How to Choose Tires for AWD Subaru: What tires are best?
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In this video we dive deep into the process of selecting the correct style tire for your all wheel drive Subaru or similar vehicles in order to have the best performance and longevity in the conditions you will be driving in. Thanks for watching!
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This is the man I inspire to be. Enjoying the best of life. I am currently 17, living in Australia with a 2015 subaru forester. Starting to do some mods to it but not working out to well. I got a job recently and have been saving up for a while and plan on spending big bucks to be able to get out and enjoy nature. You inspire me man. Keep doing what you do!!!!
Just get out there man. You don’t need to spend a ton of money to enjoy it. My foz is still bone stock 👍
I have a set of Wild Peaks on my 2015 outback, and they've been AWESOME!
Last winter had a couple bad winter storms, and I had ZERO issues getting out.
In fact, I helped many get to work, and also helped deliver medicine to people snowed in.
This man is going places
Literally
Usually forward, sometimes backward.
Finally! Someone who doesn’t claim one single tire is the best for all 👍🏻. Depends what you plan to do and what condition to use them. Cheers.
I have Falken Wildpeak AT3W's on my Outback. Awesome in rain, mud, and snow with a minimal MPG hit. Also pretty quiet too.
The noise, or lack thereof, was a pleasant surprise, when I got a set put on my 2015 Outback.
What kind of MPG hit did you notice? Like 1-2 miles per gallon or more than that
@@miarelis9310 To be honest, I haven't noticed any difference.
That's what I wanted to know if was there a lot of highway road noise with the Faulken Wildpeak.
I’m getting a 2005 Outback XT with Falken Wildpeak AT at3w on 17” Method rims. Can’t wait to take it off road.
This is the best explanation of this subject I've found yet and I'm extremely pissed that I didn't stumble upon it until after 5 hours of browsing forums...
Falken Wildpeak AT Trail are great for CUV's. Great in winter (no tire is good as a dedicated winter tire, but, very good), and no compromises. Great in dry and wet too! Long tread life. Just put them on my wife's Eclipse Cross.
This has been one of the most complete videos I have ever found on the internet, when serching information about something so specific. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful! You're very welcome
I have a '21 Forester, base model. I watched a lot of RUclips including this one before choosing my rim/tire size and brands (yea, they're rims!). I ended up with Motegi MR 116 rims with 235/70 R16 Toyo Open Country A/T 3 for the weight savings. The base model has smaller calipers, so I was able to go to a 16" rim and it made a huge difference! I'm on a 2"Iron Man strut lift so I have good clearance even with the 2" extra diameter overall (29.5") Thanks for this video, it helped me decide and that combo is working out just fine!
This might not be a popular choice but I got the Michelin cross-climate 2’s and I love the look of them, they also handle great on and off road. Totally satisfied with the choice
Really interesting choice! Have you had any issues with tire damage from gravel/rocks?
@@tufcat722 none so far
I also installed cc2’s on 2020 outback. Outstanding handling and ride.
I’ve got them on my Volvo V90cc and they work really well. They are the SUV version so should be fine for light off-roading
The look?
Informative, have a 2020 forester sport live in BC Canada and have been using the falken wildpeak trail since the car was new, 1 yr and 25,000 km, been really impressed on all types of road and forestry road conditions. Been thinking of taking a bit of air out of the tires when on forestry roads, will have to give it a try.
I grabbed the same ones for mine. You’ll love them.
Have always put BFG AT/KOs on all my Toyota's, but when I got my Outback I didn't want that extra weight and side wall bulk so I tried the Cooper Discoverer and I love them! They feel made for Subarus and are very comparable to the BFGs in gravel/dirt/sand ability IMO. But they absolutely eat snowy roads for lunch. And much quieter than the BFGs. Long term I expect them to wear out faster than the BFGs, and possibly be more prone to trail damage, but we'll see. Great video!
Great video, you really give good, well-researched information. Smaller tires actually cut through the snow, sometimes big fat tires float on the snow. Also, reducing air is great, but you need to warn people not to break the bead. And the most important thing in winter (even more important than 4wd) is good snow tires (like his wife's car, although I'm not sure most people require studs)- I can always tell the cars that have 4wd in the winter that have no snow tires, they have cool cars that slide all over.
