Rich Eisen Weighs In on the 22 Penalty Flags Thrown against Bills & Jets on Monday Night Football
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Rich Eisen weighs in on the 22 penalty flags that were thrown on Monday Night Football between the Buffalo Bills and New York Jets.
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Sarcastaball is a classic episode 😂
Almost all of the old episodes are classic
Now we have guardian hats. We're getting there
That episode feels relatively new to me, maybe that means I’m old.
Never understood why a 15 yard penalty and a 5 yard penalty offset.
All throws are parabolas
Rich clearly trying to sound smart but fucking it will never get old
thank you
no they are not............... most of Russell Wilson throws are paraincompletions
@@AsifKhan-hf9zy3rd highest TD to INT ratio and Rating in The history of The NFL but go on.
@@Nobody-su9km I think Russel Wilson and Deshaun Watson are evidence that a good QB needs a good team. There are exceptions but for the most part a bad team can make any QB look bad and a good team can make a bad QB look good.
Didn’t think I’d be getting a rich South Park reference lmao
Aaron Rodgers made it first
I'd pay anything to hear "you broke the rules, rules, rules" every time a flag is thrown
Game was close to unwatchable. And it was like the ref crew loved being the center of attention.
the spirit of donald trump had entered the NFL Referees Retirement Fund...............
............ but not the communist NFL Referees Child Care Fund, mind you
They even constantly huddled to keep the camera on them as long as possible 🤦🏻♂
Ridiculous take. Go ahead and do even a JV football game and see if that's what any crew would want. They are doing their job and it happens to be in HD tv and you can see things after the fact in slo-mo and everyone just "wants the call right". Well, you got what you wished for. Wanting the "center of attention" is that last thing these high level decision makers want.
The same thoughtless cliche people say after every penalty. Maybe 73 and 79 on the Bills and 77 on the Jets can learn how to legally play football and that's half the penalties not called anymore.
@@willowbrook2717There were a dozen games played this week yet this game is the only one anyone is talking about in regards to how poorly the game was officiated and you honestly think it was a matter of 2 outrageously undisciplined teams….I disagree completely. The Bills were one of the least (and still are) penalized teams in the league going into this game but I guess that was all luck. The game was butchered by awful officiating, it’s a fact not an opinion.
worst ones called are always for a o-line men 5feet down field on the opposite side of the play 30+yards away...
I was at the Raiders cowboys game on thansgiving a few years ago... 36 were thrown in that game if i remember correctly
The problem is, they’re throwing these flags now, but when the Super Bowl comes? NOPE. Chiefs won two super bowls with no offensive holds, when it’s all on video.
With Brady gone, Patty is the refs new Golden Boy.
Bills fan, saw the hit on Rodgers and knew right away they were gonna call it. They call that for Rodgers and allen and mahomes and... but not bo nix, their not giving that call to Zach Wilson. This is a call that needs to be taken out of the refs hand. They should be able to throw a flag in concern of an unnecessary roughness but it should be confirmed by replay officials, like targeting in college.
The nba reviews flagrant, the nhl does the same thing. But the NFL has chosen to keep their officials in the realm of infalability. They don't want to hold their referees accountable.
In international cricket a referee has the option to rule on a play as undecided. Meaning that if the (pitch) was wide of the strike zone or about to be an (out), the ref can say 'i don't know' an use replay to make the decision! Not confirm the forced call on the field but to be exactly like the viewer at home and say, 'i didn't see it from the right angle, i really can't call it, let me see some other camera angles to make a decision'
The NFL (and the MLB but even they are being better) would rather have an official make a quick and game altering call based on whether they think that a player could have done a little more to avoid falling on top of another player whilst trying to bring that player to the ground. The NFL believes no assistance is necessary to make that call. They believe their referees are infalable and should not be held accountable.
You have freedoms and authority at your place of employment that new workers do not have, Allen and Mahomes getting calls Bo Nix and Zach Wilson do not get is no different. Some people are VIE or very important employees and others are not….thats life.
What a whiner. Give it up, it is getting old.
@axe2grind244 well my place of employment doesn't have games with rules. My job is not a game with rules. So as true a your analogy is, it's not congruent.
@darrellmessbarger3827 that's a fair and intelligent argument. I bow to you esquire
You’ll never convince me that wasn’t a fumble by Rodgers. In no way was that a throw attempt.
