Best Stud Finder? $262 Bosch vs $10 CH Hanson vs 9 Other Wall Stud Scanners! Let's find out!
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2020
- Stud finders, detectors, wall scanners tested: DeWalt, Zircon, Franklin T6, Franklin T13, C.H. Hanson, Bosch GMS 120, Bosch D-TECT 120, Zircon A100, Stanley, Perlesmith, and JAXWQ. Stud detectors tested for stud detection, stud edge detection, water filled PVC pipe, copper and metal pipe, electric, and speaker wire.
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"I went ahead and built a test wall."
I appreciate how much work goes into these videos.
Thanks so much!
Pretty awesome that he actually went ahead and textured and painted it! Dont know any other youtuber willing to put as much work into his projects as Prjoect Farm!
That’s was pretty awesome, just wish he would have done some with insulation in the stud bays, especially the foil backed stuff
J Mac true I forgot about that
@@SuperSkittles1996 took the words out of my mouth haha hes always above and beyond
My super power is the ability to miss every stud, regardless of tools or equipment. It’s pretty impressive.
Is it weird to have the same super power?
U have that too I always found it really useful especially when ur trying to put up something
lol Thanks for watching.
I think we were both exposed to the same burst of gama radiation because I have the same power.
Would have liked to see the Walabot
You sir saved me hours of reading unqualified opinions online! Your testing methods and results were perfect for answering my performance based questions! Thank you From Ohio!
You are welcome! Glad to hear!
I've read numerous reviews calling the Bosch GMS 120 a piece of shit that can't detect anything. This is why I always check here for reviews before trusting random strangers.
There is one thing that a lot of people seem to miss when using the Bosch D-Tect 120: your second hand has to stay in contact with the wall while using the device. The manual says that and it makes a big difference. The only issue is: who reads manuals?
Is it something to do with grounding some kind of signal coming from it?
@@Erutan409 I guess so.
That is my experience as well, also I’ve had any issues with it being off at all.
@@Erutan409 Yes, its grounding of the unit, I was becoming really frustrated with both the GMS 120 & the D-Tect 120, but then I found out that certain wall coverings & paints seem to generate static when the scanner is moved across the surface, I place my free hand next to the unit as I move it across the surface, its stops the false positive readings (mostly incorrectly identified electrical cable).
No you cannot ground it, the unit is plastic and Drywall/Sheetrock is not grounded. The unit uses a sonar sensor so by putting your hand you provide a boundary for the sonar but other units do not require this so it seems odd.
As a contractor trying to stay up to date with changing tech, and making sure to get the best bang for my buck I have to say…I’m watching more and more of your videos, and the more I watch the more I realize you are the best on RUclips. No filler, no bs, no sponsors, just straight honest to God info…and man, they’re really helping a lot
Thanks! Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
And he keeps his comedy short and sweet.
A short wise crack or a comical moment is fine every now and then.
He stays focused on the objective and not the entertainment.
Leave that for the Discovery Channel.
They have a knack for turning the most interesting reality shows into ridiculous comedy in a blink of an eye. I.e. Pawn Stars, Pickers, American Restoration, etc.
Thanks
They're helping a lot? We're gonna test that!
Check out aVe and his BOLTR videos
Best stud finder was my ex wife when I was out of town.
Yeah, we know.
ouch..... that made me cringe lol
Sorry, didn’t know she was married 😱
lol
@@alpine9996 No prob, it makes us even with me and your mom....lol
If you decide to do a follow-up, we have really terrible walls here in the Northeast. I’d love to see a worst-case scenario test of how well these perform on horsehair plaster walls, as well as how many layers of drywall on top of each other there can be before they can no longer find a stud.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Seconded! As a handyman I am constantly up against old plaster and multiple layers of drywall.
@@ProjectFarm Third'd (?) - I run into a lot of Plaster and Lath walls in NE Ohio, and my higher-end Zircon works maybe 30% of the time.
I'd also love some plaster wall testing, I really need to find a reliable finder that works.
I see people on TV finding studs through ceramic tile and fiberglass shower surrounds. Call me skeptical, Could you add this to your testing? Thanks, love your channel.
Without a doubt you are the best channel on RUclips for honest, thorough, and no "BS" or filler to your videos. I love watching all your tool and equipment reviews and they are very helpful when trying to buy a tool or piece of equipment related to the garage or home. I am also a car detailing enthusiast and a lot of your videos relate to that endeavor as well so thanks for what you do sir and for bringing this information to the masses out here in RUclips land watching these informative video tool and product reviews. Happy Holidays and looking forward to your videos in the future!
