mike's gym fighting stars preparation pro sparring session
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Feat. Rachid Bellaini, Murthel Groenhart etc
PS. The Kid is doing very ok... He Must be very good to spar with these fighters its all part of his training. Please do NOT worry with him;)) Its a Pro sparring Session real fighters only! Спорт
this is like CTE central, trading CTE's like it's the NY stock exchange
"Hey bro lets just do some light sparring"
The only thing I remember after being knocked unconscious is that the said "light sparring".
Hahahaahaha, this always cracks me up
The single reason I just spar hard with everyone. Lmao or my favorites are the ones that try to blast you right before or right at the buzzer.
Haha 😂
Just received a rib injury from flow sparring 🙄 apparently we throw knees to the rib cage during flow sparring lol
just looks like a bunch of pro fighters using amateurs as punching bags
Really?
@@edgar22452 Yes, dumb way to fight.
@Spinning Back-Kick Hey man lemme tell ya, I've been training in Muay Thai/Dutch kickboxing for quite a while and have been overseas to train a couple times, and I have to agree, this style of sparring is fucking terrible unless you're looking for very temporary glory and very permanent CTE brain injuries.
@@bigb6976 Im training in a dutch kickbox gym, and I agree with you, fighters in thailand often fight up to 200+ times, thats because they train and spar lightly and save up the potential damage for the fight. Here its common to have around 50 pro fights because the sparring is always close to 100% , the injuries pile up fast in a pro carreer.
@@bigb6976 Yeah, it's the retarded diehard macho "go hard or go home" mentality.
2:22 That guy in the blue vest is going way too hard not to mention the age, size and most probably weight differences. I was shocked to see no instructor telling him to calm it down abit.
i m totally agree with you !
i know that guy he is a piece of shit for doing that to a small boy like that but he is always like that, if it makes ya feel better my little brother beat the shit out of him there
haha i also got chocked when i saw that.
Isn't that murthel groenhart? lol why the hell would he beat that poor kid up god damn
Thats how we train in the Netherlands.. im 16 and all my sparring partners are like between 25 and 30. you learn really fast like this.
When your gym owner has Charlie Z posters on his bedroom wall 😅
hahahaha
Murthel watched "300" before class. This is SpartAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Where is the safety gear fellas? Get that safety gear on! Never hit your training mates with fury without that head protection and body protection! A terrible bad habit. Trust this old man when I tell you that.
Shut up old man.... Lol jk but seriously..... Shut up
@@shiftonthetrack4572 why is that? I have been hit with headgear on and felt more dizzy. Always wondered
Do you know the story about mikes gym, before every "spparing" you should know that you could be killed. Mike does not love to see his own fighteres from his gym going easy becouse someone will tell ooh he is not good i can beat him, he wants his fighteres to knock out others if can. That are rules of gym, if you dont want that, there are others gym, and yes Mike warns all fighters, he says to everyone to go to begginer group to see how it is
the renowned, notorious sparring session of Mike's. Wish I can join someday..
Looked like paul daley was sparring.
This is hard sparring, very old school but it definitely sorts out the week from the strong. But it seems to be alot of different skill level on the fighters and there is nothing cool about kicking a beginners ass. I would like to see if they are as confident sparring Kyshenko or Melvin hehe.. Pros usually dont train this hard without headgear, very stupid its only training. In thailand this is very disrespectful and if u do that to a fighter like Buakaw or Pajonsuk they will kick u into pieces.
Now it's 10 years later and they all have cte.
train hard fight hard!! these are the guys that eat what u throw at them and keep moving forward and destroy you !!
this guys are not respecting the right range allways at mediuem to close rang where they are just throwing hard shots without changing any angles this is fun to watch but this is how you get a short career
***** they handel the law of the ring... kill or be killed :o
YHEA but if you dont get paid to fight in the gym
***** Thats because a lot kyokushin principles are within Dutch Kickboxing theyre not doing pure Muay Thai my friend.
didnt know that
I think this is probably about 70% sparring and at times maybe a bit more intense.. But I recognise the tall guy with dreads .. I think it's murthel groenhart and he's no joke so they are obviously a advanced class
They should be wearing head gear especially with knees to the face. Opening cuts is very bad sparring and can keep fighters from getting medically cleared to fight. These people are very dumb.