Yes surface tension is a big key factor
Thank you for this breakdown!! Easy to understand and now I feel like I'm not at a complete loss when it comes to tires.
You’re very welcome!
This video explains why my Crosstrek (with the Geolander tires) ran like a champ during the snow we had in Texas this year.
Which Geolanders did you get? I have a Crosstrek too and in the coming months I’m going to need to change my tires, and I want to change wheels to 17” Sparco Terra wheels and pair them with the Geolander CV G058.
Finally some honest content.
Some great points , few years back I went from MT to AT and gained 5mpg far quieter smoother and never really found that I had less traction when the trail go tricky
My vs at tires?
Very informative! Thank you!
I grew up in Rajasthan, India..it’s a desert state..so, barely any rains..currently living in British Columbia.. driving in snow, ice & rain is pretty new to me...just this week bought my first new car & it’s a green Outback Limited XT..obviously, Google knew about this & suggested your channel 😊
Glad to hear that! Thanks for the comment. Have fun out there👍
The new BFGooodrich Trail Terrains look really good! They are like a slightly less aggressive KO2 optimized for mileage, snow traction and durability
I hear they still don't perform that well on road though.
Never thought about airing down my 2015 Forester until this video. Just like to do backroad/dirtroad drives. But I did get a full size tire and got rid of the doughnut. Got a Viair air compressor and a plug kit, too, just in case. Thanks for the idea!
Thanks for the input Doof, I have a 2012 Subaru, I’ve never liked doughnut spars, curious where you put your full size spare ?
@@thesalsalthe I removed the doughnut and put in the same spot. Had to get a longer bolt to secure it. The foam pieces didn't fit anymore, but not a problem, just packed everything in and around the tire and wheel.
@@doofhund3526 Thanks, I’m surprised it fits, that’s good news, I’ve never even opened mine to look at it.
I've mounted the less known tyre NOKIAN ROTIIVA A/T, it's a tyre developed and produced in Finland. They are very good off-road and amazing in the snow. Best Regards from Belgium, David
Yeap, I rock WildPeak AT3 on my Jeep Cherokee. Love them alot. 5% snow, 10% off-road and 85% on-road. Going on 1 year in January.
Great video. I'm plannng on making a tire and wheel purchase for my Subaru in the next 30 to 60 days and this was very helpful in my decision making.
Good to hear!
I have a 2014 Subaru Forester and my summer tires are on their last legs so I've been looking at replacements. I've been researching for weeks and came to either putting the geolanders on my stock 17" rims or buying new 15" rims wrapped in the k02's. I wish I would have found this video a week ago and saved my self some time, but I'm glad my research lines up with your recommendations. I live in British Columbia, Canada, so the snow performance is irrelevant because I have a set of dedicated winters on a second set of rims. I do very little driving in the summer because of my work, but on the weekends I love to go camping. My biggest fear is being a couple hours down a forest service road and having a blowout and being stuck with only the donut to get me out. I'm leaning towards the k02's just for that extra protection and because I do so little driving in the summer (maybe 1500 miles) that the on road performance isn't really an issue, plus they look sick haha. Still trying to decide tho... anyways, great content. I've been enjoying watching your videos.
I have been thinking of taking off my Geolanders and replace them with these tires are very good quality with low road noise Maxxis Razr AT-811
I have Continental AT Terrain Contact tires on my Subie Forester. Love them and haven’t let me down yet. Maybe a bit overkill, but I like having the peace of mind. 🤗
They are no overkill, Best Regards, David
2017 Outback on Falken Wildpeak AT3W. Absolutely great tires.
what is the size ? are they still a good option after three years ?
We sold the car but had them for 2.5 years & they were great. I dont remember size but the biggest you can fit stock. And we had the 4cyl. @@sniperqdive
@@sniperqdive I also had the exact tire on my Tacoma & they were great
My outbacks in Alaska needed the studded tires for the amount of ice in the street all summer long but in Colorado it melts during the day and you’re driving around on slush. So you need studless.
this is probably the best tires video ive seen, doing my research and this helped so much. also subbed to Nathan as well. great job!