Thanks so much! Happy Holidays!
I can locate pipes, wires and conduit with a drill bit every time I drill a hole in sheet rock. Studs seem to elude me every time.
Same here I can literally drill every half inch for 36 inches and still miss the studs lol
😂
I know it seems a bit exaggerated but its closer to the truth than most realize
Agreed!
@@acexxxoasis you should see the mess of my ceiling. Yep 12 holes until I found the stud. Was the cheapest most accurate way ever.
“We’re gonna test that” I swear I get so excited when he says that
Thanks for watching.
😂 so relatable!!
Sometimes his videos make me want to play a drinking game. Take a chug every time he says brand.
Same
you gotta get a life.
I was a maintenance tech for several years. Personally, I love the C.H. Hanson. It will find copper against the wall. Its the only one that will stay on the wall when it finds a screw. I like it alot better than the electronic ones. 100% accuracy and it's cheap. I've had the same one for years. It's attached to the roof of my truck and never moves. I've never had to replace batteries.
Tanks for sharing.
I have the Hanson as well, to supplement the Zircon. I often use them both simultaneously.
I like the Hanson too. It’s a little annoying having to find the screws but it’s dead on.
Same- love the Hanson. Small, reliable and no batteries or calibrating to mess with
Now what I'd like to see would be the same test again, but this time with old-style lath and plaster rather than drywall. My limited experience is the extra plaster density and wood lath make it so most stud finders either decide the whole wall is a stud, or decide there are no studs.
Thanks for the suggestion.
This guy just builds a spare wall for testing tools. Some dedication there.
Thanks for watching!
And he painted it a nice blue!
A wall? Pssh! He does testing where he lets the product/item being tested sit for weeks, months and even a year. THAT’S dedication, my friend!
He’s entertaining without coming off as a know-it-all, his tests are about as scientific as any lay person could get without an actual “lab”and he lets the results speak for themselves with very little opinion or interjection. Best channel on YT.
@@WayneTheBoatGuy Textured, and let it dry for 5 days!
@@ProjectFarm Love your tests, not sure it helped me, still scratching my head to decide but appreciate your videos!
am I the only one finding this channel a great place to look for new products I never head of? 😄 excellent job man . big fan of yours
Awesome! Thank you!
Yes you are the only one in the world to find that.
Literally project farm reviews/ test and analysis carry the most weight when buying new tools, products etc. The effort he puts into every review to give you an absolute understanding on how every product performs is unreal.
I've had my Zircon A100 for over a decade and it's hands down the best for the money! For the features like deep scan and the "laser", accuracy and ease of use, I haven't found anything that can touch it for even double the money.
Thanks for sharing.
This video doubled down on my choice for years - Zircon 1100 from HomeDepot
This fellow deserves every bit of whatever success he attains, here. He is extremely honorable in his ways and very thorough..
Thanks!
I love this channel! Im 19 and work in a hardware store as a student job and because of these videos, im able to inform customers more efficiently about which products are better. Thanks!
That is awesome! Thanks for watching.
Wow, you put a lot of time and money into making this video to help people choose the right scanner. Thank you for the excellent testing! A++
New here? Aha. That’s what he does best. One of the best channels on youtube. Wouldn’t think of buying anything without checking to see if he’s tested it first
You're welcome!
@@EazyFieldsports What I appreciate the most is the kind of tests that he has to wait a long time to get the results, like exposing zip ties to the outside for a year. That takes a lot of planning and commitment.
Next test, have a kid (I know he has a few) and report back 18 years later to tell us if it's worth it :)
@@ProjectFarm I own the zircon HD900 and you tested the A100.
Can you compare all the zircon models
@Throw Stone fr hes been ding this a while now. Everything I buy is based off of PF tests and reviews.
You are my go-to for tool, glue, etc. comparisons! I really appreciate your consistent scientific method to compare things in multiple different ways (and multiple times for repeatability (esp with the glue review)). I know it takes effort to set it all up, but I don't know of any more thorough reviewer/tester out there. Thanks very much!
Thanks and you are welcome!
If you ever decide to redo this test (though it'd be a lot of work), it'd be nice to test these against traditional lath-and-plaster walls as that's the real ultimate test of any stud finder (and for those of us with old houses, it'd be a godsend to find one that actually works!).
Thanks for the suggestion.
