Refresher 1. Dash Dance (Short long platforms etc.) 2. Wavedashes (to ledge) 3. Practice recovering (Up-B) 4. SHFFL (Nair especially) 5. L cancel Dair 6. Instant double jump Aerials 7. Sheild pressure/ beat sheild grabs 8. Kill Setups Homework: Do them all 7 times without messing up Practice many times a week/ every day if possible
Falco drills please! Also 64 Falcon, 64 Falcon is a buffed falcon without a knee and upthrow/down throw. If I remember correctly his throws kill, his smash attacks kill earlier than falcon in melee, up b is a kill move/combo finisher and the Falcon Punch is ridiculously fast to come out in 64, you don't really want to challenge it. Add l-cancel to all this and ridiculous 0 to death combo and shield pressure... Hyes!
SSBM Tutorials Thanks for your response man! This RUclips channel is one the best things to happen to the smash community in a while! I was so lost trying to figure this stuff out without practice buddies or a big smash scene around me!
just want to say even though this is old, people still use this in 2023! I've been getting into melee back and forth and finally found people to play with. Your tutorials and videos have really helped me who I like which is super hard since im super indecisive. Going to go to Verdugo West in Gardena, CA this monday for first local ever. Hope to see more content!
64 Falcon would destroy melee falcon. Literally one grab and it's a touch of death. No DI can save you. One touch, one kill. Not even to mention how broken Z-cancels are compared to L-cancels. Also if Melee falcon would suffer 64 shield stun, it's not even a question. Though honestly I guess it really depends on where the crossover happens. Does the 64 character suffer 64 hitstun or melee hitstun when hit by a melee character? Same for shieldstun. What about DI? Melee falcon's neutral is probably better and his recovery is better, but assuming he has them in this scenario, you can't beat guaranteed one touch kills off of any hit.
+QuagsireCrotchKick I think melee falcon would whoop 64 falcon to the moon. If 64 falcon has 64 smash mechanics, then that means his hit stun is going to last *forever* and that's just combo food for melee falcon. One hit into the air could possibly just lead to a full death combo. Not to mention how much faster melee falcon is. Actually I don't see a single point where 64 falcon would beat melee falcon, since melee falcon has melee mechanics and in turn would not have as long of his stun in the air, so his combos wouldn't work as well as they do in 64. So it's not unreasonable to believe that since 64 falcon's long hitstun would be the death of him.
+TheTjerty There are a few things you did missed on 64 falcon. (1). 64 falcon has a zero to death combo, and since melee falcon has the highest gravity in the game, it'll work on him well. If he DI's out, there's a punish for it. (2.) Although 64 falcon gets a lot of hitstun, his l-cancels are instant, not half the frames. So he'll break melee falcon's shield and can extend his combos across the stage.(3.) 64 falcon can juggle melee falcon with his upsmash, and follow him up with down-smash, things melee falcon's cannot do.(4.) 64 falcon's "stomp" is a spike, not a meteor, which goes in the same direction as falco's dair, and has a lasting hitbox. Melee falcon will not come back from it after 45% likely.(5.) 64's forward smash and fair outrange melee's variants.(6.) 64's back throw can kill, and forward throw starts a combo always. It's impossible to get out of his grab too.(7.) 64's moves will always trade if both are in the air, so threats like dair and uair will hit airborne melee falcon who doesn't airdogde.Other than that, melee falcon wins in most other categories, like recovery and movement options. It's confusing trying to wonder whether who'd have more priority lol
I think the biggest thing people forget in cross-title matchups is the hitstun/knockback mechanics. It is decided by the move itself first and the recipient's weight/damage second. ie: 64 Falcon doesn't "receive" 64 hitstun, so much as whatever hitstun the move he gets hit by deals, and vice-versa. DI is a more ambiguous one, but I believe this is also decided by the move itself. For example, any combos that 64 falcon can perform on fast fallers in 64 remain true against Melee Falcon, and Melee Falcon will still need to read the DI for a combo like Stomp > Knee to hit.
