George vs Hollywood - The full history of George lucas fight against Hollywood then n now (who won?)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @redboy5341
    @redboy5341  6 лет назад +31

    Time stamps-
    The present day situation with Hollywood - 0:00
    Red tails - 2:12
    From owned to ownership - 5:00
    American grafitti - 11:08
    Speed bumps/"american Zoe trope productions" - 14:08
    Building a better system/Skywalker ranch - 17:12
    George vs "award shows" - 19:40
    (Best)George sells/was it a mistake? - 23:19
    (Best) was George betrayed by kathleen kennedy? - 36:55
    Regret or Resolve?/ why George sold infp- 40:22
    Final score/who actually won? - 51:56?

    • @ANT96-x8d
      @ANT96-x8d 5 лет назад +2

      Sequel idea:
      The fans vs George Lucas;
      The fight for the original unaltered edition of the trilogy.

    • @redboy5341
      @redboy5341  5 лет назад

      Good idea but didnt they do that already?

    • @ANT96-x8d
      @ANT96-x8d 5 лет назад

      Don’t know

    • @logansstory63
      @logansstory63 3 года назад

      Just a thing about the black Panther success at the time of that interview black Panther let alone the marvel cinematic universe wasn’t expanded so at that time yes they were still saying things like we don’t know how to market a movie with a main black cast. So at the time of that interview black Panther wasn’t even out or talked about. But that tells you that it is possible and can be done. In fact it can be done more and more.

    • @apollomars1678
      @apollomars1678 3 года назад

      real reason hollywood wont like to make a big black movie?
      Red Tails was barely released theatrically outside the US. it made in the box offices 50 million......49.500.000 in the US and just 500.000 in the UK
      Black panther got white views and foreign views by the sequal-grab $646.8 million internationally, equal to the domestic profit.
      and a lot of the bad performance can only be prevented by voicing problems with black movies, who seem to be racist......like the simple reality, that i wouldnt watch a whole movie by afroamerican with thick dialects as an european with or without english background and no social contact to afroamericans with this dialect in my whole live. its like listening to K-pop for the first time........and that for 120 min,.......just to understand the story. try to create empathy with the story on this level of communication problems.

  • @thoughtsonfitness3249
    @thoughtsonfitness3249 3 года назад +102

    George was so right ..... there is no episode 7

    • @b_radbrad8899
      @b_radbrad8899 Год назад +1

      His idea for the sequel trilogy was kick ass. I mean the fact it’s inspired by the events of the war on terror seems the best and most interesting direction to go

  • @TheFrogspawnedOne
    @TheFrogspawnedOne 6 лет назад +122

    I'm glad to hear that George is happy, but it seems like such a heartbreaking story.
    He wanted to find somebody would would cherish and care for his universe, and instead he got... the white slavers.

  • @AnonYMouse-ky4sg
    @AnonYMouse-ky4sg 5 лет назад +63

    48:50 “There’s 3 more stories and to do it right it’d take 10 more years.”
    4 years and 5 movies later....

  • @iimdirtydan
    @iimdirtydan 3 года назад +39

    Every time Kathleen talks... “it’s so important that we appreciate.....”

    • @makutas-v261
      @makutas-v261 Год назад +4

      Equivalent to "can we just appreciate..." comments

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole Год назад

      She definitely has some compromising information to have kept that job for so long.
      Let's not forget she worked closely with Harvey Weinstien for many , many years

  • @tertiary7
    @tertiary7 5 лет назад +69

    Now it makes sense. Lucas was an indie film maker with a vision. Disney is very clearly a sausage factory that _grows strong brands and expands creative content to further their growth strategy and create opportunity for the company to drive long term shareholder value._

    • @juanita-dark
      @juanita-dark 4 года назад +14

      Tertiary Adjunct Iger-era Disney doesn't grow brands. It waits for someone else to do the growing and then acquires them. That statement by Iger was not strictly true anymore. The last time Disney made something and grew it seems to be when Walt was alive.

    • @Deltasquad382943
      @Deltasquad382943 3 года назад

      That’s what George Lucas did too lol do you not think that episodes 1-3 weren’t made to sell toys and merch?