Straight up I got so frustrated with my lathe and plaster walls I just bought a scope. I drill one hole, stick in the scope, turn on its light, and because our walls are hollow - I can visually see everything!
Try the Bosch GMS 1220
not that it's a practical suggestion in most cases but a decent sensitivity thermal camera makes an incredibly good studfinder, i've got some old firefighter cams i use for it and it works great when normal stud finders just don't work in my 1910's house, doesn't work as well with mildly insulated walls but does work well with super well insulated walls (the studs are just worse insulated instead of better)
Can't believe he didn't do the 'Dad joke'. Admirable restraint!
I can’t not point it at myself and say “ found one!”
Thanks for watching!
@@mraycgz I go the opposite direction - point it at my brother-in-law and say, "No reading."
Well I can never get these to work because I set them off all the time 😆
What a bunch! 😂
i dont even have drywall, and will never used this product in my country, why i'm watching it? damn, you have a good video presentation to get my attention to watched it by curiousity.. keep the good job
Thanks so much!
Yeah same :) we only have concrete and blocks
@@Liftium Russia ?
The feature to test for PVC pipes and wires work through other materials as well. In fact I have never seen Bosch marketing mention drywalls. Here both these Bosch products are just marketed as a stud finder period.
Same pfp
I hope your channel blows up and forces companies to make better tools. Thank you for helping every one of us find tools actually worth the money
You are welcome!
Best channel on youtube by far. I own an old house with nothing but lath and plaster. Best results for finding studs is to detect the small finishing nails that are used to secure the laths. The magnetic ones work really well and was able to find them well with the cheap Amazon one using metal mode (Model TH510)
Thanks for the feedback.
If I bought every cool thing you reviewed I'd be a very poor man with a lot of cool stuff.
Hi David, lol. Yes, burnng a hole in my pocket, and I'll need to test "credit card finders" soon. Have a great week!
Great for present shopping tho! 😁
Speaking of the stuff, what do you do with the tested products when you're done? eBay?
I admire the simplicity, applicability, and unbiased nature of your testing. You put a lot into these tests in terms of both mental and physical effort. Glad I found your channel.
Thanks so much!
I worked for Bosch and bought one of theirs cheap with employee discount, and it was crap. Im glad I didnt pay the insane prices they charged, and once again you proved what I had suspected. The top end Bosch found everything, but at an insane price.
Thanks for the feedback.
I love that Zircon, been using them for several years, I've got one in my home toolbox and one on my work truck and it's never let me down. The only time I ever hit a wire with a drill was when I didn't grab it off the truck. Thanks for the amazing videos!
You are welcome!
Manufacturers are gonna use "This product is Project Farm certified" someday.
That video he did of the trim restoration products the "winner" of that test is already blasting it all over social media....
@@hallmarksdetailingllc8078 I wouldn't do that product now because they won, and quality will probably come down now that they know they won.
For sure. Look at Rotten Tomatoes and certified fresh on commercials.
50x more accurate than consumer's distort.
@@nunya___ not many got this. Hilarious 😂
I wouldn't necessarily even mind seeing another round with different variants from the same manufacturer. I'll give you an example you go into Home Depot to pick up a stud finder and there must be a half a dozen different types from Zircon alone.
How much does price make a difference within the same brand name? We got a little bit of a sample of that with Bosch but I wouldn't mind seeing more.
Another great video! Thank you for all the time and effort you put in.
I bought a Zircon StudSensor e40 on sale a few years ago.
After watching this video, I wonder how well the live electric warning works.
I have a Zircon... model number not at my fingertips now, but it was the $40ish version. Has been incredibly accurate including finding live wires.
I think I paid around $10, and saved about $5 or $6.
I've owned 2 different Zircon units and neither could find the studs in my walls. Its maddening. Asked a buddy to borrow his which was a Zircon as well and his was junk too.
BIG TIP - I’ve been in construction most of my life and I’m 59 now. So I’ve owned a lot of stud finder’s and after going through electronic warfare training in the military, I finally understood how they work so I put out a video about it and it is exploding on my channel because it’s helping so many people. Just search my channel for how to use a stud finder and you should find it.
I love how in depth you go with your tests.
Thanks!
Please test the Walabot 2 next round, it’s a bit expensive at $170, but it basically lets you see through walls. I’m really interested how it would do against some of the other more premium stud finders
I bought my walabot 5 yrs ago, it has not let me down yet. like thebfinding pioe and wire feature
I thought he would be reviewing it.. It's been out for a few years out now. I use to have the middle range ($) zircom and it's now on the trash! I do better with a small pilot hole!
