Took a bunch of classes like linear algebra, discrete mathematics, mathematic analysis etc... problem is when you need it 3 years later you've forgotten it.
On the flip side though: when you do need it, it is immensely easier to re-teach yourself when you have already learned it before. Not quite like riding a bicycle, but once it starts to come back to you it is much less frustrating than trying to teach yourself from scratch just to implement some obscure function buried in your project.
I just forgot everything rn i didn’t go to school for year 8 or 9 i can’t remember but i didn’t go to school half of the year i just forgot how maths works
@@zainabe9503 the best thing isn't to memorize a bunch of formulas. The best thing to remember something, is to understand it conceptually. The brain does away with details, but not with understanding.
My Dad did this once. He was yelling so I came downstairs to make sure no one was spontaneously impaled. Found out my Dad made a spinning cube and pyramid. Found out he spent a large amount of time on it. Then I decided to go for Liberal Arts. (jk i’m in mech e now)
My degree is in mathematics. My career was in software engineering. My concentration was man-machine interface design. The most math I ever used on the job was simple arithmetic. Whether or not you NEED math most definitely depends on WHAT you're programming the computer to do.
and even then it's usually very specific areas of math, and the majority of school math (let alone university level) will be irrelevant. HOWEVER i think that becoming a good programmer is correlated with the ABILITY to comprehend math (even if you've never put this ability to much use). in the sense that your brain should be capable of dealing with abstract concepts, and this is sort of common for both fields. it's like being a surgeon vs. playing a violin. one doesn't really help the other, but having dexterous, well coordinated fingers is probably useful in both of these fields.
What about the mindset? Don't the logic skills, critical thinking, and planning capacity would be the same if you just were self-taught?. I contend that the level of training you achieve in math, physics or engineering is translated into almost anything you do making you hyper competent. Programming specially
Yeah they should legit teach it to hs kids as a fun side project for AP computer science. It could go hand and hand with the calc BC or AB (whichever math they might be taking) + linear algebra. *__* nvrm mostly privileged Silicon Valley kids will be able to do it… and Asian kids prolly. (Since most of America I think learns up to calc and not Lin algebra) It looks like it could fit into as a college side project for graphics class… not sure if it is advanced enough for that… blah blah getting lost of my thoughts.
@Yize Dai I gave up donuts. thought I had totally kicked the desire to ever have a donut again (thanked folks for bringing them in, cause nope, not going there). Then found a shop that was so oldschool, even the smell was heavenly. At that point I realized, I only gave up subpar donuts. So maybe keep an open mind. however I agree, most not worth it, until it is (oh, the fluffy goodness). Still limit intake, because yep, not the heathiest snack, but in moderation even fried lumps of dough can be good fo rthe soul.
Mad respect to the guy who went from the equation of a circle to a donut in 2D on terminal. I mean the math is straightforward, but it's hella creative to put it all together.
Straightforward...!? Are you also an extraterrestrial like this dude...? We, regular people of the Earth have no fckin clue about any of this in the vid! And I was that stupid I started Google Data Analyst certificate course... LOL :D
It's the mathematical intuition that really give you the power. Seeing the patterns of nested loops for example could be difficult for people who have low intuition of deductive logic or set theory. Sounds easy from the beginning but once you are own your own sometimes you get logical errors. Also for other control or complicated structures. It is really the intuition that helps.
physicists seriously ruined the name. It was a torus, and physicists called it a donut. Physicists, man, are a whole new level of bolshevism. P.S.:- This comment is just for fun! Please don't think otherwise.
This perfectly expresses the misunderstanding that consumers of software have now about how much effort it actually takes to do something. huge pain when I try to show my friends something I made that I find cool and they don't understand whats so cool about it.
@@fergal2424 Jesus Christ loved you enough to die a gruesome death on a cross for you ~from an ex drug addict not form someone who spent all his life in church.
As a computer scientist in the private sector I still use math a lot. Granted I don't get to use Abstract Algebra or Trigonometry much anymore, but the things I usually find myself doing is figuring out what growth function best fits data. But a lot of times when I am doing my hobby of game design, I will use all of it. I think anyone can find a use for even Algebra in their day to day life.
@@acreature4 once I had to model data about documents and they needed to be distributed in a way that they are tightly clustered at first and more spread out as the dates go into the past. We ended up using a logarithmic function to model the data.
@@daniellima4391 basic algebra isn’t high level math. It can be used for a lot of everyday things. Like for example, let’s say that you have a purchase in a state with a sales tax of 8.25% that with tax cost 17.68 and you needed to find the cost before tax and you didn’t have the receipt. You can solve it very easily by setting up the basic algebra equation and then move the pieces around to solve for x where x is the original price. Other than that, algebra isn’t so much about numbers as it is about breaking up a big problem into multiple smaller problems and working through each of these step by step. I honestly will never understand how people hate math so much. It’s literally black and white. There is one right answer. Not like literature where there are so many gray areas of interpretation. Math doesn’t lie. It’s just so sad that everyone relies on a computer or calculator to figure everything out for them. It means they can’t be self sufficient without a device to augment them. Granted I guess that has allowed scientists to reach even greater levels of achievement while making the common man progressively more stupid.
@@sly_ly3632 integer with decimal (integer) == integer with decimal (integer) == Means equals to Float (int) means turn integer to integer with decimal....(wait does that even work?)
@@typicalballer5514 Structural engineering is linked with fluid dynamics for many reasons. Fluid dynamics is basically a cornerstone field of study for engineering of many types. Taxes still confuses me!
For those who still doubt math, I think instead of framing it like "why would I want to do that?" a better way of thinking about it is: "If I was asked to do that, would I know how?" Transformation matrices and coordinate math is the real deal.
Ummm... Just a huge doubt, since I like maths wayyyy more than programming... What kind of math is actually required in CS?? From my little knowledge, I learnt that linear regression is major part of AI, but can you provide me a small gist of it?? I am well versed in the basic maths like coordinate, calculus, and also probably optimization.
@@anirbanroy5667 Without maths you can program basic control flow. Granted, you can do a lot with that. But with maths you have the fast Fourier transform, semidefinite programing, locality sensitive hashing, gradient descent, Euler tour trees, min-flow/max-cut, the halting problem, compilers, formal languages, encryption, error correcting codes, ... shall I go on? Maths is the difference between a programmer and a script kiddie.
@@Erotemic damn it, that sounds interesting... What the hell have I been doing with my life?? Just performing basics of python, I was like this shit's boring🤣😭😭
@@Erotemic Any good recommendations of books that is a good introduction to mathematics? Dropped out of college but learning from home, still want to explore different options, especially programming!
I'd say what separates a great programmer from an average one is to always be willing to learn what you need to in order to succeed. Creativity and resourcefulness are the two greatest qualities in programming.
I'd say code simplicity and tidiness are the greatest programmer qualities. How "Creative" does a programmer really need to be? Programmers need to make the thing work in the simplest, tidiest way possible so it is scalable and robust without driving everybody mad and wasting time looking through redundant logic.
@Noa Ella I don't think that many people are all that happy programming within existing frameworks that need to be maintained. Here is the real secret: programming is absolute grunt work. Programming in a blank project something cool like this guys donut can be fun and fulfilling, but at most jobs you are usually just trying to find out why some colossal set of data isn't getting from one place to the other properly.
