After the collapse of the USSR , nations surely have the right , to self determination, stay neutral , join the eu , join nato , or re align themselves with Russia . Neutrality would not guarantee Russia not invading them .
@@arthurtrommel1438 He's not a propagandist. He is a realist. The West and Russia need a dose of realism. I noticed just recently (the last month of so) that a British Parliamentarian suggested that Russia and Ukraine be offered a pathway to joining NATO in exchange for stopping the war and returning back to the 1991 borders. I believe this is what Trump has on mind if he returns to the Whitehouse in Jan 2025 with his fellow business man, Vivek Ramswamy, as his wingman. However, the Party of Blood and Death is going to fight him every step of the way to maintain the regime of fear and war so they can keep the money flowing into the personal accounts. This antagonism started with the Obama Administration, and has been the sole domain of the Party of Blood and Death ever since. I tried to call it out as it was coalescing, but was shut down by the Main Stream Media. I am in ideological opposition to my own Church as they own some of the mass media outlets that were censoring. Isn't it better to take a stand against China with Russia in our ranks, than against Russia and China? Of course, with the latter option, there is more blood and death, so anyone with half a brain can see that Trump is the last, best option, to AVOID World War 3.
The debate took place on April 10, 2015 featuring Vladimir Pozner and retired Dr. Stephen Cohen speaking for the integration of Russia in international institutions. Arguing for ostracizing the Russian Federation were Anne Applebaum and former world chess champion Garry Kasparov. Applebaum has been a key proponent, warmonger and lobbyist for the US Proxy War in Ukraine 2022-present. Not sure why the Munk Debates has not published the date of this one.
I WISH WE COULD HAVE MORE INTELLIGENT CONVERSATIONS LIKES THESE.. ❤
"Engagement and Appeasement are not the same thing". So well said.
Isn't this from a very old debate?
Seems so. They are talking about US government changing in 2016 :)
Nederland heeft groot respect voor Vladimir Pozner! Hij heeft de beste hersenen! 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱
After the collapse of the USSR , nations surely have the right , to self determination, stay neutral , join the eu , join nato , or re align themselves with Russia . Neutrality would not guarantee Russia not invading them .
Where is Pozner now?
not in russia anymore. That old propagandist is in the West, of course.
@@arthurtrommel1438 wrong, he's in Moscow
who gives a f about that old propaganda fart@@darvinist87
@@arthurtrommel1438 He's not a propagandist. He is a realist. The West and Russia need a dose of realism. I noticed just recently (the last month of so) that a British Parliamentarian suggested that Russia and Ukraine be offered a pathway to joining NATO in exchange for stopping the war and returning back to the 1991 borders. I believe this is what Trump has on mind if he returns to the Whitehouse in Jan 2025 with his fellow business man, Vivek Ramswamy, as his wingman. However, the Party of Blood and Death is going to fight him every step of the way to maintain the regime of fear and war so they can keep the money flowing into the personal accounts. This antagonism started with the Obama Administration, and has been the sole domain of the Party of Blood and Death ever since. I tried to call it out as it was coalescing, but was shut down by the Main Stream Media. I am in ideological opposition to my own Church as they own some of the mass media outlets that were censoring.
Isn't it better to take a stand against China with Russia in our ranks, than against Russia and China? Of course, with the latter option, there is more blood and death, so anyone with half a brain can see that Trump is the last, best option, to AVOID World War 3.
@@arthurtrommel1438 you FOOL!
I can’t wait for this debate
The debate took place on April 10, 2015 featuring Vladimir Pozner and retired Dr. Stephen Cohen speaking for the integration of Russia in international institutions. Arguing for ostracizing the Russian Federation were Anne Applebaum and former world chess champion Garry Kasparov. Applebaum has been a key proponent, warmonger and lobbyist for the US Proxy War in Ukraine 2022-present.
Not sure why the Munk Debates has not published the date of this one.
Applebaum / Kasparov all jews blaming Russia and want to punish them. Applebaum married to another warmonger Sikorski
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