Betty White said the studios used to keep her as a date for him because they knew he was gay. She said she didn’t mind because he was a good friend of hers.
@@KarineAlourdeyour channel is very nice, glad I found it. It’s interesting to see that the industry has always been dark to pretty much everyone who entered, no matter what you look like.
In an attempt to get into Hollywood print modeling and show business in 79-80 (I was approached), my first contact was with a photographer (the approacher) that kicked off with SA! I was 20 and naive, but I gave it a year and felt him grooming me for something other than the business alone! By the end of that year I saw another level headed my way and decided I wanted out of there! I was able to collect a beautiful portfolio and shortly moved away from California altogether! It just wasn’t something I could endure psychologically! And thank goodness!
Sheesh. I exhaled when you did NOT end that with a horror story. Thx for sharing that! I'm sorry my state has yet to make that place its own state. They need their own legal system and everything. Ijs ❤ Holly, WD (city Holy... state WEIRD AF)
@@KarineAlourde oh it ended well! But my story was previously sugar coated!! The last straw was the biggest red flag to abandon ship! And the year I spent with the photographer while he was bartering with me! We didn’t have sx and I didn’t do anything to him, just him to me, I guess the only reason I let it go that far was because I was already used to being molested! And it was always a given that if you wanted to be a part of Hollyweird, you knew there was naturally that preverbal casting couch theme! Weird how back then the threshold was so high to what you might do! But believe me I am thankful that I had the line in the sand! I remember having that dark feeling when entering LA!! I lived in San Gabriel Valley. Couldn’t put my finger on it back then!! But in and out of that year I also had a few great memories of modeling in Santa Monica and meeting many celebrities at a skate benefit! And I had a private teacher that was teaching me how to read lines at her home in Hollywood! She was a character actress named Lureen Tuttle!! Sweet lady! Look her up! Oh and the photographer worked for Globe! A rag sheet like the National Enquirer! Turns out he was paparazzi!! I came out unscathed unlike many that didn’t! I appreciate that I had enough sense to know when said photographer set up an appointment to meet in a motel with 3-4 Asian guys and take off my top, that was the defining moment!! I’m surprised I’m alive to tell about it!! So when you’re telling stories of so many actors and actresses, it brings back my own memories and I never even made it to fame! I just experienced the tip of the iceberg! And like I said, I have a beautiful album full of pictures when I was 19-20 to give to look back on and give to my children!
@@SpiceyKy I can only imagine how much weirder it got since I left in 80! When I go back to visit, it scares the crap out of me once I hit LA/Santa Monica!! It feels like Satans Den!!
Rock was soooooo gorgeous! I tell you, Hollyweird is a cruel place! They want to change things on you or things about yourself is ridiculous! Talent isn't enough! I loved Pillow Talk and Magnificent Obsession of Rocks movies! I was about 14 when he had passed away! He was wasting away! I will always respect him as a great actor! He was a legend! Thanks for this on Rock!❤❤❤❤❤💋💋💋💋😊😊😊
I love that you dive into a person's career beginnings, but seeing what a seedy, smarmy, depraved pit Hollywood is, I feel like I need a shower afterwards. Gotta say Rock Hudson is GORGEOUS.
Rock Hudson was one of the MOST handsome men from the Golden Age. There were so MANY handsome and elegant men during that time. Harry Belafonte, Marlon Brando, Sidney Poitier, Cary Grant, etc. etc. etc. He was a good actor too. I liked him in Magnificent Obsession with Jane Wyman. May Rock Hudson rest in peace. He was the first famous AIDS casualty I knew of and I was only 4. So sad. 😔🙏🏾❤️🕊️
I remember when his diagnosis came out. Living in Atlanta at the time and being in the restaurant business, I saw a lot of young men going quickly. So awful.
@@Mr.Majestic77 Yes. I worked with one guy who became so ill, so quickly, that he was going to a Mayo (I believe) hospital for experimental drug tests. He knew he was dying, so was willing to try anything.
The stuff coming out about this entertainment industry including music downright frightening. The whole industry needs to be thrown away!!!!! Just pure debauchery and evil!!!!’
Nat King Cole smoked cigarettes to lower his voice and give it the depth that made him a successful vocal artist. He was a heavy smoker for this reason. Many relatives and friends encouraged him to stop smoking, but he kept saying that he would not have the recording career and TV show, etc. if he did not smoke. He said his voice would change and his singing career would end. So, he continued to smoke heavily. Eventually, he was diagnosed with lung cancer and passed away at age 45 from the illness. PS Boy George smoked to attain a certain quality of voice. Since he stopped smoking sometime around 2011, his voice changed from what he described as a "jazzy" quality to a more "soulful" quality.
@@eugeniasyro5774 It was lung cancer. He had his entire left lung removed due to lung cancer and died approximately 2 months later. Possibly the lung cancer metastasized to his throat. But the official cause of death is listed as lung cancer.
@@Boston_CremePie I can't cherish my life,until the voices that mentally torment me everyday,go away,till,depression,anger,is not going away with pills,I need for God to restore my mental health,my physical health,and bless me financially with some big heavenly income,that way I don't have to struggle the way I been struggling.i don't have a car,I don't know,how to drive,I rely on my mother to take me to the doctor's appoiments.well,the difference between me and many people out there,is,I write the truth,I don't write lies,slander.
I totally remember when the story of Rock Hudson’s diagnosis of AIDS broke. It was such a shocking revelation and huge global story. To that point in time, Rock was beloved by the public. His personal life was not widely known until then. Some people were disgusted to learn he was a gay man and they turned away from him. (Mostly led by evangelical leaders.) a majority of people had empathy and for the first time looked at the AIDS crisis with new understanding. Elizabeth Taylor in his honor really stepped up for the AIDS cause and for the gay community generally. She played a huge role in changing the public opinion of AIDS. Thanks for sharing this! ✌🏼
He and Doris Day had the best chemistry. Pillow talk is one of my favorite movies. The documentary of his life on HBO was awesome. You should do one on the speculated lavender marriages of Hollywood.
It was a totally different time, and it was horrible for people who were LGBTQ+. They had to stay in the closet to have a Hollywood career. I’m convinced that Rock was bi or pan instead of strictly gay. This is 100% true that if a major A-lister was about to be exposed, the publicity machine would throw a B or C list celebrity under the bus so the A-lister was left alone. I think that if it wasn’t for social media, this would still be going on today. Marc Christian (Rock Hudson’s last lover) deserves a lot of credit for being brave enough to sue the estate because Rock failed to reveal his AIDS diagnosis to his lover, and he didn’t find out about it until Rock was dying. Luckily, Marc never got HIV.
Who's been with Karine from the start when she was only doing the actresses and started doing the males stars after cause one it would be more interesting in second they we're entangled so much with the females stars baby girl had to know the stories 😂❤ Again nice video Karine ❤
He was dirty and paid dearly for it. His end was a fall from grace, even Hollywood treated him like trash at the very end while he was in Hospice. God doesn’t sleep.
Agree with your grandparents comment. The funny thing is they were conservative but had multiple relationship, lots of children and use expletives constantly.
Thank you so much for airing this From someone who is gay I really Appreciated hearing about rock Hudson I had tested negative 3 times For HIAV and I was on symphony for Rock Hudson thank you for telling his Story.
Yeah that was pretty normal, if you watch old biographical movies or documentaries the military with all the young men together sort of accepted it and in one they describe how in england they'd go cruising in the park and there'd be guys from the navy and they went with you in pairs, you'd pick the one you wanted and pay them. And those guys wouldn't technically be thought of as gay. Being together made it safer for them. I guess if that's the only way you could get some sexual contact and it wasn't never forced or traumatic maybe they were just more flexible about it.