@Yize Dai I was joking about 98%, but great part of my work is talk to people, discuss solutions, code and do code review. I don't do much math when programming and you probably won't unless you are working with low level, graphics, game stuff or quantitative finance.
Heard that! I once solved a set of 3 equations on the back of a pizza box on the job. Wolfram Alpha wouldnt give me the answers because the numbers were too big and it was inexact or something. Turns out one of the variables was negligible XD. Still took an hour.
#include int main() { printf("A difference between a great programmer and an average programmer is the ability to know what to google exactly "); return 0; }
One point to highlight: once you've created the donut via the circle + matrix axioms -- you can treat it like an object. A donut class. You then apply new rotation or flipping methods on the Donut without worrying about the original circle around a y-axis. Object orientation & abstraction "fun"
@ahmetkaangumus9724 Oh yeah that's a huge problem. Isn't there any way to add an algorithm to THEN treat it like a sort of "pseudo-object"? I've heard of stuff like that being done before, especially since C is a low level language, programming an entire new set of instructions for JUST treating it like an object doesn't feel like a monumental task. Correct me if I'm wrong
@@oceanicmageyou can group functions and variables, that's how classes are treated, but you would basically need to write object oriented extension to c
In my opinion. Basic algebra is really fundamental in programming. But if you want to be a game developer you'll need advanced mathematics and also physics. Update: It's been 3 years now since I commented this. And I did not even know I sparked interesting conversations below. I've been programming since, and I still believe in this. Though many game engines have been developed to cater those who just want to create games even without understanding the mechanics in the lowest level. It's possible, but we should still atleast know why things happen. Because that will help us when debugging.
I more think maths gives your brain a specific manner to aprehend problems. Indeed, sometimes you'll need maths, specifically quaternions for 3D. But in most of engines, the maths were already done. Now when I talk about the way to aprehend problems is the fact you need maths culture and in the cases when and why you have to use the equations. The computer will solve it for you, but as a developper you have to know it exists, why it exists, and what are the variables in that equation
@@powrjinix9796 Blueprint is a good solution, for non programers game makers or to trigger animations. But if you know how to code, you can have more control on what you're doing and you can have a nicely optimized code
you dont really need it. that 1% he speaks about is just an oppurtunity to be creative. afterall in the end all you are concerned about is getting a value, how you get it is up to you. goo dthing in programming is you can cheat as much as you want. with math you cannot cheat.
@@zendraw3468 You also have to consider that with larger programs optimization becomes a thing and if you want to be on the front end of optimization understanding certain data structures at a mathematical level could assist and put you in that better group of programmers. But yea, more often than not you can get thru life as a programmer without complex math knowledge. It's just those that want to do more than get by that might want to put the time in. (not that just getting by is a bad thing.)
watching this felt like.. "what have I done through all those years, none of my coding life have I accomplished something as magnificent as this rotating donut"
it's the combination of 3 tricks, it's not programming stricto sensus as it will never help you for anything related to making money or having fun: - frame buffers, wich make no sense atm even in the video game industry as you will use abstractions for that, yes even if you program a game using C++ or whatever. - geometrical transformations wich makes sense having this idea only if you studied geometry at the university(I studied quite a bit of maths at the university, never came accross those concepts, wich do not look that hard tbh, just having some knowledge in algebra) - having the bright idea of ponderating brightness with characters Modern programming is a vastly different topic. The first guys who came with those kinds of ideas were particulary bright and had very versatile minds tho :).
@@youregonnahaveaskeletontim1925 I know some things about programming and im still impressed. Not everyone is a programming genius, sir. Edit: oops my bad i misread your comment sorry 😅
You do need math, but it depends on what you are doing, most of the time you will be probably doing simple math, unless you are making games logic such as gravity, rendering and etc, then you will need math
I sucked at math, but then I started practicing and now I'm average. As an ICT student now, I think it's more fun than doing math in school, because you get to choose the way you do it. Somehow the freedom of choosing the method has helped my brain a lot. You can do it.
@@ramboog2654 Let me try. You basically make a donut by rotating a circle around the y-axis (There is a special formula for this.). Then you rotate every single point in the x-y direction in corresponding to every other point for the the animation. Lastly, u do some math for the lightning to add to the the realism. Hope u got it.
You learn what you need for the project like any programming task. I would not recommend any developer deep learn/front load math if they are not planning to go into a field that directly utilizes it like 3d engine design or AI. If it comes up you learn the little of what you need, or lets be honest, rip it from stack overflow or some other repo and make slight tweaks to it like most practical programmers do.
I think having an intuition for relative magnitudes and some idea of what mathematical functions map to which real world phenomena is generally helpful regardless of one's profession. Understanding how things with 0.001% chances interact with graphs of 300e6 or 10e9 nodes has been surprisingly relevant.
@@Erotemic Yeah definitely, having a broad understanding of many concepts and functions makes sense to help better find solutions, but I think there is a limit. Its easy to go down rabbit holes or feel like you have to know everything before actually getting your hands dirty. Its much better when you know what problem you need to solve and can focus research related to it.
@@jlammetje Yeah I am not encouraging that. They should mostly know what it does, and most do as rarely can you copy something exactly without changing it at least a little bit. To me, a good programmer knows how to search properly, avoids rabbit holes by exploring all options available, and knows how to properly re-use and modify code pulled online. You cant really learn it in school, it comes with experience.
While he's got a point: every once in a while, programming may test your math skills, don't let your bad math keep you from writing code! Contrary to popular belief, which would have you think software is all about writing complex equations and algorithms, coding is first and foremost a medium for communication. Computers are powerful not just because they're really fast calculators, but because they can understand something core to all human communication: abstraction. Just as you can describe the process of moving your legs in such a way that you are pushed forward as "walking," a computer knows exactly what you mean when you ask it to ".average()" a list of numbers. Bad at math? Your writing skills will make you great at communicating with computers. More of a science person? There's a reason it's called "Computer Science." Maybe you're more of an artist? Code can be just as much an art medium as the pen or brush, be that through web design or ASCII donuts. Whatever it is you're good at, there's a space in computer science for you! None of us are good at everything, yet we still write code! Don't let the math in code scare you, you can learn this!
Thanks for this comment. I am considering Computer Science this year for schooling. However, my math skills are quite atrocious. When you look at programming as a "language" and not some way to flex how great you are at math, it looks much more appealing.
@@abomgaming unfortunately any science related degree will require maths... mathematics is the foundation of all science. So a Bsc, MSc you will study maths for computing (sets, subsets, unions etc). Then if you pursue a graphics related module then yup, the math explained in this video is what you can expect. If I were young again, I wouldn’t bother with a degree... just hone learn how to program and how to handle data. Create a great app then apply for jobs
@@jaykay7932 Yeah I understand. The last time I really did Math was in High School tbh. That was 7 years ago now. I might be a lot more patient when it comes to learning new things rather than going "This did not click in my head in one second, so I give up immediately"
Can we just take a minute to appreciate he had to film all the parts with a mustache first, edit and make sure its good, before shaving and acting the other parts? #respect
Yes, you won’t memorize most of the formulas or math concepts you learnt in schools. But the thing is that we don’t study maths to memorize the formulas, but to learn and train our brains to think logically and analytically. It is about understanding the formulas and methods to solve problems, not learning by heart. If we’re not able to understand basic maths, how are we able to understand codes or advanced programming?