I can tell you're stupid.
LOL! You think they don't know what they're doing? They are holding back on their knee strikes lol
I don't think they know what they are doing. They kick and live their leg fall. They don't have thrusting power. They don't fight intelligent. Intelligent fighting is the key. They strike there here, there is no sign of intelligent fighting. Someone with precision, power, timing and some sense of how the body works.. will win over them no matter ho strong are they.. they don't fight intelligent.
They are not pros. They are probably, as what we can see, new, most of them. This is the advertisement of the gym they are doing, to show off. they aren't pro, and no, most of them don't know what they are doing. Sure, they are holding their knee strikes, UUPPS! Sorry, my mistake! I forgot to hold my knee striek 1cm before your head, but i thrusted your head by 5cm! Sorry! I'm not a pro, don't blame me.. I'm a pro after 10 years! Ups sorry that I killed you with my knee strikes, we do it because we believe safety doesn't exist, and it's better to condition your head and penis to take strikes that can kill you, UUPPSSS!
But why do they still produce the best kickboxers.. This is standard at a pro gym in the Netherlands. No country has produced as many k1 champions as the netherlands
Gokan Saki Melvin Manhoef Badr Hari Alistair Overeem, All got wins under Mikes gym
this is stupid sparring, you can see some of the guys throwing 100% power kicks, and without good control. Learn how to throw it fast and controlled instead and you wont get injured.
TheZnuggins this is how we train in The Netherlands man
@@joaquinck5661 Well, then everyone in the Netherlands is training wrong.
@@joaquinck5661 not like this in every gymn. Yes, in general sparring is quite hard, but you adapt to your opponent and have respect for each other. You don't learn that much if you are forced in defensive all the time or you cannot train due to an injury. But indeed, I never saw a gym using headgear.
The guy with the light blue basket ball jersey was a fricken Spartan man.. he has crazy reach I like how he hunts the opponent pushes forward and know how to use his reach, speed and power
Lol that's Murtel Groenhart, he was always been one of the best in his time
+Joel Stone "These guys are fucking idiots, sparring as if they're trying to fucking kill eachother. Fucking up their technique just to hit their opponent hard, disgraceful!"
you obviously aren't a fighter.
All foreigners going crazy over some hard sparring. This happens every day in Dutch gyms. We spar hard no playing around over here. Seems to have produced allot of good fighters.
Well this is a test if u can be a fighter or not
Mike's Concussion Academy
Hard sparring is good. Daley showed respect to Murthel and could've easily got into a slugging match. The sparring was top class to watch but I honestly thought Murthel took it a little too far with people he massively outclassed. Suppose that's what they get from joining a pro session, a wake up call :)
exactly ! mostly persons doesnt understand that, it's same in me gym as in the video. if you feel too hard pressure you just say to your partner to be calm and he must respect you
For everyone calling this stupid. There's a reason all the top class dutch fighters are superior to the rest. We dominate this sport and we always will. No pain no gain. It's not about lasting, it's about becoming the best and reach the top.
Lol, because the dutch are doing so well today. Only name I recognize there was Daley and the dude and just got his ass handed by old man Fitch. Turns out having wars in the gym only makes you weaker on fight day...who would've thought?
Lmfao have fun being a vegetable.
If your definition of getting to the top is getting your brain rattled on regular basis... just good luck mate.
