@@PatricenotPatrick I'm not sure why you keep commenting stuff like this but it seems like you want some kind of validation and not because you actually care about what you are saying. You mention toxic masculinity in your other reply even though both comments you replied to weren't talking about toxic masculinity.
She's exactly like my half-sister. I witnessed her trying to break down the bathroom door to attack her child's father, but I heard later that she told my mom that he was the one who did it. She might even believe her own lies, I don't know.
I really want to know why Amber Heard has been wearing the exact same outfits that Depp has worn on previous days in the trial. It baffles me. Not body language but still behavioral I guess haha
She's still abusing him to this day. The copying of the outfits and hairstyles on her part is intentional, she's trying to intimidate him and to show him who has "the upper hand".
Talking of being honest, how has this case come so far with no evidence of any kind of physical abuse? So he cussed at someone? This is about actually physical abuse that leaves plenty of evidence, of which we’ve seen none at all?? All we need is photo’s & medical report & he’s guilty! But nothing?? Nothing at all? Your dragged over broken glass? You’d have glass embedded in your body,severe cuts that would need stitching!!! WTF is going on? Just no evidence??? At all?🤨
The lawsuit isn't even about abuse. The lawsuit is whether her article about being an abuse victim (without naming Depp) CAUSED him to lose work. He lost that case in the UK. It was shown in court he had 12 cases of abuse against Amber. I am not on Amber's side here but people on the internet are really being confused about what the trial is about.
You wanna know whats worse? There is recorded evidence of AMBER being the abuser When she admitted on a recording (made by herself) that she was hitting Jhonny and he wasn't fighting back
i really cannot figure out how she has no obvious photos, no witnesses, no medical records, no police witnesses, etc. etc. The kind of abuse she is reporting would necessitate medical treatment and there would be practitioners who could testify to that. i've been open to the truth being somewhere in the middle of these two sides, but i absolutely cannot figure out why there is no evidence of the severe physical abuse she is reporting.
Interesting how the so called specialist didn't pick up the anxiety that comes from looking down on the floor and fidgeting all over the place. This is why I don't believe this guy who claims to be a body analyst as he clearly has no idea what he is talking about as this woman doesn't look uncomfortable to be in the same room as him she can be seen to be smiling, smug and doesn't at all appear to be scared of Johnny at this point which doesn't correlate to actual domestic abuse victims behaviours even years after the break up or trial. All you do with this channel is add more fuel to the controversies or cases and sticks to whoever seems to be on the winning side.
I appreciate the the lack of bias you're portraying. This is a complicated situation and I like that I can finally get a less biased take on some of it.
With all of the PTSD from childhood trauma and going through all of this I would be uncomfortable also. He has said in the past he is not good out in public unless it's in character. He has always self soothed or looked shy through his whole career. He is a very humble person that doesn't really like the attention.
Especially when he is totally sober, I've seen that a lot in substance-users before - they just feel more insecure without their drugs. With all the intimate details of his past rolled out in public (some which he certainly is not proud of), while literally everyone is watching (including his family members), yeah, that's emberassing and shameful. I myself could not even imagine to be in the same room with someone who abused me, let alone react approbriate.
@@gabrielefried3853 not to mention the mental anguish of having to sit there and listen to your abuser turn the abuse around on you. That has to be so stressful.
Omg Amber's Ex Assistant was just brilliant to watch testify. She was blunt af & was not going to put up with Amber's lawyer's shenanigans & called him out repeatedly👏🏻😆 . I highly recommend watching!
This! I liked her testimony and her bluntness, she was like all business, no bullshit. Also JD:s best friend gave a good testimony and was able to tell the stories in a way you can imagine the situations as they were happening
I really love your analysis but I think it's important to know that Johnny has diagnosed ADHD. It's very difficult for us to look at somebody while listening so we usually look down to processes auditory information. He has anxiety as well and has always seemed very shy in the spotlight unless it's in character so that's important. Fidgeting, self soothing and stimming is almost impossible NOT to do and he's unfortunately a chain smoker forced to keep away from that for hours. Good analysis but I think that's important to take into note😊
Never knew about the ADHD so that’s interesting to know. The rest I can understand that he would have that considering what he’s going through. Even more understandable now after he’s pretty much displayed every detail of his life.
@@EllaJay When a person has Adhd they sometimes take longer to process/think about what they are going to say or do, especially when they are in the spotlight. They also sometimes focus on certain things that other people overlook. Another symptom is that they can easily forget things no matter how much they are reminded about. Anxiety also worsens these symptoms, which is one of the reasons why some people with ADHD are tense. These are just some of the symptoms I can name off of the top of my head, my boyfriend has ADHD and recently started taking medication. But then again, everyone has different symptoms and acts differently upon it, I highly recommend that your daughter gets a check up to see whether or not she has it. It helps you understand and communicate better with them :)
I love your videos, but you really should have looked into his public medical issues such as his ADHD and anxiety for SOME of his movements. However I want an overall review of her behavior vs his. Especially abuser vs victim. She is trying to manipulate him. Her staring him down and coming in the next day dressed like him and his hiding and angling his face away from her. She is still trying to exert control. That is abusive behavior
His doctor showed that he's diagnosed with ADHD Bipolar 1 and Anxiety. As well as the fact that he's a chain smoker and he's unable to smoke while sitting there for long hours. These are big factors.
It really says a lot about Johnny's character when his own ex-wife spoke on his behalf and said that Johnny never laid a finger on her in anger in all the years they were married
It reminds me of Mel Gibson and Oksana Grigorieva's relationship, some people should not be together. Never heard of Mel's first wife saying anything bad about him either.
@@angelabrolund1373 that’s a great point- some people just push each other’s buttons. Just because Johnny allegedly didn’t hit Vanessa doesn’t mean he didn’t hit Amber. Maybe Vanessa was mellow AF and Amber was feisty and argued back. Also- it probably didn’t hurt that most of the time Johnny was in cali and Vanessa was in Europe. Further, most of Johnny’s rages stem from his jealousy about him Believing Amber was having an affair. Amber went out and was an actress. If Vanessa always stayed home on the French countryside there was less opportunity to enrage Johnny
@@Puglover130 IDK my dad was jealous of my mom so I saw it a lot. I don't think it would matter because Vanessa was in a whole other country 1000s of miles away would still make him go off. it might be true they were like oil and water but also Heard has several people saying she was abusive so maybe she's toxic af and he's a victim. I look forward to seeing what all comes out this trial.
The fact that throughout this entire trial, Amber has somehow been matching his outfits and then sits FACING him, almost as if it’s meant to intimidate him, while he looks down and is paying attention to what is happening speaks volumes.
It's called mirroring. It's a narcissistic trait. She did it when she was first with him and throughout their relationship. I think she's doing now for 2 reasons 1) it makes people talk and 2) it's creepy af and makes Johnny uncomfortable
Mirroring isn't just a narcissistic trait, everyone mirrors. It's how we show we're interested and make connections. The way she's doing it is manipulative though bc she's doing it on purpose to send a message and intimidate him. She's telling him she's still in control.
She is a narcissist, no doubt. She thought she won the lottery when he married her. I think he is the more pliable, nay innocent person in this narcissistic union.
@@juliefisk8066 i don't believe this is mirroring, but it does sound like she's trying to intimidate him. Mirroring is a very subconscious thing (however can be done intentionally) when we take on similar/same behaviors and body language of those we are around in the moment. It typically shows that we are interested in the people around us. People actually tend to do it around their crushes especially.
Does it occur to you that it could be “aggravating” and require “self soothing” to relive the worst point of your life; which he, admittedly, chose to do, because he had no choice. Like he said, the minute the article came out; he lost; regardless of how the trial ends. He just wants the truth out there; even if not everyone believes it. I, as an experienced trial attorney, can tell you I believe every word he’s said.
As an attorney; you sure do use; a lot of semicolons; JS What school you graduated from? 🎓 Semicolons are used when a sentence isn't finished lol 😆 Doesn't look like you went to law school. 🤣 My son when he was 5 years old could write better than you. Btw I do RUclips as well. I'm so sick of these, "influences" acting like they have a degree! You have a degree in RUclips. Otherwise, you would have a real law firm to practice in. And would know how to spell correctly 🙄 Considering judges read your notes.. you should already be inclined to know how to write. That's what law school is for. Lol this is hilarious.
Man... I have to say, Observe, I am quite disappointed with your lack of or unwillingness to include Johnny Depp's confirmed diagnoses of ADHD, Anxiety, and Bipolar disorder in your assessment. And I'd be very interested to see how, factoring into account those diagnoses, that would affect your observations when it comes to his "self-soothing" and "manipulators".
@@brittneysillito827 Well he never mentioned taking them into account, not even when they were most relevant. So no, he didn't account for it in the baseline.
@@brittneysillito827 You’re forgetting the baseline he’s likely using is for a neurotypicals, when neurodivergent people literally have completely different brain chemistry, to the point where natural stimulators act to slow things down in people with things like ADHD. Given how harsh his criticisms were and seemingly not taking into account the fact that constant fidgeting and self-soothing gestures are a natural part of ADHD, especially when in a boring room for hours no matter the context watched by thousands if not millions, hardly even taking into account his anxiety and bipolar disorder, it seems suspiciously like he’s ignoring these important factors. Considering Observe has a history of ignoring these sorts of important behaviours and treating everyone as if they were neurotypical from what I’ve read, it ain’t a good thing.
@@kittensareawesome2789 I have found that observe is quite dismissive of neurodivergent traits in general, I've had a break from watching his content as it made me feel ashamed from some of his assessments. I have adhd and can't help some of the weird reactions my body has so ND traits defo need taking into consideration more
@@michellewhittle8618 Yeah, that’s a problem he desperately needs to address. Especially because it’s throwing off his accuracy by an absolutely colossal margin.
I know that you're only analyzing what you can see here but it has to be mentioned that AH is continuing to manipulate him and play mind games with him DURING this trial by copying his clothes. She's doing it every single day, wearing the exact same outfit he wore the day prior. It's her last power move she has left and she's damn well using it. Right down to the Gucci bee pin he wore on his black tie (along with his all black suit) on day one that she wore on day two. THE SAME ALL BLACK SUIT AND GUCCI BEE PIN ON HER TIE. Imagine trying to keep your head together while your abuser is mocking you from across the courtroom.
I'm sorry, what the fuck?? I really hope Logan learns of that for the next video cause that's a clear power move and shouldn't sit right with anyone. What the hell.
"Imagine trying to keep your head together while your abuser is mocking you from across the courtroom." This made me smile. My first reaction was: Well, that is how life usually goes. I am about to go to work, see some people who were mocking me yesterday. I decided to take the high road, let the rest of the team see what they see and keep my cool. It is not going to be an easy day. Again.
Yeah typical abuser manipulation to prevent the victim from leaving. She can not continue to abuse after he leaves. Although she has made a serious effort.
i think it’s important to remember that johnny depp is diagnosed with ADHD and the manipulators might just be him moving around and fidgeting lol. i wonder if it makes for an inaccurate read. (also this isn’t hate. i just wanted to make sure you’re aware! i have ADHD & autism. i love your videos because they give me insight on what peoples’ facial expressions and movements might mean, since i don’t always understand them.)
I didn't even know about his diagnoses and I guessed that about him. It runs in my family and I might have it as well. I picked up on those gestures immediately.
Oh interesting! That’s a good piece of info to have. It would be interesting to hear Logan talk about how much/if that influences things, or if it’s still just getting the regular baseline he always tries for. Good catch!
I didn't know about that, but that makes a lot of sense. Honestly, a friend of mine has really intense ADHD and no current treatment, and it does sometimes make her act in ways that some people would think odd. I know when she's lying or not at this point (more trying to deny to herself and me that she did something), but someone else who doesn't have that knowledge about her probably couldn't, or they'd be confused by her actions.
He tends to keep diagnoses like that in mind and watches footage of them outside of stressful situations to observe their baseline. Typically fidgeting and movements like this are usually more frequent or broad during high stress situations, but would still be present even at the baseline if only subtly. I do believe Logan has ADHD as well, and his wife is autistic so I know he does try to keep things like that in mind. It’s neat learning that JD has ADHD too, I love learning about actors I’ve always looked up to who have similar divergencies like myself. Thanks for opening up this topic of conversation and bringing awareness to it! Not everyone realizes that the fidgeting and lack of eye contact aren’t always simply deceptive movements! ❤️🌟
I am so happy Depp fought to have this televised. We are witnessing his redemption and the truth about what she said and did. I’m so happy for him and I hope his reputation is being restored in real time
Johnny Depp has always come off as just so humble. And even to this day still. Just looking at Amber you can see something isn’t right. And ESPECIALLY when you watch her on the stand in the previous trial. Johnny Depp was holding a show at my old work. Whereas most celebrities have security close off the employee outside break area (that’s where celebrities come into the casino), he not only didn’t request that, he hung out with everyone and talked like everyone was old buddies. He was love-bombed by this deceitful nasty woman
I met Johnny back in his 21 Jump Street days. He was so quiet, shy and reserved. He made me feel that his attention was totally on me. He was sweet. Been a fan of his since that. I'm TEAM JOHNNY ALL THE WAY!
@@vickinewby408 yep. See? I’ve seen interviews of him even from back then, and he was still so humble and intelligent. An interview with him about that show when he was just started. And even then he was so humble and wise about what Hollywood was, And was it was becoming for him. And that’s not what he wanted. On another note.. I just saw a clip of Amber H complaining in the middle of an interview about being distracted by doors being open and shut. Just a total btch about it. Even if it was for her promoting her own crappy work.
Regarding the mouth thing, he is neurodivergent. His social cues are going to be vastly different and easily misinterpreted by those without his developmental disability because of this inherently. This really should have been considered and bringing on someone with his disability to consult would have been a really good idea.
I'd love to see someone with a similar disability chime in this conversation, it'd be interesting (for this trial/story) as well as educational (overall, as as a society we tend to forget about neurodivergent people)
@@LunaSkye64 Me too usually but if memory serves, Logan is himself Neurodivergent so I would imagine if he knows that JD is, he's taking that into consideration.
I just can't agree with most of this. No matter how good an actor you are, as you said, you can't mask genuine traumatic memories or thought processes. Also, JD is well known to be shy and introverted as well as not liking to be centre of attention. He's in court surrounded by cameras broadcasting this to the entire world who will now know all the intimate details of his life. Of course he's agitated. He's uncomfortable and nervous and out of his comfort zone. He also has ADHD and bipolar which makes sitting still difficult. As for his frown it's obvious that he's taken aback by AH's lawyers claims. Considering the whole "dragged her through broken glass, pounded her and penetrated her with a bottle" is the first time this claim has ever been made (it was never mentioned in any other charges or AH's deposition and is entirely new, go figure) no wonder he's shocked and in quiet disbelief and looking for comfort by using soothing motions. I'm not body language expert but I do work in severe mental health where reading body language is important and what you said seems almost a little bias and a mix of overthought, or on the wrong track/harsh.
My exact thoughts, I haven’t been Diagnosed with ADHD but Im a naturally fidgety person and if I was in his position I would be shaking like crazy, you couldn’t stop me from bouncing my leg up and down.
@@owenbridgers ohh boy do i relate to this, i do the leg bouncy thing without even realising sometimes and even when i’m told to stop, i unconsciously do it again a few seconds later 😭
@@owenbridgers I don’t have diagnosed ADHD, but I do have anxiety, and I can never sit still. I would be constantly changing positions, or picking at my skin or something
It's important to remember that reactive abuse is a known phenomenon, and that it's fairly common for abuse victims to eventually snap back at their abusers.
I did. That’s when I knew I needed to get out because I was reacting to his abuse and that’s not who I am so I finally left. People think mutual abuse and reactive abuse are the same thing and they’re not
Exactly. The abused have been known to kill their abuser, so knowing the depth of the aftermath of what he went through twice, in childhood and with Amber, how else do you expect him to react?
