Kudos to Tony Clay and Max Bowden. I feel like I'm spying on real life. These two actors have created a real love story, and it's beautiful. I wish all love stories felt this real.
Phil's ability to repeatedly destroy Ben's life is quite the talent. Imagine threatening your emotionally fragile , paternal love craving-child, with killing yourself, or having them help you kill someone else? Phil's always plumbing new depths.
My thoughts exactly. He is so unfair to Ben. Poor lad was just getting his happiness and then Phil's dramas come and ruin it. Ben needs to just forget about Phil.
Gina Sigillito I feel even more for Callum who is obviously in love with Ben. I don’t think I can take another break up of my fav couples. Already lost Robert on Emmerdale.
I don’t like what’s happening to Ben but on the plus side they give us AT LEAST one kiss from them every episode! Most gay couples in soaps go weeks without kissing, and only do it on special occasions!
Gaaaah this is heart breaking!!! The look on Ben's face at the end...you know he's worrying about it all and he wants to confide in Callum but doesn't want to taint him with all the hideous baggage. Seeing them snuggle together like that is so adorable! Please please writers don't rip this amazing couple apart when they're only really just beginning!!! Yes Ben has done some terrible terrible things but he's trying to be a better man, the person he was always supposed to be but hasn't been able to be because of his wretched father! Someone who is worthy of Callum. I really really hope Ben tells Callum about Sharon's baby, he might be able to help or offer some support. Callum, Lola, Jay and Lexi need to lead Ben away from all the toxicity (Phil, Sharon, Keanu) and be a proper family. But this is Eastenders we're talking about. I've still not fully recovered from Jack not getting his happy ending with Ronnie!!!
@@lauracostelloe4068 yes I have found out sadness I woke up and I have seen it😭😟 I don't regret saying that they was my favorite couple I hope they get back together
I can’t put into words how I feel about that end scene, like it was so soft and if there wasn’t more going on I would be the happiest. But knowing Ben is so conflicted atm bc of not wanting to let his dad down and that they’re probably going to have a temporary “break up” at Christmas 🤧
I hope Ben comes clean to Callum about the Daddy problem and chooses what he is building with Callum over Phil's problem because he's going to need his snuggle bunny when the truth comes out and his family get blown apart. 😭😭 Don't see a very merry Christmas for the Mitchell family.
I don't think thats going to happen tbh. Ben always keeps things to himself (goes back to his childhood - I think he always feels alone with his problems) and given that this involves his dad, it just complicates it further. He's just going to want Callum as far away from the fallout as possible, but even he tells him the truth, that won't happen. :(
itsonlysound I disagree. I think Callum will draw Ben out. I think Ben is going to have a difficult choice to make. Callum is not easily Intimidated. Ben will be conflicted. But I think Phil is going to force Ben to choose between His Dad and Callum. Just like Robert Put Aaron on the straight and narrow on Emmerdale.
To be fair to Ben he didn't lie to Callum, he did say his dad being difficult was part of the reason for his bad day. He just didn't go into details about what Phil was doing to be difficult. Ben did save Jack from being burnt to death.
@@meshandaellison Saaaaame. I only found Ballum on the first place because I was mourning over Robron and needed something to fill the void in my heart, haha. Can't lose them too.
Oooo I live for the angst. Sorry fluff lovers but I love the drama. There’ll be hurt and then there’ll be comfort. That scene between Ben and his dad was some incredible acting. Good job all involved.
As much as I would love for Ben to cut Phil out of his life for good, it's not gonna be that easy. As someone with a toxic father, I can safely say that familial loyalty is a powerful thing. Choosing to abandon them is extremely difficult. I sympathise greatly with Ben.
I hope when the truth comes out Ben can say his 'I told you so' about Golden Boy Keanu. And I hope Phil tries to treat Ben as his son as he should and Ben tells his to sling his hook!!