64 falcon for sure. He's the only character afaik in that game that has both a combo throw and kill throw. His up air to up b kill combo is intense. His dair is GODLIKE. Lingering spike for days.
I love Smash 64 but Falcon in that game is super lame. He has one combo that's incredibly easy to pull off. You just spam up air and then finish with either a dair, up B or Falcon punch. Melee Falcon on the other hand is a beast. He's got a great sense of speed, has the coolest combos and can MOONWALK. Case closed.
+Miles Law Well wouldn't 64 mechanics work against himself versing melee falcon? 64 hitstun is humongous compared to melee. Not to mention melee falcon's speed. He could juggle that bitch for days just using nair.
Damn that's a tricky one. Melee falcon has significantly better raw finishers but 64 falcon as near unbreakable combos. Melee falcon already has hard times getting out of juggles from the likes of Marth which i think would ultimately give 64 falcon the win here. Not even to mention if 64 doesn't just get all 0-death juggle combos 64 falcon has amazing edge guards with just reverse up-air. I don't think it would be pure domination since melee falcon still can juggle and end with knee easily but i don't think it would be enough. All in all 64 falcon takes it!
+HydreigonMaster635 My interpretation of the Mechanics stuff is that 64 falcon would take more hitstun than Melee Falcon, which is basically the reason 64 is a 0-to-death farm. If characters had less hitstun the 64 0-deaths would be really rare.
Melee Falcon would win. His added mobility over 64 would give him the advantage in neutral. His shield pressure, combined with the insanely long shield stun in 64, would make nearly all of his moves safe of shield, and could probably lead into a shield break. 64 Falcon won't be able to pressure shield nearly as well because Melee's shield doesn't have anywhere near the amount of shield stun 64 has. 64 would probably be able to get his crazy zero to death combos on Melee Falcon, but Melee Falcon should never lose neutral as he is faster in every way. Overall, Melee Falcon has the better neutral and shield pressure, while 64 Falcon has better combos. Melee wins.
(It said melee mechanics actually), I mean that's the misunderstanding people have been having; the argument is whether 64 moves cause 64 or melee reactions. If it's melee then CF can escape, if it's 64 no. I interpret as because Melee Falcon has Melee Falcon's mechanics/physics, so DI and meteor cancelling absolutely would be a thing. If you interpret it the other way, no biggie. That's really the deciding factor in my opinion. If melee CF can escape combos then his movement advantage should secure him the win.
64 Falcon. No knee, but extremely good juggles on fast fallers (which is what Melee Falcon is), no lag on Z-cancelled aerials, only reliable escape from combos is SDI, and his Falcon Punch is way stronger, faster, and more reliable.
Hey Kira! I finally got down falcos ledge hop double laser and I'm improving my multishines . Could you make a video that focuses on falcos grab options . I'm finding it pretty difficult to find an effective way to tech chase or atleast follow up when my opponent techs away
Question on the wars of characters in different games: When a character has "Smash 64 mechanics" or "brawl mechanics" or whatever, does that mean that their combo game carries over, or the hitstun they experience in their own game carries over? I saw people saying that fox wouldn't be able to touch metaknight because MK doesn't experience hitstun, but that MK could destroy fox because fox would be just as combo-able as he was in melee. In this one I think 64 Falcon loses badly if he experiences smash 64 hitstun but has a chance of winning if he has his 64 combo game instead.
Another tip for people that don't have 20XX. If you wanna practice your timing on airials and L-cancel, you could always set handicap ON and launch rate at 0.5x. Play against bowser, and put his handicap on 9 and your own at 1. That way you can use bowser as a punching bag so you know the timing on your moves when they connect.
Bro easy answer. Melee falcon would win by a landslide. n64 falcon has limited tech, and movement options compared to melee falcon. The shield has a bunch of stun, making him more prone to pressure, and the knee really just beats all. The only thing I can think of is that n64 falcon has that craazy DI mechanic, where you can DI into the stage. Not as feasible in melee. And of course while both recovery suck, n64 recoveries are exceptionally bad in general.
captain falcon's nair should not be your most used aerial, the first hit trades badly with everything, the second hit is the only one worth anything. for that reason you shouldn't SHFFL as fast as you can, because you're missing that meaty second hit. instant up air is a much better choice in like 95% of close range encounters. good OOS option too.