Seriously. Game ended there
Stupid tuck rule all over again
Why are leagues so afraid of using common sense
@@ajfatcathe NFL got rid of the tuck rule a few years ago… The refs changed the rules on the spot.
My question was and still is, how was that not an intentional grounding if it was a throw attempt?
I would ABSOLUTELY love to see a full reaction to the whole episode of sarcastaball from rich. It's too damn funny
The officiating this year has been genuinely dreadful. Across the board too. We need a cleanup of the officiating top down
Officiating has been a lot better this year in general. Not great, but a lot better than the last few years.
How so? Like literally how are they any worse than years prior?
Clean up? Lol you funny BRO, Then REFs better throw flags on pretty much on every plays if they follow the “NFL RULE BOOK”. Either you a gambler or you rooting for your team to get all the call your way.
Billionaire owners apparently don’t have enough money to pay them to be full time employees. Might cost them a 15 th home or super yacht or have to downsize their private fleet
No one wants to watch a football game with more than 10-15 penalties, max. 22 is ridiculous and is sloppy indeed
Had every intention of watching the replay on NFL+ tonight. After hearing there were 22+ flags think I’ll pass. So much for growing the game there Roger. 😂
Those DPI calls were pretty insane last night, too
The officiating was so bad you could make a dissertation that the game was rigged for the Bills and rigged for the Jets.
The officiating all around was just...drunk. I stopped watching at the half, it was so awful.
As a Bills fan that Mack hollins one was unreal
That game gave me a headache! So sick of these "scrub refs" interrupting the game every minute!
Rules ....rules.......rules....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The freaking refs nowadays literally watch multiple replays after said play and then decide to throw the flag, or they wait for a complaint from a WR and decide to throw the PI flag, the game is an absolute joke, even when they weren't throwing a flag the officials had to shut down plays to get the clock correct or some other nonsense, and that hold call to negate Jets Allen rushing TD was a joke and would not happen to any other team in their home stadium for gods sake.
Season is too long and now the first 3-5 games are preseason.
That South Park episode was on the other day. They used a balloon instead of a football 😂
What they gotta do something about is calling every twitch, fart and eyeblink a motion penalty.
One the ref had his back to the camera announcing a penalty. Total tool move lol 😂
It's a human Russell Wilson is an underrated joke
The officials aren’t the problem. Football has too many rules. The game is becoming unwatchable.
Seriously. Even something as simple as a catch has become so unbearably arbitrary.
Not that this is an excuse but this was two teams that don't like each other and specifically some guys on the Bills offense have mutual beef with the Jets Defense, so after it started to get chippy early in the second quarter something like this was gonna happen. My father told me at half time the game was either gonna get sloppy or there was gonna be a fight.
I really think that the refs were trying to keep control of the game because they knew the teams did not like each other. Bills fans know it. These are nasty dirty games. Every year. I mean the lights go out and a fight breaks out.
BTW... back in the day there were more fights in the stands at a Jets game in Buffalo than any other game. Quite a few drunken college students from NYC attending school in Buffalo would go.
@@jamessnee7171 I am a Bills fan I am aware. I think you are right they tried to keep control, I just think they failed (well the benches didn't clear). Specifically the point where they stopped the game even when there weren't penalties a bunch of times in a row, one was clock, one was confusion about whether the Bills where in no huddle or not and should the jets be allowed to sub, and I think one more. All of them took too long and that perceived indecisiveness (not sure if the refs really were confused) gets players tense. I was a shitty D3 player that barely saw the field so I don't think its the same but I have seen similar stuff happen both in the game and from the sidelines. In hindsight even you yourself think "How did it get that bad"? But in the moment all you thinking is "These Clowns(refs) don't know what they are doing why should I listen to them".
KC should have 20 OF Holding penalties every game. Josh got slammed to the ground 2 seconds after throwing. He threw the ball and that dude grabbed him, adjusted his grip and slammed him to the ground.
the players did commit a lot of penalties but there were several very ticky tack calls that were very borderline.
It also seems like there was more reply assist overturns then I can remember in a game.
So reel in the officiating or get the players up to speed on the rules.
There's a bit of a Hochuli effect. Sean and his dad Ed, are/were notorious for throwing flags and then trying to get as much face time on camera as possible. Questionable calls and then grandstanding while they explain the bad calls.
