Harley Davidson Sportster 1200 First Ride and Review!
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Have you ridden the 2020 lowrider s or any of the other years after that?
Deag them
How’s that loose drive belt?
Love your Videos gotta say which one should I buy first since I don't have motorcycle yet riding shoes or riding jacket? so I have a chance to win your raffles
100% would love to see this drag race against the Royal Enfield INT650!
Oh like when they race turtles for fun
@@tonytesoriero1242 Got to know who is the slowest of the slow.
The HD even though is heavier...and it's a HD..... should be able to out accelerate the RE due to the 20 extra HP of the Hemorrhoid Davidson.
Both overweight and under powered.
Having ridden both on the same day I can say the RE is significantly slower.
I have a 1995, 1200 Sportster, love it and I am the original owner. Used to commonly do 500mile trips each way on the weekends (when I had and iron butt, I can't do it anymore). Was my first and only Harley. Sportster is a great bike for the vertically challenged. I agree about the foot controls, get a kit to move them forward and you will enjoy the bike a lot more.
the sportster is like riding a 69 camaro compared to a liter bike being a modern sportscar. there are many people who would love the 69 camaro over a modern sportscar even though it would get beat in just about every aspect. thats what the sportster brings, that nostalgic classic feel.
Everyone says that till they own for a couple years then they just say it’s junk
Agreed, I’ve had mine since 2019 I still love the thing. I might get a dresser again but I’m content with the sporty and the R1 I have now.
@@monkmoto1887 I love mine aside from better brakes and different suspension I wouldn’t change much. I don’t ride it hard though I’m not terribly concerned
@@monkmoto1887 EvErYoNe SaYs ThAt… bro just accept that people can like harleys 🤦🏼♂️buddy of mine stunted his 1200 out and it fucking rips 🤷🏼♂️
@@monkmoto1887 i have a 2008 sportster 883 and a 2020 z900 along with a 2017 Chinese hawk 250 that i bought and built new. aside from visual mods on the sportster, ive only had to replace the kickstand spring, and can contest to it being the farthest thing from a piece of junk. it is a very high quality motorcycle, it just doesnt perform nowhere near my z900. ive gotten more complements on the sportster than i have the z900 as well.
Once again the noob is ridiculing a bike for not doing something that it wasn’t made to do.
The yam is so committed to being childish that his voice still hasn’t changed.
I like all these sport bike guys think everyone who wants to ride a motorcycle needs something that will do 160 and scrape knees. Most people I know on bikes have no interest in that stuff.
Imagine the nice bike someone who wins this will have once they sell it 😍
🤣
@@22smcrrider96 and maybe they find a way to not get speed wobbles when you somehow hit 100mph
@@Modelo408 they where never intended to be there
@@Modelo408 Only way they hitting 100 is in the bed of a truck. Probably give the truck speed wobbles with it's f@t @$$.
Great minds think alike
I own a Roadster with stock suspension, factory rear sets, and the factory clip-ons. It’s meant to be a cafe racer from the factory with more lean angle and performance than all the other Sportsters, and I think HD succeeded in that. With a set of rear Ohlins and good tires, I know guys that even track them. Taller bars and forward controls aren’t what the Roadster was meant for. The 48, or the Iron is better suited for that. People are always surprised on my weekend canyon rides at how well I can keep up with their sport bikes. It’s not my only bike (I own an Aprilia as well) but there’s just something to cool about the Roadster. It has so much character, is good looking, and with the factory cafe parts, it actually handles well for a nearly 600 pound cruiser. You guys should mod this to be the way HD meant it to be which is a cafe. Rear controls, clip-ons, and some decent rear suspension.
It's the rebellious spirit of the thing.... it's that kid that isn't supposed to be in that genre...but is...and is Killin it with style and having a good time .... Like a Ginger -haired white-boy with an uptown fade breaking ankles in a pick-up game down at the park... he stands out like a sore thumb....but he can ball so they low key like him 😆
HD: We have begun to try and modernize!
Yammie: Best I can give you is a back handed compliment.
The official Yammie non-plement.
*compliment, but yeah
More roads to harley was good shit, then the new guy shut it all down :(
Got a dyna and had a sportster. Sure it's not fast. But it's about the style for me. And riding too fast gets you killed eventually. Can only taunt luck so much untill it catches up with you.
But ride what suits you. And let other worry about theirs.
The rubbery screeching sound from the rear could be the bald tire, but it could also be from the rear wheel alignment. If it’s alignment is off, the belt will push against the side of the pulley and make a rubbery screech sound.