@@JewelxxetPierre not at all. People who create things are extreme exceptions. Basically 1 in the whole population. It is often random, luck and just basically nothing you can just do as well.
Man its almost like quality content is made when you have more time to make it. I remember when this was the norm. But everything has to be ruined and now the algorithm favors absolutely horse sht videos regurgitated daily.
Didn't expect it to be so simple in the end. The basics of the whole program is a torus equation, two rotation matrices and mapping a dot product to a set of characters. Pretty cool what sorts of stupid useless stuff matrices can be used for. No, but unironically it's really cool. If I understand it correctly this would be 100% "modular." Like you could plug in any equation for a 3d object into the program, you could use a different lighting vector, or you could change the angular velocity of the object any way you like and it would still work and give you a different animation.
Funny, I had this first semester in my intro course to programming using the C language(rotation of 3d objects, matrix calculations, linedrawing algorithms, color filling etc).. only 1/3 of the courses workload alongside calculus and discrete math..
programming but 60 years ago what today seems like the simpliest of things was moreso than anything else, a mathmatical feat. Modern programmers are truly standing on the shoulders of giants. for those who persue a computer science degree, a significant portion of what's taught is math, logic theory, and hardware, not just programming.
My math knowledge from engineering was actually useful more than a few times as a web developer, especially working with graphics, canvas or rendering svgs with code. It all depends on the application and knowing math well makes you more desirable as a developer imo.
Any math you will ever need to use in programming is either middle school level or easily googled in 2 seconds. The idea that you have to be good at math almost kept me away from computer science. You really don't have to, you just have to be a quick learner and a fantastic problem solver.
@@miraim4384 wow.. you know, in my country, when we take university that built by goverment, the programming use the test that use math as is subject priority. we must take likes 1 year or 2 years periods/semster to learnt calculus. i take information system in my university.. (not the information enginerring) but that's also computer.., i'm afraid i can't do something likes programing, cause i'm not good at math, + my major is likes data scientis and can be system analist. do you think it's worth it to take system analyst? or be system analyst?
Im amazed that im going for art.( CGI, VFX , 3D art, concept art) And i still find programming an amazing path. To whoever tries to follow this path i have massive respect and blessings, i hope you achieve your objective.
Definitely be useful to know the basis when it'll be time to work with a dev team. Maybe even learn a few things to give a good impression on job interviews ?
@@dalethepalemale6855 It's even harder for people like the comment or because VFX/CGI involve physics (collisions, gravity, lighting, etc...) in addition to geometry. I'd honestly just hate my life so mad respect to the people who actually go down that path ! 👊
I'm currently majoring Bachelor of Science in Computer science digital arts and animation. I'm basically programming and making 3d animation and graphic designs :,)
I've always gone with the mentality that every job that involves thinking requires some Maths. Not all of them require it directly but the general thought processing and problem solving skills developed from Maths should assist you greatly in performing well (in most cases at least).
Every time I write a program, the feeling is remarkably similar to solving the engineering math I got used to as a student or the chess games I played as a kid. No, you don't need high level math to program, but being mathematically minded helps
@@maxclifford937 I'm weaseling through my second major project in grad school computational bio using high school math exclusively and I do have a considerable amount of math buried in the tooI I am building. I almost used a linear algebra to solve a problem, but the transformation bent my cartesian plane in some weird ways. Not sure if I'm using mathematics "properly", whatever that means. If you're talking, say, physics equations, professors are full of information on their derivations, logic, or any other underlying principles. I guess you could say machine learning requires learning some sophisticated, but surprisingly arbitrary, mathematics. I love machine learning, but the funny thing is, linear algebra is the only major university math course I didn't take a class on and matrix algebra makes up the bulk of the conceptually challenging parts of machine learning. But at least I know what a laplace transform is
@@alexplastow9496 Sorry grade school would be above uni I believe (wouldnt know I dropped out of uni :p). I hope it goes well! By probably I mean here (the UK) I was always taught that in secondary school (the equivalent of most of high school in the USA I believe) they just teach you to solve problems. In 6 form (or college here, the equivalentif the last 2 years of high school I think) they teach you everything you knew about maths was wrong and basic (I remember that). Then when you go to uni (again to be confusing college and university are 2 different things here) they teach you everything you did in 6th form/college was wrong and finally try make you think like a mathematician. I'm not trying to sound like everything before doesnt matter but I believe they don't really go into the "why" too much before university (I certainly don't remember it). Also good luck with your project(s)!
@@maxclifford937 damn🤣🤣🤣 whatever u said feels like a parallel from all the atomic models taught... They would teach about one model, then say that it was wrong🤣🤣🤣
Not a computer science student but i like the idea of using mathematics for personal project like these. I feel like all the hardwork it requires, things we learn along the path, and the product we make (dancing donut for example) is immensely gratifying. Even if I chose a non-IT career, I plan to learn to code as a hobby.
@@omeraydindev it's all good bro, that's cuz you first wrote area πr², we thought you were talking about circle and not sphere but most of the people still got you :)
Mike Anderson bro, you wrote pi*r^2 for area.. and if u have any knowledge of your presence you would not have said volume at all.. coz surface area of sphere is 4 pi r ^2.. i think u never studied or gave exams.. there teacher wont give u extra marks for showing off and saying wrong things .. they will deduct the marks..
I am a pretty well rounded developer and "the rule of three" is the most complex math i have ever needed. Yeah if you are doing low level algorithms like for GFX engines you may need math but there are dozens of programming fields where you don't need it. For example programming APIs and web development will likely not require any math.
This video is so cool, I love how easy and simple this explanation was. I don't do any programming but as someone that's had an interest this definitely was a cool watch.
I hated math in elementary and especially highschool. In fact, I failed at it. I only learned algebra during freshman in college. I took b.s. in computer science. Fast forward, I am on my 17th year as software engineer (Java programmer)
@@nikolozisakhelashvili3734 No not really, web developer and just simply programming doesn't require math. That is why there are lots of online tutorials and everyone is able to teach themselves. However, when you want to do more complex things such as "Making a program that will predict what type of movies you like by analyzing previous videos you watched on Netflix." then you will need have a good understanding of math in order to do these kinds of things and your brain gets fried.
@@magamaga-gn4wf I thought so in the beginning but you do unfortunately and im struggling with it. You need to have a good understanding of what model to use to train and there are times where you have to adjust the algorithm for your project. Also good understanding of data, knowing what’s a good data and stuff is basically statistics. So u do need math for these advanced things.
3:10 i don't use these things, i just created a circle in x-y plane while z is 0 and moved it in z axis according to sin and keep change his size according to cos in x and y axis, that's the simple way to do it, but you are doing it with too complexity by creating a circle and moving it in x and y axis according to a formula
Thanks for watching
Hi, I watch your videos since from Mexico
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Dude I saw Joma class website and it looks like need maintenance or something . Also you just look like ramanujan in this video.
So what books would u recommend?
hmm so you are alive....
A difference between a great programmer and a average programmer is the ability to know what to google exactly
Lol 😆
wiser words have never been said
Well said
As someone who had an assignment for C language in uni, this is so so true😂
the Gpt3 prompting just became a sport
I usually do programming under water, so nobody can see me cry
It that why you are dead inside ?
