I bought these for my 2017 Chevy Silverado 1500. I drive a lot of Ontario and Quebec back roads hauling an 8x16’ car hauler with a Miata Race Car. They’ve never let me down in regard to comfort and traction while hauling.
All those skinny sipes sold me on these tires. They're actually for ice. I never drive through snow in the winter. I'm usually driving on recently plowed roads with 1/2 inch compacted snow that's turned to ice!.
Thank you for this video, made my decision between these and the duratracs. Also, living in Ontario climate made this video even more helpful, keep up the good work and take care!
I have these on my 1st gen sequoia now which came with geolandars. I think these moto masters are the best bang for your buck. I agree with the road noise, it's quiet! But at the same time I do have a muffler delete lol. But it's definitely quieter in cabin than my exhaust manifold leak. Wet traction is phenomenal and winter traction is pretty good. I would definitely purchase another set when the time comes. Haven't really tested off road but does well in mud and gravel, even only in 2WD! Best bang for your buck I think!
Great video! The Eliminators are on my short list for my F150 Screw 4X2 truck. I mostly drive on the 400 series hwys where slush is more of a concern. Based on my experience, a true winter tire is superior for the first couple of years and then drop off. I'm willing to sacrifice some traction in the short term in exchange for more overall long term performance. Thank you!
I find the same thing. After a season or two they're nothing better than an all terrain tire winter rated. Glad someone else sees this. Also those winter tires don't last long at all.
I have bought a set of these for my 2009 3500 Express Single rear wheel cube van. Your review helped decide. I will try to comment once I have experience with them. I am getting the exact same tires. I'm really hoping they will be quiet and work in the snow. I will not likely take the van off road. But if I do anything stupid, hopefully they will keep me out of serious trouble.
I miss my Cooper Discoverer M+S studded winters. They discontinued the and the replacement gets horrible reviews. I had to settle with a set of Nokian Hakka 10 SUV studded this year and i was so disapointed with their performance after years of using my Cooper Discoverers. Those old Coopers were amazing, i very rarely needed to lock my 4Runner into 4wd and the level on confidence they gave when driving through the nastiest of weather was very high. The studs on the new Nokians are hardly even noticeable other than the noise. They've given me more rear wheel spin when driving through very tame snowy dirt road conditions then I've ever experienced in my years of driving a 4Runner. I'm eyeing these Motomaster Eliminators for my 3 season tires this year. It's hard to decide at times, the Nokians are ranked one of the best winter tires and I found them rather crap. I guess if you have never experienced ultimate traction like the old Coopers gave you just don't know, kinda like people who've never owned a Toyota and don't understand the hype.
I got these tires installed on my 2010 Tacoma with original 17" rims in March of 2022 (I still had the original tires). Compared to the original tires from Toyota, they are "slightly" noisier but it's negligible because, like you said in the video, the originals are crapy especially in Winter. On a previous '89 GMC S10, I installed BF All Terrain tires and those were noticeably noisier than the originals. I only have 78,000kms on my Tacoma so these new tires will last until I decide to get a new vehicle so longevity wasn't a big factor. Overall I would certainly recommend them for the price and overall quality. (keep in mind though that the "design" is from Cooper but the rubber is Canadian Tire, there is a difference. My uncle worked at a tire plant and saw the difference in rubber between Motomaster and BF but that was 2 decades ago)
I just picked up a set of these (LT265/70/17) E rated. Did you have the same size? What PSI did you run these at? The shop who installed mine set them at 32psi.
@@michaeldyer5548 Mine are 265/65/17 and I inflate them close to the recommended 29psi. I say close because right now it's getting colder outside so I tend to go a few pounds higher because the psi will go down as we get into Winter where I've seen -38C/-36F
@@yvongauthier4409Thanks for your feedback, I’m in Thunder Bay Ontario, where we see some very cold weather as well… although maybe not as cold as you’ve described. I think I will leave them at 32PSI for the winter then. Are/were yours the same E-rated LT designated 265/70/17 tire? Did you play with the inflation at all to try to get better mileage?
@@michaeldyer5548 I'm in Sturgeon Falls, an hour East of Sudbury. You must get the -38c if not lower? It doesn't last long, like a few days. The average though will range from -10 to -20. I put a front hitch on my Tacoma and in the Winter I plow with a "SNOWSPORT" snowplow. It's a basic no frills plow that I can take completely off in 2 minutes. There are no LT or P letters before the 265 so i imagine they're LT and after these numbers 265/65/17 it says 112T standard load. I haven't played with the tire pressure for mileage as I really don't do a lot of km. I bought my Tacoma new in 2010 and I only have 82,000 km on it!