@@nextprojectawesome9673 Why a pain for pros?
I can attest to the Walabot being very good. Its not as fast as some of these but it does the job well. I've used it on both lathe and plaster and drywall. Note it operates differently for each. For drywall its as advertised with the cartoon of the stud, romex, etc. (It can detect a critter supposedly.) For lathe and plaster its not so pretty. It gives you a zone "blob" that is the shape of what is below. So a stud is narrow rectangular-ish blob and a pipe is narrower etc. Think thermal camera. That said - it was very accurate and for old lathe and plaster that is nice to have especially if your house was pre-code or had an improvisational handyman.
This has rapidly become one of my favorite RUclips channels. Not often will you find a content creator that not only provides fantastic content, but still takes the time to respond to comments, especially when the channel has over a million subs!
Wow, thank you!
Same here, anything I buy I check with this channel first to see if WE HAVE TESTED THAT
As someone who has wall mounted a lot of televisions, speakers and shelves, I would definitely say Zircon is the best overall. I've got an older Zircon unit, I just find the edges, mark the center, it's never missed once.
Thanks for the feedback.
Same here...my dad has a 15 year old unit...I bought a zircon 4 years ago....both work fantasic.
Agree. I have the basic Zircon model that just has a light that tells you where the stud edges are. No idea how you could get a better and simpler product for what it cost ($10 bucks maybe?).
Me too love my Zircon, but also appreciate the franklin for not having to calibrate it.
Any luck with plaster?
Whenever I have to buy a tool or some kind of equipment this is where I come to for real honest results ... THANK YOU
Yet another video where I needed to purchase a tool and found you've done all the legwork for us. Looking at the standard spacing I was also wondering if I would need a drywall anchor and you also have the video there too! I always love this channel, thanks for being an honest tester and a great guy!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Let's see the most accurate laser levels and laser measurers!
Great video idea! Thank you
I just mentioned carpentry levels! Let’s combine the two!
@@ThatOddLife it be interesting to see if an empire level is just as good as a Stabila
Every Dad goes into Home Depot, grabs a stud finder and puts it up to his chest and says "Yep, this one works"
I made the mistake of saying this to my wife using a Stanley metal stud detector, it apparently detected a Zippo lighter I had in the left chest pocket of my shirt, when I said look this stud finder actually works she didn't miss a beat and said yeah even it detected that cold iron heart of yours.
ha ha ha... I just checked my fb archive. I did, in fact, make this joke 3 years ago!
@@notchagrandpa8875 your wife sounds awesome!
@@ColeSpolaric She's a special lady.
@@notchagrandpa8875 Your wife is disrespectful. Don't get dogged out of your own bed.
The fact you're objective and not biased or paid for any opinions you have all my respect, liked subscribed and will watch all test videos before I buy anything new!
Thanks! Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Just picked up the Franklin Sensors pro model with the electrical detection. I was able to install some heavy duty metal shelving in my garage in just a few minutes. It's truly a joy being able to reliably see the studs in the wall and ceiling and know where the center is!
Thanks for sharing!
As usual well done, professional, never boring and quick pace editing. You’re good dude. Very good job.
I appreciate that!
Good? He's the reason youtube was reinvented. The man needs a beer.
"We're gonna test that" should be a Project Farm T-shirt.
Great suggestion. Thank you.
Yes!
I would buy that immediately
I would buy one.
I have a house with 145 Y.O. plaster walls with layers of paint and nonstandard stud depths + spacings,and 90% of stuff finders are totally useless at telling the Lathe vs. Stud or even seeing through the thickness of the plaster.
It's a huge pain. Getting a deep dive test with some 1" thick plaster and 1/4" lathe walls would be WONDERFUL! It would also be a huge help to a LOT of us restorationists and owners of old colonial and Victorian homes (most of Philadelphia, NYC, Boston, Richmond, Alexandria, D.C., Charleston, Detroit, Buffalo, Memphis, &c.
I love these testing scenarios and test products of a wide range for price to determine value. As a self-proclaimed handyman around the house, garden and garage, I always check this channel for comparisons of products or tools!
Thanks! Thanks for sharing!
I’m not sure how you’d test them, but how about shop hand cleaners like Fast Orange, Lava, etc?
Thanks for the video idea.
Include Prosoap in this one.
Also new motor oil to clean hands
@@backwoodsbilly8548 No, no, no...WD40!
