‪Ballum - Callum Knows Ben Is Lying To Him.. ‬

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @karlsmith4168
    @karlsmith4168 5 лет назад +161

    Kudos to Tony Clay and Max Bowden. I feel like I'm spying on real life. These two actors have created a real love story, and it's beautiful. I wish all love stories felt this real.

  • @ciara37
    @ciara37 5 лет назад +199

    Ben is literally me the way he shot up when Callum asked if he’d fancy a Chinese

  • @itsonlysound
    @itsonlysound 5 лет назад +262

    Phil's ability to repeatedly destroy Ben's life is quite the talent. Imagine threatening your emotionally fragile , paternal love craving-child, with killing yourself, or having them help you kill someone else? Phil's always plumbing new depths.

    • @geraldinepearson5611
      @geraldinepearson5611 5 лет назад +27

      My thoughts exactly. He is so unfair to Ben. Poor lad was just getting his happiness and then Phil's dramas come and ruin it. Ben needs to just forget about Phil.

    • @ashleycrystal9719
      @ashleycrystal9719 5 лет назад +7

      You’re both right

    • @GinaSigillito
      @GinaSigillito 5 лет назад +13

      Having a parent like this is the worst. I really feel for Ben right now.

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +11

      itsonlysound And Ben’s about to lose the best thing that’s happened to him because of Phil.

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +8

      Gina Sigillito I feel even more for Callum who is obviously in love with Ben. I don’t think I can take another break up of my fav couples. Already lost Robert on Emmerdale.

  • @KETTYKISH
    @KETTYKISH 5 лет назад +116

    Tony Clay is so so beautiful when playing broody and sad.

    • @hazelsimms3609
      @hazelsimms3609 5 лет назад +10

      KETTYKISH He's beautiful all the time

    • @KETTYKISH
      @KETTYKISH 5 лет назад +3

      Hazel Simms Very true! ✨

    • @desireealexam
      @desireealexam 5 лет назад +7

      Tony is gorgeous all the time no matter what! 😍😍

    • @hainguyen-lj4cj
      @hainguyen-lj4cj 4 года назад +1

      @kmgood yes, tony clay

  • @rehnumachowdhury3629
    @rehnumachowdhury3629 5 лет назад +78

    Ben just wants his father approval but Phil treats him like dirt

  • @LittleGiant11037
    @LittleGiant11037 5 лет назад +41

    Aww, bless Callum. That present is so adorable. Ben will love it.

    • @KETTYKISH
      @KETTYKISH 5 лет назад +3

      Only just saw now after watching this clip 100 times that it has BM on it!

    • @LittleGiant11037
      @LittleGiant11037 5 лет назад +3

      @@KETTYKISH Oh God, you're right! Oh, that's so cute. Callum is such a sweetheart.

    • @simsimme1799
      @simsimme1799 4 года назад +1

      @@KETTYKISH omg I just saw that! Never noticed before

  • @Sallie13
    @Sallie13 2 года назад +8

    Callum could not have picked a more cuter picture than that.
    So gorgeous.

  • @erin8432
    @erin8432 5 лет назад +96

    I don’t like what’s happening to Ben but on the plus side they give us AT LEAST one kiss from them every episode! Most gay couples in soaps go weeks without kissing, and only do it on special occasions!

    • @kendon0923
      @kendon0923 5 лет назад +15

      Kate B. Cough! Robron cough!

    • @erin8432
      @erin8432 5 лет назад +3

      Donald Samuels exactly who I was thinking of 😂

    • @JordanjamesX
      @JordanjamesX 5 лет назад +5

      I like that Ben and Callum kiss but wish it was a bit more passionate.

    • @andydang9647
      @andydang9647 5 лет назад +3

      @@juliaoliveira-rebic1850 after every storm comes a rainbow 🌈

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +1

      Well we won’t be seeing any for the at least the next month.

  • @anitazuniga9836
    @anitazuniga9836 5 лет назад +11

    The way he talks...he was in shock.