    • @vgrepairs
      @vgrepairs 3 года назад +4

      @@Deltasquad382943 do you think Disney would make a movie with even HALF the shocking violence in Lucas' prequels? Even the avengers movies barely show a drop of blood -____- count the number of deaths and limbs cut off in star wars 1-3. You KNOW the Hollywood execs were warning Lucas how much money he would lose rating episode 3 Pg-13

    • @Deltasquad382943
      @Deltasquad382943 3 года назад

      @@vgrepairs Violence ≠ good storytelling, and the prequels are notorious for their shit storytelling. The violence even gets in the way of everything as well actually. For example, the Jedi aren’t afraid to kill and decapitate their foes, but when Anakin does it it’s portrayed as taboo, which makes no sense and has no impact. There wasn’t any blood in the prequels either btw, PG-13 restricts the amount of blood you’re allowed to show.

    • @vgrepairs
      @vgrepairs 3 года назад +4

      @@Deltasquad382943 Creativity and risk is better than a copy pasted hollywood action script, which most people excuse while watching today's shitty superhero movies.

  • @andrewfortmusic
    @andrewfortmusic 3 года назад +19

    It's so grounding to hear that Lucas wants the first line if his obituary to state that he was a good father. Culture would often say otherwise, but children are blessings and he can see that clearly. I love that he makes that his priority.

  • @coffeecomics3583
    @coffeecomics3583 5 лет назад +50

    George is a hero. He is Luke S. "LUCAS"

    • @tertiary7
      @tertiary7 5 лет назад +2

      🤯🤯🤯

    • @Jared_Wignall
      @Jared_Wignall 4 года назад +5

      Harrison Ford said as much at the end of the documentary Empire of Dreams. George Lucas also said when he was interviewed by Carrie Fisher in 2002 that Luke Skywalker is the character he identifies with the most in Star Wars.

    • @WaterMeLoan64
      @WaterMeLoan64 3 года назад +1

      BRUH...

  • @logicerrormusic
    @logicerrormusic 3 года назад +21

    Let's just say the whole story can be a parable of my last relationship, lasted a lot, felt like the best thing in the world, you got betrayed and things felt apart really fast, you had to quit it with a lot of hesitation and finally you moved on, first worrying if she'll ever do fine, then realising you just don't even care anymore.

  • @AnonYMouse-ky4sg
    @AnonYMouse-ky4sg 5 лет назад +23

    Film’s New Hope
    Hollywood Strikes Back
    The Return of Lucas

  • @TheStumyu
    @TheStumyu 5 лет назад +27

    36:16 Hamill is absolute class.

    • @DaR3b3L
      @DaR3b3L 3 года назад +2

      Legend

  • @Cybersnake-he4zr
    @Cybersnake-he4zr 3 года назад +13

    Episode 1 - 6 felt like Star Wars movies
    7-9 doesn’t feel like Star Wars that’s the difference

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 3 года назад +2

      7 tried its best but star wars is about NEW stuff not doing the same old things. 8 at least TRIED to do new things but in the worst way possible.

    • @Cybersnake-he4zr
      @Cybersnake-he4zr 3 года назад +1

      @@turtleanton6539 agree 8 went to far

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole Год назад

      Episode 7 looked like star wars, but it didn't feel like star wars.

  • @nestortomaselli6372
    @nestortomaselli6372 4 года назад +11

    I love how No Bullshit George is on every appearance.

    • @thekidfromiowa
      @thekidfromiowa 3 года назад +5

      Really it's a shame how the salty fanboys treated him after Episode I.

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 4 года назад +13

    George has vision and wants to make films to satisfy his visions for the films he’s going to make. Hollywood just wants to put out stuff that will make money, regardless if the films make sense or are any good. The Disney Star Wars films are corporate fiction and didn’t have an actual vision for their trilogy once they tossed out George Lucas’s treatments.

  • @AnonYMouse-ky4sg
    @AnonYMouse-ky4sg 5 лет назад +12

    40:17 That side-eye says it all! He knew exactly what he was saying. The look Kathleen gave tells me she knew as well!

    • @akaicedtea6236
      @akaicedtea6236 2 года назад

      And the interviewer says "playing out today".

  • @DaleonM4
    @DaleonM4 5 лет назад +11

    I think he made his point hollywood is bad and what better to do it that compare the old star wars movies with the ones disney has made.

  • @thekidfromiowa
    @thekidfromiowa 3 года назад +20

    Don't know how to market Red Tails? It's got George frickin' Lucas' name on it! It's created by the guy who created Star Wars. That's not enough!?

