Thank you John! I really wanted to work the tones but basically set all pickup options to "flat" to give a transparent demo on how they sound. And yes I had fun doing the ending bit!
Thank you very much for this video. The sound difference between the first half and second half of the video is huge. Going into two amps makes a big difference. I would like to get your view on something: I have an intermediate gypsy jazz guitar, on which I learn gypsy jazz. Overall I am interested in many kinds of music and I have various kinds of intermediate quality acoustic-electric guitars. I do not plan to be a professional gypsy jazz guitarist, but I try to develop myself into an advanced guitarist capable in various genres, making particular use of gypsy jazz techniques. In this direction, I want to get into a position to be able to participate in gigs and make recordings with a gypsy jazz guitar, but mostly at a semi-professional level for personal projects. Do you think that it makes sense for me to invest in buying this guitar or buy a quality acoustic gypsy jazz guitar? Even if I'm not a professional guitarist, would this guitar make it easy for me to develop my technique, practice on loops and make recordings at home? (And of course I can bring it to gigs without worrying too much about details.) Or is it always better to have a solid quality acoustic gypsy jazz guitar first? Is it better to buy a Godin or a solid guitar manouche, if you have only 2000 USD to spend? =)
Here's my take. The Godin Gypsy is a great guitar especially for live use. I used it in the Mystere show here in Las Vegas. Live applications is it's strength- BUT if it was me starting out in gypsy jazz I would get a proper good gypsy jazz acoustic guitar. Overall a better starting point imo to learn, practice technique and really get that gypsy sound. Plus acoustic jamming is such a huge fun part of gypsy jazz and a true GJ acoustic would serve you well. I think the Godin would be too quiet overall even though it does have a little acoustic sound to it. Now the challenge with the GJ guitar is getting a pickup for it. I use a Peche a la Mouche attachable pickup, and there's other options as well. And with both the Godin and GJ gtr a good acoustic amp will serve you well too! That's my opinion let me know what you decide!
@@mundojuillerat Actually I had aggreed with your suggestion, however when I tried the guitar second time (this time with proper 0.11 Savarez strings and in a studio environment), I realized it actually sound very well unplugged. The sound is not so harsh plugged-in, when balanced properly. So it is nice to have lots of options for someone who is not a pure gypsy guitarist. Also, the neck is super fast! Both the feel and thinness actually might help me to develop my technique further, if it would allow me to play more. Maybe not the pure gypsy-jazz technique, but I don't think I care too much about that. As you say in another comment, it allows you to attack heavily - so it is not a delicate thin-neck instrument and it might even allow to develop one's proper gypsy jazz technique. The low volume might also work in favor of me in terms of technique, because in my apartment I cannot really attack heavily on my normal gypsy jazz guitar as it makes lots of sound. Because of these reasons, I was tempted and acquired this guitar. I already have a chinese made cheap (but OK) gypsy jazz guitar, which I can bring to jams, and I thought I would use this guitar most of the remaining time - both for practice, recording and also if I would have a proper gig. I hope I made a good choice. Thank you for your video again. It was really helpful - I believe some of the videos about the guitar make a wrong and negative impression. The guitar is actually very well sounding, both acoustically and also plugged in - it is just not so easy to get the tone you want, but one should really make some effort for it and should not really turn on the volume too much, if it is not necessary. As the guitar is very powerful, it might help to turn down the volume a little bit and adjust the volume with one's attack or from the master volume of the amp without too much gain.
Nice playing! So having played an acoustic GJ instrument and now playing this one, do you feel like you have to lighten up or can you still really dig in? Considering this guitar but worried that my playing style is too aggressive.
Thanks Kevin and the short answer is both. I can still dig in aggressively. This guitar is dual chambered and while not as loud as a normal GJ guitar you still get a GJ sound and play off the dynamics that an acoustic get offers. So digging in aggressively the gtr will respond. Also thru an amp or PA I guess you could turn down and dig in. Raising the action will always give better tone and whilst using proper technique you still have to dig in with GJ axes.....Now for lightening up! I’m trying to lighten up my picking hand because my right arms feels better after a gig or a long practice session hah! I make sure I’m using the appropriate rest stroke-gravity-GJ picking. This guitar has been awesome facilitating that as well. Recently my band The Hot Club of Las Vegas has a few 4 to 6 hour gigs-turned out to be about 4-5 long sets. They were fun yet loud crowd gigs and I let the gtr (pickups, mic, and lipstick) and amp (and PA) do their job without trying to muscle thru on my end. Sorry for the long response. Let me know if this helps?!