🤣
ha ha
I am much better than you, I am used to crying in front of people
Anis
I do programming under shower 😜
Took a bunch of classes like linear algebra, discrete mathematics, mathematic analysis etc... problem is when you need it 3 years later you've forgotten it.
@@zainabe9503
Yea.
On the flip side though: when you do need it, it is immensely easier to re-teach yourself when you have already learned it before. Not quite like riding a bicycle, but once it starts to come back to you it is much less frustrating than trying to teach yourself from scratch just to implement some obscure function buried in your project.
I just forgot everything rn i didn’t go to school for year 8 or 9 i can’t remember but i didn’t go to school half of the year i just forgot how maths works
if you learned it at that time, it shouldn't be that hard to recall it.
@@zainabe9503 the best thing isn't to memorize a bunch of formulas. The best thing to remember something, is to understand it conceptually. The brain does away with details, but not with understanding.
I’m so thankful for all the geniuses that had to grind in math and machine code to make programming languages like JavaScript and Python
This has to be the most underrated yet most relatable comment here 😂❤
thisssss!
They top genius
both languages are syntactic sugar for c language not assembly language directly
@@ahsanhussain9916 I have no idea what you just said but it sounds correct
My Dad did this once. He was yelling so I came downstairs to make sure no one was spontaneously impaled. Found out my Dad made a spinning cube and pyramid. Found out he spent a large amount of time on it. Then I decided to go for Liberal Arts.
(jk i’m in mech e now)
Is your dad named Joma?
Lol
You'll likely regret the liberal arts decision, I know I do. Good luck, tho :)
@@lbb2rfarangkiinok I know I did. Now I'm in CS and I have no idea what I'm doing.
@StuffyCloud If you're in the US, the economics of pursuing something that won't make you a lot of money doesn't check out
My degree is in mathematics. My career was in software engineering. My concentration was man-machine interface design. The most math I ever used on the job was simple arithmetic. Whether or not you NEED math most definitely depends on WHAT you're programming the computer to do.
100% right
and even then it's usually very specific areas of math, and the majority of school math (let alone university level) will be irrelevant.
HOWEVER i think that becoming a good programmer is correlated with the ABILITY to comprehend math (even if you've never put this ability to much use).
in the sense that your brain should be capable of dealing with abstract concepts, and this is sort of common for both fields.
it's like being a surgeon vs. playing a violin.
one doesn't really help the other, but having dexterous, well coordinated fingers is probably useful in both of these fields.
Okay so which type of programming takes less maths? Like i fuking hate maths 🥺
@@wondersoul9170 yaa dude I love maths if I understand but it’s very hard to understand…My mind just stop’s
What about the mindset? Don't the logic skills, critical thinking, and planning capacity would be the same if you just were self-taught?. I contend that the level of training you achieve in math, physics or engineering is translated into almost anything you do making you hyper competent. Programming specially
honestly making a donut in terminal is pretty dope
Yah this is amazing
No estado terminal, um donut é um buraco com um biscoito na borda 😳😜😂😂
@@FernandoCosta-vf8lq vdd
rotating donut*
Yeah they should legit teach it to hs kids as a fun side project for AP computer science. It could go hand and hand with the calc BC or AB (whichever math they might be taking) + linear algebra. *__* nvrm mostly privileged Silicon Valley kids will be able to do it… and Asian kids prolly. (Since most of America I think learns up to calc and not Lin algebra) It looks like it could fit into as a college side project for graphics class… not sure if it is advanced enough for that… blah blah getting lost of my thoughts.
Me: Trying to learn programming
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"I'mma pretend I didn't see that"
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Same xD
It’s lots easier to learn the required math when you’re in context! In isolation the math is crazy
Same lol
Teacher: Why are you studying so hard on math?
Him: I want to make a spinning donut
It worth it
@Yize Dai ?!?! You don't like don-
_Your rights to all things good have been revoked_
@Yize Dai thats why we eat dough
@Yize Dai I gave up donuts. thought I had totally kicked the desire to ever have a donut again (thanked folks for bringing them in, cause nope, not going there). Then found a shop that was so oldschool, even the smell was heavenly. At that point I realized, I only gave up subpar donuts. So maybe keep an open mind. however I agree, most not worth it, until it is (oh, the fluffy goodness). Still limit intake, because yep, not the heathiest snack, but in moderation even fried lumps of dough can be good fo rthe soul.
@Yize Dai what?? aw man that sucks :(
Mad respect to the guy who went from the equation of a circle to a donut in 2D on terminal. I mean the math is straightforward, but it's hella creative to put it all together.
It's a torus. The torus was created with a full revolution from a circle with a pivot point on the outside.
@@int16_t i know torus, its a good pokemon
Staring from section formula ending at luminance physics and math combined
Straightforward...!? Are you also an extraterrestrial like this dude...? We, regular people of the Earth have no fckin clue about any of this in the vid! And I was that stupid I started Google Data Analyst certificate course... LOL :D
@@colosistvan it actually is, you just need to start from begginings such as ariphmetic, basic geometry
It's the mathematical intuition that really give you the power. Seeing the patterns of nested loops for example could be difficult for people who have low intuition of deductive logic or set theory. Sounds easy from the beginning but once you are own your own sometimes you get logical errors. Also for other control or complicated structures. It is really the intuition that helps.
The real power comes when you can turn those loops into vectorized operations and suddenly your program speeds up by factor 1000x
Huh
So big o performance
Keep it simple and avoid nesting)
*shows the donut*
"It's incredible, isn't it?!"
Me, a beginner developer: FUCK YEAH IT IS
My first thinking when it moves, wtf
I know that the joke is that doesn't seems like the great thing but that donut is not easy to make.
Respect the coding behind.
@@tanmaydeshpande Man, That's simply amazing, I hope I could get to that point someday
it's incredible even for non-beginners developer lol
Me, a professional: IT STILL FUCKING IS
As a physics student with a background in programming, as soon as I saw the donut, I gasped
I know nothing about it but I literally gasped too
Behold the wander! Behold the mighty!
physicists seriously ruined the name. It was a torus, and physicists called it a donut. Physicists, man, are a whole new level of bolshevism.
P.S.:- This comment is just for fun! Please don't think otherwise.
all that for _screen height_
This perfectly expresses the misunderstanding that consumers of software have now about how much effort it actually takes to do something. huge pain when I try to show my friends something I made that I find cool and they don't understand whats so cool about it.
Dude i feel same
Your salary will impress them don’t worry.
Exactly 😭 I built a freaking game and everyone was like..."it's nice but ok"
Find friends that will appreciate it
@@fergal2424 Jesus Christ loved you enough to die a gruesome death on a cross for you ~from an ex drug addict not form someone who spent all his life in church.
As a computer scientist in the private sector I still use math a lot. Granted I don't get to use Abstract Algebra or Trigonometry much anymore, but the things I usually find myself doing is figuring out what growth function best fits data. But a lot of times when I am doing my hobby of game design, I will use all of it. I think anyone can find a use for even Algebra in their day to day life.
Could you give me an example of a day to day use? Just curious!
nah you're just too much into a niche that uses algebra heavily. Normal people won't ever need algebra in their lives
@@acreature4 once I had to model data about documents and they needed to be distributed in a way that they are tightly clustered at first and more spread out as the dates go into the past. We ended up using a logarithmic function to model the data.
