First time I have seen someone elses settings for video. Very useful. I never discuss it on YT, because I do not understand video settings so well. I manually focus in video with red peaking more often than AF, but that can cause vibration as I touch the lens. I still have a Lumix Gh6 and keep changing my mind as to which has the better AF in video mode.
I too use manual focus with peaking often :) one thing i would like to see is an option to let the peaking stay active all the time and not just when you use the focus ring! i looked for an option like this but cant see one?
Yes I agree. When a duck is floating on water you can't tell if it has drifted out of focus unless you turn the focus. I use the FN lever to change to manual focus and press the AEL button at the same time. I have this button setup to activate peaking and this way peaking stays active until the camera goes into sleep mode without touching the focus ring. @@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@@MikeLaneFRPShi Mike big fan. By coincidence I solved that issue with a detailed response on this thread about simply assigning a button for focus peaking in the button function settings but for video mode. That will simplify your issue about having full control of focus peaking toggling on and off with a button and not having to turn the focus ring. Shoot in manual video mode press the function button you set up and when you see your histogram disappear from your evf you’re on constant peak mode. Press again and peaking is off and your histogram appears on screen again.
I’m very tempted to try the G9ii for Birds videos. But the OM1 will continue to be my Photography Camera! I continue to dream with a OM1 firmware update or a OM1ii.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video and show us your settings. I will try them out! Also just found this out. If you want to record video in manual mode using focus peaking and set to constant on and not having it time out, so you have to reactivate peaking again by touching the focus ring. Assign an off or other function button that you don’t use and set to peak. So go to cog wheel, page 1, button settings ok, movie icon function ok and assign whatever button to peaking. So shooting in manual in movie mode press function button assigned to peaking and it will stay on until out of focus is reached by subject movement or whatever. Keep in mind there are button settings in picture and movie mode separately. Which was my mistake when only assigned focus peaking in picture mode only and when shooting in manual movie mode focus peaking would time out unless I turn the focus ring on the lens. Anyway hope this helps someone out if they continue to have issues with the c-af-+tracking using the om1 with the 150-400 that has a very short depth of field especially using the longer focal lengths. Maybe this camera with it’s small sensor will never focus through out the whole sequence. I have asked a couple of Om ambassadors how they shot video and they all said they shoot in manual mode. So maybe no software will get it 100%.
Interesting video, Dennis. When OM-1 was released, reviewers said "bird detection" does not work in video. Maybe they did not knew the trick about activate the tracking ON. I did not tried it myself, but looking at your video I have the feeling "bird detection" works until you press RECORD button. From that moment, the tracking replaces the "bird detection". Tracking works different than "bird detection". But it should be good enough. I guess the same would be in photo mode if you use C-AF + TR. I did not tried it, I always use just C-AF + "bird detection" in photo mode.
Thanks ... i almost put in a section comparing what you say here because i also feel the bird AF are WAY better before pressing the record button. I will test this some more because i can record the footage on the Ninja V directly so all the camera stays with "the white boxes" :)
Great video Dennis! I have also tried the CAF+tracking bird detect in video and struggled with focus drift, especially when the subject is a little further away or the subject is in a scene with low contrast. In these situation I have had better luck turning off CAF+tracking with bird AI and just shoot CAF with the OM1's "large" focus area. I find using this method I have more "cinematic" looking footage when the CAF speed is set to -1 and the CAF sensitivity is left at 0. The reason I choose the aforementioned CAF speed and sensitivity settings, is that if/when the focus begins to drift, it will drift less, and correct the focus sooner. Also, in my opinion the footage appears to follow focus the subject similar to what cinematographers would do when focusing manually. The downside to this method is that you must keep your subject located in the bottom portion of the large focus area, so the camera doesn't focus on the foreground, and you will have to use the joystick to move the focus area. Obviously, these settings aren't ideal for every situation but I have had surprisingly good results taking footage of shorebirds with them. Please let me know if you have tried something similar to what I suggested, and if so, how it compares to CAF+tracking with bird AI focus. Thanks again!
Thanks Jay for your input! actually when i had the Sony A1 i did it exactly like you described here but on the OM-1 i use both bird tracking, C-AF like you and manual focus with focus peaking. I mostly shoot short bird sequences so i just need the birds to be in focus but i would do the same as you if i needed focus shifts and so one. But right now i just want the focus to reach its target as fast as possible :) :)
Interesting video Dennis. Nice that you show your settings for video. This is something I am sometimes asked when giving talks. My setting for video are the same , and like you, I wish it id not `drift` as much.
