There is so much that can be said about every aspect of this setup in order for this to work. The machine capabilites, the workholding, the tool holder, the grade of carbide of the tool. All of it had to come together to make this happen. Incredible.
@ajwilson605 air blast is coolant. Many coatings used nowadays needs a little bit of heat to work properly and prevent built up edge. Liquid coolant on this process would destroy the cutting edges in minutes due to thermal shock.
Mine can't either but they begin spindle stalling at anything over 3000 mm/min in anything harder than plastics and with any meaningful tool engagement. You need powerful servos but you also need an insanely powerful spindle with high torque for shenanigans like this
i still remember the first ever 200 IPM in Haas machine on aluminium 😎... now it's 10X on steel 😱 this is what Titan always says raise to greatness.. machine greatness... see the smile on his face 🙂🙂 like never before.. good work barry.. hats off 🤙🏼powerful Peoples make places powerful 👍🏼
I can't believe that that tool is doing that kind of machining. The accuracy of this machine tool has to be very good to do this kind of dry metal machining.
Everytime I start getting discouraged about going into the CNC trade(still an apprentice) I just pop up titans of cnc and watch the awesome stuff you all are doing and it gets me right back into it! Keep up the great videos!
You're pretty much set for a career, most of the engineering automation has already happened, the next revolution that will pull millions out of work is in the soft fields like journalism, banking, graphic design et cetera etc
This is really insane, but in my opinion the 1000IPM on the 3/8 Cutter was way more insane it had nearly the same MRR with 40 compared to this (48) but at HALF the diameter so way more fragile tool. But still a great video love those limit checks
Great content! Thanks for showing the world what’s possible, too many shops have guys running tools at lethargic MRR because they haven’t began to understand the full potential of the machine, work holding and tooling solutions.
This reminds me of the 4 minute mile record that literally took forever to break which was in 1954. Athletes be like 4 min mile? pffft that is impossible which is why the record stood for so long. But since that day in 1954 1,755 athletes have broken it. Surely with the advancements of technology in the machines and tooling this is a really great example of pulling a Morpheus from the Matrix "I'm just trying to free your mind" approach. Granted I don't have a spare Heller sitting around my garage to attempt this nor would I consider it looking at the expense of a tech coming out to repair my machine afterwards but I like the point you guys make. It's ok to push things harder and faster. As always much love and gratitude. 💥💪
If it was slotting , I had a feeling it would break immediately but since it’s doing the periphery, I had a feeling it was gonna last doing that. I never knew they made a 15 flute endmill
What's the material removal rate vs a conventional feed? I feel like you could remove the exact same material per minute with a conventional tool path.
That's what I was thinking as well. Those are needles coming off that thing so it isnt much of a cut. You could take a bigger cut with a slower feed rate. My question would be which is wearing the cutter out quicker? Titan doesnt have to pay for cutters as they are given to him from the manufacturer to demo. So that cutter (if its a 3/4") costs 330 bucks on MSC and a shop that has to pay for that thing has to consider that. Also machine wear. 2000 IPM puts a lot more wear on everything than 500ipm and so on. I think most shops would opt for a insert type cutter in this situation. Inserts are cheaper to change and usually have at least 4 sides as well. Once that thing is dull it has to be resharpened and that costs even more. I have to pay for my cutters. Just my .02
Nobody done it before, since the CEO never let anyone, try, without forking the money out of their pocket for when it fails. That's why the Titans are up there, since HR people that got their degrees in "emotional damage" and "buhuhus look at me, I am sad", are not involved in the production and management of the people and the product. To be in the top, is once again proven by Titan, by pushing boundaries and sharing their success with the clients and employee's. That's a tribe that I would be proud to be part of. Keep on going, may fairness always be part of your core creed.
Woow...!! You are crazy guys, but really, you inspire me and my guys to go beyond. We never know so far we can go until we try it. Thanks guys for this inspirational video..!!
Titan, Barry.....awesome, doing crazy and showing crazy is what i think it takes to break the current mold and bring manufacturing back to north america. ❤
Great job guys.... Boom! Bang! Funny how things go. I can remember the history of tools and machines. Cnc machines could do more then the available tools 30 years ago. Then the carbide grades getting better and the machines were to slow in speed and processor capacity, a corner was some strange form but nut 90°. Now the machines getting quicker and quicker with the "thinking capacity", better processors, rigid frames and stronger motors...... I see it as an constant battle between machine builders and tool manufacturers 😅 Let's see what in the coming years happens, I think very interesting stuff 😊
Makes me proud to see that German quality still exists. Heller makes crazy machines and just around the corner from me aswell. Southern germany still rocks when it comes to high tech machining in metal, software and engineering.