I have a sportster 1200 and an MT-09 and I feel like I ve got my bases covered pretty well night and day difference in experience and ride style
Same except MT07. But I demoed a mt09 and loved it and would like to trade up.
Nailed it! Iron 1200 and xsr900. Love them both for the differences! 👍
Iron 1200 and an 02R1 here
grab a dual sport, you won't regret if you like the big differences. will open whole new world of riding for you.
@@jackofnotrades5053 have a T7 too 😁👍
I have a 93 hard mount sportie, love it for the nostalgia. My other bike is a 2002 Vmax 1200, and I can definitely say after year and years of riding, having sketchy newish bikes of old tech is rewarding, the character is where it's at.
I owned a Iron 883 for a lot of years and I will say it definitely went over 100mph and I took it on a handful of road trips quite comfortably.
I personally like the left and right turn signal switches being on the side you're turning. To each his own.
I have a 2019 Roadster. Stage 1, 15" shocks with an additional 1" spacer. Chopped fender, different bars, better pegs. Great bike. Can't wait to do more.
My first bike was a well used 1959 Sportster in 1965. I owned a new 2000 model that I bought because my 1999 Road King stayed in the shop three times longer than it did on the road, and I loved the Sportster for the simplicity of the bike. I have owned so many bikes over the years I can't count them all, and at the moment I am riding a Gold Wing. I have decided to sell the Goldwing and am now looking to find another sportster since I am now 72 and the Goldwing is getting a little heavy for my tired legs. I will say one thing. The Sportster can be converted into a smaller, lighter Road King without a lot of work. A touring seat, wind shield, bags, a tourpack, and better rear shocks, and you can put 600 or more miles a day on the bike easy.
I just bought a 2022 48 as my very first bike. The extent of my riding so far is 8 miles each way through town to work. I think this bike is great for running around town and some weekend rides to the lake.
It's a great bike, the only limitation is what you put on it. The motor is dependable as a hammer. Get a set of slipons and you will enjoy it even more.
I bought one too 2022
I have a 2016 forty eight and I really enjoy it, it's a lot of fun, when you're in the sweet spot on the rev range the torque is great and when I open it up it makes a sound like it's screaming. In general it feels like I'm the engineer on a train, which may not be everyone's cup of tea but it's an extremely enjoyable bike to ride, even completely stock. I'm gonna stage 1 it soon and then hopefully I'll be able to pull on scouts.
stage 1 will give you about a 10% increase so you might have around 73-74hp. Scouts stock are 100hp. given that scouts are lighter and have a lot more power, you aren't going to pull on a scout.
Love all the backhanded compliments Yam gives this bike.
Got a 2016 roadster as my first bike and I’ve been on it for the last two years. I know it’s generally low performing but there’s something about it as a beginner that’s insanely exciting. Trying to get it through some corners and hanging off the side makes you feel like an absolute mad man. I’d say think of it as the send off for the Evo, best stock sportster. I’m at the point now where I’m not sure if I want to start wrenching or just trade and go naked upright sport.
Drag race with Royal Enfield INT 650 is a must !!!!!!! Burn it,burn it down baby 🤣
Sportster win 👌🏻
I had a sporty 883 and it is a good beginner Harley. I Test rode the 1200 and wasn't too impressed, the power difference wasn't what I expected. I ended up going with the Street Bob 114 and absolutely love it.
The HD Sportster 883 Hugger was my very first MC that I owned. I enjoyed it a lot and worked on it a lot. It did all the things I wanted it to do in my first year of rideing. A sharp contrast to the MC I took my license on. A BMW 700 GS.
I just got my 1200 bobber sporty today and I love it!
I had a 1980 Sportster, use to ride it from NAS Whidbey Island to Forest Grove, Oregon many times. Miss those days!
So this is my bike (also my first bike.) I love it and it’s been great to learn on for the past couple years. I’m also new-ish to this channel, and watching it has led me to want to test drive a rebel 1100 when I get home 😂
Just got a 2004 XL1200C. First clutch motorcycle I've ever driven. Within the first 10 minutes of learning how to balance a sub-600lb bike I was hitting the gas and it's quite scary, but manageable for a first bike. Love it so far.
i have an 08 1200 low all stock its magic its my fourth HD from 1963 on up anyone knocking ghe bike doesnt understnd them they are unique un to themselves and a shit load of fun
Hey great, you just explained to me the purpose of a good suspension on a bike with the Royal Enfield I learned about breaks good stuff and keep it coming
I've got a 2020 with a bassani 2:1, big sucker a/c, ohlins rear shocks(15.0") and a ton of weight loss (down to about 480lbs curb) ....this bike rocks if you just wake it up!