I get why some people find the Ben/Phil relationship frustrating but I find it incredibly realistic. Ben is a lot of things but Ben is loyal to a fault and Ben loves his dad. People who expect Ben to just cut off his relationship with Phil completely don't understand how hard it is to cut off toxic people in your life, especially if it's a parent and especially if it's a parent like Phil who is masterful at dangling just enough amount of love and attention to give Ben hope. People should be realistic with regards to how Ben is going to handle this, he cares and loves for Callum but his relationship with his dad is complicated and if Ben ends up having to choose, it's not going to be Callum he chooses unfortunately. As a lover of angst, personally I love it and I am really already super into the way they're handling this because it's so character-driven and it's not as simple as Ben is Bad and Callum is Good and Ben must choose between being a Bad Boy, etc. Instead it's far more complex than that and delves into the source of a lot of Ben's issues - his father.
Yes he does. But if that selfish bastard would think about Ben just once then I’d agree. Why should Ben sacrifice his life. Ben will either learn how and when to tell his Dad where to get off or he will lose every love interest. No spouse is going to take a backseat to their in-laws. Phil needs to learn When Ben is in a relationship HIS PARTNER COMES FIRST NOT DADDY.
Marcel Noonan this is the big conflict right now. Phil calling when Ben was in the middle of such an important conversation with Callum was serious foreshadowing. Ben will choose Callum but it will take a bit of eye opening.
hj I’m not saying it isn’t easy. I’m saying Phil is a selfish prick. And I know exactly how hard it is to get away from a loved one who is Toxic. When my Dad fell off the wagon I had to do the hardest thing I ever did. Divorce myself from him. How many times has Ben Been burned.
What a toxic father/son relationship. Phil, get it together and move on. Mate, you’ve cheated so many times. Let your son be happy for once. However, that is so me when someone ask if you would like Chinese food😊🤣😋
What a truly dreadful father phil is he should have done ben and us all a favour and had a nice big drink what a shame ben us dragged into his dads mess again shame about him and callum
Phil is just a horrible man and I hate the way he treats Ben, whenever Phil wants something from Ben, he has to pick on Ben's insecurities and manipulate him into doing his dirty work. He's honestly the worse parent ever, the way he treats Ben just makes me sick
You can see on Callum's face that Callum is slowly having second thoughts, especially when Ben totally lied straight to his face on what really happened!
Alice Zecevich Yes. But I don’t think it’s second thoughts (just now), but rather deep disappointment. But I think on some level Callum gets why Ben cannot let go of his past and I even think Ben here knows very well that Callum knows Ben lied to him.. Ben just cannot figure out how to get himself out of this situation. His dad has an immense hold on him and it’s toxic.
The emotional manipulating is horrible, what kind of parent makes their Child feel guilty for being happy??? When Ben was miserable for years did Phil feel bad about having happiness in his life, and as that isn't vile enough he actually tells him he will kill himself if Ben doesn't help him kill someone else, what kind of position is that put anyone in let alone your son😱Why does Ben have to risk what's good in his life because his fathers wife had an affair??? Phil can't stand to look like a mug but he has no problem being a murderer....???? Callum now knows that Ben is hiding things but he didn't look angry or disappointed , he looked sad 💔and worried for Ben💗
Merima-Gabriella Tropoja That’s what I saw. A lot of sadness in Callum’s eyes and he is worried about Ben for sure. Callum must know how hard a situation Ben is in because of Phil. I’m thinking maybe at some point, Callum should go talk to Phil and read him the riots. But really hard. And even if it’s not his job, maybe coming from an outsider it will somehow sober up Phil......
KETTYKISH this was what I wanted. Maybe it's still possible. I want Ben to move away from Phil and I want to Callum to read Phil the riot act at some point.
EXACTLY! He’s not angry or disappointed, Callum is now really sad and worried for Ben because he’s wondering what mess Ben has gotten himself into that he feels he can’t get out of and therefore has to hide from Callum. 🥺🥺
That’s just great. First Emmerdale Rios our guys out when Robert goes down for life and the End to Rob Ron. Now it’s Ben and Callum. Gosh Gay couples never get to be happy.