Johnny Depp has confirmed, on the record, medical diagnosis of ADHD, anxiety & bipolar. Does knowledge of these change your thoughts on his body language?
I wish he would say an bring this up. Last time he made video like this people told him he hates being in public eye an has ADHD, anxiety, and now we know also confirmed bipolar. Mixed with his past truama an continues abuse an now probably cptsd it explains ALOT but he never says anything. I get he wants to come off neutral but :/ idk rubs me wrong
As someone with bipolar, anxiety, and CPTSD i have an easy enough baseline for anyone who spends 10 minutes reading me. Disorders don't change that someone will have a baseline, but if there's even a small amount of discomfort or stress there will be spikes all over the place which can be difficult to read because what generally may read as a possible sign of deception may be the individual's way of self soothing or simply a show of "this is getting close to setting off an anxiety attack". My husband is a psychologist who does most of his work through non-verbal communication, particularly micro-expressions, and knowing what Depp's diagnoses are, along with his baseline (he's generally very awkward and does a lot of self soothing when he's speaking with media, but when he does his Jack Sparrow visits to paediatric wards/hospitals he's totally in character and there's zero show of agitation and self soothing), and from what he's been able to pick up on from both Depp and Heard is that Depp is so far staying true to his patterns, and it's Heard displaying the deception and intimidation strategy. I hope that helps shed a little light for you.
@@KatiB5587 having cptsd and adhd with further trauma as an adult plus periods of acute depression, what you've said is what I've felt about these two all along. The way Depp faces the judge, not Heard is consistent too. Heard positions herself to easily see both Depp and the judge. He matters to her but not her to him.
@observe - are you aware Johnny Depp is diagnosed ADHD? He's neurodiverse, confirmed, & masking/self soothing/fidgeting will impact his baseline - have you factored that into your observations?
EXACTLY!! Thank you for standing up for us 🙏 I really appreciate not always being accused of lying because I’m neurodivergent. I hope everyone takes this into account as well.
That's the thing, being ND (ADHD/ASD I know more about but certainly tourettes is also a ND neurotype) impacts every aspect of processing and emotional regulation and without a deep understanding of how the neurotype of a person makes them process entirely differently it stands to reason that their non-verbal analysis is based on a *completely* different baseline than neurotypicals. Source: I'm ADHD + ASD, and work in a multinational bank as a diversity and inclusion officer with a focus on improving our ND-friendliness basically
Considering that I was doing all the same "self-soothing" and "manipulators", not to mention the leg jiggles, hair/ear tugging/pulling, finger tapping, etc., while watching this on 1.5 speed because the lawyers kinda droned on, please remember to include Depp's neurodivergencies (ADHD, bipolar, anxiety) in your observations because things like ADHD take all a neurotypical's behaviors and throws 'em straight outta window.
Yes! After watching a few videos of his and while I love them I really wish he put a declaimer or something that mental illness has you act differently with tells.
The term "manipulator" in this sense feels wrong to me anyway. Like, isn't manipulation expressed with intent...usually? How are unconsciousness behaviors intentionally "manipulative"?
@@somberlo In a lot of previous videos, Logan clarifies that when the word "manipulator" is used in body language analysis, it means "handle, control, or move with the hands" and just refers to the physical act of movement, not an emotional or psychological manipulation. It doesn't mean that someone is "being manipulative".
When Johnny was discussing his childhood there are moments where you can see him slightly rocking himself. You could tell that he was tormented as child. It's amazing that he survived AH and didn't OD. It's also nice to see his concern for his children. What a complicated life for anyone to survive.
You really ought to do some research on inter generational trauma if you believe someone can come out of a childhood like that and not develop a personality disorder.
@@Pauleysteph right; but he does have ASPD, because of his childhood trauma, and that means that he’s almost always, or always, going to be the more abusive one in a relationship. Even if that abuse is not physical, but psychological, it’s more damaging than the types of abuse women with trauma disorders inflict on their spouse/partner. Please consider that, due to your childhood, your intuition has been broken or damaged. Coming from the vanishingly rare place of having experienced no childhood trauma, I’m better able to look at these situations objectively. It’s crucial that we understand how very differently girls experience childhood trauma, and how very differently that trauma manifests in them as teens and adults. This actually reminds me a lot of the Will Smith/Jada Pinkett Smith dynamic, and how Will has been placed into the “only victim” role, even though he’s been psychologically torturing Jada their entire relationship. Most men with ASPD are not criminals. Most men with ASPD never get diagnosed. I actually think I have figured out why society seems to be inclined to blame women when there is a relationship dynamic of ASPD male and BPD female, or even codependent female(though this is less common). We naturally hold women to a higher standard, which I think is understandable. When children are abused by their fathers, they will always blame their mothers for not protecting them, and in some cases, even participating in the abuse. As the girls grow up, they punish themselves, as a proxy of their mother, and as the boys grow up, they punish women, as a proxy of their mother. When people who have been abused as children are looking in on a relationship like Johnny’s and Amber’s, they are also inclined to blame the woman, again, as a proxy of their mother. Inter generational trauma causes women to lose all of the wonderful “powers”, or rather, cognitive functions, they are born with, including their intuition and their empathy. I’ve read so many comments from people, especially women, saying terrible things about Amber, and it’s almost as if they are taking out a personal grievance with her. That’s not empathy. If you can’t see that she’s not only a victim of Johnny’s, but also a victim of her parents’, then your intuition and empathy don’t work the way they’re supposed to in women. To be clear, I do feel very badly for Johnny, due to the abuse he suffered during childhood. But please consider that a man who was physically abused by his mother, and possibly had a codependent father, or father with NPD who simply gave up(NPD is more likely, as a codependent man would never just leave his children with an abusive mother), can never have a healthy relationship with women. He will always be looking to punish his partner, because she represents his mother. I don’t remember if we ever heard about abuse during his relationship with Vanessa Paradis, but if not, that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. That only means she didn’t talk about it, which is a sign she was a codependent rather than a childhood trauma victim. Codependents don’t report, especially the men.
@@katieandnick4113 thank you for you opinion. I do not consider myself broken and have worked hard to be a balanced person. That being said, when I want to support AH I will commit on a page designed for her. Might I suggest that you consider a less aggressive form of "information", especially focusing on not diminishing or belittling others for their opinions and/or experiences. I can and will praise whomever I chose for improvements and/or accomplishments they have made. In that, you can lift someone up without punishing them for where they still fall short. I never said that JD was perfect, none of us are. You need to consider your owe prejudgements and stop reading things into comments believing that the person leaving those comments are uneducated, inexperienced, or down right dumb. I will no longer respond to you as I will not engage with a person who decides to teach me something without knowledge of what I do or do not know, or submit myself to someone that wants to treat me with disrespect.
I thought the same. Trauma creates great actors. It's actually tragic and we love that they make us laugh. I hope he finds real peace. It's sad what happened to Robin Williams. He seems to be surrounded by some dark people or demons. I wish him wellness.
For the love of chocolate cake, it is obvious to anyone who has been a victim of domestic violence to soothe themselves when their abuser is in the same room and when their name is mentioned. Johnny was soothing not using manipulation techniques.. Males are victims of domestic violence too..
I’d like to see you do some analyses on people with severe anxiety disorders, and ADHD, ASD, OCD etc. I have a severe anxiety disorder, and I’m always biting my hand, touching my face/ neck, and so much of the time, my mind has spiraled into some insane scenarios while holding a conversation. The nature of anxiety is that people think of stuff that disturbs them so I’d like to see how that comes through in body language.
I'm on disability for various psych issues. I watched a polygraph video the other day and laughed because I would even fail things like "favourite color". I feel guilty for shit OTHER ppl do, ffs! So, I too would love to see analysis of someone who is known to have psychological problems and how to even find a baseline!
ive been saying this forever. it really changes how people are "REad" by body language analysts. its like "do your research into the persons neurocondition and see if it changes. research into how ADHD or anxiety or bipolar is shown. Cuz you know if we (neurodivergent ppl) ever get pulled into an interrogation we are immediately going to jail
Just for the record. As everyone mentioned Johnny being neuro divergent. Something he has also been doing in court is sketching in a notepad. That is surely evidence of his ADHD and anxiety issues causing many micro displays across his face and body movements/gestures. People with those conditions have a tendency to show ‘thought processing’ on their face. You can see it when he is recalling things after a witness mentions something in the past.
everyone shows thought processing. Not only people. All the time. It is rather about how you put it on display. And this is very much conscious display of controlled, reduced emotion. You never sit in freeze position with laidback look. You gotta know what your muscles do and what your appearance need to look like to stay in such a position for that long.
@@legnivetz true but people with some “extra” issues shall we say tend to be a little extra in general - in well, everything…. Probably why he’s such a great actor ect.
There is no way that is 'surely evidence' of adhd or anxiety and I say this as someone who has both. People of all types do this. It takes a bit more than that.
Its more i think because he is a creative person. So more user of the right side of the brain. I´m too. So if i have to stay with focus on my left brain for so many hours, i will have to go to my right brain, that its my normal, to center, balance and be more be. In my way. More colected. Its like watering a plant.
He's on the spectrum and needs music and drawing to focus. He's a wonderful and misunderstood person and I hope he knows how loved he truly is. Justice for Johnny!
don't know many "wonderful, shy, calm" people who hurl glass bottles & cups when angry or talk about raping their SO's dead body. Not saying that I think Amber is innocent here but lets not fool ourselves, he clearly has some violent tendencies
His movements are actually a good representation of how people with ADHD can act while having to sit still. I myself is diagnosed with it and never saw myself as hyperactive but then realised how I just have to move somehow more often than other people.
i usually agree with most of what you’re saying but i think you’re missing a lot of key points as to why johnny acts the way he does. maybe im biased cause i love johnny but i think it might be important to do some research
The finger across the mouth is something I’ve seen before. When my stepfather was being verbally abusive to my mother, she would put her finger across her mouth just like Johnny Depp. She was hurt, disappointed and embarrassed. Every time he was abusive she would do that. When I saw Johnny Depp do that, it reminded me of the dark times of my childhood.
Yes! Almost a "I need to keep my mouth shut so that my abuser doesn't get mad at me too" gesture. So sorry that you had to live in an abusive situation, friend.
Yeah, when I saw Johnny do that it was like looking in a mirror. It happens every time my mother or sister raises her voice towards me and I instantly knew what it meant for him. I hope he gets justice
I do the same thing when I don't want anyone seeing my emotions. It could be positive or negative emotion. I cover my mouth like that when I'm about to cry but same thing happen when I start smiling at some stupid joke.
I've got ADHD and ASD, lots of his gestures are similar to things I might do to self soothe, or do just as a normal baseline even, especially during stressful events where I'm unable to get up and move. Please, PLEASE, when you assess things like this keep their diagnosis in mind. I love your content, but this isn't the first time your analysis has completely ignored valid mental health diagnosis that can change these sorts of things. EDIT:Wow, RUclips dropped the ball on the notifications. So, uh, I guess thanks for the likes! And for those of you annoyed about people "making a diagnosis their identity" or "sharing their diagnosis and saying Depp does the same", just shove off. I spoke for myself and my experience alone, there was no 'we' though I'm grateful to see I'm not alone. I can't separate my diagnosis from who I am because they've been with me since birth, they helped shape me. I am not JUST my diagnosis, but neither can I ignore the significant impact they've had.
As someone else who is autistic and has ADHD as well, I can also testify to this. I can be extremely fidgety if I can't keep my hands busy while listening to someone or something. My anxiety can also make this worse in a stressful situation as it has led to panic attacks in the past. These things are super important to take into account for body language and facial readings. Another thing, I personally end up doodling a lot while listening to anything because it's the best way for me to channel nervous energy, so even if he's doing something that might seem like he's not paying attention, it could just be a way to channel that nervous energy that isn't super disruptive. Obviously no expert myself, but thought that might be helpful to point out since I saw some mentions of him doodling on a notepad at some points.
I'm also AuDHD and I couldn't agree more, I was debating writing my own comment about it. I love Logan's content but a lot of the things said in this video made me kind of disappointed because I make expressions and movements identical to these displayed by Johnny, just as a regular everyday baseline. I think he really needs to take these things into consideration because as a ND, these things are literally WHO WE ARE and affect everything we do. You just can't analyze us the same as you would anybody else. Anyways thank you for your comment, I was glad to see it.
Logan I'm glad this video is short because it gives you a chance to reassess for next time if you choose cover more of this case. He has ADHD as well as some other stuff (see all the other comments highlighting this lol) which makes your points about his fidgeting, discomfort and "altered state" fall a bit flat and to be honest made me stop watching this video. A few other commenters have mentioned this but it would be good if you took the above into account (even in a pinned comment) or even justified your expected baseline of someone being neurotypical - it might be that us viewers are missing something and this is just how these analyses are done idk, but this feels like it's misrepresenting such a delicate situation, and casual viewers may not read the comments and instead take this as absolute fact. I really hope you don't take my comment the wrong way, I usually love your videos but this hits very close to home (always hearing "she's fiddling so she must be lying!") and I just feel this could have had a better approach to it 🤷🏼♀️
I do a lot of the "self-soothing" behaviors Johnny is doing when I am nervous or in a confrontational situation, especially if someone else is speaking on my behalf. I can imagine he just feels very exposed and could even be fearing his ex-wife's reaction to this. If he has been abused by her in the past, it seems completely logical to assume that he could be feeling a bit anxious about the accusations his lawyer is saying about amber, especially when she accuses her of being "the perfect actress" and whatnot. He seems like he is a very reserved person anyway, so having such a confrontational tone in his opening statement could definitely put him on edge.
@@Escapist_007 there are a list of traits and you need to exhibit a specific amount or more of that list constantly. Also there are test you need to take I think.
Fuck the adhd. Dudes terrified. His entire body language radiates submission, fear. I fucking bet if you touched his hand you’d feel his arm shaking. He’s showing g body language of abuse victims. Poor man.
I'm watching day 5 right now and they're now showing both on screen during his witness part and Boy oh Boy she really can't keep her baseline. Thank you so much for uploading this! I was hoping you'd jump on it. Really, really interesting.
She just keeps adding things to her list that he supposedly did. I do not believe her. I do not think he did any of that stuff to her. She is dragging him through the mud and ruining his life all for attention. It is sad that he has to go through this.
@@jessicapearson9479 listening to her lawyers opening statement about penetration with a bottle? Like that wasn’t mentioned in the U.K. trial was it? I’m certain I would have remembered that 🧐😳
It’s become obvious that one of his coping mechanisms when retelling painful memories is that he has this little smile/laugh. He did it during his testimony about his mother and in the deposition when he talked about Heard cutting off his finger.
@@ninachr I’m not a doctor, so I don’t have to adhere to the Goldwater rule. It’s very important that the general population know what trauma based disorders look like, and since the APA is working so hard to have us not know, people like me, who understand these disorders, need to step up.
@@ninachr oh, absolutely. There is a distinction between ASPD with psychopathy, and ASPD without. Men(only men) are born with different brain chemistry that causes psychopathy. But when it’s only ASPD, it is a result of pretty severe childhood trauma. I think it depends on the natural personality of the child, as to how much abuse can lead to ASPD. All cluster B and cluster C disorders are a result of abuse or neglect during infancy and childhood. Nobody is born a sociopath or a narcissist or a borderline or an avoidant. What’s even more tragic is that, in the DSM, none of these disorders have childhood trauma as a diagnosis criterion. ASPD does require evidence or diagnosis of conduct disorder before age 15, but that’s as deep as it goes. Considering that the APA is owned by oligarchs, and oligarchs profit from traumatized people, I can see why they would want the populace to be as poorly informed about trauma disorders as possible. Not only does the DSM not include C-PTSD(which develops from long term childhood abuse), but I hear they’re thinking about removing PTSD as well. It’s absolutely tragic.
