Meet the NEW WOLFDOG - Is he too dangerous or just mistreated? (And what happened to Lorne!)
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So Lorne got kicked out because he was too much- you put him in a sanctuary. A fucking sanctuary? Are you serious? People like you are the reason wolfdogs get a bad name- people get them and drop them off when they get to be too much. If the friends were the issue then why kick out an animal who has been with you for YEARS? Then just to get another wolfdog with bite history? You’re despicable.
No he was not too much. My friends needed a place to stay that year and I was not going to have them live with a wolf and get hurt or possibly killed. Period. Sorry my human friends had to come first. Lorne is perfectly healthy and happy. I could get him back now that they are gone, but for what reason? To upset him and take him away from his stable pack?
Stop thinking about you and try thinking about the animal.
You are clearly a selfish person and are humanizing animals. Caring for animals is about what is best for them and I can promise you that Lorne is not longing for me in some romantic bullshit way right now. I can guarantee you that.
The thing I am wondering is why you are getting so riled up over your own possible feelings toward losing an animal you never had in the first place?
Where is the actual wolf in this picture? Wherever you feel most content, I guess.
Sorry but I don't get it and I doubt you'll bother to respond.
If your human friends are always going to come first then why even have the animals? They didn’t know how to live with Lorne and there was absolutely no way to teach them or give them boundaries to co-exist together? You obviously don’t seem to get that ripping him away from his pack now is similar to you passing him off to a sanctuary. You raised him from a pup- you were the “constant” in his life. I highly doubt being in a new environment without something he was familiar with made him 100% comfortable at first. Then you get an unverified wolfdog with a bite history. What’s gonna happen to this one when you have friends that need a place to crash? You don’t seem to understand the negative impact you’re making on wolfdogs as a whole and yes I’m disgusted by it. I will not apologize for not giving up on my animals when shit hits the fan when I made the decision to take them in, in the first place. Do I think Lorne is better off in a sanctuary? YES! Do I think you should continue working with wolfdogs? NO!
Also I’m riled up even though I didn’t own Lorne, because YOUR DECISIONS DO EFFECT OTHER WOLFDOG OWNERS. Your teaching effect us! Your videos- good or bad- EFFECT ALL OF US!
All it takes is one owner to mess up and BAM! Statewide ban! Why take on a wolfdog with bite history if you couldn’t take on Lorne when things got tough?
Have you ever heard of fostering an animal?? You are like the friend that lives rent free for 5 years then flips out when you get asked to find your own place. No good deed goes unpunished.
She took lorne and gave him a great place to stay, but you think thats worse than doing nothing??? Im so confused
I wonder how long the friends stayed over? must have been years to warrant getting rid of the mutt
I can't understand this anymore. You had to get rid of one wolfdog but now you got another one? Also claiming a bulldog mutt to be a pitbull is really lame.
Actually Lorne is a real Wolf or a Yukon Wolf
@@paulmikkeltaka102 lol He's a mid high content wolfdog.
@@opheliapurple oh now that's embarrassing
mhm
You got rid of Lorne for getting too aggressive but you took this wolfdog that apparently has a biting problem?
No it’s tamed😊
I am so disappointed in you. I thought you would be "one of the good ones" and not take on an animal you were unprepared to give a lifetime of care to. Instead you have shown yourself to be another selfish person who over burdens animal rescues and sanctuaries. unsubscribed
You...do realize that situations out of one's control can and do happen, right? Even the most prepared of people aren't psychics and can't predict the entire future for animals in their care.
@@WolfDragonPlasma it's almost like, if that's the case then owning exotic animals and unnatural hybrids as pets should be illegal
@@grittysurrealism And if that's the case, owning any sort of pet should be illegal, exotic or otherwise. It doesn't change the fact that people can't predict every waking moment of the animal's future. Stuff happens; that's just a fact of life.
She literally said that it was her FRIENDS that couldn't handle Lorne, not her.
As in, her friends moved in (and we don't know for what reason, so let's reserve judgement before we get a definitive answer there) and because Lorne is a wild animal, they didn't have the experience to deal with him properly and didn't feel safe, so she didn't have any choice but to send him away.
Upon further investigation, she was charged with animal cruelty and neglect, so it seems that a lot of the fears presented in this comment section were valid. She's taken down her website, deleted her facebook and even changed name legally.
That being said, I still stand by there being overreactions in certain areas. From my completely novice perspective, I still think that if a friend has no choice but to stay with you and you have a dangerous wild animal, you should probably make sure the animal is off the property and a lot of people didn't seem to realise that Lorna was more or less a pure wolf and not a wolfdog. I think that if valid accusations are going to levied against someone, it's important to get the facts straight. I acknowledge that maybe there was later evidence revealed about Lorne being a wolfdog and not a wolf that I'm not aware of, but if that is the case, I think some of the people commenting here need to specify that in the event that someone reads their comments and dismisses anything valid they have to say on the basis of a commonly held misconception. We don't people continuing to defend this woman, it's best to get all the facts straight about her and her animals.
