I Built a See Through Wall to REALLY Test StudFinders

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  • Опубликовано: 22 апр 2022
  • We tested a bunch of stud finders to see which ones perform best on all types of walls with all types of wires, studs and pipes behind the wall. #studfinder #walabot #review
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  • @Jogwheel
    @Jogwheel 2 года назад +2526

    When I saw the title I assumed you built the wall with some transparent material... but keying out the green-painted wall with a location-matched interior photo just all sorts of brilliant. Really neat demonstration! Thanks for the work putting this together!

    • @L3x4Pr0ne
      @L3x4Pr0ne 2 года назад +37

      Yeah I gotta agree, this was kind of awesome.

    • @atheinasophiajade1044
      @atheinasophiajade1044 2 года назад +15

      I'm an electrician and very much appreciate this video!

    • @grimmyst5323
      @grimmyst5323 2 года назад +3

      I came straight to the comments to say this same thing lol

    • @adammoss2710
      @adammoss2710 2 года назад +19

      But which stud finder is safe to microwave?

    • @iambear.6526
      @iambear.6526 2 года назад +7

      @@adammoss2710 this is the real question we all want answered!

  • @amaggard14
    @amaggard14 4 месяца назад +215

    As someone that mounts TVs for a living, my advice is do not rely on just one method! First I use a normal traditional stud finder and mark what it finds with tape, then go 16 inches to either side and try to find another stud (studs are 16 inches apart from each other in most houses), then after I have a couple of studs marked I use the magnet method and go up and down where I put my tape and try to find nails in the studs, and lastly (if I am still unsure) I will push on the wall and see if it moves any or if it is firm and unmoving. Also, metal studs are uncommon in houses, but you might run into them in basements of houses or commercial buildings. Oh and lastly you don't need to worry about water pipes unless there is a bathroom or kitchen on the opposite side of the wall. If there is a bathroom on the opposite side of the wall, go slowly and be extra careful!!! If you run into something hard when drilling do not keep drilling but instead pull the drill out and if there is metal shavings on the tip of the drill bit then it is probably a pipe!

    • @Cedricket
      @Cedricket 3 месяца назад +2

      hey quick question i live on the 1st floor of a 100+ year old building and in my room there's kind of a secret a door that leads to the basement of the building which is never used. But i wanted to mount a tv next to that door on the wall and found 2-3 possible issues. the drywall is about an inch thick(i read its usually thinner). i believe the studs are metal i used a stud finder and almost every wall had "metal" all over. and im afraid there's pipes behind the wall supplying gas/water to the rest of the building? idk how likely that is but id love to know what u would do.

    • @amaggard14
      @amaggard14 3 месяца назад +15

      @@Cedricket studs have been 16 inches apart (or 24 inches but mainly 16) since the 1800s, so what I would do is get painter's tape and mark everything the stud finder picks up with a small piece of tape within 5 or so feet and you should see a pattern of studs every 16 (or 24) inches apart, and anything in between that pattern is most likely a pipe. Also if there are outlets on the wall, it's a good indicator of a stud because outlets have to be attached to studs. Check 1/2 inch to the left or right of the outlet and if you find anything then it is a stud. From there you can measure 16 inches (or 24 if it doesnt work) towards where you want the tv to go and you should find another stud. I've dealt with 1 inch drywall and its not really an issue finding the studs until it is 2+ inches which is rare. If it is metal studs, you will need 1/4 inch toggle bolts (avoid the collapsible ones and get the reusable ones) and a 1/4 inch drill bit, 3/8 inch drill bit, and a 1/2 inch drill bit. Use the 1/4 inch as a pilot bit and step up the sizes up to 1/2 inch. Also it shouldn't be super difficult to drill into the metal studs, but if it is very difficult then it might be a pipe! It should be possible to safely mount a tv there if you follow all my steps. Best of luck!

    • @Cedricket
      @Cedricket 3 месяца назад +1

      @@amaggard14 Thank you so much for the feedback really appreciate it. I’ll likely follow those steps as well as get an endoscope to double check

    • @tomsides
      @tomsides 3 месяца назад +1

      Metal studies are predominant in high humidity areas of the US, like Florida. Millions of home built in the last 40 years with them.

    • @amaggard14
      @amaggard14 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tomsides Good to know. I live in Oklahoma and the only time I have seen them used here are in commercial buildings and basements.

  • @8amonas
    @8amonas Год назад +701

    Stud finders are much more horrifying than I expected, imagine trying to install a shelf and you end up drilling into a gas pipe 💀

    • @filblo503
      @filblo503 4 месяца назад +30

      Ah the joys of being european and not having to worry about gass pipes

    • @UriahTronics
      @UriahTronics 4 месяца назад +48

      ​@@filblo503still have to worry about water pipes.

