NOT TRUE ... we talk about it a lot. And many of us fear the aftermath of a treatment by the US federal government like what happen after hurricane Katrina where capitalists used the crisis y [privatize and profit off of shock
I lived in Japan when the Great Tohoku Earthquake hit off Sendai in 2011. It was a factor 9 and the tsunami literally wiped towns and cities right off the map and put a major nuclear power plant into full meltdown. I lived about 500 miles away in Nara, but I still felt it. It didn't shake or rumble, but suddenly felt like being on a ship on rough seas on dry land, enough to make me dizzy. I moved back to the US in 2018 and now I live in... southern Washington State. Besides the Cascadia Subduction Zone, we've got Mt. Reinier overdue for a major eruption. I can clearly see both Mt Reinier and Mt St Helens from the end of my road. I need to find myself a nice, comfortable, geologically benign place outside of the Ring of Fire some day.
I thought I'd be safe when I moved to Australia (other than the wildlife lol) but I moved to southeast Queensland which is ringed by supposedly extinct volcanoes, literally ringed by the tops of tall, skinny volcano tubes and we are halfway between Asia & New Zealand so more volcanoes and YIKES we also get earthquakes. The extinct volcanoes freak me out more than anything and the whole earthquake thing is a close second.
@@patrickomeagher9868 I think I prefer the odds of "any day now sometime in the next 500 years or so" to hurricanes or tornadoes so I'll stick around in eastern Washington.
Come to NZ 😅😅😅 - you'd get not only the Hikurangi Subduction Zone (a known cause of tsunamis like the Cascadia Fault), but the Alpine Fault (overdue to break around now), but we can also throw in the Taupo supervolcano 🎉🎉
I watched the series The Days on Netflix, and it blew me away what the workers went through to try and prevent the spent core rods from exposure, because that would have been it. Remarkable brilliant people at the Fukushima plant.
Bolting to something solid pretty much guarantees destruction. Structures that can bounce and free float tend to survive earthquakes better; those fastened solid are more prone to be ripped apart by the vibrations.
Yeah it's beautiful up there to be sure! Then I found out how much of the regen is built on top of previous eruptions lahars. So many people live in a danger zone. Especially Mt renere and the glacier on top of it!
My entire job is getting people and infrastructure ready for Cascadia. We have a long way to go but we have only known about the hazard since the mid 1980s. The tsunami will not be “skyscraper” high. Watch videos of 2011 Japan for a better understanding. So much is being done to harden infrastructure and put processes into place. If you want to help, join your local CERT team.
The wave could get up to 100' where I live in bellingham bay. In the USGS models it goes crimson red as the water gets channeled through the straight & gets shallower near shore..
Thank you for your hard work helping us get ready! I experienced the Nisqually quake as a kid, and The Big One is always on my mind. Every time a big truck goes by or an unfamiliar washing machine goes into a spin cycle in a basement I pause and start looking for desks and door jams. I'm going to be looking into my local CERT, thanks for the suggestion!
One of my final duties before retirement was helping to install tsunami warning sirens on the Washington coast. Since then I’ve moved away from the coast and have spent time getting prepared for an earthquake. Since I no longer live near water, I may have to worry about getting crushed, but I won’t have to worry about getting swept under the surface of a tsunami!
As someone who lives smack dab in the middle of this region, I can tell you it has become startlingly apparent to me that we are not ready for the next Cascadia earthquake and hundreds of thousands of people are going to die
If I'm still living in this apartment when the Big One hits, and I'm at home when it strikes, I fully expect this building, built in 1971, well before we knew about the Cascadia fault and never retrofitted, to fold up like a house of cards and kill me. 😰 Although considering the predicted consequences, maybe that's a better outcome?! 😰😰
I mean if it hits portland maybe but is that really a loss(yes I live here in Oregon and I loathe portland in ways most people cannot fathom) the rest of the state is pretty low population density for the win and well....most predictions I have seen forecast a huge earthquake/series of quakes that will 1. either elevate or sink the coast so ....new coast and/or 2 quake(s) will cause a huge Oregon coast hitting tsunami....which would again go inland possibly 100 miles at worst. Yeah I live about twice that from the coast and feel like I will either just end up living in beach front property if it goes hugely wrong or just be closer to the coast by about 100 miles. Win win!
@@Ice_Karma That sucks! My built in the 1930's of mostly dreams and wishes will blow down or catch fire but in either case we could survive. the walls are like a 1/4 inch of plaster on top of paper. The outside is literally less than an inch away from our doors/walls and both doors have huge gaps so we could simple push them over and walk out. No insulation...no extra anything. Built to house loggers, then thought of as little more than animals so yeah....if a mouse sneezes too hard it gonna fall over like a house of cards.
I’ll prolly be stuck in traffic in the middle of a huge bridge with a full bladder having to pee really bad if the megaquake hits. And used to support the idea of a Republic of Cascadia, tho not any longer for several reasons.
Geologist here. When I was in college in Washington, we talked about this only occasionally. Aside from the destruction of a lot of property and civil works, a key point is that most of the Pacific Northwest is connected by only one direct highway (I-5) and if bridges and roads were destroyed, then resources would not be able to be efficiently distributed, and priority would be given to larger cities like Seattle etc. I went to college in Bellingham and they told us we should essentially have an emergency stash of food and water. Water pipelines in cities would be destroyed, so keep a good water filter around.
Evergreen class 1999 and I already survived three 6.5 and above. Watched my house burn after the 1989 quake it destroyed eighty percent of the Santa Cruz downtown. We pulled bodies out of the Old bookstore brick falling was main cause of deaths and injuries best I could tell. I volunteered with children and lived at Red Cross at Shelter with them until that roof started to go. Lucky friends took me in for a bit. Not doing that again. Started having premonition dreams and lucid ones got out of Oregon in 2022
@@maramclaine830We were lucky north up in HMB! Most news coverage was the Marine District, the Bay Bridge and the Cypress Structure Collapse! Little or no news out Santa Cruz! I remember seeing fenced off residences ten plus years later! I attribute the World Series being a life saver! Instead of 50 plus fatalities, hundreds, if not thousands on any other day during commute time!
I got up, pulled on on my Cascadia hoodie, made a cup of coffee, sat down at my computer, and found this video at the top of my youtube homepage. Excellent. I dream of an alternate timeline where America and Britain settled the Oregon/Columbia territory dispute by establishing it as an independent nation with ties to both.
Did you know the Oregon Territory almost became part of Canada? It's true. The only reason it became part of the US is because 2 gentlemen were wanted criminals in Canada, so they voted to become part of the USA where they were not wanted criminals. True Story.
One of the unmentioned concerns here is that the region also hosts 6 active volcanoes, and due to the population distribution in its lahar paths, Mt. Rainier's next eruption is predicted to be potentially one of the deadliest in history.
For my Geology degree I did my thesis on the Cascadia Subduction Zone. It was even more of a monster disaster than stated in this video. I've been to the forests that were destroyed all the way up to the Mountains. The entire Olympic peninsula dropped 25 to 50 ft after the earthquake. Can you just imagine that happening today...
@ And then you discover the massive fault under St Louis… (look up “New Madrid”). It’s splitting the entire continent up the Mississippi valley. That makes the Cascade fault look like a joke…
Everyone talks about the "Big One", and forgets that Mt Rainier (fueled by the same subduction zone) is about due for an eruption. And all the rivers running off of Rainier largely run into South Seattle, Tacoma, and all the suburbs in between. The lahar caused by the flash melting of the glaciers could easily kill half a million people and cut the region off from the outside world by knocking out many of the freeways and damaging the Ports of Seattle and Tacoma.
@@stonejohnson122 These will be rivers that form immediately upon the volcano's explosion. They don't exist now, duh, and will run down existing valleys.
You don't need a quake or an eruption to trigger a lahar. There is clear evidence of major mud flows from Rainier/Tahoma reaching almost to Commencement Bay. Excavations for freeways and large buildings and port projects in the Fife area have found stands of trees still upright and buried in mud.
I was born in Alaska, and grew up in/live in WA State. I’ve never lived outside of this region. It’s beautiful, but that beauty comes at a cost that our infrastructure is in absolutely no way prepared for. It’ll be a nightmare when this happens.
I grew up in Florida and moved to Oregon as a young teen. Oregon has been nothing but breathtakingly beautiful at all hours of the day, even through wildfire smoke and harsh snowfalls. Of course Cascadia scares the shit out of me, but I'm gonna enjoy the beauty while we still got it. Hope the Mountains protect me from the tsunami since I live pretty far inland.
I'm in the greater Seattle area and love my Cascadian flag! It's not a movement people really take that seriously, it's more a thought experiment. We do take The Big One seriously though. When it hits, it's estimated pretty much everything west of i-5 is a goner. It's also not really known how it will affect our 6 active volcanoes....
That's usually how it goes though, doesnt it? It starts out as a thought experiment, a "what if" or "what could have been", until one day, it's no longer just a thought experiment, its an experiment. A tinderbox is being built under us, and the moment that there is a spark it will all ignite. Just as it did in the HRE and the disparate Italian states.
As a frequent Seattle visitor, yes I agree. Cascadia seems kind of like a local meme but it's fun to see the flags around the place and to see this group of adjoining states that were British-controlled until the 1860s still finding an identity together. But honestly I don't think they really want to secede from the US and Canada - they are going to need every bit of help they can get from the east and elsewhere when the big one hits.