  • @Hop3fulRomantic
    @Hop3fulRomantic 5 лет назад +28

    Gaaaah this is heart breaking!!! The look on Ben's face at the end...you know he's worrying about it all and he wants to confide in Callum but doesn't want to taint him with all the hideous baggage. Seeing them snuggle together like that is so adorable! Please please writers don't rip this amazing couple apart when they're only really just beginning!!! Yes Ben has done some terrible terrible things but he's trying to be a better man, the person he was always supposed to be but hasn't been able to be because of his wretched father! Someone who is worthy of Callum. I really really hope Ben tells Callum about Sharon's baby, he might be able to help or offer some support. Callum, Lola, Jay and Lexi need to lead Ben away from all the toxicity (Phil, Sharon, Keanu) and be a proper family. But this is Eastenders we're talking about. I've still not fully recovered from Jack not getting his happy ending with Ronnie!!!

  • @biggestgay639
    @biggestgay639 5 лет назад +17

    Why are they doing this to us- on Christmas!

  • @SuperDVDfanatic
    @SuperDVDfanatic 5 лет назад +12

    To be fair to Ben he didn't lie to Callum, he did say his dad being difficult was part of the reason for his bad day. He just didn't go into details about what Phil was doing to be difficult. Ben did save Jack from being burnt to death.

  • @Jojohoward.
    @Jojohoward. 5 лет назад +35

    I can’t put into words how I feel about that end scene, like it was so soft and if there wasn’t more going on I would be the happiest. But knowing Ben is so conflicted atm bc of not wanting to let his dad down and that they’re probably going to have a temporary “break up” at Christmas 🤧

  • @cynthiareed1277
    @cynthiareed1277 5 лет назад +35

    I love Ben and Callum they are so cute together one of my favorite couple on a TV show at this moment❤❤❤☺😍😍😍

    • @lauracostelloe4068
      @lauracostelloe4068 5 лет назад +3

      Max Bowden has confirmed they're splitting up 💔

    • @cynthiareed1277
      @cynthiareed1277 5 лет назад +3

      @@lauracostelloe4068 yes I have found out sadness I woke up and I have seen it😭😟 I don't regret saying that they was my favorite couple I hope they get back together

  • @giovanna7330
    @giovanna7330 5 лет назад +18

    Beautiful present. So worried about what's going to happen next though 😭

  • @maryrose8478
    @maryrose8478 5 лет назад +10

    Oooo I live for the angst. Sorry fluff lovers but I love the drama. There’ll be hurt and then there’ll be comfort. That scene between Ben and his dad was some incredible acting. Good job all involved.

  • @desireealexam
    @desireealexam 5 лет назад +14

    Ben: “Now we’re talkin’! You know me so well.”
    Callum: *brooding, thinking* Well apparently I don’t! 🥺

  • @SlothBird
    @SlothBird 4 года назад +6

    4:29 ben's hand rubbing Callum's leg

  • @susanclarke5724
    @susanclarke5724 5 лет назад +59

    I hope Ben comes clean to Callum about the Daddy problem and chooses what he is building with Callum over Phil's problem because he's going to need his snuggle bunny when the truth comes out and his family get blown apart. 😭😭 Don't see a very merry Christmas for the Mitchell family.

    • @KETTYKISH
      @KETTYKISH 5 лет назад +4

      Susan Clarke Snuggle bunny! 💖

    • @thomashernandez4181
      @thomashernandez4181 5 лет назад +1

      @@KETTYKISH On this side of the Pond "cuddle bunny" is what we usually say. Remarkably close, though. :)

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +3

      How the hell has Phil managed to stay alive for so long.

    • @itsonlysound
      @itsonlysound 5 лет назад +5

      I don't think thats going to happen tbh. Ben always keeps things to himself (goes back to his childhood - I think he always feels alone with his problems) and given that this involves his dad, it just complicates it further. He's just going to want Callum as far away from the fallout as possible, but even he tells him the truth, that won't happen. :(

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +3

      itsonlysound I disagree. I think Callum will draw Ben out. I think Ben is going to have a difficult choice to make. Callum is not easily Intimidated. Ben will be conflicted. But I think Phil is going to force Ben to choose between His Dad and Callum. Just like Robert Put Aaron on the straight and narrow on Emmerdale.