The first time I was drilling with a carbide coolant thru drill the math worked out to 30 ipm feed into a part.... the most nerve wracking thing I have ever done because there wasnt the ability to fix this part. Now that fast is common
That's nuts crazy quick all good sounding cuts no squawking an the tool look just as good as new. what did the MRR end being? our machines haven't even got rapids that move that fast.
WOW - The material removal Rate - BOOM Spindle bearings also be like BOOM ha ha. Great job. Def worth a test to see whats possible !! It looks like 2200 is possible
Barry! I'm so amazed of how much thought is behind it. Firstly You picked a steel grade with around 0,75% carbon and high manganese content for its low ductility to provide good chip breaking and to avoid tool pullout. Secondly You used a finishing tool for it's small edge radius to minimalize cutting forces. Am i right that You picked the axial and radial DOC to have some spare torque just in case? Those are just my first thoughts but i bet there was a lot more behind it. BTW in those vices the workpiece was never going anywhere. Greets as allways, You Guys rule!
More smaller flutes also means the core of the tool is larger and more solid. But you have to take a hell of a lot into consideration before hitting the yeet button on a cycle like this. OMG scary.
It says in the video 1080, but in the description it says "This 15 flute end mill from Kennametal takes on 1018 steel attempting to reach 2000 IPM in our Heller HF 5500 beast mill." @@Jatsekusama
If you've got the RPM, the torque, the table drive speed, and the rigidity, you can hit your chip load target and the limit becomes heat management at the cutter edge and ultimately the dynamic pressure on the cutting edge. Cut faster, it has to increase.
Try putting it in an ER-collet 😂 I think the rigidity of the tool-holder and the part itself helped a lot there. The tools can often take a hell of a beating if you do it right. Some times I just go for the sound and load, then see how the tool looks after 😂
That was probably the smoothest sounding run in steel I have ever heard. Absolutely no bogging down on the spindle or the axis servos. A shot of the load meters would have been insightful.
So you’re little spec page says “1080 steel” although Barry said @5:10 that it’s 1018… they’re not much different but I can’t help but notice. (In this trade you have to be real particular as y’all know)
5:16 Got ‘em, but they do look worn AF. Can’t really expect better out of a finishing mill doing all of it’s own roughing completely dry though. You guys violated that tool. 😅
The part and the tool are the star but look at the faces of the boys in the background..they see pushing the limit most days….. but this one had a few jaws dropping and then stare of unbelievable amazement. If this team is going wow then then rest need to tug the forelock in respect.
The dude's voice sound just like just like one of my besties and it is tripping me all the way out I would probably almost not even know which one was which I would for sure definitely no but I just I can't get over it that's the second time this week that still happened maybe I should give him a call❤
You make it like 1018 is tough, only because you compare it to leaded (you coud perhaps go even faster) or Chinesium which might seem easy at first until an inconsistency eats your tool.
never would call myself a cnc operator but i did .100 deep 4 inch dia at maybe 1,100 rpm at 20 ipm with a custom index cutter that I made on a prototrak bridgeport. I know very well thats nothing but i used kennametal inserts which are the bomb imo.
They were saying how the machine is scary fast. At my last job I worked on a Makino and it had a 4,000 ipm rapid. It was hard to get used to flipping the parts on the other side because the whole machine would be rattling and shaking around me
I would like to see a video on how you come up with your parameters for your tools. I know Kennametal has the Novo but I haven’t used it much to know how to really get the results I’m looking for. Like for your high efficiency tool paths, or if you want to do a helical plunge and so on.
it's a reasonable 0.103 ipt the radial engagement is very low at 0.020 but the sfm is prety high at 2552 the big diameter will help with chip tinning add the high flute count and you'll get to 2000 ipm as I said the feed per tooth is reasonable it's the sfm that will wear out the tool quicker than it should and that's why the titanium coating is key for the success of this cut hence the high sfm, I'm just saying that this is not sorcery it's just engineering, the engineering of this cut is amazing trying to make something do crazy things it wasn't made to do like this tool that is made to finish titanium is being used as a steel rougher.
