Great video these are beautiful watches. Interesting how these brands have beautiful affordable pieces but the sports model prices are to the moon but also these are very much lifestyle watches
Hi Bill, thanks for making these videos. If I had to pick one or two, it would be VC first, AP second. Having said that, in my opinion, Endeavour center second will top all of them on any day, cheers!
Marc, you're really getting good at understanding horological value. The Endeavour Center Second tops them both, and given the same choice, I'd do the same thing. (In fact I did!) Take care, Bill
Hi Reza, they're all over the place. Here's one I really like under $4k: www.thewatchbox.com/shop/4231122.html?cur=USD&keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAjw1v_0BRAkEiwALFkj5gW_njzpRS5DlTtn1l4F9zEmhTjHg8z1CriVCSxv2892NFRU8CxQOxoClEYQAvD_BwE Take care, Bill
Hello Mr. Bill how are you today, I just received this video, I second your choice that you would like to go for VC. It is a great watch white gold and Round circle date, big size and with leather strap on it and of course great value for money. Cheers
The VC is a beautiful watch and the only one of the ones you mentioned that has the Geneva Seal (not sure about the AP)...however it's a tough choice when the two Rolexes are cheaper and gold vs. the steel VC. But about $ 15k for a watch finished to Geneva Seal standards is an incredible value.
Hi Jonnie-B! Here's a pre-owned Q d'I for asking $9,700 ... would the take an offer of $8k? www.chrono24.com/vacheronconstantin/quai-de-lile--id14689124.htm Cheers, Bill
Hey Bill. You know, I agree w you sometimes you have these wonderful watches that are totally over looked. Bit if I had my choice in buying a sleeper gold watch at any discount, i think any one of those VCs you kept mentioning might be the better quality or value don't you think ? Now maybe a bit pricier. But I just think when it comes to a sleeper in precious metals...Vacheron would have to be at the top of the list.
For me, there's enough gold in my Historiques American 1921 to check the gold box, but the one I like most now is this baby: www.vacheron-constantin.com/en2/watches/historiques/historiques-triple-calendrier-1942-3110v-000a-b425.html ... in stainless steel. If you want a gold watch from VC, head for the pre-owned section of Chrono24 and find one to adore! Or even check out Jomashop. Cheers, Bill
For sheer uniqueness, i'll take the quai de l'ile. The Rolex Cellini is almost perfect, but make it a bit thinner (no need for open caseback) and put it in steel, then let's talk. That Jules Audemars, I still find it pretty, same as I did several months ago.
@@watchartsci Why not? Although I've got other watches on my mind before this one, I'm always open to exploring "distractions". Gotta try it on to get a feel for the fit, though. Cheers.
In line with your a.m. marketing conversation, here Rolex has the greatest base of upscale watch owners in the world but it has not seemed to have been able to penetrate the dress watch market. I don’t know what the Cellini production and sales numbers are but they cannot be too prolific. That said, the watches are well designed and the quality is certainly there. While the Prince is in a niche were some of the references can command $10,000, other references like the Danaos are available at $4,000 and represent real value in comparison with say an Omega DeVille. Without worrying about investment value, the Cellinis are a heck of a buy. I don’t have the Cellini movements in my mental calculator but if they are chosen from within the galaxy of Rolex movements or close relatives thereto sharing parts (as I would guess) this would be a plus. The ease of servicing a Rolex movement, the relative cost of such service, the wide range of those capable of providing such service and the ability of Rolex movements to go on for years beyond the normal service intervals without problems all make a Rolex dress watch very attractive in comparison to a Holy Trinity dress watch. Cheers.
Hi Howard, check this Danaos out-I think it would work with a man or woman. www.thewatchbox.com/shop/4231122.html?cur=USD&keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAjw1v_0BRAkEiwALFkj5gW_njzpRS5DlTtn1l4F9zEmhTjHg8z1CriVCSxv2892NFRU8CxQOxoClEYQAvD_BwE For some reason, I see it as a great Office Watch for a woman. It's a no-nonsense watch with a touch of class. Could easily pass as a dress as well. For a man, a watch that size I think would be a terrific dress watch but only in black. As for the Prince, that's special. Take care, Bill
I'd take the Quai de I'lle over any other watches in this video. However, the modern Cellini is pretty tempting but I don't understand the Cellini's movement though.
@@leyay7540 They could just finish it to a good standard. Also, we never even have seen this movement. It may look standard, but I just want to see it anyways.
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Great video these are beautiful watches. Interesting how these brands have beautiful affordable pieces but the sports model prices are to the moon but also these are very much lifestyle watches
A lot of marketing and buying choices often make little sense, Badboy... Take care, Bill
Hey, Bill. Keep these shorter videos coming! Love it.
Hey Empty, thanks man! They're a quick coffee break. Cheers, Bill
Hi Bill, thanks for making these videos. If I had to pick one or two, it would be VC first, AP second. Having said that, in my opinion, Endeavour center second will top all of them on any day, cheers!
Marc, you're really getting good at understanding horological value. The Endeavour Center Second tops them both, and given the same choice, I'd do the same thing. (In fact I did!) Take care, Bill
Hi Bill, where did you find the Cellini Denano if I ma ask please?