@@MRJTD99 lol right so therefore you can discredit all the former dutch champions... must have been a fluke all those times. nice rebuttal lol. it's kickboxing, quit being a fucking pussy, you're learning violence ffs. use your head kid smdh
That's ridiculous, the young lad at the end sparring the big black guy with dreads twice his size and with way more experience!! Head trauma!! Jesus this is ridiculous! He doesn't have to go that hard on him!
+Kevin Morley ikr i want to spare him so bad
@@JanCarlosM7 u woudnt do shitt
world class gyms operate the same as any military. the real question is, does your gym compete on a true professional level?
Ive heard from a friend who trains over there that they try weed out the weak, the quote he said was No Mercy no retreat, so if you showed mercy you were paired with others.
Over there kickboxing is a serious thing I guess.
"i have more championship belts than your bread at breakfast table" - Mike Passenier
Daaaaaaaaamn their train is so so so serious
great sparring! just need so head gear though...and that kid is getting so much experience fighting with bigger guys.
Get CTE early just brilliant. Makes sense. Folks full sparring is fine but head shots I repeat will have effects eventually. Everyone in this gym will pay for it trust me. I fight also.
All these people whining about the hard sparring god damn.
This is a dutch Kickboxing Gym, over here you are trained to be able to win a fight, learn how to take punches and how to give them. if fighting is not for you dont do it or do some karate or some other fighting sport with less physical contact
The dutch are the greatest kickboxing nation in the world, starting with Jan Plas back in the days where the sparring was just as hard as you see over here. If not even harder. my dad trained in the 80's with Rob Kaaman and all the other future legends and those guys where tough! just look up the stats. The dutch are simply the best and most decorated kickboxing nation in the world.
and don't start the Thai Bullshit. they fight under different rules and the point system is more focussed towards kicks. at a thai fight you almost never see knockouts.
let the pro's train the pro's and shut the hell up.
That smaller guy with the black shirt on and the black guy with the blue jersey on are some bullys 😂😂😂
There's no better kickbox training than beating up an 11-year-old.
Is this in t
Netherlands🇳🇱
This is pro sparring and i respect that. But is this gym also suitable for hobby practitioner? I am interested in light sparring, i don't want to get dropped. Are in Mike's gym also course suitable for me?
please answer what type shinguards are they using what company ? thanks
in order to survive in k1 you need to go through this kind of sparring, it test your heart, if you cant handle the sparring no way in hell you can fight
Nice video. We dont spar like that in Thailand.. But this kind of sparring are very useful anyway.
This is the dutch spirit!
This is beautiful
And this was light sparring day
I love this! Spar hard!🤟🏽
Yes! Free CTE and fucked up lifes in the future for everybody! isn´t that great?
@@lutherblissett7873 you could say that about EVERY combat sport bud, even if you did play it safe you're still getting minor brain damage each time. every single competitor from any combat sport has had or has brain damage to at least a small degree. have you ever tried to have a conversation with someone who competes regularly? (they're a little slow...)
@@lutherblissett7873 Big baby, because we spar like this the Netherlands are creating the best fighters in the world.
@@d-24 the thais have proven that you don't need to get brain damage like this to become a good fighter.
Yooh ! 😸 Those guys r really duking it out
sehr gut
Woensdag gehakt dag, dit is hoe we in Nederland trainen.
+royalclub148 Niet te lief gewoon knallen
Robert Mcnamara Uiteraard niet bij beginnelingen! Daar leren die personen nix van.
"lack of courage" certainly doesnt apply to anyone in that building
These guys are fighting like its a continous muay thai tournament lol
The guy with long hair has no mercy!
Murthel Groenhart
I love this!!!
Indeed, Training is about learning not about injuries and how to beat the shit at smaller guys.
00:30 name of the fighter with the red gloves?
He looks like he fights like Ernesto hoost
Man I wish I trained here
That black guy with the pony tail is groenhart?He has cut his hair now and i didnt recognise him in the video
He is Murthel Groenhart, the current K-1 World Max champion.
What song is this???
