AMD X670E Extreme Chipset, 20Gbps USB-C and Gigabyte Aorus Gen5 AIC
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2022
- We're Going to cover 3 Technologies with this Video today. 1. AMD Chipset X670 Extreme. 2. 20Gbps USB-C 2x2. 3. Gigabyte Aorus Gen5 AIC which is a X16 Card that requires 4x4x4x4, 16 Lanes, fully Bifurcated. Of the 4 Requirements... 1. PCIe 5.0. 2; A X16 PCIe Slot; 3. Full Motherboard Bios Bifurcation of 4x4x4x4; 4. Requires 4 M.2 NVMe PCIe 5.0 Drives. 1st Generation of those will be 10,000MBps per Drive. The Spec for PCIe 5.0 NVMe can take that to 15,000MBps per Drive. Expect to see 3 Generations of NVMe Drives just as We had on PCIe 4.0. We'll be looking at the Phison E26 Controller when the times comes with Micron Memory. Of the 5 Motherboard Manufacturers, We're going to show 2 for an Overview and Implementation of PCIe 5.0 with Slots and Storage and what it takes to utilize the Aorus Gen5 AIC. We'll cover USB-C DisplayPort Alternate mode and Thunderbolt / USB4 PCIe Tunneling over USB4.
X670E Design vs Implementation - Consumer Desktop Motherboard
Faster CPU
Faster Chipset
Faster RAM
CPU Core count remains the same.
PCIe Lane count remains same.
Slots and Storage
USB-C can support 3 Technologies...
1. Data
2. USB Power Delivery
3. DP Alt Mode - DisplayPort Alternate-Mode
10Gbps USB-C - DP ALT Mode
20Gbps USB-C 2x2
40Gbps Thunderbolt 4 or USB4 - PCIe Tunneling over USB4
Thunderbolt 4 (Intel Maple Ridge JHL8540) or USB4 (ASMedia ASM4242).
Question: Lane count. Does a Device use 2 Lanes or 4 Lanes. Built on vs Add in card. Depends!
Video Links:
1. AMD at Computex 2022
www.amd.com/en/events/computex
2. X670E AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.0) Key Features - Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global
www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/...
3. ROG CROSSHAIR X670E EXTREME - ROG Crosshair - Gaming Motherboards｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global
rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog...
4. ROG ushers in the next generation of PC performance with the ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme - ROG - Republic of Gamers Global
rog.asus.com/articles/maximus...
5. The Best X670E & B650 motherboards for AMD Ryzen 7000 Series CPUs｜ROG Gamescom 2022
www.asus.com/microsite/mother...
6. AMD Zen 4 Ryzen 7000 Specs, Release Date, Benchmarks, Price Listings - Tom's Hardware
www.tomshardware.com/news/amd...
7. AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs to Support DDR5-5200 Memory Out of the Box- 2 Channels Per DIMM - Hardware Times
www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryz...
8. BIOSTAR Finalizes Design of the X670E Valkyrie Socket AM5 Motherboard - TechPowerUp}
www.techpowerup.com/298164/bi...
9. GIGABYTE Unveils AORUS Gen5 AIC Adaptor with 4 Built-in NVMe M.2 Slots - News - GIGABYTE U.S.A-
www.gigabyte.com/us/Press/New...
10. AMD's High-End X670E Motherboards From ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, ASRock & Biostar Detailed
wccftech.com/amd-high-end-x67...
11. ROG STRIX Z590-E GAMING WIFI
rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/...
12. PC Builder - PCPartPicker
pcpartpicker.com/list/
13. Intel JHL8540 Thunderbolt 4 Controller Product Specifications
ark.intel.com/content/www/us/...
14. Intel JHL8440 Thunderbolt 4 Controller Product Specifications
ark.intel.com/content/www/us/...
15. ASM3242-ASMedia Technology Inc-
www.asmedia.com.tw/product/E0...
16. ASMedia to Launch USB4 Host-Controllers This Year - TechPowerUp
www.techpowerup.com/295030/as...
17. AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs to Draw up to 230W, AVX-512, 28 PCIe 5.0 CPU Lanes, 3D V-Cache Confirmed; ST Perf was Underhyped- Hallock
www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ryz...
18. Two AMD X670 Promontory 21 chipsets reportedly cost less than one X570 chipset - VideoCardz.com
videocardz.com/newz/two-amd-x...
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Thanks for ALL your testing & analysis. Greatly appreciated!