Speaking for myself, when I left my previous comment, I was mainly going off what was presented in this video. I only found out about animal cruelty when I switched to looking at the most recent comments left. I am not an avid follower of this woman by any means and only watched a few wolf videos before realizing that she had stopped posting them after a little while, so I was curious about what happened. To me (someone with no real expertise in the field of owning wolves or any exotic animal) it seemed more than reasonable for someone to move their animal to a sanctuary if they have friends that needed to stay with them for an extended period of time (about a year, I believe). I didn't have proper context, which led me to give much more of the benefit of the doubt than I otherwise would have, as I try not to join the mob against someone without sufficient evidence to warrant it, which I have now discovered there is. Indeed, what I perceived to be an unusually high amount of negativity in this comment section did lead me to investigate further and finding the truth, so let it never be said that harsh criticism never gets postive results.
I've opted to leave this comment as opposed to deleting my last one because I don't really see any point hiding that I made a mistake. I'd rather this be a learning moment rather than a hiding moment. I'm human and make mistakes, and I honestly have more respect for people who do own up to that, rather than panicking and deleting the evidence.
Just curious what makes you qualified to take care of a wolf dog
Nothing. Last she spoke publically about her education it was studying to become a grade school teacher. She buys and adopts animals like any other person, which is why it's so confusing to me that she gets so many donations. Could you imagine any other exotic pet channel asking for free food?
@@opheliapurple free food and free money. When she hit hard times two years ago and offered behavior consultations I know at least 5 people including myself offering her work via Skype. She refused, made another video on how hard up for money she was and started a go fund me instead. Animals disappear, people come first, but she was borderline suicidal after one animal got hurt but hey look! A new animal that's gonna end up dead too. That poor Dobe has been severally hurt many times when is enough enough?
Literally nothing apparently. If you’re looking to get one I hope you own a lot of land because if you cage a wolfdog outside of transportation to places like the vet you are 100% abusing that animal
Sub you won’t lmfao what????
she doesn't have any qualifications >:(
I’m so glad this channel creator was exposed for her animal abuse and negligence 💕🥰
hold up what happened??
@@sandra101705 This video sums it up: ruclips.net/video/VCKAcwBiQyE/видео.html
@@sandra101705 she was keeping a wolf with her dog and the dog was super scared and the comments were telling her and she didn’t give a fuck, such an horrible person.
So am I. Took long enough though.
@@tahoehiker she starved a horse in 2019 and her whole place got shut down
You have no business having these animals.
Yes she does
@@Pattycake_Cake13 she was done for animal abuse, so no she doesn’t
She just looooves throwing rocks.
Especially at her wild, dangerous and what seems to be unstable animals
@@SaraSuba1 how else is she going to get those wolf attack video views? If she trained them and interacted with them more than twice a week she might accidentally make a well-behaved pet out of him, and nobody wants to see that!
You and Nicole Taylor Dean are like wolf in sheep’s clothing. It’s hard to trust anyone who wants to care for animals
Please stop getting wolfdogs, just stick to normal dogs. Clearly you dont know how to handle them. You already got rid of one wolf dog because YOU do not know how to control them. It was not Lornes fault that your friends felt unsafe, it is your fault because you dont know how to treat a wolfdog, or take leadership over one. Buttermilk was scared and did not know how to react because his energy was so high, and all you did was laugh at the situation. You dont know the body language of the fullt domesticated dog you already have, so I suggest you educate yourself on simple dog behavior instead of jumping right into getting a fucking wolfdog. Dont get any more wolfdogs, and give Bear to a proper, educated owner instead of being selfish. You cannot handle a wolfdog at all, especially one with a BITE HISTORY and dog aggression. You had to get rid of your first wolfdog with no bite history, so why the fuck do you think you could handle one with a bite history?? You are giving wolfdog owners bad a bad rep, just stop getting wolfdogs period.
for reeeal!!
This dog is not a wolfdog. It's a black gsd. Look at the slope of the legs and behaving like a dog. This dog have zero wolfness in it.
Loll Lorne did bite her.. he almost killed her. I'm 100% sure that's the real reason why she gave him away. Youre right. She def can not handle a wolf dog..
I'm glad that so many people have figured that out about her now. She has these animals for views and her "expertise" is just narcissistic delusions.
@@nickfoxx9310 yeah this bitch is dumb
I stopped seriously following you (and respecting you) after I found out what happened to Pancake. I was only subscribed so I could eye the video titles for mention of Lorne. I hope he has a more structured, supervised life with professionals now. You made the right choice even if a thousand shitty ones lead to it. Bye.
@Mayo Lane Pancake was her most famous pet (excluding the camels that got her on animal planet), he was a super cute cat and won a pet video contest for a lot of money. She suddenly stopped including him in videos for a year before finally admitting that an abusive ex (then girlfriend) had been hurting and killing animals and this included Pancake.
You can find the video on her channel from about two years ago.
She already was pretty skeevy with the whole claiming to be a trained animal professional and accepting/requesting donations when she's just an exotic pet owner- but preaching about education and helping animals while CONTINUING to buy more and more pets KNOWING they're in danger of being maliciously killed is absolutely selfish and repulsive in my opinion.
@@opheliapurple so, shes responsible for everything her ex did? Geez, didn't realize being in a relationship, and an abusive one at that, made you a goddamn mind controller
@@kitsunerose9545 That is the weakest defense I've ever heard. Because it's not directly you harming animals it's okay to knowingly place new and preexisting animals in dangerous conditions? Maybe the first time her ex killed an animal in cold blood without remorse she shouldn't have gone out and bought another one?? And another? And another? You don't need to be a mind controller to not enable the killing of your own pets.
@@kitsunerose9545 Ok you're dumb. Ok so no shes dumb to. So shes gonna date TWO people that shes gonna let into her life that kill and hurt animals? Its her fault. I honestly just no.