    • @praints
      @praints 4 месяца назад

      the amount of times my uncle drilled into a water pipe and sewage pipe I cant count@@filblo503

    • @Charlie_the_dog
      @Charlie_the_dog 3 месяца назад +4

      @@UriahTronics that's not nearly as bad tho

    • @amamsurri5454
      @amamsurri5454 3 месяца назад

      or just an American with no gas in the house.@@filblo503

  • @itsgabegutierrez
    @itsgabegutierrez 2 года назад +753

    This is a cool. But since you built the wall you may be somewhat influenced to pause to get the stud finders to detect something. It would be really cool if one person built the wall and another person who didn't know the location of the studs tested the stud finders. Love the green wall effect though!

    • @DennisMathias
      @DennisMathias 2 года назад +66

      Yea, we need a double blind study. Good idea.

    • @Horseshoecrabwarrior
      @Horseshoecrabwarrior 2 года назад +80

      That would be better, but these results are still useful for comparative purposes, as his bias seems to be in favor of the wall, and not any particular device

    • @SirRebrl
      @SirRebrl Год назад +47

      With someone who doesn't know the interior of the wall, the accuracy of the devices can only be analyzed after the fact with a blind pass.
      Since he knows the interior of the wall, he was able to give multiple passes over high-value areas to specifically check the (in)consistency of the devices. He could give them every opportunity to succeed and still found very questionable results, emphasizing how little some devices can really be trusted.
      A blind pass with the devices would be more desirable if the devices looked particularly impressive in this demonstration, but by and large the results didn't favor them very well.

    • @drats1279
      @drats1279 11 месяцев назад +8

      Why don't you build our own wall and have someone conduct similar tests or are you just a couch complainer and not a doer?

    • @keithbranning9832
      @keithbranning9832 7 месяцев назад

      😂😂😂

  • @DarrenOverby
    @DarrenOverby 5 месяцев назад +112

    What a cool idea for green screen use! The thermal camera was something I hadn't thought of too. One thing not mentioned in the video is the need for situational awareness. If possible, it pays to look in all unfinished areas (i.e. attics and basements) and observe visual clues (stoves, heating ducts, etc.) to develop theories about where services (pipes, wires and ducts) might be located. This knowledge combined with these crude instruments will help you make decisions about where to cut.

  • @theindooroutdoorsman
    @theindooroutdoorsman 4 месяца назад +98

    Something I learned in trade school that greatly improved the accuracy of a $20 stud finder.
    Take the year the home was built, determine what the distance between studs was that year. Start in a corner where you know there's a stud, and measure the interval out. Then verify with the stud finder.
    It isn't 100%, but it really makes it easier to tell if it found a stud, or something like a water or gas line.

    • @YKSGuy
      @YKSGuy Месяц назад +6

      You don't even need to start in a corner, just find 3 (with a stud finder) on any wall and if they are the correct distance you are good. Generally when you are hanging something that should be possible even if you are on a ladder.

  • @juanb201
    @juanb201 Год назад +168

    0:00 intro
    0:44 Magnet pal
    3:32 StudPop
    5:42 Zircon hd55
    7:58 Zircon A250C
    12:28 Zircon Metalliscanner
    14:04 Franklin stud finder
    17:33 Wallabot DIY 2

    • @RandallStephens397
      @RandallStephens397 8 месяцев назад +12

      you forgot:
      13:55 obligatory dad joke

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia 5 месяцев назад +1

      Not all heroes wear capes! Thank you for your service!

  • @dingdingdingdiiiiing
    @dingdingdingdiiiiing 2 года назад +136

    Wallabot is on to something. A couple years of development, better components, maybe twice the price and we actually might get a "see through walls" stud finder.

    • @Kingphotosonline
      @Kingphotosonline 5 месяцев назад +15

      I have one. It sucks

    • @littlejackalo5326
      @littlejackalo5326 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@@Kingphotosonlinehence everything the op said. Derrrp

    • @pyromethious
      @pyromethious Месяц назад

      Walabot has a pro mode as it were where it shows you the raw data that can even let you see living things behind the wall.

    • @cdoublejj
      @cdoublejj 2 дня назад

      A year before this video they started selling wall scanners. Makita and Bosch seem to the most popular or the ones I see the most.

  • @Harleyguy03
    @Harleyguy03 5 месяцев назад +39

    Using a green wall/screen to demonstrate the various stud finders was brilliant! The best video I've seen on stud finders so far.....I have lath and plaster which is always a challange....subcribed.

  • @scottsmith4145
    @scottsmith4145 11 месяцев назад +24

    I have the zircon and its worked great for me. You have to calibrate on a spot you KNOW doesnt have anything behind it per the instructions. It works well.

  • @mackenzieclancy959
    @mackenzieclancy959 2 года назад +98

    Recently did some rewiring in an old house with lath and plaster. The stud finder was almost useless, I went out and got an endoscope. It quickly proved to be an absolutely necessary tool

    • @gg-gn3re
      @gg-gn3re 6 месяцев назад +6

      can get a USB webcamera that is like the scope camera for $2 fyi to anyone else. just plug into laptop or android phone etc

    • @LarryMayvid
      @LarryMayvid 4 месяца назад

      ​@@gg-gn3reAny chance you could share a link to a good one? Thanks!