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife To be honest, I doubt it will be sorted until the next top range OM System camera is announced. Whether it will be called the OM2, who knows. It would be good if they could sort it out with a Firmware upgrade. Good to see you filmed the footage with the Ninja. Did you see Duade Paton`s video where he uses the Ninja.
hi Dennis thanks for this video about the video capabilities of the OM-1.i hope that OM systems will release a software upgrade for the AF problems. All in all, the OM-1 is a usable camera. where software improvements are still needed. I also hope that OM systems releases new cameras in the pro series/line
Thanks and yes its gonna be exiting to see their next move! they are on the right "path" in my opinion but there are def. room for improvement 😆@@theflyingdutchman7127
Hi have you looked in to the new G9II? the reviews I have seen is that the AF is much better for video and tracking subjects. I have mine on pre order.
OMG< please to god tell me you have the perfect settings to get around the constant af hunting...! excellent content, again! I exclusively press the record video button while in a stills mode custom setting, because I've found the dedicated video mode to be unable to even acquire initial focus. Do you know of a hot button to force an initial autofocus in the movie (dial) mode, despite using all your AF settings?
I'm new to your channel and have been enjoying the content.Thank you. I was wondering - the opening shot of you walking and talking to the camera.... did someone shoot that shot or did you do it some other way? It looked like a pan using subject recognition. Am I wrong?
Good to hear thank you :) actually i use many different cameras to film my self and in this episode i used the iphone 14 pro on a gimbal and you are right, i used face tracking, so it followed me in the start :)
Nice video Dennis. I don't do lots of video for wildlife. But I use it often for family. I will give it a go using CAF+TR and face detect on or Bird detect for humans or birds, receptively. I have my sensitivity at +1 ad I think -1 makes more sense to avoid AF jumps quickly to nearby subject or when someone, etc comes unexpectedly into the scene. Cheers...
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife I already have been using Face and Eye Detection with CAF but with +1 sensitivity. I am wondering if it will be better with CAF+TR. Anyhow, thanks again Dennis.
muy buenos consejos para los que trabajan con el sistema olimpus. Como siempre unos vídeos geniales, correlimos común, correlimos menudo y chorlitejo joven grande, también el avefría, todo genial.
I found this answer online: Focus locks for high speed video when you start recording, so C-AF will not work. This behaviour is implied by the phrase in the OM-D manuals about Filming High Speed Movies: "Focus, exposure, and white balance lock while recording."
I tried to use caf in video also but have never been very happy with it. It drifts from time to time especially with vegetation obstruction. I might want to try the caf with tracking to see whether it will stick onto the birds better.
@@DennisJacobsenWildlifeI also have a Nikon Z9 with me and when before the recent firmware update, the video eye af for video is so much better and it sticks to the birds like glue. But there are obviously advantages for using the OM-1 in other areas but I really hope that even though OM system isn’t specialized in video I m hoping they at least make some genuine improvements in video af. I think the af for birds tracking is right there with the best out there but the video still needs improvement.
Jeg prøver inde i menu at sætte Fugl til video men den hopper fra og sætter ansigt istedet for ved hvad jeg gør forkert ?? Har Gemt indstillinger på C4 alt andet er der ?
First time I have seen someone elses settings for video. Very useful. I never discuss it on YT, because I do not understand video settings so well. I manually focus in video with red peaking more often than AF, but that can cause vibration as I touch the lens. I still have a Lumix Gh6 and keep changing my mind as to which has the better AF in video mode.
I too use manual focus with peaking often :) one thing i would like to see is an option to let the peaking stay active all the time and not just when you use the focus ring! i looked for an option like this but cant see one?
Yes I agree. When a duck is floating on water you can't tell if it has drifted out of focus unless you turn the focus.
I use the FN lever to change to manual focus and press the AEL button at the same time. I have this button setup to activate peaking and this way peaking stays active until the camera goes into sleep mode without touching the focus ring. @@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@MikeLaneFRPS Super advice 👍🏻 will look into custom setup like this 😀
@@MikeLaneFRPShi Mike big fan. By coincidence I solved that issue with a detailed response on this thread about simply assigning a button for focus peaking in the button function settings but for video mode. That will simplify your issue about having full control of focus peaking toggling on and off with a button and not having to turn the focus ring. Shoot in manual video mode press the function button you set up and when you see your histogram disappear from your evf you’re on constant peak mode. Press again and peaking is off and your histogram appears on screen again.
I’m very tempted to try the G9ii for Birds videos. But the OM1 will continue to be my Photography Camera! I continue to dream with a OM1 firmware update or a OM1ii.
Excellent informative video . Little Stint , Curlew Sandpiper just lovely .