Have a 2017 & 2020 (1for wife) both Stage 4 kits, 1 heat range colder plugs, Progressive 444 shocks, external breathers (HUGE IMPROVEMENT) different pipes (RB Racing 2-1 best) motocross bars Michelin Comp 2 tires (stock Dunlops are junk) running 36/39 psi. Small National Cycle Mohawk Windscreen.
I live in the CA Gold Country and (yeah I’m a local) usually have little problem keeping up with other riders making runs thru the twisties with their techno bikes that does all the thinking for them.
I wanted old school and it was between this and an Indian FTR, which is an excellent bike. After a bunch of $$$ and relearning how to ride old school, I am very glad I got the Roadster.
This is awesome i just bought a 1200 sportster here in japan as my first bike was able to find oe for 13k in yen which cost me 9k in American which was a good deal since they average between 20 and 30k here in japan. Really looking forward to seeing what yall do with this bike. Love the channel keep up the awesome work!
This should be a fun series!!
Great vid Yams, REALLY looking forward to this build series. I picked up a 2016 Roadster earlier this year for a lot of the reasons you stated. Getting that visceral, unrefined, old school bike feeling in a "newer" machine. I'm not a die hard Harley guy by any means, it's not anywhere near the fastest, lightest, best handling, but this bike has a butt ton of character. It is simply, motorcycle. Thanks for shedding some light on this particular model, there are not a whole lot of videos out there of the bigger MC RUclipsrs on one.
That is the thing really. You can build on it. I got the Sportster S (still not a REAL bike). You can build on it. You can't compare dogs by saying the greyhound is better than a pitt-bull. It is just not a thing. Both are bad pets in the wrong hands. The H2 and Sportster S are both 3 second bikes, anything after that is law enforcement territory. Although, the suspension on the Sportster S really does suck. I love the bike but man, the shock up the spine with forwards is brutal.
Agree 100% this bike got missed by a lot of people, it’s awesome.
i really enjoy my 07' Custom. More prone to across town than across country, but it's fun & love the ride.
My first bike was a 06 Sportser 1200 and I loved it.
I would probably put taller bars and more conventional mirrors on it (as well as the rear shocks you mentioned). Then lean back a bit and accept the bike's limitations and just cruise and enjoy the ride. Maybe get a small, quick-release windscreen or a small, removable fairing for longer rides.
Waiting to see how it rides with the geometry corrected, and better tires. I know the Sportster should handle better than that sad outing. Yam depending on the mileage you may want to check the neck bearings, and swing arm bushings. It should not be that out of sorts on those roads if everything is adjusted correctly.
i started on a 1200 sportster def feel like it needs more gears at 60 mph was a great starter bike and i love the sound it makes with drag pipes
The mid mounts might be preferable to forwards for standing up over every single little bump. IDK.
Definite yes to the drag race! You can call it Yammie Noob’s First Annual Race to the Bottom!
I knew deep down Yammie missed the evo sportster 🤣
He's a closet Harley lover
Bought a sporty 1200 for my first bike, never rode before, and love it! I've topped mine out @ 110 so not a crazy fast bike but enough to have fun on a strait away. I really want to get an mt-07 or 09 to counter the sporty.
Started on a sportster and honestly for a starter bike it wasn't bad... Got used to the tank slap at 80+ so I guess you could say it made me a better rider. Been looking at street bikes but my Dyna is like a Cadillac, it's not fast but it's comfortable.
I haven’t had my sport slap yet. The street glide I had did it once round 100 I was trying to keep up with a VTX 1300 I just kept pulling espically after 100mph 🤷🏻♂️
Too bad they don't sell for new at beginner prices 😤
@@robertmiller5607 Maybe I wasn't riding it right but my 07 nightster loved to dance, especially if I hit a bump on a fast turn. I just let off the throttle and let it stabilize then gas it again.
@@CaptainJacksIsland Yeah but sometimes you can find a used one for cheaper. Lot's of people buy them then outgrow them quick.
@@NoCommie it could be the type of bars or just how youre riding. I kinda cruise and don’t push the sporty hard they scrape too easy for me to wanna take fast corners. I feel like my Street glide had more lean that the sporty does
Lol the weird handling is a part of why I love my FTR so much.
If you're interested in doing a video on "Just how far have Sportsters have come" I have a fairly stock '06 1200 Roadster and are local. Only things I've done is Progressive Shocks and Cartridge but you're adding suspension too so....