    • @ColonelSandersLite
      @ColonelSandersLite 4 месяца назад +4

      Spent a lot of time renovating victorian houses with plaster and lathe walls. None of the stud finders on the market at the time worked for crap with it. From this video, it doesn't look like that has changed. We didn't have those little cameras either.
      There's a technique to it though. Basically, you move along the wall tapping with your knuckles (or maybe a tacking hammer or something) and you listen for the pitch change. You want to do it at several different heights to figure your lines.
      Having said that, even though it seems simple in principle, there's definitely a learned skill to it. Until you really get a feel for it, you have to expect a lot of missing and false positives. You also have to be aware of the existence of things like fire breaks and stuff like that. Also, you have to know that you can't expect anything in those houses to actually be on 16" centers. Expect the plaster to be thicker and harder to read towards the bottom than they are top. When they put it on there, it would creep its way downwards while it was drying because of gravity.
      You know what's nice though? Once you have the technique down on plaster and lathe, doing it on drywall in a modern construction is a breeze.

    • @pyromethious
      @pyromethious Месяц назад +1

      @@ColonelSandersLiteknocking for studs is definitely the classic way to go, but sometimes, even with simple wooden studs, that just doesn't do, so out come the tools. Still the cheapest tool to start with that's somewhat accurate.

  • @devKazuto
    @devKazuto 4 месяца назад +7

    This makes me very happy that the walls in Germany are made out of stone and everything inside the wall like cables, pipes etc have designated zones called "Installationszonen" that are up to 45 cm from each side so that you can't drill into them by accident. Our installation either comes from the top if the outlet is above the center or from below if the outlet is below the center, but it would never go from the top all the way to the bottom or even go horizontally in the middle of the wall, except if outlets are directly next to each other.

  • @russellgeisthardt9828
    @russellgeisthardt9828 2 года назад +22

    For the cheap Zircon, if you start out on top of a stud and move off of it, it beeps at you. This is what happened since you started on top of the blocking. You need to release the button and try again

    • @DAMusic-qu2ec
      @DAMusic-qu2ec 12 дней назад +2

      True. This guy didn’t read the directions.

  • @DetroitBORG
    @DetroitBORG 4 месяца назад +105

    The best tool in this case is tapping your knuckle on the wall, and it's free!

    • @monroealie4030
      @monroealie4030 3 месяца назад +3

      Works like a charm.😏

    • @perrinromney4555
      @perrinromney4555 2 месяца назад +3

      I used to think this until I found the magnets. Beats knuckle tapping almost every time.

    • @Brendan3332
      @Brendan3332 Месяц назад

      Until you hit a wire

  • @j.frankparnell3087
    @j.frankparnell3087 Год назад +22

    Very creative test set up and executed well. One thing I've noticed with a number of RUclips stud finder tests is that many of them move the device only in one direction and then say it is inaccurate when it doesn't indicate "coming off" the stud precisely. Every stud finder I've ever used (admittedly only 3 or 4) all state in the instructions to move in one direction to find an edge and then to lift and move in the opposite direction to find the other edge.

  • @PumpkinDog33
    @PumpkinDog33 2 года назад +9

    The "Green screen" on the zircon was actually really cool for showing how accurate it was.

  • @cardude1957
    @cardude1957 4 месяца назад +13

    I dig the floating outlet the entire time. Also good thinking with the endoscope. If you have a baseboard on your wall, you could just take it off, drill some small holes behind it if necessary, and see your entire wall.

  • @stevenvachon9745
    @stevenvachon9745 2 года назад +66

    As someone who uses a stud finder daily I find the Franklin the most reliable, quickest, durable and cost effective. Short of an expensive scanner, it does find every stud but you need to have some common sense when using it. Btw, it works better if you push the button first then touch the wall. After you find one stud, touch it again appx 16"over while holding the button on and boom, there's you next stud. You can mark an entire wall in seconds.

    • @alextheonewarrior
      @alextheonewarrior 5 месяцев назад +2

      I mark the entire wall in seconds with a magnet lmao. Every professional I see uses magnets.

    • @braybraycooldude1238
      @braybraycooldude1238 5 месяцев назад +4

      ​@alextheonewarrior what happens if the nails/screws aren't centered on the stud? It's gonna throw everything off

    • @psyience3213
      @psyience3213 5 месяцев назад +1

      As someone who use one almost every day, I have the same cheap one he does and it works great. He's also using it incorrectly in the video.

    • @psyience3213
      @psyience3213 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@alextheonewarrior One day there will be a pipe where you thought a stud was and you better hope it's not a self tapper.

    • @littlejackalo5326
      @littlejackalo5326 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@@psyience3213LOL if you can't tell the difference between a screw head 1/16" under the surface and a cast iron pipe that's 2" under the surface, you shouldn't be doing the work. A screw has a SINGLE point of attraction, not an entire line of attraction. Didn't think that one out, huh? Plus, pipes wouldn't like up with the rest of the layout.

  • @kissisagod
    @kissisagod 5 месяцев назад +39

    Thermal camera works great but a simpler solution for most modern homes might be to find an outlet take the cover off figure out which side of the stud the outlet is on and measure for your stud layout

    • @TKC_
      @TKC_ 4 месяца назад

      Generally I’m going to know if a box is against a studs then I usually use a stud finder with a tape backcheck. It’s not bad to figure out a pipe.