Great video. Do you think that these tires are good for regular spring / summer / fall driving? I see Canadian Tire rates it as a winter tire and I read elsewhere you are not supposed to drive winter tires during the summer. Thanks!
I think it's safe to consider this an "all-season" tire that happens to perform really well in the winter. So far they've been great in the warm weather. A winter tire would wear out quickly in these conditions so the fact that they're rated for high mileage should offer some peace of mind
Great videos and great channel:) I was chuckling when you were going over the problems with your Tacoma as I’ve had so many of the same issues on my 2012. I think I’d like to give the x-trails a try, but will have to wait for them to go on sale as right now they are $320 a tire which seems crazy. I heard Canadian tire usually puts tires on special in April - do you know anything about that? Keep up the great content thx:)
I'm really considering these for my F150 as I do lots of towing with a travel trailer and inline snowmobile trailer.Did you have much experience with them in heavy rain conditions?
Been thinking about these tires for my 22 F150, just wondering your opinion after having these for a while? Would you by them again or go for something different? Regards Mark
I was actually just thinking yesterday that if I have to pay for the next set of tires for the 4runner out of pocket, I'll probably get these in a bigger size
@@CanadianGearhead Thank you. It is between them and the KO’2 (probably not a good quality comparison) but the KO’2s are so costly now I really wonder if it is worth spending almost an extra 1000 bucks.
@@CanadianGearhead just wanted to say thank you for the video, reviews and comments. I just bought a set of LT’s for my F150, based on your channel and reviews. At the end of the day it is hard to beat the price when they are on sale.
How are these on winter icey road conditions? I’m more so looking for a nice aggressive look for my truck but something that can be used all year round that’s reliable.
How about cooper At3 4s, I know the eliminators are coopers but curious if you could review it critique then compared been looking at the At3s before the ems but looking at them both now would appreciate it. Good video
Tires designated as a WINTER TIRE have been made with a softer material however, with the new computer generated tread designs they are supposedly able to withstand warmer temperatures and still deliver great winter weather capability. But, I am still skeptical at this point and have decided to wait and see what happens with the guinea pigs that just have to have the so-called latest and greatest of whatever comes out.
I just bought this tire cause i saw this video and i like how the tire wall looks aggressive but when i got mine it wasn't the same as in this video it was like a click bait
I just picked up a set of these (LT265/70/17) E rated. Did you have the same size? What PSI did you run these at? Did you play around with PSI for better mileage? The shop who installed mine set them at 32psi.
Had mine on since late march maybe april'23. But recently they became noisy. Duratrac level, but a lighter pitch (if it makes sense) anybody has that? Low km on them 1100-1200km..
@@CanadianGearhead I've got these tires on my 2016 silverado (first set of all terrains) and I can confirm they are really quiet and smooth on the road!
@@CanadianGearhead just in a soft barnyard they packed full of mud immediately and didn't clear. We're slick. My big k02 on my other truck did just fine in the same area.
Nice. I got a set of these after my k02s wore out. I think these are better in the snow and rain than the k02s.
I bought these for my 2017 Chevy Silverado 1500. I drive a lot of Ontario and Quebec back roads hauling an 8x16’ car hauler with a Miata Race Car. They’ve never let me down in regard to comfort and traction while hauling.
All those skinny sipes sold me on these tires. They're actually for ice. I never drive through snow in the winter. I'm usually driving on recently plowed roads with 1/2 inch compacted snow that's turned to ice!.
They do the job!
Thank you for this video, made my decision between these and the duratracs. Also, living in Ontario climate made this video even more helpful, keep up the good work and take care!
Thanks for watching!
That’s what Iam wondering the motormaster xtrail or dura trax tires ?
I have these on my 1st gen sequoia now which came with geolandars. I think these moto masters are the best bang for your buck. I agree with the road noise, it's quiet! But at the same time I do have a muffler delete lol. But it's definitely quieter in cabin than my exhaust manifold leak. Wet traction is phenomenal and winter traction is pretty good. I would definitely purchase another set when the time comes. Haven't really tested off road but does well in mud and gravel, even only in 2WD! Best bang for your buck I think!
Great video! The Eliminators are on my short list for my F150 Screw 4X2 truck. I mostly drive on the 400 series hwys where slush is more of a concern. Based on my experience, a true winter tire is superior for the first couple of years and then drop off. I'm willing to sacrifice some traction in the short term in exchange for more overall long term performance. Thank you!
Sounds like these might be a good fit!
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I find the same thing. After a season or two they're nothing better than an all terrain tire winter rated. Glad someone else sees this. Also those winter tires don't last long at all.
I just purchased those tires for the very reason you stated.