@@daniellima4391 basic algebra isn’t high level math. It can be used for a lot of everyday things. Like for example, let’s say that you have a purchase in a state with a sales tax of 8.25% that with tax cost 17.68 and you needed to find the cost before tax and you didn’t have the receipt. You can solve it very easily by setting up the basic algebra equation and then move the pieces around to solve for x where x is the original price.
Other than that, algebra isn’t so much about numbers as it is about breaking up a big problem into multiple smaller problems and working through each of these step by step.
I honestly will never understand how people hate math so much. It’s literally black and white. There is one right answer. Not like literature where there are so many gray areas of interpretation. Math doesn’t lie.
It’s just so sad that everyone relies on a computer or calculator to figure everything out for them. It means they can’t be self sufficient without a device to augment them. Granted I guess that has allowed scientists to reach even greater levels of achievement while making the common man progressively more stupid.
Sir can you please tell about topics which you find are necessary in your job
"Math is what separates a great programmer from an average programmer"
I'm not a programmer and I hate math, so I guess it's a win-win situation?
it's actually a float(int) == float(int) situation
@@solitary2 my 16y/o brain cant understand
@@sly_ly3632
integer with decimal (integer) == integer with decimal (integer)
== Means equals to
Float (int) means turn integer to integer with decimal....(wait does that even work?)
@@electronx5594 oh
Bruh ur here too wtf
the more trending question will be : why you need chemistry for engineering
I think the most trending question is why we need fluid dynamics for doing your taxes.
@@testthisfordecficiencies nah the real question is why I have to take fluid dynamics for civil
@@typicalballer5514 Structural engineering is linked with fluid dynamics for many reasons. Fluid dynamics is basically a cornerstone field of study for engineering of many types. Taxes still confuses me!
The worst subject
Trick question, chemistry is almost non-existent in any forms of engineering
For those who still doubt math, I think instead of framing it like "why would I want to do that?" a better way of thinking about it is: "If I was asked to do that, would I know how?" Transformation matrices and coordinate math is the real deal.
Love this
Ummm... Just a huge doubt, since I like maths wayyyy more than programming... What kind of math is actually required in CS?? From my little knowledge, I learnt that linear regression is major part of AI, but can you provide me a small gist of it?? I am well versed in the basic maths like coordinate, calculus, and also probably optimization.
@@anirbanroy5667 Without maths you can program basic control flow. Granted, you can do a lot with that. But with maths you have the fast Fourier transform, semidefinite programing, locality sensitive hashing, gradient descent, Euler tour trees, min-flow/max-cut, the halting problem, compilers, formal languages, encryption, error correcting codes, ... shall I go on?
Maths is the difference between a programmer and a script kiddie.
@@Erotemic damn it, that sounds interesting... What the hell have I been doing with my life?? Just performing basics of python, I was like this shit's boring🤣😭😭
@@Erotemic Any good recommendations of books that is a good introduction to mathematics? Dropped out of college but learning from home, still want to explore different options, especially programming!
Genuinely admire your content man
Dude how could he not be impressed I mean he rendered a 3D OBJECT just by moving chars on a cmd
a e s t h e t i c
I'd say what separates a great programmer from an average one is to always be willing to learn what you need to in order to succeed. Creativity and resourcefulness are the two greatest qualities in programming.
I guess professionals in most fields are like that
I'd say code simplicity and tidiness are the greatest programmer qualities. How "Creative" does a programmer really need to be? Programmers need to make the thing work in the simplest, tidiest way possible so it is scalable and robust without driving everybody mad and wasting time looking through redundant logic.
@Noa Ella I don't think that many people are all that happy programming within existing frameworks that need to be maintained. Here is the real secret: programming is absolute grunt work. Programming in a blank project something cool like this guys donut can be fun and fulfilling, but at most jobs you are usually just trying to find out why some colossal set of data isn't getting from one place to the other properly.
@Noa Ella Do you program every day?
@Gaudrix What you said is basically applicable for any profession. Not just programmers. PS: I'm a CS graduate as well.
Thankfully I’m still in the 99% of times it isn’t needed.
lol Same goes for me
Same, and 98% of the time I deal with people
@Yize Dai I was joking about 98%, but great part of my work is talk to people, discuss solutions, code and do code review. I don't do much math when programming and you probably won't unless you are working with low level, graphics, game stuff or quantitative finance.
Heard that! I once solved a set of 3 equations on the back of a pizza box on the job. Wolfram Alpha wouldnt give me the answers because the numbers were too big and it was inexact or something. Turns out one of the variables was negligible XD. Still took an hour.
@@skahler jesus. Sounds fun though
This video is the single greatest motivation to study for an exam with the intense gamma ray flow focus such as the introduction.
#include
int main() {
printf("A difference between a great programmer and an average programmer is the ability to know what to google exactly
");
return 0;
}
I’ll be honest, a rotating ASCII donut is as good a reason as any.
Joma is slowly approaching the thin line between "Programmer" and "Hentai Manga artist"
😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bruh how could you 😂
😂😂😂 tf bruh
💀💀
gcc math.c -o math
./math
"Hello World"
^^ what I was expecting
@@NinjaNJH lol me too
that's me .lol
imagine getting a compilation error instead
segfault time
One point to highlight: once you've created the donut via the circle + matrix axioms -- you can treat it like an object. A donut class. You then apply new rotation or flipping methods on the Donut without worrying about the original circle around a y-axis. Object orientation & abstraction "fun"
nerd!!
@ahmetkaangumus9724 Oh yeah that's a huge problem. Isn't there any way to add an algorithm to THEN treat it like a sort of "pseudo-object"? I've heard of stuff like that being done before, especially since C is a low level language, programming an entire new set of instructions for JUST treating it like an object doesn't feel like a monumental task. Correct me if I'm wrong
@@oceanicmageyou can group functions and variables, that's how classes are treated, but you would basically need to write object oriented extension to c
structs would be something similar to objects in oop
In my opinion. Basic algebra is really fundamental in programming. But if you want to be a game developer you'll need advanced mathematics and also physics.
Update: It's been 3 years now since I commented this. And I did not even know I sparked interesting conversations below. I've been programming since, and I still believe in this. Though many game engines have been developed to cater those who just want to create games even without understanding the mechanics in the lowest level. It's possible, but we should still atleast know why things happen. Because that will help us when debugging.
Jesus Christ loved you enough to die a gruesome death on a cross for you ~from an ex drug addict not form someone who spent all his life in church.
FOR THIS THE BLUEPRINT WAS MADE
I more think maths gives your brain a specific manner to aprehend problems. Indeed, sometimes you'll need maths, specifically quaternions for 3D. But in most of engines, the maths were already done. Now when I talk about the way to aprehend problems is the fact you need maths culture and in the cases when and why you have to use the equations. The computer will solve it for you, but as a developper you have to know it exists, why it exists, and what are the variables in that equation
@@powrjinix9796 Blueprint is a good solution, for non programers game makers or to trigger animations. But if you know how to code, you can have more control on what you're doing and you can have a nicely optimized code
my brother worked his entire college to create a simple 3d platformer.. needless to say, I will be going into arts
My God, now you are a fusion between Keanu Reeves and Hideo Kojima
more like Steven Chow
Steve Aoki
Joma six pack confirmed
Bob Marley
Steven chow
if you take the limit of Joma's hair it converges to infinity
and if we take the limit of your hairline its indeterminant cuz u have none (assuming l'hopital never existed ofc), jk i luv u
if you take the limit of Ben's hatred for angular it converges to infinity
Diverges I guess
Math
Interesting that we watch the same videos, let's head to Ben's Chanel now
LIterally just subscribed. This is the greatest thing I have seen in quite some time.