@@opheliapurple Was Pancake really killed??? Such a sweet cat! The first one who dares to hurt one of my cats, won't be able to leave my house on his/her feet.
She is giving me real joe exotic vibes.
At least Joe didn't kick buckets and throw rocks at his tiger while it was eating and claim it attacked because "an ant bit him"
@@hyenaloaf1858 video? Link?
@@MEDDUSAA can't post links on this computer but it's her own video titled "Girl Survives Wolf Attack - Could YOU remain this calm? (CAUGHT ON CAMERA)"
Yep, I am still disgusted.
Shame.
I think Lorne became too much to care for so she "ENDED IT" then went and got another wolf dog hoping he's lower content wolf
This person has long history of animal abuse and animal hoarding. She was penalize for animal abise
its not even guaranteed this new "wolfdog" is any part wolf at all (analysis by user Laskodog11)
That actually aint even a wolf dog :D That is a German Shepherd
She just pled guilty to five counts of animal cruelty and neglect and was placed on probation- meaning she can't own potentially dangerous pets. She's getting rid of most of them allegedly, but it would be pretty funny if she kept this dog. Because then it's definitely a dog.
Ophelia Brock we should just let her think it’s a wolf dog so she won’t actually try to get a REAL one. This woman is crazy lmaoooooo
Ophelia Brock she did? Thank god. I watched a previous video of hers where she introduced the wolf dog to a small dog and it completely disgusted me- I reported the video for animal abuse but that’s fantastic to hear
Source of information please?
yep. its a gsd, i have one. the white patch on his chest is a common black gsd marking . also the trot and square muzzle. the ear shape and backline are 100% working line gsd.
That’s probably not a wolfdog.. or if it is, it’s extremely low content. The eyes lack that teardrop lineage wolves have. ( most low content wolfdogs have it too. ) The bark at 1:17 sounds so shepherd-like. Also, even for a low content, the breed resembles no more than a black German Shepherd. Look at the face shape, and ears. Especially the stubby legs, tail, and thighs. ( Shepherds’ back legs are a huge giveaway. ) The muzzle also has the same anatomy as a German Shepherd. If it was given to you by people who couldn’t handle it, it’s likely that it’s just a dog. This youtuber also has a history of lying to everyone, ( Lorne was a gift from family according to her earlier vids... Later she said he was from a zoo. ) so it wouldn’t be a shock of she’s pretending this is a hybrid.
I'm german and we have a lot GSD in our country, short-hair, long-hair, from normal coat to white or black. This is a plain full black coat GSD. The biggest giveaway is, as you say, the ears (way too big for a wolf or a wolf-hybrid) and the you said the legs but in I think what you mean is the hips. GSD have a rounded down hip at the lower back that has been their main health issue due to overbreeding, generally yes their legs are also more "bent" or round you could say, as a wolf has their joints far higher up (used for long trotting).
As said, this is a plain black German Shepederg and nothing more...
@@CarinaKeKz Yes, that is what I meant to imply with the hips and legs, which you explained perfectly. It almost looks like it’s a husky GSD mix after a second watch. ( minute 0:50 ) The posture, cheek fur, and size of the dog resembles a husky. But of course the rest of the anatomy is all shepherd.
@@CarinaKeKz ( To add, the way the tail moves around 2:52 is very husky-mix like. )
@@CarinaKeKz The legs overall seem too thick for a wolfdog/wolf, wolves have long thin legs made for running and this dog has just regular GSD legs, and as you said the hip area is especially big
Just from the big spoon tongue i could tell this was a german shepard breed. Maybe a little husky mixed in to explain the fluffy fur.
H & K did a video on this video. He has a wolf And a dog. Both are very good boys and I mean that.
Wow, so you purposely raise a wolfdog like it's wild and get shocked when it's "too much" for you, and end up sending him off to other people after years?!
That poor creature... i cant believe you'd abandon him like that. But really, what did you expect when you have the mindset that all wolfdogs are nothing but wild beasts :/
Spread the word. Another taylor nicole dean
How has no one exposed her yet honestly
@@opheliapurple Make a vid exposing her!
@@Yeaidothat Sometimes I really think about it...I try to find as much as I can to keep tabs on her animals but it's really hard when they just vanish. Her latest neglect bust might finally be it though! I really hope we get a follow up on that, especially since she was missing last time the story updated. Anything would do- even on an individual animal like Crisis.
@@opheliapurple OMG I HAVE ANGER ISSUES AND AN ANIMAL LOVER. But I do very much agree I'm not very old but I really am weird.
No, you never posted about what happened to Lorne. The only reason I stayed subscribed was to find out, but you never said anything whatsoever. From what you're saying here, it sounds to me like you basically blame Lorne for being a wolf, then sent him to *_"live on a farm"_* in an undisclosed location.
Seriously, I pray for that other wolfdog.
I've been busy and I'm really under no obligation to say anything to anyone. I train and raise a lot of different animals and I don't have to keep them all at all times. He was raised right and is healthy and adjusted. I fail to see any kind of problem.
@@camelsandfriends - Both dogs and wolves have behavior closer to humans, and you know it. You were both his mother, and the alpha of his pack, and you abandoned him.
I do not agree by any means that wolves and dogs have a behavior 'closer' to humans. Closer than what? Domesticated dogs of course mimic a lot of human characteristics and have evolved to read our social cues, adjust to our moods and respond to unnatural commands. Wolves on the other hand are something complete and separate from anything human.