Well done ❤ You raised a lot of great points about our grandparents acting so proper and meanwhile… back at the ranch…😂 and that Hollywood was way more interesting then than today’s weirdos
Karine, I had to knock on wood because we said it at the same time... I didn't know you could have surgery to lower your voice either! Thanks for the video bc I learned more about RH than I previously knew 😊
After his death, many of his gay crowd were interviewed saying fond things about him. Several of them mentioned Rocks wild sex parties by his pool where, according to them, he liked to pull young teens in (delivery guys, etc) to try and lure them into the life: "Yes, " they recalled with amusement, "Rock liked them young.". Rock and his friends, for that reason, disgusted and still disgust me. Even then, if a straight person had said this, he would be correctly ripped apart for it. But gay or trans or whatever, people are either so afraid or so brainwashed, they say nothing. Leave kids alone.
This is my main issue with these people. They NEVER leave kids alone. I’d really like a study to be conducted on the amount of kids today who think they were born the way they claim (gay or trans), but really who were molested and indoctrinated as children. But, nooo. They will never speak on the fact that most of those little boys especially were touched at a young age by an uncle, teacher, cousin, friend etc. They sure weren’t BORN that way.
@@za-za2748 stated by his personal friends, first hand, who were interviewed after his death on tv. I saw the interview. It was not aired immediately after his death but a few years after. Again, primary reference, personal friends. He also slept around after his diagnosis, without telling his partners he has AIDs, playing Russian Roulette with their lives. That's another thing I did not like about him. I contrast Hudson's behavior with that of Raymond Burr, who was bi (but I only know of one hetero hookup he had and it never really happened, he fell in love with a young Natalie Wood but he felt he was too old for her. But he adored her. Outside of Wood, I know he had a long term mate for decades up until his death. He never tricked anyone. Burr was a gentleman.
I love your podcast...I loved listening to your voice. It's extremely calming and almost melodic, instead of droning and so monotone.....Your research on the matter is also impressive....Again thank you, I truly enjoyed this segment.....Wish you much luck going forward.....
I have loved your reports for years because they are so deep , true and non judgemental. Apparently when soul families get together in the after-ife they laugh at the dramas they entered into and how they played out.
So of those women he has been with were said to be bisexual themselves as well like ppl keep missing the fact then women can be bi and or fluid as well too
Thank you for doing a video on Rock Hudson! You mentioned Carol Burnett. She would be awesome to do a video on. Oh and I suggest reading her book “One More Time” to any and everyone. And maybe Gene Wilder. I absolutely love Gene Wilder so much.
Linda Evans spoke about that kissing scene. He did not open his mouth. She thought there was something she was doing wrong. She later learned he was trying to protect her.
Rock Hudson deserved WAY BETTER in life. He was dealt a bad hand. Also, a big shoutout to Elizabeth Taylor who was a supporter till the end. Also, f**k the Reagan administration. Not that it was the only time an American president let people die on his watch.
Hold on. Don't be mad at Reagan. He was distracted trying to clean up the communities he'd dropped all those goodies in. I mean. What else would explain his "say nope to dope and ugh to drugs" campaigning wife being a pill head all those decades and him not noticing??? Give the man credit for at least trying (insert lol sarcasm here). 😮
@Nik_Key Lol 😆 Just shows how much Gen X loved and respected the Bedtime for Bonzo star. I literally remember Baby Boomers BULLYING us into voting for him in 1988. First thing we learned after his election was how to sit on a curb while the cops searched our cars. 2nd lesson was placing our hands on hot azz running police cars without burning 🔥 ourselves. Respectfully...
Pokhrajroy - I think,the late president Ronald Reagan,was a good president,he help the Hispanic community in the USA,and he was in power in the tough times,,when a lots of homosexuals and heroin addicts were dying of the aids virus.
People need to read his final days according to the era. Can you imagine being gay since the golden days of Hollywood and being told that you're not allowed to live your life to the fullest because your religion taught you you're going to hell? I've watched a lot of documentaries about him and he was as much as a victim of the system as his partners. He naturally had that deep voice voice which makes sense with his size. What happens is that he was coached to use his voice in a certain way to sound more "masculine" and hide any trace of his sexual orientation. To put it in simple words, he was trained to look and sound heterosexual because of what you explained on the video: all these magazines looking for "dirty little secrets" to expose the starlets and stars. His representative thought Rock had to erase any sign of campness or softness if he wanted to make it in Hollywood. This was explained in the last documentary about him "Rock Hudson: All That Heaven Allowed" (2023).
@@mckenziecolclough8547How can you say that, given what he was put through as a child? His birth father abandoned him and his step-father was abusive, then he gets to Hollywood only to have his agent sexually abuse him. And if that's not bad enough, he was raised in a religion that taught him that people like him are damned, so he carried a ton of shame and guilt around all his life. I don't condone hìs post diagnosis behaviour, but this was one seriously troubled man.
Oooo we talking about Rock Hudson now. 😊Saw him in Pillow Talk w/ Doris Day as a little girl and I’ve never forgotten that face omg. Such a beautiful man yet lived a tragic life especially while navigating Hollywood. Thank you for this! I’m always appreciative of the insights this channel produces. ♥️ Please put Gregory Peck on your list for future videos. 🙏🏾🥺
Sometime in the '80s my uncle had a brief conversation with a handsome, what he thought, was an elderly gentleman at one of those 'parties'. The conversation lasted about 20 minutes, and then it was over. My uncle's friends asked him what he thought of the guy he was speaking to. He said he was all right, and asked why. They said well don't you know that was Rock Hudson and boy he was really interested in you. The fact that he looked elderly to him makes this towards the end of his life. Fortunately for my uncle, once AIDS began he abstained for the rest of his life, avoiding a brush with AIDS. So, yes, he wasn't telling people he was sick and was still cruising for men.
Rock was a horn dog, that was well known in Hollywood. He would pull random gay men into his trailer and would have consensual sex to anyone attractive and willing.
My Mum told me that my Nana was devastated when the news about Rock Hudson being gay came out. It’s hard to choose a new celeb crush after having the same one for over 30+ years.
Congratulations on another amazing video 🎉 I grew up watching Rock Hudson and loving him ❤ Sounds like he enjoyed some crazy, over the top, Hollywood parties. The irony is it seems you could just be who you were, granted the drugs I think led to a lot of loose sex but no seemed to care much. Outwardly though, not unlike today, a person is still subject to judgment. One day I hope we can just accept people for who they really are. I enjoy your work especially the research, well done 🎉
@@woobiefuntime Not sure what you mean by, "looking back". IV drug addicts can die of many different causes. To make a conclusive diagnosis of AIDS for someone who died in 1978, you would need to have a useable blood or tissue sample. I don't think that an exhumed, enbalmed forty-six year old body would yield such, or that samples kept in a lab that long would be of any use, either, given that preservation methods have changed so much over that time period. Detecting the presence of a strain of HIV is not as easy as acquiring a DNA sample, for example. However, I could be wrong, and if anyone has updated info I'd love to hear it.