Hi Steve Palmer,
Welcome! Thank You for Your Comments! Very Much Appreciated!
Can't wait for your overviews of all these new boards.
Hi JayzBeerz,
An honor! Once We have full documentation then We can go through them thoroughly one by one. This is an Overview of the Chipset and relates that to the Aorus Gen5 AIC requirements plus 20Gbps USB-C and Thunderbolt 4 / USB4. Lots of Technology Info in play here!
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Thank you! Saved me a lot of specification reading.
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Welcome! Yes, lots of reading to digest until We get Real Specs to get all the Facts and Details! Now looks like USB4 is going to be PCIe 4.0 capable of 64Gbps using either Native Chipset support or through ASMedia ASM4242 Chipset. USB4 2.0 will up to 80Gbps! Whew! Have to wonder how long will that take. Furthermore, USB-C is not a robust Connector! We do know however, AMD is committed to DDR5! We wonder what the next Platform iteration might be with DDR5. At this point, Up for conjecture. Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching!
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Welcome! Thank You! We're working on a 20Gbps USB-C Video to get more in-depth on What's available!
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Appreciate Your Comments! Thank You for Watching!
Looking forward to you looking at some of these boards once they're released, and letting us all know how we stand with expansion options.
What's important for folks to realise is that it'll be a long time before any GPU maxes out a 16 lane PCIe4 slot - never mind a x16 PCIe5 slot (even the new cards incoming). This means that they most certainly don't need to populate that primary 'main event' slot. What we will need to know is by how far we can 'downgrade' before fps/throughput is 'significantly' impacted. Can we, for example, go down to PCIe5 x4 slot? (= PCIe 4 x8 = PCIe3 x16) - if the answer is yes (for many use cases) then that opens up more possibilities.
Hi Alexis K,
Welcome! Appreciate Your Comments! Very good points! PCIe was about the GPU, however now it's about the M.2 NVMe PCIe Drives! We've had Viewer Reports about bottlenecks Rendering on PCIe 3.0 x4 but nothing above that yet.
And Gigabyte is Updating their data about the USB4 AIC being a separate future card now. Which will probably be based on the new ASMedia ASM4242 Chipset. That could be PCIe 3.0 or may be PCIe 4.0 which really opens up the Bandwidth for USB4 as an Add in card if true! And ASMedia worked with AMD on these new Chipsets! Fascinating! To reiterate what You said, Yes! To be able to install a GPU in a x4 Slot would really open up better PCIe Resource options. We shall see very soon! Thanks for Watching!
Hi Alexis K,
As USB4 unfolds, that's going to be PCIe 4.0 and on the Gigabyte X670E Motherboard, will be a future Add in card! Yes, a Motherboard Header will be Required just like for Thunderbolt 3 and Thunderbolt 4! Fascinating! And that's going to be capable of 80Gbps USB-C! Wow!
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Hi romain BAILET,
Much Appreciated!
Before the blizzard of "buy the top tier CPU if you call yourself an enthusiast" and how this new CPU is a must have regardless of expense, including the new motherboard (even though your current motherboard is only eight months old), and all of the DDR5 your new rig can stand so that you can get those extra 10 FPS on that $30 game, what I see is that AMD has taken the 5000 CPUs and modified existing products to stay within the parameters of a consumer motherboard. There's nothing wrong with that because some technologies and parts need to fade away anyway.
Eventually, if not sooner, CPU manufacturers are going to discover that system-on-a-chip (SOC) is going to be more profitable because eliminating the GPU and using integrated graphics is fairly common in the enterprise, which is where the money is. They have already eliminated the stock cooler, which reduces their manufacturing costs, so don't be surprised when integrated graphics become the best thing since sliced bread.
So now it's a matter of finding out that in order to give us this, they had to eliminate that. My guess is that the SATA support is going to be reduced if you going to have additional M.2 slots, which we have already explored.
My thing is that if you are a content creator, how much of a difference is the new architecture going to make; outside of additional speed, what else is a content creator going to get.
Hi Mike Quinton,
Appreciate Your Comments! And that's the better Part of the equation after the smoke, mirrors and dust settles. Absolutely nothing. The biggest takeaway, DDR5 is the Future with AMD. Looks like they're all in! And... Based on this Aorus Gen5 AIC requirements, something else is brewing!
I did hope AM5 a new socket would give us more I/O. 48 cpu lanes would be good.