Alpha theory is outdated. It has been disproven. I do not think Lorne considered me his mother, as he was bottle raised by another care taker at the North Georgia zoo.
He does not think of himself as abandoned. Abandonment is a human affliction and does not belong in the animal kingdom. Lorne is not a dog. He is happy. You are unhappy at the emotional impact of his loss on your life-- and you do not even own him. Trust me, he does not care.
How a loving person like you cannot see this, I just do not understand. Lorne is a god damn wolf. He is fine. Wolves really do not need their mothers with them their entire life and they certainly do not need humans.
@@camelsandfriends - No, alpha theory is not disproven. You've been watching too much bullshit from Adam Conover.
And abandonment applying only to humans? You're joking, right? Surely you've been inside an animal shelter before.
Whatever. Rationalize it all you like. Project all you like. Just don't ruin another poor wolf's life.
@Narancia Ghirga - I'm really starting to think that this woman is just as evil as her ex-gilfriend who murdered her cat.
Gets rid of wolfdog because it attacked her with the excuse that her friends are coming to live with her, citing their safety...then gets another wolfdog who has shown to be aggressive before...lmao, the mental gymnastics. She'll never own up to being a shitty owner, just spew out sanctimonious excuses.
He looks incredibly low content wolf
incredebly low content...NO CONTENT!!!! BRING BACK LORNE!! FAACK OFF!!(to much naaah fuck you)
high-mid content = 'the closest thing you can get to pure wolf without trapping one in the wild'.
So low-content = mid seems pretty on point for her.
What she has is a low. Not high or mid high. like Lorne. He hopefully is better off. She's not qualified as a canine Behaviorist or even a skilled amateur in that field for it takes many years fir that qualification. We wolfdog owners who know exactly what we are talking about have studied wolf behavior or went to a sanctuary to understand them.
Barnett I hope you have a big space like this sanctuary then and not a dog crate like this content creator does
It's a fucking black German Shepherd. It's big but it behaves and looks like a domesticated dog.
She’s oblivious gullible. That’s no wolfdog at all. Every head size, shape, ears and everything else is the same as a German shepherd. The way the body is built and including the height, that’s oblivious not a wolfdog. Anybody with knowledge about wolves would clearly say that there’s absolutely no wolf in him. Plus wolfdog shouldn’t be own. But if you do, please be knowledgeable and not like this RUclipsd here
Don’t claim to be a breed advocate and you have no knowledge
“what led up to [the attack]”
yea uh you pissing him off, throwing rocks, and kicking a plastic container towards him WHILE EATING. common sense isn’t so common
I was asking what happened to lorne for a long time now
We will never know. He's probably been put to sleep for attacking her, no fault of his own. RIP Lorne.
Because this woman is a dumbass. That's why.
@@CoolNinja925 yea starting to hear a lot of bad things about this lady. And the thing is I actually want to be an animal carer for wild injured animals like wolves.
To me he looks more like a husky x black shepherd type dog. Maybe some wolf dog thrown in there somewhere but he looks very husky shepherd mix like.
Were Sugartree and Baladi ever found? I went to check your Facebook page and see it’s no longer there.
It is a calupoh a breed of wolfdog
@Narancia Ghirga not it is not it is a calupoh
@Narancia Ghirga She literally has not done anything and switching animals around is not wrong unless you know why but you do not.
@Narancia Ghirga She could own a caluph as it is a breed of dog.
@Narancia Ghirga It may be a gsd calupoh mix but there are calupoh I heard that are very gsd looking cause less content
She just plead guilty to animal cruelty charges.
I wonder how you people feel, supporting an animal abuser and defending her blindly.
dang, source?
deadly nightshade www.gvnews.com/news/pima-county-woman-placed-on-probation-in-animal-cruelty-case/article_9217b366-ea11-11e9-a5ef-b739f138f0a6.html
For Fucks Sake I can’t see it because I’m in the U.K. what were the charges ?
dragoon650 " Julius Robert Oppenheimer, who is also known as Alex Warnock, was placed on one year of unsupervised probation and ordered to pay a $300 fine after pleading guilty to two counts of cruelty to animals and one count each of failure to provide an animal with potable water, failure to provide medical attention and cruel neglect or abandonment.
Oppenheimer, who was featured on the Animal Planet channel in 2013, has been investigated twice this year on suspicion of animal neglect. In February, two camels escaped from her property west of Sahuarita twice within a week.
The charges she pleaded guilty to Friday were filed after authorities seized an emaciated horse from her property after neighbors reported Oppenheimer had not been seen for a few days and her animals had no water.
Last month Pima County Sheriff’s Detective Ted Noon said the seized horse was "making excellent progress" and Oppenheimer has found homes for her other animals.
Oppenheimer legally changed her name in January from Alexander Dirac Robert Warnock to Julius Robert Oppenheimer."
deadly nightshade omg that’s so bad! I had no idea :(
i dont wanna set foot on this channel ever again
So im back (2020) and im sorry for my aggression and my hate comment i was just letting out my opinion
Lol I'm back and find it funny how all of her previous dogs are gone... I feel like shes not taking that great of care of her animals as she shows
It's my first time here on this channel. First day here and I'm already aware of her animal negligence.
Great Video, have an enjoyable evening you.
you to faack off
He is same like German Shepherd . Can this black color dog will survive desert temperature?