I remember that too, I was ten and in my classroom in Olympia. The teacher screamed at us to get under our desks and I watched as the TV bolted to the ceiling shook crazily over the girl underneath it, it didn't fall though. Then we got sent home for the day
I also remember it and was about 6 yo. The school I went to in Seattle was an old brick building and had quite a bit of damage to it. A gas line actually broke in our class and they had to move us to another part of the building. Although idk why the whole school was not evacuated. I also remember a teacher of mine in middle school talking about the big one and Mt. Rainer erupting and that both are considered over due. Basically if it is by the water it is gone. Even talking about how most of Downtown Seattle and Georgetown and other places in that area would be “liquidated”. Definitely not prepared for it at all. Even though everyone living in the area is aware that it will happen we just don’t talk about it.
@@PatrickMJr Lots of unpredictable things can happen, eg a quake causes a landslide that temporarily blocks or diverts a river, then once enough water builds up, it breaks loose all of a sudden causing flash flooding across roads, school, homes etc. Check out what happened at New Madrid in 1812 - the Mississippi flowed backwards for two hours. These kind of events can be cataclysmic.
@@lorithomas9536 Maybe "liquidated" but possibly you are referring to "liquefaction". This is a geologic process that can make large areas unsafe and uninhabitable after an earthquake. This is what happened in a large area of central Christchurch, NZ, after its big quakes in 2011.
Also, fun fact; there isn't really a plan for what happens with The Big One hits. Like, yeah, there are roads with signs designating them for evacuation/emergency services, but there isn't a body responsible for them, or for enforcing it. Learned that when doing my urban search and rescue training on the island.
There is a body responsible for the region. In 2009 I was on a Team in Hawaii (responsible for disaster coordination for the Pacific), we worked with the Team responsible for the Cascadia Region. Our Team, along with three other Teams from around the US spent a week with the local Team learning about the region, the plans, and how we would plug in to assist coordination efforts. Then we spent another week running a “wargame” exercise. I couldn’t tell you what local, city, county, and state folks are doing. But at the Federal level, there are people anticipating this.
There isn't really a plan cuz there is no good plan. Anything west of I5 is toast and should expect to not even receive aid for a month+ The region's roads are so bad that when I5 gets taken out there's not even a good way to get aid to the area. Saying this as someone living west of I5 currently.
I studied this fault in college when I was at Humboldt state. The last time it ruptured was terrifying. Imagine a 9.0 earthquake happening at 930pm in January when you live in a small fishing based tribe with no electricity. Absolutely horrifying
For someone who in my lifetime, moved from Vancouver ... to the interior of BC (Kamloops) ... for normal family and lifestyle reasons ... I'd be lying if it didnt cross my mind that I was moving away from a disaster waiting to happen, and potentially moving towards future seaside property. Kidding ... but not entirely. We have grown up with this knowledge deeply ingrained into our psyche ... the big one is coming.
So, as I understand it, every time Cascadia goes, it sets off San Andreas in a big way, too. Portland, Seattle, and the whole Northwest could be competing for aid with San Francisco and Los Angeles. I think that for a considerable amount of time afterward, you must assume that you will be on your own. The scary thing is that this is not some "scare you" possibility. This is a certainty. Aid will certainly come from around the world, but there will be great difficulty in accessing it.
Simon hits close to home today! I live near the Cascades, am in the National Guard, and am currently studying emergency management 😅 so this is my jam right here
Local disaster prep groups talk about the months it would take to get supplies to us, and the decade it would take to rebuild. Mountains, oceans, rivers, hundreds of bridges, thousands of miles, millions of people... survivors will be their own nation for a while, weather we like it or not.
I think about that just if Mt. Rainier erupts and the subsequent Lahar buries everything from Orting to Tacoma up all the way to Renton. Highways, Railways, hundreds of thousands of people in the way.
Everyone forgets about Mt St Elias, which helps make the northern border of the Cascadia bio-region. It is the second tallest Mountain in North America and basically rises up near the coast to create one of the most extreme vertical reliefs in the world - going from sea level to over 18,000 ft in less than 10 miles.
CASCADIA AND PACIFICA FTW! Love it here, and considering current politics of the USA would love it if we could manage to get out of this mess and be our own place... but they won't let us, for sure.
Yes. It's a shame that so often he clearly isn't even listening to himself speak, let alone understanding what the scriptwriter wrote. He makes some real howlers and doesn't even notice.
I live just south of Seattle, we’ve been warned about it ever since I was a kid. We had earthquake drills and all that. It’s just something you live with here, at some point it’ll happen. Maybe in 5 minutes maybe in 500 years. Who knows. But, what are you going to do if the earth splits open and eats everything west of i5? Not much. Something we knew about here but don’t worry about. If it happens, it happens.
During the 1700 quake a portion of the south end of Bainbridge Island was lifted 30 feet and remains there today, we went to see it for a geology field trip in middle school. Hella cool
I would say it's a pipe dream that idaho would form a country with Oregon washington and British Columbia which are all very liberal, take a trip to Idaho or just follow what their lawmakers do and you'd quickly understand they're all hard-core conservatives, fundamentalist Christians, and Maga lots and lots of Maga, driving there to visit my parents is wild 😂
The "Greater Idaho" movement seeks to have the southern portion of the state of Oregon and everything east of the Portland area join Idaho - primarily for political reasons. They're tired of their lifestyles dictated by Portland and the northwest sector of that state. Idaho is already on board with this idea. Is it possible? On paper, yes. All they'd legally need is the approval of Washington and the Oregon state government. Washington may approve such a move, depending of course on which political party is in power. But Oregon's governor? THAT would take one hell of a bribe.
@@zeus014 That land actually costs oregon more than it generates for oregon, so by taking that land, idaho would be investing in a huge money sink, especially considering how few new citizens they'd get to boost their tax revenue. It would be funny to see all the people who moved from washington and oregon to idaho because of the lower taxes suddenly have to pay way more taxes to upkeep all the new infrastructure they'd be taking on. I would feel bad for all the minimum wage workers though because they'd probably get their pay slashed to 7.25
BC is similar to Oregon. Specifically, 2 large urban centres push their authoritarian socialist ideals on the vast areas of the rest of the province. I live in interior BC and have far more in common with the rural folk of Idaho, Oregon, Alberta, and Montana than I do with the blue haired nut cases of Vancouver Island or the lower mainland.
If Dwayne Johnson ever wanted to make a San Andreas sequel? I'd set it here and call it... CASCADIA! Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Tsunami's, Lahar's and Wildfire's all rolled into one!
The idea that the puget sound can be Pompeii-ed just makes me want to move near seattle so i can watch it burn right before i go out in a pyroclastic wave.
There are no volcanoes that close to Seattle to have anything short of a VEI 8 to cause a pyroclastic flow, and we don't have any historical volcanoes that big, even Mount Mazama wasn't a VEI8. "Mount Mazama's eruption had a Volcanic Explosivity Index (VEI) of 7, making it one of the largest eruptions in the late Quaternary period. The eruption occurred around 7,700 years ago"
i live in Tofino... a tiny(2500 permanent residents) on the West Coast of Vancouver Island... yes.... my town will be wiped off the map... but the indigenous community here survived the last big one... we'll make it through the next one.
The second--largest earthquake ever recorded was a 9.2 quake on Good Friday 1964 near Anchorage, Alaska, on the subduction zone there. It crerated huge tsunamis, shook for nearly 5 minutes and dropped large amounts of land into the ocean (and rose the seabed up in some places). Most people tend to forget about that one. Alaska has more frequent earthquakes than Cascadia but who knows when the next huge quake up there will be? That one sent a tsnunami down to Hawaii as well as to Crescent City, CA, and elsewhere along the shores of the Pacific.
When I was in grade school (I feel so old) we had to bring earthquake kits to school, and did regular earthquake drills. As far as I know, they don’t do this in the Vancouver area any longer. We were always told the big one is coming any day now. This used to be a major conversation at all times through the 90’s and early 2000’s.
Cascadia, if created in a way that had it control and obtain all currently stationed/stored military assets, would have the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world and a military that would rival most European nations.
We just had a 7.0 earthquake in Northern California, no tsunamis. We got an alert here in souther Oregon but i didnt feel it but a friend (who lives in Humbolt county) said it was the strongest shes ever felt and the most scared she's ever been during a quake. So we are having decent sized quakes in the cascadia zone
Cascadia Subduction Zone, Nankai Rift and Campi Flagrei are all classed as imminent cataclysmic geological events by many geologists, imminent in geological terms and this is not alarmist talk as all three are high probabillty events in the next 20-50 years. Cataclysmic in that these three events, two earthquakes and one 'super' volcano will destroy large parts of civilisation in the areas they form, CSZ and Nankai are all the more devastating is not only would cause a 8-9+ initial quake, but you're also likely to get multiple 8+ aftershocks on top of already damaged infrastructure and land mass (liquefaction of ground soil). The CSZ event would likely disturb other fault zones such as San Andreas, Hayward or other faults alongside the many volcanos that form along the west coast further compounding from what is already a cataclysmic event to an Armageddon leaving large swathes of the Pacific coasts of many countries as barren wastelands. Consider how devasting the 2004 India Ocean Quake was worldwide, and that was a hundred miles off of Sumatra in the ocean. All three of the above are under or close to major population areas. Campi Flagri is even more nightmare inducing, it is one of the most active volcanos in the word and Naples is built into the heart of it's caldera. When it goes up, and depending on the VEI it will forever reshape Italy and the Mediterranean coastlines of Europe, Middle East and Africa. The resulting Tsunami would only the be the start of the regions woes as you're probably looking at a death toll in 100s of millions from the initial event alone with the continuing eruption lasting days or years causing untold worldwide ecological and atmospheric damage, and the Campi Flagri also has Mt Eta, Santorini, Stromboli, Vesuvius to name of the regions most destructive volcanos which would just as likely be triggered into blowing around the same time. All these events will kill hundreds of thousands of people and tens of millions probably billions of people around the world will be affected for decades following as countries who provide trade and resources taken out of the fragile international markets. These are the types of events that could cause major sociological unrest and collapse of countries and rewrite history forever. All three areas have shown heightened activity in recent years, in particular Campi Flagri and the Nankai Rift last year. Sleep well!