I'm also curious, especially with the last one being brawl MK and melee Fox, the hitstun is determined by who is hitting or who is being hitted? Say N64 Falcon gets a hit, Melee Falcon would have N64 or Melee hitstun? And if Melee Falcon comes up with a nair or knee and N64 Falcon shields it, how long would N64 shield stun would be? Depending on how this answers would come up it could go either way. Either way, my vote on melee Falcon
tough, you could say falcon 64, because his moves have high hitstun on his opponents, his combos are simple and effective, his normal moves have more knockback, his dair is a true spike, his falcon punch can actually be used for horizontal recovery. you could also say melee falcon, bc his grabs have more options, he has the knee, his falcon kick resets his jump, his combos lead to consistent zero to death/low % to death, plus his sick style😏. i'd bet my vote on n64 falcon, just more overall powerful and guaranteed with an op stomp, though melee falcon is very fun to watch.
hey don't remember you covering it in any videos [maybe I missed it], but how do you DI for dropzone knees? or if you have the time could you do a video for dropzone setups? main problem is I never make it back and have tried different things. It just seems that n0ne can go super deep and make it back out of nowhere
thanks for the quick reply, don't think its the fastfalling because thats literally all I focused on I'll definitely check, but I remember just thinking "the knee won't come out fast enough/I can't jump out fast enough I don't get why it won't" is there any kind of quirk like how for Marth triple fair you want to jump with the joy stick?
lots of people have their own "quirks", there is no trick to it other than pressing A the moment you walk off the ledge. With Marth you don't have to jump with the joy stick, most people don't do it that way. 99% of techniques in this game are personal preference and there is no 'best' way to do anything
Even though PewPewU covered a lot of Marth practice drills, I'd really like your insights on those. Maybe only as a comment reply? That'd be great :) Also, great video, makes me want to practice a bit Falcon as I'm quite awful with it with the exception of Knee hard reads.
+Mathieu Amiot Very great but didn't go over all of the techniques needed. However what he did go over was done very well imo. I use his routine once in awhile to keep things fresh but a lot of people I know usually work on new things
Can you do one of this with mid-low tiers? like Link, YLink, Mewtwo, Ganon, etc. I know top tiers are the meta but I think you can mix it up time to time :)
Depending on the stage 64 falcon would destroy melee falcon because what is hitlag? But if the stage is FD i wouldnt have a clue, not sure on what 64 neutral is like
When you're using nair for comboing, you don't fast fall it so that the second hit connects, right? My problem is that I always fastfall it and only get the weak hit.
+kapzillion1997 This is a great question. Both by having a perfect angle on the stick and by Airdodging as soon as jump squat ends (which for falcon would be after 4 frames). It's somewhat tough to tell if you aren't doing frame-by-frame but if you watch the video I do some that are pretty close if not perfect so you can go off of that
+SSBM Tutorials I honestly think 64 Falcon would win, I always thought he was easier to play as and he was beast. His Falcon Punch was a guaranteed win.
okay so I once saw a CF video that had all the combos in it, like the gentleman, the downthrow to knee, upthrow to knee and so on. what happened to them?
does nair on shield beat shieldgrab? 2:46 does it depend on character? i tried it against marth on 20xx 3.02 and i got grabbed everytime unless i didn't fastfall until after the second hit. what is the science here?
Considering how 64 Falcon doesn't have access to the same DI as Melee Falcon, both can punish each other close to the same, and Melee Falcon has better movement. Melee Falcon wins.
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Refresher
1. Dash Dance (Short long platforms etc.)
2. Wavedashes (to ledge)
3. Practice recovering (Up-B)
4. SHFFL (Nair especially)
5. L cancel Dair
6. Instant double jump Aerials
7. Sheild pressure/ beat sheild grabs
8. Kill Setups
Homework:
Do them all 7 times without messing up
Practice many times a week/ every day if possible
Did he just walk up and down smash my usual tech skill routine?