Right, with no water. His tongue is hanging out. And he looks stressed. :::facepalm:::
To the casual eye, he could pass for one of those all-black German Shepherds that are becoming more popular.
I think she's not being honest. This is a German Sheppard.
Imagine raising an animal for years creating a very strong bond and then just replacing it the second the animal bites without trying to figure out why the animal is biting you do know that there are people who in a way I'd say are "therapists" for animals no dog bites without a reason Lady
Wow!! we have huge wolves too !! 😊❤🐺👍
After Lorne attacked her and the dogs I haven't seen him anymore
She supposedly gave him to a sanctuary, but she refuses to say what sanctuary, even to the breeder whose operation she ruined by turning Lorne into a ticking time bomb and saying it was all genetics. She had a contract that said she was supposed to return him to the breeder if she couldn't keep him anymore.
So basically, either she sold him off or killed him. Judging by her history, I'm betting he's in a shallow hole somewhere in her pasture...
Rip LORNE
He looks fairly low content, mannerisms and appearance strikingly similar to a German Shepherd. His gait and tail carry is also noticeably different from a high or full content wolf.
I owned a low content shepherd wolf dog. Or well coexisted with
He was 180lbs at 10m
The dogs she gets are mixes she claims are wolves and pass them off as such and rehomes them after they attack her for her mistreatment
That's unfortunate about Lorne. Have you thought about having this guy Embark tested to find out if/any wolf content he has? There is a lot of misrepresentation, and it could be dangerous for him!
Yeah, this guy just looks like a GSD to me. Maybe low content wolfdog?
i used to have one black color just this one but he died because of old age. we missed him dearly. he protecrmted us always while leashing him to poo ourside
his back end looks a bit like a GSD with the sloping back
Looks like a low-content wolfdog and a good mix with German Shepherd dog.
Dude, im sorry she's lying. It's a purebred german shepherd dog.
Why do you keep bringing dogs in that could hurt your other animals? I think it is really unfair to all the other animals. You already stated he attacked other dogs and people.
Because I rescue and rehabilitate aggressive animals. Especially wild ones. It is literally what I do and what this channel is about.
"Camels and Friends is dedicated to the education of intolerance or otherwise misunderstood animals..."
camelsandfriends well- stop- cuz you’re one of the worst owners I’ve seen. Wouldn’t wish any animal on you
@@subyouwont dude seriouslyyyy. I stopped watching when she gave lorne away. She "claims" to be a good animal owner. Literally all of her pets die so quick under her watch. RIP pancake, chompy, buttermilk, sugartee, and her 3 other dogs I forgot their names, they were my favorites to watch
camelsandfriends for gods sake you are a horrible pet owner! I’m 15 and I know the difference between an irresponsible and uninformed owner and someone who is Licensed and qualified for actually rehabilitating animals. You are clearly so one wanting to look good an professional but you are really irresponsible and stuck up. Stop it, what you are doing is abuse not rescue and rehabilitation
Gyro Zeppeli I definitely will, I have a channel and I’m definitely going to post a video about her, I’m so SO ANGRY!!! UGH!!! I JUST CANT!!!!
Awesome
do you ever go to the sanctuary to visit lorne? i'm sure he must have bonded with you in some capacity, so it'd break his heart to not have you visiting him. it sucks that we won't be seeing him anymore, but i hope he'll be happy there
I miss lorne
So you actually learned how to train a fucking dog but instead you put Lorne in a SANCTUARY instead of, you know, TRAINING HIM!
I'm probably remembering wrong, but wasn't Lorne like, an education animal?
If so I can see why there might be some backlash, but I also some backlash with how the video can come off.
Basically it can come off as, Lorne is gone due to difficulties, but hey look, new wolfdog! But is he too dangerous? Or just mistreated?
That title and the video itself can cause the fear that if this new wolfdog is too much, they'll be sent off too.
Of course we don't know the whole story but I can understand why you had to do what you did, and I can understand why some of the viewers are nervous.
She called him that, but he wasn't part of any special program or received any particular training. He was an exotic pet who hadn't been off the property for a pretty long while before being removed.
@@opheliapurple that is the first video I saw of her, talking about wolves not being pets, and she says "it cannot be trained out of them" (instinctual behavior) but also said in the same video she was training it for a zoo so I was really impressed. Though she was a professional. I had owned a rottweiler for around 6 years at the time (8 now) so I knew a bit about how not to behave with dominant animals and seemed she was making some mistakes with the wolf. I chalked it up to her being the pro not me and moved on. Didn't surprise me she was attack though, and most likely wasn't the first time the wolf set boundaries for her
576575s Yeah her ego is crazy for someone who very clearly screws up in her own videos a lot. Did you see how pissed she was when people called her out after her ‘X-TREME fight to survive wild wolf attack!’ video?
For the record, Lorne’s breeders are easy to find. He’s a mid-high content wolf dog, it shouldn’t be this hard to avoid getting mauled (the breeder sold him as a birthday gift, come on). I guess that’s what happens when you have no training or experience.
Looks like a (very) low content, if any, predominantly GSD of working line 😬 TBH he looks like a pure working line GSD LOL... Sad but not surprising that you had to rehome Lorne, doesn’t seem like you had proper containment for a high content wolfdog.
Thank you for letting us know about Lorne. I was wondering what happened to him for over a year, I thought he might have hurt someone else and got put down. I hope he is living a good life at his sanctuary!
