that all . will u help me or sujest me so.e thing or tips

  • @Lichterdusche
    @Lichterdusche 7 лет назад

    I have a Yamaha XS650 447 from 1972. But I can't decide if I should rather build a cafe racer or a scrambler.. What would you suggest?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      To be honest this would suit either. What does your gut say? I think scrambler has more originality, you could even go brat style or like Blitz motorcycles do.

  • @colin-qp4zr
    @colin-qp4zr 7 лет назад

    what do you think of Yamaha Diversion 900? ..its a nice package and you get them cheap but I dont think Ive seen a nice cafe-ed one.

  • @ryanw1223
    @ryanw1223 6 лет назад

    What are your thoughts on Honda Nighthawks? I see them every wear for very cheap. What would you do with one. I like modern cruisers/ bobbers but I’ve seen incredible cafe racer projects on the nighthawk.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 лет назад

      They're ok, a different frame to these but any bike I think is good as long as you like it.

  • @macpk01
    @macpk01 7 лет назад

    Would you rather have a 81 Virago 750 w/monoshock that doesn't run or a 82 Yamaha XJ550 that comes with a parts bike? Same price XJ just need a little more

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      All depends on why the Virago doesn't run. The Virago is a more striking bike. But it'll need a lot more done to it and a lot more money thrown at it. XJ would be a straight forward project hopefully.

  • @Shutchohole
    @Shutchohole 7 лет назад

    Ive got a 77 xs650 that Ive torn down to bare frame. Im torn between going cafe or brat. The other option would be hard tail, but at 40 years old (the bike and I) I probably wouldnt enjoy the back pain. Your thoughts? I originally bought it because I wanted a triumph (without the cost). It gets me the look, just need to make up my mind.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      +David Vaughn personally I'd never enjoy a hard tail ride, especially with uk roads. Be nice to see it in brat form

    • @Shutchohole
      @Shutchohole 7 лет назад +1

      For The Bold - dreegez i was thinking the same, personally ive been off of a bike for so long, i think i will put a brat style seat on. Get the motor rebuilt (its ran once in 16 years before i tore it down), re lace the wheels and get it on the road. Then wait til next winter for the bigger transformation.
      I assume the motor will need at least a re ring and gasket set, and a chain tensioner after sitting that long.
      Btw you got a new subscriber here. Got a lot of videos to catch up on.

  • @JTIS-dq6nb
    @JTIS-dq6nb 7 лет назад

    What would I need to remove in order to increase the speed? I definitely love the look of the cafe already. At this point, it's just the speed/CCs/ and or horsepower i want to increase

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      I guess compared to today's bikes old bikes like these won't be as fast them. Removing heavy items will help, but try engine replacements also with bigger engines.

  • @CLINTSTER77COX
    @CLINTSTER77COX 3 года назад

    Any thoughts on 72 Yamaha tx500 ? Have only seen mild builds ? I have a couple but haven’t touched in 10 years

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  3 года назад +1

      Nice but probably worth more kept original?

  • @solomonasensi2713
    @solomonasensi2713 6 лет назад

    i have here a kawasaki gpz 400c and planning to convert it to cafe racer
    and dont have any idea how to start with it,,or trying to figure out how will i turn it to cafe racer bcoz of it frame and tank design..
    looking for any suggestions with you guys..?
    hoping to get some advice..thanks

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 лет назад

      Best place I can advise is Pinterest, loads of great ideas there.

  • @Weewoo14
    @Weewoo14 6 лет назад

    I just got a 1975 Honda cb360 and ready to start the journey!

  • @amirulzikri8709
    @amirulzikri8709 5 лет назад

    I have a complete suzuki txr panther 150 gamma that been sit in my garage for so long , can i build a cafe racer out of it?

  • @pontius1666
    @pontius1666 7 лет назад

    Do you think it would be hard to start a cafe racer project with a 1983 honda cb900 custom?

    • @DovlandRally
      @DovlandRally 7 лет назад

      do it!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Yup, like Mud Plug says, do it, I think that would be a safe choice.

  • @STARCROSSEDMOTO
    @STARCROSSEDMOTO 4 года назад

    Does anyone know how I could mount the tank from a 1985 Honda cb650 onto the frame of a 1981 Honda cb750? The 650 tank has meaning to me so I want to use it.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 года назад +1

      You can mount most tanks onto most bikes. Both being Honda would give you a start at least.

    • @STARCROSSEDMOTO
      @STARCROSSEDMOTO 4 года назад

      @@forthebold Thank you. Welding is not my strong suit, so I was looking to do more of swapping things out as opposed to truly modifying and fabricating things.