+MrJimmyJammers PeoplesChamp
+MrJimmyJammers Yes. Slowly.
Is this a llr meme?
tutorial on how to show moves please
+B-Dog Go as captain falcon in melee and press up on the D-pad
+theteamplaya1 or l in 64
How to show m̶o̶v̶e̶s̶ boobs:
1- Be Falcon
2- Press up on d-pad
2- take off shirt
3 - ???
4 - profit
I will give you money for that falcon punish tutorial
1. Stomp > knee
2. how much
Lol
liar, theres no such video
Falco drills please!
Also 64 Falcon, 64 Falcon is a buffed falcon without a knee and upthrow/down throw. If I remember correctly his throws kill, his smash attacks kill earlier than falcon in melee, up b is a kill move/combo finisher and the Falcon Punch is ridiculously fast to come out in 64, you don't really want to challenge it. Add l-cancel to all this and ridiculous 0 to death combo and shield pressure... Hyes!
Could you guys do a video on Captain Falcon's movement if you have not already: Dash dances, wave dashes, moon walks, sticky walks, wave lands, etc?
Hey man, big ups for all your tuts! Better quality than any other on RUclips and easily capable of improving anybody's game. Keep up the great work!
Can you do one of these for most of the top tiers? I'd really love to hear input on Falco practice as well.
+Nibblenub we will. there is some mini shield pressure practice on an earlier falco vid
SSBM Tutorials Thanks for your response man! This RUclips channel is one the best things to happen to the smash community in a while! I was so lost trying to figure this stuff out without practice buddies or a big smash scene around me!
just want to say even though this is old, people still use this in 2023! I've been getting into melee back and forth and finally found people to play with. Your tutorials and videos have really helped me who I like which is super hard since im super indecisive. Going to go to Verdugo West in Gardena, CA this monday for first local ever. Hope to see more content!
64 Falcon would destroy melee falcon. Literally one grab and it's a touch of death. No DI can save you. One touch, one kill. Not even to mention how broken Z-cancels are compared to L-cancels. Also if Melee falcon would suffer 64 shield stun, it's not even a question.
Though honestly I guess it really depends on where the crossover happens. Does the 64 character suffer 64 hitstun or melee hitstun when hit by a melee character? Same for shieldstun. What about DI?
Melee falcon's neutral is probably better and his recovery is better, but assuming he has them in this scenario, you can't beat guaranteed one touch kills off of any hit.
PichuLord 64 falcon is so lame
@@dmoc7546 better than watching a fox or falco beat a nationals
John Zhou no
John Zhou falco and fox are more than d throw up air, I like 64 but falcon is lame in 64
melee falcon could break out of the falcon standard, because of his fall speed
Fox drills please! Great video btw Kira
+Nickt97 Dair. There you go.
+Gino Parra *Dair you go
the Rick and Morty reference god speed Kira
and 64 falcon without a doubt.
+QuagsireCrotchKick AIDS
+QuagsireCrotchKick I think melee falcon would whoop 64 falcon to the moon. If 64 falcon has 64 smash mechanics, then that means his hit stun is going to last *forever* and that's just combo food for melee falcon. One hit into the air could possibly just lead to a full death combo. Not to mention how much faster melee falcon is. Actually I don't see a single point where 64 falcon would beat melee falcon, since melee falcon has melee mechanics and in turn would not have as long of his stun in the air, so his combos wouldn't work as well as they do in 64. So it's not unreasonable to believe that since 64 falcon's long hitstun would be the death of him.