Its an unreleased remix exclusive for this video ft samples & sounds made by mpc/groovebox
yeah but on the bright side you notice mike walks over to him after he goes down, so I guess it's just this one fighters attitude rather then the gym is like that.
Living in the US i can tell you this... the entire fucking country would benefit from a little bit of tough love such as this. Case in point... "omg mcdonalds tastes too good! i cant stop eating it!" do you think that kid is ever gonna be that weak when he is older? hell no! its not like his teammates dont respect him, they do. they are getting him ready and making him strong. its a fucking far cry from the "you lost, but everyone is a winner" mentality, where you get a medal just for trying...
Beautiful Tecniques.
If Mjw see that , he will do never speak more about sparring .
if you want to eat with the big dogs, you've gotta run with the big dogs.....
From the root to the cte!!!
At 3.19 thre's sektor vs cyrax lol
Is the kid still training?
because if you train like that it will make the fight easier
good spar. looked like some of the pros are putting a beating on some of the amateurs. but hey thats how you learn. no pain no gain.
I believe those are 16oz Gloves they're wearing [more padding than the traditional gloves they fight in]plus they're wearing two sets of shin guards. The cloth ones you see in Karate,TKD,etc and the Traditional Muay Thai. Its a case of it looking more brutal than it actually is.
- said the future vegetable
what a gym...
Ah, so cobra kai is their heros in the karate kid?
Your post was ahead of its time, my friend.
Lol
what should i do to train in there?
Funny how they spar hard to get tough but the Thai always tougher when it time to fight.. why?? Coz they save it for the ring.
Same gym Bard Hari trains at, so yeah what do you expect?
Look at his fight vs Remy Bonjasky in 2008 in case you don't know what I am talking about.
Similar thing happened vs Hesdy Gerges in 2010.
Most talked about,....
yea this is def a dutch kickboxing style gym lmfao. and a lot of good pros in this vid like paul daley, murthel groenhart etc.
zogenaamd hard om te showen
Ik mis het wel erg voluit sparren, jammer dat ik nu in Frisland woon en niet meer bij Paul pengel meer kan trainen. Als ik dit zie wow dan kriebelt het enorm om wee te gaan vechten
oh god! there's a huge difference between this and my training back home! I haven't seen an sparring like this... looks more like they are actually fighting!
It'snot for me.. but I do like it ;)
where this gym located?
***** yes i know! i dont know where r u coming frombut i guess we are so far to be on that level..there r pro!
would love to take a class there
mike's gym oostzan noord it's in amsterdam northern suburb
@@Silvanafitness this not sparring 100 procent not this goes to far
The Kid knew what he signed up for. Sure it looks odd but He can handle him self. He only becomes stronger threw this. Plus he is in an professionel envorinment so dont worry about it.
The shit they do in thailand with kids competing is far worse!
very good.
Is this how people in Netherlands spar? Its pretty different if u look Thai gyms and their sparring. In Thailand it looks more like playing games and having fun.
thailand? you serious bud? they run their kid fighters ragged. no protection, constant fights. it might look more 'good-natured' on the surface, but they're destroying their bodies in the same way. yet no one really wants to judge the thai kickboxing culture... it's all controlled violence anyways. what do you expect?
Where is Alistair Overeem?
they have a separate chamber for him.
Still people worry about the kid his name is mike and he'll beat the hell out of you if you dont keep your hands up;)
People this is a PRO!!!! sparring session. Only pro´s and big talents allowed.
Is niet voluit, mooi spatwerk
I know he might be and is and its probably because the kid went too hard out on Murthel and Murthel sort of gave it back, that happens to me alot when the pace of the sparring is too slow. But you can tell everyone is judging Murthel. It wouldve been good if you showed that the kid was going hardout then Murthel did his thing. And that kid looks like a good fighter aswell. I know how the kid feels.
this is hell ;p full hardcore ;p respect from Pro Fighters Lublin Poland ;p
that was intense. Real gym right there
Well I read the comments and I my self is a man of fair sportsmanshit i think he should have helpd him watching how it went at first and that as a older fighter you should treat younger ones better. But I also saw befor he want to take him down i also saw that the younger one conerd the black guy and put him under presure i hope all of you guys commenting against him also saw that. And do any of us know if he went after the session to talk to him about that?