Elizabeth Clarke Actually Yes. I’ve seen it from All My Children, One Life To Live, General Hospital, Emmerdale, Eastenders, Hollyoaks, and Coronation Street. All Heterosexual.
@@lauracostelloe4068 at most until the end of Feb once the sharon and keanu affair mess is sorted. The writter basically spoke about how they have issues to sort through and Callum needs to decide whether he can accept thar Ben will never fully change and be this good guy because that's not who he is
They are so cute. I hope they dont break up all because of Phil I'm sick off Phil and ben should delete him out of his life. Ben's finally round happiness again with Callum and I can see all this going down drain if Phil carrys on being a bad father again! Callum keep hold of ben he needs you now more than ever! Ben come on open your eyes and fuck Phil of and live a happy life with Callun and Lexi ❤❤
I have watched this enough times to realize the show made a mistake. There is no blood on the back of Ben's shirt when he gets the beer from the fridge, but then it is there when he is on the couch with Callum.
Ben is literally me the way he shot up when Callum asked if he’d fancy a Chinese
me to
They’re so adorable 😍
Kudos to Tony Clay and Max Bowden. I feel like I'm spying on real life. These two actors have created a real love story, and it's beautiful. I wish all love stories felt this real.
kmgood Callum and max is Ben
Phil's ability to repeatedly destroy Ben's life is quite the talent. Imagine threatening your emotionally fragile , paternal love craving-child, with killing yourself, or having them help you kill someone else? Phil's always plumbing new depths.
My thoughts exactly. He is so unfair to Ben. Poor lad was just getting his happiness and then Phil's dramas come and ruin it. Ben needs to just forget about Phil.
You’re both right
Having a parent like this is the worst. I really feel for Ben right now.
itsonlysound And Ben’s about to lose the best thing that’s happened to him because of Phil.
Gina Sigillito I feel even more for Callum who is obviously in love with Ben. I don’t think I can take another break up of my fav couples. Already lost Robert on Emmerdale.
Ben just wants his father approval but Phil treats him like dirt
Tony Clay is so so beautiful when playing broody and sad.
KETTYKISH He's beautiful all the time
Hazel Simms Very true! ✨
Tony is gorgeous all the time no matter what! 😍😍
@kmgood yes, tony clay
Aww, bless Callum. That present is so adorable. Ben will love it.
Only just saw now after watching this clip 100 times that it has BM on it!
@@KETTYKISH Oh God, you're right! Oh, that's so cute. Callum is such a sweetheart.
@@KETTYKISH omg I just saw that! Never noticed before
Callum could not have picked a more cuter picture than that.
So gorgeous.
I don’t like what’s happening to Ben but on the plus side they give us AT LEAST one kiss from them every episode! Most gay couples in soaps go weeks without kissing, and only do it on special occasions!
Kate B. Cough! Robron cough!
Donald Samuels exactly who I was thinking of 😂
I like that Ben and Callum kiss but wish it was a bit more passionate.
@@juliaoliveira-rebic1850 after every storm comes a rainbow 🌈
Well we won’t be seeing any for the at least the next month.
The way he talks...he was in shock.
Why are they doing this to us- on Christmas!
Gaaaah this is heart breaking!!! The look on Ben's face at the end...you know he's worrying about it all and he wants to confide in Callum but doesn't want to taint him with all the hideous baggage. Seeing them snuggle together like that is so adorable! Please please writers don't rip this amazing couple apart when they're only really just beginning!!! Yes Ben has done some terrible terrible things but he's trying to be a better man, the person he was always supposed to be but hasn't been able to be because of his wretched father! Someone who is worthy of Callum. I really really hope Ben tells Callum about Sharon's baby, he might be able to help or offer some support. Callum, Lola, Jay and Lexi need to lead Ben away from all the toxicity (Phil, Sharon, Keanu) and be a proper family. But this is Eastenders we're talking about. I've still not fully recovered from Jack not getting his happy ending with Ronnie!!!