+TheTjerty There are a few things you did missed on 64 falcon. (1). 64 falcon has a zero to death combo, and since melee falcon has the highest gravity in the game, it'll work on him well. If he DI's out, there's a punish for it. (2.) Although 64 falcon gets a lot of hitstun, his l-cancels are instant, not half the frames. So he'll break melee falcon's shield and can extend his combos across the stage.(3.) 64 falcon can juggle melee falcon with his upsmash, and follow him up with down-smash, things melee falcon's cannot do.(4.) 64 falcon's "stomp" is a spike, not a meteor, which goes in the same direction as falco's dair, and has a lasting hitbox. Melee falcon will not come back from it after 45% likely.(5.) 64's forward smash and fair outrange melee's variants.(6.) 64's back throw can kill, and forward throw starts a combo always. It's impossible to get out of his grab too.(7.) 64's moves will always trade if both are in the air, so threats like dair and uair will hit airborne melee falcon who doesn't airdogde.Other than that, melee falcon wins in most other categories, like recovery and movement options. It's confusing trying to wonder whether who'd have more priority lol
+johnnycage2323 Knee of justice > anything
i love the knee as much as the next guy, but that alone isn't going to decide who'd win.
Good stuff guys, keep it up. as always I'd love to see another samus video but am good with whatever comes out next.
I really like this! Would love to see a video for other characters in the future.
Sp1nda lol hi sp1nda
I think the biggest thing people forget in cross-title matchups is the hitstun/knockback mechanics. It is decided by the move itself first and the recipient's weight/damage second. ie: 64 Falcon doesn't "receive" 64 hitstun, so much as whatever hitstun the move he gets hit by deals, and vice-versa. DI is a more ambiguous one, but I believe this is also decided by the move itself.
For example, any combos that 64 falcon can perform on fast fallers in 64 remain true against Melee Falcon, and Melee Falcon will still need to read the DI for a combo like Stomp > Knee to hit.
64 falcon for sure. He's the only character afaik in that game that has both a combo throw and kill throw. His up air to up b kill combo is intense. His dair is GODLIKE. Lingering spike for days.
+Jeremy Martin meteor cancel
+Beanhero50 no, meteors don't exist in 64, everything spikes
+crazykid2710 but melee falcon has melee mechanics, therefore meteor cancel is activated
kira really should of clarified when mechanics from each game clash, which game's mechanics are valid
+crazykid2710 for sure, hard to know without that knowledge
This is great! I'd be down to see this kind of video with a bunch of different characters!
I love Smash 64 but Falcon in that game is super lame. He has one combo that's incredibly easy to pull off. You just spam up air and then finish with either a dair, up B or Falcon punch.
Melee Falcon on the other hand is a beast. He's got a great sense of speed, has the coolest combos and can MOONWALK. Case closed.
It is a matter of who would win with their mechanics, not who is more pleasing to the eye.
***** My B.
+Miles Law but falcons live to be pleading to the eye
+Prefesuersheen pleasing*
+Miles Law Well wouldn't 64 mechanics work against himself versing melee falcon? 64 hitstun is humongous compared to melee. Not to mention melee falcon's speed. He could juggle that bitch for days just using nair.
Can you make a video on how to study your opponents? Please? I really need to start doing that
+IronWolf Alchemist ya i do that a lot actually
Damn that's a tricky one. Melee falcon has significantly better raw finishers but 64 falcon as near unbreakable combos. Melee falcon already has hard times getting out of juggles from the likes of Marth which i think would ultimately give 64 falcon the win here. Not even to mention if 64 doesn't just get all 0-death juggle combos 64 falcon has amazing edge guards with just reverse up-air. I don't think it would be pure domination since melee falcon still can juggle and end with knee easily but i don't think it would be enough.
All in all 64 falcon takes it!
+HydreigonMaster635 My interpretation of the Mechanics stuff is that 64 falcon would take more hitstun than Melee Falcon, which is basically the reason 64 is a 0-to-death farm. If characters had less hitstun the 64 0-deaths would be really rare.
I think 64 falcon loses because he's super slow... in comparison.
+thesessygiraffe Ohhh boy he is not
I don't really play c fal, but I think I'm gonna do this regiment a few times. Thanks for this!
this is like waking up on christmas morning, thx for the vid!
this vid is great timing lol. was just about to look how to not waste my time i spent playing alone. great vid man
pretty important when short hop knee to jab grab. to knee as low to the ground as possible.
Melee Falcon would win. His added mobility over 64 would give him the advantage in neutral. His shield pressure, combined with the insanely long shield stun in 64, would make nearly all of his moves safe of shield, and could probably lead into a shield break.