I had a Forty Eight as a beginner (and I still have it) and it is slow, the suspension bottoms out over cracks in the road, the brakes feel defective, 90mph is a white knuckle thrill ride, and it desperately needs a steering dampener. I could only handle it for about a month and ran out and bought a KTM RC8R.
3.3 gallon fuel tank. Some Sporty's, especially older ones, (80's & 90's) have the 2.2 gallons tanks.
some people don't want all the fancy stuff, they want an old school machine. that's why I got my sr400! it's even kickstart only lmao I love it
Lol, I've been anxiously waiting for the new episode 😅
Best line of the vid,"through Harleys own ineptitude has ended up being a bit like ..." lol.😂😂
Thats like the old saying "even a broken clock is right twice a day ". Good stuff.
Great test. Try to get your hands on a Honda Shadow RS only produced from 2010 to 2013. It's a great roadster with mid controls with a bit more ground clearance.
The roadster came with taller rear suspension to match the stance of the inverted front end. Dual disc front brakes were also standard. The stock stance was very european cafeish. Let us know how it handles with proper rear suspension and appropriate tires 🤙
I honestly love my sportster forty eight. Do I wish it had a little more power of course but it is very comfortable for me. I’ve been riding bike for years so I wish I got a lowrider or bagger of course but money I paid for it completely worth it and been fun making it my own.
The tar snakes on that road @ 15:00 are nuts. Here in summer on +100 degree days those things turn into liquid snot.
I've watched it till the very end and slapped a like on it.
A real 'laugh out loud' review. Thank you.
I’m very happy spites down for the count and yams taking the reins. Papa yams papa loves him now
If it’s intended for beginners then that’s why the mid controls make sense. Beginners shouldn’t be learning with forwards. They can always add them later.
Great vid. The Roadster has a 3.3 gallon capacity tank not the 2.2 gallon you were stating.
Yes we “need” a drag race and roll on race between the RE and the SportsterRoadster! 44hp against 67hp and 100+ lbs weight difference. 👌🏾
Re is 47 -48 hp and not 44 hp 👌🏻
@@mociczyczki the RE will still smoke 💨 the HD👍🏽
I swapped out EVERYTHING on my sporty before I did the suspension and I wish I changed the suspension first. It changed the entire dynamic of the bike.
What suspension did you go with? Just bought a 1200 converted one a couple years back but needs suspension especially on rear so bad and a decent quick release wind screen. Kinda for my sons first street bike and a option to my 600cbr and 1000 Vstrom.
Mid controls works great for me because I’m 5’5. I have forward mounted foot pegs and more short legs are locked out lol
I have an 04 sportster 1200 now and I’ve had a lot of bikes. Now I’m almost 40 the sportster is my favorite bike it shakes and it rattles and beats you and makes it feel like a big bike but enough power to get an old heart pumping. I think they are great bikes. I love an r1 more than anyone but when you’re almost 40 and have a family the sportster is a great bike. Loud fun fast enough and they just look cool.
I bought a 2022 48, it was kind of a knee jerk purchase. I would have liked something else now with more power but it does have a torque pull. But with that said I’d like a garage full of bikes lol but the 48 It’s definitely not for comfort and the wind 💨. However, thats it’s charm I think, every trip is a journey, a challenge. I have driven it 200 miles before. But when they are bobbed out they look incredible. A piece of art. A piece of Americana.
The Revolution max Sportster Nightster isn't a Nightster or a Sportster, it's a Honda with an exhaust that looks like a leaf blower
I have forwards and 16” bars on my Harley at 5’11”, and I couldn’t be more comfortable on long rides. However, I’m about as aerodynamic as a boat sail, but conveniently I can’t get going fast enough to creat much drag.
I've been daily riding an 883 since 2016.
I'm gonna step up to a Pan America shortly but I'll be sad to sell the sporty honestly. They have character, they're reliable and easy to maintain yourself. Depending on where you live, they're fast enough if you ring'em out.
“That’s a redline…”
-doesn’t go to limiter 😂
Its funny how a 1200 being considered a small bike. I can remember late 60's when the honda 450 was huge. i own a 48 and love it. also own a new road glide and new heritage. i actually enjoy riding the sportster more. just fun. it is not for speed.
Placed a Stage 1 on mine, Dropped some weight. Dyno'ed it. 70HP 104HQ. Roadster in San Diego yesterday and took it up to 95mph on the Highway with minimum vibes or any problems at all. I have a V&H Tracker Exhaust and it is rough enough to set off car alarms from 10ft away. Showa OEM 13.36 rear shocks are stiff and jarring. Ninja 650's of 2019 were 65HP albeit lighter.