3:14 at this point im kind of wishing i didnt click on the video. right now im watching the case going live (on the days its up) and you can see him TRYING his hardest to be less shy/private about what happened to him. he is the victim after all. hes the one that has the most evidence that shows the "damages" of turds doing. it was the first day and i put alot of his behavior down to "nervous energy" and embarrassment that its had to go this far. he personally has many illnesses besides fighting the addiction that could be counted towards his "issues" (like the depression/ADHD/anxiety/PTSD/C-PTSD) and then the oones of embarrassment/shame/fear of not winning. the anxiety of being the main person on the case would be terrifying.
As someone with a deep understanding of their own ADHD, the first portion, where Johnny's own representative was speaking, looks like an ADHD person semi-dissociating and just idly stimming, not particularly as a response to what's being said. It's very likely that he's heard what his lawyer's opening remarks were going to be on a number of occasions, and his brain simply would not allow him to pay active attention to it. His movements do not appear connected to what is being said, but separate and involved with whatever internal thought's he's engaged with. Likely, he is half-listening, but as a sort of... subconscious recording of what is happening. Most of us can play back the last few seconds of something that we're not actively paying attention to because our brains absorb them in the background. So, he may be semi-hearing it, but not actually engrossed in it. The second part, however? That looks like someone very much hearing something that they are giving active focus to. Something they've heard for the first time, especially. The reactions you'll get there will be much closer to what you'd expect a neurotypical person to display, although they may actually be even MORE genuine than a neurotypical person. Many autistic and ADHD people are skilled at masking their neurodivergent traits when we intentionally engage with the world... but our private moments are very, very genuine. The second portion seems to be a more private and genuine display from Johnny, not a show he's intentionally putting on to manipulate. He is not attempting to mask, he is simply existing in the moment, and AT MOST, actively remembering to stop from stimming and keep his body as still as possible. But his facial expressions and other small movements? Those appear to not be pre-planned or manipulative as it is taking all of his expendable energy to keep actively listening, and bodily still. Edit: In true ADHD style, I forgot to mention why this is relevant. Johnny has been diagnosed with ADHD.
Yeah his video doesn’t do Johnny justice that he deserves as a survivor myself. I couldn’t even watch AH so toxic I had to turn away. It’s so much lies. It’s like she has a list of people saying what a liar she is. Everyone defends him because we all feel it and see it.
Logan, could you do an ep around reading the non-verbals of those of us who are Neuro-divergent? Your work is brilliant but everything I’ve looked at on yours, and other non verbal reading practitioners, all seem to be on Neuro typicals and I’m wondering how and if techniques have to change when assessing NDs? Is there research on the non-verbals of NDs? Thank you x
Getting a solid baseline (multiple observations of the person in other settings than the one being studied) is the singular most important thing when trying to interpret the non-verbal signals of anyone, including people who are 'neuro-divergent'. The techniques of analysis remain the same but without a comprehensive baseline the analysis will be flawed.
I’m so happy you did this! I can see myself in Johnny as he acts exactly (or well very similar) how I reacted from my trauma. I smile/laugh, fidget, rubbing my neck, cover my mouth when talking or hearing about something from my past, it’s just because I am uncomfortable and I am nervous as well embarrassed. By the way I adore your new setting!
Same here, I just wanna give him a massive hug. I've been dealing with drawn out court cases and being in and out of court for IVO (restraining order) applications, it's awful, stressful, it is triggering and can be traumatizing. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes home, maybe has a cry or even a drink. I personally always end up in hospital when I have a court date, it's awful. I'm disassociating, with depersonalization. This stuff has been dragged out, it's in the public eye and she is just vile doing everything she can to drag his name through the mud. I hope Johnny knows he's not alone, he's supported, loved and believed and heck even those fights that were recorded, you know she's standing over him screaming at him. He's not perfect, he's probably had some reactive abuse too, not to mention he's maybe been off his face on drugs or drunk and maybe they've gotten into a verbal altercation but in no way has he been abusive, especially to the extent Amber is claiming. Watching him on the stand, I saw his eyes, I see me in that. Flashbacks, you're trying to recall specific events without going into some kind of breakdown or panic due to a trigger. I wouldn't call myself a fan of him by any means but I've been in a similar situation, I get it and it hits extremely close to home
Yeah I honestly saw a lot of his mannerisms as signs that he is embarrassed. He is a notoriously private person so of course it would make him uncomfortable to have everything made so public. No one should be embarrassed to be a victim of abuse but it’s natural to feel it.
As a survivor of narcissistic abuse and domestic violence, I relate to a lot of the self soothing gestures, I feel like I'm always doing those things myself especially when I'm in an situation where my trauma is mentioned. Also feeling shame is very common. I really sympathize with him.
In my opinion all his gestures are self soothing. I want nothing but the best for Johnny and his family. He has given so much of his life to entertaining our thoughts and feelings through his Art.
Absolute insult to the jurors. Turd and her team are going down in history as The Biggest Douchebags. No one and Nothing can save Turd from the Karma she created upon herself. Game Over. Checkmate.
@@thatmeanpersononlineoffend9376 exactly!! She put him through hell. He had a few hotel trashing incidents when he was younger, but nothing beyond that, and everyone describes him as calm and quiet.
As a person who’s extremely anxious in a public setting I could relate to him changing his position and constant fidgeting, you can’t help but overthink how you look to the outside but try to stay comfortable and calm at the same time, it’s tough 😅 imo, there’s no deceit just an extremely introverted, stressed person
Logan I have watched all the court footage available for Day 1, 2 & 3 so far on the "Crime & Law Network" channel on RUclips. After listening to both sets of Lawyers, Amber's Lawyers come off anxious, stressed, flustered, & desperate. While Johnny's Lawyers appear professional, calm, organized & intelligent. It was difficult to hear about Johnny's substance problems and his traumatic childhood from his sister. Johnny's friend Isaac was amazing on the stand, what an amazing friend to have. Imo I think Johnny & Amber's had a toxic relationship but I do not believe Johnny physically abused Amber. I pray his name gets cleared 🙏🏻
Seems like she pushed every possible button to try and get him to attack her. She certainly didn’t make it easy to not abuse drugs. Agreed his side is so calm and has not come off as aggressive like Ambers team. Not to mention the dirty shit with Eve. 🙄
An abused person often does fight back at some point. Sadly, that often makes everyone else think it was a mutual thing...well, she hit him , too, so... or in this case, "well, he did do ___ to her, so they were both abusive..." It's sad. It's one reason Gabby Petito died. The police didn't see her as the desperate, scared, traumatized victim she really was because she admitted to fighting back. They saw it as a mutual couples fight. :-(
@Nonaya Bidness her bruises were faked If you looked at the pictures when they were published did you notice anything unusual about them? Like the fact they moved? Or that she went out the same night they were taken and didn't have a mark on her ? Zero swelling? Nothing out there including me miraculous cream they're touting can cause a full recovery in that way in that short of time. He was and has been innocent from day one, anyone believing her is quite possibly insane, or a fool. You're ignoring the evidence.
@Nonaya Bidness except for the fact that his didn't move his are still there and are taking the appropriate amount of time to heal And apparently you've never heard the recording she made saying no one would ever believe he was abused. She lied from day one got caught repeatedly and you're still on her side? Lmfao The denial is strong within you young Soywalker. You should quit neglecting your bridge I think I noticed some Billy goats trying to cross it.
amber is a horrible human being the fact that she still has her upcoming rolls is jaw dropping, but this is just corrupt hollywood being corrupt hollywood.
Unfortunately it's still a common misconception that men can't be victims of domestic abuse. So hollywood just immediately said, of course he was abusive and she was the victim. People just believed her.
I wouldn't count on her having any upcoming roles..Aqua 2 is coming bc she already has done it. she has burned studios with this trial and no one will touch her after her lies.
I couldn’t wait to hear your opinions on this case, but it’s honestly really sad to see that his ADHD and anxious tics are being seen as manipulative. We aren’t manipulative people, but mix ADHD and Trauma, you’re gonna get this reaction. I’m shocked he was as composed as he is, I’ve gone through severe abuse as someone diagnosed with ADHD & bipolar disorder. Everyone handles things different, sure, but his anxious tics and adhd mannerisms aren’t anything to be seen as deceitful. The man is facing his abuser and career ruiner in front of the entire world- safe to say he’s terrified of the outcome. I wish more people took ADHD seriously, honesty this is just sad to see. Justice for Johnny❤️
The term "manipulators" here is used more in the context of body language terminology. "Manipulators" are labelled in body language as touching or fidgeting with parts of the body (usually in response to high levels of stress). I don't believe the context of emotional manipulation is the one he using here.
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As a DV survivor, I think I speak for most of us when I say - we do not claim her, she does not represent us…. We are disgusted by her. People who lie about abuse are the reason that most actual victims are walking around without any justice.
I'm so grossed out victims are falling for him and APOLOGIZING on behalf of him, to men. How many women were murdered by men while this trial happened? How many men were murdered by women? I'm disgusted what this is going to do to the psyches of actual victim because this drunk narcissist with a God complex has a need to control the narrative. She's literally made his reputation better, from this trial. He should lose this case, but he knows he already won. Who LOST is most female victims who PEOPLE STILL DON'T BELIEVE. Yes men are abused, too (I have to say the words, or else men will be mad at me), but this is going to fuck women up for awhile now. As a victim, don't you dare lump women like you in with women like US who know he's a narcissist. Disgusting. The fact that men can be abused is brought up literally WHENEVER we talk about the violence of women by men, and has for decades. It's not like society is "finally" learning men can be abused. They've always used that fact to minimize their abuse of women, and right now that sentiment is doing its job EXTRA.
Another reason you should not claim to speak for domestic violence victims as a whole AT ALL, is that you gotta realize it's not going to be easy for them to come out and defend amber even if they do, nor will they come out and say anything negative about poor, downtrodden , millionaire Johnny, because they are definitely attacked. They are definitely not accepted as having a side, the mob immediately pounces. That's why some of us are vocal, and I am thankful for people who do say otherwise, especially men. He's definitely abusive himself. It doesn't matter at the end of the day if she lied, because he's not innocent. She challenged his narcissist image, and he's already lost one case in which he says she lied. I wish DV victims would think REALLY hard about who is benefitting by the pure rage towards this one woman. I already know mostly female victims lost. Don't try "oh but she made female victims look bad," no, NO. YOU did. your collective hatred of her put female victims believability down a fucking few notches. I hope the DV victims hating on her, and ironically hating on women who speak out, with such anger, are proud of themselves.
@@marissalw8445 thank you, well said! The misogyny I’ve seen from the comments on the internet have been absolutely vile and this case given them an excuse to be so open about hating women and why women SHOULNT be believed. When Johnny said, “If she was so abused, why didn’t she just leave?”, is disgusting and let’s say he happens to be the victim, how would he feel if someone said that to him? Why didn’t he leave? And also, she DID leave and even tried to get a restraining order and he retaliated. But he’s somehow changed the narrative to “poop in bed made me leave”, when there’s evidence that she was the one who chose to leave. Also, it’s strange how he’s been quoted talking about how he thought it would be a funny prank for Amber if HE defecated and left it for her as a “surprise”, as in he found that hilarious and amusing. And somehow; years later, he claims he was disgusted by finding poop on his bed and “how could anyone even think to do something like that!, yada yada yada, and claimed she did it to “get back at him”. Bruh. With the way he was abusing drugs and alcohol at that time, I wouldn’t be surprised if that was his own doing and he woke up the next morning sober and forgot what he did. He seems to “not recall” a lot of things based on his own testimonies.
As a DV survivor, and likely a survivor of childhood abuse/trauma/neglect, the cognitive function required to be able to look at this objectively, is not firing on all cylinders, so to speak.
I never was a fan of his, sure I recognised him on movies he was acting in, but I also never knew who this woman was until I saw her "abuse declarations" and I could never shake how FAKE she looked, thats why I suspected her from the start and got invested in the case Now that I know more about him I cant help but feel like I will become a fan, he is so genuine and has suffered so so much its just sad that she chose to go after him when he is so nice ;;
@@pattondurio seen him a few times when I was younger and a few more recently! He is a good actor and really funny too! I was just never a fan of him as a person ;; I kinda just didnt notice him outside of his films besides all the good deeds that would appear on the news from time to time!
As a victim of abuse, I can imagine why contempt would come in... My abuserS ended up telling people I was the problem, using any tactic like I was on medication when things happened, I had my period (no joke this was used againt me), just more and more absurd things to manipulate those around me into thinking I was the problem... These were two very long relationships and you just become so used to not being able to defend yourself aloud that you just take the moral high ground in your head because it's the safest place... ❤
I wonder if Johnny's self-soothing gesture at the beginning was because his lawyer was talking about abuse victims, and while he knows he is an abuse victim, he is uncomfortable with that knowledge. Owning that label reinforces the trauma of what a victim has gone through.
I normally really love your analysis but I just can’t agree with most of this one. For the next one it’s really important to note that Johnny is neuro divergent. He’s been diagnosed with ADHD and anxiety as well. Yes, he’s an actor, but as you said, often actors are the worst liars, when they aren’t in a set and don’t have a script. And you’ll see that with Amber as well, she’s supposed to be an actress but during this entire trial she has tried to cry and look guilty but she hasn’t been able to, because she knows what she did. So I don’t think you should bring acting into this, unless it’s too obvious and I don’t think it was with him. You’ll also see when Johnny takes the stand that he struggles to speak, a lot of filler words, having difficulty to recall events because of his trauma. So him scratching the back of his head, avoiding eye contact, putting his hand on his mouth, fidgeting… those are all signs of him being nervous and uncomfortable, of having to relive all the things he went through. Plus having to sit in a courtroom for 7-9 hours, four days a week, with your abuser, and being interrogated by incompetent lawyers that want you to set you up for failure. You can be the best actor in the world, but you cannot mask genuine traumatic experiences.
this isn’t the first time logan has overlooked really important contributing factors around current situations involving abuse. His reading of Gabby Petito was similarly inconsiderate of the roles that abuse plays in body language. he apologized for that video but i really feel like he hasn’t learned at all to look more closely into what he’s talking about ESPECIALLY in cases involving abuse. talking about current events like this is so sensitive he is able to have some sway in public opinion and i think that’s a responsibility he really needs to take more seriously esp about abuse survivors and neurodivergent people who are already vastly misunderstood for being different.
@@Ray-zy7vb Exactly! He seems to think every person he analyzes is neurotypical, when that’s not the case. He needs to understand that this is a case concerning physical and emotional abuse, as a non verbal analyst he should know that mental health affects non verbal communication heavily, especially when that person is a victim of abuse. He needs to research before going into a case like this, he clearly didn’t here and it just comes off as insensitive and dismissive of someone else’s trauma
Johnny has adhd and anxiety.. And he's an introvert. The trial is long, stressful and brings up a lot of past trauma, ofc he will fidget and stutter in the witness booth. I have adhd and anxiety too... And even if I'm quite extroverted I would do exactly the same as he did if I was in his situation. There's a lot of things going on in my brain, so it takes a little while to find the memories and formulate the sentences. Amber on the other hand shows no emotion whatsoever during all that time. But people believe her because she's a female 🤦🏻♀️ Her lawyer (Elaine i think?) is so aggressive as well..
It is difficult to break that down because as his doctor testified, he has ADHD, anxiety and PTSD. He also smokes, drinks and maybe takes a cocktail of medication. Being on the spotlight would exhaust him and make him fidgety and act " out of character or what we consider normal.
@@francescawilliams8177 He testified yesterday that he no longer takes prescription drugs because he doesn't want to go through the pain of detoxing again.
@@mdnblues he could be taking any number of medications one would not “detox” from. Did they discuss this? Medications for ADHD, PTSD, anxiety can all be non-addictive/habit forming and in fact treating those with other medications then benzodiazepines can be more effective. I couldn’t find that testimony.
@@mdnblues he said he didn’t want to take the medication he got addicted to. The name of it alludes me right now but he didn’t say all medication. He said that specific medication and meds like it.
What you call “manipulation factors” many people who’ve received trauma call ptsd, trauma responses, and anxiety in a situation where your trauma is being questioned.