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole Год назад +1

      I don't know how Red Tails flew under my radar for so long.
      Just watched the trailer and it looks damn good.

  • @Bluecloudprod
    @Bluecloudprod 3 года назад +9

    I agree George...
    Waves hand.
    "There is NO Episode 7...
    You are free to go about your business."

  • @mkram2154
    @mkram2154 5 лет назад +12

    For your information, Chinese theaters and viewers isolated The Last Jedi because there was a Vietnam actress in it. The Chinese propaganda started f...ing the release a month before and they succeeded. Not because they know about quality movie. Put a Chinese in there and it will succeed. However, the American audience does know a quality movie. History tells us that movie only survives if it does well in US regardless of what happen all around the world.

    • @delp4287
      @delp4287 5 лет назад +3

      Thats true... Also I dislike putting just a lesbian/gay in a movie cause they can... It is stupid

  • @j-555
    @j-555 Год назад +4

    One thing I just realized that he doesn't get credit for and has even been the subject of ridicule is his claim that red tails was the first all black movie. I always thought he was exaggerating but after looking into it, he wasn't kidding or referring to the actors only. the director and writers were all black too. I think he was telling the truth after all

    • @redboy5341
      @redboy5341  Год назад +2

      Wow didn't know about the writers etc

    • @j-555
      @j-555 Год назад

      @@redboy5341 right?!

  • @Wilantonjakov
    @Wilantonjakov 5 лет назад +12

    Hah. Now it's George R. R. Martin vs Hollywood.

    • @Rinesmyth
      @Rinesmyth 4 года назад +3

      And then it'll be the Tolkien Estate vs Hollywood/streaming, just you wait

  • @guillermoratou
    @guillermoratou Год назад +1

    This is AMAZING, I don't know how this isn't more popular

  • @Ruleof2Review
    @Ruleof2Review 6 лет назад +25

    An incredible video. I’m only one third in so far but this is gold. Thank you for this. #ThankYouGeorge

    • @redboy5341
      @redboy5341  6 лет назад +2

      Thanks worked hard on it.

  • @AnonYMouse-ky4sg
    @AnonYMouse-ky4sg 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you so much for putting this together, especially the fan reactions to TLJ. I can tell the hard work and love you put into creating it!

  • @antipro8
    @antipro8 2 года назад +6

    His hairline alone is beating Hollywood into submission

    • @redboy5341
      @redboy5341  Год назад

      lol what??

    • @crosscounter
      @crosscounter 8 месяцев назад

      ikr, insane to have a beard and hairline like that

  • @punmaster4043
    @punmaster4043 3 года назад +2

    Yo this was a amazing video bro, helped me with my problems and shit. Like I actually learned tons at the end. I’d love to see more dude! Keep working hard. I shed a lil tear

  • @dcbdiscerns7617
    @dcbdiscerns7617 Год назад +1

    36:20 😱 Omg, first time seeing this clanger. (Watching in 2023) Ouch, lol 😂❤

  • @misterjohn2
    @misterjohn2 Год назад +1

    Have you ever heard the tragedy of Lucas the artist?
    It’s not a story Disney would tell you.

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat Год назад +1

    But where's the "small arthouse personal films" that George was going to make? I can't see them getting made - as well as the fact that he has a young child these days.

  • @BoleDaPole
    @BoleDaPole Год назад +1

    What an awesome mash up of all time great quotes by George Lucas.

  • @alramone1
    @alramone1 3 года назад +4

    GS takes a lot of shit from Star Wars fans but they have no idea how creative he is and how much integrity he has

  • @mojoschmee9320
    @mojoschmee9320 3 года назад +5

    Can someone with adequate talent please just make an animated feature of Luke Skywalker dismembering Darth Kennedy, both physically and symbolically? My therapist says it would do wonders for me...

  • @Bluecloudprod
    @Bluecloudprod 3 года назад +5

    American Graffiti is a GREAT film.

    • @Cybersnake-he4zr
      @Cybersnake-he4zr 3 года назад +3

      Thx 1138 as well I know it’s not a movie for everyone but I like it

  • @DaR3b3L
    @DaR3b3L 3 года назад +3

    I see why they botched the Luke character. It was done as a paypack for George talking smack to disney. These people are cunning and deceptive, traits of devils.

  • @twilightfilms9436
    @twilightfilms9436 3 года назад +2

    Absolutely Awesome!!! Good Job!!!