Ok so a few things come to mind here. First off 2k IPM is cool for sure congrats on that. Second thought here is .02 radial step over with the RPM and endmill Size in consideration are you really pushing the limits here? Third if you really think your pushing the limits next comes in tool life management and how long does the endmill last per parts and contract. Sometimes just because we can do something doesn’t mean we should kennametal tooling is amazing but the price of them is high do we really want to wear out the edges of the tools to be able to go that fast when we could have went with a slower RPM,bigger step over and slower feed rate still getting maximum MMR out of cutter and gain in tool life? Have to see the pros and cons before we call this a success story. Yes it cut the part and that is impressive on its own but now we have to actually think realistically if it is business smart and cost effective.
I could not agree with you more. Its funny reading to the comments of people that don't have to pay for their cutters or have even ran a CNC. Not much of a chip load as those are needles in there.
Hello Titans! Are you going to EMO Germany event?
Yes, Heller booth on Tuesday at 2pm
Then BLASER on Wednesday at 2pm and then DN Solutions at 2pm on Thursday.
See ya there!
Stephane our Sales rep @Evard Précision waits you with a drink on Hall 4, Stand D28
Hell I wish I was going to EMO… and I don’t even work in this industry… it’s just cool to make shit 👍💪
I still can NOT believe that tool survived. Not only did it survive but it actually worked well. Crazy
There is so much that can be said about every aspect of this setup in order for this to work. The machine capabilites, the workholding, the tool holder, the grade of carbide of the tool. All of it had to come together to make this happen. Incredible.
Add coolant and push it even harder....2400IPM...maybe 2500....
coolant while machining steel will actually not help but decrease tool life@@ajwilson605
@@ajwilson605 Doesn't work like that in steel.
@ajwilson605 air blast is coolant. Many coatings used nowadays needs a little bit of heat to work properly and prevent built up edge. Liquid coolant on this process would destroy the cutting edges in minutes due to thermal shock.
My machine cant even rapid travel this fast.
Mine can't either but they begin spindle stalling at anything over 3000 mm/min in anything harder than plastics and with any meaningful tool engagement. You need powerful servos but you also need an insanely powerful spindle with high torque for shenanigans like this
Same lol
Mine could do it if it were dropped out of an airplane
One tool per part… when money is no object…
@@michaeltrilck5680 But like they said... if you are running 100ipm, it's time to seriously re-evaluate running 400 or 600 and even up to 1000.
It was such a nice sounding cut, I had no idea you guys already ran this on the other side of the shop until it was done 😂😂
As one lathe guy to another please please I need more of your content and if possible maybe a little fusion 360???? Tbf you are all amazing 👏
If this doesn't get you excited about machining, nothing will! Awesome work guys🦾
Holy fuck! 😳😳 "try that in your Haas" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
German machines are awesome 💪🏻
Mark from Haas Automation would like a word with you XD
i still remember the first ever 200 IPM in Haas machine on aluminium 😎... now it's 10X on steel 😱 this is what Titan always says raise to greatness.. machine greatness... see the smile on his face 🙂🙂 like never before.. good work barry.. hats off 🤙🏼powerful Peoples make places powerful 👍🏼
one day is going to be 4000IPM and we be shatting bricks all over again.
Titan and Barry aren’t afraid of a challenge. Love it!
That must have been a fun phone call to make to your Kennametal rep...."Hey, gues what? 2000 IPM in steel, it lived and is still in good shape!"
Guys, I'm Belarusian, and I don't know English very well. But how I would like to work with you and learn skills from you. You're awesome!
Chinesium. 😂. Great video!
I can't believe that that tool is doing that kind of machining.
The accuracy of this machine tool has to be very good to do this kind of dry metal machining.
Everytime I start getting discouraged about going into the CNC trade(still an apprentice) I just pop up titans of cnc and watch the awesome stuff you all are doing and it gets me right back into it! Keep up the great videos!
Why do you get discouraged?
You're pretty much set for a career, most of the engineering automation has already happened, the next revolution that will pull millions out of work is in the soft fields like journalism, banking, graphic design et cetera etc
That tool sounded amazigly good for that speed. Very nice!
Lol! Working in full panic mode, and then Greatness!! Haha love it!