I just moved to the Everett area (north of Seattle), and let me tell you, I’ve already got a go bag ready! Better safe than sorry, even if I never use it, it feels so much better having one than not. Especially looking at what’s happened recently in California and last years hurricane season.
Living in a place like that, the go bag is just as useful as a teddy bear. Everyone will be trying to leave and it will just be gridlock as far as the eye can see. I mean shit the roads are gridlocked all day everyday during normal travel.
@@Ski_3_p_o yup! But I live 250+ feet above sea level, so I’ll be safe (hopefully) from any initial tsunamis, it’s the aftermath that will be the worst for me specifically. A couple weeks of food/water and some basic supplies are all I should realistically need in that kind of situation. Hopefully it never comes to pass, but to me it’s better to be slightly prepared than not at all.
@@Ski_3_p_o A go-bag is sometimes the kit you keep at work because the day of the quake, all the bridges will be down and official advice is you are likely to have to hike home. So you need water, energy bars, batteries etc because you might be walking for hours or days.
I was a disaster responder. I recommend one for the house and one for the car in case you are out. Even if there isn't a large event, the majority of emergencies are going to be a situation of 1 or very local. Or they stuff can happen that people can't even predict. My neighborhood and 2 historical towns were flooded in a FREAK rainstorm that was out of a movie that opened up like a paranormal event above us. Then a few years later a derecho, which are worse than tornados, not talked about nearly enough, and can happen anywhere. I had no notice for that either and the national gaurd had to get us out first and took a week to respond to the public. People always think the government will rescue them, and as someone who was that government, a lot of times they can't. Prepare accordingly. Also plan multiple escape routes. I usually advise people that if all else fails, go northwest. But in your case you are the northwest. 😅 It's weird that it works but because of the way climate and geology works in north America, most problems travel west to east.
I grew up on Vancouver Island, the constant talks of "The Big One" are scary to be honest. It would be apocalyptic. I've since moved further inland but the devastation to my friends and family who still live on the coast is something that gets brought up now and again.
We are simply Australia, regardless of the failed state of Victoria (or really Melbourne since Victoria doesn't exist outside Caroline Springs to the leftists in Spring Street) seeking otherwise.
Um, y'all got some pretty dangerous stuff over there too! At least Cascadia doesn't have Crocs, funnel web spiders, king browns or box jellyfish 🪼... We do have rattlesnake, black windows, mountain lion and bear 🐻.. I'll take my chances with them and earthquake rather than live in the Danger continent.. thank you very much! Y'all did give us AC/DC though, that is awesome 👍
Yes we're lucky that our continent sits all on one tectonic plate but that Alpine Fault over in Unzud is a big one waiting to happen. It has caused tsunamis along the east coast of Australia before, like only hundreds of years ago. We're not immune from quakes either - they go off regularly in various places. In 1989, out of the blue, 15 people died in the NSW city of Newcastle when a quake just popped off one day.
Logistically not having the snake river under cascadias control would be a problem. Nerdy answer but I’m from Idaho. PS I’ll take joining Oregon over Utah 😂
I went to an 'Emergency Preparedness' event in Yelm, Washington. It surprised the hell out of me that no one, I mean no one, had any information on this. It was just a sales event for all kinds of things, but they simply knew nothing about this. It was troubling. I bought some hi-tech tape and left.
This region being an independent country was a central feature of "Ecotopia: The Notebooks and Reports of William Weston," a utopian novel by Ernest Callenbach, published in 1975.
As someone who lives in the Cascadia region (BC), the amount of names Simon is pronouncing wrong is driving me crazy! 🤣 Also, they've been talking about the "Big One" quake since I was a little kid in the 90s. The cities of Cascadia (Seattle, Vancouver, etc) have some of the strictest building codes related to earthquakes and wildfires.
Oregon has been working on retro fitting and replacing buildings and infrastructure. There's still a long way to go of course. After the shaking stops, the Portland metro area faces soil liquification; potential inundation from the Columbia, Willamette, Clackamas and Tualatin rivers which could also change in their courses too; our largest medical facilities are on top of the Tualatin hills and along the Willamette river -- nobody mentions that as an issue. Planning to be cut off and without services for an extended time is something more people should consider -- and not just for a large earthquake. It was great to see familiar places here! Thank you for covering this!
Yes. The region is spending hundred of millions to upgrade infrastructure and the "The Big One" is fairly common knowledge among residents. However, as you state, the amount of time for critical response to reach many residents will be counted in months to say nothing of rebuilding infrastructure.
Yeah the tsunami will travel right up the Columbia, and then to the Willamette, etc. Not going to be pretty. Practice my escape but I’m on a landslide prone valley nearby. Was fun while it lasted!
You didn’t mention Kitsap-Bangor, JBLM & Whidbey Island. Even many mossbacks are not fully aware of these details or what is really here on that spectrum. Or the history of Boeing-Hanford 😳🙄😳. We don’t even need to talk about Microsoft, Amazon, Starbucks etc. ALL Cascadian, by Cascadians. It’s a place, not a concept. Oh, not to mention the Chinese power relocating to BC…
I was at the mouth of Humboldt Bay when the 7.0 earthquake hit. Immediatly I headed home, because it's above 200'. 16 miles thru the city, into the mountains. I was home before the tsunami warning was issued. No traffic after a major earthquake, no one else heading UP. No one else thinking... tsunami, BEFORE the warning. Cascadia isn't ready.
Just a quick note, but the Cascadian flag isn't only flown by supporters of the Timbers. All 3 Cascadian clubs (seattle, Vancouver, and Portland) all proudly fly the flag.
I'll take my chances, I'm moving back to Washington in '27. I miss my views of Mt. Rainier and the ability to go to the Salish Sea whenever I wanted. Being landlocked sucks. This was very informative, love it.
@ You’re so sweet! I was in Kent, my mom took ill so I had to move back to Wyoming for a while. Yeah, the cost of living is high, but my husband can make twice as much doing there what he does here and I too, could make more than $11/hr. No one pays here unfortunately.
Stay in WY. I moved back to WA when I retired, and it is notthing like the state I grew up in. It has especially gone off the deep (left) end the past 10 years.
I used to live in the Seattle area and did occasionally think about the possibility of a fast moving earthquake disaster. I eventually moved to the desert southwest to enjoy the far slower, relaxed pace of a megadrought.
To be fair just about everything in the region is green, blue, white if you're trying to evoke the regional colors. Just like everything is Forest themed or coastal themed
Good summary but I've gotta take some minor issue with the title. There hasn't been anything secret about the subduction zone since I was a kid in the 80s.
As a lifelong Oregonian, I think about the impending doom that is the Cascadia mega quake on a daily basis. When I'm away from my kids, I panic at the thought of the earthquake hitting & being unable to get to them. It's a huge consideration for me but like... it could happen tomorrow or 100 years from now. It's terrifying 🫠
I was little, but I remember earthquakes in 79 leading up to Mt. St. Helen's in 1980. It may not be "known for" them, but they've had minor-moderate quakes for centuries up there
Thanks for so many clips of my home town (Portland). From my childhood in the sixties, we are aware. The Mount Saint Helens eruption on 5/18/1980 was a stark reality of the activities just under our feet. Mt Tabor is a dormant volcano set in the center of Portland with four others in the surrounding area. The Cascade range seismic surveillance started in 1958 providing fair warning to those that choose to evacuate or prepare.
This is why I live in Spokane. It'll be ocean front property someday. (Also, that's why Amazon is moving their hub here. The complex is huge and growing)
Born and raised at the base of Mt Rainier and no matter the risk I'll never leave. I was 8 when Mt St Helens blew and it was a mess but we lived through it. I lost cousins in the Oso land slide but it's a risk we are willing to take to live in beautiful serenity.
I loved your coverage of WNC recently simon! I live in lake lure and can't believe I got to hear you talk about my town, even if it wasn't in a good context 😅
Yep, Simon,...what are we going to do with you,...you finally come to my neighborhood and look how you act,...tisk tisk,...I have barely started your video, and I want to listen and hear what you've learned about our little corner of the world,...but your somewhere on planet New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts. I guess I'll watch something else,...not a hater,. I can wait until you get back from the bank, check the comments, and then change it,...I'll wait,...
Thank you for using your channel to talk about this subject. I've been prepping for this monster but it's difficult to prep for 2 major conflagrations...major earthquake, followed by a tsunami. 😮
Big fan Simon. Thanks for covering my home! Cascadia is a cultural identity in a way as well. We tend to have common values that mix individualism without a predominant right-wing mentality. Not across the board but predominant.
I've lived in the Portland area for 17 years, it SUCKS now,i want to leave. Whatever that "cascadia" identity is, sorry, i don't share it. I'm looking into moving away from this dump. I don't even remember what I saw in this place when i fist moved here, what a mistake!
@ Then move. I have lived in Oregon my whole life. It is people who have moved here in the last decade or so who have changed it. Normally I think we should all work together to improve it. But, seriously? Move. You do not understand our past, and where we came from. You just want to complain. Good Riddance.
I'm from Northern BC and back in the 90s they taught us that the big one is due any year (within the next 100 years) and could strike any time. It's in the record showing a massive earthquake every 1000 years. Recently, they changed the prediction to within the next 50 years.