Hi Max Hughes,
You bring up an interesting point. Something like the HEDT! Looks like We're seeing 3 Timelines running concurrently. Supply Chain, Manufacturers Products and Technology Specification changes from Design to Implementation. And each is different but none are mutually exclusive. That interaction has affected and blown out the HEDT. The Specs are changing that fast! Based on What We know by What's being said, something more is coming and soon but no one dare speak about yet until after this current product is released, distributed and paid for! Yes, more I/O makes perfect sense. To reiterate, We have 3 timelines in play now.
yes I think they will bring more io and better designs with further generations. AM4 was crap at first and same spec chaos like this. And same focus on gamers.
@@michael_mayer If AM5 has lots of unused cpu pins they could add lanes and more ram channels. If not, AMD thinks desktop pc's will never fill the gap to workstations.
Hi@@michael_mayer,
Welcome! Very good points! We expect this will be frustrating for lots of Builders initially until the kinks are ironed out through hopefully Bios and Firmware Updates or else Motherboard Revisions! We need better options! Dumping the HEDT is a Bummer for Content Creators! It was perfect in between Consumer Desktop Motherboards and Workstations! This is faster but not any more CPU Cores nor PCIe Lanes! And that's what We need! Appreciate Your Comments!
Hi@@maxhughes5687,
If AMD ever figures out marketing, they'd be dangerous! The HEDT was a perfect Platform in between the Consumer Desktop Motherboard and Workstation! Even sticking to 16 CPU Cores is getting stale. And with all of these I/O Devices Viewers want to Add, then find out after the fact why not. Like You stated, We also need more I/O!
Samsung DDR7 32000 MHz 1nm ;)
Hi Иван Брагин,
Interesting. Not a lot of Info out on that yet. That's a ways off but on the spectrum! And a great observation! Knowing that Technology is in the development channel could mean DD5 will be short lived since GDDR7 32,000MT/s is in the works! Good call! What We know right now is AMD is all in on DDR5, which means DDR4 is on the way out!
@@BuildOrBuy I plan to use ddr4 until 2030 - the guarantee is 10 years :)
Hi@@user-km7vz2xh2m,
Counting back from when We started using DDR4, that would be about 5 more years to the best of my recollection. We too plan on sticking with DDR4 a bit longer as well! Especially if We Build a WRX80 Workstation Threadripper Pro of the current variety!
Gigabyte x670e has two chipsets
Hi Farserpent
Welcome! Yes, You're correct. And what We're seeing based on Motherboard Block Diagrams is 1 - 20Gbps USB-C 2x2 to 1st Chipset and 1 - 20Gbps USB-C 2x2 to 2nd Chipset. Fascinating Chipset Configuration going back to a Northbridge and Southbridge Chipset Configuration. Or Chipset 1 and Chipset 2. We've seen both terminologies used. Appreciate Your Comments! Our next concern will be Latency if used for a ProAudio interface. Our next Video is Specifically about the Gigabyte X670E Aorus Xtreme Motherboard based on Subscribers requests.
@@BuildOrBuy That will be great, can’t wait. Thanks for the info
Hi@@farserpent1,
Absolutely! Thanks for Watching! Editing now!
AMD used to promise a 6-core processor for $100, now they promise a 6-core processor for $300 - I don't believe AMD. Intel 6 cores cheaper
Hi Иван Брагин,
Welcome! You bring up a very good point! Everything is more expensive now! We were just having this conversation with another Subscriber! Looks like We're seeing 3 Timelines running concurrently. Supply Chain, Manufacturers Products and Technology Specification changes from Design to Implementation. And each is different but none are mutually exclusive. That interaction has affected and blown out the HEDT. A cheaper CPU or a better CPU based on the Technology? The Specs are changing that fast! Based on What We know by What's being said, something more is coming and soon but no one dare speak about yet until after this current product is released, distributed and paid for! To reiterate, We have 3 timelines in play now.
@@BuildOrBuy It is logical to assume that if AMD could not use the advantages of 7nm (zen3), then 5nm (zen4) will not be able to. I think it's a matter of politics: ADM is a technology testing ground for Intel. The only thing that is not logical is why Intel was the first to introduce PCI-E 5.0
Hi@@user-km7vz2xh2m,
Good questions and Comments up for conjecture! AMD was lagging for many years. Now seems that has changed. Intel has lost focus. PCIe 5.0 is going to require Bios Updates to get everything working correctly. Bleeding Edge Technology! Appreciate Your Comments! We're eager to see what's next after this Consumer Desktop Motherboard step. We know AMD is ALL IN on DDR5 going forward!