Hello there Trust this message meets you well. In my sadness, I hoped for happiness, in sorrow I bore a smile & that is because of YOU, my ever loyal Depphead. Thank you for standing with me through my trial. I’ll like you to send me a message -/telegram/- using my Endeavor to add your name to the text so I can single your message out.i don't reply unsolicited messages. Warm Regards JD
I keep seeing the excuse of “all actors can lie!”.. and all I can think the entire time is.. there are entire channels and videos dedicated to watching how bad of a liar Tom Holland is.
I feel it's important to note that with official diagnosis' of PTSD - especially C-PTSD - how deep a sense of shame is just for existing. It's present even if you're not guilty. It's definitely a skew in the direction of "keeping your head down" for a baseline. Also the ADHD fidgeting and sometimes odd reactions to certain things. I'm very curious to see you continue to dissect this one!
@@katieandnick4113 C-PTSD is regularly discussed for going into the DSM. It is just reasonably slow going as there's a long process to getting any new diagnosis in. Even if C-PTSD isn't currently accepted as an official diagnosis and subset/type of PTSD. PTSD *is* in the DSM, and currently covers everything that can be considered Complex PTSD. Obviously his full medical history is confidential, but it's fairly well known that he has the PTSD diagnosis, and I think it's a very important note when looking at body language patterns.
@@katieandnick4113 it’s in the process of being entered into the DSM but as a relatively concept it takes time - however it is recognised and people are diagnosed with it - myself included. Things don’t just happen overnight. Note: I’m not in America, I’m in Ireland (in case that has any relevance)
@@waltzingmatilda9092 your therapist/psychiatrist may have diagnosed you with it, but if they are billing insurance, they have to use different codes. A common code(s) for people with C-PTSD is a combination of BPD and PTSD. And sadly, it is not the case that C-PTSD is going to be added to the DSM. The APA is owned by oligarchs, who benefit from Americans not understanding trauma disorders. Childhood trauma isn’t even a diagnostic criteria for BPD, which is absolutely bonkers. And in fact, I would not be surprised in PTSD was removed from the DSM entirely, when they make the next revision.
I do not think he did what his ex says. She seems to always be adding things to what he supposedly did to her. I feel sorry that he has to go through this. Just sad.
All the "manipulators" that were mentioned Johnny Depp has always done. I've never seen an interview were he's not constantly fidgeting or touching his mouth. Don't you usually do a baseline for people
i’m just another person with adhd telling you that what you’re calling manipulators are just simply him fidgeting and not being able to sit still. many of the things he was doing like scratching and touching his lips were things i was also doing as i was watching this video, on the couch, by myself, trying to pay attention to what you were saying.
Manipulators are not meant to be somehow saying that he is manipulating people. It is literally just a more scientific name for fidgeting or specific movements.
I feel that being an actor does not even give you half enough control over your non verbal communication to convincingly lie in an emotional situation you’re engaged in. Mind that to display emotions the best is to feel them, so in acting you do not play the role you live the role. Thats a problem I have with this video. Rather be suspicious of people who are truly detached of their emotions and reality, thinking of psychopathic, sociopathic and narcissistic behavior tendencies in people. I think Depp just displays distress rather than anything else or to look further for anything else.
Fair enough, though I think Logan's point is that, being an actor, it does mean you have control over enough of your nonverbal communication to where it is something people have to keep in mind. Now remember, literally the first part of this video was spent him explaining that acting is a different mental process than lying off-stage. So it's not Logan reading psychopathic/sociopathic/narcissistic tendencies onto people but rather acknowledging that, out of a population, the people who'd be better at understanding what nonverbal cues mean what emotion would be actors. That, and I think it's kind of harmful to sit there and immediately jump to the conclusion that this video is implying that Depp has such tendencies. People being able to control their nonverbal cues doesn't automatically mean they're a psychopath. I do agree that Depp is probably just in distress, and his ADHD and other mental stuffs is coming through here. I just think you're looking wayy too deep into a 14 minute video that more or less is an introductory video to establish some things. Like the acting element, _especially_ since it was brought to light in the case itself.
You're quite right! It doesn't. On the contrary, as anyone who has done full-time drama school training knows, learning to act well is actually un-masking yourself and learning to be able to strip yourself of the social conditioning we all are affected by that leads us in real life to mask or cover our true private feelings. You'd be amazed how much we all required to lie in every day life in order to be acceptable in society. But, in order to be convincing as a character on screen, where everyone can see every thought and twitch of the face, to be able to show true emotions and authentic reflexes in public, in order to make an audience empathise with you and tell a convincing story you can't *pretend* you have to learn to access genuine feelings. To tell the truth within a set of fictional (or historical) circumstances. Audiences can sniff lying a mile away - you don't call it lying it in that context, you call it "hammy" or bad acting, but it comes from the actor faking it, or not showing their true authentic responses on screen. This is also why so many great actors appear to be playing a version of themselves across many films, they're not, they're just amazing at being authentic on screen/stage. It always baffles me that people expect good actors to be good liars. It's quite the opposite. After intensive acting training it becomes much harder to lie or mask, to the point where actors are often thought of as blunt or rude (or egoic) in every day conversation. Some are, but some of it just comes from drama training and acting experience removing the people-pleasing filter/ability to tell white lies to be polite...
There are hours of recorded fights between Depp and Heard on RUclips. It's so crystal clear what a manipulative and abusive POS she is. Unless it's upsetting to you to listen to fighting I suggest giving it a go.
Yes, JD is an actor--- HOWEVER, watching his movies since his Bull was a pup, one can see his tics, self soothing, etc, many times upon the screen, but I'm sorry, I must disagree with a few of your observations--- I think you give him a more "devious" and calculating summation than he deserves. Those clips are NOTHING compared to the previous last days of testimony, where he speaks of familial abuse, where he speaks of the abandonment of his father, the death of his mother, and his true regret of what can never be ( as far as the future he had hoped for with Ms. Heard ), what has happened that can never be repaired, his losses, and the huge "falling out of Love" Ms. Heard apparently experienced with Mr. Depp. Please, be better prepared ( tho I'll give you, 6/7 days of material is overWHELming ) , and see Mr. Depp's depths. Thank you... PS--- hope your internet issues are resolved soon!!!
The lawyer is talking about him “beating her” and you say he has a look of contempt?!?! Absolutely NOT! His body language is clear as day to me! He is completely uncomfortable and self soothing due to anxiety and shame, etc. He looks totally innocent.
Glad no one breaks down my body language or else I'd always seem suspicious since I have social anxiety and become extremely hyper aware of myself and my surroundings during the social situations. I start to dissociate. I do all kinds of things to try and calm myself down, and to someone who "thinks" they can read body language, they'd assume I was lying or deceptive or whatever else. Humans are not always that easy to read without knowing the full picture and background of that specific person.
Couldn't he just be highly uncomfortable with this entire issue? I saw a young girl do all these touching her hair and mouth when the cc machine stopped working at the bagel shop she was working in and the line was getting backed up.
Oh, I hope your planning an update of AH on the stand while she is testifying.... I would LOVE to hear what you have to say about her during this "performance"
I really hope that you take apart both Johnny's and Amber's testimonies. I'm watching Amber's right now, and it just doesn't feel right. Even if I didn't watch your channel and know of signs to look for, the way she's retelling things just doesn't feel right. I'm seeing a lot of examples of Duper's delight while she's talking, the way she speaks and is sitting is telling of her attitude towards all this, she has a moment where she's fake crying and her emotions shift very quickly, and she adds way too much information to her stories.
There is so much actual proof that covers Amber's lies (videos, voice recordings, text messages, her being violent toward her ex in the past, pictures of her ''injuries'' vanishing within hours). & there is only ''he said, she said'' when it comes to Johnny's ''mistakes''. I just don't get why this bs keeps getting dragged out so much. Furthermore I don't get why he lost his jobs, while nobody fires Amber from her jobs.
this. he seems to believe the narrative that they both abused each other, but all the "evidence" AH has is clearly very suspect. the entire narrative around this is so uncomfortable. and it kills that Johnny has lost roles when he is such an incredible actor and she is just not. in his testimony you see just how much effort and value he put into creating his roles. the double standard is gross. but Hollywood loves to protect abusers while shutting down the abused
Doesn’t he have ADHD? I know sometimes I’ll space out because of the ADHD due to anxiety in social situations and I’ll fidget when I realize I’ve spaced out. I’ll also just fidget when I forget I’m trying not to fidget. The fidgeting will get worse and I’ll grab at my face and mouth if I’m actively trying not to fidget in a specific way such as tapping things or anything that might make noise or cause a distraction.
I am a fan of Johnny Depp, and I also happen to be a woman of the same age. His behavior has been consistent throughout his life. He has never had a reputation as a problematic person in his private life or career. The Me Too movement was supposed to show how prevalent sexual harassment and assault are in our society. It was never meant to be accusations of specific crimes. We have something called due process. If her testimony in court is accurate, she should have gone to the authorities, and I believe her assistants and personal medical staff would have demanded it. She was not alone. Strangulation, being shoved and grabbed, plus being sexually assaulted by fingers and objects leave more than a couple of marks on your face. It usually lands you in the hospital, just like Johnny's finger landed him in the hospital.
This new setup is so fun! I especially love the hovering lightbulb lol I thought it was an optical illusion for a sec (or it might be and I’m just visually challenged 😅) Welcome back, and thanks for covering this!
i think it realy is floating! i know there's real hover lamps ppl can purchase (overwatch sold one for a bit) and i think it's one of those!! they typically spin
You need to take into account that he is a person who has experienced severe abuse, most likely has PTSD and possibly damage from the drug use so it’s not so easy to just read body language without taking this into account
Agreed. Also, I've seen people say that him looking down can be guilt. It seems to me he avoids looking at her as more in a gentleman type way. Like doesn't want to seem intimidating, Sort of giving her the freedom to hang hersel., I mean speak freely.
He’s an anxious introverted that was a victim of abuse as a child. Same for me. I recognize a lot of things he’s doing because I do them myself. Also, her lawyers are very unprepared, know they don’t have a case, and seem to be making shit up as they go along. I’m sure he’s a combination of disgusted and thinking about how dumb they sound.
I really hope you look into Amber as well, including her outfit choices because it's been brought up by some psychiatrists on TikTok that it looks like she's trying to "mirror" his previous days looks as a show of intimidation. I'm not saying he's 100% completely innocent but at his age with the number of relationships he's been in if he had a pattern of abuse this bad something would have come out. It should also be considered that he was abused as a child and has his own mental health issues and trauma so the jitters could be contributed to that. I know I have anxiety and PTSD and if I were in court there's no way in hell I would be sitting still.
Hello there Trust this message meets you well. In my sadness, I hoped for happiness, in sorrow I bore a smile & that is because of YOU, my ever loyal Depphead. Thank you for standing with me through my trial. I’ll like you to send me a message -/telegram/- using my Endeavor to add your name to the text so I can single your message out.i don't reply unsolicited messages. Warm Regards JD
Ooh, I may have missed the announcement that you were moving! Now it makes sense. I hope everything goes smoothly going forward and that your hand heals quickly!
As a woman, a member of the human species and I'll claim the streets too, we do not claim Amber. She's a disgrace to actual victims.
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Y’all claim everything your exes did is toxic masculinity for all men. Keep that same energy sis.
I think she has BPD and NPD. Very dangerous mix.
@@PatricenotPatrick I'm not sure why you keep commenting stuff like this but it seems like you want some kind of validation and not because you actually care about what you are saying. You mention toxic masculinity in your other reply even though both comments you replied to weren't talking about toxic masculinity.
She's exactly like my half-sister. I witnessed her trying to break down the bathroom door to attack her child's father, but I heard later that she told my mom that he was the one who did it. She might even believe her own lies, I don't know.
I'm a body language expert too. JD's facial expressions say to me "What a pile of BS. I've never heard such a load of crap before.'
At least you see it!
I really want to know why Amber Heard has been wearing the exact same outfits that Depp has worn on previous days in the trial. It baffles me. Not body language but still behavioral I guess haha
She's still abusing him to this day. The copying of the outfits and hairstyles on her part is intentional, she's trying to intimidate him and to show him who has "the upper hand".
It's a form of abuse. To try to intimate him.
How does she know what he's going to wear?
@@xcobmi what he has worn PREVIOUSLY she copied after.
@@42Ccastro oh, I overlooked that part. Thanks for clarifying!
Talking of being honest, how has this case come so far with no evidence of any kind of physical abuse?
So he cussed at someone?
This is about actually physical abuse that leaves plenty of evidence, of which we’ve seen none at all??
All we need is photo’s & medical report & he’s guilty!
But nothing?? Nothing at all? Your dragged over broken glass? You’d have glass embedded in your body,severe cuts that would need stitching!!!
WTF is going on?
Just no evidence???
At all?🤨
The lawsuit isn't even about abuse. The lawsuit is whether her article about being an abuse victim (without naming Depp) CAUSED him to lose work. He lost that case in the UK. It was shown in court he had 12 cases of abuse against Amber.
I am not on Amber's side here but people on the internet are really being confused about what the trial is about.
Exactly!
You wanna know whats worse?
There is recorded evidence of AMBER being the abuser
When she admitted on a recording (made by herself) that she was hitting Jhonny and he wasn't fighting back
i really cannot figure out how she has no obvious photos, no witnesses, no medical records, no police witnesses, etc. etc. The kind of abuse she is reporting would necessitate medical treatment and there would be practitioners who could testify to that. i've been open to the truth being somewhere in the middle of these two sides, but i absolutely cannot figure out why there is no evidence of the severe physical abuse she is reporting.
Interesting how the so called specialist didn't pick up the anxiety that comes from looking down on the floor and fidgeting all over the place. This is why I don't believe this guy who claims to be a body analyst as he clearly has no idea what he is talking about as this woman doesn't look uncomfortable to be in the same room as him she can be seen to be smiling, smug and doesn't at all appear to be scared of Johnny at this point which doesn't correlate to actual domestic abuse victims behaviours even years after the break up or trial. All you do with this channel is add more fuel to the controversies or cases and sticks to whoever seems to be on the winning side.
I'm so confused on why Amber keeps wearing his outfits the following days?! WEIRDO
Love the colors for the set up!! Hope your hand gets better soon!!
Thanks for this analysis it was really interesting to hear your perspective
I appreciate the the lack of bias you're portraying. This is a complicated situation and I like that I can finally get a less biased take on some of it.
I hope you do more on this trial! There should be A LOT to work with!
With all of the PTSD from childhood trauma and going through all of this I would be uncomfortable also. He has said in the past he is not good out in public unless it's in character. He has always self soothed or looked shy through his whole career. He is a very humble person that doesn't really like the attention.
Especially when he is totally sober, I've seen that a lot in substance-users before - they just feel more insecure without their drugs. With all the intimate details of his past rolled out in public (some which he certainly is not proud of), while literally everyone is watching (including his family members), yeah, that's emberassing and shameful. I myself could not even imagine to be in the same room with someone who abused me, let alone react approbriate.
Which makes her accusation in their recorded argument, that he never self soothes, all the more interesting.
@@gabrielefried3853 not to mention the mental anguish of having to sit there and listen to your abuser turn the abuse around on you. That has to be so stressful.
Depp🖤
Exactly what i was thinking
Omg Amber's Ex Assistant was just brilliant to watch testify. She was blunt af & was not going to put up with Amber's lawyer's shenanigans & called him out repeatedly👏🏻😆 . I highly recommend watching!
Definitely my favorite testimony so far!
This!
I liked her testimony and her bluntness, she was like all business, no bullshit.
Also JD:s best friend gave a good testimony and was able to tell the stories in a way you can imagine the situations as they were happening
YES!!
Do you have a link? x
@@lindsay-siantrehearne2079 let me know pls!
I really love your analysis but I think it's important to know that Johnny has diagnosed ADHD. It's very difficult for us to look at somebody while listening so we usually look down to processes auditory information. He has anxiety as well and has always seemed very shy in the spotlight unless it's in character so that's important. Fidgeting, self soothing and stimming is almost impossible NOT to do and he's unfortunately a chain smoker forced to keep away from that for hours.