  • @LittleGiant11037
    @LittleGiant11037 5 лет назад +16

    As much as I would love for Ben to cut Phil out of his life for good, it's not gonna be that easy. As someone with a toxic father, I can safely say that familial loyalty is a powerful thing. Choosing to abandon them is extremely difficult. I sympathise greatly with Ben.

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +1

      Maybe Phil’s liber. Will explode in his face first.

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +1

      Liver* Sorry

    • @GinaSigillito
      @GinaSigillito 5 лет назад +2

      Same here. People think it's so easy but it's not.

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +2

      Gaby Bladen I To have a Toxic Father. And I have been able to limit my interaction. But have not been able to cut him out completely.

  • @GinaSigillito
    @GinaSigillito 5 лет назад +76

    They're going to be fine but strap in for the angst over the next few days.

    • @meshandaellison
      @meshandaellison 5 лет назад +11

      I think its gonna lead to the I love you phase this angst

    • @GinaSigillito
      @GinaSigillito 5 лет назад +3

      Meshanda Ellison exactly.

    • @LittleGiant11037
      @LittleGiant11037 5 лет назад +8

      An 'I love you' at the end of the inevitable angst fest would make the pain worth it.

    • @meshandaellison
      @meshandaellison 5 лет назад +7

      @@LittleGiant11037 right...need them to be okay...cause Robron broke me

    • @LittleGiant11037
      @LittleGiant11037 5 лет назад +4

      @@meshandaellison Saaaaame. I only found Ballum on the first place because I was mourning over Robron and needed something to fill the void in my heart, haha. Can't lose them too.

  • @kayleigh7598
    @kayleigh7598 4 года назад +8

    I think everyone can relate to Ben when asked if they want a Chinese.

  • @simsimme1799
    @simsimme1799 3 года назад +2

    “Honey made a doubtful contribution to the cheese-making”
    What the hell are they watching? 😂04:48

  • @geneventide5314
    @geneventide5314 5 лет назад +26

    Oh my gosh Phil sucks! He such a bad dad

  • @mf8080
    @mf8080 5 лет назад +6

    Ben is such a complex character, he can be such a cutie pie sometimes...

  • @juankabaker
    @juankabaker 5 лет назад +20

    3:54 on. Sorry I cannot say enough, those two make ....

  • @kellylakey3920
    @kellylakey3920 4 года назад +4

    the way they act feels so real..
    sometimes I accaully think there dating because the way they act

  • @stereotypicalbookworm
    @stereotypicalbookworm 5 лет назад +45

    I get why some people find the Ben/Phil relationship frustrating but I find it incredibly realistic. Ben is a lot of things but Ben is loyal to a fault and Ben loves his dad. People who expect Ben to just cut off his relationship with Phil completely don't understand how hard it is to cut off toxic people in your life, especially if it's a parent and especially if it's a parent like Phil who is masterful at dangling just enough amount of love and attention to give Ben hope. People should be realistic with regards to how Ben is going to handle this, he cares and loves for Callum but his relationship with his dad is complicated and if Ben ends up having to choose, it's not going to be Callum he chooses unfortunately. As a lover of angst, personally I love it and I am really already super into the way they're handling this because it's so character-driven and it's not as simple as Ben is Bad and Callum is Good and Ben must choose between being a Bad Boy, etc. Instead it's far more complex than that and delves into the source of a lot of Ben's issues - his father.

    • @GinaSigillito
      @GinaSigillito 5 лет назад +6

      hj bingo. If you have a father like this, you know what it's like.

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +5

      Yes he does. But if that selfish bastard would think about Ben just once then I’d agree. Why should Ben sacrifice his life. Ben will either learn how and when to tell his Dad where to get off or he will lose every love interest. No spouse is going to take a backseat to their in-laws. Phil needs to learn When Ben is in a relationship HIS PARTNER COMES FIRST NOT DADDY.

    • @GinaSigillito
      @GinaSigillito 5 лет назад +3

      Marcel Noonan this is the big conflict right now. Phil calling when Ben was in the middle of such an important conversation with Callum was serious foreshadowing. Ben will choose Callum but it will take a bit of eye opening.