I'd love to see Simon cover New Zealand's Alpine fault which is very similar to the Cascadia faultline, probably with a much higher chance of rupturing and just as deadly. If the Alpine Fault ruptures, it will affect the whole country, but the South Island would be affected the most as the faultline runs right up the middle of the island. I hope it never happens in my lifetime as I live close to the faultline and it's long overdue for "The Big One".
If you want to get really terrified about this, take a daytrip by road to Milford Sound. You drive through a tunnel hewn from solid rock, water dripping from the roof over the one-lane road. In the course of that 2km-or-so tunnel, you cut right through the Alpine Fault and if it decides to slip while you're in there, you'd probably know as much about it as a grasshopper knows when he hits a windscreen!
My hometown (Eugene, OR) recently had the local hospital network downsize to having only one emergency room located on one side of the river. The mayor and town were (and still are) really frustrated by this because it means when the Big One hits one side of the river (the side with downtown Eugene and University of Oregon) won’t have an emergency room to access if bridges collapse.
My mom's town is in the middle of Vancouver Island. The highway from the east coast to the west coast of the island goes through her town. It was last year (or the year before) that wildfires wiped out a good portion of the highway, and for a few weeks no supplies came in, since the only other available road was an unpaved logging road, which semi trucks are not able to use. I live in the UK where everything is connected by road AND rail, and it amazes me how people in Canada are so blasé about having the most minimal of transport connections (the TransCanada highway is another weak link). If that fault rips, it's going to be really devastating.
Why would you use AI generated images when you can literally use "The Wave"? Ya know, super famous Japanese painting based upon this very tsunami you're referring to?
I was in grade school in Bremerton when the Good Friday quake struck. Although the epicenter was over 1200 miles distant, there wasn't a single one of our neighbors that didn't have some sort of damage to their homes. Broken windows, collapsed chimneys, failed water-mains shooting mud-geysers into the air, buckled streets and side-walks, power-lines sputtering on the ground. I love the Pacific Northwest. Did you know that the town of Nisqually has a Lahar Surfing Club? Surf-boards on the roof of their homes...just in case.
I love that Japan is investing an insane amount of money into disaster preparedness and we're just kinda like: lol, hope that doesn't happen and if it does guess I'mma just die!
There's extreme poverty in-between rich city centers. Nirvana's Kurt Cobain came from a town in the poor parts so did his wife. If you visit a place like that, you understand the music very well suddenly. The nature is beautiful though. Astounding. You should do a motorcycle ride through the areas. Totally worth it!!
Can confirm, I live in Ocean Shores which is 40 mins outside of Aberdeen where he grew up. Aberdeen is definitely a rough place in a lot of ways, but it also has its own charm that’s grown on me over time.
@@relaxingsounds5469 I stayed in a B&B up on the hill in Aberdeen and it was absolutely delightful. Lots of historic houses up on that hill and definitely a different feel than the gritty downtown with its big stroads.
Courtney Love doesn't quite have the working class cred of her late husband! (Not that Kurt really played on that anyway.) Courtney's maternal grandparents set her up with a trust fund, worth something like $500 per month in the late 80s. Her dad was a road manager or something for the Grateful Dead in the 70s. Her mom is psychologist and author. Love was sent to boarding school in New Zealand and did time in various PNW "juvie" institutions. She also lived in the UK as a teenager/young adult and lives there now. She looves haute couture and glamorous events so personally I just don't see poverty as a big part of her backstory. Certainly not now - she's very rich on the back of Kurt's songs.
@@VanillaMacaron551 Yea it has a real vibe to it that’s hard to explain. I live right up the street from a hotel that Kurt worked at as a janitor for a while. His legacy is still very much felt out here.
“I’m here for the volcanoes and the salmon, and the fascinating possibility that at any moment the volcanoes could erupt and pre-poach the salmon.” -Tom Robbins
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First rule of the Cascadia Subduction Zone: We do NOT talk about the Cascadia subduction zone.
We talk about it, fear a little, then finish our ipas and forget about it.
Well said. I thought about it a few times when I moved here a decade ago, but the natural beauty of the region helped me ignore, like a siren call
Eastern coast of North America? Excuse me?!
NOT TRUE ... we talk about it a lot. And many of us fear the aftermath of a treatment by the US federal government like what happen after hurricane Katrina where capitalists used the crisis y [privatize and profit off of shock
Lol
Yes, it's raining and dangerous in the Pacific NW. Stay away.
SOUND advice
We're full.
Try Austin first hipsters!
I agree, super dangerous. Don't move here. 😎
Too much seaweed, it smells bad, stay away☹️
Residents of the Cascadia region: "We have created a movement!"
Tectonic plates, "Did someone ask for a movement?"
You cant tell because I'm drowning under 20 feet of water, but I'm trying to yell "NOO!".
"Hold my craft beer."
My bowels moved.
Scat lovers quivered in delight
This is a good example of escalation
My favorite Olympic Peninsula bumper sticker:
“Honk if you Juan de Fuca.”
I lived in Japan when the Great Tohoku Earthquake hit off Sendai in 2011. It was a factor 9 and the tsunami literally wiped towns and cities right off the map and put a major nuclear power plant into full meltdown. I lived about 500 miles away in Nara, but I still felt it. It didn't shake or rumble, but suddenly felt like being on a ship on rough seas on dry land, enough to make me dizzy. I moved back to the US in 2018 and now I live in... southern Washington State. Besides the Cascadia Subduction Zone, we've got Mt. Reinier overdue for a major eruption. I can clearly see both Mt Reinier and Mt St Helens from the end of my road. I need to find myself a nice, comfortable, geologically benign place outside of the Ring of Fire some day.
brett. no it wont a wave 3' tp 5 meters at most.. facts from USGS...not fox news
I thought I'd be safe when I moved to Australia (other than the wildlife lol) but I moved to southeast Queensland which is ringed by supposedly extinct volcanoes, literally ringed by the tops of tall, skinny volcano tubes and we are halfway between Asia & New Zealand so more volcanoes and YIKES we also get earthquakes. The extinct volcanoes freak me out more than anything and the whole earthquake thing is a close second.
@@patrickomeagher9868 I think I prefer the odds of "any day now sometime in the next 500 years or so" to hurricanes or tornadoes so I'll stick around in eastern Washington.
Come to NZ 😅😅😅 - you'd get not only the Hikurangi Subduction Zone (a known cause of tsunamis like the Cascadia Fault), but the Alpine Fault (overdue to break around now), but we can also throw in the Taupo supervolcano 🎉🎉
I watched the series The Days on Netflix, and it blew me away what the workers went through to try and prevent the spent core rods from exposure, because that would have been it. Remarkable brilliant people at the Fukushima plant.
I insisted my home be bolted to the granite.
When the big one comes, I'm riding this mountain to wherever it's going, be that Astoria, Idaho, or hell.
"I'm not getting up from my chair for anything."
"Get off my lawn" haha
Provided you are home at the time. Honestly, IDC but having kids makes this SUCK
Bolting to something solid pretty much guarantees destruction. Structures that can bounce and free float tend to survive earthquakes better; those fastened solid are more prone to be ripped apart by the vibrations.
@kurtniznik8116 so then op would be riding the mountain into hell as stated lol
0:49 EASTERN coast of North America?!
Haha I know right, I think Simon does it on purpose to generate comments
@@robinelson6173Simon just reads what’s in front of him while tuning out. He’s said as much.
well everyone knows Washington is on the east coast.
Big mistake right at the start 🤦
fun fact: none of simon's editors have been seen or heard from since late 2021
ALLEGEDLY
looks out back window at Mt. Rainier “Still okay! See you tomorrow. Hopefully.”
Every day when I lived in Tacoma 😂
Yeah it's beautiful up there to be sure! Then I found out how much of the regen is built on top of previous eruptions lahars. So many people live in a danger zone. Especially Mt renere and the glacier on top of it!
Me looking at Mt St Helens…
Me looking at Mt. Baker.
Me looking at glacier peak😂
My entire job is getting people and infrastructure ready for Cascadia. We have a long way to go but we have only known about the hazard since the mid 1980s. The tsunami will not be “skyscraper” high. Watch videos of 2011 Japan for a better understanding. So much is being done to harden infrastructure and put processes into place. If you want to help, join your local CERT team.
The wave could get up to 100' where I live in bellingham bay. In the USGS models it goes crimson red as the water gets channeled through the straight & gets shallower near shore..
Thank you for your hard work helping us get ready! I experienced the Nisqually quake as a kid, and The Big One is always on my mind. Every time a big truck goes by or an unfamiliar washing machine goes into a spin cycle in a basement I pause and start looking for desks and door jams. I'm going to be looking into my local CERT, thanks for the suggestion!
One of my final duties before retirement was helping to install tsunami warning sirens on the Washington coast. Since then I’ve moved away from the coast and have spent time getting prepared for an earthquake. Since I no longer live near water, I may have to worry about getting crushed, but I won’t have to worry about getting swept under the surface of a tsunami!
@@Brett_S_420 jayyyysuss, that would scare me silly.
I always thought your dedication to this cause was awesome.