2:42 UUMMMM Kid, you breathing?!???
i can never understand while they will the trainer serious while he is fat as fuck. sure he can have the knowledge, but someone who cares so little about his own health and fitness is not to be taken seriously in my book. as a trainer you should also be the example.
Wout van Leuveren You defo dont know Mike look up Who he trains
You definitely wanna look the part lol. But don't judge a book by it's a cover.
dont know if thats a good idea, to the legs is fine but to the body i think no hard knees because i have seen two people break there ribs like that in sparring and these guys can probably hit alot harder than the guys i train with. with shin guards i would say kick hard anywhere but knees elbows and sweeps are when i have had/seen the worst injuries and heels aswell :)
I used to think Mike was a great trainer, but the technique through this whole video was absolutely horrible!! Whoever says I'm a dick for pointing out this fact is an ignorant fool! Melvin and Badr are explosive and have shown very good technique and phenomenal power, but Manhoef is too wild and gets koed a lot while Badr can get KO hungry and get sloppy at times. Some fighters with nice technique are Giorgio Petrosyan, Buakaw, Masato, Tyrone Spong, Ross Pearson, Thiago Alves & Anderson Silva.
This is not a gym.This is paradise.
Great sparring session ! Just to come back on some of the comments below on the fighters going too hard on each others. This session takes place in The Netherlands, which has real kickboxing/Muay Thai culture, very small country, but still on the all time Top 3. Sparring sessions there are characterized by fighters going "full on" during sparring sessions everyone there knows it...before stepping in the gym. This way of training is one of the many reasons why dutch fighters keep on being at the top of kickboxing/Muay Thai for the last 30 years. So no injustice, just willing fighters ready give it all in the gym ;-) Osu !
Can normal average Joe go and train there? Or is it rough sparring only??
when they spar they go like 80% everytime. doesn't matter who you are or who your training partner is. you have to understand that it's just their kickboxing culture. just like the young thai kids who don't wear protective gear and have matches almost every week.
bottom line -- you're not going to be afraid of ANYONE toe to toe after a while if you trained dutch lol
me too ,first time i watched i was like -this is stupid shit,only learn to cover up doing this .But now i think if you know your going hard -give it back hard
May I know what is the big deal with video and all the hate for Murthel?? Obviously you guys has never been involved in a pro sparring session?? Have you ever heard of "Gym Wars"?? Well that's it... If the kid should be treated fairly, WTF is he doing in there in the 1st place??If he went hard you get it back hard that's the name of the game, those complaining don't play it...
I didn't say 'they ONLY dominate because they got the the jump on everyone else'. I gave another reason too i.e no other big sports as competition. Maybe the latter is the more important factor. Frankly I find your claim that knocking seven shades of shit out of someone makes them a better fighter pretty ridiculous. You're right, they still dominate. How long that situation will persist given the relatively recent spike in MMA, and subsequently Muay Thai, interest worldwide is anyones guess.
This is the way to train , Where is this gym ?????
why u wanna get knocked the f out there 🤣
in regards to the kid -- i know this is the dutch kickboxing culture and i'm not knocking it but... RIP school. he's not going to have alot of brains left for it
Yeah... or maybe he'll think "fuck this" and never come back to that gym again. That kid isn't learning anything by being beaten up on... and the conditioning training can come later when he's got the technique and tactics down. I've seen an instructor beat the shit out of a guy for doing that.. literally chased him out of the door.
Song please?
sounds like a tekken song
Wtf FFF 2:20 why TF they got a grown ass man sparring a kid?