Great to hear, glad it was helpful!
I have Wildpeak AT Trails on my 2012 outback 3.6r. I love them so far and they were great in the Wyoming winter. Gas mileage hasn’t been terribly affected either. A little less than a 2 MPG difference between them and street tires.
Good to know!
Take a look at the Michelin Climate 2 very good to excellent performer and is rated as a snow tire. This tire you don't have to remove every season because it design to run quiet and has the snow peak symbol. It will last a long time too.
I would say the Michelin's are more street tires than good for softroading. Either way, they are amazing tires.
Another great post 👍 I have Wildpeak A/T3W 235/65R17 on custom wheels (KMC Alpine 17x8). Smoother than I expected on asphalt and very solid in all backcountry conditions I have hit so far. Since I max out on roof cargo weight most time (or slightly over😀) and I have a 60 lbs ebike on the hitch rack I value 10 mm additional tire width. Also started airing down more frequently on rough gravel roads.
Thanks! Very nice, sounds like you have your settup figured out
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What vehicle? The 235/65R17 is an SL rated tire, those are the ones I am looking at but I am worried about the durability.
Thank you Chase! Nice info. I have on 4 new TOYO AT country 3 on my 2016 outback and I am loving it. I was surprised it wasn't mentioned on this forum. I have driven almost 90,000 miles on my all season sets of tires (I am having my daughter to put on the same all season tires for her Outback) before I went with Toyo. I do drive on washboard roads a lot for fly fishing adventures and some rocky areas with some snow in winter. Keep up the good work!
Right on! thanks for the comment🙏
Just got the Toyo’s. They don’t seem to be compared much anywhere. 🤷🏻♂️ I am happy with them so far ( 1500 miles) , had them in some mud and wet rock climbing and didn’t have any traction issues. On road daily driving’s phenomenal
@@Jaegov I now have 65,000 miles on my Toyo open country 3 and still have another 10,000 + miles left on them. Great tires!
I did so much research before buying my tires with all the brands that they mentioned in this video. The end result was Wild Peaks because of the extra 5000 MI warranty. So total of 55,000 MI took them up the first weekend I had of them and wound up pulling three other Subarus out of the snow. I bought these tires because we had a ice storm coming and they did phenomenal in the ice
My Crosstrek came with Geolandar G91s. Not bad traction-wise, but noisy as a coin laundry.
The most ambtious off-road I do is a gravel driveway, so when they wear out I'm looking toward Michelin CrossClimate 2. I've head they might have more rolling resistance, but I've been driving Michelins for more than fifty years and they wear like iron and have the traction of an abalone at low tide. And quiet..
Your photography is on point. Good job!
Thanks so much!
Excellent video. I learned a lot. Loved the Q+A section at the end too.
Another thing to point out with Subarus and their AWD systems - it's important to rotate your tires regularly to keep similar tread depth at all 4 corners (and maybe have a full sized spare you rotate in to the mix at each switch too). Sucks having one tire have a fatal puncture and needing to replace all 4 - ask me how I know :)
Great idea, thanks for sharing!
With every truck I had when it comes to tire rotation, rotate all the tires to maintain balanced tread depth on all of them.
Some tire shops can grind down the thread to match them all.
Just in case of replacement or spare ;)
But it's not so common, so it can be expensive :(
Probably a stupid question, but why can't you just replace the one tire? I'm new to awd
Man, this video was very educational! Crosstrek owner here. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I'll have to consider other options, like the wild peaks. But after being a delivery driver so long in Lake Tahoe, California (Sierra Cement snow), I may refuse anything but BFG AT TA2. As another user suggested, some new 15 inch rims sound optimal with these meats.
Downsizing my rims has been on my mind for a long time, that would be a good call.
Thank you for this very informative video...applies to ALL folks looking for mixed use tires. MUST SEE!!!
You’re welcome!
Great info. Thanks so much. The Falken's sound like the way to go.
Get tyres for your local conditions. For example, here in Sweden it is pretty much standard for all cars to have two sets of rims, one set with summer tyres and one set with winter tyres. There are legal requirements about having winter tyres (though not necessarily studded ones) during certain months of the year. I have studded tyres (Nokian Hakkapeliitta) on my Subaru Outback, and run those from mid/late-November to early April. So 5-ish months of the year.