Probably dead
I really do hope he's actually at a sanctuary, she has a history of lying and Lorne's breeder said that she is almost certain that Lorne is not in a sanctuary. Probably killed or sold off
if youre concerned that Lorne mightve hurt someone *else* then thats already a pretty serious red flag in and of itself lmfao
This woman is the definition of surprised pikachu face.
I got my late female Siberian Husky at about 12 wks. She never barked once in the the seven years I had her.
Same with Lorne. But he was very nearly pure (or what I would consider). Huskies do not normally bark. They are nordic breeds and barking is not advantageous to cold climates, due to a variety of reasons that I do not have time to explain. :)
(but I will if someone wants)
@@camelsandfriends Any chance you have time now? I'm a day late, but its very interesting that they don't bark, especially since I thought the wolves that existed in Northern Europe were some of the largest?
@@camelsandfriends i smell someone who acts like they know everything smh
Does anyone know what sanctuary she gave Lorne up too? I would love to see more of him.
He's almost surely not in a sanctuary. Either sold off or dead
This is a beautiful German Shepherd Mix. Maybe with LowContent wolfdog.
Ity never a hybrid.
Just click beating. 😉
The hell makes you think youre qualified to tale care of a wolf or a wolfdog? Did your experience taking care of lorne so poorly not teach you a god damn lesson?
Not sure if this is a real wolf dog. This dog may be a black German Shepherd.
He's beautiful!! Love that gorgeous plush coat. What do you feed him? Looks like lots of fish to have that shiny coat? What a beautiful animal.
@Narancia Ghirga oh no 😱
@Narancia Ghirga Well I just hope she takes care of these animals well. That dog looks really hot, and I don't see any water.
@Narancia Ghirga And she doesn't even answer my question. I unsubscribed a long time ago, but checked in today because I saw your reply to my question that she never answered. Being an animal lover I was drawn to this channel in the past. Until I found out about the neglect and dishonesty.
Narancia Ghirga how do you know all of these things?
Holy Camel!!!
It seems like that wolfdog is more dog than wolf. Imo.
Welcome back! Love your new friend! He kind of looks like Lorne, but smaller. Wish you and all your furry friends the best! ♥️
He is actually bigger than Lorne! And thank you so much. Now all I need is a camera... :)
camelsandfriends Really? That’s surprising! I guess he just looks smaller to me because your were filming from a distance, lol. Sorry I’ve been sending a lot of comments, there’s just a lot of comfort in your vids. And yes! I can’t wait to see more vids by you!
He has got much more mass and is taller, too. I think he weighs about 20 pounds more. It is because he is more dog than Lorne by far. Wolves really are not all that big. Bear is at least 120 pounds, easy. Wolves should weigh around 90 pounds for the most part.
The extra 30 really makes a difference.
I'm glad you find comfort in my videos and thank you for watching. God bless.
camelsandfriends Oh, I didn’t know that! I’ve learned some things from your vids as well! You’re welcome and God bless you, too!
dick
Here we fucking go again.
What happened to the Dogo!!??? Now she just leaves us hanging.
She probably got rid of it because it was "to much to handle"🙄
@@tord6712 I don't know what happened to her. She doesn't even post videos like she used to. I guess all the work is catching up to her.🤔
@@skyjett3855 Nah that can't be true!!!! She's been taking care of the animals for year's. I'm not buying it.. I just can't!!!
tokyo japan it’s true search her name and the words animal cruelty. Her horse was already seized and is now doing MUCH BETTER out of this woman’s care. Now they just need to get those other animals out of there
@@skyjett3855 Oh God your killing me!! It's just certain things I don't want to believe. That would mean she's just in it for the money. Maybe she just doesn't know how to care for horses, or finally bit off more than she can chew!! Thanks for the head's up. I'll look into this.
Handsome wolfo
I think the best thing you could have done for Lorne was give him away bc, no offense, but you don't seem as though you are the right person to own a wolfdog. What if your friends need help again or something else happens? Animals rely on us to be their family and a stable source. Maybe I'm crazy and I see my animals as my children but if friends (not even blood relatives) need a place to stay and I have to abandon or give away my animals for that, I'm a shitty person.
The problem was you failed Lorne. You could not manage him and let him get away with too much til it was too late. You preached on how certain people shouldn't own them bc they are a lot of work and require sacrifice yet you bailed on him and then you get ANOTHER baby.
Wow, what a surprise to see you here! But yes, I agree. It's considerably selfish of this woman to buy another wolfdog to replace one that had relied on her for so many years just because she was shocked by behavior problems.
Fortunately, Camelsandfriends was charged with animal abuse as she deserved, and hopefully she wont be messing around with innocent creatures this way again.
wow even alteori's here
@@alyssabullock6421 Oh sorry for the late reply but yeah me too. I've worked at shelter and seen the amount of abandoned animals that were dumped once they already formed a bond with their owners. Many times, there are reasons written in for why they are abandoned. MOST of the reasons we at the shelter saw included:
1. Cannot handle him/her
2. Too aggressive
3. Divorce
Every single one of those poor babies look so lost and heartbroken. It made me happy to distract them if even for an hour.
I quit when one of the scared pups, a beautiful eskimo girl (dumped from a divorce) reacted defensively to a little girl sticking her finger in the pup's cage and the shelter decided to put her down. I wanted to adopt her bc despite them claiming she was aggressive, I went in the cage with her and sat with her and she nuzzled her nose into my arms as I held her. SHE WAS SHAKING!!! They refused to wait til I could come up with the money which would have only been a week. A WEEK!!! That haunts me to this day. Half the shelters that claim they are for animals rights are not.