    • @glenjamindle
      @glenjamindle 4 месяца назад

      No need to pull the cover off. Just knock on the wall.

    • @Shibby7634
      @Shibby7634 2 месяца назад

      If the home is anything like my brother's new construction, you can count of half of the studs to be bowed off center significantly lmao. And from the poor framing of the up and coming houses in the same neighborhood, you're also counting on them actually following layout properly. An unskilled apprentice in a rush from his boss may not be so reliable...
      These are worst case scenarios, and likely the minority of cases, but have seen them with my own eyes. Hopefully luck is on the homeowners side.
      Now if Perkins Builder Brothers built my house, then I'm sure I could rely on layout AND have hours of footage of the framing to look back on at anytime 😅

  • @boowiebear
    @boowiebear 2 года назад +9

    This video summed up my entire experience with stud finders and why I just use a super strong magnet now. Thank you, great execution on the video!

  • @dorhocyn3
    @dorhocyn3 2 года назад +16

    I’ve been using those Franklin type for years and they are absolutely fantastic still. At one point you’re running its sensors over a horizontal block.

    • @Chris.Rhodes
      @Chris.Rhodes 2 года назад +1

      I bought the Hart Professional stud finder, with electrical sensors to tell you there are live wires. It was $30 and it's made by Franklin, I use it the most, and it was a good price. When you're searching for studs, you have to scan multiple times, in multiple spots. I've never been able to just slide and go. Plus I prefer to double check everything.

    • @MrPhames
      @MrPhames 2 года назад +4

      "What is this?" It's the horizontal stud, you dope! Not a dope. But yeah, maybe upon review you should add some text that says you might have fubbed that part. Went back and performed it again, for science sake. It makes it a kinda unfair review on 2 of the devices.

    • @davefink2326
      @davefink2326 2 года назад

      @@MrPhames Yes, the horizontal fire brake studs were installed but they were never really part of the story. I’m like you point out, confused measurements from a couple of the devices

  • @sfasfads
    @sfasfads 2 года назад +9

    I love the Franklin style LED strips. You of course pair the readings with your knowledge of framing like 16" or 24" layout, studs by outlets, king studs. I do cabinets, tvs, artwork, etc. It takes the guesswork out and no wasted time tapping the wall with my knuckles.

  • @tinman7249
    @tinman7249 6 месяцев назад +5

    Excellent work! A lot of the stud finder videos were done with half a wall. Meaning the opposite side is not covered with drywall. And many stud finder were performing well because its signal does not bounce back. This video did it right.

  • @Heraclitean
    @Heraclitean 2 года назад +3

    What a great video. All the prep you put into it paid off. Very informative.

  • @EOE808
    @EOE808 Год назад +10

    Man this is one of the clever/smart/effective tutorials I've ever seen. Truly didn't expect such a great comparison. Thanks so much! It was a pleasure to watch and very helpful. I have the A250 So it was nice to see it in action

  • @nickkropat8857
    @nickkropat8857 2 года назад +36

    Wow this was SUCH a cool way to show your testing. Kudos for taking the time to put this together and to present it in such an interesting way

  • @nickrao5086
    @nickrao5086 2 года назад +7

    The stud finder joke is so bad! I do it every time I use a stud finder! 😆 Great video!

    • @erickapler4707
      @erickapler4707 2 года назад +3

      All men everywhere have used that joke since the beginning of time. Pretty sure Moses even during arc construction. It's weirder if you DON'T make the joke

    • @shaedlaer
      @shaedlaer Месяц назад +1

      Well, that's the only stud you're 100% sure is in the room, so how else would you test it? ;)

  • @outlet6989
    @outlet6989 2 года назад +17

    Using your different techniques is the way to do this job. Price should be of no concern when you factor in the cost to repair any damage. The endoscope is how I do stud finding as it shows me what is ACTUALLY in the wall. It's also great for checking water drain pipes, sinks, utility tubs, sewer pipes, e.t.c. I also taped a cloth ruler to the endoscope to help me determine how far the scope is into the wall. As your video shows, the stud finders are a hit-or-miss proposition. I push a very sharp and robust sewing machine needle, with the depth of the drywall marked, into the wall to confirm the stud's location.

    • @vvsmixing
      @vvsmixing 8 месяцев назад

      nice trick

    • @socratese5
      @socratese5 11 дней назад

      But how do you see all the way across the wall don’t the studs and other things get in the way? Do you have to drill multiple holes in the wall to look with the endoscope?

    • @outlet6989
      @outlet6989 11 дней назад

      @@socratese5 Thanks for your reply. I always enjoy reading them. My answer is a yes or no one. It all depends on where I want to look. Sometimes it's quite obvious where I should put the endoscope, such as checking a sewage line. Other times I have to get constrictive and figure the best way to use the tool. If I want to see inside a wall, I might have to remove the baseboard and make a small hole for the scope. If I have access to the wall inside an attic I look to see if an electric wire goes near where I want to look, I use its hole. The camera lens is about a quarter inch in size. If you have to drill a hole it's pretty ease to patch. I hope my reply helps you when using the endoscope.