64 Falcon won't be able to pressure shield nearly as well because Melee's shield doesn't have anywhere near the amount of shield stun 64 has. 64 would probably be able to get his crazy zero to death combos on Melee Falcon, but Melee Falcon should never lose neutral as he is faster in every way.
Overall, Melee Falcon has the better neutral and shield pressure, while 64 Falcon has better combos.
Melee wins.
thanks for this video.it has helped tremendously.the people i play with where wondering how I got so much better so fast.
I'm Gonna show my moves thanks to this video!!
Thank you!!
Falco drills ! And 64's juggles on fastfallers are too strong for melee falcon to win imo
But melee falcon could DI out too
+Jalen VanHoeven 64 hitstun wont allow DI, you go straight up
Matheus Vasiliauskas Soares melee falcon has melee physics right? Therefore you can DI.
Actually no, the hitstun inquestion in 64, meaning that Falcon melee physics wont be a factor, same with shieldstun
(It said melee mechanics actually), I mean that's the misunderstanding people have been having; the argument is whether 64 moves cause 64 or melee reactions. If it's melee then CF can escape, if it's 64 no. I interpret as because Melee Falcon has Melee Falcon's mechanics/physics, so DI and meteor cancelling absolutely would be a thing. If you interpret it the other way, no biggie. That's really the deciding factor in my opinion. If melee CF can escape combos then his movement advantage should secure him the win.
drills was a great idea! please keep them up! maybe a fox or a marth drill next?
Solid Rick and Morty reference, proud of you.
Where's that falcon punish game tutorial??
I want it so bad
that would be nice
That Rick reference at the end. Made me wish I could sub more than once.
Nice Rick and Morty reference at the end
How do you get the cpu to hold shield like that in 20XX?
It can help with multishine practice.
+xRePullse We have a 20XX guide video on our channel, it will answer your question!
64 Falcon. No knee, but extremely good juggles on fast fallers (which is what Melee Falcon is), no lag on Z-cancelled aerials, only reliable escape from combos is SDI, and his Falcon Punch is way stronger, faster, and more reliable.
Hey Kira! I finally got down falcos ledge hop double laser and I'm improving my multishines . Could you make a video that focuses on falcos grab options . I'm finding it pretty difficult to find an effective way to tech chase or atleast follow up when my opponent techs away
+JBpaperstacks123 usually do upthrow. but yeah we'll get to it
Smash 64 Falcon no doubt. Increased hitstun makes the followups so much more consistent and devastating.
Question on the wars of characters in different games: When a character has "Smash 64 mechanics" or "brawl mechanics" or whatever, does that mean that their combo game carries over, or the hitstun they experience in their own game carries over? I saw people saying that fox wouldn't be able to touch metaknight because MK doesn't experience hitstun, but that MK could destroy fox because fox would be just as combo-able as he was in melee. In this one I think 64 Falcon loses badly if he experiences smash 64 hitstun but has a chance of winning if he has his 64 combo game instead.
Melee falcon can dance circles around 64's falcon
My votes on melee falcon
More Falcon :D
Another tip for people that don't have 20XX. If you wanna practice your timing on airials and L-cancel, you could always set handicap ON and launch rate at 0.5x. Play against bowser, and put his handicap on 9 and your own at 1. That way you can use bowser as a punching bag so you know the timing on your moves when they connect.
or just get 20XX lol
+the metapod you can't get 20xx on GameCube
Peter Kinnaman shut up
You can play regular melee
The non-crashing edition
Melee falcon can dd and actually sheild, so I give it to him, despite the skewed punish game.
Bro easy answer. Melee falcon would win by a landslide. n64 falcon has limited tech, and movement options compared to melee falcon. The shield has a bunch of stun, making him more prone to pressure, and the knee really just beats all. The only thing I can think of is that n64 falcon has that craazy DI mechanic, where you can DI into the stage. Not as feasible in melee. And of course while both recovery suck, n64 recoveries are exceptionally bad in general.
how are you turning on the green thing for when you're standing still?