:)
Thanks for taking the time to make this video and show us your settings. I will try them out! Also just found this out. If you want to record video in manual mode using focus peaking and set to constant on and not having it time out, so you have to reactivate peaking again by touching the focus ring. Assign an off or other function button that you don’t use and set to peak. So go to cog wheel, page 1, button settings ok, movie icon function ok and assign whatever button to peaking.
So shooting in manual in movie mode press function button assigned to peaking and it will stay on until out of focus is reached by subject movement or whatever.
Keep in mind there are button settings in picture and movie mode separately. Which was my mistake when only assigned focus peaking in picture mode only and when shooting in manual movie mode focus peaking would time out unless I turn the focus ring on the lens. Anyway hope this helps someone out if they continue to have issues with the c-af-+tracking using the om1 with the 150-400 that has a very short depth of field especially using the longer focal lengths. Maybe this camera with it’s small sensor will never focus through out the whole sequence. I have asked a couple of Om ambassadors how they shot video and they all said they shoot in manual mode. So maybe no software will get it 100%.
Thanks for your input! :)
Nicely presented and explained 👍🙏
Thanks Geoff 😁
Thanks for making this video. It is a helpful reference for videos for the OM1.
Thank you for your comment Andrew :)
Interesting video, Dennis.
When OM-1 was released, reviewers said "bird detection" does not work in video. Maybe they did not knew the trick about activate the tracking ON.
I did not tried it myself, but looking at your video I have the feeling "bird detection" works until you press RECORD button. From that moment, the tracking replaces the "bird detection". Tracking works different than "bird detection". But it should be good enough. I guess the same would be in photo mode if you use C-AF + TR. I did not tried it, I always use just C-AF + "bird detection" in photo mode.
Thanks ... i almost put in a section comparing what you say here because i also feel the bird AF are WAY better before pressing the record button. I will test this some more because i can record the footage on the Ninja V directly so all the camera stays with "the white boxes" :)
Also thank you for the tips from your video !
I never had the idea to activate tracking in the video mode. Now, after I saw your video, I will try it.
Thx for the video.I ´m waiting for better wheater and some intresting birds to check this hints.
IMO this is a Dunlin not a Curlew Sandpiper.
Thanks for your comment 😀
Great video Dennis! I have also tried the CAF+tracking bird detect in video and struggled with focus drift, especially when the subject is a little further away or the subject is in a scene with low contrast. In these situation I have had better luck turning off CAF+tracking with bird AI and just shoot CAF with the OM1's "large" focus area. I find using this method I have more "cinematic" looking footage when the CAF speed is set to -1 and the CAF sensitivity is left at 0. The reason I choose the aforementioned CAF speed and sensitivity settings, is that if/when the focus begins to drift, it will drift less, and correct the focus sooner. Also, in my opinion the footage appears to follow focus the subject similar to what cinematographers would do when focusing manually. The downside to this method is that you must keep your subject located in the bottom portion of the large focus area, so the camera doesn't focus on the foreground, and you will have to use the joystick to move the focus area.
Obviously, these settings aren't ideal for every situation but I have had surprisingly good results taking footage of shorebirds with them.
Please let me know if you have tried something similar to what I suggested, and if so, how it compares to CAF+tracking with bird AI focus.
Thanks again!
Thanks Jay for your input! actually when i had the Sony A1 i did it exactly like you described here but on the OM-1 i use both bird tracking, C-AF like you and manual focus with focus peaking. I mostly shoot short bird sequences so i just need the birds to be in focus but i would do the same as you if i needed focus shifts and so one. But right now i just want the focus to reach its target as fast as possible :) :)
Have you noticed an improvement in video after since firmware 1.7? I am new to the OM1 and am very impressed so far
The AF is much better now in video with FW 1.7 👍🏻😁 the new episode with the red deers are shoot handheld and with animal AF with no problems at all 🎥
Interesting video Dennis. Nice that you show your settings for video. This is something I am sometimes asked when giving talks. My setting for video are the same , and like you, I wish it id not `drift` as much.
Thanks Roger :) yes imagine they can get it sorted! would be so nice
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife To be honest, I doubt it will be sorted until the next top range OM System camera is announced. Whether it will be called the OM2, who knows. It would be good if they could sort it out with a Firmware upgrade. Good to see you filmed the footage with the Ninja. Did you see Duade Paton`s video where he uses the Ninja.
i think you are right@@rogerhance5883
hi Dennis
thanks for this video about the video capabilities of the OM-1.i hope that OM systems will release a software upgrade for the AF problems. All in all, the OM-1 is a usable camera. where software improvements are still needed. I also hope that OM systems releases new cameras in the pro series/line
Thanks and yes its gonna be exiting to see their next move! they are on the right "path" in my opinion but there are def. room for improvement 😆@@theflyingdutchman7127
Hi have you looked in to the new G9II? the reviews I have seen is that the AF is much better for video and tracking subjects. I have mine on pre order.