All season tyres is basically not a thing around here. The manufacturers tried to introduce them a decade or ago, but they got universally bad scores in tests and were involved in many accidents. They really don't work for our conditions.
I PERSONALLY use Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 235/60/R18. They fit the stock outback 18 inch wheels with no rubbing and have the snow flake rating.
Gday, could you fit one in the spare bay?
I have a 2019 Forester and replaced 225/60r17 OEMs withPirelli Scorpion AT Plus 225/65r17. Big improvement over the OEM in all aspects on road and obviously on trails. Also have 1.5 inch lift plus 1/2 inch extra from tires to have effective 2 inch lift. The Scorpions are virtually a twin of the Falken Wildpeak Trails.
Very good information! During the winter storm here in Texas my jeep has MT patagonia and slid off the road almost causing a very bad accident. I'll most definitely go with falkens for my 2005 outback next. Believe or not I got a subaru because you've inspired me to get one haha! The best vehicle to go camping. Great video man 👍🏼
I have the Yokahama Geolanders on my Crosstrek, which have performed beautifully during the two "Snowmageddon" storms we have had the past couple of years in North Texas.
@Ms_Tex how do they perform the rest of the year? City streets, etc? Do you still have them? I'm looking for new tires for my 2018 3.6. I put about 65 miles on my car a day.
This is some good info. I have Wildpeak Trail tires on my Outback and also had them previously on my RAV4 and love them. I got a 5th wheel so I can have a full size spare along with a compressor, patch kit, bottle jack, shovel, and recovery boards.
Does the spare fit in the well for the spare? Or do you carry it elsewhere?
@@surfmanx796 Full size spare fits in my 2012 Outback 2.5i Premium spare tire well in the back storage area (I took out the piece of foam). To get it to fit I lower PSI on it very low. My air pump, tool bad, tire patch kit, and jump starter all fit back there too.
@@CicadaAppreciationSociety Thanks for the response.
Are the wilkpeaks noisy at all?
@@necessaryJustice_4all A little but less than most AT tires.
Love the channel Chase. Thanks for the recommendation of the Falkan Wildpeaks. Just put them on and took my 2017 Outback 3.6 to Mammoth with some heavy snowfall. The tires performed better than expected in some solid snow conditions and ice. They stuck to the road so well and breaking was very good too. Tires also felt very good on dry and wet paved highway.
Are they loud on the highway ?
Quiet on the highway and great in poor weather. The Falken… Stock size. Mileage seems a bit less though.
I’m not a fan of Subaru’s but you made a great choice in tires
Thank you for the great information.
Learned a lot about tires.
Awesome video👍
Absolutely, glad you enjoyed!
BFG FTW. SoCal has tons of deserts and and Rocky locations. Tires are solid.
My Subaru Ascent is on its second winter with the Wildpeak AT/Trails. They do great in the snow. Combined fuel economy has been impacted by less than 1mpg. Great video
Good to know!
Awesome run through! Thanks so much for making this.
Great video chase!
I buy Yokohama Geolandar G015 all terrain tires for my Subaru Executive Outback. Need that for the dirttracks around my place in Hungary.
Right on! I’ve heard good things about those👍
Type of tires all depends on what you're doing with your Subaru. 95% of us use our Subaru for daily driving and want something good in snow/ice and good gas mileage. I LOVE the Michelin CROSSCLIMATE2. They have become VERY popular. I have them on my 2020 Forester and I get an average (mostly hwy) of 35 mph. They are an "all season" that is snow rated, performs as good or better than any snow tire out there, is amazing in water and will probably outlast your car. For the other 5% of you trail blazers out there, an A/T tire is best and I like the FALKEN WILDPEAK A/T TRAIL tire. I have them on my older Subaru (2008 Forester w/3" lift) and I love them above all the others I've tried.
Also the heavier the tyre the more strain you put on your CV joints.
I just set the Trail Terrain BF Goodrich on my Subaru Forester 2019 and feels awesome, in Road and Off-Road trails 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
How are those working for you, thinking about them for my daughters Crosstrek.