This is really insane, but in my opinion the 1000IPM on the 3/8 Cutter was way more insane it had nearly the same MRR with 40 compared to this (48) but at HALF the diameter so way more fragile tool. But still a great video love those limit checks
Great content! Thanks for showing the world what’s possible, too many shops have guys running tools at lethargic MRR because they haven’t began to understand the full potential of the machine, work holding and tooling solutions.
Barry taking it to the next LEVEL!!
Getting some strong Rodney Dangerfield vibes @1:15 😂 love it!
Extreme leavel of machining, you guys are pushing every limit of the machines. Keep going with such interesting vedios.
The fact it survived was impressive. Let alone running that fast. In steel. Now let's all remember. They ran it dry. Absolutely amazing work.
the tool wouldn't make it with coolant on, because of the thermal shock
This reminds me of the 4 minute mile record that literally took forever to break which was in 1954. Athletes be like 4 min mile? pffft that is impossible which is why the record stood for so long. But since that day in 1954 1,755 athletes have broken it. Surely with the advancements of technology in the machines and tooling this is a really great example of pulling a Morpheus from the Matrix "I'm just trying to free your mind" approach. Granted I don't have a spare Heller sitting around my garage to attempt this nor would I consider it looking at the expense of a tech coming out to repair my machine afterwards but I like the point you guys make. It's ok to push things harder and faster. As always much love and gratitude. 💥💪
This is awesome 😂, wonder what would happen on a 15 year old DMG linear motor mill that can do 100 meters per min, 4000IPM next?
Epic! They used to say running a 4 minute mile was “impossible”😅 Always push for more!
That is Insane!! That is scary fast. You and your team Kill it Every time. Thanks for Sharing and the all the information
MAN that is crazy. The 4 axis Mori Seiki I run can hit 240 IPM in 100% rapid and 9000 RPM. It couldn't do anything close to this.
Your mori could remove just as much with a slower feedrate and a higher chip load with a insert cutter.
If it was slotting , I had a feeling it would break immediately but since it’s doing the periphery, I had a feeling it was gonna last doing that. I never knew they made a 15 flute endmill
What's the material removal rate vs a conventional feed? I feel like you could remove the exact same material per minute with a conventional tool path.
That's what I was thinking as well. Those are needles coming off that thing so it isnt much of a cut. You could take a bigger cut with a slower feed rate. My question would be which is wearing the cutter out quicker? Titan doesnt have to pay for cutters as they are given to him from the manufacturer to demo. So that cutter (if its a 3/4") costs 330 bucks on MSC and a shop that has to pay for that thing has to consider that. Also machine wear. 2000 IPM puts a lot more wear on everything than 500ipm and so on. I think most shops would opt for a insert type cutter in this situation. Inserts are cheaper to change and usually have at least 4 sides as well. Once that thing is dull it has to be resharpened and that costs even more. I have to pay for my cutters. Just my .02
Yeah that was insane!
Barry the terminator, "lm in need for speed", whole new meaning to the quote, amazing 😮
We use heller machines to turn the journals of crakshafts. They are beasts.
This rpm and feed applies to smaller machines. Part rigidity helps keep this endmill from chipping or breaking too
One badass end mill, Top notch machining center!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would love to see microscopic before and after photo imaging of the milling cutter.😊
Hi, great mindset. The first one needs to be a bit crasy. Best Regards from Germany
Nobody done it before, since the CEO never let anyone, try, without forking the money out of their pocket for when it fails. That's why the Titans are up there, since HR people that got their degrees in "emotional damage" and "buhuhus look at me, I am sad", are not involved in the production and management of the people and the product. To be in the top, is once again proven by Titan, by pushing boundaries and sharing their success with the clients and employee's. That's a tribe that I would be proud to be part of. Keep on going, may fairness always be part of your core creed.
Woow...!! You are crazy guys, but really, you inspire me and my guys to go beyond. We never know so far we can go until we try it.
Thanks guys for this inspirational video..!!
Barry king
Hey buddy!
Titan, Barry.....awesome, doing crazy and showing crazy is what i think it takes to break the current mold and bring manufacturing back to north america. ❤
Great job guys.... Boom! Bang!
Funny how things go.
I can remember the history of tools and machines.
Cnc machines could do more then the available tools 30 years ago.
Then the carbide grades getting better and the machines were to slow in speed and processor capacity, a corner was some strange form but nut 90°.