Good analysis but I think that's important to take into note😊
Yes! My daughter does this (add). It can be really frustrating, but she processes better when doing so.
I have diagnosed ADHD and I don't self soothe with gestures.
@@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend that's fine but most of us do. Not everybody ofc but everyone experiences ADHD differently anyway
Never knew about the ADHD so that’s interesting to know. The rest I can understand that he would have that considering what he’s going through. Even more understandable now after he’s pretty much displayed every detail of his life.
@@EllaJay When a person has Adhd they sometimes take longer to process/think about what they are going to say or do, especially when they are in the spotlight. They also sometimes focus on certain things that other people overlook. Another symptom is that they can easily forget things no matter how much they are reminded about. Anxiety also worsens these symptoms, which is one of the reasons why some people with ADHD are tense. These are just some of the symptoms I can name off of the top of my head, my boyfriend has ADHD and recently started taking medication. But then again, everyone has different symptoms and acts differently upon it, I highly recommend that your daughter gets a check up to see whether or not she has it. It helps you understand and communicate better with them :)
I love your videos, but you really should have looked into his public medical issues such as his ADHD and anxiety for SOME of his movements. However I want an overall review of her behavior vs his. Especially abuser vs victim. She is trying to manipulate him. Her staring him down and coming in the next day dressed like him and his hiding and angling his face away from her. She is still trying to exert control. That is abusive behavior
His doctor showed that he's diagnosed with ADHD Bipolar 1 and Anxiety. As well as the fact that he's a chain smoker and he's unable to smoke while sitting there for long hours. These are big factors.
That’s a long day for someone with adhd. We need fidgets. Also, I’ve noticed I look down to listen to people in order to process what I’m hearing.
The not being able to smoke is probably really difficult for him. Especially since emotions are high for him.
@@pickleknits3675 I absolutely cannot maintain eye contact and listen.
@@pickleknits3675 I'm the same way. I have to do something with my hands in order to process auditory information. ♥
. .🍃 ..does he chain smoke cigarettes, do you know ?
It really says a lot about Johnny's character when his own ex-wife spoke on his behalf and said that Johnny never laid a finger on her in anger in all the years they were married
It reminds me of Mel Gibson and Oksana Grigorieva's relationship, some people should not be together. Never heard of Mel's first wife saying anything bad about him either.
@@angelabrolund1373 that’s a great point- some people just push each other’s buttons. Just because Johnny allegedly didn’t hit Vanessa doesn’t mean he didn’t hit Amber. Maybe Vanessa was mellow AF and Amber was feisty and argued back.
Also- it probably didn’t hurt that most of the time Johnny was in cali and Vanessa was in Europe. Further, most of Johnny’s rages stem from his jealousy about him
Believing Amber was having an affair. Amber went out and was an actress. If Vanessa always stayed home on the French countryside there was less opportunity to enrage Johnny
@@Puglover130 I would hope he defended himself when Amber instigated.
@@Puglover130 people don’t become violent over night, she’s the psycho.
@@Puglover130 IDK my dad was jealous of my mom so I saw it a lot. I don't think it would matter because Vanessa was in a whole other country 1000s of miles away would still make him go off. it might be true they were like oil and water but also Heard has several people saying she was abusive so maybe she's toxic af and he's a victim. I look forward to seeing what all comes out this trial.
The fact that throughout this entire trial, Amber has somehow been matching his outfits and then sits FACING him, almost as if it’s meant to intimidate him, while he looks down and is paying attention to what is happening speaks volumes.
It's called mirroring. It's a narcissistic trait. She did it when she was first with him and throughout their relationship. I think she's doing now for 2 reasons 1) it makes people talk and 2) it's creepy af and makes Johnny uncomfortable
YESSSSSSS! LIKE INDIRECTLY TELLING HIM "I AM WATCHING YOU" TRYNA GET POWER IN SIMPLE WAYS.
Mirroring isn't just a narcissistic trait, everyone mirrors. It's how we show we're interested and make connections. The way she's doing it is manipulative though bc she's doing it on purpose to send a message and intimidate him. She's telling him she's still in control.
She is a narcissist, no doubt. She thought she won the lottery when he married her. I think he is the more pliable, nay innocent person in this narcissistic union.
@@juliefisk8066 i don't believe this is mirroring, but it does sound like she's trying to intimidate him. Mirroring is a very subconscious thing (however can be done intentionally) when we take on similar/same behaviors and body language of those we are around in the moment. It typically shows that we are interested in the people around us. People actually tend to do it around their crushes especially.
Does it occur to you that it could be “aggravating” and require “self soothing” to relive the worst point of your life; which he, admittedly, chose to do, because he had no choice. Like he said, the minute the article came out; he lost; regardless of how the trial ends. He just wants the truth out there; even if not everyone believes it. I, as an experienced trial attorney, can tell you I believe every word he’s said.
Hes extremely genuine, especially now that we’re hearing her side 🤡
As an attorney; you sure do use; a lot of semicolons; JS What school you graduated from? 🎓 Semicolons are used when a sentence isn't finished lol 😆 Doesn't look like you went to law school. 🤣 My son when he was 5 years old could write better than you. Btw I do RUclips as well. I'm so sick of these, "influences" acting like they have a degree! You have a degree in RUclips. Otherwise, you would have a real law firm to practice in. And would know how to spell correctly 🙄 Considering judges read your notes.. you should already be inclined to know how to write. That's what law school is for. Lol this is hilarious.
Thank you for that comment, Devin! I believe him and believe NOTHING Amber says-she seems wayyyyy off!
Casey, respectfully; with your capitalization skills and such-what school did YOU graduate from? “IJS” 🙄
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Man... I have to say, Observe, I am quite disappointed with your lack of or unwillingness to include Johnny Depp's confirmed diagnoses of ADHD, Anxiety, and Bipolar disorder in your assessment. And I'd be very interested to see how, factoring into account those diagnoses, that would affect your observations when it comes to his "self-soothing" and "manipulators".
This is why he relies on a baseline though. It's not like the baseline doesn't include these issues.
@@brittneysillito827 Well he never mentioned taking them into account, not even when they were most relevant. So no, he didn't account for it in the baseline.
@@brittneysillito827 You’re forgetting the baseline he’s likely using is for a neurotypicals, when neurodivergent people literally have completely different brain chemistry, to the point where natural stimulators act to slow things down in people with things like ADHD. Given how harsh his criticisms were and seemingly not taking into account the fact that constant fidgeting and self-soothing gestures are a natural part of ADHD, especially when in a boring room for hours no matter the context watched by thousands if not millions, hardly even taking into account his anxiety and bipolar disorder, it seems suspiciously like he’s ignoring these important factors. Considering Observe has a history of ignoring these sorts of important behaviours and treating everyone as if they were neurotypical from what I’ve read, it ain’t a good thing.
@@kittensareawesome2789 I have found that observe is quite dismissive of neurodivergent traits in general, I've had a break from watching his content as it made me feel ashamed from some of his assessments. I have adhd and can't help some of the weird reactions my body has so ND traits defo need taking into consideration more
@@michellewhittle8618 Yeah, that’s a problem he desperately needs to address. Especially because it’s throwing off his accuracy by an absolutely colossal margin.
I know that you're only analyzing what you can see here but it has to be mentioned that AH is continuing to manipulate him and play mind games with him DURING this trial by copying his clothes. She's doing it every single day, wearing the exact same outfit he wore the day prior. It's her last power move she has left and she's damn well using it. Right down to the Gucci bee pin he wore on his black tie (along with his all black suit) on day one that she wore on day two. THE SAME ALL BLACK SUIT AND GUCCI BEE PIN ON HER TIE.
Imagine trying to keep your head together while your abuser is mocking you from across the courtroom.
I'm sorry, what the fuck?? I really hope Logan learns of that for the next video cause that's a clear power move and shouldn't sit right with anyone. What the hell.
the other day he had a ponytail and yesterday she showed up with a ponytail to...
Oh my godess ! Thank you so much for pointing this out.
I thought I was going a bit crazy because I've not seen others mention this.
"Imagine trying to keep your head together while your abuser is mocking you from across the courtroom." This made me smile. My first reaction was: Well, that is how life usually goes. I am about to go to work, see some people who were mocking me yesterday. I decided to take the high road, let the rest of the team see what they see and keep my cool. It is not going to be an easy day. Again.
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who noticed these things.
"They won't believe you, because you're a man."
She is NOT a victim.
Yeah typical abuser manipulation to prevent the victim from leaving. She can not continue to abuse after he leaves. Although she has made a serious effort.
God damn right, she is a special kind of sociopathic narcissistic borderline evil abuser.
Fr, in what situation would a victim say that?!
@@r6ses yep
I'm a man who was wrongly accused of rape many years ago. That being said, I believe Johnny Depp did in fact beat this woman.
i think it’s important to remember that johnny depp is diagnosed with ADHD and the manipulators might just be him moving around and fidgeting lol. i wonder if it makes for an inaccurate read. (also this isn’t hate. i just wanted to make sure you’re aware! i have ADHD & autism. i love your videos because they give me insight on what peoples’ facial expressions and movements might mean, since i don’t always understand them.)
I thought I was weird for watching stuff like this to understand others more... thanks for speaking about it!
I didn't even know about his diagnoses and I guessed that about him. It runs in my family and I might have it as well. I picked up on those gestures immediately.
Oh interesting! That’s a good piece of info to have. It would be interesting to hear Logan talk about how much/if that influences things, or if it’s still just getting the regular baseline he always tries for. Good catch!
I didn't know about that, but that makes a lot of sense. Honestly, a friend of mine has really intense ADHD and no current treatment, and it does sometimes make her act in ways that some people would think odd. I know when she's lying or not at this point (more trying to deny to herself and me that she did something), but someone else who doesn't have that knowledge about her probably couldn't, or they'd be confused by her actions.
He tends to keep diagnoses like that in mind and watches footage of them outside of stressful situations to observe their baseline. Typically fidgeting and movements like this are usually more frequent or broad during high stress situations, but would still be present even at the baseline if only subtly. I do believe Logan has ADHD as well, and his wife is autistic so I know he does try to keep things like that in mind. It’s neat learning that JD has ADHD too, I love learning about actors I’ve always looked up to who have similar divergencies like myself. Thanks for opening up this topic of conversation and bringing awareness to it! Not everyone realizes that the fidgeting and lack of eye contact aren’t always simply deceptive movements! ❤️🌟
I am so happy Depp fought to have this televised. We are witnessing his redemption and the truth about what she said and did. I’m so happy for him and I hope his reputation is being restored in real time
Huge props to Dr. Curry, the forensic psychologist. She was incredibly precise with her words in the cross examination.
My favorite witness after the vaping dude!!
The worst witness in the case. I know two psychologists who agree.
Johnny Depp has always come off as just so humble. And even to this day still. Just looking at Amber you can see something isn’t right. And ESPECIALLY when you watch her on the stand in the previous trial.
Johnny Depp was holding a show at my old work. Whereas most celebrities have security close off the employee outside break area (that’s where celebrities come into the casino), he not only didn’t request that, he hung out with everyone and talked like everyone was old buddies. He was love-bombed by this deceitful nasty woman
I met Johnny back in his 21 Jump Street days. He was so quiet, shy and reserved. He made me feel that his attention was totally on me. He was sweet. Been a fan of his since that. I'm TEAM JOHNNY ALL THE WAY!
@@vickinewby408 yep. See?
I’ve seen interviews of him even from back then, and he was still so humble and intelligent. An interview with him about that show when he was just started. And even then he was so humble and wise about what Hollywood was, And was it was becoming for him. And that’s not what he wanted.
On another note.. I just saw a clip of Amber H complaining in the middle of an interview about being distracted by doors being open and shut. Just a total btch about it. Even if it was for her promoting her own crappy work.
I wish I could have met him. He is one of my heroes.
@@Liz-rf4qu mine too!
@@Liz-rf4qu Well he's still around and hopefully will be for a long time.
Regarding the mouth thing, he is neurodivergent. His social cues are going to be vastly different and easily misinterpreted by those without his developmental disability because of this inherently. This really should have been considered and bringing on someone with his disability to consult would have been a really good idea.
I'd love to see someone with a similar disability chime in this conversation, it'd be interesting (for this trial/story) as well as educational (overall, as as a society we tend to forget about neurodivergent people)
That’s the thing that make me dislike these types of videos because most of the things he says are from a Neurotypical standpoint.
@@LunaSkye64 Me too usually but if memory serves, Logan is himself Neurodivergent so I would imagine if he knows that JD is, he's taking that into consideration.
I just can't agree with most of this. No matter how good an actor you are, as you said, you can't mask genuine traumatic memories or thought processes. Also, JD is well known to be shy and introverted as well as not liking to be centre of attention. He's in court surrounded by cameras broadcasting this to the entire world who will now know all the intimate details of his life. Of course he's agitated. He's uncomfortable and nervous and out of his comfort zone. He also has ADHD and bipolar which makes sitting still difficult. As for his frown it's obvious that he's taken aback by AH's lawyers claims. Considering the whole "dragged her through broken glass, pounded her and penetrated her with a bottle" is the first time this claim has ever been made (it was never mentioned in any other charges or AH's deposition and is entirely new, go figure) no wonder he's shocked and in quiet disbelief and looking for comfort by using soothing motions. I'm not body language expert but I do work in severe mental health where reading body language is important and what you said seems almost a little bias and a mix of overthought, or on the wrong track/harsh.
My exact thoughts, I haven’t been Diagnosed with ADHD but Im a naturally fidgety person and if I was in his position I would be shaking like crazy, you couldn’t stop me from bouncing my leg up and down.
@@owenbridgers ohh boy do i relate to this, i do the leg bouncy thing without even realising sometimes and even when i’m told to stop, i unconsciously do it again a few seconds later 😭
@@owenbridgers I don’t have diagnosed ADHD, but I do have anxiety, and I can never sit still. I would be constantly changing positions, or picking at my skin or something
Thank u 🙏
Not to mention he's a smoker going long periods of time without nicotine on top of all that stress
It's important to remember that reactive abuse is a known phenomenon, and that it's fairly common for abuse victims to eventually snap back at their abusers.
I did. That’s when I knew I needed to get out because I was reacting to his abuse and that’s not who I am so I finally left. People think mutual abuse and reactive abuse are the same thing and they’re not
@@tiffanyrock1185 Definitely not. Mutual abuse is just two toxic people ending up with each other.
Exactly. The abused have been known to kill their abuser, so knowing the depth of the aftermath of what he went through twice, in childhood and with Amber, how else do you expect him to react?
That’s what Amber did
@@nataliec5883 amber is not a victim, she is the abuser
Johnny Depp has confirmed, on the record, medical diagnosis of ADHD, anxiety & bipolar. Does knowledge of these change your thoughts on his body language?
And if he suffers from PTSD and CTPSD it would even more explain his behavior.
I wish he would say an bring this up. Last time he made video like this people told him he hates being in public eye an has ADHD, anxiety, and now we know also confirmed bipolar.
Mixed with his past truama an continues abuse an now probably cptsd it explains ALOT but he never says anything. I get he wants to come off neutral but :/ idk rubs me wrong
As someone with bipolar, anxiety, and CPTSD i have an easy enough baseline for anyone who spends 10 minutes reading me. Disorders don't change that someone will have a baseline, but if there's even a small amount of discomfort or stress there will be spikes all over the place which can be difficult to read because what generally may read as a possible sign of deception may be the individual's way of self soothing or simply a show of "this is getting close to setting off an anxiety attack".
My husband is a psychologist who does most of his work through non-verbal communication, particularly micro-expressions, and knowing what Depp's diagnoses are, along with his baseline (he's generally very awkward and does a lot of self soothing when he's speaking with media, but when he does his Jack Sparrow visits to paediatric wards/hospitals he's totally in character and there's zero show of agitation and self soothing), and from what he's been able to pick up on from both Depp and Heard is that Depp is so far staying true to his patterns, and it's Heard displaying the deception and intimidation strategy.