  • @jhoodfysh
    @jhoodfysh 2 года назад +9

    Thanks Nils, I have lathe and plaster walls and had high hopes that one would work. I will have to rely on electrical install location as my best guide. Your videos are very good, thank you.

    • @agcons
      @agcons 2 года назад +3

      Same here. I bought a $30 electric one shortly after buying my 90-year-old house and it's useless. It shrieks its head off constantly, because apparently the entire wall is a stud and chock full of wiring. The good old "knock" test has proven to be more reliable.

    • @lostintranslation3919
      @lostintranslation3919 2 года назад

      Not true. The stud pop worked perfectly on L&P.

  • @TheNewGreenIsBlue
    @TheNewGreenIsBlue 3 месяца назад +1

    This is a genius idea! Had to be careful to get the angles right but fantastic job and prep to make this! TY!

  • @MooreDick
    @MooreDick 2 года назад +4

    The thermal imaging seemed to be the best for a quick view and at least a good starting point :) this was a simple/advanced video

  • @davidlyons7238
    @davidlyons7238 2 года назад +2

    Very well done. Really appreciate the good job. Answered a lot of my questions. Thank you.

  • @zombieshelterstudio925
    @zombieshelterstudio925 7 месяцев назад +1

    Very helpful and honest unlike many reviews that are basically a biased opinion to sell certain products.

  • @brianb9410
    @brianb9410 8 месяцев назад +3

    Interesting video. I have been using the cheap Zircon for several years and have learned to interpret it’s signals reliably. Sometimes you need to cover areas above and below the place you are interested. Metal studs always show quite wide but not as wide as a double wood stud. I still get fooled once in a while.

  • @TKC_
    @TKC_ 4 месяца назад +2

    You gave that zircon m40 a bad wrap on plaster. I live in a plaster house and have 11 years experience finding studs in it. It is by far the best (only in plaster and lathe walls).
    Firstly when you turn it on it calibrates. So you must hold it in the same orientation you plan to sweep away from the wall for max sensitivity. If you find a stud but it’s wide like the metal stud. Recalibrate where you guess the metal stud edge is. This calibrates it to be less sensitive.
    Second the red leds is fine it doesn’t need to beep. It’s just an indicator on strength of signal.
    Third you were using the end of the blue bar. That’s spot mode. Hold the long edge vertically to the wall and sweep side to side. Then you get multiple nails at once
    For more signal and a wider sweep.
    The end bit is useful to pinpoint a screw in drywall. If you keep recalibrating as you get close to the head you can literally nail the center of the screw dig out the Phillips head and pull it out.

  • @smackdabinu5459
    @smackdabinu5459 2 года назад +25

    Wow, you did a great job on this video! It is thorough,comprehensive, and informative. I install home and commercial surround sound systems and video systems. When you do it, for other people, in all types of building constructions you quickly realize that you can’t make mistakes about where to mount a component or snake wires. A lot of probing and thought has to be done to insure that you don’t drill into a pipe,wire,vapor barrier etc…. So I really appreciate your approach to the different scenarios in this video.

    • @Dirtyharry70585
      @Dirtyharry70585 2 года назад

      I bought a cheap color cable camera at RuralKing $70 mark down to $16! Cable 1 m some tips attachments. 1/4” hole or open a switch box and knock out box plug.

    • @rjbell4
      @rjbell4 2 года назад

      @Smackdabinu, so what techniques do you use?

    • @matthewc4503
      @matthewc4503 2 года назад

      may I ask what kind of stud finder you use (if that is the method you use)?

    • @smackdabinu5459
      @smackdabinu5459 2 года назад +1

      @@matthewc4503 I rarely ever use a stud finder now. When I do it’s the standard Home Depot basic type. I prefer to probe, in the wall surface, with 17” batting insulation rods. The kind used, generally in basements, to hold up the insulation. That way I can feel what type of material is in the wall. The hole is 1/8” and easily covered with what I’m installing.

    • @matthewc4503
      @matthewc4503 2 года назад

      @@smackdabinu5459 gotcha! Sounds like you have a solid method that works well for ya--keep up the good work lol

  • @scorpio6587
    @scorpio6587 2 года назад +6

    Best demonstration I have seen.

  • @DA-zh9gi
    @DA-zh9gi 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for doing this. I bought a walabot a few years ago and never set it up but after seeing your demo, I am going to dust it off and hook it up to my phone.

  • @zb9795
    @zb9795 2 года назад +91

    Pro Tip: Find a stud with a detector, then measure off 16" in both directions. You should find studs there too if you're in the middle of a wall. If you do, your original find is most likely a stud.

    • @christophersidoti7350
      @christophersidoti7350 2 года назад +8

      Yeah, I mean stud finders are guides. I don’t know why he’s droning on about false positives. I would want to know if there is something there. I can usually figure out what it is.