Now the machines getting quicker and quicker with the "thinking capacity", better processors, rigid frames and stronger motors...... I see it as an constant battle between machine builders and tool manufacturers 😅
Let's see what in the coming years happens, I think very interesting stuff 😊
🤯🤯 absolutely amazing, honestly at a loss for words right now that the tool survived and worked as well as it did
Makes me proud to see that German quality still exists. Heller makes crazy machines and just around the corner from me aswell. Southern germany still rocks when it comes to high tech machining in metal, software and engineering.
This is freaking insane! So awesome guys! Great job!!!
The first time I was drilling with a carbide coolant thru drill the math worked out to 30 ipm feed into a part.... the most nerve wracking thing I have ever done because there wasnt the ability to fix this part. Now that fast is common
I used to fabricate the swarf conveyors/coolant tanks for these machines!💪💪👍👍
Titan and Barry together are Epic!
That's nuts crazy quick all good sounding cuts no squawking an the tool look just as good as new. what did the MRR end being? our machines haven't even got rapids that move that fast.
WOW - The material removal Rate - BOOM Spindle bearings also be like BOOM ha ha. Great job. Def worth a test to see whats possible !! It looks like 2200 is possible
Barry! I'm so amazed of how much thought is behind it. Firstly You picked a steel grade with around 0,75% carbon and high manganese content for its low ductility to provide good chip breaking and to avoid tool pullout. Secondly You used a finishing tool for it's small edge radius to minimalize cutting forces. Am i right that You picked the axial and radial DOC to have some spare torque just in case? Those are just my first thoughts but i bet there was a lot more behind it. BTW in those vices the workpiece was never going anywhere. Greets as allways, You Guys rule!
More smaller flutes also means the core of the tool is larger and more solid. But you have to take a hell of a lot into consideration before hitting the yeet button on a cycle like this. OMG scary.
The grade he used is a Mild/Low carbon steel 1018, 0.18% carbon , high ductility.
@@matthewbehrens7091 He used 1080 grade, not 1018 1:48
It says in the video 1080, but in the description it says
"This 15 flute end mill from Kennametal takes on 1018 steel attempting to reach 2000 IPM in our Heller HF 5500 beast mill."
@@Jatsekusama
Love how you guys are always pushing the limits. Keep up the great work! 👊
Congratulations !!!! Simply, WOW !!!
That's one fast boi👀
"Kennametal says it won't survive... BUT WHAT IF IT DOESN'T?!"
i love this attitude lmao
love the knurled surface finish!
If you've got the RPM, the torque, the table drive speed, and the rigidity, you can hit your chip load target and the limit becomes heat management at the cutter edge and ultimately the dynamic pressure on the cutting edge. Cut faster, it has to increase.
Now that's Crazy speed!
What is more amazing than the metal coming off is the mass of the machine that is moving at that speed repeatably to make it happen. Charles
Please keep machining like this to see how long the tool lasts/ what makes it break
Ssssooooo.... That was effin kool!! Mind is blown!! U guys effin rock!!
Try putting it in an ER-collet 😂 I think the rigidity of the tool-holder and the part itself helped a lot there. The tools can often take a hell of a beating if you do it right. Some times I just go for the sound and load, then see how the tool looks after 😂
Nice!
Would be nice to see the MRR values.
I think the acceleration of the machine is also just as impressive.
That was probably the smoothest sounding run in steel I have ever heard. Absolutely no bogging down on the spindle or the axis servos. A shot of the load meters would have been insightful.
Thats because its not taking much of a cut. The chips are needles.
I would have never thunk it. Cool stuff to learn.
No one has ever tried it before? The apprentice (aka Barry) tried it with a drill the other day :P
Hahaha but this time I was SUCCESSFUL!
0.26mm/flute! That's cray cray!
Mad Baz! You are good value mate! haha.
the try that in a small town refrence was awesome
Спасибо за впечатляющее видео, коллеги.
So you’re little spec page says “1080 steel” although Barry said @5:10 that it’s 1018… they’re not much different but I can’t help but notice. (In this trade you have to be real particular as y’all know)
Amazing. Some machines don't even have this fast of a rapid travel. Good job!
Some insane cuts! So cool!
“Try that in your HAAS” felt that
I regularly pocket mill a 3/4 endmill 1.5in down in Z at 2500rpm, 50in/min taking .095 per wall in 1018 welded parts
the fact that these tools can cut that much steel at this rate is just CRAZY!! how does the cutter stay sharp!???