Mundo Juillerat - thank you...and yes, that’s a big help. I’ve considered going this route to ease the pain of long gigs but also need to dig in occasionally just because it feels right. I’ll keep watching out for more vids for sure!
It is and it isn't- I feel the internal mic is essential to the overall "authentic" tone. As will all internal mics in some live situations you could get feedback if you turn it up too much. And that's the issue. Are you playing a nice controlled live environment with soundman or a noisy bar type of gig? I find with the Hot Club of Las Vegas I'm using both outputs into my AER amp the the sound guys/house gets the amp DI. This way I'm flexible to dial in the best sound available for that day's gig. One thing I'm not too sure of is if you do get enough volume from the internal mic does it cut the mix? Or the mix for your band etc? I'm mainly talking from a lead gtr position and that's why the 2 outputs are great. Our rhythm player just uses one output and blends to taste and is very happy. Let me know what you learn and thank you for the question
Jolie guitare mais Ca sonne vraiment pas super en acoustique. Autant acheter une occaz à 1000 euros et y mettre un stimer.. ça serait plus intelligent selon moi.
Trovo scandaloso che una chitarra di pregio non abbia uno straccio di istruzioni in italiano .E dire che non costa poco .anche l’importatore mi ha liquidato freddamente ed in malo modo dimostrando poca voglia di lavorare. Sono letteralmente incazzato con questa gente che non segue i clienti
Très bon guitariste de manouche mais absolument pas convaincu par les sons. Trop de compresseur et des sons petits. Cette guitare "manouche" ne me semble pas vraiment être faite pour avoir un son manouche, malgré une réussite esthétique etc.. prêtre que je me trompe....
Basic acoustic gypsy jazz guitar sounds way better than this crap. Are u kidding me over 2k for this? Don’t fall for this. This doesn’t have a good tone for gypsy jazz sound at all.
Guitars, tone, etc are always a subjective subject- but for me this Godin has a great tone for gypsy jazz. If you don't like the way it sounds here on the vid, then it's all on me and my engineering. Does it sound as good as my Dell'Artes or Holo guitars? No it doesn't but is an accurate feel and sound for live applications. It is dual chambered and has an authentic sound. Not as loud as a proper gypsy axe but better sounding than a lot of other sub $2000 GJ guitars. The beauty of this axe is I can leave my $5000 dollar guitar home for a lot of the crazy demanding gigs my band The Hot Club of Las Vegas does. I've spent a small fortune on mics, Bigtone, Stimers, Peche a la Mouche pickups, Ishall contact mics, Schaller installed pickup, etc.... and they work ok. At the moment I can't keep the Peche pickup from sliding off during the gig. Godin Guitars were awesome to involve Denis Chang in this design. I played the prototype last year and this version with Denis' input is great. This guitar gives me three different options built in to play live. The under saddle bridge, internal mic and lipstick pickup. Getting back to real world live solutions my band works professionally in many different situations. We don't have the luxury to always have a great sound man who can mic the band and really fine tune the right gypsy band sound. In those cases I use my Holo and it's a blast! And we don't play concerts exclusively...Last week we played a classy yet loud bar for a Hollywood celebrity event. During soundcheck I dialed in a great acoustic sound with the Godin, only to have it disappear when the club was packed and noisy. Being able to dial in the lipstick pickup gave it some focus and cut thru the house. ( I posted this on my SM pages and there's a lot of positive comments on the sound) Professionally (trying to put food on the table ) we say yes to all types of gigs. We often stand because the client (who doesn't understand gypsy jazz requests us to stand) and I appreciate Godin putting star pins/buttons on the guitar.....Recently we've played a cocktail party for a 1000 people with small PA, a corporate buffet for 1500 with soundman, another cocktail party in inside a glass walled lobby, multi-band stages with no acoustic amps in the backline, rehearsal with an orchestra for an upcoming gig, not to mention gigs where the audio company never receives our stage plot and we have to improvise our set up on the fly. Last week we did the NAMM show concert with sound man and then on the NAMM show floor with electric guitar amps. This guitar finds a way to fit every live situation and play every gig without complaining or pointing fingers- it's been a dream solution for performing Gypsy Jazz.
Great concise demo displaying all the various tonal options with a slice of humor. Bravo!
Thank you John! I really wanted to work the tones but basically set all pickup options to "flat" to give a transparent demo on how they sound. And yes I had fun doing the ending bit!
Great playing and fabulous demo of all the features, thank you
Thank you so much. Appreciate it!
Excellent performance and demo .... I really enjoyed this!
luthier47 thank you! Definitely my hardest vid to play and make.