Have to include gojo too
I've always found the best stud finder is in the bathroom above the sink.
lol Thanks for watching.
Lmao!!! I gotta use that
You said what I was thinking... But better. You stud. Lol
😂😂 these jokes come up so much at work
PF, I have a Zircon tester and built my two homes with it. It never let me down. And to me, being off on the edge of a stud by an eight of an inch isn’t a big deal. You usually just want to find center so you can hang a picture or install a shelf. Great video as always!
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
@@dcgo44r You need a stud finder to locate studs behind the Sheetrock to install shelves, hang pictures etc. I don’t understand your question; should I have memorized every stud location?
@@davidstepeck2644 sorry it wasn't a question.. Me being me.. Builders usually leave the wall marked with white strokes where the studs are located! But you are ok.. Don't mind me! Lol!
@@dcgo44r The white marks you are speaking of is joint compound which covers the screw holes in the sheetrock. However, those “marks” get painted over etc. Haw a nice day!
@@davidstepeck2644 I know.. That's the moment to hang whatever you need, while you see where the studs are! 😂
You are awesome. Reminds me of Consumer Reports in the old days.Thanks!
Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!
Great review, but hears a thought, many old homes have .75” of plaster over lath or .5” of plaster over blue board. I live in the latter and have never been able to find a stud finder that works well through thick plaster 😞😎
Walabot plaster/concrete mode might work
The Franklin T13 works great at my house. I have what is called Kal-Kote. It is a plaster type of product and cheap stud finders do not work for me.
@@AnthonySomes never seen a challenge yet my Wallabot couldn't handle.
After removing enough lath and plaster to make me consider changing careers and learning that forgotten trade just to save others from the removal process, there should be enough nails running up the studs that a good magnet can pick them up.
My in laws have a 1856 farm house. Finding the true 2x4 solid oak studs is impossible without just cutting into it. Sucks.
Ok you are freaking me out maaaan! I was just up my Mother's house talking about how awesome your videos are
and we were talking about how terrible Stud Finders are and I made a comment that it would be great if you did a head
to head test of them.... And....... LOL
Perfect timing! Hope this video helps!
@@ProjectFarm It sure is! and it sure will! :)
Thats pretty cool that your Mom can converse on stud finders. Oh wait, you sure you were both talking abou....
@@boots7859 LOL Yeah we were both talking about the type that finds wall studs.
My Mother has always been very DIY and hands on with just about anything. You can show her engine internals and she can tell you what they all are. She's also a massive tech geek. :)
Great video as usual . I personally would like to see these tests again, but with R11 bat insulation in the stud cavity. Most stud finders are effective with hollow walls, but get confused on external walls.
High quality video. Concise, well edited, and no filler. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Thanks and you are welcome!
Hey can you test electric pressure washer?
And how they hold up. I've killed a few if the smaller ones
Thanks for the suggestion.
This!
I've had a kartcher for a long while same company that power washed Mt Rushmore I like it
It's like you are reading my mind at the moment with every test you make. All the tests i have been waiting for. Premium content!!
Awesome! Thank you
I've been looking for a stud finder for so long, and you just ended my search. Thank you for such a great vid and for taking the time to do all that. extremely helpful video.
You are welcome! Glad to hear!
I have a bunch of these stud sensors: The WINNER: The Franklin T13. I got it at Costco (cannot remember how much(reasonable($25?))) It is the most reliable, intuitive and easy to operate; the 'bar' display gives a pretty good visualization of the situation. I had a situation where I was installing a socket box on a short (narrow) wall between a closet door and and a corner; I figured there was a double stud up against the door which was indicated and possibly a double stud at the corner. I used a very small drill bit to pierce every 1/4" or so, and found the T13 was correct, leaving me BARELY enough room for the breakout box. After cutting the hole with a drywall saw, I successfully installed the electric socket.
Having tried most of these with dubious results (average about 1/2"), the Franklin product is the one with some actual intelligent engineering, pretty white and lime green color scheme, and my go to tool (for finding studs).
Of course, my wife is pretty good, too...she found me (sorry)
Oh, and for when you absolutely, positively need to SEE what is going on, I use a cheap HD USB 7mm borescope cam to view on a laptop ($15 from AliExpress); has a built in variable, BRIGHT LED light in the end, and I tape the cord to a piece of thin welding wire which I can bend and manipulate while inside the wall. You only have to drill a 7mm hole (9/32") to ACTUALLY see what is in there.
Thanks for sharing.