I love Ben and Callum they are so cute together one of my favorite couple on a TV show at this moment❤❤❤☺😍😍😍
Max Bowden has confirmed they're splitting up 💔
@@lauracostelloe4068 yes I have found out sadness I woke up and I have seen it😭😟 I don't regret saying that they was my favorite couple I hope they get back together
I can’t put into words how I feel about that end scene, like it was so soft and if there wasn’t more going on I would be the happiest. But knowing Ben is so conflicted atm bc of not wanting to let his dad down and that they’re probably going to have a temporary “break up” at Christmas 🤧
I hope Ben comes clean to Callum about the Daddy problem and chooses what he is building with Callum over Phil's problem because he's going to need his snuggle bunny when the truth comes out and his family get blown apart. 😭😭 Don't see a very merry Christmas for the Mitchell family.
Susan Clarke Snuggle bunny! 💖
@@KETTYKISH On this side of the Pond "cuddle bunny" is what we usually say. Remarkably close, though. :)
How the hell has Phil managed to stay alive for so long.
I don't think thats going to happen tbh. Ben always keeps things to himself (goes back to his childhood - I think he always feels alone with his problems) and given that this involves his dad, it just complicates it further. He's just going to want Callum as far away from the fallout as possible, but even he tells him the truth, that won't happen. :(
itsonlysound I disagree. I think Callum will draw Ben out. I think Ben is going to have a difficult choice to make. Callum is not easily Intimidated. Ben will be conflicted. But I think Phil is going to force Ben to choose between His Dad and Callum. Just like Robert Put Aaron on the straight and narrow on Emmerdale.
Beautiful present. So worried about what's going to happen next though 😭
I think everyone can relate to Ben when asked if they want a Chinese.
yep
Ben: “Now we’re talkin’! You know me so well.”
Callum: *brooding, thinking* Well apparently I don’t! 🥺
😭
To be fair to Ben he didn't lie to Callum, he did say his dad being difficult was part of the reason for his bad day. He just didn't go into details about what Phil was doing to be difficult. Ben did save Jack from being burnt to death.
They're going to be fine but strap in for the angst over the next few days.
I think its gonna lead to the I love you phase this angst
Meshanda Ellison exactly.
An 'I love you' at the end of the inevitable angst fest would make the pain worth it.
@@gabybladen5803 right...need them to be okay...cause Robron broke me
@@meshandaellison Saaaaame. I only found Ballum on the first place because I was mourning over Robron and needed something to fill the void in my heart, haha. Can't lose them too.
Oooo I live for the angst. Sorry fluff lovers but I love the drama. There’ll be hurt and then there’ll be comfort. That scene between Ben and his dad was some incredible acting. Good job all involved.
Oh my gosh Phil sucks! He such a bad dad
4:29 ben's hand rubbing Callum's leg
callum face, hes so sad :\
Ben is such a complex character, he can be such a cutie pie sometimes...
the way they act feels so real..
sometimes I accaully think there dating because the way they act
As much as I would love for Ben to cut Phil out of his life for good, it's not gonna be that easy. As someone with a toxic father, I can safely say that familial loyalty is a powerful thing. Choosing to abandon them is extremely difficult. I sympathise greatly with Ben.
Maybe Phil’s liber. Will explode in his face first.
Liver* Sorry
Same here. People think it's so easy but it's not.
Gaby Bladen I To have a Toxic Father. And I have been able to limit my interaction. But have not been able to cut him out completely.
So happy for them and jealous!!! Singh !!
3:54 on. Sorry I cannot say enough, those two make ....
The way bens fear of Phil drinking again terrifies him
I need a callum in my life
I hope when the truth comes out Ben can say his 'I told you so' about Golden Boy Keanu. And I hope Phil tries to treat Ben as his son as he should and Ben tells his to sling his hook!!
What does "sling his hook" mean? American here. Thanks. :)
@@thomashernandez4181 It basically means Ben to tell Phil to beat it, get lost, f off! lol! 🤣
Why does Phill want to beat Keanu up?
This is what I'm hoping for.
