10:29 , i encounter this everytime in studio, static camera, static subject, 2 out of 5 pictures (not even burst) are out of focus. and yet people are pleased with the new update.
12 дней назад+1
I guess people are pleased cos it's a slight improvement over what it was. But for me it's still not clear what partially revised AF means. I wish they just shared this info so we have a better understanding of what actually is happening.
12 дней назад+1
And it is really annoying when you have basically a static isolated subject and it goes out of focus
I honestly hope this was the best they could do until the end of 2024, as they promised, and that we get more incremental firmware updates for the AF in 2025. Can't help but wonder, does Fuji realise how many of their users are changing systems? Maybe they don't care and have shifted their focus to the tiktok influencers. It will only be so long before Sony fixes the color science. Nevertheless, thank you for this test.
15 дней назад+3
I also hope that! It's a pity this happens with the AF because the camera is pretty good otherwise.
I think that Fujifilm can not fix it. After that long waited update AF should be perfect. I think that they start releasing 6th generation cameras instead of fixing 5th gen series, which may be the cause of a move of a lot of professionals to other brands on which they can rely.
15 дней назад+2
I hope they do manage to fix it with firmware. This is just a partially revised version so there is some hope I guess. I have definitely noticed the shift in users. I have a friend who uses two X-T5s and he changed to Canon.
Hi! Nope it was the 16-55 Mark I, the 33mm F1.4 and the Viltrox 75mm F1.2 I have used the 16-55 II during a touch and try event though. There is another video on the channel about that
Shoot my daughter on stage with x-e4 + 70-300 yesterday. Basically get exactly same results in video, sometimes it's perfect and keeps focus where I'll be surprised how the hell it managed to do that, and 5 seconds after it lost focus completely and not even trying to reacquire it. My friend had a7iv, and no issues with af in exact same scenario, but colors are not on par. Eterna is a lifesaver, I just made small clips, sent it to the phone and it's all done. p.s.: photos was all in focus. that firmware update for 70-300 is must have, not all fuji fw updates is horrible, haha.
@@Chancebauer for sure, no hate on sony. but I'm amateur and shooting for friends or my family, don't really want to color grade or smth. eterna with couple of tweaks is a lifesaver for me.
12 дней назад
True but sometimes you just want the video ASAP and that's an extra step to be added.
Did you try photography, if so how did it perform?
15 дней назад
yep, both photos and videos are shot in this test. I think the inconsistency is more noticeable in photos than in video. I mean you could also notice in video but you would have to really go frame by frame
I think Fuji has a problem with processing power. Their video goes to 400 mbs per second, that's a lot of processing data of fancy colors, so there is not much left for auto focusing. Sony has a great autofocus, but weaker color science. Something has to give.
sony is a leader in sensor technology, they have a larger market share. Auto focus is AI driven by processors.
13 дней назад
You think so? Interesting, do you think that if we were to shoot at the lowest mbs rate would improve the AF performance? But that would be video only? How about photos? How do you explain? Shooting the lowest quality JPG?
Dunno about this because higher bitrates could actually mean less processing. EG, 5D Mark iv’s video was this huge codec because it was easier for the camera to handle (less compression work)
thanks for the video ! what autofocus settings did you use (speed, sensibility) ?
15 дней назад+1
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! For photos used AF-C the default settings Multipurpose mode For video I used AF-C with AF Mode: multi And default settings Tracking sensitivity 2 AF speed 0 And some people might say well you should have used Sensitivity 3 and AF speed -2 or something else but I just wanted to test the camera with the default settings as if it was coming out of the box because some people sometimes don't have the physical time to fiddle with settings in scenarios that are dynamic.
Yeh, its a disappointing update. It is better maybe one instance, a solo YTer recording themselves, but in practically every other scenario it is nervous and hunting a lot. I have had to toggle off subject detection for 4 paid gigs in December, something I never had to do in 5.03. This being the great AF fixed promised and worked on since May, that's it... I do not believe they will ever resolve this issue. I am not even confident successor cameras will improve. It feels like gross incompetence within an entire division. It's not enough to sack devs and f/w teams, entire managers and departments need fired. As soon as an affordable stacked sensor/global shutter super 35 camera comes out (*cough Canon R7II cough*), the XH2S will have serious limited appeal. Fuji will be fine, tiktok influencers will keep them afloat for many years to come I suspect.
12 дней назад+1
I am really sorry to hear and I feel you. I hope there will be a further update in which they fully revise the AF and it makes it usable. Yes at the moment subject detection does a weird thing even with static subjects. The thing I don't understand is: If I can do this test and see that there is something wrong why can't the engineers at Fujifilm do the same? Or hire some photographers and creators to test it before release. Anyway I am seeing a few creators making the change and some of my friends already made the change themselves.