I have bought a set of these for my 2009 3500 Express Single rear wheel cube van. Your review helped decide. I will try to comment once I have experience with them.
I am getting the exact same tires. I'm really hoping they will be quiet and work in the snow. I will not likely take the van off road. But if I do anything stupid, hopefully they will keep me out of serious trouble.
When in doubt, throttle out! Appreciate the review.
Made in USA too, just bought it for my 2023 Toyota 4 Runner.
I miss my Cooper Discoverer M+S studded winters. They discontinued the and the replacement gets horrible reviews. I had to settle with a set of Nokian Hakka 10 SUV studded this year and i was so disapointed with their performance after years of using my Cooper Discoverers. Those old Coopers were amazing, i very rarely needed to lock my 4Runner into 4wd and the level on confidence they gave when driving through the nastiest of weather was very high. The studs on the new Nokians are hardly even noticeable other than the noise. They've given me more rear wheel spin when driving through very tame snowy dirt road conditions then I've ever experienced in my years of driving a 4Runner. I'm eyeing these Motomaster Eliminators for my 3 season tires this year. It's hard to decide at times, the Nokians are ranked one of the best winter tires and I found them rather crap. I guess if you have never experienced ultimate traction like the old Coopers gave you just don't know, kinda like people who've never owned a Toyota and don't understand the hype.
Love your videos man, Keep up the good work!
Thanks for watching!
I got these tires installed on my 2010 Tacoma with original 17" rims in March of 2022 (I still had the original tires). Compared to the original tires from Toyota, they are "slightly" noisier but it's negligible because, like you said in the video, the originals are crapy especially in Winter. On a previous '89 GMC S10, I installed BF All Terrain tires and those were noticeably noisier than the originals. I only have 78,000kms on my Tacoma so these new tires will last until I decide to get a new vehicle so longevity wasn't a big factor.
Overall I would certainly recommend them for the price and overall quality. (keep in mind though that the "design" is from Cooper but the rubber is Canadian Tire, there is a difference. My uncle worked at a tire plant and saw the difference in rubber between Motomaster and BF but that was 2 decades ago)
I just picked up a set of these (LT265/70/17) E rated. Did you have the same size? What PSI did you run these at? The shop who installed mine set them at 32psi.
@@michaeldyer5548 Mine are 265/65/17 and I inflate them close to the recommended 29psi. I say close because right now it's getting colder outside so I tend to go a few pounds higher because the psi will go down as we get into Winter where I've seen -38C/-36F
@@yvongauthier4409Thanks for your feedback, I’m in Thunder Bay Ontario, where we see some very cold weather as well… although maybe not as cold as you’ve described. I think I will leave them at 32PSI for the winter then. Are/were yours the same E-rated LT designated 265/70/17 tire? Did you play with the inflation at all to try to get better mileage?
@@michaeldyer5548 I'm in Sturgeon Falls, an hour East of Sudbury. You must get the -38c if not lower? It doesn't last long, like a few days. The average though will range from -10 to -20. I put a front hitch on my Tacoma and in the Winter I plow with a "SNOWSPORT" snowplow. It's a basic no frills plow that I can take completely off in 2 minutes.
There are no LT or P letters before the 265 so i imagine they're LT and after these numbers 265/65/17 it says 112T standard load.
I haven't played with the tire pressure for mileage as I really don't do a lot of km. I bought my Tacoma new in 2010 and I only have 82,000 km on it!
I love the Duratrac and glad you're comparing it to those. How are they a year later?
They're still like brand new and totally silent!
@@CanadianGearhead that's kind of amazing really
Love Duratrac but the hum is what's stopping me. Was considering the falken but might try these
Great video. Do you think that these tires are good for regular spring / summer / fall driving? I see Canadian Tire rates it as a winter tire and I read elsewhere you are not supposed to drive winter tires during the summer. Thanks!
I think it's safe to consider this an "all-season" tire that happens to perform really well in the winter. So far they've been great in the warm weather. A winter tire would wear out quickly in these conditions so the fact that they're rated for high mileage should offer some peace of mind
P & LT models of these tires feature different tread depths and sidewall appearances, LT is nicer looking.
Thanks for review.
Great videos and great channel:) I was chuckling when you were going over the problems with your Tacoma as I’ve had so many of the same issues on my 2012. I think I’d like to give the x-trails a try, but will have to wait for them to go on sale as right now they are $320 a tire which seems crazy. I heard Canadian tire usually puts tires on special in April - do you know anything about that? Keep up the great content thx:)
I'm not sure of their schedule for sales but have definitely seen them discounted a few times
I just paid $248.24 cdn at Canadian Tire. It's Sept 2023.
I'm at CT to buy these for my 1 ton. CT says these are winter tires!!! Are they only for winter?