Imagine from the animal's pov being dumped at a place with constant crying and distressed dogs and being able to constantly smell the death of other dogs. It made me to f--ing sick to my stomach.
I'll never look at the SPCA the same way again.
@@Quarckster thanks for the support
What’s the name of the sanctuary you sent Lorne too? For reference? Shouldn’t be too big of a secret to tell us who cared for him too
Agree. As a rehabilitator of 20, I’d love to know.
Hi so this might sound really werid but we had what we thought was a mixed breed dog, but after seeing you wolf, and your wolfs behaviour, im almost positive he was either a wolf or a wolfdog. His name was major and back then the dogs in my community were allowed to roam freely without owners and he came to us because he was "owned" by a neighbour who knew our family were experienced with dogs and he couldnt control him. Major would destroy that guys house so he would let him come and go as he pleased. In the community Major was the definite Alpha and all the dogs would submit to him. Also he was huge and looked just like the wolf you had same markings except is fur was slightly longer and the whitish collar was more pronounced. So the neighbour asked my family to take him and we "trained him" as much as possible, basically we made sure he was bottom of the pack in our house but just like that video of your wolf wanting to go inside he was stubborn, determined and a real challenge. We tried not to let him out on his own as the dog wardens had already spotted him and he had been called a cat killer, but whenever he got the chance he would be gone, during one time he got loose it turned out he had jumped a wall and got into the yard of a lady who had a hige brown female dog and mated with her. Major was their 3 days and the lady said he was so aggressive he wouldnt let her in the yard. She heard through the community we were looking for him and we went to pick him up, he greeted us just like your wolf excited then when grabbed by the scruff straight to submissive. It just shocked me so much when i saw your wolf i though id share. Oh and he never liked to walk on a lead he would take the lead from your hand and walk in front of us, to and from the fields on "walks", he also was never trained to defend us but the aggression i saw from him when a group of youths tried to start trouble one day actually scared me, no one was hurt mainly because he was on a lead and they ran away( behaved submissive). He was never submissive around food literally took a barm cake out my mouth one day. But he lived with us until he was 12 and passed away with us by his side. He was my buddy, but always had to keep one eye open, unlike my other dogs who i could trust completly. Hope you enjoy reading my little spontaneous post ha ha take care
This ''wolfdog'' is probably not even a wolfdog, if so its a low-content one because its build like a regular black GSD
quote from comment below: "she (the creator who filmed this video here) starved a horse in 2019 and her whole place got shut down" - scandalous! Reporting the channel to RUclips right now; people like this shouldn't be given a platform.
*gets rid of wolf hybrid because of aggression*
*gets another wolf hybrid with more aggression*
woman brain moment
update on the Wolf 🐺 please
Beautiful pup! We cant wait to get our next hybrid.
Bear is beautiful! He has a lot of German Shepherd in him from what I can tell. I have had five in my lifetime and love them so much. Hopefully he will flourish in your care.
PianoGirl looks like a German Shepherd to me
Its cute I really want one and I now a trainer that can help me with it
Please research and understand they extremely energetic, intelligent, a bit expensive and naughty (Not in a bad way) dogs,
If you would like to train the wolfdog yourself, watch some of Victoria Stlwel training videos, and watch this video by
H & K too:ruclips.net/video/1ERfph6lxRg/видео.html
CamelsAndFriends actually got charged for animal cruelty in 2019 for starving a horse to near death and not providing water to her camels, and she was found to be on drugs.
Good. I hope her channel gets taken down for animal cruelty because she doesn't deserve any pets ever again
That's like 75% German Shepherd 25% wolf max...
What happened to the other Wolf? You sent to a sanctuary?
This situation with Lorne still ticks me off. I cant even trust she sent him to a safe place. If she cared enough, she'd have told us what the name of the location was :/
Good riddance though, she didnt deserve Lorne, and now she's gotten what was coming to her with all her animal abuse and "wolfdogs are dangerous, unlovable animals" nonesense. She treats her dog like a wild animal and gets shocked when it acts like a wild animal, before replacing him with another wolf dog who has bite history. Utter stupidity
she actually didn't send him away, she was charged for killing Lorne. :)
When are we going to get an update on the Appaloosa?
Very soon! She has quite a story to tell, I think.
camelsandfriends can’t wait 🥰🥰
That horse was removed from her care emaciated and near death. She didn’t attend a hearing for it and it’s permanently gone. The rescue who took it in say she’s recovering well.
I doubt you’ll ever get an update so I thought I’d tell you.
@@opheliapurple wowwww. Where did you get an update about that? This girl needs to be stopped from getting new animals 🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@opheliapurple she also legally changed her name.
Lady: Hi bear
Me: That’s a wolf
I have a wolf dog he is 2 yrs old and he looks like both Lorne and bear both he is my 114 .lb gentle giant I wish I knew how to share a pic or video with you all. Peace
I love wolves
He's gonna attack i
A wolf is wolf he will bite and if he gets uncomfortable with other dogs he can easily kill a doberman or labrador. If I would have much space for wolf or wolf dog I would own some horses or some good trainable dogs and have fun with friends and family rather that owning a wolf dog. And yes if you really want to help those wolfs then please keep them where they came from open in wild.