    • @DjSpike0341
      @DjSpike0341 2 года назад +28

      @@christophersidoti7350 I think this is more geared towards people that don't have much experience with this sort of stuff and will rely heavily on the tools to do their job. Think of someone with no construction experience trying to hang a TV, picture, or towel rack. That's how it came across to me at least.

    • @adamdodski3627
      @adamdodski3627 2 года назад +12

      @@DjSpike0341 i agree. I do construction from framing to trim and I think this is more about hanging a TV with 3/8 bolt and hitting a gas or water supply.
      And yeah right that you can go into any house and hit 16 on center. Lol maybe brand new construction homes but nah man I find studs all over the place

    • @allangibson2408
      @allangibson2408 2 года назад +9

      Assuming that you are dealing with 16” stud centres. In old houses you need to be prepared for surprises (like boxed in door frames or windows, particularly in houses that have been extended).

    • @Bobis32
      @Bobis32 Год назад

      @@allangibson2408 16-24 inches center to center and they should be at regular intervals

  • @MonokloDraw
    @MonokloDraw 2 года назад +45

    Did not expect to find a clever editing trick in my diy videos. Lovely trick. If you ever need to do this again, you can improve on it by using tracking markers. ideally you would place markers on both the unfinished wall and the finished wall. Makes lining up the images much easier (the process can even be automated). No need to go for the fancy stuff regular crosshair stickers would do the trick. You'd think the drywalls edges would be good enough but they are not always in frame. You need all 4 edges for a proper alignement on both axis. I could talk about properly lighting your green screen so you are easier to key out but honestly theres no benefit to accuracy. Great job and a clever use of movie magic for demo purposes.

    • @potatosordfighter666
      @potatosordfighter666 4 месяца назад +3

      If he never moved the wall or the camera while building it and filming the tests, then the accuracy should always be 100%. Both of them should align naturally, with no work needed.

  • @steve32221
    @steve32221 2 года назад +11

    I didn’t even get 2 minutes in before I had to commend you for the time and effort you took to do these tests! Great job.

  • @dolfinwriter5389
    @dolfinwriter5389 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is an amazing demonstration and appears to be unbiased toward hawking one brand over the others. I have had only Zircon stud finders for better than 20 years and I get exceptionally frustrated with their bipolar behavior of both false negatives and false positives, and then with the way they seem to sometimes just get frustrated and start beeping on anything.
    I just bought one of the Franklin sensors shown here and have found it to be a much better stud finder and also helps me ID where cables are. But still not perfect. I don't know why, but I had not thought of the endoscope. I have an inexpensive one from Harbor Freight and I'll have to try that to trace out a cable run I'm looking for to run an additional circuit to our master bathroom to power a heater. Hopefully then I can avoid tearing apart a whole wall and just have to patch some small holes.
    Too bad it can't go in my attic for me and relocate a ceiling fan box that was mounted wrong (too high and not flush with the sheetrock ceiling) during original construction!

  • @Legolad
    @Legolad 2 года назад +3

    This is such an excellent and well thought out video! Thanks!

  • @johnflaherty9945
    @johnflaherty9945 Год назад +1

    By Far... the best WELL thought out video, with explanation. This blows away other videos on creativity.. TY.. i will subscribe

  • @byfunkyoid2917
    @byfunkyoid2917 2 года назад +1

    Magnet seems the best to me. Never thought of using on. Thanks for this, a great video.

  • @fatroberto3012
    @fatroberto3012 2 месяца назад +1

    Great idea for a video. It also confirms everything I believe about "stud finders"!

  • @sammottley8462
    @sammottley8462 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for putting this together. Had a stud finder see the edge of the two ends of dry wall thought it was a fire block cut a hole for no reason to get through the edge of the dry wall. That stud finder found the landfill to say the least. Just wish there was a good option that wasn't 1k

  • @usna98
    @usna98 2 года назад +3

    Great video...thanks for all the work that went into this one.

  • @ajsyedali7633
    @ajsyedali7633 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is so awesome. Thanks for doing this

  • @suzithewitch
    @suzithewitch 5 месяцев назад

    This green wall effect is awesome! You are a genius!

  • @capti443
    @capti443 Год назад +3

    Great job! As you pointed out, all tools have their limitations - it’s important to know what they are to get the best results and interpret them. As someone who built our house, one of the best things I did was take photographs of every wall BEFORE the sheetrock went up. That way you can pull up the pictures and see where all the wires, pipes, duct work, and other things are inside. This has paid off HUGE dividends for me over the nine years we’ve been in our new home for performing minor renovations, some wiring, some plumbing, and other work that I do.

  • @gadworx2
    @gadworx2 3 месяца назад

    Excellent video...also, very really and impressive with the "invisible wall"!

  • @quintrahaman
    @quintrahaman 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the thorough evaluation. I purchased the Walabot 2 via your link.