Replay assist doesn’t even have all the camera angles! ie. Niners vs Seahawks TNF
Roughing the passer penalties got enforced so heavy after Rodgers broke his collar bone and people said back then it was going to be a problem and now it is. They need to find better ways to protect the QB
Do yourself a favour and watch the sarcastaball episode
it is consistency they don't call it every time you can call holding or pi on every play
Meanwhile a patriots head was twisted almost completely around by a full face mask this week and no one called it. The upstairs judge should chime in on safety calls like that.
The new offseason and practice rules might be to blame.
NFFL national flag football league.
~ Perhaps NFL refs should take a page from the NBA, If the foul does not prohibit a player from making a play, weakside fouls should not be called . . . ~
exactly
That is true for the NHL but in the NBA they call and 1 fouls all the time even if the offensive player makes the contact.
Weakside....nevermind
They stifled the game
Agree on the 15 yard penalty review, but I think it should be called by a team. Should be separate from the other play challenges. Each team gets 3 for the game and doesn't lose anything if they lose the challenge. It seems it would delay the game too much to review all of them
The only reason Troy Aikman said that was because they don’t want to get talked to by the league or higher-ups. There were quite a few plays that flag should not have been thrown, but there were other plays that definitely were penalties.
Nobody threads the needle over the middle like Rogers.
what is mcdermott's record against the hail Mary? 🤔 (I don't mean game win/loss, I mean how many times has his defense successfully defended against that pass)
10 years ago that would have been incomplete. Lazard didn’t “control the ball through the ground” or whatever….to the point where it was called incomplete initially. I guess there’s no “Calvin Johnson rule” anymore
Can't mention the fact that the teams were both completely undisciplined. Must blame the discipliners.
The NFL Refs Have Become so Horrible That People are Starting to Defend and Excuse Them...THEY Want to Control The Outcome of NFL Games....These Zebras are ABSOLUTELY on a "Power Trip" During These Games and it Has Become Beyond Disgusting...They are RUINING our Enjoyment of The Game
I think the refs get together and bet on the game, deciding before hand who they are going to try and help win. Raiders vs Steelers game in Vegas was the perfect example: "Steelers are supposed to win, lets make sure they do."
@@spiritualarchitect4276 Isnt it Sickening to The Core?
Can't remember which game, but a receiver went in motion, turned back around the back of the QB and was running toward the line when the ball was snapped. No penalty. Maybe the refs thought they'd switched to CFL rules.
Walked my dog to the bar up the road after halftime. I wish I recorded it cuz it was entertaining meeting all those people losing their minds over the flags every other play.
It’s a contact sport, they literally could throw a flag on any downs. Let the players play.
„some of these calls are penalties“ 😂 some…
Why do people pretend like players can't make a bunch of penalties and be extra bad during a game? People hear how many flags there are and always blame only the refs
Refs had to wild out because Detroit destroyed Dallas.
Sloppy playing is causing a lot of the problem.
if you aint' cheating you ain't trying! WHOOOT!
Raaron Odgers is out of control
You know how to keep the flag count down? STOP COMMITTING PENALTIES! Even if 10 flags shouldn't have been throw (and that's stretching it) then there were STILL entirely too many penalties. I'm sure Rogers has a conspiracy theory that he's dreaming up for why the refs are throwing so many flags. There are still many procedure infractions, one of the O line either lined up off the ball or pulling back before the ball is snapped that are NOT being called. It's just not as bad as last year.
The problem with the Jets is that they’re still the J E T S.
Ridiculous penalties. The refs can throw a flag on every play. They have no consequences when they make a mistake.
Make referees full time employees and have training camps in the off season just like for the players so the refs can get their eyes in and ensure they all see penalties the same way!
When such an important role is a part-time position there’s no wonder the calling is inconsistent.
And when teams have to scheme around individual referees that’s a symptom of your system being broken.
A penalty is a penalty - time for refs to call them. Every game - the Offensive Linemen hold, hold and grab and grab. Call it!!!
buffalo defensive backs were going WWE out there ensuring that jets don't catch the football.
Huh
the jets are so undisciplined, how do you get a holding call when the runner is five yards past you. USE YOUR HEAD!!!!!!
how do you used your head to hold a defensive lineman? ............. asking for a friend
Thank God the Yankee game was going on
Like seriously how is this the refs fault? It’s the players making dumb mistakes.