  • @rodhigh7
    @rodhigh7 7 лет назад

    You skipped my favorite although probably pretty hard to source nowadays. The Norton featherbed frame with the Triumph OHV twin...

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      I think most bikes are becoming either rare or expensive nowadays. I guess it's supply and demand that drives up the price.

  • @rajatrana9893
    @rajatrana9893 7 лет назад

    sir i want make a bike..bt i don't know how to make ??so can u tell me from biggning....how to make fram than how to fit engine on tht frame .tall tha majermant also .

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      +Rajat Rana best way to learn is to get a donor bike, strip it down slowly, document where all the pieces go, then put it back together and learn what each component does piece by piece. That's the best advice I can give

  • @dannysweet7775
    @dannysweet7775 6 лет назад +1

    love this channel! Been watching it everyday for the past week, got a good idea how im going to start my project, thank you sir!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 лет назад

      Amazing, glad you've been enjoying it, all the best with yours.

  • @ZippoVarga
    @ZippoVarga 5 лет назад

    Currently in my stable here in the US is quite a list FTB. Oldest to Newest....
    1973 CB350 Four 100% original with 11K miles
    1974 CL200 Basket Case (Future Cafe or Brat) Naked Goldwing
    1975 GL1000 100% original also Naked Goldwing
    1975 GL1000 Parts Bike
    1975 CB550 Four very slightly modified. I'd say 75% original
    1986 GL1200 Fully Dressed Goldwing
    2003 Yamaha V-Star 1100 Classic, 100% Original with just 5,500 miles
    2004 GL1800 fully dressed and comfort fitted for long trips with trailer
    Plans?
    CB550F will get a mild Cafe` "Ish" build
    CB350F will always stay 100% Original as it's a time capsule.
    Three older Goldwing's are up for sale
    CL200 will eventually be a full Cafe or Brat build
    Yamaha V-Star is the in town cruiser
    GL1800 is the Long Haul Comfort car on two wheels.
    When I run out of room, I sell off the bikes that get the least attention to make room for others on my wish list. Right now, CB750 K0 or K1 and a CB900C are the last two I'm wanting to add to the stable. Cheers and thanks for your time put into this video! Zip~

  • @MartyUlrich
    @MartyUlrich 7 лет назад

    Nice I can get a 77 Suzuki GS550 in my neck of the woods for $600 today. Glad to know it's a solid bike

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      It is a good bike. Only things to look out for (like with any old bike) pre 1980s charging system if you're looking to add a lithium battery, old rubber that needs replacing and the trouble with ignition points and carbs.

    • @MartyUlrich
      @MartyUlrich 7 лет назад

      The guy who has it has the carbs tuned, and of course recommended upgrading the ignition. Other than that, all it needed was a new front tire and it was ready to ride, or modify. Was going to trade my 4 wheeler for it, but he wasn't interested. Now I'm getting a 77 Yamaha XS650 with only 10,000 miles. It will need everything, but it's been stored inside all these years.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      Amazing, if it's running fine for you then it's half the battle done. I've just come across an issue with mine where the rubber manifold intake boots have finally given up the will to live. Thats my next expense on the bike. Good luck with yours.

  • @quiquedclHD
    @quiquedclHD 7 лет назад

    BMW K100 looks the part when modified, plus it's great fun getting rid of the fairings.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      +Quique Dalmau yeah it's a neat bike under all that

  • @bradley21wood
    @bradley21wood 4 года назад

    What’re your thoughts on the Royal Enfield Bullet 500?

  • @eralpveli2753
    @eralpveli2753 6 лет назад

    Hi. I discovered and subscribed to you while looking at the cafe racer bike. I will start a new project next months. Do you know about cb600 hornet? Would you recommend me the bike? Is it easy to convert to cafe racer style?

  • @whitetiger214
    @whitetiger214 7 лет назад

    Where do you buy your bikes from? do you go to the auto sales or go through contacts?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      To be honest just from looking around on ads.

  • @stephengood6663
    @stephengood6663 7 лет назад

    I am new to the motorcycle club, but I am looking into buying a Yamaha xs400 for my first cafe project. Would you recommend a different starter bike or is the Yamaha a good first project??

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад +1

      That's a perfectly good bike, nice frame and pretty straight forward build.

    • @stephengood6663
      @stephengood6663 7 лет назад

      Fantastic, thanks for your input!

  • @tomkinge8326
    @tomkinge8326 7 лет назад

    Is it possible to build a cafe racer from a newer bike? Say a 2000's cb??

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 лет назад

      Yeah absolutely, nothing to stop you.