I'll never forget the days of being almost a preteen , going into the grocery stores reading the national enquire speak of his hiv till the day he pass, rip rock 🪨
I remember very well when Rock Hudson passed away. A few years prior to his death, I came out. I was 20 years old, met an older man where I attended college, and we started seeing each other. He took me to the first gay nightclubs I visited. It was all very exciting for me. I was aware of AIDS and the consequences of risky sexual behavior. When AIDS started escalating in numbers across the country, you saw it in the number of men who went to the clubs regularly. On a Wednesday evening there might be 300, 350 men out socializing, but as AIDS was being diagnosed in greater numbers, there were fewer men in the clubs on a nightly basis. I dated others after my first bf and I broke up. I even dated a few men who were HIV+. I recall watching the news the night Rock Hudson died. It was shocking the amount of press his death attracted. I attended the first AIDS fundraiser in my city’s area. There were perhaps 30 people there. I was one of the lucky ones from my generation, never testing positive. As the 80’s ended, I wasn’t going out as much as I once did. I was seeing a therapist every Thursday to figure out what I’d been through the last 7 years. On one of those Thursdays after an appointment, I wandered into Tiffany. I was looking around at all the pretty, shiny things wondering who could afford any of it. I felt a tap on my shoulder. I turned around to face a taller, handsome guy with a moustache smiling at me. He asked if “I found anything I liked”. I thought to myself “alright, who is screwing with me tonight?”. He introduced himself to me, we chatted for about 20 minutes. He asked if he could buy me a drink. I accepted, we spent all night in a booth talking. Four days later he called asking me to dinner “anywhere I’d like to go”. He told me he was going on vacation the following week to London. I wished him a safe trip. I thought, “I’ll never see him again”. At the end of that week I came home to find a post card in the mail from him. He told me he thought about me the whole flight to Heathrow and hoped we could see each other again. We saw each other the night after he came back. We started dating. He told me I made him smile whenever I was around. After 3 years, we moved into a tiny house together. My folks really liked him and he became a part of most my family holidays. The first year he got more Christmas presents from my parents than me, I was a little annoyed. When we were approaching our 10th anniversary, my parents told us one night at dinner that they wanted to do something special for us. They took us on a cruise ending in a few nights in Miami. It was shocking considering my parents kicked me out when they found out about me. A few years later, he was offered a better job, 800 miles away. I knew he had to take it, and my folks knew I had to go with him. There were lots of tears, my folks and his. But we bought a new car and drove off into our future. He always promised that we’d only be gone 5 years. I knew he was fibbing. After all our parents were gone he told me renting our house was over, we had to buy a house. “Pick out something pretty, I want you to be happy”. After months of looking, we pulled up to a New England style 3 bedroom. Before we walked in we looked at each other, we knew this was our new home. A few months later we drove to a neighboring state where we could marry. No big party, it didn’t seem right after 25 years. 2 years went by, I hadn’t been feeling well. Nobody could figure it out. A few months later I had exploratory surgery. I woke up in recovery realizing he was holding my hand and his eyes were watery. “It’s cancer”. Oh boy. I started treatment immediately. It took almost a year to be told I was cancer free. I was so grateful for his care while I was sick, I took some of my inheritance money and surprised him with the car he had been wanting. 2 years of testing resulted in another cancer diagnosis. It wasn’t as bad and required 8 rounds of radiation. We were finally able to catch our breath. Last year he rented a little cabin for our anniversary. We packed up our station wagon, our dog was in the back seat and we drove 3 hours to celebrate 33 years together. I still can’t believe how my life turned out. I know I’m lucky. I wish Rock Hudson had been able to live his life openly and happy. I always thought he was cute when I was younger.
😯 Ok so I NEED a limited series about his life or a fictional series that correlates with his life because his story was very interesting and it was a lot and I was in awe! I bet his condition did cause a major shift in Hollywood! I mean my thing is Hollywood would have these wild parties with no protection being used eventually someone would catch some kind of STD! I'm guessing nobody was not expecting it! 🤷🏽♂️ with the lack of education of HIV/AIDS I can imagine people were losing their ish in Hollywood! Then he happened to die during the AIDs epidemic as well too…sheesh! Thank you for this! 🙌🏽
I am glad you covered this there are individuals with HIV-AIDS that victimize others this is a form of abuse and biological warfare. I am not going to watch this one I am sure it’s going to trigger me. I used to be a co editor of a medical journal and made sure to have the other writers cover stories like this. I love the work that you do I wish you the best with your channel.
6:01 I’m spilling my own tea. Yes I had my voice lowered a few years ago in Turkey. I didn’t like my voice because it didn’t fit my body. I’m 6’3 and muscled but my voice was a bit feminine. Now it’s deep, masculine and sultry and I get so many compliments about my nice voice. It was a very quick procedure, I wasn’t put to sleep. They cut a small slit in my throat to reveal my voicebox, and then he repositioned something and told me to speak. Every time he did that I was told to speak so we could find the perfect tone for me. After the stitches the voicebox in a way that makes the tone permanent. He explained it like tuning a guitar. He patched me up and I got a IV drip, painkillers and antibiotics and stayed in the hospital for 4/5 hours. Then I went back to my hotel. The first two months my voice was very deep, but now it has softened up and I love it like this. They normally do this for transgenders to give them a female voice.. but alot of men wanted it to get a deeper voice so they started doing both.
Also a friend who lived in Europe many years ago told me that Hudson spent a lot of time in the French Riviera where many jokingly referred to him as “Rockette” & it wasn’t in a mean way, but rather humorous that he was a heartthrob in America. Finally think about the description of Rock as being “big” & ask “then why didn’t his alleged lover contract HIV?” Maybe he just cashed in on the situation at a time when ppl wouldn’t cross exam him too much on their details.
I love your videos and I share them, I wanna encourage you to keep going. When I sent the Brooke Shields video to my niece, she binged your whole channel 😂, wish I had that type of time lol
The story I heard was an agent told him when he caught cold to go outside in the cold and yell till he blew his voice out and permanently lowered it. I wouldn't be surprised about surgery either. We're talking about Hollywood here.🌈
Those fbi files are skeptical not saying it’s false but it’s opinion based and look how they did ppl back in the day. J Edgar Hoover was a closet gay but black mailed stars & political figures for the same. Love ur videos❤
The death of Rock caused Reagan to cry. Reagan admitted to ignoring aides even accepted the term aides-gate. From then on Reagan vowed to help fight aides
LOL they definitely didn't say that about singer Tom Jones word was he was a small fish in the sea of love. Rock was so handsome it's still hard to believe all the stories about him. Thanks, for another great production.
My mom loved him🤩 Growing up in the 80s, I remember the fear-mongering stories even though I was very young. You couldn't even pick up a candy wrapper on the road and people would say you'll get AIDS😢 I don't really think he went around spreading HIV like the video title suggests. It seems like he unknowingly infected people and was in deep denial about his status. It was a scary time (think how people initially responded to Covid-19) and it must have been quite tormenting for him as one of the earliest high profile people to come out as HIV+. Even Freddie Mercury was in the same boat😢
Thank you. This was a sad an interesting biography of Playboy Hudson. So many women and men admired him who would of known such a talented man such as Hudson will die from HIV.
The lifelong partner of Hudson would have received nothing for devoting his life to him. Gay marriage was only made legal recently. I imagine Hudson would have been ok with the lawsuit.
Love your videos! They're so informative! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 FYI, the guy whose name you didn't say in full is Harvey Weinstein. Have you done a video on him yet? I think that would be quite interesting 🤔
22:59 No disrespect to Tupac but nearly 20 yrs after. Janet Jackson used the no kissing policy based off the (H)ouse (I) in (V) Virginia theory in Hollywood. Love your commentary and history is LIFE 🤗
We always knew he was gay...well, at least that's what my mom always said. Mom was an old movie buff. She knew just about every star from the 30s -70s. She would tell us wayyyy back (and i mean wayyy back) that Hudson (as well as Robert Reed) were gay. When Reed passed everyone at my job, he was shocked to learn he was gay. I was the only one on the job who was not shocked.
I wish we still had had that mystery about us. People had way more genuine fun back then. People who can’t believe this would happen are living in a shell of ignorance. He was a good looking man.