Although I am a firm believer that the refs are controlling the gambling lines...it is also true most...not all...but most of the flags are penalties as the Rules are written. So my question...why has the talent gotten so bad they can't do a play without a violation? Or have the Rules to protect safety gotten out of hand? If the League really wants to emphasize player safety...how about getting rid of artificial turf? Then decide if these Rules are really necessary
I find it funny that everybody want to talk about penalties when their team or favorites don’t win but be…they are so so quiet when the penalties goes their way.
I want Rich to be mad or talk about when his team win when the penalties goes his way. I guarantee no one will say oh my team won because of penalties.
Clearly missing a hc
Here's an idea ? Let's put flags on offensive skill position players and rename the NFL the National Flag Football League (NFFL) ? The league doesn't let teams play defense anymore. Some of these refs are reaching in their pocket to throw a flag before the penalty occurs ? You can't hit QB's & WR's too high, too low or too hard. Like Peyton Manning, then Tom Brady, and now Pat Mahomes, they get calls in their favor on request.
again Rich, lets get rid of the punch fumble, if its in process of arm tackle OK no problem, but otherwise no way, thats not football
That bs tuck rule was the nfl trying to keep the game within the betting odds.
Aaron Rodgers referencing Sarcastiball is a pretty clear indicator he didn't get the episode.
Open your eyes Rich ,stop being a blind fan
People tune in to watch football, not the refs, let's get back to smash mouth football.
The officiating was mostly fine, the players were responsible. Formation penalties, offsides, false starts, chippy and confrontational attitudes leading to penalties after the play was dead... It was a shambles of the players making. I could even understand the roughing penalty questioned by Rodgers, although I didn't agree with it, because there was a double move. The officials get it in the neck all the time, but it's not always on them.
you want fewer penalties? make the preseason longer and allow more reps.
Hold bad refs accountable
NFL. Nonsense flags league
Nobody is talking about the infractions that were called penalties, we are talking about the penalties that were called that weren’t penalties. Or the Rodgers fumble that was clearly a fumble. Or the roughing the passer calls. Get the calls right or don’t be a ref, it’s that simple.
Thats the comment you wanna make? That some of them are penalties and should be called? What about the 12 other ones they made up? When are people with a platform going to have enough spine to criticize awful officiating? And you have to push back on the whiney morons after the game, too. Don't water down the legit complaints. Facts are facts. Refs are better this year than the previous couple seasons AND last night was an abomination. The refs made themselves the main character. They stole the spotlight from two good football teams and said "LOOK AT ME!". Can't have it.
Adams won't make the Jets any better they have way deeper problems!
This game in fact was the NFL trying to rig a game. And everything Rich brings up here absolute proves it. “They used replay assist on the garret wilson catch” which is AGAINST THE RULES. The Jets HAVE TO CHALLENGE IT to get it overturned. The NFL used replay assist to overturn a penalty against the Jets, NEVER ONCE did they do the same for Buffalo. The NFL called roughing the passer on Epenesa for no reason whatsoever. Or how about how the NFL reinstated the tuck rule for just a single play to help the Jets avoid an obvious fumble.
It would be bad enough if any one of these happened in a game, but they all happened and more than what I brought up. It’s pretty obvious the NFL was attempting to add intrigue to the season by evening out the AFC east.
And i know originally thought it was just the refs messing up, but then both teams just so happen to trade for WRs within about an hour of each other. Which is were the cover up happens. You see cause what happened once the trades happened? Everyone stopped talking about the officiating last night.
Ohh and what’s really bad, is the NFL completely failed at trying to rig a game. Which ultimately shows how terrible the Jets are. They get all the help in the world and still lose.
The refs called a penalty and removed the Jets winning TD. If not for that penalty the Jets win.
I'm waiting on Brockman to blame it on the Chiefs.
Oof cringey. Big swing and a miss loser
@@yourepathetic6706 Brockman is not a pundit, even loosely identified. Truth is more important than homerism. You are a bigger loser, identified by the fact that that was a little swing, but a grand slam. He spends his time trying to keep the Patriots "dynasty" staying in the limelight. Probably you too, it IS all you have to hang onto in today's NFL.
The NFL has made to many rules to where there is a penalty by the rule book every play that could be called. People get mad because they call to many but also get mad if they don't call enough.