Tire plug kits are great for people who are strong enough to use them. I'm 60yrs old, weigh 160lbs and a building maintenance mechanic and don't think I have the strength to ram a plug into an all terrain tire. I've been successful on street tires with softer compounds.
I put the Toyo Celcious CUV tires on my
21 Forester and they have been great on ice, snow, slush and dry roads , they are on 18” wheels
I am one minute in and I am going to tell you what I have on MY Subaru Forester = Yokohama Geo-Landar X-A/T
THESE have be working good! I drive a lot on the road but they work Great in the sand and dirt too.
20:08 YOKO for the WIN
This was so helpful! Thanks for the great video. I’m getting BFG KO2’s for my crosstrek soon. Will be doing a lot of off roading for work. So excited!
Glad it was helpful! Have fun with the new shoes👍
After wildpeaks, i’ll get AT terrain contacts next time.
First of all, love your videos! I too have a very similar rig 2021. I doo lots of offroad and hunting in places i probably should not venture off too! Still I am careful and understand that if you want one vehicle that is the most rugged the Outback mperhaps is not the best choice. However for all around utility, daily driver, off road and pushing the bounderies it simply is best for me. When I watch your videos I see the samp philosophy of use and your values reflect mine. I do however tow a 16 foot boat with mine and it does it very well with the 2.4 Turbo. I see all the other vehicles try to do what the Outback does but In my opinion none compare.
I too have had Jeeps, and Trucks but still the Outback is my best choice. Thanks for the great information and keep the videos coming!
I have p225/60r17 Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady tires on my 2015 Forester Limited 2.5 Cvt. Tires are excellent in Snow, Ice and Rain. I lower the tire pressure to 20-16 for driving on the beach.
Thank You, really helpful. I am in Melbourne Australia, my standard road tyres have only got about 3-6months in them at my current rate of driving and I was considering A/T tyres. I don't go out much into dirt, but Often take my boat to ramps up and down as well as if go driving inland to fishing destination do venture out off road, but nothing extreme. now it's the choice b/w All Season and A/T.
I’ve used all terrain and mud terrain in the snow here in Washington and to me the main difference seems to be on braking.
I live in Alaska and run Bridgestone Blizzak on my Subaru legacy and I love then
Thank you from a 50 year old women. I appreciate the honesty
You're very welcome, glad it was helpful!
Wonderful video! I'm gonna be buying a Subaru Crosstrek and I'll be driving up the Rocky Mountains 5 days a week. I'll be buying the Wildpeaks, Thank you!
🥸 The lumpy tread Lookig line around the edge of the sidewalls and close to the tread is to supply some strength against the rocks and sharps when you deflate. It’s designed for when you do so you don’t harm the part of the sidewall that becomes the bottom when deflated.
Good information Guy’s be safe!
Just a Forester Freak 🤓 and a good 🐕 dog God Bless you from Tulalip Washington State!
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I put Continental tires all weather all season tires.
Thank you for this video. Excellent insights!
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Informative. Thank you... I am in the category '90% hwy 10% sand n dirt' and use the OEM standard tires, with inflator and patch kit on board.
i have Michelin Cross Climate 2's on my 09 Impreza, i live in New Hampshire. I work for a landscaping company and shovel snow in the winter, and i can tell you these tires are like glue on snow and ice, i also do a lot of dirt road driving, and some class 6 roads as well. it is lifted. for $575. you cant go wrong, they do make a little noise going down the road though, iv seen people look up at the sound of them.
Chase - would appreciate your feedback on the Wildpeak after having them for awhile. I have a 2022 Outback with 40k so near time for a replacement. I’m between the wildpeaks and the Yokohama GO15. Heard Nate say in your video both are great choices but would value your feedback. Leaning a little toward the GO15 for a slightly more mannered choice. Great videos
I have an ‘05 Forester with cheap tires. Suits me just fine
Nice video, other guy super knowledgeable too!
i have 2019 subaru outback and i have 255 60x 18 and its looks like skinny
my question is: can i use 255 70 x 18 in my subaru out back 2019?
great shots!