If the marriage was for both of them of fake then why did she secretly record him that doesn’t make sense. Unless she was trying to get money out of him. 15:45
Firstly I love all your videos ❤ They are so well researched! I would love to see a video on Burt Lancaster, I recently read his biography, and he is still a complete mystery to me. He could be so kind and yet so cruel. A true Jekyll & Hyde
@KarineAlourde You enjoy vintage Hollywood ? My aunt is 'Boots Mallory'. She was married to William Cagney , the brother of James Cagney. I consider my family a great conversation starter.
I think you should change the title up a bit. Maybe keep the first part and change up the last to “who caught hiv” Totling things like this is a defamation suit waiting to happen. Take advice from someone who graduated from An accredited journalism school. I don’t want you to experience a lawsuit
I saw something that showed his Manager used him as the Hollywood sax doll. He passed Rock around Hollywood to prove how much control he had. Using peoples dreams against them, while people would do anything for their dreams. Crazy
You’re right that the generation of the golden age of Hollywood (1913-1962) acted differently. Some of it was due to the fact a high school education was often more some colleges today w/regards to reading, proper writing & speech, so expression was more eloquent & the US had just come out of the Victorian Age (in approx 1912) & censorship of movies, then TV & radio for “decency standards” had studios “cancelling” actors for perceived immoral behavior. It’s wild to think about it. But the young adults of the early 1920s were very open in talking about sex. Every generation has lived, just not every generation talked about it in classless ways like they sometimes do today.
I love you ❤ karrine your channel and content be on fire 🔥 these stories be off the hook honeyyyyy i know Rock Hudson story will be very interesting he definitely was very handsome i must say❤ may God forever rest his soul i remember when he passed away 😢
I'm 62. I was in graduate school when Rock Hudson passed away. I remember my mother and many older people at that time being shocked to discover that Rock Hudson was gay. But back in the golden age of Hollywood, those studios paid off the gossip columnist to not report details of stars' lives which would harm their careers. The gossips columnists usually reported on things that would help these actors and actresses. If they did report something controversial, they often did not include the names of the stars, but just hint at their identity. Homosexuality was considered completely off-limits to report on back in those days. Gossip columnists might get wind of an extra-marital affair or a divorce or firing, etc. But homosexuality and having children without wedlock were both taboo. If those gossip columnists reported something like that, that would be the end of their career too. Perhaps have even lethal consequences for them.
So Rock Hudson was also a Me Too victim, and he was not fully gay but bi-sexual with a preference of being with men. Imagine if PrEP and PEP was established and readily available in the 1970s.
These stories make u think, if u didn't make it in this business, it was a blessing. And u dodged a bullet. Literally.
You're damn right...!
You ain't lying damn 😫😫😫
Correct even if you made it to success you can leave before taking off into stardom 😊
Exactly. There are still mysterious circumstances around the deaths of stars like George Reeves, Bob Crane, Dorothy Kilgallen, and Marilyn Monroe.
Thank you. That's me right now. Greatful I didn't make it.
Betty White said the studios used to keep her as a date for him because they knew he was gay. She said she didn’t mind because he was a good friend of hers.
That is true!
@@KarineAlourdeyou need to get some more tea on all of the undercover gay stars of the yesteryear sis
@@JuLayLeeBeeyeah we are going to get into it
@@KarineAlourdeyour channel is very nice, glad I found it. It’s interesting to see that the industry has always been dark to pretty much everyone who entered, no matter what you look like.
Studios were always " matching" stars up for the gossips columns and hiding what needed to be hidden.
The irony is that most of Hollywood was like him and living a double life. And it is still that way.
With all due respect, it's even far, far worse now 🕳️👀🤨‼️THIS I state with regret 💌. Sincerely,
Reagan
Yes, Leo too
Hollywood is not doing anything regular folks aren't doing. You remember that.
Yup. Keanu Reeves is one of them.
In an attempt to get into Hollywood print modeling and show business in 79-80 (I was approached), my first contact was with a photographer (the approacher) that kicked off with SA! I was 20 and naive, but I gave it a year and felt him grooming me for something other than the business alone! By the end of that year I saw another level headed my way and decided I wanted out of there! I was able to collect a beautiful portfolio and shortly moved away from California altogether! It just wasn’t something I could endure psychologically! And thank goodness!
Sheesh. I exhaled when you did NOT end that with a horror story. Thx for sharing that!
I'm sorry my state has yet to make that place its own state. They need their own legal system and everything. Ijs ❤ Holly, WD (city Holy... state WEIRD AF)
I am so glad this story ended well 😭😭 I was worried
@@KarineAlourde oh it ended well! But my story was previously sugar coated!! The last straw was the biggest red flag to abandon ship!
And the year I spent with the photographer while he was bartering with me! We didn’t have sx and I didn’t do anything to him, just him to me, I guess the only reason I let it go that far was because I was already used to being molested!
And it was always a given that if you wanted to be a part of Hollyweird, you knew there was naturally that preverbal casting couch theme! Weird how back then the threshold was so high to what you might do! But believe me I am thankful that I had the line in the sand! I remember having that dark feeling when entering LA!! I lived in San Gabriel Valley. Couldn’t put my finger on it back then!! But in and out of that year I also had a few great memories of modeling in Santa Monica and meeting many celebrities at a skate benefit! And I had a private teacher that was teaching me how to read lines at her home in Hollywood! She was a character actress named Lureen Tuttle!! Sweet lady! Look her up!
Oh and the photographer worked for Globe! A rag sheet like the National Enquirer! Turns out he was paparazzi!! I came out unscathed unlike many that didn’t! I appreciate that I had enough sense to know when said photographer set up an appointment to meet in a motel with 3-4 Asian guys and take off my top, that was the defining moment!! I’m surprised I’m alive to tell about it!! So when you’re telling stories of so many actors and actresses, it brings back my own memories and I never even made it to fame! I just experienced the tip of the iceberg!
And like I said, I have a beautiful album full of pictures when I was 19-20 to give to look back on and give to my children!
@@SpiceyKy I can only imagine how much weirder it got since I left in 80! When I go back to visit, it scares the crap out of me once I hit LA/Santa Monica!! It feels like Satans Den!!
@@coryd2668 I live in the Inland Empire for a reason! Ijs ❤
Rock was soooooo gorgeous! I tell you, Hollyweird is a cruel place! They want to change things on you or things about yourself is ridiculous! Talent isn't enough! I loved Pillow Talk and Magnificent Obsession of Rocks movies! I was about 14 when he had passed away! He was wasting away! I will always respect him as a great actor! He was a legend! Thanks for this on Rock!❤❤❤❤❤💋💋💋💋😊😊😊
I don't know that it was Hollyweird's fault that these people kept all these secrets. 🤔 Simple pride maybe?
Cary Grant, sorry
It has nothing to do with Hollywood it’s about homosexuality..
@@Shegosushimi Has EVERYTHING to do with Hollywood. "They" didn't allow heart throbs to come out as gay. Think about your comment for a second.
I love that you dive into a person's career beginnings, but seeing what a seedy, smarmy, depraved pit Hollywood is, I feel like I need a shower afterwards.
Gotta say Rock Hudson is GORGEOUS.
He was very easy on the eye. And unfortunately Hollywood is a seedy place. It’s all so dark.
Rock Hudson was one of the MOST handsome men from the Golden Age. There were so MANY handsome and elegant men during that time. Harry Belafonte, Marlon Brando, Sidney Poitier, Cary Grant, etc. etc. etc. He was a good actor too. I liked him in Magnificent Obsession with Jane Wyman. May Rock Hudson rest in peace. He was the first famous AIDS casualty I knew of and I was only 4. So sad. 😔🙏🏾❤️🕊️
I remember when his diagnosis came out. Living in Atlanta at the time and being in the restaurant business, I saw a lot of young men going quickly. So awful.