@@rpv3378 because keanu cheated on Louise(phils daughter) with Sharon who is phils wife
“Honey made a doubtful contribution to the cheese-making”
What the hell are they watching? 😂04:48
I get why some people find the Ben/Phil relationship frustrating but I find it incredibly realistic. Ben is a lot of things but Ben is loyal to a fault and Ben loves his dad. People who expect Ben to just cut off his relationship with Phil completely don't understand how hard it is to cut off toxic people in your life, especially if it's a parent and especially if it's a parent like Phil who is masterful at dangling just enough amount of love and attention to give Ben hope. People should be realistic with regards to how Ben is going to handle this, he cares and loves for Callum but his relationship with his dad is complicated and if Ben ends up having to choose, it's not going to be Callum he chooses unfortunately. As a lover of angst, personally I love it and I am really already super into the way they're handling this because it's so character-driven and it's not as simple as Ben is Bad and Callum is Good and Ben must choose between being a Bad Boy, etc. Instead it's far more complex than that and delves into the source of a lot of Ben's issues - his father.
hj bingo. If you have a father like this, you know what it's like.
Yes he does. But if that selfish bastard would think about Ben just once then I’d agree. Why should Ben sacrifice his life. Ben will either learn how and when to tell his Dad where to get off or he will lose every love interest. No spouse is going to take a backseat to their in-laws. Phil needs to learn When Ben is in a relationship HIS PARTNER COMES FIRST NOT DADDY.
Marcel Noonan this is the big conflict right now. Phil calling when Ben was in the middle of such an important conversation with Callum was serious foreshadowing. Ben will choose Callum but it will take a bit of eye opening.
Gina Sigillito How So?
hj I’m not saying it isn’t easy. I’m saying Phil is a selfish prick. And I know exactly how hard it is to get away from a loved one who is Toxic. When my Dad fell off the wagon I had to do the hardest thing I ever did. Divorce myself from him. How many times has Ben Been burned.
at the end callum was about to kiss him agian on the head but realised it wasnt probably scripted
Who agrees with me Tony Clay looks like Ben Platt
What a toxic father/son relationship.
Phil, get it together and move on. Mate, you’ve cheated so many times.
Let your son be happy for once.
However, that is so me when someone ask if you would like Chinese food😊🤣😋
Anyone else notice. When ben got a drink out of the fridge there was no blood on his shirt. But when he sits down there is then blood on his shirt.
@@juliaoliveira-rebic1850 glad I'm not the only one that notices it
What a truly dreadful father phil is he should have done ben and us all a favour and had a nice big drink what a shame ben us dragged into his dads mess again shame about him and callum
Phil is just a horrible man and I hate the way he treats Ben, whenever Phil wants something from Ben, he has to pick on Ben's insecurities and manipulate him into doing his dirty work. He's honestly the worse parent ever, the way he treats Ben just makes me sick
You can see on Callum's face that Callum is slowly having second thoughts, especially when Ben totally lied straight to his face on what really happened!
Alice Zecevich Yes. But I don’t think it’s second thoughts (just now), but rather deep disappointment. But I think on some level Callum gets why Ben cannot let go of his past and I even think Ben here knows very well that Callum knows Ben lied to him.. Ben just cannot figure out how to get himself out of this situation. His dad has an immense hold on him and it’s toxic.
KETTYKISH I think Callum is going to risk losing Ben by telling Phil where to go.
Kettyfish I think Callum is too smart to do that, I think Callum might tell phil some home truth's on what he's doing to Ben!🤔🤔🤔
Thank you for these! I'm in the US and dont get this here :)
The emotional manipulating is horrible, what kind of parent makes their Child feel guilty for being happy??? When Ben was miserable for years did Phil feel bad about having happiness in his life, and as that isn't vile enough he actually tells him he will kill himself if Ben doesn't help him kill someone else, what kind of position is that put anyone in let alone your son😱Why does Ben have to risk what's good in his life because his fathers wife had an affair??? Phil can't stand to look like a mug but he has no problem being a murderer....????