+Hollowpictures 20XX hack pack. check our tutorials on it
yoo ssbm tuts, I got it working like right after lol. thanks for responding though.
captain falcon's nair should not be your most used aerial, the first hit trades badly with everything, the second hit is the only one worth anything. for that reason you shouldn't SHFFL as fast as you can, because you're missing that meaty second hit. instant up air is a much better choice in like 95% of close range encounters. good OOS option too.
This. THIS! Thank for for THIS!
Marth drills?
+yinyang0427 ever heard of ippo's marth tutorials?
+yinyang0427 Also I think PewPewU has a good one
I love this Falcon much more than Sm4sh's
Great video.
64 Falcon would probably take it.
Melee Falcon for the fucking win.
I'm also curious, especially with the last one being brawl MK and melee Fox, the hitstun is determined by who is hitting or who is being hitted? Say N64 Falcon gets a hit, Melee Falcon would have N64 or Melee hitstun? And if Melee Falcon comes up with a nair or knee and N64 Falcon shields it, how long would N64 shield stun would be? Depending on how this answers would come up it could go either way. Either way, my vote on melee Falcon
I've been looking everywhere for Marth drills and can't seem to find any! I make my own, but want to change it up :p
+Homey999000 #1 thing practice short hop fair > dash back frame perfect
+Homey999000 Find PewPew University on youtube. Learn straight from the guy, fantastic
Can you make a Shiek practice video? Thanks!
Can you show us C. Falcon Cool Combo tricks or Combos.
That hitstun is crazy. 64 for sure
Melee Falcon. Using melee mechanics, he can use di, not just sdi, to escape from the u-air combos.
about the character war at the end...is the hitstun determened by the hit from the character or the character being hit?^^
tough, you could say falcon 64, because his moves have high hitstun on his opponents, his combos are simple and effective, his normal moves have more knockback, his dair is a true spike, his falcon punch can actually be used for horizontal recovery. you could also say melee falcon, bc his grabs have more options, he has the knee, his falcon kick resets his jump, his combos lead to consistent zero to death/low % to death, plus his sick style😏. i'd bet my vote on n64 falcon, just more overall powerful and guaranteed with an op stomp, though melee falcon is very fun to watch.
im leaving out differences in mechanics, i.e. wavedashing in melee and z cancelling > l cancelling
Can we please have the falcon punish game tutorial soon?
Do u think u can also do some project m tech and tutorials? That would be amazing
hey don't remember you covering it in any videos [maybe I missed it], but how do you DI for dropzone knees? or if you have the time could you do a video for dropzone setups? main problem is I never make it back and have tried different things. It just seems that n0ne can go super deep and make it back out of nowhere
you either aren't doing the knee soon enough, you're not double jumping soon enough, or you're fastfalling
thanks for the quick reply, don't think its the fastfalling because thats literally all I focused on
I'll definitely check, but I remember just thinking "the knee won't come out fast enough/I can't jump out fast enough I don't get why it won't" is there any kind of quirk like how for Marth triple fair you want to jump with the joy stick?
lots of people have their own "quirks", there is no trick to it other than pressing A the moment you walk off the ledge.
With Marth you don't have to jump with the joy stick, most people don't do it that way. 99% of techniques in this game are personal preference and there is no 'best' way to do anything
awesome, thanks for all the help [here and overall with the channel!], super happy to see you reply even on older videos out of the blue haha
Could you do a Marth guide against Shiek? I just went to a tournament and got 4th because both of my losses were Shieks.
Sooooo when's that Falcon punish game tutorial coming out?
Great videos, man! Keep it up!
Anyone know the music that was used?
+NafitzK its called electronic avalanche by joel jungell. Found here player.epidemicsound.com/#/search/?search_query=avalanche
id love to see some falco drills
YES FINALLY FALCON STUFF
Even though PewPewU covered a lot of Marth practice drills, I'd really like your insights on those. Maybe only as a comment reply? That'd be great :)
Also, great video, makes me want to practice a bit Falcon as I'm quite awful with it with the exception of Knee hard reads.