Waow thats so crazy, i love it. ❤👌🤜
5:16 Got ‘em, but they do look worn AF. Can’t really expect better out of a finishing mill doing all of it’s own roughing completely dry though. You guys violated that tool. 😅
This was so awesome to watch!!
Amazing machine
Please just hit the FEED button speed it up! sounds beautiful
The part and the tool are the star but look at the faces of the boys in the background..they see pushing the limit most days….. but this one had a few jaws dropping and then stare of unbelievable amazement. If this team is going wow then then rest need to tug the forelock in respect.
Todos tem o meu respeito, pela simplicidade e umildade. Meus parabéns
The dude's voice sound just like just like one of my besties and it is tripping me all the way out I would probably almost not even know which one was which I would for sure definitely no but I just I can't get over it that's the second time this week that still happened maybe I should give him a call❤
Thank you for this video. I never seen before
Very impressive! I kinda wanted to see a finishing pass to take care of the ripples on the work piece.
I needed a seatbelt emoji for this video!
You make it like 1018 is tough, only because you compare it to leaded (you coud perhaps go even faster) or Chinesium which might seem easy at first until an inconsistency eats your tool.
never would call myself a cnc operator but i did .100 deep 4 inch dia at maybe 1,100 rpm at 20 ipm with a custom index cutter that I made on a prototrak bridgeport. I know very well thats nothing but i used kennametal inserts which are the bomb imo.
They were saying how the machine is scary fast. At my last job I worked on a Makino and it had a 4,000 ipm rapid. It was hard to get used to flipping the parts on the other side because the whole machine would be rattling and shaking around me
"Ohhhh man, try that in your haas".....thats my thoughts. They are the training wheels of cnc machining centers.
Bringing jobs back to the USA! This is how you get people excited about machining. Very cool video
@@luismaryland2305 haas is a joke of a company
Essentially it’s 2500 SFPM on a 3/4” tool 15flutes in 1080 steel @ .020 DOC. 1.200” axial
Depth. HSM machining is a whole different thing.
I would like to see a video on how you come up with your parameters for your tools. I know Kennametal has the Novo but I haven’t used it much to know how to really get the results I’m looking for. Like for your high efficiency tool paths, or if you want to do a helical plunge and so on.
Wowww 😍🔥🔥
Push it further!!
Bloody hell! Well that was speeded up. Then it says actual speed. Just jeez!
Hahaha even when i watched the footage i said “woah!”
Wonder what the tool wear will be like? I mean you can do this feed rate but if it wears the tool out faster than a more normal feed rate?
Wow!!!! that's Crazy! Boom!!!!
Literally the Craziest Cut of All FU$?1*G TIME! Holy moley!
I second this 😂
it's a reasonable 0.103 ipt the radial engagement is very low at 0.020 but the sfm is prety high at 2552 the big diameter will help with chip tinning add the high flute count and you'll get to 2000 ipm as I said the feed per tooth is reasonable it's the sfm that will wear out the tool quicker than it should and that's why the titanium coating is key for the success of this cut hence the high sfm, I'm just saying that this is not sorcery it's just engineering, the engineering of this cut is amazing trying to make something do crazy things it wasn't made to do like this tool that is made to finish titanium is being used as a steel rougher.
Ok so a few things come to mind here.
First off 2k IPM is cool for sure congrats on that.
Second thought here is .02 radial step over with the RPM and endmill Size in consideration are you really pushing the limits here?
Third if you really think your pushing the limits next comes in tool life management and how long does the endmill last per parts and contract. Sometimes just because we can do something doesn’t mean we should kennametal tooling is amazing but the price of them is high do we really want to wear out the edges of the tools to be able to go that fast when we could have went with a slower RPM,bigger step over and slower feed rate still getting maximum MMR out of cutter and gain in tool life?
Have to see the pros and cons before we call this a success story. Yes it cut the part and that is impressive on its own but now we have to actually think realistically if it is business smart and cost effective.
I could not agree with you more. Its funny reading to the comments of people that don't have to pay for their cutters or have even ran a CNC. Not much of a chip load as those are needles in there.
MMPM 25k
with 10mm widia (jongen end mill) on brass
1 radial
with an Haas Vf-3
ISO program with only G0