As someone who lives smack dab in the middle of this region, I can tell you it has become startlingly apparent to me that we are not ready for the next Cascadia earthquake and hundreds of thousands of people are going to die
If I'm still living in this apartment when the Big One hits, and I'm at home when it strikes, I fully expect this building, built in 1971, well before we knew about the Cascadia fault and never retrofitted, to fold up like a house of cards and kill me. 😰 Although considering the predicted consequences, maybe that's a better outcome?! 😰😰
I mean if it hits portland maybe but is that really a loss(yes I live here in Oregon and I loathe portland in ways most people cannot fathom) the rest of the state is pretty low population density for the win and well....most predictions I have seen forecast a huge earthquake/series of quakes that will 1. either elevate or sink the coast so ....new coast and/or 2 quake(s) will cause a huge Oregon coast hitting tsunami....which would again go inland possibly 100 miles at worst. Yeah I live about twice that from the coast and feel like I will either just end up living in beach front property if it goes hugely wrong or just be closer to the coast by about 100 miles. Win win!
@@Ice_Karma That sucks! My built in the 1930's of mostly dreams and wishes will blow down or catch fire but in either case we could survive. the walls are like a 1/4 inch of plaster on top of paper. The outside is literally less than an inch away from our doors/walls and both doors have huge gaps so we could simple push them over and walk out. No insulation...no extra anything. Built to house loggers, then thought of as little more than animals so yeah....if a mouse sneezes too hard it gonna fall over like a house of cards.
Cheers from Vancouver Island BC. Come visit before we sink into the sea. 😅
I’ll prolly be stuck in traffic in the middle of a huge bridge with a full bladder having to pee really bad if the megaquake hits. And used to support the idea of a Republic of Cascadia, tho not any longer for several reasons.
Geologist here. When I was in college in Washington, we talked about this only occasionally. Aside from the destruction of a lot of property and civil works, a key point is that most of the Pacific Northwest is connected by only one direct highway (I-5) and if bridges and roads were destroyed, then resources would not be able to be efficiently distributed, and priority would be given to larger cities like Seattle etc. I went to college in Bellingham and they told us we should essentially have an emergency stash of food and water. Water pipelines in cities would be destroyed, so keep a good water filter around.
Evergreen class 1999 and I already survived three 6.5 and above. Watched my house burn after the 1989 quake it destroyed eighty percent of the Santa Cruz downtown. We pulled bodies out of the Old bookstore brick falling was main cause of deaths and injuries best I could tell.
I volunteered with children and lived at Red Cross at
Shelter with them until that roof started to go. Lucky friends took me in for a bit.
Not doing that again. Started having premonition dreams and lucid ones got out of Oregon in 2022
Thank you for the heads up, I am currently looking at moving to Bellingham lol
Go Vikings!
@@maramclaine830We were lucky north up in HMB! Most news coverage was the Marine District, the Bay Bridge and the Cypress Structure Collapse! Little or no news out Santa Cruz! I remember seeing fenced off residences ten plus years later! I attribute the World Series being a life saver! Instead of 50 plus fatalities, hundreds, if not thousands on any other day during commute time!
I went to Western 1972/74. Wonderful memories. Then finished at UW.
I got up, pulled on on my Cascadia hoodie, made a cup of coffee, sat down at my computer, and found this video at the top of my youtube homepage. Excellent. I dream of an alternate timeline where America and Britain settled the Oregon/Columbia territory dispute by establishing it as an independent nation with ties to both.
"Independent" it will never be.
Did you know the Oregon Territory almost became part of Canada? It's true. The only reason it became part of the US is because 2 gentlemen were wanted criminals in Canada, so they voted to become part of the USA where they were not wanted criminals. True Story.
One of the unmentioned concerns here is that the region also hosts 6 active volcanoes, and due to the population distribution in its lahar paths, Mt. Rainier's next eruption is predicted to be potentially one of the deadliest in history.
The region that Simon outlines has a LOT more than just six active volcanoes.
@@just_kos99 Sorry I was thinking more of my local region in western Washington because of the focus on Mt. Rainier in my writing
@@just_kos99but saying it hosts 6 is still true
That's what I thought this was going to be about
modern day Pompeii
For my Geology degree I did my thesis on the Cascadia Subduction Zone. It was even more of a monster disaster than stated in this video. I've been to the forests that were destroyed all the way up to the Mountains. The entire Olympic peninsula dropped 25 to 50 ft after the earthquake. Can you just imagine that happening today...
As a California transplant who has only experienced one mild shaking earthquake and very strongly disliked it, I really don’t want to imagine that
It’s unimaginable
@@betsyjohnson9699Now imagine a Tsunami so powerful the Japanese on the other side of the Pacific took serious notice of it…
I think about it at least once a month. I’m rooting for Mother Nature to do her thing.
@ And then you discover the massive fault under St Louis… (look up “New Madrid”). It’s splitting the entire continent up the Mississippi valley.
That makes the Cascade fault look like a joke…
Everyone talks about the "Big One", and forgets that Mt Rainier (fueled by the same subduction zone) is about due for an eruption. And all the rivers running off of Rainier largely run into South Seattle, Tacoma, and all the suburbs in between. The lahar caused by the flash melting of the glaciers could easily kill half a million people and cut the region off from the outside world by knocking out many of the freeways and damaging the Ports of Seattle and Tacoma.
Heck, that happens with bad snowstorms.
You are so wrong. Gross exaggeration. Quit making stuff up. Name one river that flows from Rainier to south Seattle.
@ search “Mt Rainier Lahar Map”. The lahar would go into the Green River, which goes into the Duwamish, which feeds into Elliott Bay.
@@stonejohnson122 These will be rivers that form immediately upon the volcano's explosion. They don't exist now, duh, and will run down existing valleys.
You don't need a quake or an eruption to trigger a lahar. There is clear evidence of major mud flows from Rainier/Tahoma reaching almost to Commencement Bay. Excavations for freeways and large buildings and port projects in the Fife area have found stands of trees still upright and buried in mud.
I was born in Alaska, and grew up in/live in WA State. I’ve never lived outside of this region. It’s beautiful, but that beauty comes at a cost that our infrastructure is in absolutely no way prepared for. It’ll be a nightmare when this happens.
It could happen anytime in the next 5,000 years
I grew up in Florida and moved to Oregon as a young teen. Oregon has been nothing but breathtakingly beautiful at all hours of the day, even through wildfire smoke and harsh snowfalls. Of course Cascadia scares the shit out of me, but I'm gonna enjoy the beauty while we still got it. Hope the Mountains protect me from the tsunami since I live pretty far inland.
I'm in the greater Seattle area and love my Cascadian flag! It's not a movement people really take that seriously, it's more a thought experiment. We do take The Big One seriously though. When it hits, it's estimated pretty much everything west of i-5 is a goner. It's also not really known how it will affect our 6 active volcanoes....
We die. Puyallup and Orting are definite gone when Rainier blows. Toss in a massive earthquake all of the sisters will blow. We die in mud and fire
A better movement than the "Greater Idaho " one.
That's usually how it goes though, doesnt it? It starts out as a thought experiment, a "what if" or "what could have been", until one day, it's no longer just a thought experiment, its an experiment.
A tinderbox is being built under us, and the moment that there is a spark it will all ignite. Just as it did in the HRE and the disparate Italian states.
@@vikingspud That's political. If a disaster on this scale were to happen, differences between liberal and conservative would be minimal.
As a frequent Seattle visitor, yes I agree. Cascadia seems kind of like a local meme but it's fun to see the flags around the place and to see this group of adjoining states that were British-controlled until the 1860s still finding an identity together. But honestly I don't think they really want to secede from the US and Canada - they are going to need every bit of help they can get from the east and elsewhere when the big one hits.
I remember the 6.8 in 2001, cracked a wall in my classroom and destroyed a beam in the gym. It also did major damage to the state Capitol in Olympia.
I remember that one! I lived in Carnation at the time, my mom came and got me from school cus they were worried the Tolt levee would rupture.
I remember that too, I was ten and in my classroom in Olympia. The teacher screamed at us to get under our desks and I watched as the TV bolted to the ceiling shook crazily over the girl underneath it, it didn't fall though. Then we got sent home for the day
I also remember it and was about 6 yo. The school I went to in Seattle was an old brick building and had quite a bit of damage to it. A gas line actually broke in our class and they had to move us to another part of the building. Although idk why the whole school was not evacuated.
I also remember a teacher of mine in middle school talking about the big one and Mt. Rainer erupting and that both are considered over due. Basically if it is by the water it is gone. Even talking about how most of Downtown Seattle and Georgetown and other places in that area would be “liquidated”. Definitely not prepared for it at all.
Even though everyone living in the area is aware that it will happen we just don’t talk about it.
@@PatrickMJr Lots of unpredictable things can happen, eg a quake causes a landslide that temporarily blocks or diverts a river, then once enough water builds up, it breaks loose all of a sudden causing flash flooding across roads, school, homes etc. Check out what happened at New Madrid in 1812 - the Mississippi flowed backwards for two hours. These kind of events can be cataclysmic.
@@lorithomas9536 Maybe "liquidated" but possibly you are referring to "liquefaction". This is a geologic process that can make large areas unsafe and uninhabitable after an earthquake. This is what happened in a large area of central Christchurch, NZ, after its big quakes in 2011.
Also, fun fact; there isn't really a plan for what happens with The Big One hits. Like, yeah, there are roads with signs designating them for evacuation/emergency services, but there isn't a body responsible for them, or for enforcing it. Learned that when doing my urban search and rescue training on the island.
Getting people out of the way with a fire? In case the fault goes?
There is a body responsible for the region. In 2009 I was on a Team in Hawaii (responsible for disaster coordination for the Pacific), we worked with the Team responsible for the Cascadia Region. Our Team, along with three other Teams from around the US spent a week with the local Team learning about the region, the plans, and how we would plug in to assist coordination efforts. Then we spent another week running a “wargame” exercise.
I couldn’t tell you what local, city, county, and state folks are doing. But at the Federal level, there are people anticipating this.
That one "tsunami zone" sign at Esquimalt lagoon is doing a lot of heavy lifting 😅.