HIV in Atlanta in the mid 1980s?
@@Mr.Majestic77 Yes. I worked with one guy who became so ill, so quickly, that he was going to a Mayo (I believe) hospital for experimental drug tests. He knew he was dying, so was willing to try anything.
ATL WAS THE PLACE OF DL NOW ITS EVERYWHERE YOU GO😳 YOU GOTS TA BE CAREFUL 🙏🏽
Yes, I was a waitress at a gay bar when I was 18 and within 10 years I had attended 40 funerals of good friends I had made there.
@@barbararenton8009 😔
The stuff coming out about this entertainment industry including music downright frightening. The whole industry needs to be thrown away!!!!! Just pure debauchery and evil!!!!’
Nat King Cole smoked cigarettes to lower his voice and give it the depth that made him a successful vocal artist. He was a heavy smoker for this reason. Many relatives and friends encouraged him to stop smoking, but he kept saying that he would not have the recording career and TV show, etc. if he did not smoke. He said his voice would change and his singing career would end. So, he continued to smoke heavily. Eventually, he was diagnosed with lung cancer and passed away at age 45 from the illness. PS Boy George smoked to attain a certain quality of voice. Since he stopped smoking sometime around 2011, his voice changed from what he described as a "jazzy" quality to a more "soulful" quality.
It was throat cancer.
@@eugeniasyro5774 It was lung cancer. He had his entire left lung removed due to lung cancer and died approximately 2 months later. Possibly the lung cancer metastasized to his throat. But the official cause of death is listed as lung cancer.
Nat had one of the greatest voices I think of all time on a man. So absolutely incredible and beautiful.
He was a beautiful man.
Very beautiful!
Agree.
But ugly in the inside 😅
My aunt told me about him when I was growing up. She thought he was just so good-looking.
He was gorgeous looking.
If rock hudson was alive today,he will be 99 years old.
Thank God’s he’s not he’s at rest .
Bottom line, everyone dies. Cherish every moment, make the best out of it and honor God.
@@Boston_CremePie I can't cherish my life,until the voices that mentally torment me everyday,go away,till,depression,anger,is not going away with pills,I need for God to restore my mental health,my physical health,and bless me financially with some big heavenly income,that way I don't have to struggle the way I been struggling.i don't have a car,I don't know,how to drive,I rely on my mother to take me to the doctor's appoiments.well,the difference between me and many people out there,is,I write the truth,I don't write lies,slander.
Would be
He would be better than most of the actors today.
I totally remember when the story of Rock Hudson’s diagnosis of AIDS broke. It was such a shocking revelation and huge global story. To that point in time, Rock was beloved by the public. His personal life was not widely known until then. Some people were disgusted to learn he was a gay man and they turned away from him. (Mostly led by evangelical leaders.) a majority of people had empathy and for the first time looked at the AIDS crisis with new understanding. Elizabeth Taylor in his honor really stepped up for the AIDS cause and for the gay community generally. She played a huge role in changing the public opinion of AIDS. Thanks for sharing this! ✌🏼
RIP Rock.
A I d s is manmade and there's a pattent on it.
I'm pleased he found peace spiritually.
He and Doris Day had the best chemistry. Pillow talk is one of my favorite movies. The documentary of his life on HBO was awesome. You should do one on the speculated lavender marriages of Hollywood.
I love their enduring friendship to the end. May Doris Day and Rock Hudson continue to be friends in the afterlife. ❤
My favorite one was 'Lover Come Back' He was a dynamic actor
Great movies!
He was gay Doris Day is out of the picture and he was spreading a VINE REAL DISEASE WHATS WRONG WOTH YOU.
Hi what's a lavender marriage?
It's crazy insane how handsome he and Brando were as young men.
And how gay they were.
Throw in Monty Clift and Harry Belafonte.
He was good looking
@@Shegosushimi yup!
@@Shegosushimi brando was bisexual and talk about it in the 70' s
He told his people not to tell his lover he had aids. After he died, his lover sued and got a huge chunk of his estate.
Yes I remember seeing his lover on a talkshow, talking about the betrayal he felt.
I can't feel sorry for people who do that to others smh
It was a totally different time, and it was horrible for people who were LGBTQ+. They had to stay in the closet to have a Hollywood career. I’m convinced that Rock was bi or pan instead of strictly gay.
This is 100% true that if a major A-lister was about to be exposed, the publicity machine would throw a B or C list celebrity under the bus so the A-lister was left alone. I think that if it wasn’t for social media, this would still be going on today.
Marc Christian (Rock Hudson’s last lover) deserves a lot of credit for being brave enough to sue the estate because Rock failed to reveal his AIDS diagnosis to his lover, and he didn’t find out about it until Rock was dying. Luckily, Marc never got HIV.
No he was gay gay
Wow. Happy he never got the virus
It’s not cruel to dislike his lifestyle. The man literally caught HiV, and spread it to others. Due to his lifestyle. He was a victim of his pleasure
Why wasn't he ever in a serious relationship with a woman tho?
Your convinced because you want to believe it. Just let him rest in peace and stop trying to characterize someone you never knew!!
i was a kid when Rock Hudson died and it was a SHOCK and a SCANDAL! i didn't even know who he was but learned quickly after.
Who's been with Karine from the start when she was only doing the actresses and started doing the males stars after cause one it would be more interesting in second they we're entangled so much with the females stars baby girl had to know the stories 😂❤
Again nice video Karine ❤
lol exactly. The guys were getting too interesting to not include their stories! Thank you for being a day 1 😂❤
@@KarineAlourde all love thank you ❤
@@KarineAlourdecan you do a video on Karrien( super head) steffens
Love Karine
Wilson was like a Hollywood pimp.
He was dirty and paid dearly for it. His end was a fall from grace, even Hollywood treated him like trash at the very end while he was in Hospice. God doesn’t sleep.
He should have been exposed and sued.
@@Boston_CremePiejust deserts
Agree with your grandparents comment. The funny thing is they were conservative but had multiple relationship, lots of children and use expletives constantly.
Thank you so much for airing this
From someone who is gay I really
Appreciated hearing about rock Hudson I had tested negative 3 times
For HIAV and I was on symphony for Rock Hudson thank you for telling his
Story.
> Read an old bio on Roy/Rock, he said that his first gay experience occurred during his time in the Navy, it stated that "He really enjoyed it."
Wow‼️
I actually assumed that was the case. Thank you for sharing.
Yeah that was pretty normal, if you watch old biographical movies or documentaries the military with all the young men together sort of accepted it and in one they describe how in england they'd go cruising in the park and there'd be guys from the navy and they went with you in pairs, you'd pick the one you wanted and pay them. And those guys wouldn't technically be thought of as gay. Being together made it safer for them.
I guess if that's the only way you could get some sexual contact and it wasn't never forced or traumatic maybe they were just more flexible about it.
Men in the Bavy are known to be pretty boys AND sus, My late uncle was in the navy. He was very handsome and very GAY.
Sick.
Rock was the definition of handsome. Loved him in glasses.🤓
I agree❤️❤️❤️
He looked like an older Cary Grant, who also wore glasses. They both were handsome men.
He and Doris Day were movie royalty with amazing chemistry.
The FBI clearly had nothing better to do!!!!
Sure they are!