Yes have seen the initial reviews and it looks like a great camera for sure! Would to try it out and compare to my OM-1 👍🏻📷😀
If you have the chance try the G9ii !!!! I'm curious to know your opinion
Would love to test it out! if i get the chance i will make a comparison against the OM-1 😀
OMG< please to god tell me you have the perfect settings to get around the constant af hunting...!
excellent content, again!
I exclusively press the record video button while in a stills mode custom setting, because I've found the dedicated video mode to be unable to even acquire initial focus. Do you know of a hot button to force an initial autofocus in the movie (dial) mode, despite using all your AF settings?
AF ON button focus also in video .. i use it to get focus begore hitting the record button 👍🏻😀
Great video Dennis. Interesting to see your settings. If it works for you.. Stuff the 180 degrees rule.I think the videos look great 😀👍
Thank you 😀👍🏻
I'm new to your channel and have been enjoying the content.Thank you.
I was wondering - the opening shot of you walking and talking to the camera.... did someone shoot that shot or did you do it some other way? It looked like a pan using subject recognition. Am I wrong?
Good to hear thank you :) actually i use many different cameras to film my self and in this episode i used the iphone 14 pro on a gimbal and you are right, i used face tracking, so it followed me in the start :)
Du er en haj til at forklare Dennis 😉 Respekt her fra den er pisse flot og godt lavet den video - Thumbs up her fra 👍
Mange tak Christoffer! :) :)
Nice video Dennis. I don't do lots of video for wildlife. But I use it often for family. I will give it a go using CAF+TR and face detect on or Bird detect for humans or birds, receptively. I have my sensitivity at +1 ad I think -1 makes more sense to avoid AF jumps quickly to nearby subject or when someone, etc comes unexpectedly into the scene. Cheers...
Thanks :) the +TR are only needed for bird AF .. for face and eye detection C-AF does the trick :) have a great day!
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife I already have been using Face and Eye Detection with CAF but with +1 sensitivity. I am wondering if it will be better with CAF+TR. Anyhow, thanks again Dennis.
Nice video Dennis, I wonder if you shoot 1080P 240fps, would that give you a better focus without out of focus frames?
120 to 240fps does not support CAF with the OM-1 in video (only SAF or manual focus). Fortunately, the 4k 60fps mode does :)
You already got the answer from Jay :) thanks for commenting Peter!
muy buenos consejos para los que trabajan con el sistema olimpus. Como siempre unos vídeos geniales, correlimos común, correlimos menudo y chorlitejo joven grande, también el avefría, todo genial.
Thanks Abel :)
If 240fps is selected, do we have access to autofocus? If yes, what types do we have access to?
I found this answer online:
Focus locks for high speed video when you start recording, so C-AF will not work. This behaviour is implied by the phrase in the OM-D manuals about Filming High Speed Movies: "Focus, exposure, and white balance lock while recording."
I tried to use caf in video also but have never been very happy with it. It drifts from time to time especially with vegetation obstruction. I might want to try the caf with tracking to see whether it will stick onto the birds better.
I tried different settings and its the same problem, super inconsistent
@@DennisJacobsenWildlifeI also have a Nikon Z9 with me and when before the recent firmware update, the video eye af for video is so much better and it sticks to the birds like glue. But there are obviously advantages for using the OM-1 in other areas but I really hope that even though OM system isn’t specialized in video I m hoping they at least make some genuine improvements in video af. I think the af for birds tracking is right there with the best out there but the video still needs improvement.
Hi Dennis, I just found your channel, which is very good. I also have the OM System OM-1, and I think you Just help me with my video.
glad to hear 😁👍🏻
Hey Jeg har osse olympus om-1 og syntes jeg har lidt problemer med at filme dvs så videoen blir helt skarp nu vil jeg prøve dine råd 🤗📷
Jeg filmer næsten kun med manuel autofocus med OM-1 🎥👍🏻😁
Jeg prøver inde i menu at sætte Fugl til video men den hopper fra og sætter ansigt istedet for ved hvad jeg gør forkert ?? Har Gemt indstillinger på C4 alt andet er der ?
@@zimba07 husk at sætte kameraet til C-AF + TR eller kan du ikke aktivere fugle AF i video :)