  • @3ffrige
    @3ffrige 4 месяца назад

    I’m just here because I saw a picture of the Wallabot tool. Anyway, I was absolutely floored at your demonstration with the green paint. One of the best demonstrations of stud finders on RUclips yet.
    Arguably, the best stud finder in my experience is the Wallabot. The code is open source, and has worked reliably for me. My only gripe about it is when it gets confused and shows the wire or pipe as sidewards.
    A number of things can be done to it which will make it much much better, like differentiating the difference between a pipe and a wire, as well as showing actual widths of ductwork, pipes, cables, etc. with the implementation of AI, all of that is possible

  • @69pacecar
    @69pacecar 2 года назад

    That was a great setup. Really cool! Nice job. Subscribed and liked!

  • @gabrielchirino-melgarejo4313
    @gabrielchirino-melgarejo4313 4 месяца назад

    Wow this was such a thro review absolutely great. Love it keep it up man

  • @RsDefcon
    @RsDefcon 2 года назад +1

    Wow great video. The effort you put in really shows.

  • @Im_Ninooo
    @Im_Ninooo 10 месяцев назад

    this is very well edited and pretty informative!

  • @csl9495
    @csl9495 11 месяцев назад

    Omg this video is so good and helpful. I needed a video specific for plaster and lath.
    I accidentally bought a zircon100 (non multiscan), and was about to but the 200, but after seeing this review I don't know of I want to buy any of these haha.

  • @DjSpike0341
    @DjSpike0341 2 года назад +1

    I like the backgrounds you used when talking because you had this nice picture with an outlet floating across it 🤣

  • @psyience3213
    @psyience3213 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have that same exact stud finder and I've found it to be excellent. You have to really make a few passes and verify with multiple hits but that's because like when you first started you were on the cat so it couldn't tell when a stud started. They can get a little confused, and they have two settings, sometimes you have to switch between the two.
    It's also not meant to be used the way you're using it. It's meant to find the edge of the stud from an open bay. When you find the edge you're supposed to stop, move over past the other edge and come back that way. It always helps to read the manual.

  • @CountSmackula333
    @CountSmackula333 Месяц назад

    I’ve only ever had cheaper stud finders and unfortunately, usually end up resorting to the knock method which has been more accurate than my finder. This gives me a couple different products to try out so that’s great!

  • @13thCharacter
    @13thCharacter 29 дней назад

    What I'm taking away from this is to use multiple methods to verify your findings. Getting one of those little magnet ones for sure.
    I have one of the $20 zircon ones. As other ppl have mentioned, you need to start it on somewhere that doesn't have a stud and then move over. If you start on a stud it'll error because you're moving from more to less dense. Takes some getting used to but it has worked well for me. It does help to already know what's in my walls from building them.

  • @ShanePresleyC
    @ShanePresleyC 2 года назад

    Wow! Excellent, comprehensive video!

  • @microcolonel
    @microcolonel 2 года назад +7

    Such a cool production trick, great idea, and very informative! :+ )
    For home stuff, I've had good luck using my ears and knocking on the wall to find studs. Never got it wrong... knock on wood. ;+ )

  • @odmcclintic
    @odmcclintic 4 месяца назад

    I did not know I needed this video! Thank you!

  • @grn9209
    @grn9209 2 года назад +1

    Awesome intricate setup 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @chorton53
    @chorton53 Месяц назад

    This is a fantastic video ! Thanks for this.

  • @pyromethious
    @pyromethious Месяц назад

    When looking for a new stud finder I did a ton of research on what exists, but really it was randomly seeing the Walabot in a store. From there I looked into it and was sold. Builders like to tease me over it, but I can see when they've not installed a stud straight along with the true path of wiring. The Walabot also has a pro mode that just shows the raw data it tries to interpret. This lets you see even living things inside the wall. I'm not sure it was done during the testing, but the calibration of the unit must be done for each type of wall so that it can gauge the depth / thickness better. If that wasn't done during the testing, then that could help explain any discrepancy in the results when changing wall type.

  • @ponchantos
    @ponchantos Год назад

    Amazing demo. I'm just about to buy a stud finder for my house

  • @kdeuler
    @kdeuler 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for vid. What I'd really like is a device that finds studs through stucco (outside of house).

  • @eightballsidepocket
    @eightballsidepocket Месяц назад

    My favorite is still a basic electronic stud finder to get in the ballpark and a plunge needle type finder to find homeplate. You might end up with lots of pinholes if the stud is tricky but paint fills them easily.

  • @ojotabe3
    @ojotabe3 5 месяцев назад

    Very interesting technique to display the interior of the wall

  • @yourmasterrenovator86
    @yourmasterrenovator86 5 месяцев назад

    Amazing demonstration! Ir was like Si-Fi 👍 👍👍

  • @YKSGuy
    @YKSGuy Месяц назад +1

    Many of those units require you to start in an empty section of wall and then continue if you read the directions, often printed on them. They self calibrate when you hold the button as per the directions.. Even the bar LED one will tend to work well if you find an empty spot when you start.
    It was also clear a few times you were going over the horizontal fire breaks / supports if you had gone up or down it would have been easy to figure out what was there even with the dumber tools.

  • @MasterThief117
    @MasterThief117 Месяц назад

    This is honestly a bit reassuring since I always thought that I was just really bad at using stud finders. Turns out they all suck under most circumstances.
    Also, the idea for using a green screen was brilliant!