Oh well 😂
J. Edgar Hoover had to keep everyone intimidated to protect his own mountain of secrets from spilling out.
They enjoyed watching
Well done ❤ You raised a lot of great points about our grandparents acting so proper and meanwhile… back at the ranch…😂 and that Hollywood was way more interesting then than today’s weirdos
I had read about his repentance, and I appreciate that you've made this statement...may God bless you.
Karine, I had to knock on wood because we said it at the same time... I didn't know you could have surgery to lower your voice either! Thanks for the video bc I learned more about RH than I previously knew 😊
After his death, many of his gay crowd were interviewed saying fond things about him. Several of them mentioned Rocks wild sex parties by his pool where, according to them, he liked to pull young teens in (delivery guys, etc) to try and lure them into the life: "Yes, " they recalled with amusement, "Rock liked them young.".
Rock and his friends, for that reason, disgusted and still disgust me. Even then, if a straight person had said this, he would be correctly ripped apart for it. But gay or trans or whatever, people are either so afraid or so brainwashed, they say nothing.
Leave kids alone.
😳 🤦🏾♀️ Disgusting!!
Ikr😢
Where was this ever stated I agree but is this even true
This is my main issue with these people. They NEVER leave kids alone. I’d really like a study to be conducted on the amount of kids today who think they were born the way they claim (gay or trans), but really who were molested and indoctrinated as children. But, nooo. They will never speak on the fact that most of those little boys especially were touched at a young age by an uncle, teacher, cousin, friend etc. They sure weren’t BORN that way.
@@za-za2748 stated by his personal friends, first hand, who were interviewed after his death on tv. I saw the interview. It was not aired immediately after his death but a few years after. Again, primary reference, personal friends.
He also slept around after his diagnosis, without telling his partners he has AIDs, playing Russian Roulette with their lives. That's another thing I did not like about him.
I contrast Hudson's behavior with that of Raymond Burr, who was bi (but I only know of one hetero hookup he had and it never really happened, he fell in love with a young Natalie Wood but he felt he was too old for her. But he adored her. Outside of Wood, I know he had a long term mate for decades up until his death. He never tricked anyone. Burr was a gentleman.
I love your podcast...I loved listening to your voice. It's extremely calming and almost melodic, instead of droning and so monotone.....Your research on the matter is also impressive....Again thank you, I truly enjoyed this segment.....Wish you much luck going forward.....
I have loved your reports for years because they are so deep , true and non judgemental. Apparently when soul families get together in the after-ife they laugh at the dramas they entered into and how they played out.
Rock Hudson was so handsome!!!! Also just like you, I get removing tonsils but, I didn't know you could do surgery on your voice!
I absolutely love your content ❤
I was today years old when I realized he isn’t Kate Hudson’s dad.
The fact that he was intimate with women while gay disturbing !!!
So of those women he has been with were said to be bisexual themselves as well like ppl keep missing the fact then women can be bi and or fluid as well too
I don't think he had an affair with Taylor
Yes!!!
The fact that he was intimate with * men * while he knew he was * sick * is disturbing!
@@midnightchannel111No different than today's men who are gay! 😔
Thank you for doing a video on Rock Hudson! You mentioned Carol Burnett. She would be awesome to do a video on. Oh and I suggest reading her book “One More Time” to any and everyone. And maybe Gene Wilder. I absolutely love Gene Wilder so much.
Linda Evans spoke about that kissing scene. He did not open his mouth. She thought there was something she was doing wrong. She later learned he was trying to protect her.
Rock Hudson deserved WAY BETTER in life. He was dealt a bad hand. Also, a big shoutout to Elizabeth Taylor who was a supporter till the end. Also, f**k the Reagan administration. Not that it was the only time an American president let people die on his watch.
Hold on. Don't be mad at Reagan. He was distracted trying to clean up the communities he'd dropped all those goodies in. I mean. What else would explain his "say nope to dope and ugh to drugs" campaigning wife being a pill head all those decades and him not noticing??? Give the man credit for at least trying (insert lol sarcasm here). 😮
IMO, JFK was the last president who tried to change the system... but we see how that turned out.
@@SpiceyKyGirl I almost spit my wine out reading this 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Nik_Key Lol 😆 Just shows how much Gen X loved and respected the Bedtime for Bonzo star. I literally remember Baby Boomers BULLYING us into voting for him in 1988.
First thing we learned after his election was how to sit on a curb while the cops searched our cars. 2nd lesson was placing our hands on hot azz running police cars without burning 🔥 ourselves. Respectfully...
Pokhrajroy - I think,the late president Ronald Reagan,was a good president,he help the Hispanic community in the USA,and he was in power in the tough times,,when a lots of homosexuals and heroin addicts were dying of the aids virus.
People need to read his final days according to the era. Can you imagine being gay since the golden days of Hollywood and being told that you're not allowed to live your life to the fullest because your religion taught you you're going to hell?
I've watched a lot of documentaries about him and he was as much as a victim of the system as his partners. He naturally had that deep voice voice which makes sense with his size. What happens is that he was coached to use his voice in a certain way to sound more "masculine" and hide any trace of his sexual orientation. To put it in simple words, he was trained to look and sound heterosexual because of what you explained on the video: all these magazines looking for "dirty little secrets" to expose the starlets and stars. His representative thought Rock had to erase any sign of campness or softness if he wanted to make it in Hollywood. This was explained in the last documentary about him "Rock Hudson: All That Heaven Allowed" (2023).
He was not a victim at all.
@@mckenziecolclough8547How can you say that, given what he was put through as a child? His birth father abandoned him and his step-father was abusive, then he gets to Hollywood only to have his agent sexually abuse him. And if that's not bad enough, he was raised in a religion that taught him that people like him are damned, so he carried a ton of shame and guilt around all his life. I don't condone hìs post diagnosis behaviour, but this was one seriously troubled man.
He didn’t have an open mouth kiss with Linda Evans on Dynasty…Linda stated that his lips were very much closed.
When he died of Aids, she was so upset knowing how close she came to someone who had Aids. Said she would never kiss again on screen.
@@tinaapicelli8565Absolute nonsense. She said the opposite. You disgusting liar.
Oooo we talking about Rock Hudson now. 😊Saw him in Pillow Talk w/ Doris Day as a little girl and I’ve never forgotten that face omg. Such a beautiful man yet lived a tragic life especially while navigating Hollywood. Thank you for this! I’m always appreciative of the insights this channel produces. ♥️ Please put Gregory Peck on your list for future videos. 🙏🏾🥺
Rock Hudson would have made a great Superman.
Right?
He would have!
With a D on his chest
His package wouldn’t fit with men - I’m DEAD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I love your videos!! ❤
Sometime in the '80s my uncle had a brief conversation with a handsome, what he thought, was an elderly gentleman at one of those 'parties'. The conversation lasted about 20 minutes, and then it was over. My uncle's friends asked him what he thought of the guy he was speaking to. He said he was all right, and asked why. They said well don't you know that was Rock Hudson and boy he was really interested in you. The fact that he looked elderly to him makes this towards the end of his life. Fortunately for my uncle, once AIDS began he abstained for the rest of his life, avoiding a brush with AIDS. So, yes, he wasn't telling people he was sick and was still cruising for men.
He was in his 50s in the 80s and 59 when he admitted to having AIDS.
And that's who the man really was. Not a good person.
Rock was a horn dog, that was well known in Hollywood. He would pull random gay men into his trailer and would have consensual sex to anyone attractive and willing.
Rock Hudson died in 1985, so it must have been in the 1980s.
@@bernardrubin5816 It’s probably an embellished story.
I loved Rock Hudson with Doris Day in their movies together. He was also fantastic acting along with Paula Prentiss.
"Man's Favorite Sport?" was the movie with Paula Prentiss. Fun movie!