There isn't really a plan cuz there is no good plan. Anything west of I5 is toast and should expect to not even receive aid for a month+ The region's roads are so bad that when I5 gets taken out there's not even a good way to get aid to the area. Saying this as someone living west of I5 currently.
@ maybe in America. on the Canadian side, not so much. At least, not when I was doing urban search and rescue with the military
I studied this fault in college when I was at Humboldt state. The last time it ruptured was terrifying. Imagine a 9.0 earthquake happening at 930pm in January when you live in a small fishing based tribe with no electricity. Absolutely horrifying
When it happens, you will become a small fishing tribe with no electricity.
😂 “I’m on the brute squad”
“You ARE the brute squad”
@snickle1980 "if only we had a holocaust cloak"
Buildings and large scale infrastructure are the major problems in an earthquake. While those folks may have been terrified, they were mostly safe.
For someone who in my lifetime, moved from Vancouver ... to the interior of BC (Kamloops) ... for normal family and lifestyle reasons ... I'd be lying if it didnt cross my mind that I was moving away from a disaster waiting to happen, and potentially moving towards future seaside property.
Kidding ... but not entirely.
We have grown up with this knowledge deeply ingrained into our psyche ... the big one is coming.
I live on the coast and my friends moved to eastern Oregon, I told her SHE would have waterfront property soon!😫
im in kamloops too
So, as I understand it, every time Cascadia goes, it sets off San Andreas in a big way, too. Portland, Seattle, and the whole Northwest could be competing for aid with San Francisco and Los Angeles. I think that for a considerable amount of time afterward, you must assume that you will be on your own. The scary thing is that this is not some "scare you" possibility. This is a certainty. Aid will certainly come from around the world, but there will be great difficulty in accessing it.
You guys get some nasty wildfires out your way. You really can't escape Mom nature and her indifferent wrath.
and it's more deadly friend - tsunami's.
Cascadia Subduction Zone: “Goodnight Washington, most likely kill you in the morning.”
Simon hits close to home today! I live near the Cascades, am in the National Guard, and am currently studying emergency management 😅 so this is my jam right here
I live on Vancouver Island and all I’ve heard my whole life here is “we’re overdue for the ‘Big One’”
Local disaster prep groups talk about the months it would take to get supplies to us, and the decade it would take to rebuild. Mountains, oceans, rivers, hundreds of bridges, thousands of miles, millions of people... survivors will be their own nation for a while, weather we like it or not.
I think about that just if Mt. Rainier erupts and the subsequent Lahar buries everything from Orting to Tacoma up all the way to Renton. Highways, Railways, hundreds of thousands of people in the way.
We could fly everything in.
Yea this isnt the kind of disaster you can just recover from right away, even fully prepared.
@@Situtlab If Rainier goes, Sea-Tac will likely be out. Who knows? Maybe Payne Field or other airports might be able to operate.
In the case of a Great Reset or apocalypse, one could see the new Cascadia arising from the ashes.
Everyone forgets about Mt St Elias, which helps make the northern border of the Cascadia bio-region. It is the second tallest Mountain in North America and basically rises up near the coast to create one of the most extreme vertical reliefs in the world - going from sea level to over 18,000 ft in less than 10 miles.
Mt.Logan is taller,
So is Pico de Orizaba.
CASCADIA AND PACIFICA FTW!
Love it here, and considering current politics of the USA would love it if we could manage to get out of this mess and be our own place... but they won't let us, for sure.
Living here with the beauty (not the cost of living 😅) comes with a certain buzz of the knowledge that that comes with the risk of death.
I swear this is like the third Cascadia Fault video Simon has made for different channels
Yes. It's a shame that so often he clearly isn't even listening to himself speak, let alone understanding what the scriptwriter wrote. He makes some real howlers and doesn't even notice.
Yes, he spoke of the “east coast” early in this video.
I live just south of Seattle, we’ve been warned about it ever since I was a kid. We had earthquake drills and all that. It’s just something you live with here, at some point it’ll happen. Maybe in 5 minutes maybe in 500 years. Who knows. But, what are you going to do if the earth splits open and eats everything west of i5? Not much. Something we knew about here but don’t worry about. If it happens, it happens.
During the 1700 quake a portion of the south end of Bainbridge Island was lifted 30 feet and remains there today, we went to see it for a geology field trip in middle school. Hella cool
I mean the mountain ranges form what's commonly known as the 'Ring of Fire', so yeah, very fun possibilities for the future of the PNW!
Secret!?!? Pounded into my head over 44 years in the PNW
I would say it's a pipe dream that idaho would form a country with Oregon washington and British Columbia which are all very liberal, take a trip to Idaho or just follow what their lawmakers do and you'd quickly understand they're all hard-core conservatives, fundamentalist Christians, and Maga lots and lots of Maga, driving there to visit my parents is wild 😂
The "Greater Idaho" movement seeks to have the southern portion of the state of Oregon and everything east of the Portland area join Idaho - primarily for political reasons. They're tired of their lifestyles dictated by Portland and the northwest sector of that state. Idaho is already on board with this idea.
Is it possible? On paper, yes. All they'd legally need is the approval of Washington and the Oregon state government. Washington may approve such a move, depending of course on which political party is in power. But Oregon's governor? THAT would take one hell of a bribe.
@@zeus014
That land actually costs oregon more than it generates for oregon, so by taking that land, idaho would be investing in a huge money sink, especially considering how few new citizens they'd get to boost their tax revenue. It would be funny to see all the people who moved from washington and oregon to idaho because of the lower taxes suddenly have to pay way more taxes to upkeep all the new infrastructure they'd be taking on. I would feel bad for all the minimum wage workers though because they'd probably get their pay slashed to 7.25
BC is similar to Oregon. Specifically, 2 large urban centres push their authoritarian socialist ideals on the vast areas of the rest of the province. I live in interior BC and have far more in common with the rural folk of Idaho, Oregon, Alberta, and Montana than I do with the blue haired nut cases of Vancouver Island or the lower mainland.
@ certainly lots to consider.
So, they're the normal, intelligent, hard working, non crazy people. Got it. 😉
As a member of a Cascadian independence movement myself I appreciate the shoutout
"You're a slave to history."
-a true cascadian
As someone who grew up in the area. You just kinda get use to it and be thankful we don’t get hurricanes.
Or tornados. I gladly prefer the earthquake/lahar/tsunami risk vs huricanes and tornados.
“You’re a slave to history…” - Crimson 1
If Dwayne Johnson ever wanted to make a San Andreas sequel? I'd set it here and call it... CASCADIA! Earthquakes, Volcanoes, Tsunami's, Lahar's and Wildfire's all rolled into one!
That movie had no right on being as entertaining as it was.
@@stickynorth I thought they made that already, Dante's Peak?
Plus it's basically a northern jungle
As long as things don't go all orange, I'm good. Crimson 1 needs to keep his fingers off Presidia
The idea that the puget sound can be Pompeii-ed just makes me want to move near seattle so i can watch it burn right before i go out in a pyroclastic wave.
There are no volcanoes that close to Seattle to have anything short of a VEI 8 to cause a pyroclastic flow, and we don't have any historical volcanoes that big, even Mount Mazama wasn't a VEI8.
"Mount Mazama's eruption had a Volcanic Explosivity Index (VEI) of 7, making it one of the largest eruptions in the late Quaternary period. The eruption occurred around 7,700 years ago"
Mt. Ranier is too far for a pyroclastic flow, but lahars would reach it.
If ya gotta go, why not some final drama.
Honestly, I'd say less pyroclastic wave and more likely a giant log will come rushing along in a flood of mud and ice and hit you in the head!
It's already a bit of a dumpster fire...
i live in Tofino... a tiny(2500 permanent residents) on the West Coast of Vancouver Island... yes.... my town will be wiped off the map... but the indigenous community here survived the last big one... we'll make it through the next one.
The second--largest earthquake ever recorded was a 9.2 quake on Good Friday 1964 near Anchorage, Alaska, on the subduction zone there. It crerated huge tsunamis, shook for nearly 5 minutes and dropped large amounts of land into the ocean (and rose the seabed up in some places). Most people tend to forget about that one. Alaska has more frequent earthquakes than Cascadia but who knows when the next huge quake up there will be? That one sent a tsnunami down to Hawaii as well as to Crescent City, CA, and elsewhere along the shores of the Pacific.
4ft waves at The Presidio in SF.
On behalf of the westcoast of Canada we feel for your pain
When I was in grade school (I feel so old) we had to bring earthquake kits to school, and did regular earthquake drills. As far as I know, they don’t do this in the Vancouver area any longer. We were always told the big one is coming any day now. This used to be a major conversation at all times through the 90’s and early 2000’s.
Cascadia, if created in a way that had it control and obtain all currently stationed/stored military assets, would have the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world and a military that would rival most European nations.
We also have the possibility of setting off the Yellowstone super-volcano if Rainier decides it wants to be ultra destructive 😂
We just had a 7.0 earthquake in Northern California, no tsunamis. We got an alert here in souther Oregon but i didnt feel it but a friend (who lives in Humbolt county) said it was the strongest shes ever felt and the most scared she's ever been during a quake. So we are having decent sized quakes in the cascadia zone
I too live in Humboldt.. it was crazy long.
On behalf of the westcaost of Canada were sorry that happened to you.