Callum now knows that Ben is hiding things but he didn't look angry or disappointed , he looked sad 💔and worried for Ben💗
Merima-Gabriella Tropoja That’s what I saw. A lot of sadness in Callum’s eyes and he is worried about Ben for sure. Callum must know how hard a situation Ben is in because of Phil. I’m thinking maybe at some point, Callum should go talk to Phil and read him the riots. But really hard. And even if it’s not his job, maybe coming from an outsider it will somehow sober up Phil......
KETTYKISH this was what I wanted. Maybe it's still possible. I want Ben to move away from Phil and I want to Callum to read Phil the riot act at some point.
EXACTLY! He’s not angry or disappointed, Callum is now really sad and worried for Ben because he’s wondering what mess Ben has gotten himself into that he feels he can’t get out of and therefore has to hide from Callum. 🥺🥺
That’s just great. First Emmerdale Rios our guys out when Robert goes down for life and the End to Rob Ron. Now it’s Ben and Callum. Gosh Gay couples never get to be happy.
@Marcel Noonan Do ANY soap couples get to be happy? x
Elizabeth Clarke Actually Yes. I’ve seen it from All My Children, One Life To Live, General Hospital, Emmerdale, Eastenders, Hollyoaks, and Coronation Street. All Heterosexual.
How did jacks blood got on his shirt if he was wearing his jacket all the time, helping Jack home aswell?
Shannon logo
Are you a copper? Lol
hope they won't break up...
they will sadly but not for long
@@theglowup9623 Max Bowden has confirmed they are breaking up. Is it not for long? Cause I'm soo sad right now💔
@@lauracostelloe4068 at most until the end of Feb once the sharon and keanu affair mess is sorted. The writter basically spoke about how they have issues to sort through and Callum needs to decide whether he can accept thar Ben will never fully change and be this good guy because that's not who he is
But in her saying that shes implied they will get back together! Its just going to be painful to watch the break up tonight.
@@theglowup9623 really? They'll be back together in February? X
Ben said the f slur but then I realised he’s gay lol however he isn’t in real life so hmm... wait nvm I’m gonna pretend he is gay in real life
What might Callum be offended by? "Poes"?
Poem/film in New York?
I think he was on about The Pogues, Fairytale of NY, and the line 'cheap lousy faggot'
@@INTJ91 Thank you, I have to google that.
Found video on RUclips. :)
They are perfect. But how long before Eastenders have enough and kill Callum off-screen for no reason.
OMG BITE YOUR TONGUE.
They broke up tonight
Tony Clay be lookin fine here 😍
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They are so cute. I hope they dont break up all because of Phil I'm sick off Phil and ben should delete him out of his life. Ben's finally round happiness again with Callum and I can see all this going down drain if Phil carrys on being a bad father again! Callum keep hold of ben he needs you now more than ever! Ben come on open your eyes and fuck Phil of and live a happy life with Callun and Lexi ❤❤
How Phil treated Ben after He and Paul Were brutally beaten. And Paul paid the for it with his life.
So he wants to kill something and wants Ben to help him ?
For the love of god-who's "Flaming Bill"?
Dont want to upset ye..... but Max Bowden has confirmed Ben and Callum split💔
Where?!
@@UniMagik On eastenders spoilers
Why do people put spoilers here!?!? At least warn people!
@@KETTYKISH I'm sad too x just read the article .
Laura Costelloe But some people don’t want to know in advance! So please warn people. 🙁
I have watched this enough times to realize the show made a mistake. There is no blood on the back of Ben's shirt when he gets the beer from the fridge, but then it is there when he is on the couch with Callum.
azbred There IS blood on the back of Ben’s shirt when he goes to the fridge. You see it for a nano second. Watch again.
Fuuguyyy
What show is this from
Olivia Moore Eastenders, it’s a british soap on bbc 1
Lol
What's "Flaming Bill"?
U mean Ian flaming beale
Ugh, poor boys. This scene is beautiful but terrible because now we know what's happened. May they be together soon.
To think jay threw away Lola for Honey hottest person for uggliest
u do realise ur therefore commenting on the actress’ appearance