Drag race between the 650 and the Sportster. 👍👍
Sportster is and has been a staple of Harley Davidson for a long time. So much can be done with it. If you're looking for just speed then get a pocket rocket. I myself have a Road Glide Special with a sidecar for my dog. I've often toyed with the idea of getting a sportster and making a chopper just for around town fun
Make video with dog going for a ride !
How do I add a video
Those specs sound similar to my 1997 Suzuki intruder 1400. I'd like to see you guys to review on one of those, or maybe one of the boulevards they turned into, one day.
Just got my first bike last June witch is a sportster 1200 custom, believe the rear suspension on mine is a little better than what your feeling
Can't help but notice the Sporty didn't leave you stranded on the side of the road, Yammie, lol!
I wonder if the thruxton rear öhlins suspension would fit this, would be quite premium upgrade ; ) Also @7:54 , i allready said it in the reveal video but you definetly should drag this with the Royal enfield.
Interceptor vs Sportster track day!!!
@@at9670 Tbh why the fuck not. That sv650 vs RE was allready one of my fav track day videos on this channel so far, Yammies and Joshs energies were so up on that video.
I think Ohlins sells sportster suspension
@@gabrielespana319 Yeah after commenting i went to check their stuff and you can get that stuff straight from them, blacked out aswell instead of the yellow/gold colouring
sportsters probably have the most aftermarket support of all motorcycles. You can get just about any brand suspension you want. Legend, ohlins, drag specialties, progressive, etc.
Interested to see if a new tire and better real suspension will help your feeling in the corners
Lol his sarcasm is great, " it makes for a exciting ride" lol 😆
From actually riding a sportster 1200 roadster without any modification straight from the showroom floor i found it a bit more enjoyable over any of the other available sportsters,definitely not a sports bike but a bit sportier than the normal 883 and 1200's with just as much character
I agree. I desperately wanted one but couldnt afford it. Neutral enough riding position, can lean over the bars, can kinda turn it in, but it's great over a whole day of riding.
At 60 years just starting to ride bikes (mega mid life crisis) I was never going to be interested in a sports bike so I went for a cruiser and picked up a 1200C. It's rough and ready, shiny and loud. Its fast enough for a grey beard newcomer like me!! Yes the suspension sucks - but I ain't ever gonna go fast enough to worry about it !!
18" rear shock, WP forks, Mid controls with a skid plate.
"you know I'm at a point now where I've ridden so many CB500R and new motorcycles and stuff, I kinda want my motorcycle to feel like it's going to kill me a little bit" - Yammie Noob
Im getting my sportster in a month and im so fucking stoked!
When are we going to get part two of the Rocket III?
I started out on a sportster 1200 and I think it was a pretty good beginner bike. Because you're right. They really aren't fast lol
Has anyone taken a Bourget for you to test drive, I love that your willing to ride different bikes.
I have 2016 Roadster...its the best retro bike in the market, period.
Mine handled good throw it on its side no problem try putting a good set of tyres on then try it
You ever ride Buell? Hard to beleive same motor for the differences.
I wanna see a yammie long cruise, like a 300 mile journey. Vlog style through some old fashion American roads
Yup, on the back of the rockets he seems to think are the only valid motorcycles. Maybe he'll finally get some perspective and stop shitting on cruisers.
Avon Cobra tires with dramatically help give it the sporty grip you want.
After working at Harley I bought a dyna of course but a twin cam is way faster than a sportster but I love the handling of the roadster like the one your riding just lacks the power
Yea that suspension upgrade will really be great.
Looking forward to that part of the build
They way your describing how you want a cruiser I think you’d like the ergonomics of mine. Brakes and suspension could use an upgrade. I have an 18 Iron 1200 I love my sporty even if it’s slow. I have an R1 if I wanna be a fast boy the sporty is great for cruising around and the newer sportsters are far more reliable than the older ones.
I've got a 2014 48 with low drag bars and forward controls, and I'm in a narrow C shape riding position. NOT the best riding position, but the bike looks good. lol
But I agree with the turn signals. I always have to break my throttle grip to use the right turn signal. 🤦♂
What is your take on cafe racers? I've recently discovered the Norton v4cr and wanted some opinions on it or the brand are they reliable or not. Thanks
How do you know it has oil if its not leaking any?
I don't know why everyone says all Harleys leak oil... Maybe in the 80s and earlier.
@@PkwyDrive13 I own a sportster 1200 it's just one of my favorite Harley jokes to make
Yes! Drag race them. I've owned both 😀
I would buy this bike; I’ve had a 1200 sporty before and it’s fun, not fast but fun that’s all that matters