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +1

      Gina Sigillito How So?

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +3

      hj I’m not saying it isn’t easy. I’m saying Phil is a selfish prick. And I know exactly how hard it is to get away from a loved one who is Toxic. When my Dad fell off the wagon I had to do the hardest thing I ever did. Divorce myself from him. How many times has Ben Been burned.

  • @jaynesmith8509
    @jaynesmith8509 2 года назад +2

    The way bens fear of Phil drinking again terrifies him

  • @richardreed7608
    @richardreed7608 4 месяца назад +1

    Ballum Ben and Callum My Two Boys From EastEnders ❤❤❤

  • @geraldinepearson5611
    @geraldinepearson5611 5 лет назад +30

    I hope when the truth comes out Ben can say his 'I told you so' about Golden Boy Keanu. And I hope Phil tries to treat Ben as his son as he should and Ben tells his to sling his hook!!

    • @thomashernandez4181
      @thomashernandez4181 5 лет назад +3

      What does "sling his hook" mean? American here. Thanks. :)

    • @geraldinepearson5611
      @geraldinepearson5611 5 лет назад +9

      @@thomashernandez4181 It basically means Ben to tell Phil to beat it, get lost, f off! lol! 🤣

    • @rpv3378
      @rpv3378 5 лет назад +2

      Why does Phill want to beat Keanu up?

    • @GinaSigillito
      @GinaSigillito 5 лет назад +4

      This is what I'm hoping for.

    • @kaylirowe1153
      @kaylirowe1153 5 лет назад +2

      @@rpv3378 because keanu cheated on Louise(phils daughter) with Sharon who is phils wife

  • @akimvszan
    @akimvszan 5 лет назад +6

    So happy for them and jealous!!! Singh !!

  • @anthonylabrum4095
    @anthonylabrum4095 5 лет назад +8

    I need a callum in my life

  • @starsvibeloops
    @starsvibeloops 5 лет назад +34

    callum face, hes so sad :\

  • @jk-gx6nc
    @jk-gx6nc 4 года назад +2

    Phil is just a horrible man and I hate the way he treats Ben, whenever Phil wants something from Ben, he has to pick on Ben's insecurities and manipulate him into doing his dirty work. He's honestly the worse parent ever, the way he treats Ben just makes me sick

  • @shannonvowles7074
    @shannonvowles7074 4 года назад +3

    Anyone else notice. When ben got a drink out of the fridge there was no blood on his shirt. But when he sits down there is then blood on his shirt.

    • @shannonvowles7074
      @shannonvowles7074 4 года назад +1

      @@juliaoliveira-rebic1850 glad I'm not the only one that notices it

  • @kellylakey3920
    @kellylakey3920 4 года назад +5

    at the end callum was about to kiss him agian on the head but realised it wasnt probably scripted

  • @amandalayton4708
    @amandalayton4708 5 лет назад +3

    What a truly dreadful father phil is he should have done ben and us all a favour and had a nice big drink what a shame ben us dragged into his dads mess again shame about him and callum

  • @alicezecevich2654
    @alicezecevich2654 5 лет назад +7

    You can see on Callum's face that Callum is slowly having second thoughts, especially when Ben totally lied straight to his face on what really happened!

    • @KETTYKISH
      @KETTYKISH 5 лет назад +8

      Alice Zecevich Yes. But I don’t think it’s second thoughts (just now), but rather deep disappointment. But I think on some level Callum gets why Ben cannot let go of his past and I even think Ben here knows very well that Callum knows Ben lied to him.. Ben just cannot figure out how to get himself out of this situation. His dad has an immense hold on him and it’s toxic.

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +2

      KETTYKISH I think Callum is going to risk losing Ben by telling Phil where to go.

    • @alicezecevich2654
      @alicezecevich2654 5 лет назад +2

      Kettyfish I think Callum is too smart to do that, I think Callum might tell phil some home truth's on what he's doing to Ben!🤔🤔🤔

  • @shannonvowles7074
    @shannonvowles7074 5 лет назад +7

    How did jacks blood got on his shirt if he was wearing his jacket all the time, helping Jack home aswell?