Me In High School: "Math is dumb why do I need this"
Me Programing Now: "Fuck"
You can learn the Math needed for programming as you learn programming.
@@jimjimsandburg2754 Oh yeah for sure, just wished I learned it earlier and payed attention then haha
feeling the same
you dont really need it. that 1% he speaks about is just an oppurtunity to be creative. afterall in the end all you are concerned about is getting a value, how you get it is up to you. goo dthing in programming is you can cheat as much as you want. with math you cannot cheat.
@@zendraw3468 You also have to consider that with larger programs optimization becomes a thing and if you want to be on the front end of optimization understanding certain data structures at a mathematical level could assist and put you in that better group of programmers. But yea, more often than not you can get thru life as a programmer without complex math knowledge. It's just those that want to do more than get by that might want to put the time in. (not that just getting by is a bad thing.)
watching this felt like.. "what have I done through all those years, none of my coding life have I accomplished something as magnificent as this rotating donut"
Now do, “Why you need METH for programming”.
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It's incredible ! Thanks for making this video
Wow that was awesome; see everyone back again in 12 months.
Can you start a separate channel and start teaching math from basic to advanced with your style and flair? Love the videos! Thank you
Use khan academy and brilliant
@@Ou_dembele do u know a good resource for discrete math? for some reason i cant find any good youtube videos on it
Try watching 3Blue1Brown, Professor Leonard, and The Organic Chemistry Tutor.
@@ngndnd for maths, get a textbook first and then watch videos later.
Yo
He finally remembered his password for his RUclips account
Is his acount hacked
Or he forgot password
LoL
Hahahahah
I think he was busy
well you definitely need it for undertanding numbers and quantities in ML/DL. I love using math.
rendering a animating donut on terminal that definitely does not seems easy to me tbh I was very much impressed
ye same but if you don't know anything about programming and all you would definitely see it normal or not impressive
it's the combination of 3 tricks, it's not programming stricto sensus as it will never help you for anything related to making money or having fun:
- frame buffers, wich make no sense atm even in the video game industry as you will use abstractions for that, yes even if you program a game using C++ or whatever.
- geometrical transformations wich makes sense having this idea only if you studied geometry at the university(I studied quite a bit of maths at the university, never came accross those concepts, wich do not look that hard tbh, just having some knowledge in algebra)
- having the bright idea of ponderating brightness with characters
Modern programming is a vastly different topic. The first guys who came with those kinds of ideas were particulary bright and had very versatile minds tho :).
@@youregonnahaveaskeletontim1925 I completely agree that
people with no programming experience can never know
@SHIVAPRASAD B There is nothing to abstract code wise except chars and loops, wich C langage does...
@@youregonnahaveaskeletontim1925 I know some things about programming and im still impressed. Not everyone is a programming genius, sir. Edit: oops my bad i misread your comment sorry 😅
This man just destroyed my hopes and dreams with just a title
I feel you man 🥺😓
You do need math, but it depends on what you are doing, most of the time you will be probably doing simple math, unless you are making games logic such as gravity, rendering and etc, then you will need math
I sucked at math, but then I started practicing and now I'm average. As an ICT student now, I think it's more fun than doing math in school, because you get to choose the way you do it. Somehow the freedom of choosing the method has helped my brain a lot.
You can do it.
@@hanac5586 thanks man
I'm a web developer with 2 years of exp, and I can ensure you, this video is nothing but clickbait. Don't let such nonesense stop you
This was the longest advertisement that I have voluntarily watched.
I skimmed through the video and I'm still not so sure as to what his arguments are to back up his claim
@@frials4757 he would’ve spent a lot of hours creating this pointless exercise, which I bet will crash the browser after running for so long
The fact that I understand the logic behind the programme makes me very glad that I put in the effort to learn linear algebra
Explain the logic, please
@@ramboog2654 Let me try. You basically make a donut by rotating a circle around the y-axis (There is a special formula for this.). Then you rotate every single point in the x-y direction in corresponding to every other point for the the animation. Lastly, u do some math for the lightning to add to the the realism. Hope u got it.
@@navruznazarbekov1246 is 110iq enough to make a donut?
@@testtestsson4927 i dont even know dude🤣
I need your brain please. My match teacher is killing me
The reason Joma hasn't been around for so long; He was trying to make Donut in the terminal
In command prompt
@@theternal in the terminal, he's on Linux.
@@sherlock7127 He isn't using Linux, it's just a MacBook with Bash terminal tho
Sometimes I like to imagine that I can understand what he says
Same here broooooooooo
Same
@@dppjirachi no, sry einstein
@@givenedrikohalim1472 You must be under 18
@@dppjirachi You must be fun at parties
My mans finally came back from the grave
Lmao
Lol😄😄
Too bad shisui didn't 😪
Wasn’t expecting an explanation, but that’s pretty neat. 🙌
You learn what you need for the project like any programming task. I would not recommend any developer deep learn/front load math if they are not planning to go into a field that directly utilizes it like 3d engine design or AI. If it comes up you learn the little of what you need, or lets be honest, rip it from stack overflow or some other repo and make slight tweaks to it like most practical programmers do.
I think having an intuition for relative magnitudes and some idea of what mathematical functions map to which real world phenomena is generally helpful regardless of one's profession. Understanding how things with 0.001% chances interact with graphs of 300e6 or 10e9 nodes has been surprisingly relevant.
@@Erotemic heresy
I hate when my colleagues just "rip from stackoverflow" without understanding what they're doing. It's a recipe for mistakes and bad code.
@@Erotemic Yeah definitely, having a broad understanding of many concepts and functions makes sense to help better find solutions, but I think there is a limit. Its easy to go down rabbit holes or feel like you have to know everything before actually getting your hands dirty.
Its much better when you know what problem you need to solve and can focus research related to it.
@@jlammetje Yeah I am not encouraging that. They should mostly know what it does, and most do as rarely can you copy something exactly without changing it at least a little bit.
To me, a good programmer knows how to search properly, avoids rabbit holes by exploring all options available, and knows how to properly re-use and modify code pulled online. You cant really learn it in school, it comes with experience.
Why does he look like Asian Keanu Reeves.
that moment when you say he looks like an asian keanu reeves when said person is part asian himself
No he look likes stephen chow
WattMonki i already did
Cuz he is
Wait... he isn't?
no wonder you haven't posted in a while! it was for the donut masterpiece!
This still cracks me up after coming back to it after months and currently studying math for programming applications
*Dat Donut was creative as hell* :)) Never expected this! xaxa
wow IZ ah bnshd. taniig shutdiishuu hha
tanii mergejil programmer yumuu esvel computer science yumuu? herev ta harval zaavl hariulj ogoorei bayrllaa.
wow never expected you in here tho
ellhnas?
@@2003suldbold what?
All this video taught me was...there is a whole other level of intelligence, that I haven't reached yet...especially in Math!😳
Yeah - you and me both, we should form a club...