@@AngelaGoodwin-fh6fw Yes, great movie!
My Mum told me that my Nana was devastated when the news about Rock Hudson being gay came out.
It’s hard to choose a new celeb crush after having the same one for over 30+ years.
Hilarious
Sure hope she didn't take up hero-worshipping Liberace!
Congratulations on another amazing video 🎉 I grew up watching Rock Hudson and loving him ❤ Sounds like he enjoyed some crazy, over the top, Hollywood parties. The irony is it seems you could just be who you were, granted the drugs I think led to a lot of loose sex but no seemed to care much. Outwardly though, not unlike today, a person is still subject to judgment. One day I hope we can just accept people for who they really are. I enjoy your work especially the research, well done 🎉
During the mid-1970's my neighbor's mom was a heroin addict. She visited San Francisco and shared dirty needles. She died of HIV/Aids in 1978!?
How was the diagnosis made? HIV wasn't isolated and identified in a lab until May, 1983. Testing for it didn't begin until 1985.
@@Grimenoughtomaketherobotcry it probably was some one looking back
@@woobiefuntime Not sure what you mean by, "looking back". IV drug addicts can die of many different causes. To make a conclusive diagnosis of AIDS for someone who died in 1978, you would need to have a useable blood or tissue sample. I don't think that an exhumed, enbalmed forty-six year old body would yield such, or that samples kept in a lab that long would be of any use, either, given that preservation methods have changed so much over that time period. Detecting the presence of a strain of HIV is not as easy as acquiring a DNA sample, for example. However, I could be wrong, and if anyone has updated info I'd love to hear it.
I didn’t know surgery could lower the voice either, Karine!
I'll never forget the days of being almost a preteen , going into the grocery stores reading the national enquire speak of his hiv till the day he pass, rip rock 🪨
I remember very well when Rock Hudson passed away. A few years prior to his death, I came out. I was 20 years old, met an older man where I attended college, and we started seeing each other. He took me to the first gay nightclubs I visited. It was all very exciting for me. I was aware of AIDS and the consequences of risky sexual behavior. When AIDS started escalating in numbers across the country, you saw it in the number of men who went to the clubs regularly. On a Wednesday evening there might be 300, 350 men out socializing, but as AIDS was being diagnosed in greater numbers, there were fewer men in the clubs on a nightly basis.
I dated others after my first bf and I broke up. I even dated a few men who were HIV+. I recall watching the news the night Rock Hudson died. It was shocking the amount of press his death attracted. I attended the first AIDS fundraiser in my city’s area. There were perhaps 30 people there. I was one of the lucky ones from my generation, never testing positive. As the 80’s ended, I wasn’t going out as much as I once did. I was seeing a therapist every Thursday to figure out what I’d been through the last 7 years. On one of those Thursdays after an appointment, I wandered into Tiffany. I was looking around at all the pretty, shiny things wondering who could afford any of it. I felt a tap on my shoulder.
I turned around to face a taller, handsome guy with a moustache smiling at me. He asked if “I found anything I liked”. I thought to myself “alright, who is screwing with me tonight?”. He introduced himself to me, we chatted for about 20 minutes. He asked if he could buy me a drink. I accepted, we spent all night in a booth talking. Four days later he called asking me to dinner “anywhere I’d like to go”. He told me he was going on vacation the following week to London. I wished him a safe trip. I thought, “I’ll never see him again”. At the end of that week I came home to find a post card in the mail from him. He told me he thought about me the whole flight to Heathrow and hoped we could see each other again.
We saw each other the night after he came back. We started dating. He told me I made him smile whenever I was around. After 3 years, we moved into a tiny house together. My folks really liked him and he became a part of most my family holidays. The first year he got more Christmas presents from my parents than me, I was a little annoyed. When we were approaching our 10th anniversary, my parents told us one night at dinner that they wanted to do something special for us. They took us on a cruise ending in a few nights in Miami. It was shocking considering my parents kicked me out when they found out about me.
A few years later, he was offered a better job, 800 miles away. I knew he had to take it, and my folks knew I had to go with him. There were lots of tears, my folks and his. But we bought a new car and drove off into our future. He always promised that we’d only be gone 5 years. I knew he was fibbing. After all our parents were gone he told me renting our house was over, we had to buy a house. “Pick out something pretty, I want you to be happy”.
After months of looking, we pulled up to a New England style 3 bedroom. Before we walked in we looked at each other, we knew this was our new home. A few months later we drove to a neighboring state where we could marry. No big party, it didn’t seem right after 25 years. 2 years went by, I hadn’t been feeling well. Nobody could figure it out. A few months later I had exploratory surgery. I woke up in recovery realizing he was holding my hand and his eyes were watery. “It’s cancer”. Oh boy. I started treatment immediately. It took almost a year to be told I was cancer free. I was so grateful for his care while I was sick, I took some of my inheritance money and surprised him with the car he had been wanting.
2 years of testing resulted in another cancer diagnosis. It wasn’t as bad and required 8 rounds of radiation. We were finally able to catch our breath. Last year he rented a little cabin for our anniversary. We packed up our station wagon, our dog was in the back seat and we drove 3 hours to celebrate 33 years together. I still can’t believe how my life turned out. I know I’m lucky. I wish Rock Hudson had been able to live his life openly and happy. I always thought he was cute when I was younger.
Great video. Rock Hudson was just a person trying to live his life.
I have learned soo much about entertainment business because of you/your channel !!!🌹🥰🌹🙏
😯 Ok so I NEED a limited series about his life or a fictional series that correlates with his life because his story was very interesting and it was a lot and I was in awe! I bet his condition did cause a major shift in Hollywood! I mean my thing is Hollywood would have these wild parties with no protection being used eventually someone would catch some kind of STD! I'm guessing nobody was not expecting it! 🤷🏽♂️ with the lack of education of HIV/AIDS I can imagine people were losing their ish in Hollywood! Then he happened to die during the AIDs epidemic as well too…sheesh! Thank you for this! 🙌🏽
I am glad you covered this there are individuals with HIV-AIDS that victimize others this is a form of abuse and biological warfare. I am not going to watch this one I am sure it’s going to trigger me. I used to be a co editor of a medical journal and made sure to have the other writers cover stories like this. I love the work that you do I wish you the best with your channel.
6:01 I’m spilling my own tea. Yes I had my voice lowered a few years ago in Turkey. I didn’t like my voice because it didn’t fit my body. I’m 6’3 and muscled but my voice was a bit feminine. Now it’s deep, masculine and sultry and I get so many compliments about my nice voice.
It was a very quick procedure, I wasn’t put to sleep. They cut a small slit in my throat to reveal my voicebox, and then he repositioned something and told me to speak. Every time he did that I was told to speak so we could find the perfect tone for me. After the stitches the voicebox in a way that makes the tone permanent. He explained it like tuning a guitar. He patched me up and I got a IV drip, painkillers and antibiotics and stayed in the hospital for 4/5 hours. Then I went back to my hotel.
The first two months my voice was very deep, but now it has softened up and I love it like this. They normally do this for transgenders to give them a female voice.. but alot of men wanted it to get a deeper voice so they started doing both.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Wow thank you for sharing! Are you able to sing?
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Also a friend who lived in Europe many years ago told me that Hudson spent a lot of time in the French Riviera where many jokingly referred to him as “Rockette” & it wasn’t in a mean way, but rather humorous that he was a heartthrob in America. Finally think about the description of Rock as being “big” & ask “then why didn’t his alleged lover contract HIV?” Maybe he just cashed in on the situation at a time when ppl wouldn’t cross exam him too much on their details.