    • @nikko__5850
      @nikko__5850 5 лет назад +2

      Shannon logo
      Are you a copper? Lol

  • @DOCvip808
    @DOCvip808 5 лет назад +10

    Thank you for these! I'm in the US and dont get this here :)

  • @onceuponatime5515
    @onceuponatime5515 4 года назад +3

    Who agrees with me Tony Clay looks like Ben Platt

  • @nikko__5850
    @nikko__5850 5 лет назад +5

    What a toxic father/son relationship.
    Phil, get it together and move on. Mate, you’ve cheated so many times.
    Let your son be happy for once.
    However, that is so me when someone ask if you would like Chinese food😊🤣😋

  • @MerimaTropoja
    @MerimaTropoja 5 лет назад +12

    The emotional manipulating is horrible, what kind of parent makes their Child feel guilty for being happy??? When Ben was miserable for years did Phil feel bad about having happiness in his life, and as that isn't vile enough he actually tells him he will kill himself if Ben doesn't help him kill someone else, what kind of position is that put anyone in let alone your son😱Why does Ben have to risk what's good in his life because his fathers wife had an affair??? Phil can't stand to look like a mug but he has no problem being a murderer....????
    Callum now knows that Ben is hiding things but he didn't look angry or disappointed , he looked sad 💔and worried for Ben💗

    • @KETTYKISH
      @KETTYKISH 5 лет назад +5

      Merima-Gabriella Tropoja That’s what I saw. A lot of sadness in Callum’s eyes and he is worried about Ben for sure. Callum must know how hard a situation Ben is in because of Phil. I’m thinking maybe at some point, Callum should go talk to Phil and read him the riots. But really hard. And even if it’s not his job, maybe coming from an outsider it will somehow sober up Phil......

    • @GinaSigillito
      @GinaSigillito 5 лет назад +3

      KETTYKISH this was what I wanted. Maybe it's still possible. I want Ben to move away from Phil and I want to Callum to read Phil the riot act at some point.

    • @desireealexam
      @desireealexam 5 лет назад +3

      EXACTLY! He’s not angry or disappointed, Callum is now really sad and worried for Ben because he’s wondering what mess Ben has gotten himself into that he feels he can’t get out of and therefore has to hide from Callum. 🥺🥺

  • @DesBishop-b6x
    @DesBishop-b6x 5 лет назад +7

    hope they won't break up...

    • @theglowup9623
      @theglowup9623 5 лет назад +4

      they will sadly but not for long

    • @lauracostelloe4068
      @lauracostelloe4068 5 лет назад +3

      @@theglowup9623 Max Bowden has confirmed they are breaking up. Is it not for long? Cause I'm soo sad right now💔

    • @theglowup9623
      @theglowup9623 5 лет назад +3

      @@lauracostelloe4068 at most until the end of Feb once the sharon and keanu affair mess is sorted. The writter basically spoke about how they have issues to sort through and Callum needs to decide whether he can accept thar Ben will never fully change and be this good guy because that's not who he is

    • @theglowup9623
      @theglowup9623 5 лет назад +3

      But in her saying that shes implied they will get back together! Its just going to be painful to watch the break up tonight.

    • @lauracostelloe4068
      @lauracostelloe4068 5 лет назад +2

      @@theglowup9623 really? They'll be back together in February? X

  • @AC_RDR2_Q
    @AC_RDR2_Q 4 года назад +2

    Ben said the f slur but then I realised he’s gay lol however he isn’t in real life so hmm... wait nvm I’m gonna pretend he is gay in real life

  • @marcelnoonan8403
    @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +6

    That’s just great. First Emmerdale Rios our guys out when Robert goes down for life and the End to Rob Ron. Now it’s Ben and Callum. Gosh Gay couples never get to be happy.

    • @HattielyEverAfter1995
      @HattielyEverAfter1995 5 лет назад +1

      @Marcel Noonan Do ANY soap couples get to be happy? x

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +3

      Elizabeth Clarke Actually Yes. I’ve seen it from All My Children, One Life To Live, General Hospital, Emmerdale, Eastenders, Hollyoaks, and Coronation Street. All Heterosexual.