I hope that helps shed a little light for you.
those are all common..
@@KatiB5587 having cptsd and adhd with further trauma as an adult plus periods of acute depression, what you've said is what I've felt about these two all along. The way Depp faces the judge, not Heard is consistent too. Heard positions herself to easily see both Depp and the judge. He matters to her but not her to him.
@observe - are you aware Johnny Depp is diagnosed ADHD? He's neurodiverse, confirmed, & masking/self soothing/fidgeting will impact his baseline - have you factored that into your observations?
EXACTLY!! Thank you for standing up for us 🙏 I really appreciate not always being accused of lying because I’m neurodivergent. I hope everyone takes this into account as well.
yes!! thank you for bringing this up
I was thinking the same... I don't understand how a person with that diagnosis can be measure in a normal person behavior or gestures.
That's the thing, being ND (ADHD/ASD I know more about but certainly tourettes is also a ND neurotype) impacts every aspect of processing and emotional regulation and without a deep understanding of how the neurotype of a person makes them process entirely differently it stands to reason that their non-verbal analysis is based on a *completely* different baseline than neurotypicals.
Source: I'm ADHD + ASD, and work in a multinational bank as a diversity and inclusion officer with a focus on improving our ND-friendliness basically
Yes, I noticed this without even knowing of his diagnosis until I saw this comment. Surely they would be able to notice it too, right?
Considering that I was doing all the same "self-soothing" and "manipulators", not to mention the leg jiggles, hair/ear tugging/pulling, finger tapping, etc., while watching this on 1.5 speed because the lawyers kinda droned on, please remember to include Depp's neurodivergencies (ADHD, bipolar, anxiety) in your observations because things like ADHD take all a neurotypical's behaviors and throws 'em straight outta window.
Yes! After watching a few videos of his and while I love them I really wish he put a declaimer or something that mental illness has you act differently with tells.
Can confirm as somebody with ADHD and anxiety (as well as C-PTSD) I always got bullied for "acting weird" and fidgeting
As someone with social anxiety I agree. I fidget and self soothe a lot
The term "manipulator" in this sense feels wrong to me anyway. Like, isn't manipulation expressed with intent...usually? How are unconsciousness behaviors intentionally "manipulative"?
@@somberlo In a lot of previous videos, Logan clarifies that when the word "manipulator" is used in body language analysis, it means "handle, control, or move with the hands" and just refers to the physical act of movement, not an emotional or psychological manipulation. It doesn't mean that someone is "being manipulative".
When Johnny was discussing his childhood there are moments where you can see him slightly rocking himself. You could tell that he was tormented as child. It's amazing that he survived AH and didn't OD. It's also nice to see his concern for his children. What a complicated life for anyone to survive.
You really ought to do some research on inter generational trauma if you believe someone can come out of a childhood like that and not develop a personality disorder.
@@katieandnick4113 I am a survivor of child abuse at the hands of my father. I in no way was diminishing Johnny but rather praising him.
@@Pauleysteph right; but he does have ASPD, because of his childhood trauma, and that means that he’s almost always, or always, going to be the more abusive one in a relationship. Even if that abuse is not physical, but psychological, it’s more damaging than the types of abuse women with trauma disorders inflict on their spouse/partner. Please consider that, due to your childhood, your intuition has been broken or damaged. Coming from the vanishingly rare place of having experienced no childhood trauma, I’m better able to look at these situations objectively. It’s crucial that we understand how very differently girls experience childhood trauma, and how very differently that trauma manifests in them as teens and adults. This actually reminds me a lot of the Will Smith/Jada Pinkett Smith dynamic, and how Will has been placed into the “only victim” role, even though he’s been psychologically torturing Jada their entire relationship. Most men with ASPD are not criminals. Most men with ASPD never get diagnosed. I actually think I have figured out why society seems to be inclined to blame women when there is a relationship dynamic of ASPD male and BPD female, or even codependent female(though this is less common). We naturally hold women to a higher standard, which I think is understandable. When children are abused by their fathers, they will always blame their mothers for not protecting them, and in some cases, even participating in the abuse. As the girls grow up, they punish themselves, as a proxy of their mother, and as the boys grow up, they punish women, as a proxy of their mother. When people who have been abused as children are looking in on a relationship like Johnny’s and Amber’s, they are also inclined to blame the woman, again, as a proxy of their mother. Inter generational trauma causes women to lose all of the wonderful “powers”, or rather, cognitive functions, they are born with, including their intuition and their empathy. I’ve read so many comments from people, especially women, saying terrible things about Amber, and it’s almost as if they are taking out a personal grievance with her. That’s not empathy. If you can’t see that she’s not only a victim of Johnny’s, but also a victim of her parents’, then your intuition and empathy don’t work the way they’re supposed to in women. To be clear, I do feel very badly for Johnny, due to the abuse he suffered during childhood. But please consider that a man who was physically abused by his mother, and possibly had a codependent father, or father with NPD who simply gave up(NPD is more likely, as a codependent man would never just leave his children with an abusive mother), can never have a healthy relationship with women. He will always be looking to punish his partner, because she represents his mother. I don’t remember if we ever heard about abuse during his relationship with Vanessa Paradis, but if not, that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. That only means she didn’t talk about it, which is a sign she was a codependent rather than a childhood trauma victim. Codependents don’t report, especially the men.
@@katieandnick4113 thank you for you opinion. I do not consider myself broken and have worked hard to be a balanced person. That being said, when I want to support AH I will commit on a page designed for her. Might I suggest that you consider a less aggressive form of "information", especially focusing on not diminishing or belittling others for their opinions and/or experiences. I can and will praise whomever I chose for improvements and/or accomplishments they have made. In that, you can lift someone up without punishing them for where they still fall short. I never said that JD was perfect, none of us are. You need to consider your owe prejudgements and stop reading things into comments believing that the person leaving those comments are uneducated, inexperienced, or down right dumb. I will no longer respond to you as I will not engage with a person who decides to teach me something without knowledge of what I do or do not know, or submit myself to someone that wants to treat me with disrespect.
I thought the same. Trauma creates great actors. It's actually tragic and we love that they make us laugh. I hope he finds real peace. It's sad what happened to Robin Williams. He seems to be surrounded by some dark people or demons. I wish him wellness.
For the love of chocolate cake, it is obvious to anyone who has been a victim of domestic violence to soothe themselves when their abuser is in the same room and when their name is mentioned. Johnny was soothing not using manipulation techniques.. Males are victims of domestic violence too..
I’d like to see you do some analyses on people with severe anxiety disorders, and ADHD, ASD, OCD etc.
I have a severe anxiety disorder, and I’m always biting my hand, touching my face/ neck, and so much of the time, my mind has spiraled into some insane scenarios while holding a conversation.
The nature of anxiety is that people think of stuff that disturbs them so I’d like to see how that comes through in body language.
Absolutely. I do the same...
I'm on disability for various psych issues.
I watched a polygraph video the other day and laughed because I would even fail things like "favourite color".
I feel guilty for shit OTHER ppl do, ffs!
So, I too would love to see analysis of someone who is known to have psychological problems and how to even find a baseline!
ive been saying this forever. it really changes how people are "REad" by body language analysts. its like "do your research into the persons neurocondition and see if it changes. research into how ADHD or anxiety or bipolar is shown. Cuz you know if we (neurodivergent ppl) ever get pulled into an interrogation we are immediately going to jail
@@cobrachai Borderline, Bipolar, ADHD, Neuro-divergent here👈🏾👈🏾👈🏾
Yeah, I'm pretty well fucked no matter what I say.
Same here. I have social anxiety
Just for the record. As everyone mentioned Johnny being neuro divergent. Something he has also been doing in court is sketching in a notepad. That is surely evidence of his ADHD and anxiety issues causing many micro displays across his face and body movements/gestures. People with those conditions have a tendency to show ‘thought processing’ on their face. You can see it when he is recalling things after a witness mentions something in the past.
everyone shows thought processing. Not only people. All the time. It is rather about how you put it on display. And this is very much conscious display of controlled, reduced emotion. You never sit in freeze position with laidback look. You gotta know what your muscles do and what your appearance need to look like to stay in such a position for that long.
@@legnivetz true but people with some “extra” issues shall we say tend to be a little extra in general - in well, everything…. Probably why he’s such a great actor ect.
There is no way that is 'surely evidence' of adhd or anxiety and I say this as someone who has both. People of all types do this. It takes a bit more than that.
As a neurodivergent, I have lots of random tics and twitches if I have to sit still
Its more i think because he is a creative person. So more user of the right side of the brain. I´m too. So if i have to stay with focus on my left brain for so many hours, i will have to go to my right brain, that its my normal, to center, balance and be more be. In my way. More colected. Its like watering a plant.
He is genuine, a very shy and calm person. He is telling the truth. Justice for Johnny, from Argentina.
He's on the spectrum and needs music and drawing to focus. He's a wonderful and misunderstood person and I hope he knows how loved he truly is. Justice for Johnny!
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@@dethmetelchik you don’t know that he’s on the spectrum.. he’s just a very unique and creative person.
don't know many "wonderful, shy, calm" people who hurl glass bottles & cups when angry or talk about raping their SO's dead body. Not saying that I think Amber is innocent here but lets not fool ourselves, he clearly has some violent tendencies
@@Shayne_T Johnny has ADHD.
His movements are actually a good representation of how people with ADHD can act while having to sit still. I myself is diagnosed with it and never saw myself as hyperactive but then realised how I just have to move somehow more often than other people.
Why are there dozens of people repeating the exact same talking points lol
i usually agree with most of what you’re saying but i think you’re missing a lot of key points as to why johnny acts the way he does. maybe im biased cause i love johnny but i think it might be important to do some research
The finger across the mouth is something I’ve seen before. When my stepfather was being verbally abusive to my mother, she would put her finger across her mouth just like Johnny Depp. She was hurt, disappointed and embarrassed. Every time he was abusive she would do that. When I saw Johnny Depp do that, it reminded me of the dark times of my childhood.
Yes! Almost a "I need to keep my mouth shut so that my abuser doesn't get mad at me too" gesture. So sorry that you had to live in an abusive situation, friend.
I am so sorry for you going through that as well as your mom’s situation. I agree with you that Depp has been abused and should get justice.
I do this as well, it is my soother, especially since i got bit in the face by a dog, and before that i used to just cover half my face..
Yeah, when I saw Johnny do that it was like looking in a mirror. It happens every time my mother or sister raises her voice towards me and I instantly knew what it meant for him. I hope he gets justice
I do the same thing when I don't want anyone seeing my emotions. It could be positive or negative emotion. I cover my mouth like that when I'm about to cry but same thing happen when I start smiling at some stupid joke.
I've got ADHD and ASD, lots of his gestures are similar to things I might do to self soothe, or do just as a normal baseline even, especially during stressful events where I'm unable to get up and move.
Please, PLEASE, when you assess things like this keep their diagnosis in mind. I love your content, but this isn't the first time your analysis has completely ignored valid mental health diagnosis that can change these sorts of things.
EDIT:Wow, RUclips dropped the ball on the notifications. So, uh, I guess thanks for the likes! And for those of you annoyed about people "making a diagnosis their identity" or "sharing their diagnosis and saying Depp does the same", just shove off.
I spoke for myself and my experience alone, there was no 'we' though I'm grateful to see I'm not alone. I can't separate my diagnosis from who I am because they've been with me since birth, they helped shape me. I am not JUST my diagnosis, but neither can I ignore the significant impact they've had.
this!!!
Same! I have ADHD and do all these things when I'm stressed and can't get up and move around.
As someone else who is autistic and has ADHD as well, I can also testify to this. I can be extremely fidgety if I can't keep my hands busy while listening to someone or something. My anxiety can also make this worse in a stressful situation as it has led to panic attacks in the past. These things are super important to take into account for body language and facial readings.
Another thing, I personally end up doodling a lot while listening to anything because it's the best way for me to channel nervous energy, so even if he's doing something that might seem like he's not paying attention, it could just be a way to channel that nervous energy that isn't super disruptive. Obviously no expert myself, but thought that might be helpful to point out since I saw some mentions of him doodling on a notepad at some points.
YES
I'm also AuDHD and I couldn't agree more, I was debating writing my own comment about it. I love Logan's content but a lot of the things said in this video made me kind of disappointed because I make expressions and movements identical to these displayed by Johnny, just as a regular everyday baseline. I think he really needs to take these things into consideration because as a ND, these things are literally WHO WE ARE and affect everything we do. You just can't analyze us the same as you would anybody else.
Anyways thank you for your comment, I was glad to see it.
Logan I'm glad this video is short because it gives you a chance to reassess for next time if you choose cover more of this case. He has ADHD as well as some other stuff (see all the other comments highlighting this lol) which makes your points about his fidgeting, discomfort and "altered state" fall a bit flat and to be honest made me stop watching this video.
A few other commenters have mentioned this but it would be good if you took the above into account (even in a pinned comment) or even justified your expected baseline of someone being neurotypical - it might be that us viewers are missing something and this is just how these analyses are done idk, but this feels like it's misrepresenting such a delicate situation, and casual viewers may not read the comments and instead take this as absolute fact. I really hope you don't take my comment the wrong way, I usually love your videos but this hits very close to home (always hearing "she's fiddling so she must be lying!") and I just feel this could have had a better approach to it 🤷🏼♀️
Agreed!!
I do a lot of the "self-soothing" behaviors Johnny is doing when I am nervous or in a confrontational situation, especially if someone else is speaking on my behalf. I can imagine he just feels very exposed and could even be fearing his ex-wife's reaction to this. If he has been abused by her in the past, it seems completely logical to assume that he could be feeling a bit anxious about the accusations his lawyer is saying about amber, especially when she accuses her of being "the perfect actress" and whatnot. He seems like he is a very reserved person anyway, so having such a confrontational tone in his opening statement could definitely put him on edge.
The ADHD needs to be taken in account. I am ADHD as is my son. I feel sorry for Johnny. Hope he gets justice.
I’m the same! And I’ve believed him since second one! I’m praying for him 🧡🧡🧡
Aww, I didn't know he has ADHD. I like him more. My child has ADHD too.
its hard to watch people analyze his body language (or anyone with ADHD or ASD) because of the different ways they behave.
@@Escapist_007 there are a list of traits and you need to exhibit a specific amount or more of that list constantly. Also there are test you need to take I think.
Fuck the adhd. Dudes terrified. His entire body language radiates submission, fear. I fucking bet if you touched his hand you’d feel his arm shaking. He’s showing g body language of abuse victims. Poor man.
I'm watching day 5 right now and they're now showing both on screen during his witness part and Boy oh Boy she really can't keep her baseline.
Thank you so much for uploading this! I was hoping you'd jump on it. Really, really interesting.
I waited till after day 5 was over to come watch over here
She just keeps adding things to her list that he supposedly did. I do not believe her. I do not think he did any of that stuff to her. She is dragging him through the mud and ruining his life all for attention. It is sad that he has to go through this.
She keeps smirking it drives me crazy!!!
@@jessicapearson9479 listening to her lawyers opening statement about penetration with a bottle? Like that wasn’t mentioned in the U.K. trial was it? I’m certain I would have remembered that 🧐😳
She’s really all over the place… guess this just showcases why she can’t hold a real acting career.
It’s become obvious that one of his coping mechanisms when retelling painful memories is that he has this little smile/laugh.
He did it during his testimony about his mother and in the deposition when he talked about Heard cutting off his finger.
That’s actually something men with ASPD do when they’re uncomfortable for whatever reason.
@@katieandnick4113 Are you actually giving him a diagnosis based on him having this reaction?
@@ninachr I’m not a doctor, so I don’t have to adhere to the Goldwater rule. It’s very important that the general population know what trauma based disorders look like, and since the APA is working so hard to have us not know, people like me, who understand these disorders, need to step up.