@@Paul-eb2cl I'm in!👋👋👋🤭
@Yize Dai I don't know, what do you think? Whatever we come up with we can have it put on the back of some jackets 😎
hahaha , me too
Acknowledging your ignorance is the first step in the great trip of wisdom and intelligence.
- Anonymous author
While he's got a point: every once in a while, programming may test your math skills, don't let your bad math keep you from writing code!
Contrary to popular belief, which would have you think software is all about writing complex equations and algorithms, coding is first and foremost a medium for communication. Computers are powerful not just because they're really fast calculators, but because they can understand something core to all human communication: abstraction. Just as you can describe the process of moving your legs in such a way that you are pushed forward as "walking," a computer knows exactly what you mean when you ask it to ".average()" a list of numbers.
Bad at math? Your writing skills will make you great at communicating with computers.
More of a science person? There's a reason it's called "Computer Science."
Maybe you're more of an artist? Code can be just as much an art medium as the pen or brush, be that through web design or ASCII donuts.
Whatever it is you're good at, there's a space in computer science for you! None of us are good at everything, yet we still write code! Don't let the math in code scare you, you can learn this!
Thanks for this comment. I am considering Computer Science this year for schooling. However, my math skills are quite atrocious. When you look at programming as a "language" and not some way to flex how great you are at math, it looks much more appealing.
@@abomgaming unfortunately any science related degree will require maths... mathematics is the foundation of all science. So a Bsc, MSc you will study maths for computing (sets, subsets, unions etc). Then if you pursue a graphics related module then yup, the math explained in this video is what you can expect. If I were young again, I wouldn’t bother with a degree... just hone learn how to program and how to handle data. Create a great app then apply for jobs
@@jaykay7932 Yeah I understand. The last time I really did Math was in High School tbh. That was 7 years ago now. I might be a lot more patient when it comes to learning new things rather than going "This did not click in my head in one second, so I give up immediately"
Also, you can re-study for that. No one's gonna shame you for improving yourself
Me too, im also dumb in terms of math but i wont let that it hinder me towards my dream. Im planning to take computer engineering next schoolyeat
such an amazing approach and why math is needed in programming. Thanks!
What’s with that reaction bro. That honestly looks cool. 1:47
I understand the excitement on the programmer’s face.
That’s just... ART!!
You know he knows the math just by his beard
So I need to grow a beard, right?
Or the eyes
Ah yes such great mathematical beards including Joma Tech and the Unabomber
Beard never used to a Korean thing
He pulls the numbers from his beard
This is how I use math:
Import math
use math
bite me.
Can't bite you man, YOU TOXIC.
or use stack overflow
Import then steal code from internet simple
@@ditsokar4168 lol
i created the whole spinning donut program in C++ with this video and alot of help from GPT, thx joma
Can we just take a minute to appreciate he had to film all the parts with a mustache first, edit and make sure its good, before shaving and acting the other parts?
#respect
Can we appreciate the fact that Joma
Made 2 versions of himself with n without mustache
And filmed the whole video to make it look real
*3
Yes, you won’t memorize most of the formulas or math concepts you learnt in schools. But the thing is that we don’t study maths to memorize the formulas, but to learn and train our brains to think logically and analytically. It is about understanding the formulas and methods to solve problems, not learning by heart. If we’re not able to understand basic maths, how are we able to understand codes or advanced programming?
your brain can be trained by trying to understand the concept as you go along. i disagree with needing school
@@MilanoBrandwainumm self study ?? Can also do the same but where will u solve your doubts ?
@oldschoolpk i love cucumber
Enlarging your brain like that makes your d!ck small so you will be bad at sex in bed compare to guys in the street.
ye self studying, i agree @clonespectre8028
theres no way i will ever in my whole whole life time i will be able to do this alone with 0 help
No one did with zero help anyways
People created these programs with no help, if they can do it so can you.
@@JewelxxetPierre not at all. People who create things are extreme exceptions. Basically 1 in the whole population. It is often random, luck and just basically nothing you can just do as well.
This is how those movies begin ,a scientist being ignored
And sometimes an artist
ME: Why am i watching this when i cant even solve my programming problem
Yeah, i feel you.
Same
Same 🤣
Inspiration
Nope, you wil solve by working hard! and that's y ur recommendations made u watch this.
Man uploads ever so often, but when he does they're all bangers
Facts !
Man its almost like quality content is made when you have more time to make it. I remember when this was the norm. But everything has to be ruined and now the algorithm favors absolutely horse sht videos regurgitated daily.
High production quality but what he says has no value lol.
Didn't expect it to be so simple in the end. The basics of the whole program is a torus equation, two rotation matrices and mapping a dot product to a set of characters. Pretty cool what sorts of stupid useless stuff matrices can be used for. No, but unironically it's really cool. If I understand it correctly this would be 100% "modular." Like you could plug in any equation for a 3d object into the program, you could use a different lighting vector, or you could change the angular velocity of the object any way you like and it would still work and give you a different animation.
programmers: exist
donut living in terminal: I'm gonna end this man whole career
3rd year computer science. yet all of this still seems alien to me.
Funny, I had this first semester in my intro course to programming using the C language(rotation of 3d objects, matrix calculations, linedrawing algorithms, color filling etc).. only 1/3 of the courses workload alongside calculus and discrete math..
@@ivanmoen9982 maybe he always skipping the class and doing other stuff instead actually studying.
you dont learn how to code in school lol. gotta teach yourself
I can barely writee mediocre javascript but I feel like I understand basic principals behind this program
@@chees720 javascript...
I was so blown away with the lighting part and idea of dot product just made it so easy.
programming but 60 years ago what today seems like the simpliest of things was moreso than anything else, a mathmatical feat. Modern programmers are truly standing on the shoulders of giants. for those who persue a computer science degree, a significant portion of what's taught is math, logic theory, and hardware, not just programming.
here's a donut
me: but that's a bage-
SHUT UP
@ZER0D4SH I was like hey that's a fvcking bag…. S H U T U P
and i thought im the only one
I read that in the old Smosh videos voice
My math knowledge from engineering was actually useful more than a few times as a web developer, especially working with graphics, canvas or rendering svgs with code. It all depends on the application and knowing math well makes you more desirable as a developer imo.
thank you for this, I just started my journey to becoming a programmer and this is awesome.
Any math you will ever need to use in programming is either middle school level or easily googled in 2 seconds. The idea that you have to be good at math almost kept me away from computer science. You really don't have to, you just have to be a quick learner and a fantastic problem solver.
math has always thought me how to be patient and helped me to become a faster learner
is it ok if i google for programing?
@@reynaldy_al I don't think there is a single person who doesn't google while programming
I almost switched out my major because I'm required to take calculus courses up to calc 3 along with statistics. It's so unnecessary.
@@miraim4384 wow.. you know, in my country, when we take university that built by goverment, the programming use the test that use math as is subject priority. we must take likes 1 year or 2 years periods/semster to learnt calculus. i take information system in my university.. (not the information enginerring) but that's also computer.., i'm afraid i can't do something likes programing, cause i'm not good at math, + my major is likes data scientis and can be system analist. do you think it's worth it to take system analyst? or be system analyst?
“Shut up, I know this is a bagel.”
0:43
Do papers of math formula
Code: int xp=screen width/2
Im amazed that im going for art.( CGI, VFX , 3D art, concept art)
And i still find programming an amazing path. To whoever tries to follow this path i have massive respect and blessings, i hope you achieve your objective.