  • @thomashernandez4181
    @thomashernandez4181 5 лет назад +4

    What might Callum be offended by? "Poes"?

    • @thomashernandez4181
      @thomashernandez4181 5 лет назад +1

      Poem/film in New York?

    • @INTJ91
      @INTJ91 5 лет назад +6

      I think he was on about The Pogues, Fairytale of NY, and the line 'cheap lousy faggot'

    • @thomashernandez4181
      @thomashernandez4181 5 лет назад +1

      @@INTJ91 Thank you, I have to google that.

    • @thomashernandez4181
      @thomashernandez4181 5 лет назад +1

      Found video on RUclips. :)

  • @livlove7198
    @livlove7198 5 лет назад +4

    What show is this from

    • @fionax7456
      @fionax7456 5 лет назад +5

      Olivia Moore Eastenders, it’s a british soap on bbc 1

  • @simsimme1799
    @simsimme1799 4 года назад +2

    Tony Clay be lookin fine here 😍
    200th comment ❤️

  • @lauracostelloe4068
    @lauracostelloe4068 5 лет назад +7

    Dont want to upset ye..... but Max Bowden has confirmed Ben and Callum split💔

    • @UniMagik
      @UniMagik 5 лет назад +2

      Where?!

    • @lauracostelloe4068
      @lauracostelloe4068 5 лет назад +3

      @@UniMagik On eastenders spoilers

    • @KETTYKISH
      @KETTYKISH 5 лет назад +4

      Why do people put spoilers here!?!? At least warn people!

    • @lauracostelloe4068
      @lauracostelloe4068 5 лет назад +3

      @@KETTYKISH I'm sad too x just read the article .

    • @KETTYKISH
      @KETTYKISH 5 лет назад +1

      Laura Costelloe But some people don’t want to know in advance! So please warn people. 🙁

  • @MajorAlenko
    @MajorAlenko 5 лет назад +16

    They are perfect. But how long before Eastenders have enough and kill Callum off-screen for no reason.

  • @thomashernandez8700
    @thomashernandez8700 5 лет назад +1

    For the love of god-who's "Flaming Bill"?

  • @gillianwilson1330
    @gillianwilson1330 5 лет назад +4

    They broke up tonight

  • @thomashernandez4181
    @thomashernandez4181 5 лет назад +1

    What's "Flaming Bill"?

  • @angelahumble1884
    @angelahumble1884 5 лет назад +16

    They are so cute. I hope they dont break up all because of Phil I'm sick off Phil and ben should delete him out of his life. Ben's finally round happiness again with Callum and I can see all this going down drain if Phil carrys on being a bad father again! Callum keep hold of ben he needs you now more than ever! Ben come on open your eyes and fuck Phil of and live a happy life with Callun and Lexi ❤❤

    • @marcelnoonan8403
      @marcelnoonan8403 5 лет назад +3

      How Phil treated Ben after He and Paul Were brutally beaten. And Paul paid the for it with his life.

  • @azbreed
    @azbreed 5 лет назад +5

    I have watched this enough times to realize the show made a mistake. There is no blood on the back of Ben's shirt when he gets the beer from the fridge, but then it is there when he is on the couch with Callum.

    • @KETTYKISH
      @KETTYKISH 5 лет назад +4

      azbred There IS blood on the back of Ben’s shirt when he goes to the fridge. You see it for a nano second. Watch again.

  • @akayleaanderson7165
    @akayleaanderson7165 3 года назад

    Fuuguyyy

  • @fortniteproman6115
    @fortniteproman6115 5 лет назад +1

    Lol

  • @GinaSigillito
    @GinaSigillito 5 лет назад +2

    Ugh, poor boys. This scene is beautiful but terrible because now we know what's happened. May they be together soon.

  • @bigshreen2497
    @bigshreen2497 3 года назад

    To think jay threw away Lola for Honey hottest person for uggliest

    • @simsimme1799
      @simsimme1799 Год назад

      u do realise ur therefore commenting on the actress’ appearance

  • @xadam2dudex
    @xadam2dudex 5 лет назад +2

    So he wants to kill something and wants Ben to help him ?