Tyrone, the metal bar that is taken from the compartment on top and placed at the tip of the airreal, what is it called and where did you get it? Thank you Tyrone
Thanks for the video. I always teach redundancy throughout a system. Seems like there's some missing here. 1) All 3 anchors to the same rung? 2) Both ropes terminate at the rigging ring. What about the ring itself? Could one line be extended to the victim? 3) Never been a fan of raising & lowering with a machine. How is that any different than using a truck's winch to raise a victim? Nice teamwork, you guys have got this down!
1 - That anchor is without doubt strong enough for that single person load, its part of the structural integrity of that aerial. Its not like a normal ladder rung where yes, youd load share between 2 or even 3. 2 - That Ring has a 10000 lb MBS on it, its not going to fail with the stresses of a 2 person load, let alone a 1 person load. And no, they do not just 'fail'. But yes, they could put an Apline Butterfly in thee or a Long Tailed Bowline to creat a tail that could act as the secondary for the casualty which by-passes the Main Attachment Point. 3 - If the manufacturer signs off on the use like this, and the team trains for such a method, not seeing a problem with it. I am curious about the need for Load Releasing hitches though, so old school but like most Fire Depts, especially big ones, but change is not something that happens uickly in the the Fire Dept.
@@kiwionarope then why use 2 ropes then they are rated at 9,000lbs ones good enough they don’t just fail…right?…it’s not about that mindset of it won’t fail…anything could fail below that ring and theirs nothing below that ring to have any redundancy…
An engineered, structural anchor used within its design requirements won't fail. And the reason for 2 x 9000lbf ropes is that they are being used in an ever changing environment. It only takes a loaded rope to hit some cladding on a roof edge and that rope will be severed, so two is better than one.
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Amazing demo LAFD, Thxs4sharing 👍🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒
Great video Tyrone. Thanks. Hope to see more great videos like this one
Tracy Parkhurst thanks for the input. I’ll work on it
That’s pretty slick! Thanks for sharing
Thank you!
Awesome technical truck work 👏
At 4:34... I hear 'Utini'. Are there Jawas in the LAFD?
Awesome video by the way.
HILARIOUS! i went back and had to listen again.
Do you have the link to LAFD pdf with aerial rope operations?
I do not I’m sorry
Tyrone, the metal bar that is taken from the compartment on top and placed at the tip of the airreal, what is it called and where did you get it? Thank you Tyrone
“Rescue Bar” and it is provided by the aerial manufacturer, ALF/LTI.
Los Feliz boys!
Isn't that Chet from Engine 51? Is he at 35 now? The man is ageless!
TheKMG365 not not Chet
Thanks for the video.
I always teach redundancy throughout a system. Seems like there's some missing here.
1) All 3 anchors to the same rung?
2) Both ropes terminate at the rigging ring. What about the ring itself? Could one line be extended to the victim?
3) Never been a fan of raising & lowering with a machine. How is that any different than using a truck's winch to raise a victim?
Nice teamwork, you guys have got this down!
JimT225 I can’t give advice or insight on the function of any mechanism in this video due to liability. But thanks for watching.
1 - That anchor is without doubt strong enough for that single person load, its part of the structural integrity of that aerial. Its not like a normal ladder rung where yes, youd load share between 2 or even 3.
2 - That Ring has a 10000 lb MBS on it, its not going to fail with the stresses of a 2 person load, let alone a 1 person load. And no, they do not just 'fail'.
But yes, they could put an Apline Butterfly in thee or a Long Tailed Bowline to creat a tail that could act as the secondary for the casualty which by-passes the Main Attachment Point.
3 - If the manufacturer signs off on the use like this, and the team trains for such a method, not seeing a problem with it.
I am curious about the need for Load Releasing hitches though, so old school but like most Fire Depts, especially big ones, but change is not something that happens uickly in the the Fire Dept.
@@kiwionarope then why use 2 ropes then they are rated at 9,000lbs ones good enough they don’t just fail…right?…it’s not about that mindset of it won’t fail…anything could fail below that ring and theirs nothing below that ring to have any redundancy…
An engineered, structural anchor used within its design requirements won't fail.
And the reason for 2 x 9000lbf ropes is that they are being used in an ever changing environment. It only takes a loaded rope to hit some cladding on a roof edge and that rope will be severed, so two is better than one.
Should we double up the Ring? Like IRATA has said you need to double up anchor plates?