Cascadia Subduction Zone, Nankai Rift and Campi Flagrei are all classed as imminent cataclysmic geological events by many geologists, imminent in geological terms and this is not alarmist talk as all three are high probabillty events in the next 20-50 years. Cataclysmic in that these three events, two earthquakes and one 'super' volcano will destroy large parts of civilisation in the areas they form, CSZ and Nankai are all the more devastating is not only would cause a 8-9+ initial quake, but you're also likely to get multiple 8+ aftershocks on top of already damaged infrastructure and land mass (liquefaction of ground soil). The CSZ event would likely disturb other fault zones such as San Andreas, Hayward or other faults alongside the many volcanos that form along the west coast further compounding from what is already a cataclysmic event to an Armageddon leaving large swathes of the Pacific coasts of many countries as barren wastelands. Consider how devasting the 2004 India Ocean Quake was worldwide, and that was a hundred miles off of Sumatra in the ocean. All three of the above are under or close to major population areas.
Campi Flagri is even more nightmare inducing, it is one of the most active volcanos in the word and Naples is built into the heart of it's caldera. When it goes up, and depending on the VEI it will forever reshape Italy and the Mediterranean coastlines of Europe, Middle East and Africa. The resulting Tsunami would only the be the start of the regions woes as you're probably looking at a death toll in 100s of millions from the initial event alone with the continuing eruption lasting days or years causing untold worldwide ecological and atmospheric damage, and the Campi Flagri also has Mt Eta, Santorini, Stromboli, Vesuvius to name of the regions most destructive volcanos which would just as likely be triggered into blowing around the same time.
All these events will kill hundreds of thousands of people and tens of millions probably billions of people around the world will be affected for decades following as countries who provide trade and resources taken out of the fragile international markets. These are the types of events that could cause major sociological unrest and collapse of countries and rewrite history forever. All three areas have shown heightened activity in recent years, in particular Campi Flagri and the Nankai Rift last year. Sleep well!
Fun times
I just moved to the Everett area (north of Seattle), and let me tell you, I’ve already got a go bag ready! Better safe than sorry, even if I never use it, it feels so much better having one than not. Especially looking at what’s happened recently in California and last years hurricane season.
Living in a place like that, the go bag is just as useful as a teddy bear. Everyone will be trying to leave and it will just be gridlock as far as the eye can see. I mean shit the roads are gridlocked all day everyday during normal travel.
@@Ski_3_p_o yup! But I live 250+ feet above sea level, so I’ll be safe (hopefully) from any initial tsunamis, it’s the aftermath that will be the worst for me specifically. A couple weeks of food/water and some basic supplies are all I should realistically need in that kind of situation. Hopefully it never comes to pass, but to me it’s better to be slightly prepared than not at all.
@@Ski_3_p_o A go-bag is sometimes the kit you keep at work because the day of the quake, all the bridges will be down and official advice is you are likely to have to hike home. So you need water, energy bars, batteries etc because you might be walking for hours or days.
I was a disaster responder. I recommend one for the house and one for the car in case you are out. Even if there isn't a large event, the majority of emergencies are going to be a situation of 1 or very local. Or they stuff can happen that people can't even predict. My neighborhood and 2 historical towns were flooded in a FREAK rainstorm that was out of a movie that opened up like a paranormal event above us. Then a few years later a derecho, which are worse than tornados, not talked about nearly enough, and can happen anywhere. I had no notice for that either and the national gaurd had to get us out first and took a week to respond to the public. People always think the government will rescue them, and as someone who was that government, a lot of times they can't. Prepare accordingly. Also plan multiple escape routes. I usually advise people that if all else fails, go northwest. But in your case you are the northwest. 😅 It's weird that it works but because of the way climate and geology works in north America, most problems travel west to east.
It is the GPNW, or Great Pacific North West, not just the Pacific North West. Call me provincial but we really are proud of the place.
I grew up on Vancouver Island, the constant talks of "The Big One" are scary to be honest. It would be apocalyptic. I've since moved further inland but the devastation to my friends and family who still live on the coast is something that gets brought up now and again.
Hello from Saanich.
It's no secret. We've known, and been waiting for it, since the 1900s.
Love how my place is simply Australia. Yeah.
We are simply Australia, regardless of the failed state of Victoria (or really Melbourne since Victoria doesn't exist outside Caroline Springs to the leftists in Spring Street) seeking otherwise.
And all of it wants to kill you.
@@James-xo8jm Is this a joke I’m not maga enough to understand?
Um, y'all got some pretty dangerous stuff over there too! At least Cascadia doesn't have Crocs, funnel web spiders, king browns or box jellyfish 🪼... We do have rattlesnake, black windows, mountain lion and bear 🐻.. I'll take my chances with them and earthquake rather than live in the Danger continent.. thank you very much! Y'all did give us AC/DC though, that is awesome 👍
Yes we're lucky that our continent sits all on one tectonic plate but that Alpine Fault over in Unzud is a big one waiting to happen. It has caused tsunamis along the east coast of Australia before, like only hundreds of years ago.
We're not immune from quakes either - they go off regularly in various places. In 1989, out of the blue, 15 people died in the NSW city of Newcastle when a quake just popped off one day.
Idaho doesn’t want to play Cascadia with us. And that’s cool.
Yes, we certainly don't want to play Cascadia with you.
Logistically not having the snake river under cascadias control would be a problem. Nerdy answer but I’m from Idaho. PS I’ll take joining Oregon over Utah 😂
Right, Idaho don't play.
95% of Washington by land ownership does not want to be apart of your communist movement.
Agreed, Those in Western WA and Western Oregon have mental illness (The trees and rain?). Keep them out of Idaho
I went to an 'Emergency Preparedness' event in Yelm, Washington. It surprised the hell out of me that no one, I mean no one, had any information on this. It was just a sales event for all kinds of things, but they simply knew nothing about this. It was troubling. I bought some hi-tech tape and left.
This region being an independent country was a central feature of "Ecotopia: The Notebooks and Reports of William Weston," a utopian novel by Ernest Callenbach, published in 1975.
The timber resources that would quickly run out if fully exploited...as someone who lives in this region. Hell no.
Use them up before the tsunami gets them!
As someone who lives in the Cascadia region (BC), the amount of names Simon is pronouncing wrong is driving me crazy! 🤣 Also, they've been talking about the "Big One" quake since I was a little kid in the 90s. The cities of Cascadia (Seattle, Vancouver, etc) have some of the strictest building codes related to earthquakes and wildfires.
I had to rewind 4 times just to hear him say "Juan de Fuca" again 😂😂😂
People keep talking about merging Canada and the US but I have yet to meet another Canadian who isn’t utterly repulsed by the idea lol
As we should be.
People?😂 Trump the moron, he, kim jong and hitler. Tho only ones who say that
It would take away one of their favorite things, silently judging America
@@Adiscretefirmguilty as charged, yeah 😂
Not sure why Trump wants yall, but most of us don't want Canada to join the US either.
Oregon has been working on retro fitting and replacing buildings and infrastructure. There's still a long way to go of course. After the shaking stops, the Portland metro area faces soil liquification; potential inundation from the Columbia, Willamette, Clackamas and Tualatin rivers which could also change in their courses too; our largest medical facilities are on top of the Tualatin hills and along the Willamette river -- nobody mentions that as an issue. Planning to be cut off and without services for an extended time is something more people should consider -- and not just for a large earthquake. It was great to see familiar places here! Thank you for covering this!
Yes. The region is spending hundred of millions to upgrade infrastructure and the "The Big One" is fairly common knowledge among residents. However, as you state, the amount of time for critical response to reach many residents will be counted in months to say nothing of rebuilding infrastructure.
The biggest danger to these people is their government.
americans do nothing until after they need to.
Yeah the tsunami will travel right up the Columbia, and then to the Willamette, etc. Not going to be pretty. Practice my escape but I’m on a landslide prone valley nearby. Was fun while it lasted!
You didn’t mention Kitsap-Bangor, JBLM & Whidbey Island. Even many mossbacks are not fully aware of these details or what is really here on that spectrum. Or the history of Boeing-Hanford 😳🙄😳. We don’t even need to talk about Microsoft, Amazon, Starbucks etc. ALL Cascadian, by Cascadians. It’s a place, not a concept. Oh, not to mention the Chinese power relocating to BC…
I was at the mouth of Humboldt Bay when the 7.0 earthquake hit. Immediatly I headed home, because it's above 200'. 16 miles thru the city, into the mountains. I was home before the tsunami warning was issued. No traffic after a major earthquake, no one else heading UP. No one else thinking... tsunami, BEFORE the warning.
Cascadia isn't ready.
Long live Free Cascadia!
Cascadia is a philosophical concept beyond state and country boarders.
Just a quick note, but the Cascadian flag isn't only flown by supporters of the Timbers. All 3 Cascadian clubs (seattle, Vancouver, and Portland) all proudly fly the flag.
I'll take my chances, I'm moving back to Washington in '27. I miss my views of Mt. Rainier and the ability to go to the Salish Sea whenever I wanted. Being landlocked sucks.
This was very informative, love it.
pnw misses you but there's sooooo many Californians now & it's crazy expensive from Seattle Silicon... prep yourself sister
@ You’re so sweet! I was in Kent, my mom took ill so I had to move back to Wyoming for a while. Yeah, the cost of living is high, but my husband can make twice as much doing there what he does here and I too, could make more than $11/hr. No one pays here unfortunately.
If you're land-locked in MO like I am, take me with you. I spent 2/3 of my life in the greater Seattle area, and miss Mt Rainier terribly.
Stay in WY. I moved back to WA when I retired, and it is notthing like the state I grew up in. It has especially gone off the deep (left) end the past 10 years.
@@Kriss_L Seattle is a hell hole now!!! I moved years ago and now I won’t even visit!