@@katieandnick4113 so antisocial personality disorder is trauma based?
@@ninachr oh, absolutely. There is a distinction between ASPD with psychopathy, and ASPD without. Men(only men) are born with different brain chemistry that causes psychopathy. But when it’s only ASPD, it is a result of pretty severe childhood trauma. I think it depends on the natural personality of the child, as to how much abuse can lead to ASPD. All cluster B and cluster C disorders are a result of abuse or neglect during infancy and childhood. Nobody is born a sociopath or a narcissist or a borderline or an avoidant. What’s even more tragic is that, in the DSM, none of these disorders have childhood trauma as a diagnosis criterion. ASPD does require evidence or diagnosis of conduct disorder before age 15, but that’s as deep as it goes. Considering that the APA is owned by oligarchs, and oligarchs profit from traumatized people, I can see why they would want the populace to be as poorly informed about trauma disorders as possible. Not only does the DSM not include C-PTSD(which develops from long term childhood abuse), but I hear they’re thinking about removing PTSD as well. It’s absolutely tragic.
3:14 at this point im kind of wishing i didnt click on the video. right now im watching the case going live (on the days its up) and you can see him TRYING his hardest to be less shy/private about what happened to him. he is the victim after all. hes the one that has the most evidence that shows the "damages" of turds doing. it was the first day and i put alot of his behavior down to "nervous energy" and embarrassment that its had to go this far. he personally has many illnesses besides fighting the addiction that could be counted towards his "issues" (like the depression/ADHD/anxiety/PTSD/C-PTSD) and then the oones of embarrassment/shame/fear of not winning. the anxiety of being the main person on the case would be terrifying.
As someone with a deep understanding of their own ADHD, the first portion, where Johnny's own representative was speaking, looks like an ADHD person semi-dissociating and just idly stimming, not particularly as a response to what's being said. It's very likely that he's heard what his lawyer's opening remarks were going to be on a number of occasions, and his brain simply would not allow him to pay active attention to it. His movements do not appear connected to what is being said, but separate and involved with whatever internal thought's he's engaged with. Likely, he is half-listening, but as a sort of... subconscious recording of what is happening. Most of us can play back the last few seconds of something that we're not actively paying attention to because our brains absorb them in the background. So, he may be semi-hearing it, but not actually engrossed in it.
The second part, however? That looks like someone very much hearing something that they are giving active focus to. Something they've heard for the first time, especially. The reactions you'll get there will be much closer to what you'd expect a neurotypical person to display, although they may actually be even MORE genuine than a neurotypical person. Many autistic and ADHD people are skilled at masking their neurodivergent traits when we intentionally engage with the world... but our private moments are very, very genuine. The second portion seems to be a more private and genuine display from Johnny, not a show he's intentionally putting on to manipulate. He is not attempting to mask, he is simply existing in the moment, and AT MOST, actively remembering to stop from stimming and keep his body as still as possible. But his facial expressions and other small movements? Those appear to not be pre-planned or manipulative as it is taking all of his expendable energy to keep actively listening, and bodily still.
Edit: In true ADHD style, I forgot to mention why this is relevant. Johnny has been diagnosed with ADHD.
Thank you for your input and explanation, this puts the video in better perspective
Yeah his video doesn’t do Johnny justice that he deserves as a survivor myself.
I couldn’t even watch AH so toxic I had to turn away. It’s so much lies. It’s like she has a list of people saying what a liar she is. Everyone defends him because we all feel it and see it.
Logan, could you do an ep around reading the non-verbals of those of us who are Neuro-divergent? Your work is brilliant but everything I’ve looked at on yours, and other non verbal reading practitioners, all seem to be on Neuro typicals and I’m wondering how and if techniques have to change when assessing NDs? Is there research on the non-verbals of NDs?
Thank you x
I love this!!!!
Getting a solid baseline (multiple observations of the person in other settings than the one being studied) is the singular most important thing when trying to interpret the non-verbal signals of anyone, including people who are 'neuro-divergent'. The techniques of analysis remain the same but without a comprehensive baseline the analysis will be flawed.
I’m so happy you did this! I can see myself in Johnny as he acts exactly (or well very similar) how I reacted from my trauma. I smile/laugh, fidget, rubbing my neck, cover my mouth when talking or hearing about something from my past, it’s just because I am uncomfortable and I am nervous as well embarrassed. By the way I adore your new setting!
He’s such a mix of discomfort and did this bih just say that?!
@Nonaya Bidness You just really lump all victims in together there. Careful.
Same here, I just wanna give him a massive hug. I've been dealing with drawn out court cases and being in and out of court for IVO (restraining order) applications, it's awful, stressful, it is triggering and can be traumatizing. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes home, maybe has a cry or even a drink. I personally always end up in hospital when I have a court date, it's awful. I'm disassociating, with depersonalization. This stuff has been dragged out, it's in the public eye and she is just vile doing everything she can to drag his name through the mud. I hope Johnny knows he's not alone, he's supported, loved and believed and heck even those fights that were recorded, you know she's standing over him screaming at him. He's not perfect, he's probably had some reactive abuse too, not to mention he's maybe been off his face on drugs or drunk and maybe they've gotten into a verbal altercation but in no way has he been abusive, especially to the extent Amber is claiming. Watching him on the stand, I saw his eyes, I see me in that. Flashbacks, you're trying to recall specific events without going into some kind of breakdown or panic due to a trigger. I wouldn't call myself a fan of him by any means but I've been in a similar situation, I get it and it hits extremely close to home
Yeah I honestly saw a lot of his mannerisms as signs that he is embarrassed. He is a notoriously private person so of course it would make him uncomfortable to have everything made so public. No one should be embarrassed to be a victim of abuse but it’s natural to feel it.
As a survivor of narcissistic abuse and domestic violence, I relate to a lot of the self soothing gestures, I feel like I'm always doing those things myself especially when I'm in an situation where my trauma is mentioned. Also feeling shame is very common. I really sympathize with him.
In my opinion all his gestures are self soothing. I want nothing but the best for Johnny and his family. He has given so much of his life to entertaining our thoughts and feelings through his Art.
You can tell he is in complete disgust at what her lawyer is saying. I can’t believe she’s spinning this narrative still without any proof.
Him and me both.
I can’t believe how the court system allows attorneys to flat out LIE as a PLAN.
The things she described were straight out of the movie Gone Girl. Seems like AH is trying to make that movie her life.
Absolute insult to the jurors. Turd and her team are going down in history as The Biggest Douchebags. No one and Nothing can save Turd from the Karma she created upon herself. Game Over. Checkmate.
@@thatmeanpersononlineoffend9376 exactly!! She put him through hell. He had a few hotel trashing incidents when he was younger, but nothing beyond that, and everyone describes him as calm and quiet.
I dread being videotaped at various times in my life! I tend to fidget. Nothing behind my movements just fidgeting.
I have extreme anxiety, ADD & PTSD so I do a lot of self soothing & grounding. So I'd be screwed🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
I fidget so much when I'm anxious. I had a traumatic childhood & abusive boyfriends, so I also can act a bit "off" in public.
As a person who’s extremely anxious in a public setting I could relate to him changing his position and constant fidgeting, you can’t help but overthink how you look to the outside but try to stay comfortable and calm at the same time, it’s tough 😅 imo, there’s no deceit just an extremely introverted, stressed person
Same. I start to get itchy sometimes. I rub my hands together for self soothing.
as an Amber, I think can speak for all Ambers when I say we do not claim Fossilized Tree Sap Heard.
Logan I have watched all the court footage available for Day 1, 2 & 3 so far on the "Crime & Law Network" channel on RUclips. After listening to both sets of Lawyers, Amber's Lawyers come off anxious, stressed, flustered, & desperate. While Johnny's Lawyers appear professional, calm, organized & intelligent. It was difficult to hear about Johnny's substance problems and his traumatic childhood from his sister. Johnny's friend Isaac was amazing on the stand, what an amazing friend to have. Imo I think Johnny & Amber's had a toxic relationship but I do not believe Johnny physically abused Amber. I pray his name gets cleared 🙏🏻
Seems like she pushed every possible button to try and get him to attack her. She certainly didn’t make it easy to not abuse drugs.
Agreed his side is so calm and has not come off as aggressive like Ambers team. Not to mention the dirty shit with Eve. 🙄
An abused person often does fight back at some point. Sadly, that often makes everyone else think it was a mutual thing...well, she hit him , too, so... or in this case, "well, he did do ___ to her, so they were both abusive..." It's sad.
It's one reason Gabby Petito died. The police didn't see her as the desperate, scared, traumatized victim she really was because she admitted to fighting back. They saw it as a mutual couples fight. :-(
Great insight!
@Nonaya Bidness her bruises were faked
If you looked at the pictures when they were published did you notice anything unusual about them?
Like the fact they moved?
Or that she went out the same night they were taken and didn't have a mark on her ?
Zero swelling?
Nothing out there including me miraculous cream they're touting can cause a full recovery in that way in that short of time. He was and has been innocent from day one, anyone believing her is quite possibly insane, or a fool.
You're ignoring the evidence.
@Nonaya Bidness except for the fact that his didn't move his are still there and are taking the appropriate amount of time to heal
And apparently you've never heard the recording she made saying no one would ever believe he was abused.
She lied from day one got caught repeatedly and you're still on her side?
Lmfao
The denial is strong within you young Soywalker.
You should quit neglecting your bridge I think I noticed some Billy goats trying to cross it.
amber is a horrible human being the fact that she still has her upcoming rolls is jaw dropping, but this is just corrupt hollywood being corrupt hollywood.
Very generous of you to refer to her as human.
Unfortunately it's still a common misconception that men can't be victims of domestic abuse. So hollywood just immediately said, of course he was abusive and she was the victim. People just believed her.
They rug sweep so much.
I wouldn't count on her having any upcoming roles..Aqua 2 is coming bc she already has done it. she has burned studios with this trial and no one will touch her after her lies.
Yet johnny lost everything. When she should be the one that loses her career and more..
I couldn’t wait to hear your opinions on this case, but it’s honestly really sad to see that his ADHD and anxious tics are being seen as manipulative. We aren’t manipulative people, but mix ADHD and Trauma, you’re gonna get this reaction. I’m shocked he was as composed as he is, I’ve gone through severe abuse as someone diagnosed with ADHD & bipolar disorder. Everyone handles things different, sure, but his anxious tics and adhd mannerisms aren’t anything to be seen as deceitful. The man is facing his abuser and career ruiner in front of the entire world- safe to say he’s terrified of the outcome. I wish more people took ADHD seriously, honesty this is just sad to see.
Justice for Johnny❤️
The term "manipulators" here is used more in the context of body language terminology. "Manipulators" are labelled in body language as touching or fidgeting with parts of the body (usually in response to high levels of stress). I don't believe the context of emotional manipulation is the one he using here.
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Son unos de los mejores conciertos.
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Las elecciones cinematográficas y artísticas son brillantes qxmg. Referencias culturales europeas realmente interesantes. Ojalá la cultura europea se representara más a menudo tan bellamente.
No puedo dejar de decir ''oh, esto es hermoso'' a lo largo del video. Luz, en serio... el que se encargue de la iluminación, genial..
As a DV survivor, I think I speak for most of us when I say - we do not claim her, she does not represent us…. We are disgusted by her.
People who lie about abuse are the reason that most actual victims are walking around without any justice.
The worst part is she not only lied about being abused but was the abuser herself. It’s wrong on so many levels.
I'm so grossed out victims are falling for him and APOLOGIZING on behalf of him, to men. How many women were murdered by men while this trial happened? How many men were murdered by women? I'm disgusted what this is going to do to the psyches of actual victim because this drunk narcissist with a God complex has a need to control the narrative. She's literally made his reputation better, from this trial. He should lose this case, but he knows he already won. Who LOST is most female victims who PEOPLE STILL DON'T BELIEVE. Yes men are abused, too (I have to say the words, or else men will be mad at me), but this is going to fuck women up for awhile now. As a victim, don't you dare lump women like you in with women like US who know he's a narcissist. Disgusting. The fact that men can be abused is brought up literally WHENEVER we talk about the violence of women by men, and has for decades. It's not like society is "finally" learning men can be abused. They've always used that fact to minimize their abuse of women, and right now that sentiment is doing its job EXTRA.
Another reason you should not claim to speak for domestic violence victims as a whole AT ALL, is that you gotta realize it's not going to be easy for them to come out and defend amber even if they do, nor will they come out and say anything negative about poor, downtrodden , millionaire Johnny, because they are definitely attacked. They are definitely not accepted as having a side, the mob immediately pounces. That's why some of us are vocal, and I am thankful for people who do say otherwise, especially men. He's definitely abusive himself. It doesn't matter at the end of the day if she lied, because he's not innocent. She challenged his narcissist image, and he's already lost one case in which he says she lied. I wish DV victims would think REALLY hard about who is benefitting by the pure rage towards this one woman. I already know mostly female victims lost. Don't try "oh but she made female victims look bad," no, NO. YOU did. your collective hatred of her put female victims believability down a fucking few notches. I hope the DV victims hating on her, and ironically hating on women who speak out, with such anger, are proud of themselves.
@@marissalw8445 thank you, well said! The misogyny I’ve seen from the comments on the internet have been absolutely vile and this case given them an excuse to be so open about hating women and why women SHOULNT be believed.
When Johnny said, “If she was so abused, why didn’t she just leave?”, is disgusting and let’s say he happens to be the victim, how would he feel if someone said that to him? Why didn’t he leave? And also, she DID leave and even tried to get a restraining order and he retaliated. But he’s somehow changed the narrative to “poop in bed made me leave”, when there’s evidence that she was the one who chose to leave.
Also, it’s strange how he’s been quoted talking about how he thought it would be a funny prank for Amber if HE defecated and left it for her as a “surprise”, as in he found that hilarious and amusing. And somehow; years later, he claims he was disgusted by finding poop on his bed and “how could anyone even think to do something like that!, yada yada yada, and claimed she did it to “get back at him”. Bruh.
With the way he was abusing drugs and alcohol at that time, I wouldn’t be surprised if that was his own doing and he woke up the next morning sober and forgot what he did. He seems to “not recall” a lot of things based on his own testimonies.
As a DV survivor, and likely a survivor of childhood abuse/trauma/neglect, the cognitive function required to be able to look at this objectively, is not firing on all cylinders, so to speak.
I never was a fan of his, sure I recognised him on movies he was acting in, but I also never knew who this woman was until I saw her "abuse declarations" and I could never shake how FAKE she looked, thats why I suspected her from the start and got invested in the case
Now that I know more about him I cant help but feel like I will become a fan, he is so genuine and has suffered so so much its just sad that she chose to go after him when he is so nice ;;
Welcome to the Depp side lol
You really should check out any of his work that interests you. He's amazing in any character he plays, and his character always steals the show.
@@pattondurio true
@@pattondurio seen him a few times when I was younger and a few more recently! He is a good actor and really funny too! I was just never a fan of him as a person ;; I kinda just didnt notice him outside of his films besides all the good deeds that would appear on the news from time to time!
@@pattondurio ... you are completely right, his characters do always 'steal the show', whatever show that is!
As a victim of abuse, I can imagine why contempt would come in... My abuserS ended up telling people I was the problem, using any tactic like I was on medication when things happened, I had my period (no joke this was used againt me), just more and more absurd things to manipulate those around me into thinking I was the problem... These were two very long relationships and you just become so used to not being able to defend yourself aloud that you just take the moral high ground in your head because it's the safest place... ❤
Much love and peace sis 🌌💖💫
I wonder if Johnny's self-soothing gesture at the beginning was because his lawyer was talking about abuse victims, and while he knows he is an abuse victim, he is uncomfortable with that knowledge. Owning that label reinforces the trauma of what a victim has gone through.