It claims it can find live wire
Me: let me hear it
Project farm: we’re gonna test that
Me: yes👏🏼
Thanks for watching.
I am GPR certified through GSSI for concrete scanning. I wouldn’t mind seeing a concrete scanning vid BTW! I used the GSSI structurescan mini to scan drywall with and it is super accurate! It’s made for concrete up to 16 inches deep and can do a grid scan for a 3D model of the scan. You can rent them instead of purchasing them because they are very pricey! But if you were wanting the most expensive scanner it may do the trick! Love the vids!
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Great suggestion! Thank you.
Milwaukee has one, very expensive too, I would love to see that too.
@@patrickjames3321 I thought their's was discontinued years ago along wit h the bosch equivalent. I was under the impression the company that had the actual tech no longer wished to license it out to be rebranded anymore
@@gander13189 damn, it must be using radiation for detection
Another amazing video. Every single one I nerd out on how well thought out the tests are and how well they test the product in various ways. This triggers the same thing that triggered when watching mythbusters as a kid. I swear when I go to the store now I’m just pulling up these videos to see what my best value for money is. Thank you sir!
Thanks and you are welcome!
I've watched your channel grow over the years and love it. There is a test for everything, and if not you'll make one. Thank you
You are welcome!
I'd be very curious to see how walbot or similar smart phone wall scanners would do
There are different walls that I've encountered that REALLY make it challenging for the stud finders.
- thicker drywall
- 2 layers of drywall.
- lath and plaster walls.
- plaster over drywall.
I hate most stud finders that I've used, but I find the Franklin to be the most helpful for the thicker walls, though they don't sense them perfectly either.
Thanks for sharing.
Insulation behind the drywall is tricky for the stud detection.
I am honor bound to comment every time I watch one of your videos that you have the most useful channel on RUclips because you test simple tools that matter a lot and no one else does. Bless you fam. Bless u.
Thanks so much!
I love the way you present the products you're testing, it sounds like those infomercials. 👍
Thanks!
My recommendation is including a couple insulation types to see if they have any impact.
Bro, You have a shirt that says "Let's get this project underway. Now you need a shirt that says "We're gonna test that"
Great suggestion.
Id buy that shirt.
He absolutely needs to have a shirt that says that. Project Farm... "We're gonna test that!
I'll wear it while shopping at the big box stores when someone comes up to push a different sale.
Bro, haven't seen the channel? Check it out.
I’d buy one too!
Me too!
Man, I've been using stud finders wrong all my life. I can't be the only over that thought when the light beeps, I'm at the center. Now I know it's finding the edges. Very helpful video. 👌
Thanks!
Guys, can't read the directions.🙄🙄
For hanging cabinets as a profession, my team and I all use the Hansen Rare earth magnet version. Slips in your tool vest and is durable. Yes, there are times a sensor is needed. Thanks for your test.
You are welcome!
It would be hilarious if you also tested “guy who uses knuckle” vs stud finders...
lol Thanks for the suggestion.
Better get one of those "old school" carpenters for the test.
It's a valid technique if you have a good ear.
LoneWanderer360 only on wood studs w/ standard drywall, & if you're sure there's no live wires in your workspace.
or tapping your hammer on the wall.
I have both the most expensive Zircon that Lowes was selling 3 or 4 years ago (model?) and a Franklin T13. In everyday use the T13 kicks Zircon butt. But neither are any good for thicker walls, like tile or plaster, or at finding floor joist through finished floor... something I sometimes need to do. Find one that will find floor joist under a finished floor or studs through vinyl or Hardie board siding on the outside of a wall that doesn't break the bank and I would be interested! Thanks for the entertaining and informative work you do!
I agree, the Franklin is a better tool, but has it's limitations.
There is definitely something to be said for the no need for calibration if you use it very often, as I do. I will stick with my T13 until we get xray cameras.
I don't know what you define as not breaking the bank aka what your budget is... But the Bosch d-tect 120 does everything you need. It detects up to a depth of 120mm / 12 cm / slightly under 5 inches
Thanks for the video idea.
Thanks for sharing.
I have one of the Franklin ProSensor M210 and works great with AC detection/strength as well. Good job on the tests.
Thanks! Nice!
You have one of THE best channels on RUclips for the helping pros choose the right tools for our trades, I've come here multiple times so as to not get screwed over whilst buying tools. Thanksa sincere thanks!
You are welcome!
PROJECT FARM for Nobel Peace Prize and Congressional Medal of Honor, change my mind.