+Mathieu Amiot Very great but didn't go over all of the techniques needed. However what he did go over was done very well imo. I use his routine once in awhile to keep things fresh but a lot of people I know usually work on new things
Sheik drills would be very much appreciated. I never know what to practice.
Can you do one of this with mid-low tiers? like Link, YLink, Mewtwo, Ganon, etc. I know top tiers are the meta but I think you can mix it up time to time :)
Depending on the stage 64 falcon would destroy melee falcon because what is hitlag? But if the stage is FD i wouldnt have a clue, not sure on what 64 neutral is like
is it worth it to learn falcon if i just want to have fun and not always be super serious on a friendly setup?
+Randomchallenger yes
melee falcon might win, ive seen spam for 64 falcon up air up air to up b combos
Can you make a video on punish game and ways to recover with captain falcon
When you're using nair for comboing, you don't fast fall it so that the second hit connects, right? My problem is that I always fastfall it and only get the weak hit.
I'm really late, but yes, you fast fall it. If the second hit doesn't come out, you're not inputting the nair fast enough after the short hop.
How do I know if I get a perfect wavedash? how would i perform one? A more precise angle on the stick?
+kapzillion1997 This is a great question. Both by having a perfect angle on the stick and by Airdodging as soon as jump squat ends (which for falcon would be after 4 frames). It's somewhat tough to tell if you aren't doing frame-by-frame but if you watch the video I do some that are pretty close if not perfect so you can go off of that
Melee falcon since the additional melee techs not in 64 would give him an advantage
Melee Falcon would just end up running circles around 64 falcon. EZ win for Melee Falcon.
REQUEST : HOW TO PRACTICE GANONDORF?
Gray yeah man here
1.switch to falcon
Love the rick and morty reference
Cmon, Kira, I already thought I had a lot of homework.
+Skylark which hw would you rather do =)
=)
+SSBM Tutorials Why didn't you include Gentleman practice?
I only know 1 way to gentleman and wanted a more comprehensive guide
+SSBM Tutorials I honestly think 64 Falcon would win, I always thought he was easier to play as and he was beast. His Falcon Punch was a guaranteed win.
Love the rick and Morty reference
Still want that falcon overview video!
64 falcon could juggle melee falcon with ease, his combos are ridiculous.
thinking melee falcon would be too heavy to combo as 64 falcon so I'll go melee falcon because he probably would combo harder
How do I consistently get electric knees? Sometimes its just a regular one and it doesn't finish people at all.
+Greenhatguy It's electric at the start of the move
SSBM Tutorials oh, so its better to start the move when you're opponent is in the hit box rather than slightly ahead of time.
Well, it's not instant, but there is a timing to it. If you didn't get the strong hit of the knee then you probably hit them too late
Hey could you make some doc neutral game tutorials?
As awesome as melee falcon is my vote is for the 64 falcon touch of death.
okay so I once saw a CF video that had all the combos in it, like the gentleman, the downthrow to knee, upthrow to knee and so on. what happened to them?
that's not "all the combos", those are just some basics.
Where are all the combos?
coming soon (tm)
Melee Falcon without a doubt
64 Falcon for sure. The combos are easier and up-b even kills? Lmao.
N64 falcon all the way, 5 up airs to an up b for every mistake you make can be pretty heavy.
Melee Falcon hell yeah!
I'd love to see one for Marth
Oh Melee falcon by a long shot
Add wizzys Falcon guide to the description it's not on the 20gx channel
When are we getting more videos on Samus? ;_;
y u du dis sumus ?
does nair on shield beat shieldgrab? 2:46
does it depend on character? i tried it against marth on 20xx 3.02 and i got grabbed everytime unless i didn't fastfall until after the second hit. what is the science here?
not by itself exactly, thats just because the cpu there tried to grab between the 1st and 2nd hit of nair.
God I love falcon
Is it better to C stick or forward + A for drop zone? In particular on Yoshis? Anyone have insight?
Don't know I main yosho
Considering how 64 Falcon doesn't have access to the same DI as Melee Falcon, both can punish each other close to the same, and Melee Falcon has better movement. Melee Falcon wins.