  • @AlexBurns1
    @AlexBurns1 5 месяцев назад +1

    This was awesome. Thank you Redboy. Thank you George Lucas.

    • @redboy5341
      @redboy5341  5 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed it! Lot of new stuff coming soon

  • @AnonYMouse-ky4sg
    @AnonYMouse-ky4sg 5 лет назад +10

    I think a lot of Star Wars fans are confused by George. They love what he created, but I think he makes it abundantly clear that he wants to make the films he wants to make. He doesn’t give a shit what the fans think. In that way, he’s more like Rian Johnson than people will ever admit. The only difference is that George knows Star Wars and what it’s about and it’s what fans have come to love. George can make bad Star Wars movies, but all of the fans will see it and respect it because at least it IS Star Wars. Rian didn’t care about Star Wars, he wanted to do his own thing. He needs to be doing his own projects, not someone else’s. In the same way, I would imagine George would completely F up a series like Game of Thrones if he were given the reigns, because again, he wants to do his own thing.

    • @Сайтамен
      @Сайтамен 3 года назад +3

      And George actually listens to the fans (he removed Jar Jar after ep1), and doesn't insult them on Twitter. He even made Clone Wars series for fans and they love it.

    • @IvanZaguzin-b2b
      @IvanZaguzin-b2b Год назад

      U have some point

  • @ElCaballoTV
    @ElCaballoTV 5 лет назад +4

    Fantastic, thank you

  • @Dragonage2ftw
    @Dragonage2ftw 6 лет назад +9

    Fans won.

  • @rustybuckets07
    @rustybuckets07 5 лет назад +8

    @36:16 Brutal.

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 3 года назад +1

    Want to correct you Redboy with your time stamps: 19:40 is when the George vs “Award Shows” part is.

  • @clutchceez1470
    @clutchceez1470 3 года назад +8

    George cant be thanked enough for all he has done for HUMANITY!!! Love this man, awesome vids brother keep it up!

  • @theoriginalzach4340
    @theoriginalzach4340 5 лет назад +9

    George...you made the same mistake Plagueis did...ironic...

  • @NickAndTech
    @NickAndTech 2 года назад +4

    He doesn't seem happy. I think he failed to realize the responsibility he had to the cultural good he had created before it was too late. In a time when heroes, role models and the distinction between good and evil are more important than ever, Disney subverted and destroyed what could have been a powerful and hopeful continuation of a great story. Though flawed, the prequels are still in the spirit of the original trilogy, Rogue One also fit this mold. The latest trilogy should come with the disclaimer "vaguely influenced by the Star Wars universe."

    • @vexaris1890
      @vexaris1890 2 года назад

      Imagine a world in which Lucas never sold LucasFilms &c. and instead built something similar to the Tolkien Estate.

    • @bangerxshane
      @bangerxshane 2 года назад

      He’s old, he wants to ‘live’ his life. I respect that.

  • @jimothyhendrix
    @jimothyhendrix Месяц назад

    3:43 hahhahahahah good one 🤣

  • @bananen1234
    @bananen1234 4 года назад +2

    Lol! That white smiley eyeing everybody

  • @thekidfromiowa
    @thekidfromiowa 3 года назад +2

    His net worth is $6.9 billion! George didn't get there by being a pushover.

  • @vasmirza3487
    @vasmirza3487 5 лет назад +5

    36:23 LMAO!!!!

  • @AnonYMouse-ky4sg
    @AnonYMouse-ky4sg 5 лет назад +1

    Oh my god, they need to make a movie about the things he has to go through in the industry. It would be epic!

    • @juanita-dark
      @juanita-dark 4 года назад

      Anon YMouse They would never. It would end up being a critique of the movie industry as is - particularly today - and Hollywood would never.

    • @Jared_Wignall
      @Jared_Wignall 4 года назад +1

      juanita dark it could be made as an indie film, but it would likely have a hard time being distributed.

  •  5 лет назад +4

    red tails did lose money.. it actually flopped at the box office.. and that means the studios were right.. it didnt make any money... on wiki it says it was a budget of 58 million and it made 50.4 million.. sounds like a flop to me

    • @thekidfromiowa
      @thekidfromiowa 3 года назад +2

      George was just happy to get it made. The loss it took is pocket change to George.