Thank you very much for this video. The sound difference between the first half and second half of the video is huge. Going into two amps makes a big difference. I would like to get your view on something: I have an intermediate gypsy jazz guitar, on which I learn gypsy jazz. Overall I am interested in many kinds of music and I have various kinds of intermediate quality acoustic-electric guitars. I do not plan to be a professional gypsy jazz guitarist, but I try to develop myself into an advanced guitarist capable in various genres, making particular use of gypsy jazz techniques. In this direction, I want to get into a position to be able to participate in gigs and make recordings with a gypsy jazz guitar, but mostly at a semi-professional level for personal projects. Do you think that it makes sense for me to invest in buying this guitar or buy a quality acoustic gypsy jazz guitar? Even if I'm not a professional guitarist, would this guitar make it easy for me to develop my technique, practice on loops and make recordings at home? (And of course I can bring it to gigs without worrying too much about details.) Or is it always better to have a solid quality acoustic gypsy jazz guitar first? Is it better to buy a Godin or a solid guitar manouche, if you have only 2000 USD to spend? =)
Here's my take. The Godin Gypsy is a great guitar especially for live use. I used it in the Mystere show here in Las Vegas. Live applications is it's strength- BUT if it was me starting out in gypsy jazz I would get a proper good gypsy jazz acoustic guitar. Overall a better starting point imo to learn, practice technique and really get that gypsy sound. Plus acoustic jamming is such a huge fun part of gypsy jazz and a true GJ acoustic would serve you well. I think the Godin would be too quiet overall even though it does have a little acoustic sound to it. Now the challenge with the GJ guitar is getting a pickup for it. I use a Peche a la Mouche attachable pickup, and there's other options as well. And with both the Godin and GJ gtr a good acoustic amp will serve you well too! That's my opinion let me know what you decide!
@@mundojuillerat Actually I had aggreed with your suggestion, however when I tried the guitar second time (this time with proper 0.11 Savarez strings and in a studio environment), I realized it actually sound very well unplugged. The sound is not so harsh plugged-in, when balanced properly. So it is nice to have lots of options for someone who is not a pure gypsy guitarist. Also, the neck is super fast! Both the feel and thinness actually might help me to develop my technique further, if it would allow me to play more. Maybe not the pure gypsy-jazz technique, but I don't think I care too much about that. As you say in another comment, it allows you to attack heavily - so it is not a delicate thin-neck instrument and it might even allow to develop one's proper gypsy jazz technique. The low volume might also work in favor of me in terms of technique, because in my apartment I cannot really attack heavily on my normal gypsy jazz guitar as it makes lots of sound. Because of these reasons, I was tempted and acquired this guitar. I already have a chinese made cheap (but OK) gypsy jazz guitar, which I can bring to jams, and I thought I would use this guitar most of the remaining time - both for practice, recording and also if I would have a proper gig. I hope I made a good choice. Thank you for your video again. It was really helpful - I believe some of the videos about the guitar make a wrong and negative impression. The guitar is actually very well sounding, both acoustically and also plugged in - it is just not so easy to get the tone you want, but one should really make some effort for it and should not really turn on the volume too much, if it is not necessary. As the guitar is very powerful, it might help to turn down the volume a little bit and adjust the volume with one's attack or from the master volume of the amp without too much gain.
Congrats on your guitar! I use mine in the Mystere show in Las Vegas! Fantastic pro guitar!!
Very nice demo, what's the name of the song ?
El Amin Ouzzane it’s called La Gitane by Paul “Tchan Tchou” Vidal. Thank you!
@@mundojuillerat thank you, I love your playing style!
Nice playing! So having played an acoustic GJ instrument and now playing this one, do you feel like you have to lighten up or can you still really dig in? Considering this guitar but worried that my playing style is too aggressive.
Thanks Kevin and the short answer is both. I can still dig in aggressively. This guitar is dual chambered and while not as loud as a normal GJ guitar you still get a GJ sound and play off the dynamics that an acoustic get offers. So digging in aggressively the gtr will respond. Also thru an amp or PA I guess you could turn down and dig in. Raising the action will always give better tone and whilst using proper technique you still have to dig in with GJ axes.....Now for lightening up! I’m trying to lighten up my picking hand because my right arms feels better after a gig or a long practice session hah! I make sure I’m using the appropriate rest stroke-gravity-GJ picking. This guitar has been awesome facilitating that as well. Recently my band The Hot Club of Las Vegas has a few 4 to 6 hour gigs-turned out to be about 4-5 long sets. They were fun yet loud crowd gigs and I let the gtr (pickups, mic, and lipstick) and amp (and PA) do their job without trying to muscle thru on my end. Sorry for the long response. Let me know if this helps?!