  • @RagnarRipper
    @RagnarRipper 4 месяца назад

    That was insanely cool to see and so clever, how you got the see through wall.

  • @AppleKid
    @AppleKid 2 года назад +1

    Dude this video is totally Awesome! Thanks man.

  • @woodstream6137
    @woodstream6137 11 месяцев назад

    Genius idea for video content. I've been debating buying the walabot 2 and will use your link, plus it's $20 cheaper than Amazon.

  • @tempesttube
    @tempesttube 2 года назад +27

    The beeping of the Zircon happens if you start on a stud (you happened to start on the blocking) and move away from it. It’s basically telling you to start from a different spot and try again. The blocking is also why you got weird readings on the one that shows the width.
    It would be nice if you clarified that the stud finders are really just obstruction detectors, despite the name, rather than calling it a false positive when it’s not a stud, which gives the impression that there’s something wrong with the device. I think that it’s more useful to state that not everything that’s detected is a stud, so it’s import to use other methods to confirm it.

    • @A._.A._.
      @A._.A._. 9 месяцев назад +1

      They were false positives though, so yes there's something wrong with those stud finders.

    • @_PatrickO
      @_PatrickO 7 месяцев назад +2

      Come on, people call them stud finders. They expect them to detect studs, not gas pipes.

  • @Birdmam2021
    @Birdmam2021 4 месяца назад

    Genius green screen use. One suggestion, make an overlay with each layer so when you are talking about the shiplap you could alternate opacity to show the magnet hitting the brads vs studs

  • @heylolp9
    @heylolp9 4 месяца назад

    I don't know why this got recommended to me, BUT
    This was a really well made Video both production and information wise
    I don't have any interest in handiwork myself rn, but I feel i actually learned something about what to look for in stud finders in case i do want to do some stuff

  • @enricosciullo6871
    @enricosciullo6871 5 месяцев назад

    Damm, this is an excellent video.. Thank you for putting all the time and effort into this video..

  • @redwinmedia
    @redwinmedia 3 месяца назад

    Using the Zircons is a bit of an art. I've used them for decades. You're right, far from perfect. But when you get the hang of scanning back and forth, you'll do fine.

  • @heruvey87
    @heruvey87 6 месяцев назад

    Fantastic video, im sold on the wallabot tbh, ill use a magnet to find and double check with the wallabot.

  • @vvsmixing
    @vvsmixing 8 месяцев назад

    always always knows where your shutoffs are. I learned the hard way when I drilled into a sprinkler pipe my franklin sensor told me was a stud.

  • @notkevinacid
    @notkevinacid 11 дней назад +1

    i'm high as hell dude, i have no idea how i got here, but now i know more about stud finders so i guess it's all good.

  • @martin29976
    @martin29976 2 года назад +1

    Best use of green screen ever. Ever!

  • @lcjlcj2739
    @lcjlcj2739 Год назад

    Wonderful! The best stud finder video I’ve ever watched!!!! This video should bring you much subscribers I guess

  • @FabiansLab
    @FabiansLab 2 года назад

    super awesome use of a green screen. Brilliant idea

  • @PumpkinDog33
    @PumpkinDog33 2 года назад

    ahhhhhhhhhh, interesting concept! really creative use of editing.

  • @fredmayes8930
    @fredmayes8930 2 года назад +3

    Great idea using the green screen

  • @hw8621
    @hw8621 2 месяца назад

    Really good video. On the Wallbot I believe that you might have needed to recalibrate when the wall thickness is different or if moving to different materials. Like for example wallboard to shiplap or plaster to drywall. I the recalibration helps the software to sense and adjust to a different thickness.

  • @ksspang
    @ksspang 2 года назад

    really col idea I love the implementation, very helpful video

  • @guesswork
    @guesswork 11 дней назад

    Very clever video idea.
    Yeah that zircon has always been the most inconsistent tool I've ever had. You think you get something and then go back and it's gone.

  • @darkinertia2
    @darkinertia2 5 месяцев назад

    8:31 i was about to say wow thats an amazing stud finder if it could see right through the wall lol

  • @BoberFett
    @BoberFett 2 месяца назад

    This is one of the coolest uses of green screen, awesome video and great test. I have an older house with lathe and plaster, and I've gotten tired of hunting for studs.
    Question on the Walabot, did you recalibrate at every type of wall section?

  • @redwinmedia
    @redwinmedia 3 месяца назад +1

    @LRN2DIY When your stud finder is blinking, don't panic like at 6:04 and 15:09. It's telling you you've gone from thick to thin (started over wood, then off). In your case, you're over fireblock and you actually got the expected result. You simply release the triggers, move over and scan the other way.

  • @RubenSOchoa
    @RubenSOchoa 4 месяца назад

    lol that stud finder with the green screen had me thinking it was amazing

  • @LiveInOC
    @LiveInOC Год назад

    I double check the stud finder result by knocking around the area with my hand to see if there’s a difference in sound and if it feels more solid in that area