O.E. mud flaps help keep the vehicle clean and reduce paint and windshield damage for following vehicles.
Yeah they would with a setup like this. They were useless with wider and lower offset wheels on the 4runner though
It’s alright for me if the tires make a lot of noise cause I’m always blasting music on the jbl speakers anyway
Would you recommend this on a 4cylinder?
I'm really considering these for my F150 as I do lots of towing with a travel trailer and inline snowmobile trailer.Did you have much experience with them in heavy rain conditions?
So far they've been great in the rain!
@@CanadianGearhead that is great to hear!!!! Thank you .Looks like a great all around tire that wont break the bank
So now it been few months, do you still like those tire and are they become noisy on highway.
Yes I still have them and they haven't gotten any louder yet. Really pleased with them
@@CanadianGearhead Cool that’s a good new. I’ll make them install tomorrow they are in sale at 148$ each. Hope it’s s a good deal.
Been thinking about these tires for my 22 F150, just wondering your opinion after having these for a while?
Would you by them again or go for something different?
Regards
Mark
I was actually just thinking yesterday that if I have to pay for the next set of tires for the 4runner out of pocket, I'll probably get these in a bigger size
@@CanadianGearhead Thank you. It is between them and the KO’2 (probably not a good quality comparison) but the KO’2s are so costly now I really wonder if it is worth spending almost an extra 1000 bucks.
@@CanadianGearhead just wanted to say thank you for the video, reviews and comments. I just bought a set of LT’s for my F150, based on your channel and reviews. At the end of the day it is hard to beat the price when they are on sale.
Are these called something else in the US, perhaps with the Cooper name? I can't find anyone that imports them let alone sells them.
How are these on winter icey road conditions? I’m more so looking for a nice aggressive look for my truck but something that can be used all year round that’s reliable.
They're not as good as a dedicated winter tire in icy conditions but they're great for an aggressive looking off-road tire
Why would you put e rated tires on a mid size truck?? I have the 1/2 ton version on my frontier.
How about cooper At3 4s, I know the eliminators are coopers but curious if you could review it critique then compared been looking at the At3s before the ems but looking at them both now would appreciate it. Good video
If I ever get my hands on a set I'll make a vid!
Tires designated as a WINTER TIRE have been made with a softer material however, with the new computer generated tread designs they are supposedly able to withstand warmer temperatures and still deliver great winter weather capability. But, I am still skeptical at this point and have decided to wait and see what happens with the guinea pigs that just have to have the so-called latest and greatest of whatever comes out.
I just bought this tire cause i saw this video and i like how the tire wall looks aggressive but when i got mine it wasn't the same as in this video it was like a click bait
You probably got P rated tires not the LT
I just picked up a set of these (LT265/70/17) E rated. Did you have the same size? What PSI did you run these at? Did you play around with PSI for better mileage? The shop who installed mine set them at 32psi.
Just ordered these on sale for 2 hundred and some each
Me aswell. 265/75/16 for 234 a piece!
Yeah the Goodyear is rated E (10 ply). This is rated SL. What ever that means... But the Canadian tire site says 5 ply.
SL means standard load
You can get these in both LT and XL( extra load) versions.Great tire
@@jasonbrushett2005 Thanks for the info!
Are you using the LT tire?
Yep
According to the website this is a 5 ply tire ? You say 10 ply ?
There is a P version and an LT version of the same tire, this one is the LT
@@CanadianGearhead Okay thanks for the info!
@@CanadianGearheadThey're both 5 ply.
Had mine on since late march maybe april'23. But recently they became noisy. Duratrac level, but a lighter pitch (if it makes sense) anybody has that? Low km on them 1100-1200km..
Mine are still quiet! You sure it's not a wheel bearing or something?
@@CanadianGearhead i didnt think about that. Or maybe my brain didnt want to think about it loll. Thx!!
You just go earblind to tire hum. I heard mine for all of 3 days now I dont hear mine at all and its been4yrs later
That's definitely what happened with the 4runner
@@CanadianGearhead I've got these tires on my 2016 silverado (first set of all terrains) and I can confirm they are really quiet and smooth on the road!
These are great tires on road and in the snow but not very good offroad.
What kind of off-roading did you do with them? What was your biggest complaint?
@@CanadianGearhead just in a soft barnyard they packed full of mud immediately and didn't clear. We're slick. My big k02 on my other truck did just fine in the same area.
@@TitanTown Interesting, good to know 👍
How did this impact your fuel economy?
I'm sure it dropped a bit but not as bad as the 4runner's tires
Right now it’s winter and I’m using 1.5 litres per 100 km more on these tires after 1000 k .I expect that to get better in the spring.