Mundo Juillerat - thank you...and yes, that’s a big help. I’ve considered going this route to ease the pain of long gigs but also need to dig in occasionally just because it feels right. I’ll keep watching out for more vids for sure!
Great demo. Is the internal mic on its own a viable live sound?
It is and it isn't- I feel the internal mic is essential to the overall "authentic" tone. As will all internal mics in some live situations you could get feedback if you turn it up too much. And that's the issue. Are you playing a nice controlled live environment with soundman or a noisy bar type of gig? I find with the Hot Club of Las Vegas I'm using both outputs into my AER amp the the sound guys/house gets the amp DI. This way I'm flexible to dial in the best sound available for that day's gig. One thing I'm not too sure of is if you do get enough volume from the internal mic does it cut the mix? Or the mix for your band etc? I'm mainly talking from a lead gtr position and that's why the 2 outputs are great. Our rhythm player just uses one output and blends to taste and is very happy. Let me know what you learn and thank you for the question
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Jolie guitare mais Ca sonne vraiment pas super en acoustique. Autant acheter une occaz à 1000 euros et y mettre un stimer.. ça serait plus intelligent selon moi.
Trovo scandaloso che una chitarra di pregio non abbia uno straccio di istruzioni in italiano .E dire che non costa poco .anche l’importatore mi ha liquidato freddamente ed in malo modo dimostrando poca voglia di lavorare. Sono letteralmente incazzato con questa gente che non segue i clienti
Très bon guitariste de manouche mais absolument pas convaincu par les sons. Trop de compresseur et des sons petits. Cette guitare "manouche" ne me semble pas vraiment être faite pour avoir un son manouche, malgré une réussite esthétique etc.. prêtre que je me trompe....
nice playing! But that guitar sounds truly awful. I couldn't imagine having to listen to a whole set with that thing.
Basic acoustic gypsy jazz guitar sounds way better than this crap. Are u kidding me over 2k for this? Don’t fall for this. This doesn’t have a good tone for gypsy jazz sound at all.
Guitars, tone, etc are always a subjective subject- but for me this Godin has a great tone for gypsy jazz. If you don't like the way it sounds here on the vid, then it's all on me and my engineering.
Does it sound as good as my Dell'Artes or Holo guitars? No it doesn't but is an accurate feel and sound for live applications. It is dual chambered and has an authentic sound. Not as loud as a proper gypsy axe but better sounding than a lot of other sub $2000 GJ guitars. The beauty of this axe is I can leave my $5000 dollar guitar home for a lot of the crazy demanding gigs my band The Hot Club of Las Vegas does. I've spent a small fortune on mics, Bigtone, Stimers, Peche a la Mouche pickups, Ishall contact mics, Schaller installed pickup, etc.... and they work ok. At the moment I can't keep the Peche pickup from sliding off during the gig. Godin Guitars were awesome to involve Denis Chang in this design. I played the prototype last year and this version with Denis' input is great. This guitar gives me three different options built in to play live. The under saddle bridge, internal mic and lipstick pickup.
Getting back to real world live solutions my band works professionally in many different situations. We don't have the luxury to always have a great sound man who can mic the band and really fine tune the right gypsy band sound. In those cases I use my Holo and it's a blast! And we don't play concerts exclusively...Last week we played a classy yet loud bar for a Hollywood celebrity event. During soundcheck I dialed in a great acoustic sound with the Godin, only to have it disappear when the club was packed and noisy. Being able to dial in the lipstick pickup gave it some focus and cut thru the house. ( I posted this on my SM pages and there's a lot of positive comments on the sound)
Professionally (trying to put food on the table ) we say yes to all types of gigs. We often stand because the client (who doesn't understand gypsy jazz requests us to stand) and I appreciate Godin putting star pins/buttons on the guitar.....Recently we've played a cocktail party for a 1000 people with small PA, a corporate buffet for 1500 with soundman, another cocktail party in inside a glass walled lobby, multi-band stages with no acoustic amps in the backline, rehearsal with an orchestra for an upcoming gig, not to mention gigs where the audio company never receives our stage plot and we have to improvise our set up on the fly. Last week we did the NAMM show concert with sound man and then on the NAMM show floor with electric guitar amps. This guitar finds a way to fit every live situation and play every gig without complaining or pointing fingers- it's been a dream solution for performing Gypsy Jazz.