I normally really love your analysis but I just can’t agree with most of this one. For the next one it’s really important to note that Johnny is neuro divergent. He’s been diagnosed with ADHD and anxiety as well. Yes, he’s an actor, but as you said, often actors are the worst liars, when they aren’t in a set and don’t have a script. And you’ll see that with Amber as well, she’s supposed to be an actress but during this entire trial she has tried to cry and look guilty but she hasn’t been able to, because she knows what she did. So I don’t think you should bring acting into this, unless it’s too obvious and I don’t think it was with him. You’ll also see when Johnny takes the stand that he struggles to speak, a lot of filler words, having difficulty to recall events because of his trauma. So him scratching the back of his head, avoiding eye contact, putting his hand on his mouth, fidgeting… those are all signs of him being nervous and uncomfortable, of having to relive all the things he went through. Plus having to sit in a courtroom for 7-9 hours, four days a week, with your abuser, and being interrogated by incompetent lawyers that want you to set you up for failure. You can be the best actor in the world, but you cannot mask genuine traumatic experiences.
this isn’t the first time logan has overlooked really important contributing factors around current situations involving abuse. His reading of Gabby Petito was similarly inconsiderate of the roles that abuse plays in body language. he apologized for that video but i really feel like he hasn’t learned at all to look more closely into what he’s talking about ESPECIALLY in cases involving abuse. talking about current events like this is so sensitive he is able to have some sway in public opinion and i think that’s a responsibility he really needs to take more seriously esp about abuse survivors and neurodivergent people who are already vastly misunderstood for being different.
@@Ray-zy7vb Exactly! He seems to think every person he analyzes is neurotypical, when that’s not the case. He needs to understand that this is a case concerning physical and emotional abuse, as a non verbal analyst he should know that mental health affects non verbal communication heavily, especially when that person is a victim of abuse. He needs to research before going into a case like this, he clearly didn’t here and it just comes off as insensitive and dismissive of someone else’s trauma
Johnny has adhd and anxiety.. And he's an introvert. The trial is long, stressful and brings up a lot of past trauma, ofc he will fidget and stutter in the witness booth. I have adhd and anxiety too... And even if I'm quite extroverted I would do exactly the same as he did if I was in his situation. There's a lot of things going on in my brain, so it takes a little while to find the memories and formulate the sentences.
Amber on the other hand shows no emotion whatsoever during all that time. But people believe her because she's a female 🤦🏻♀️ Her lawyer (Elaine i think?) is so aggressive as well..
It’s also must be a very embarrassing situation for him. It shouldn’t be but he must feel it. It is so public and he is usually a private person.
Can we get a breakdown on his body language during his testimony? I would really love your take.
It is difficult to break that down because as his doctor testified, he has ADHD, anxiety and PTSD. He also smokes, drinks and maybe takes a cocktail of medication. Being on the spotlight would exhaust him and make him fidgety and act " out of character or what we consider normal.
@@francescawilliams8177 He testified yesterday that he no longer takes prescription drugs because he doesn't want to go through the pain of detoxing again.
@@mdnblues he could be taking any number of medications one would not “detox” from. Did they discuss this? Medications for ADHD, PTSD, anxiety can all be non-addictive/habit forming and in fact treating those with other medications then benzodiazepines can be more effective. I couldn’t find that testimony.
@@mdnblues he said he didn’t want to take the medication he got addicted to. The name of it alludes me right now but he didn’t say all medication. He said that specific medication and meds like it.
@@sarahrune5318 he said he doesn’t take opiates anymore (what he was addicted to)
Oh please please please do a vid of Amber's non existent blink rate and her challenging stare down of Johnny while he testified.
That girls movements are wild and erratic 😂
Yessss
What you call “manipulation factors” many people who’ve received trauma call ptsd, trauma responses, and anxiety in a situation where your trauma is being questioned.
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I keep seeing the excuse of “all actors can lie!”.. and all I can think the entire time is.. there are entire channels and videos dedicated to watching how bad of a liar Tom Holland is.
I feel it's important to note that with official diagnosis' of PTSD - especially C-PTSD - how deep a sense of shame is just for existing. It's present even if you're not guilty. It's definitely a skew in the direction of "keeping your head down" for a baseline. Also the ADHD fidgeting and sometimes odd reactions to certain things. I'm very curious to see you continue to dissect this one!
Completely agree - I have c-ptsd and shame and guilt is pretty much a 24/7 constant and my automatic reaction to various kinds of situations
There is no C-PTSD diagnosis in America. It’s not in the DSM.
@@katieandnick4113 C-PTSD is regularly discussed for going into the DSM. It is just reasonably slow going as there's a long process to getting any new diagnosis in. Even if C-PTSD isn't currently accepted as an official diagnosis and subset/type of PTSD. PTSD *is* in the DSM, and currently covers everything that can be considered Complex PTSD. Obviously his full medical history is confidential, but it's fairly well known that he has the PTSD diagnosis, and I think it's a very important note when looking at body language patterns.
@@katieandnick4113 it’s in the process of being entered into the DSM but as a relatively concept it takes time - however it is recognised and people are diagnosed with it - myself included. Things don’t just happen overnight.
Note: I’m not in America, I’m in Ireland (in case that has any relevance)
@@waltzingmatilda9092 your therapist/psychiatrist may have diagnosed you with it, but if they are billing insurance, they have to use different codes. A common code(s) for people with C-PTSD is a combination of BPD and PTSD. And sadly, it is not the case that C-PTSD is going to be added to the DSM. The APA is owned by oligarchs, who benefit from Americans not understanding trauma disorders. Childhood trauma isn’t even a diagnostic criteria for BPD, which is absolutely bonkers. And in fact, I would not be surprised in PTSD was removed from the DSM entirely, when they make the next revision.
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I do not think he did what his ex says. She seems to always be adding things to what he supposedly did to her. I feel sorry that he has to go through this. Just sad.
Fr. When did the bottle thing get added? That's new, no?
@@GizmoGremlinDog I've never heard about it before, so I believe it's new
Yeah, that is new!!!
All the "manipulators" that were mentioned Johnny Depp has always done. I've never seen an interview were he's not constantly fidgeting or touching his mouth. Don't you usually do a baseline for people
i’m just another person with adhd telling you that what you’re calling manipulators are just simply him fidgeting and not being able to sit still. many of the things he was doing like scratching and touching his lips were things i was also doing as i was watching this video, on the couch, by myself, trying to pay attention to what you were saying.
Manipulators are not meant to be somehow saying that he is manipulating people.
It is literally just a more scientific name for fidgeting or specific movements.
AMBer needs to pay for her bs....why he got punished, and she just went on to do her little movies is UNACCEPTABLE
So happy aqua man finally dumped her ass
I feel that being an actor does not even give you half enough control over your non verbal communication to convincingly lie in an emotional situation you’re engaged in. Mind that to display emotions the best is to feel them, so in acting you do not play the role you live the role. Thats a problem I have with this video. Rather be suspicious of people who are truly detached of their emotions and reality, thinking of psychopathic, sociopathic and narcissistic behavior tendencies in people. I think Depp just displays distress rather than anything else or to look further for anything else.
Fair enough, though I think Logan's point is that, being an actor, it does mean you have control over enough of your nonverbal communication to where it is something people have to keep in mind. Now remember, literally the first part of this video was spent him explaining that acting is a different mental process than lying off-stage. So it's not Logan reading psychopathic/sociopathic/narcissistic tendencies onto people but rather acknowledging that, out of a population, the people who'd be better at understanding what nonverbal cues mean what emotion would be actors.
That, and I think it's kind of harmful to sit there and immediately jump to the conclusion that this video is implying that Depp has such tendencies. People being able to control their nonverbal cues doesn't automatically mean they're a psychopath. I do agree that Depp is probably just in distress, and his ADHD and other mental stuffs is coming through here. I just think you're looking wayy too deep into a 14 minute video that more or less is an introductory video to establish some things. Like the acting element, _especially_ since it was brought to light in the case itself.
You're quite right! It doesn't. On the contrary, as anyone who has done full-time drama school training knows, learning to act well is actually un-masking yourself and learning to be able to strip yourself of the social conditioning we all are affected by that leads us in real life to mask or cover our true private feelings. You'd be amazed how much we all required to lie in every day life in order to be acceptable in society. But, in order to be convincing as a character on screen, where everyone can see every thought and twitch of the face, to be able to show true emotions and authentic reflexes in public, in order to make an audience empathise with you and tell a convincing story you can't *pretend* you have to learn to access genuine feelings. To tell the truth within a set of fictional (or historical) circumstances. Audiences can sniff lying a mile away - you don't call it lying it in that context, you call it "hammy" or bad acting, but it comes from the actor faking it, or not showing their true authentic responses on screen. This is also why so many great actors appear to be playing a version of themselves across many films, they're not, they're just amazing at being authentic on screen/stage. It always baffles me that people expect good actors to be good liars. It's quite the opposite. After intensive acting training it becomes much harder to lie or mask, to the point where actors are often thought of as blunt or rude (or egoic) in every day conversation. Some are, but some of it just comes from drama training and acting experience removing the people-pleasing filter/ability to tell white lies to be polite...
He has ADHD too, so that will effect his body language. Especially in a stressful situation
Can’t wait for your analysis of Amber Heard’s testimony, it was interesting to say the least…
I came here to say this lol
we stand with abuse victims, no matter their gender. I hope Johnny gets the justice and peace he deserves
When Amber hit her girlfriend, it told me all I need to know about her. JD 4 life.
There are hours of recorded fights between Depp and Heard on RUclips. It's so crystal clear what a manipulative and abusive POS she is. Unless it's upsetting to you to listen to fighting I suggest giving it a go.
Yes, JD is an actor---
HOWEVER, watching his movies since his Bull was a pup, one can see his tics, self soothing, etc, many times upon the screen, but I'm sorry, I must disagree with a few of your observations---
I think you give him a more "devious" and calculating summation than he deserves.
Those clips are NOTHING compared to the previous last days of testimony, where he speaks of familial abuse, where he speaks of the abandonment of his father, the death of his mother, and his true regret of what can never be ( as far as the future he had hoped for with Ms. Heard ), what has happened that can never be repaired, his losses, and the huge "falling out of Love" Ms. Heard apparently experienced with Mr. Depp.
Please, be better prepared ( tho I'll give you, 6/7 days of material is overWHELming ) , and see Mr. Depp's depths.
Thank you...
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The lawyer is talking about him “beating her” and you say he has a look of contempt?!?! Absolutely NOT! His body language is clear as day to me! He is completely uncomfortable and self soothing due to anxiety and shame, etc. He looks totally innocent.
Glad no one breaks down my body language or else I'd always seem suspicious since I have social anxiety and become extremely hyper aware of myself and my surroundings during the social situations. I start to dissociate. I do all kinds of things to try and calm myself down, and to someone who "thinks" they can read body language, they'd assume I was lying or deceptive or whatever else. Humans are not always that easy to read without knowing the full picture and background of that specific person.
Couldn't he just be highly uncomfortable with this entire issue? I saw a young girl do all these touching her hair and mouth when the cc machine stopped working at the bagel shop she was working in and the line was getting backed up.
I have experience with PTSD and Domestic Abuse. His tells are consistent with someone who is a Domestic abuse survivor.
Would you ever be willing to do a read from the show sister wives? I think it would be fasinating
Yes! This show is nuts
Oh my I would love that!
Oh, I hope your planning an update of AH on the stand while she is testifying.... I would LOVE to hear what you have to say about her during this "performance"
I really hope that you take apart both Johnny's and Amber's testimonies. I'm watching Amber's right now, and it just doesn't feel right. Even if I didn't watch your channel and know of signs to look for, the way she's retelling things just doesn't feel right. I'm seeing a lot of examples of Duper's delight while she's talking, the way she speaks and is sitting is telling of her attitude towards all this, she has a moment where she's fake crying and her emotions shift very quickly, and she adds way too much information to her stories.
There is so much actual proof that covers Amber's lies (videos, voice recordings, text messages, her being violent toward her ex in the past, pictures of her ''injuries'' vanishing within hours). & there is only ''he said, she said'' when it comes to Johnny's ''mistakes''. I just don't get why this bs keeps getting dragged out so much. Furthermore I don't get why he lost his jobs, while nobody fires Amber from her jobs.
this. he seems to believe the narrative that they both abused each other, but all the "evidence" AH has is clearly very suspect. the entire narrative around this is so uncomfortable. and it kills that Johnny has lost roles when he is such an incredible actor and she is just not. in his testimony you see just how much effort and value he put into creating his roles. the double standard is gross. but Hollywood loves to protect abusers while shutting down the abused
Yep.
Doesn’t he have ADHD? I know sometimes I’ll space out because of the ADHD due to anxiety in social situations and I’ll fidget when I realize I’ve spaced out. I’ll also just fidget when I forget I’m trying not to fidget. The fidgeting will get worse and I’ll grab at my face and mouth if I’m actively trying not to fidget in a specific way such as tapping things or anything that might make noise or cause a distraction.
I am a fan of Johnny Depp, and I also happen to be a woman of the same age. His behavior has been consistent throughout his life. He has never had a reputation as a problematic person in his private life or career. The Me Too movement was supposed to show how prevalent sexual harassment and assault are in our society. It was never meant to be accusations of specific crimes. We have something called due process. If her testimony in court is accurate, she should have gone to the authorities, and I believe her assistants and personal medical staff would have demanded it. She was not alone. Strangulation, being shoved and grabbed, plus being sexually assaulted by fingers and objects leave more than a couple of marks on your face. It usually lands you in the hospital, just like Johnny's finger landed him in the hospital.
Depending on Johnny’s diagnosis, he can be stimming. I noticed he was doing a lot of leg shaking and thumping the witness stand. Anxiety can do that.
he has adhd
This new setup is so fun! I especially love the hovering lightbulb lol I thought it was an optical illusion for a sec (or it might be and I’m just visually challenged 😅) Welcome back, and thanks for covering this!
I thought i was the only one lol
I'm hypnotized by the lightbulb too!
i think it realy is floating! i know there's real hover lamps ppl can purchase (overwatch sold one for a bit) and i think it's one of those!! they typically spin
It's magnets ☺
the bulb and sculp i am hating ! :D i cant focus on his facial etc bcs i see spining bulb but not straight.
Johnny depp is an introvert.. an INFP... it's hard to read our emotions 😩
You need to take into account that he is a person who has experienced severe abuse, most likely has PTSD and possibly damage from the drug use so it’s not so easy to just read body language without taking this into account
Agreed. Also, I've seen people say that him looking down can be guilt. It seems to me he avoids looking at her as more in a gentleman type way. Like doesn't want to seem intimidating, Sort of giving her the freedom to hang hersel., I mean speak freely.
He’s an anxious introverted that was a victim of abuse as a child. Same for me. I recognize a lot of things he’s doing because I do them myself.
Also, her lawyers are very unprepared, know they don’t have a case, and seem to be making shit up as they go along. I’m sure he’s a combination of disgusted and thinking about how dumb they sound.
His body may be saying nervous, anxious, whatever else, but his face is telling exactly what he’s thinking.
Watching amber Hurd testify now, I am anxiously awaiting a video on it!!! I can’t wait for you to go through her act
I really hope you look into Amber as well, including her outfit choices because it's been brought up by some psychiatrists on TikTok that it looks like she's trying to "mirror" his previous days looks as a show of intimidation. I'm not saying he's 100% completely innocent but at his age with the number of relationships he's been in if he had a pattern of abuse this bad something would have come out. It should also be considered that he was abused as a child and has his own mental health issues and trauma so the jitters could be contributed to that. I know I have anxiety and PTSD and if I were in court there's no way in hell I would be sitting still.
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I was never diagnosed with adhd, but my god sitting still is impossible. I understand why Johnny isn’t sitting still. Yes, adhd runs in my family.
Not to mention pure evil was infront of him and she’s been putting him through hell for years
@@starbright144 oh definitely. I sincerely hope Johnny gets justice because that man deserves better!
Ooh, I may have missed the announcement that you were moving!
Now it makes sense. I hope everything goes smoothly going forward and that your hand heals quickly!