Damitsall I second this... the hero we didn’t know we needed
I third this
There's something about how he says "We gone test that" makes me feel good, yes reveal the lies :)
Thanks for watching!
Same here! 😆 stick it to them PF!
It almost sounds like a recording and he uses the same clip lol
Man, please don’t ever stop doing these videos.
Thanks!
Been using a zircon for a few years now when I do handyman work. Always very happy with my results.
Thanks for sharing.
Would like to see this same test done on lath and plaster walls.
Thanks for the suggestion.
That's the real test. Finding the stud in drywall is easy. Lathe and plaster is a pain in the ass. Nothing really seems to work consistently
i want a scanner to see a live wire located behind a brick wall.
@@ProjectFarm this would be great
I've lived in both kinds of houses. Unfortunate truth time: If you've got sheetrock walls, 99% of the stud finders will work instantly and identically (most people just bang on the wall). If you've got plaster and lathe, virtually everything is useless because the industry can't/won't make a cheap instrument that works on P&L.
I've actually bought that exact model DeWalt in the past (along with several others) and all of them were completely or mostly useless on plaster and lathe. I ended up needing to borrow a professional model from a friend that was specifically rated to work on plaster & lath (MSRP $320).
Project Farm.......
I wished that you had tried the “Wallabot”, it detects everything behind a wall. It’s like looking through a wall and seeing studs, electrical, pipes, etc! It’s like an X-ray, only it uses rf signals.
Great suggestion. Thank you.
@Project Farm
I misspelled it, it’s actually Walabot. Google it and it explains the process of seeing through a hard surface. Wow, they have really dropped in price! Thanks, and love your show!
Walabot fails on plaster and lathe in oooold houses. We have one at work and for testing brought it home to test. Works great on drywall though.
I'd like to see this as well...
@@markkayser426 I have an old house with lathe and plaster walls and bought a Walabot to 'see' into the walls. I was quite disappointed that it didn't work as I saw nothing in their advertising noting otherwise. I do see that they now have a model that can look into lathe and plaster walls but I haven't bought one as I still have a bitter taste in my mouth from my experience with the first one I bought. That and I have paneling over the plaster and worry that will interfere.
A buddy of mine with plaster walls said that he has had good luck using a zircon in deep scan mode to find studs, although the wire finding ability of the walabot was the biggest selling point for me initially.
I Love your work. You really put in alot of hard work into this. Great job. I would like to see you use the walabot stud finder in your next round. I am curious as to how it works and performs against the other stud finders.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
Love the walabot, shows you wires, pipes and studs all on your screen, I dedicated my old phone to it so it's always ready to go.
Thanks for the feedback.
Have that Zircon, this test makes me happy with my decision to buy it a few years ago when I bought my house. Been working well ever since
Glad to hear!
Try the L550
Best ever made!
Seems to have been replaced with the A200 which is twice the price :(
i520 is what I use, has switch for normal, deep scan, metal and ac scan
If you ever tried to fix a wire you hit because your detector didn’t find it while your client (or your wife😁) yells at you, you’ll regret not buying the bosh. I went down that road and got the german thing some years after i had others 🙈..
Oooo. Looks like another good review. Costco sells a decent stud finder.
Thank you very much!
I have an idea PF. How about checking out wood moisture checkers that go two to 4 inches deep into wood. Good day too.
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm I just hope it helps with your channel PF.
Love my Franklin. It's an older model to the T13. I so love your methodology for these videos.
Thanks!
Hey, Project Farm I would be interested in watching an ultimate ratchet showdown. Compare Mac, Matco, Snap On, Pittsburgh, Tekton, Husky, Kobalt, Milwaukee, SK, and GearWrench. Thanks for all the hard work you do!
Great suggestion! Thank you.
I thoroughly support this. However, I believe I know which will win...Snap-on followed by Harbor Freight.
I like this one!
How about the best hand file, tested on metals of different hardness.
I pretty sure he's got a video of different files.
Thanks for the video idea.
@@ProjectFarm another somewhat similar idea, wood rasps, with different types of wood of varying hardness, and maybe at the end a torture test with metals.
@@tady5720 the thought of running wood rasps across metal is cringe inducing on several different levels.
Love the work Project Farm, Consider redoing this test with a lathe and plaster wall for us Historic remodelers. Also for a easier wall mockup jut leave off the top 2-3 inches of wall board so the stud can be seen from the front side. Also could do just a blue board and plaster wall too, but very similar to this video.