I used to live in the Seattle area and did occasionally think about the possibility of a fast moving earthquake disaster. I eventually moved to the desert southwest to enjoy the far slower, relaxed pace of a megadrought.
As someone from Vancouver BC, I find it funny the Cascadia flag has the same colours as our hockey team the Canucks 😂
well, we know what the national past time will be now, if the earth quakes or tsunamis or volcanoes or rain don't get us first.
To be fair just about everything in the region is green, blue, white if you're trying to evoke the regional colors. Just like everything is Forest themed or coastal themed
😂
Also, my view of Mt. Baker from the big Vancouver is really amazing.
Good summary but I've gotta take some minor issue with the title. There hasn't been anything secret about the subduction zone since I was a kid in the 80s.
Vancouver, BC checking in! We’re still here… will report back tomorrow).
Where is Crimson 1, when you need him.
You're a slave to history.
Hello fellow pw fan
British Columbia isn't a state. It's a province. And the Yukon is a territory.
I had to stop watching after that part. If this guy doesn't know that, what does he know?
A state doesn’t have provinces
@@fubleach2 British Columbia & the Yukon are in Canada. We don't have states.
@@neilpk70 I don't think he writes them. But he needs a fact checker!
And It's the US West Coast not the east.
The way he says "Australia. Simply Australia" sounds like "Zoot. Just Zoot" 😂
“17,500,000 million people”
That’s a lot of people, Simon.
From Portland to Vancouver. It took about one second to remember Vancouver BC. There are a couple of writing mistakes in here.
I can’t wait to move back to Vancouver Island.Happiest I’ve ever been there and I’ll take eartwuakes over polluted Ontario.B.C is freaking gorgeous
I love living on Vancouver Island, i will never leave.
I’m a huge fan of your highway. 10/10
It is a paradise on Van Isle , so I never left. The sea protects us from all manner of
"Florida men" , and idiots, who inhabit the mainland.
As a lifelong Oregonian, I think about the impending doom that is the Cascadia mega quake on a daily basis. When I'm away from my kids, I panic at the thought of the earthquake hitting & being unable to get to them. It's a huge consideration for me but like... it could happen tomorrow or 100 years from now. It's terrifying 🫠
I was little, but I remember earthquakes in 79 leading up to Mt. St. Helen's in 1980. It may not be "known for" them, but they've had minor-moderate quakes for centuries up there
Thanks for so many clips of my home town (Portland). From my childhood in the sixties, we are aware. The Mount Saint Helens eruption on 5/18/1980 was a stark reality of the activities just under our feet. Mt Tabor is a dormant volcano set in the center of Portland with four others in the surrounding area. The Cascade range seismic surveillance started in 1958 providing fair warning to those that choose to evacuate or prepare.
An orphan tsunami might be more terrifying than one that follows a huge earthquake.
This is why I live in Spokane. It'll be ocean front property someday. (Also, that's why Amazon is moving their hub here. The complex is huge and growing)
Born and raised at the base of Mt Rainier and no matter the risk I'll never leave. I was 8 when Mt St Helens blew and it was a mess but we lived through it. I lost cousins in the Oso land slide but it's a risk we are willing to take to live in beautiful serenity.
My favorite part about Places is the fake desk and window. Those flowers really made me laugh.
I loved your coverage of WNC recently simon! I live in lake lure and can't believe I got to hear you talk about my town, even if it wasn't in a good context 😅
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0:49 Ok simon you have to re-edit this, this is the WEST coast not the east, I'm from the UK but I'm sure even the US will realise this mistake
Indeed
Came here looking for this comment.
Yep, Simon,...what are we going to do with you,...you finally come to my neighborhood and look how you act,...tisk tisk,...I have barely started your video, and I want to listen and hear what you've learned about our little corner of the world,...but your somewhere on planet New York, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts. I guess I'll watch something else,...not a hater,. I can wait until you get back from the bank, check the comments, and then change it,...I'll wait,...
Not a hater,...I'll just wait,...ha ha
"even the US" 🙄
Is the UK currently in position to trot out lazy nationalistic stereotypes?
Thank you for using your channel to talk about this subject. I've been prepping for this monster but it's difficult to prep for 2 major conflagrations...major earthquake, followed by a tsunami. 😮
Big fan Simon. Thanks for covering my home! Cascadia is a cultural identity in a way as well. We tend to have common values that mix individualism without a predominant right-wing mentality. Not across the board but predominant.
I have lived in Portland Oregon my whole life. Individualism with a heavy dose of kindness. At least that is the way I see it.
Whatever develops there, make sure it is without a predominant left-wing mentality. CA has that . . . . 'nuff said.
You must live in the city....
I've lived in the Portland area for 17 years, it SUCKS now,i want to leave. Whatever that "cascadia" identity is, sorry, i don't share it. I'm looking into moving away from this dump. I don't even remember what I saw in this place when i fist moved here, what a mistake!
@ Then move. I have lived in Oregon my whole life. It is people who have moved here in the last decade or so who have changed it. Normally I think we should all work together to improve it. But, seriously? Move. You do not understand our past, and where we came from. You just want to complain.
Good Riddance.
I'm from Northern BC and back in the 90s they taught us that the big one is due any year (within the next 100 years) and could strike any time. It's in the record showing a massive earthquake every 1000 years. Recently, they changed the prediction to within the next 50 years.
I'd love to see Simon cover New Zealand's Alpine fault which is very similar to the Cascadia faultline, probably with a much higher chance of rupturing and just as deadly. If the Alpine Fault ruptures, it will affect the whole country, but the South Island would be affected the most as the faultline runs right up the middle of the island. I hope it never happens in my lifetime as I live close to the faultline and it's long overdue for "The Big One".
it's overdue, But for a big one? Eventually sure, but it's overdue for a stretch. it's also mostly a slip strike fault, they can be pretty localised
If you want to get really terrified about this, take a daytrip by road to Milford Sound. You drive through a tunnel hewn from solid rock, water dripping from the roof over the one-lane road. In the course of that 2km-or-so tunnel, you cut right through the Alpine Fault and if it decides to slip while you're in there, you'd probably know as much about it as a grasshopper knows when he hits a windscreen!
My hometown (Eugene, OR) recently had the local hospital network downsize to having only one emergency room located on one side of the river. The mayor and town were (and still are) really frustrated by this because it means when the Big One hits one side of the river (the side with downtown Eugene and University of Oregon) won’t have an emergency room to access if bridges collapse.
Australia is a biogeographic realm with 89 bioregions.
3 actually. Not so hot, hot and fucking hot. 🥵
My mom's town is in the middle of Vancouver Island. The highway from the east coast to the west coast of the island goes through her town. It was last year (or the year before) that wildfires wiped out a good portion of the highway, and for a few weeks no supplies came in, since the only other available road was an unpaved logging road, which semi trucks are not able to use. I live in the UK where everything is connected by road AND rail, and it amazes me how people in Canada are so blasé about having the most minimal of transport connections (the TransCanada highway is another weak link). If that fault rips, it's going to be really devastating.
Why would you use AI generated images when you can literally use "The Wave"? Ya know, super famous Japanese painting based upon this very tsunami you're referring to?
Probably because he manages like 1,886,284 channels and it'd just be easier to say "CHATGPT show me an image of insert subject here..."
Copyright? (Idk). I believe the Museum of Modern Art in Chicago owns that painting.
I was in grade school in Bremerton when the Good Friday quake struck.
Although the epicenter was over 1200 miles distant, there wasn't a single one of our neighbors that didn't have some sort of damage to their homes.
Broken windows, collapsed chimneys, failed water-mains shooting mud-geysers into the air, buckled streets and side-walks, power-lines sputtering on the ground.
I love the Pacific Northwest.
Did you know that the town of Nisqually has a Lahar Surfing Club?
Surf-boards on the roof of their homes...just in case.
Good way to get 1st degree burns on your toesies. =}
I love that Japan is investing an insane amount of money into disaster preparedness and we're just kinda like: lol, hope that doesn't happen and if it does guess I'mma just die!
Their next set of containment walls will be higher than the last lot . . . ?
FEMA: "Our working assumption is everything west of I5 is TOAST."
There's extreme poverty in-between rich city centers. Nirvana's Kurt Cobain came from a town in the poor parts so did his wife. If you visit a place like that, you understand the music very well suddenly. The nature is beautiful though. Astounding. You should do a motorcycle ride through the areas. Totally worth it!!
Can confirm, I live in Ocean Shores which is 40 mins outside of Aberdeen where he grew up. Aberdeen is definitely a rough place in a lot of ways, but it also has its own charm that’s grown on me over time.
@@relaxingsounds5469 I stayed in a B&B up on the hill in Aberdeen and it was absolutely delightful. Lots of historic houses up on that hill and definitely a different feel than the gritty downtown with its big stroads.
Courtney Love doesn't quite have the working class cred of her late husband! (Not that Kurt really played on that anyway.) Courtney's maternal grandparents set her up with a trust fund, worth something like $500 per month in the late 80s. Her dad was a road manager or something for the Grateful Dead in the 70s. Her mom is psychologist and author. Love was sent to boarding school in New Zealand and did time in various PNW "juvie" institutions. She also lived in the UK as a teenager/young adult and lives there now. She looves haute couture and glamorous events so personally I just don't see poverty as a big part of her backstory. Certainly not now - she's very rich on the back of Kurt's songs.
@@VanillaMacaron551 Yea it has a real vibe to it that’s hard to explain. I live right up the street from a hotel that Kurt worked at as a janitor for a while. His legacy is still very much felt out here.
“I’m here for the volcanoes and the salmon, and the fascinating possibility that at any moment the volcanoes could erupt and pre-poach the salmon.” -Tom Robbins