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 3 года назад

      There is still dvd blurays streams etc on top of that. But I guess there is not many red tails toys

  • @akaicedtea6236
    @akaicedtea6236 2 года назад +2

    Next time I feel like america is too racially divided I'm gonna rewatch the segment of everyone's reaction to the last jedi.

  • @tertiary7
    @tertiary7 5 лет назад +2

    39:19 lol oh George.... side eye.

  • @TheBoxingNinja
    @TheBoxingNinja 5 лет назад +9

    47:39 "It's a space drama, about fathers and sons and grandfathers"
    What does he mean grandfathers?
    Anakin Skywalker is the only grandfather in the franchise I can think of.

    • @juanita-dark
      @juanita-dark 4 года назад +2

      *Matthew Noneya* It likely means according to George's treatment Leia *and* Luke would have had children. George asked JJ about the Skywalker grandchildren in an interview prior to TFA.
      The conflict in his treatments probably was in some way generational.

    • @Сайтамен
      @Сайтамен 3 года назад +2

      Shmi is grandmother.

  • @Meteor.v
    @Meteor.v Год назад +1

    36:16 Goodness shitf*ck Mark Hamill just destroyed that clown live on TV 😱

  • @Praxiszooms
    @Praxiszooms 5 лет назад +2

    Nice that e wins in the end

  • @kaltrex9465
    @kaltrex9465 3 года назад

    He should not have sold with the people who were there at the time. He was not pleased at that signing. He was wrong saying “we” and that they gave a ton of material to work with , because they didn’t see and say it that way.

  • @dcbdiscerns7617
    @dcbdiscerns7617 Год назад

    Turned out George had some Sith in him all along.. hope the money was was worth it, sir.

  • @SongvilayFilms
    @SongvilayFilms Год назад

    @24:49 And it became one of the worst decisions ever made in art & entertainment.

  • @kaltrex9465
    @kaltrex9465 3 года назад

    Talent without training is nothing..just realized it’s another sentiment from mandalorian Luke.

  • @exercisethemind
    @exercisethemind Месяц назад

    Did they destroy Star Wars just to make an example of George Lucas?

    • @redboy5341
      @redboy5341  Месяц назад +1

      maybe. I think it was for a few reasons though

    • @exercisethemind
      @exercisethemind Месяц назад

      @@redboy5341 It is a pretty radical story. You only have to see Andor to see its revolutionary potential. I wouldn't be surprised if it was an effort at political suppression as well.

  • @matthiaseriklutge8652
    @matthiaseriklutge8652 3 года назад +1

    damn he is nearly as quotable as yoda

  • @myautobiographyafanfic1413
    @myautobiographyafanfic1413 2 года назад

    I hate Star Wars, but this guy seems great.

  • @lukemacinnes5124
    @lukemacinnes5124 Год назад

    I mean that episode 7 comment goes deeper tbh, can anyone else create episode 7 no can they create a film and call it episode 7 sure but is it really episode 7 of course not imo

  • @atomtension5645
    @atomtension5645 3 года назад +3

    Kennedy, no personality, not particularly interesting, or visionary. Average intelligence. Sleepwalks through interviews. No emotion. Get rid of her. 2021

  • @harleyHDz
    @harleyHDz 3 года назад +1

    34:41 lets go hugs

  • @deth3021
    @deth3021 3 года назад

    4:00 looking at Wikipedia, red tails lost about 30 million.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Tails

  • @Bluecloudprod
    @Bluecloudprod 3 года назад

    "I don't understand what this thing is with big dogs flying spaceships around."

  • @marcusbrothers5221
    @marcusbrothers5221 Год назад

    Does anyone remember Michelle Obama's face at the inauguration?

  • @joaoraposo9519
    @joaoraposo9519 3 года назад +1

    What a bunch of bs from caitlyn. Wow

  • @Praxiszooms
    @Praxiszooms 5 лет назад +1

    grace :D

  • @SongvilayFilms
    @SongvilayFilms Год назад +1

    @19:40 Charli Rose needs to calm the f#ck down.

  • @dbells626
    @dbells626 3 года назад

    Red tails? I'd rather watch Duck Tales.

  • @dcbdiscerns7617
    @dcbdiscerns7617 Год назад

    To answer your question - in real life the darkside won. The tragedy of George Lucas. So sad.

  • @s.u.5285
    @s.u.5285 5 лет назад

    Tuskee Airman was better than Red Tails. Red Tails movie wasnt needed.