I'm thinking about the Falken wild peaks too. They're pretty cheap for their rating. I'd love to see how they do throughout the miles
I’m in a job requiring me to sometimes navigate pretty rough stretches of soft roads and trails in my 2018 Crosstrek. Bought a set of Falken Wildpeaks, and I’m happy with their performance on and off roads, mpg, and little noise.
Been rocking wildpeak at trails for 30/40k, they’re incredible in dirt and snow and no noise on highway. Will forever be buying these
@@jpshipwash6240 did you have a noticeable hit to your mpg?
@@Jor0716 nope.
Donuts are extremely dangerous I had to use one on my MB, next month I will be trading it in for the Wilderness Outback. I asked the General Manger if it has a regular spare tire he showed me the spare tire and it is regular full size spare tire. I told him done deal.
California here 14 forester xt falken wild peak stock size never goes in the dirt but got them fir the look
Thanks for the information.
Your videos offer to everyone a practical description of everyday use not just for tires but for surviving in challenging situations. I for one own two Outbacks. One a 2018 2.5 Premium trim, the other a 2019 3.6 Limited. Can't beat cylinders vs Turbos. I get why manufacturers do the compact tire thing. But it is wrong. A compact spare does no one any good when you are on a road trip through the desert. They should be illegal. All cars/suv's should come with a full size matching spare. Offset tires could be the exception. Even Subaru finally realizes that their cars are taken off road. So the Onyx XT comes with a full size spare. About time. Hopefully someday this will all change. What do you guys think?
Good video bro !
Thank you!
Thank you. Very informative
Great stuff. Love your 3rd person shouting angle. How did you do that while driving? You can do a video about it.
Thank you very much from Germany
I do 0 off roading in my legacy or my outback but when we get up to 8in of snow my yokohama avid ascent gt tires do the job very well
Hey, Mr Chase! Been watching your clips, and subbed. Your films were influential in my decision to buy an excellent condition '18 Outback. I've ordered a popular 2" lift strut kit, and can't wait to install it, along with off-road tires and less backspaced wheels. Just wondering if you've considered equipping your Outback with an improved, higher clearance suspension, or why you would not?
Hey Joe, thanks for the comment! Hope you enjoy the new setup! I have considered it but have not yet gotten around to it. I enjoy the efficiency of the stock setup and don’t really want to give that up. I also have the 4cyl and It’s not very quick with factory size tires and suspension, so I suspect that would get even worse with a bigger size. Who knows, maybe eventually I will make a change.
Best of luck!
Just found this channel and I love the content! I was wondering: What year is your Subaru?
Awesome video
both vehicles are beasts. i like them both . toyota being slightly more reliable. whatever though. both are great
Cool RUclips dude, as I am about to change the stock tyres on my brand new Forester e-Boxer. Stock are Bridgestone Dueler H/P Sport, which are actually not that bad, but where we live, they will fail badly come winter. So I am leaning towards the newest Bridgestone AT tyres: Dueler AT/002. They have very good reviews and fuel and rain ratings (C). Also they are all season and have the 3 peak stamp. Anyone considered these? (Probably not, as these tyres only came out late 2023).
I’m currently trying to decide which trim of outback I want to go for coming from my 15 crosstrek. Will likely be for 80% commuting to work, but car camping and getting to trailheads on the weekends (maybe a few road trips sprinkled in too). The new wilderness edition looked great till the mpg hit. Thinking maybe the Onyx XT or one of the 2.5L trims and just throwing some ATs on it. Only thing that’s pushing me to the XT is the added towing incase I decided to get a teardrop down the road.
That XTs extra towing would be handy if you have any trailer plans. It also has the heavier transmission so the same Overall power train as the much bigger Ascent. I just bought the non turbo Outback limited and it’s a great car. We have no towing plans so I opted for higher trim goodies rather than turbo fun. It is adequate but not a fast car so if that’s at all a thing for you, get the turbo.
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What size did you get? Are you on 18” wheels?
225/65 r18 Yes, i'm still using the 18" wheels that came with the car. I'd like to drop down to 17" but haven't wanted to spend the money yet.
Cool. Just subscribed to tire dudes channel too 👍👍
Thanks 👍
very informative. thanks