10:29 , i encounter this everytime in studio, static camera, static subject, 2 out of 5 pictures (not even burst) are out of focus. and yet people are pleased with the new update.
I guess people are pleased cos it's a slight improvement over what it was. But for me it's still not clear what partially revised AF means. I wish they just shared this info so we have a better understanding of what actually is happening.
And it is really annoying when you have basically a static isolated subject and it goes out of focus
I honestly hope this was the best they could do until the end of 2024, as they promised, and that we get more incremental firmware updates for the AF in 2025. Can't help but wonder, does Fuji realise how many of their users are changing systems? Maybe they don't care and have shifted their focus to the tiktok influencers. It will only be so long before Sony fixes the color science.
Nevertheless, thank you for this test.
I also hope that! It's a pity this happens with the AF because the camera is pretty good otherwise.
I think that Fujifilm can not fix it. After that long waited update AF should be perfect. I think that they start releasing 6th generation cameras instead of fixing 5th gen series, which may be the cause of a move of a lot of professionals to other brands on which they can rely.
I hope they do manage to fix it with firmware. This is just a partially revised version so there is some hope I guess. I have definitely noticed the shift in users. I have a friend who uses two X-T5s and he changed to Canon.
Imagine the XH2s does have an Stacked_Sensor for those situations... oh wait. 🤣
Thank you, did you use the 16-55II ?
Hi! Nope it was the 16-55 Mark I, the 33mm F1.4 and the Viltrox 75mm F1.2
I have used the 16-55 II during a touch and try event though. There is another video on the channel about that
Shoot my daughter on stage with x-e4 + 70-300 yesterday. Basically get exactly same results in video, sometimes it's perfect and keeps focus where I'll be surprised how the hell it managed to do that, and 5 seconds after it lost focus completely and not even trying to reacquire it. My friend had a7iv, and no issues with af in exact same scenario, but colors are not on par. Eterna is a lifesaver, I just made small clips, sent it to the phone and it's all done.
p.s.: photos was all in focus. that firmware update for 70-300 is must have, not all fuji fw updates is horrible, haha.
I feel you! It is that inconsistency the gets me.
sony colors can be easily corrected in s-log
@@Chancebauer for sure, no hate on sony. but I'm amateur and shooting for friends or my family, don't really want to color grade or smth. eterna with couple of tweaks is a lifesaver for me.
True but sometimes you just want the video ASAP and that's an extra step to be added.
Did you try photography, if so how did it perform?
yep, both photos and videos are shot in this test. I think the inconsistency is more noticeable in photos than in video. I mean you could also notice in video but you would have to really go frame by frame
I think Fuji has a problem with processing power. Their video goes to 400 mbs per second, that's a lot of processing data of fancy colors, so there is not much left for auto focusing. Sony has a great autofocus, but weaker color science. Something has to give.
sony is a leader in sensor technology, they have a larger market share. Auto focus is AI driven by processors.
You think so? Interesting, do you think that if we were to shoot at the lowest mbs rate would improve the AF performance? But that would be video only? How about photos? How do you explain? Shooting the lowest quality JPG?
Dunno about this because higher bitrates could actually mean less processing. EG, 5D Mark iv’s video was this huge codec because it was easier for the camera to handle (less compression work)
thanks for the video ! what autofocus settings did you use (speed, sensibility) ?
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
For photos used AF-C the default settings Multipurpose mode
For video I used AF-C with AF Mode: multi
And default settings Tracking sensitivity 2 AF speed 0
And some people might say well you should have used Sensitivity 3 and AF speed -2 or something else but I just wanted to test the camera with the default settings as if it was coming out of the box because some people sometimes don't have the physical time to fiddle with settings in scenarios that are dynamic.
Yeh, its a disappointing update. It is better maybe one instance, a solo YTer recording themselves, but in practically every other scenario it is nervous and hunting a lot. I have had to toggle off subject detection for 4 paid gigs in December, something I never had to do in 5.03. This being the great AF fixed promised and worked on since May, that's it... I do not believe they will ever resolve this issue. I am not even confident successor cameras will improve. It feels like gross incompetence within an entire division. It's not enough to sack devs and f/w teams, entire managers and departments need fired.
As soon as an affordable stacked sensor/global shutter super 35 camera comes out (*cough Canon R7II cough*), the XH2S will have serious limited appeal.
Fuji will be fine, tiktok influencers will keep them afloat for many years to come I suspect.
I am really sorry to hear and I feel you. I hope there will be a further update in which they fully revise the AF and it makes it usable. Yes at the moment subject detection does a weird thing even with static subjects. The thing I don't understand is: If I can do this test and see that there is something wrong why can't the engineers at Fujifilm do the same? Or hire some photographers and creators to test it before release. Anyway I am seeing a few creators making the change and some of my friends already made the change themselves.