Hi Reza, they're all over the place. Here's one I really like under $4k: www.thewatchbox.com/shop/4231122.html?cur=USD&keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAjw1v_0BRAkEiwALFkj5gW_njzpRS5DlTtn1l4F9zEmhTjHg8z1CriVCSxv2892NFRU8CxQOxoClEYQAvD_BwE Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci Thank you very much Bill,
hopefully , i can find an Automatic one
Thanks Bill. These are four excellent choices. Definitely overlooked and under appreciated.
Hi praise coming from a guy who knows his Rolexes! Take care Bruce ... and check out a nice VC! Cheers, Bill
Hello Mr. Bill how are you today, I just received this video, I second your choice that you would like to go for VC. It is a great watch white gold and Round circle date, big size and with leather strap on it and of course great value for money. Cheers
Thanks Zahid! I've had my eye on that Quai d'Ille for quite a while. You'd look good in one too! Cheers, Bill
The VC is a beautiful watch and the only one of the ones you mentioned that has the Geneva Seal (not sure about the AP)...however it's a tough choice when the two Rolexes are cheaper and gold vs. the steel VC. But about $ 15k for a watch finished to Geneva Seal standards is an incredible value.
Hi Jonnie-B! Here's a pre-owned Q d'I for asking $9,700 ... would the take an offer of $8k? www.chrono24.com/vacheronconstantin/quai-de-lile--id14689124.htm Cheers, Bill
@@watchartsci UAE seller...not surprising with oil selling for $ -40.00 per barrel!
Hey Bill. You know, I agree w you sometimes you have these wonderful watches that are totally over looked. Bit if I had my choice in buying a sleeper gold watch at any discount, i think any one of those VCs you kept mentioning might be the better quality or value don't you think ? Now maybe a bit pricier. But I just think when it comes to a sleeper in precious metals...Vacheron would have to be at the top of the list.
For me, there's enough gold in my Historiques American 1921 to check the gold box, but the one I like most now is this baby: www.vacheron-constantin.com/en2/watches/historiques/historiques-triple-calendrier-1942-3110v-000a-b425.html ... in stainless steel. If you want a gold watch from VC, head for the pre-owned section of Chrono24 and find one to adore! Or even check out Jomashop. Cheers, Bill
A similar looking dial on the Historiques would be fabulous choice for our pet project.
@@trujr5295 Mention that at the live stream coming up. Thanks Bill
Bill as always, pleasure to see your videos, cheers!
Cuestion, as always it's my pleasure! Take care, Bill
For sheer uniqueness, i'll take the quai de l'ile. The Rolex Cellini is almost perfect, but make it a bit thinner (no need for open caseback) and put it in steel, then let's talk.
That Jules Audemars, I still find it pretty, same as I did several months ago.
Thinking of getting a Quai d'Ille if one comes your way at the right price, Gilberto? Take care, Bill
@@watchartsci Why not? Although I've got other watches on my mind before this one, I'm always open to exploring "distractions". Gotta try it on to get a feel for the fit, though.
Cheers.
In line with your a.m. marketing conversation, here Rolex has the greatest base of upscale watch owners in the world but it has not seemed to have been able to penetrate the dress watch market. I don’t know what the Cellini production and sales numbers are but they cannot be too prolific. That said, the watches are well designed and the quality is certainly there. While the Prince is in a niche were some of the references can command $10,000, other references like the Danaos are available at $4,000 and represent real value in comparison with say an Omega DeVille. Without worrying about investment value, the Cellinis are a heck of a buy. I don’t have the Cellini movements in my mental calculator but if they are chosen from within the galaxy of Rolex movements or close relatives thereto sharing parts (as I would guess) this would be a plus. The ease of servicing a Rolex movement, the relative cost of such service, the wide range of those capable of providing such service and the ability of Rolex movements to go on for years beyond the normal service intervals without problems all make a Rolex dress watch very attractive in comparison to a Holy Trinity dress watch. Cheers.
Hi Howard, check this Danaos out-I think it would work with a man or woman. www.thewatchbox.com/shop/4231122.html?cur=USD&keyword=&gclid=CjwKCAjw1v_0BRAkEiwALFkj5gW_njzpRS5DlTtn1l4F9zEmhTjHg8z1CriVCSxv2892NFRU8CxQOxoClEYQAvD_BwE For some reason, I see it as a great Office Watch for a woman. It's a no-nonsense watch with a touch of class. Could easily pass as a dress as well. For a man, a watch that size I think would be a terrific dress watch but only in black. As for the Prince, that's special. Take care, Bill
Thanks for the great content Bill, be safe.
Thanks, you too, LK! Take care, Bill
BTW - Yes. The Quai de I'lle. Outstanding esthetically. I think. Wouldn't take it in white gold any day.
Tru Jr, I prefer a Quai de I'lle in stainless steel, like the one shown. Tried one on and liked it better than the Overseas. Cheers, Bill
I'd take the Quai de I'lle over any other watches in this video. However, the modern Cellini is pretty tempting but I don't understand the Cellini's movement though.
The current Cellini just uses cal.31XX which is a workhorse but rather boring as a dress watch.
How about as an Office Watch?🤔
@@watchartsci Then it's too expensive (gold case is unnecessary).
Hey Tippy, I'm with you about the Quai de I'lle - of all of them, it's the one I like best. Cheers, Bill
@@leyay7540 They could just finish it to a good standard. Also, we never even have seen this movement. It may look standard, but I just want to see it anyways.