Nice to see you posting a video again. It's good that Lorne is in a sanctuary now. I hope he's content with his pack there. I think you made the right decision at the time. And good luck with this one, like a baby Lorne he looks but no less ferocious :)
faack off
It's good to see you. I hope everything has been going well for you and the animals.
Guess I was very lucky when a wolf/German Shepard was placed in my care 11 years ago. She has turned out to be the best animal I have ever had. She loves people and other animals. She's beautiful too, having a solid white coat. Even with her age, they talk about how pretty she is. Her best friend was our cat that recently passed away.
I hope to see more soon. Take care Alex. 💝💝💝
Mistreated, "Can't have a pet wolf dog as a pet because you can't treat your pet as a pet because it's animal abuse" So you neglect it? Which is literal animal abuse? You don't play, allow your wolf dog to exercise, you don't feed him? You don't take care of him, show affection? How would any of those be considered as animal abuse.
Can we please have more CAMELS? :-) We miss them.
Don't worry you just have a high drive German shephard thats been allowed to sit idle and not work. What ever wolf he has is very vvery low. Hes identical to a dog we acquired a while back. He was Only 10% wolf.
And so the cycle repeats anew.
You're going to push these animals over the edge one of these days, because you have no idea how to care for them.
And when it happens, you will have nobody but yourself to blame.
If he’s a wolfdog,then y call him a bear 🙃
Wolves do bark they make bark like noises or at least whatever the wolf looking animals ive seen many times do...
Yea idk where she got that from lol
You had two people move in and you get rid of your wolfdog wtf
Hello! It's so good to see you back here!
You were attacked by a wolfdog for twenty minutes?? I'd have thrown my camera away or at the wolfdog or just slam him/her with the camera. And you now have another wolfdog? Hmmm.
I know I'm late to comment but here are my comments.
welcome back! we needed update for we like your story. you are someone special. best!
Thank you so much. And thank you for watching. This comment brightened my day for sure.
Breeders and owners often use percentages to describe - and put a price tag on - their wolfdogs, but these estimations are grossly misleading because there is no way to control or determine which genes are inherited and expressed in their animals. The science of genetics just doesn’t work that way. As a result, there is a great deal of unpredictability in looks and behavior between individuals.🐺🐾
Due to their high intelligence and social complexity, wolves and wolfdogs can be extremely restless and bored (resulting in destructive and compulsive behaviors). They are usually hyper-sensitive to their environment and far more reactive to negative stimuli than domestic dogs. They are also extremely agile and strong, and they are skilled jumpers, diggers, and climbers, making them difficult to contain. Wolves and wolfdogs have a strong prey drive that cannot be controlled through human commands, and any small running creature can be seen as prey to the animal - rabbit, cat, or child. They are also extremely territorial which can result in hyper-vigilant resource guarding.🐺🐾
🐺🐾
Ya'at eeh!
Why did she just get another wolf-dog, after putting the other dog in a sanctuary? I get if you find out you can’t “handle” a species once, but why would you get another creature of that species? Even giving up a pet once is too much, but I’m giving people who must do this the benefit of the doubt. If you can’t handle a species once, don’t get it again.
@@mafiahalo93 she probably got drunk/high and killed it. I’m just saying her story isn’t even reasonable. If you’re gonna lie, at least make sure the story is reasonable.
No !!!
What happened to Lorne ?
I am checking in after a long while to read that Lorne is gone.
How very sad.
She couldn't handle him so she brought him to a sanctuary. She then got this one to fill some weird void.
She doesn't know how to care for these animals and honestly, shouldn't have any.
@@skyforgerpack3645
Yeah, I read all of that stuff in the comments.
But, then she gets another wolf/dog mix with a biting history ?
It doesn't make sense.
I think that she had him killed.
Maybe during or after the attack on her.
Whatever happened, she provoked the attack.
She shouldn't have animals in her care.
A coworker friend of hers killed some of her animals is what I read.
With a shot ?
Or by massacreing them ?
Disturbing anyways.
I didn't check in with the channel for years, and one day I do and this is what I read/hear.
So very sad.
He was a very intelligent animal.
The right person would have had a great animal.
@@skyforgerpack3645 agreed it seems as if this one is just a replacement for lorne and nothing else and I guarantee that she's just gonna get rid of this one too
Came back to check on you and your channel. I see lot has happened. But for wht it's worth I trust your doing what is best.
Also I'm glad to see your helping another wolf dog so many out there that would just give up on this one
Love u and your channel 😘
To me it looks like a German Shepherd mix. It's not wolf dog and it behave like a dog.
same thoughts. Those ears and definitely the hind quarters scream shepherd and the fact that it's barking, not floofing or yapping but actually barking just shows that it's a low to no wolf mix
@@eg6gsr right. I agreed with you.
I love your wolf dog. ❤❤❤
Thank you. I love him, too.
You should look into training your dogs especially your wolfdogs. Mine is around my kids and farm animals. An untrained dog is recipe for disaster. Wolfdogs will absolutely have agression and will resource guard which involves training. Your making excuses for your dogs agression because of his wolf content. I train my dogs the same (wolf hybrid and regular dog) they both know recall as well and when I say release it means release whether it be meat or anything their chewing on.
Well my dad owns a dragon and he’s just fine so...
why is this comment unironically funny to me
@@pinesapp lololol. I don’t even remember commenting this. Glad you got a laugh though!
@@motorhead_jt21 and i was not expecting a reply in 17 minutes wtf