Thanks! Thanks for t he suggestions.
God Bless this Man!!!!!
Sir, your reviews are the best things on RUclips.
Appreciated very much!
I've been using the Franklin T13 for a few years now. I've been very happy with it, and it's done much better than the two Zircons, a Stanley and a Black and Decker I have used in the past. I renovate houses for a living, so I use these things frequently. Thanks for the videos. I enjoy your channel a lot.
You are welcome! Glad to hear!
Great channel. You help us make good decisions.
Franklin > every other stuff finder
Would you recommend the Frankling T6 as a more affordable for option for homeowners/DIYers? Or is it better to pony up for significant benefit?
@@PongoXBongo I have a T13 and it appears the T6 is just a shorter version: T13 is THE Best.
being a carpenter all my life, even before i got into the trade.. it doesn't matter the stud finder i tried to use.. the darn things just kept beeping as soon as i picked one up.. :D
Thanks for sharing.
I don't care who you are, that's funny
You may have an over-abundance of hemato-crit. Consider donating blood more often to test.
Will be waiting for your results.
Hey there. I would love to see this refreshed. I feel like there is a lot of new tech out there that works with your phone. I’d love to see a new round of testing on this. Thank you.
Thanks for the suggestion.
4:54 I bought two Franklin T13 sensors for $10ea at a hock shop. They were still sealed in the box and work very well to find studs and ceiling joists.
Nice!
Modifying the test to include different depths of sheetrock and even lathe would be beneficial. As a remodeling contractor, a stud finder can lie to you pretty easily when scanning over different substrates. Great vid as usual my good man!
Thanks so much!
Agreed. As a contractor, I only care about finding studs. Plaster and lath is definitely the trickiest, while any drywall is child’s play. The t13 is the best and fastest for drywall, but I’ve yet to find a sensor that can reliably find studs and blocking behind 1” of plaster and lath. The gold standard would be a sensor that could find furring strips behind plaster on a masonry wall, like above a fireplace.
Sometimes the easiest is to use a thermal camera to see the studs, but I understand a $6K flir camera is out of the range of homeowners.
When you find out he is gonna be a quality standard soon
Thank you very much!
Wouldn't be surprised, I use his reviews when i'mma buy something.
I found this video after I had already bought one of the stud finders you tested. I was happy to hear you say the one I bought "would be very hard to beat for price and efficiency!"
Thanks for sharing.
As always, great review! I really enjoy all of your videos. No BS and right to the point. Well done! 👍
Thanks so much!
for 262$ USD the botch better find fracking tumors on people too, sheesh.
Seems to be worth it, if you use one a LOT.
Brand new for $219 and free shipping on eBay.
Bosch also has the D-tect 150 which retails for around $800 or more.
Very funny, I like the way you misspelled Bosch, At least I think that was intentional. ha ha.
Did I miss something with the dtect 120? It gives the same signal for copper pipe, metal pipe, pvc, and everything? If you need to know where a fire sprinkler or water line the scanner doesn't give you a different signal than a stud.
I’m curious if insulation would affect the stud finder especially if the whole stud bay is filled with spray foam.
Thanks for the video idea.
Good question. I wonder what the inductive profile of spray foam would be when compared to structural wood.
Yes. It has a DEFINATE impact on some studfinders rendering them useless depending on the machine and the density of the insulation.
@@ProjectFarm If you do insulation, please consider using Rockwool as one of your insulation products. I've found that to be about the most flush and dense insulation out there if properly installed. It can definitely play havoc with some finders!
That's why for just finding studs alone, I think the magnetics are the most reliable and easiest to use. But I'm fascinated at what they say a Walabot can do...... Hype or a real tool?
@@brianjensen5200 CCF is very dense, but not always finished flush with the stud. To get max value, CCF can have a gap between the face of the CCF and the stud face. OCF can be shaved flush with the stud, but is more porous than CCF. Some used a blown recycled material for a time that was dampened and shaved flush, but I've only seen that used in the NE some time ago. CCF if people can afford it and Rockwool are favorites today along with the more cost effective traditionals......
This is a very helpful and well put together and thorough video, thank you very much for your effort and sharing it!
Thanks and you are welcome!
@@ProjectFarm I have a zercon 45 edge finder, when I walk it on the shower wall, it light up and beeps with an arrow , but then in other spots it lights up without any arrow or beeping , how would interpret that?
You rock! From now on, whenever I need to buy something, I'm going to check your channel for a review of options.
Thanks!