I love your videos and I share them, I wanna encourage you to keep going. When I sent the Brooke Shields video to my niece, she binged your whole channel 😂, wish I had that type of time lol
The story I heard was an agent told him when he caught cold to go outside in the cold and yell till he blew his voice out and permanently lowered it.
I wouldn't be surprised about surgery either. We're talking about Hollywood here.🌈
Ballerina footage would SO be available today in the post cell phone camera era. I’m so thankful I graduated high school waaaay before cell phones.
Life repeats itself. Social media just exposed more now. Mercy!
" You all were young once!" Too funny!! He was a gorgeous man, attractive to both men and women.
Those fbi files are skeptical not saying it’s false but it’s opinion based and look how they did ppl back in the day. J Edgar Hoover was a closet gay but black mailed stars & political figures for the same.
Love ur videos❤
The death of Rock caused Reagan to cry. Reagan admitted to ignoring aides even accepted the term aides-gate. From then on Reagan vowed to help fight aides
LOL they definitely didn't say that about singer Tom Jones word was he was a small fish in the sea of love. Rock was so handsome it's still hard to believe all the stories about him. Thanks, for another great production.
My mom loved him🤩 Growing up in the 80s, I remember the fear-mongering stories even though I was very young. You couldn't even pick up a candy wrapper on the road and people would say you'll get AIDS😢 I don't really think he went around spreading HIV like the video title suggests. It seems like he unknowingly infected people and was in deep denial about his status. It was a scary time (think how people initially responded to Covid-19) and it must have been quite tormenting for him as one of the earliest high profile people to come out as HIV+. Even Freddie Mercury was in the same boat😢
Girl your in denial just like he was he DID spread it.
I believe he did infect people on purpose.
Thank you. This was a sad an interesting biography of Playboy Hudson. So many women and men admired him who would of known such a talented man such as Hudson will die from HIV.
Excellent commentary....Can you share what 🎤 microphone or what you record with since your videos are voice overs?
New Subbie and binge watching❤
The lifelong partner of Hudson would have received nothing for devoting his life to him. Gay marriage was only made legal recently. I imagine Hudson would have been ok with the lawsuit.
A truly stunning man! He stars in one of my favorite movies Pillow Talk with Doris Day. I also really loved that episode of I Love Lucy he did.
Pillow Talk was and still is a great movie and I remember his guest appearance on I Love Lucy.
Marlon Brando was wild!
Did I hear correctly that Phyllis Gates only received $250 a week ($1000 per month) from Hudson? How can this be?
This was a good one 👏🏾 golden reality tv here! 😂❤
Love your videos! They're so informative! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 FYI, the guy whose name you didn't say in full is Harvey Weinstein. Have you done a video on him yet? I think that would be quite interesting 🤔
And forgive my ignorance if you've already done this... but since it's black history month I'd like to know more about Bill Cosby as well.
22:59 No disrespect to Tupac but nearly 20 yrs after. Janet Jackson used the no kissing policy based off the (H)ouse (I) in (V) Virginia theory in Hollywood. Love your commentary and history is LIFE 🤗
As a fellow content creator - ❤Great video Karine!
I love Hollywood history and mysteries. Can you please please do the Thomas Ince murder?❤
I just found you and I love you already. So I’m subscribing.
Going to watch more of your videos
We always knew he was gay...well, at least that's what my mom always said.
Mom was an old movie buff. She knew just about every star from the 30s -70s. She would tell us wayyyy back (and i mean wayyy back) that Hudson (as well as Robert Reed) were gay.
When Reed passed everyone at my job, he was shocked to learn he was gay. I was the only one on the job who was not shocked.
I wish we still had had that mystery about us. People had way more genuine fun back then. People who can’t believe this would happen are living in a shell of ignorance. He was a good looking man.
If the marriage was for both of them of fake then why did she secretly record him that doesn’t make sense. Unless she was trying to get money out of him. 15:45
I think she knew about his sexuality but when she felt like he preferred men over her, she had enough.
Rock Hudson was so handsome and was a good actor.
Makes me think of how everyone was hyper-focused on Will and Jada then "all of a sudden" the Diddy news dropped.
Firstly I love all your videos ❤
They are so well researched!
I would love to see a video on Burt Lancaster, I recently read his biography, and he is still a complete mystery to me. He could be so kind and yet so cruel. A true Jekyll & Hyde
I will never enjoy a stick of rock again after watching this!
There was a price to pay for all that debauchery.
He had the most gorgeous smile his face just lit up when did.
Rock Hudson was cute. Cary Grant was gorgeous.
@jrd3523 Rock Hudson was more my type and he had the most kissable mouth from my point of view.
@KarineAlourde You enjoy vintage Hollywood ? My aunt is 'Boots Mallory'. She was married to William Cagney , the brother of James Cagney. I consider my family a great conversation starter.
I think you should change the title up a bit. Maybe keep the first part and change up the last to “who caught hiv” Totling things like this is a defamation suit waiting to happen. Take advice from someone who graduated from
An accredited journalism school. I don’t want you to experience a lawsuit
Good point. Maybe you can email her or comment under her post to get her attention
He was a good actor. Can you do Burt Reynolds?
Burt Reynolds was also a Peter puffer? No shit!
She can't do him. He's dead.
I saw something that showed his Manager used him as the Hollywood sax doll. He passed Rock around Hollywood to prove how much control he had. Using peoples dreams against them, while people would do anything for their dreams. Crazy
You’re right that the generation of the golden age of Hollywood (1913-1962) acted differently. Some of it was due to the fact a high school education was often more some colleges today w/regards to reading, proper writing & speech, so expression was more eloquent & the US had just come out of the Victorian Age (in approx 1912) & censorship of movies, then TV & radio for “decency standards” had studios “cancelling” actors for perceived immoral behavior. It’s wild to think about it. But the young adults of the early 1920s were very open in talking about sex. Every generation has lived, just not every generation talked about it in classless ways like they sometimes do today.
Such a sad starting life….so unfair !
Also the surgery on the voice…never knew that whatsoever! 🤔 that was interesting as well and I’m going to research on that a little more!
FBI file? That's a joke because J. Edger Hoover was gay.
I didn't know you could change your voice! I would have done that years ago, I can't sing anyway lol
Are they even going to make a movie about him, Like they did with Liberace's Behind The Candelabra?
I just LOVE your silky-like voice
I love you ❤ karrine your channel and content be on fire 🔥 these stories be off the hook honeyyyyy i know Rock Hudson story will be very interesting he definitely was very handsome i must say❤ may God forever rest his soul i remember when he passed away 😢
I'm 62. I was in graduate school when Rock Hudson passed away. I remember my mother and many older people at that time being shocked to discover that Rock Hudson was gay. But back in the golden age of Hollywood, those studios paid off the gossip columnist to not report details of stars' lives which would harm their careers. The gossips columnists usually reported on things that would help these actors and actresses. If they did report something controversial, they often did not include the names of the stars, but just hint at their identity. Homosexuality was considered completely off-limits to report on back in those days. Gossip columnists might get wind of an extra-marital affair or a divorce or firing, etc. But homosexuality and having children without wedlock were both taboo. If those gossip columnists reported something like that, that would be the end of their career too. Perhaps have even lethal consequences for them.
Are you kidding, it was an open secret that Rock was gay as early as 1964.
All I can say is to quote Carl from Sling Blade "Two men art not to lay down together!"
Love that movie. Never see it play anywhere.
So Rock Hudson was also a Me Too victim, and he was not fully gay but bi-sexual with a preference of being with men.
Imagine if PrEP and PEP was established and readily available in the 1970s.
Nah he was definitely gay 🤷🏽♂️