Definitely be useful to know the basis when it'll be time to work with a dev team. Maybe even learn a few things to give a good impression on job interviews ?
I'm a programmer but I tried learning how to draw for a few years. I have massive respect to artists who can actually draw. That shit hard.
@@dalethepalemale6855 It's even harder for people like the comment or because VFX/CGI involve physics (collisions, gravity, lighting, etc...) in addition to geometry. I'd honestly just hate my life so mad respect to the people who actually go down that path ! 👊
I'm currently majoring Bachelor of Science in Computer science digital arts and animation. I'm basically programming and making 3d animation and graphic designs :,)
@@imnotkimyoohyeon4979 that sounds so awesome, I wish my school provided a program like that, I would major in it in a heartbeat!
I've always gone with the mentality that every job that involves thinking requires some Maths. Not all of them require it directly but the general thought processing and problem solving skills developed from Maths should assist you greatly in performing well (in most cases at least).
yeah, its called logic. logic is the mother of math.
ohno it's Jomaican tech back at it again
Joemama tech
Caribbean
Oh yes
Joemama so tech she Bill's Gates
I'm learning computer graphics right now with opengl and you actually made me undurstand what my professor couldn't, thank you Joma.
wait! but girls dont code
@@jake9854 They don't?
Are you sure, since last time I checked I still was a girl after all.
@Can a swallow swallow? yes just an unfunny one
@@coolcatcastle8it’s funny, you’re just one of those easily offended people
Every time I write a program, the feeling is remarkably similar to solving the engineering math I got used to as a student or the chess games I played as a kid. No, you don't need high level math to program, but being mathematically minded helps
To be fair from what I have heard they don't start teaching you maths properly until you go to Uni/College
@@maxclifford937 I'm weaseling through my second major project in grad school computational bio using high school math exclusively and I do have a considerable amount of math buried in the tooI I am building. I almost used a linear algebra to solve a problem, but the transformation bent my cartesian plane in some weird ways. Not sure if I'm using mathematics "properly", whatever that means. If you're talking, say, physics equations, professors are full of information on their derivations, logic, or any other underlying principles. I guess you could say machine learning requires learning some sophisticated, but surprisingly arbitrary, mathematics. I love machine learning, but the funny thing is, linear algebra is the only major university math course I didn't take a class on and matrix algebra makes up the bulk of the conceptually challenging parts of machine learning. But at least I know what a laplace transform is
@@alexplastow9496 Sorry grade school would be above uni I believe (wouldnt know I dropped out of uni :p). I hope it goes well! By probably I mean here (the UK) I was always taught that in secondary school (the equivalent of most of high school in the USA I believe) they just teach you to solve problems. In 6 form (or college here, the equivalentif the last 2 years of high school I think) they teach you everything you knew about maths was wrong and basic (I remember that). Then when you go to uni (again to be confusing college and university are 2 different things here) they teach you everything you did in 6th form/college was wrong and finally try make you think like a mathematician. I'm not trying to sound like everything before doesnt matter but I believe they don't really go into the "why" too much before university (I certainly don't remember it).
Also good luck with your project(s)!
@@maxclifford937 damn🤣🤣🤣 whatever u said feels like a parallel from all the atomic models taught... They would teach about one model, then say that it was wrong🤣🤣🤣
Some serious comment finally 😃
Not a computer science student but i like the idea of using mathematics for personal project like these. I feel like all the hardwork it requires, things we learn along the path, and the product we make (dancing donut for example) is immensely gratifying. Even if I chose a non-IT career, I plan to learn to code as a hobby.
Nine months ago, I thought this is very hard. After learning shader and technical artists stuffs, I think the math is the easiest part of this video.
those who know linear algebra and calculus know maths is easy for this
I thought u would say.. "After learning... It's even more harder."
Nah, man… this is freshman uni math, lol.
@@tenaciousx00 not freshman but undergrad. Just some relatively straight forward Lin alg
@@varunnayyar3138 it becomes harder when you want to increase it's efficiency and tries to apply measure theory and topology concepts to it.
Brain: Find a formula to render a donut on the console now
Me: Why?
Brain: JUST DO IT
Alternate Title: Reasons to use Stack Overflow
bruh
I bet someone has coded my DNA sequence on Stack Overflow
@@calvinmathew250 same
The background music was surprisingly splendid.It was just perfectly designed
This guy just motivated me to learn more about math subject to be a good programmer
samee
Me too
He’s talking about linear algebra and some vector calculus stuffs. Hope you can find the materials online.
The person who googles "AREA OF CIRCLE" teaches us why we need math....
Me - must give it a view
@@omeraydindev yeah circles do have volume, they arent 2d at all
@@omeraydindev I think he was and so was I but okay.
@@omeraydindev it's called sphere≠circle
@@omeraydindev it's all good bro, that's cuz you first wrote area πr², we thought you were talking about circle and not sphere but most of the people still got you :)
Mike Anderson bro, you wrote pi*r^2 for area.. and if u have any knowledge of your presence you would not have said volume at all.. coz surface area of sphere is 4 pi r ^2.. i think u never studied or gave exams.. there teacher wont give u extra marks for showing off and saying wrong things .. they will deduct the marks..
I am a pretty well rounded developer and "the rule of three" is the most complex math i have ever needed. Yeah if you are doing low level algorithms like for GFX engines you may need math but there are dozens of programming fields where you don't need it. For example programming APIs and web development will likely not require any math.
really cool editting :o
This video is so cool, I love how easy and simple this explanation was. I don't do any programming but as someone that's had an interest this definitely was a cool watch.
"But there's a 1% chance that it might be important" is one of the most programmer things I've heard
Me working on a project: oh I need to use math.
Google search: here you go.
Amazing acting and characterization, almost believed it was 2 people, the voice was the most special.
I hated math in elementary and especially highschool. In fact, I failed at it. I only learned algebra during freshman in college. I took b.s. in computer science. Fast forward, I am on my 17th year as software engineer (Java programmer)
I want to be web developer, can i be web developer whithout math? Im very weak in math.
@@nikolozisakhelashvili3734 As long as you are creative and artistic front end programming is easy for you
@@nikolozisakhelashvili3734 No not really, web developer and just simply programming doesn't require math. That is why there are lots of online tutorials and everyone is able to teach themselves. However, when you want to do more complex things such as "Making a program that will predict what type of movies you like by analyzing previous videos you watched on Netflix." then you will need have a good understanding of math in order to do these kinds of things and your brain gets fried.
@@isseym8592 pretty sure you dont need math for that, you just need a lot of data, logic and knowledge of how to use database
@@magamaga-gn4wf I thought so in the beginning but you do unfortunately and im struggling with it. You need to have a good understanding of what model to use to train and there are times where you have to adjust the algorithm for your project. Also good understanding of data, knowing what’s a good data and stuff is basically statistics. So u do need math for these advanced things.
my dad entered my room while the dude was penetrating that bagel with a pen, his face was the definition of wtf
Poor boy....
@@sky7321 yeah his dad
lmao
it's a donut
@@miikl811 its a bagel
3:10 i don't use these things, i just created a circle in x-y plane while z is 0 and moved it in z axis according to sin and keep change his size according to cos in x and y axis, that's the simple way to do it, but you are doing it with too complexity by creating a circle and moving it in x and y axis according to a formula